@Never once done sports betting. I just think it’s immoral to promote something so addictive and life damaging to an audience that likely contains young individuals. I don’t know why you felt the need to comment something so aggressive but there’s the reply you wanted.
*We appreciate it. Gambling is foul and just not smart willingly playing a rigged game. The morality of it is wack on both sides and frick you if you defend it. There's no defense.
At some point you have to operate your NBA franchise like an NBA franchise and stop living in the past solely because you think its a cute idea for your franchise’s best ever to spend the rest of his days there on several mediocre at best teams
Yeah, but I mean with Lifers you play a different set of rules. They’ll eventually be bad enough to get another good pick, they just REALLY dropped the ball on LaMelo. Their franchise would be in a completely different place if they took him.
Fans will never be happy. If a player wants to leave, they’re disloyal. If that same player wants to stay on a bad team, he’s stat chasing and empty calories. If the franchise trades a star, they get accused of tanking. If they keep the star, they’re wasting the star’s best years. I say, at some point, they need to stop listening to fans and analysts (and players, in many cases) and run their business.
Welp he goes down as the greatest warriors player of all time. If he wants to stay and retire he’s more welcome to stay and retire. If he wants a move it’s fine. If he wants one last minute push. Warriors are patient for the right move. Not many players out there that moves the needle. 🪡 Jokic and Giannis aren’t available. Shows you how hard the market is.
Honestly, the Warriors had 2 years to finally trade Kuminga and strike the iron why it was hot to get value out of a player that clearly does not work for the team, they massively overvalued him and failed to get a deal done. Now it is kind of too late as Kumingas value is getting lower because of his unrealistic contract expectations, he wants a max extention, but is very far away from being that kind of player.
I think you don’t get the big picture. Kuminga is 22. He will great in 2-4 seasons from now. Also his market has gone up. Guys like Franz Wagner drove his value high once he got the 200 million extension. You would be prob those guys that want Kuminga out just for him to prove you wrong on another team 2-4 seasons from now.
@ Comparing Kuminga to Wagner is quite frankly ridiculous. Kuminga has not shown anything close to Wagners level of play, we have seen Kuminga play for 4 seasons now and it is basically still the same as his first year, sure great athleticism and impressive moments, but overall he still looks like a headless chicken on the court if he does not have the ball and i am doubtful that will ever change, not sure where you take the confidence from that he will suddenly be a great player in 2-4 years. I honestly think that Franz Wagner was a better player in his first NBA game than Kuminga is now and that is not really close. Kuminga can not shoot, can not really defend and has one of the worst BBIQs of all players in the League, watching him play drives me absolutely insane, he does something absolutely ridiculous almost every min he is on the court. Kuminga is the kind of player that looks amazing in any highlight video because of his athleticism, but as soon as you watch an actual game you are absolutely not surprised that neither the coaches nor teammates trust him on the court at all. I also disagree that his value increased, i actually think it decreased a lot the last season simply because of his expectation to give him a max extention and his deal looming. He will most likely get overpaid by a bad team that has not really a choice to take a gamble that they will deeply regret.
@@javierlandaverde4108 Franz is already a top 40 player and averaging 10 more points and 4 more assists per game on higher efficiency. Comparing Kuminga to him is silly, we've seen Franz do it. Kuminga is nowhere CLOSE to a max player.
Honestly the issue is that Kerr is not coaching this team well. He's trying to run an offense that depends on prime Steph and Klay, and not one that takes advantage of what he has on the roster right now. There is also the eternal Warriors issue of not having a rim protecting big. But Jimmy Butler doesn't help with that. Jimmy would be a terrible mistake. Trading Steph would be a good move if you can get something huge, but you'd also probably need something more than just picks. If Kerr took more advantage of his current roster, I do think you'd see a return to the early season Warriors that's more sustainable though.
Meh... Most of people said Kerr is a genious just 2 months ago after GSW's hot start. He's always been a genious when the team is winning and a dunce when the team is struggling. He is what he is, but most of the noise is just noise.
@@konzza the people saying that were just looking at the record at not the mirage that it was. Kuminga is a great example of Kerr failing the roster. He wants Kuminga to be Andrew Wiggins. However, Kuminga is much better going downhill as a ballhandler. Watching the Warriors you could see that they were actually starting to do that before he got injured. It'll be interesting to see if they'll go back to it.
The ugly truth is, they aren't a good team and no trade is going to fix that. Steph is so phenomenal they remain relevant, but they simply are not competitive.
All I can say is, as a Spurs fan, I was very glad that Timmy and Manu never suited up for anyone else. This is all ownership's and management's fault. Lacob acted like he and Kerr had solved the NBA, they just got lucky that they hit on three or four drafts in a row. Also, at the beginning, Steph had an ankle injury and they were able to sign him to a below market value contract.
@@harveydent8714 losing every night and seeing steph upset and angry is taking years off his life. all that stress and load trying to carry the warriors. he either needs to chill out and coast his legacy or he needs to find a move away from the warriors where he can be more of a supporting piece.
Not every star needs to be in a rush to leave. I don’t believe in blind loyalty to the franchise, but being on one team with all that success is a serious feather in his cap in the modern NBA.
There might not be any next deal for Steph. He extended his contract by one year last summer and will earn 62m in 2028. The only way Warriors can get him any high note is if they magically build a contending team with draft picks until then to complement with the young guys they are having right now. This would prob need Kuminga or Podz to break the hell out and thats unrealistic.
the team can't put that on Steph. if they're going to trade him, the team needs to be out front of it instead of making it seems like he's asking to be traded. even if Steph does ask to be traded, the team shouldn't put that on him imo. he's done way too much for that franchise for they to put that on him
Imma be real. I'm a big warriors fan but even bigger fan of curry as my favorite player ever. But it's either you rebuild and trade Steph or make one more big retool. Steph is a winner and want to stay and win. But I think we all want him to at the very least play out the rest of his career to make the most of it. I WANT STEPH TO STILL PLAY AND BE ENJOYING IT. Bro looks exhausted and he's been playing through injuires because he has to for this team. They are way to overreliant on Steph and Kerr needs to listen to Stackhouse and stotts because his way of coaching isn't cutting it at all.
I agree with you 100% - the correct basketball decision is to part ways with Steph and Draymond while they still have value. Just like with Lillard in Portland. The "Two Timelines" experiment imploded with the Wiseman pick.
Imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
@@OntarioAndrews415 are fans having a good time right now? This is what it will look like the next two years unless Podz turns into Steve Nash when he returns.
Team imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
I dont think theres a trade that fixes this team because of steve kerrs refusal to stick with a lineup to get some consistency. Thats been a huge part of the problem. The gm could have made this easy by committing to a path youth vs veteran. They paid moody to play less somehow. Just terrible management.
Life just comes around. He was extremely fortunate to have landed in GS, and had some of most well rounded rosters ever built around him. Now as he goes into the last bit of his career , he’s feeling what LeBron got early in his career. Respect to Steph but this will be it until he retires
Steph is not just a NBA player but an international phenomenon that are strictly tied to Warriors. That’s too much of loss for business standpoint. Also, only couple of rebuilding teams are now contenders and it took them more than 5 years until they get there.
People hate when loyal players are traded, people hate when the franchise is loyal to the player whos done so much for them. Theres no winning with yall
No, DIFFERENT people hate those things and like the other, and also its situational. “Theres no winning with yall so fuck it” is not a franchise management strategy
What's even worse is they aren't even aware that they do it and are like that. They just regurgitate common consensus and follow what everyone else says like Sheep
I honestly do not think Jimmy Butler raises the needle for the Warriors at this point in his career. They are going to have to look at Portland, Washington, Utah, Brooklyn, Toronto and Philadelphia to be trade partners with. I just don't see a path with Butler going to Golden State and them being a better team. I think Butler will be too much of distraction for them because of his wanting a max extension. They would do much better if they tried to get something like Jeremi Grant and Robert Williams from Portland. I don't know if that is possible or not, but I feel like they would improve the team more woth them because Grant is a good shooter and Williams is a damn good interior defender and rim protector. I don't know if there would be interest between the two teams or not. If they can wdork the financial side out or not. I just think Grant and Williams move the needle more. Plus they are both younger than Butler and that helps as well.
I don’t get why legacy doesn’t matter more than salary when they already have so much saved and so much money coming from things outside of the league. It would make sense to take a massive pay cut to free space for other players. I actually don’t know a thing about sports or sports management. But this intuitively seems like a fair deal for a lebron or a curry at this stage in their careers, where a pristine legacy will earn them more money and happiness over the long haul than any salary (present or future).
The man is being good money, he has love from within the organization, and he has already won four titles. It's just a matter of what's important to him right now. The Warriors are not in a position to really win right now, but every franchise is looking at the financial horizon with dropping ratings. This environment is forcing front offices to be more conservative. As for Kuminga, he's a great athletic player and a potential break-out star but there must be a reason why the Warriors are hedging and maybe it's not about salary.
No such thing as an easy win in the NBA. Grates my last nerve when casual fans say this. You've obviously never competed in anything at the highest level if you think any NBA team except MAYBE the Wizards is and should be an easy win.
This might sound harsh, but Steph made this bed. People often complain about Kerr and rightly so but the team plays the way that they do as much because of Steph and Dray as Kerr. If Steph desperately wanted a different roster and to run different schemes etc then they would. Truth is they have all been just as complacent as one another which has brought them here. And now the decline for Steph and Dray is very much real, neither of them are good enough individually or as a unit to be building an entire team around and expect to actually win consistently. I don't think they will bite the bullet and trade him nor do I think he's so competitive that he will request one. It will just be more of the same for the next few years. For myself JK is the only reason to watch the team at this point. He's not now and may never be the star he hopes to be, but he's far more entertaining than stale Curry ball at this point. I followed the team closely and watched about every game either live on League Pass or a breakdown of it after the fact, but I just can't anymore, it's frankly too frustrating watching a team do the exact same things over and over again and expect different results.
Hope Steph wants out and contend for a title somewhere else. Don't care about this sorry ahh franchise. They are basically spitting in Stephs face. Steph deserves one last shot at another championship and the Warriors are messing this up.
I think Steph should ask for a trade. He's played and won enough for the Warriors to establish his legacy there. He doesn't need to be a Warrior for life
They arent lost but the run is over. I am not sure what Warriors fans see but lets be realistic...the only player of value is Steph. Tjhat entire team is wasting his time
Dump that useless contract of Draymond Green and use the money to pick up someone who can play the game. This isn't a friendship association, it's a business and he is not doing anything for them.
Your obsession with Butler to the Warriors is so annoying. It makes absolutely no sense to gut their roster for a guy who doesnt fit in well, barely plays, and will need to be signed to an untradeable contract
Warriors fate was sealed the day they lost the 2020 draft first pick (remember they were the worst team record ways). They would have got ant and everything would be different
Here is what I would do behind the scenes for season 2025-2026: Get the ole gang back together again for their version of The Last Dance. Reach out to Andre Iguodala for a role as a player assistance coach. Draymond, Kerr, and Steph should have a secret meeting with KD. Yes, I said KD. Have him come back. Also grab a veteran big man from ...oh I dunno, Europe. They must have saw some good ones at the Olympics. Hell, chat with Kay too. Get them all together and then they must pretty much live in the gym. And when next season starts - they go all the hell out! Out of the gate like a race horse. If they win it all then decide if they want to continue forward. If they don't make it to the big dance ....well it was a hell of a run and the fans will love you for it.
IMO they need to move on from Kerr. He is a big part of what is holding the team back. Front office decisions are being made with how he operates. The team has 0 players taller than 6’9” (Quinton Post 7’0” TW contract). Granted there have been some injuries but 14 different starters so far in 38 games. Kerr’s system isn’t working for Wiggins, Kuminga, and others and/or he simply can’t find minutes for them to get into rhythm gain some consistency. They traded for Schroeder to help take some of the scoring pressure, in a small sample size he’s playing 5 less minutes (not a great backcourt pairing), and his points have basically halved. Add this to Kerr’s blunders at the FIBA World Cup (acknowledge they sent a C team), and his inability to juggle the depth he had at the Olympics Time to move on from Kerr.
Steph dray wigs needs to be gone the warriors need to be as bad as possible for the next few years to get the next era of warriors basketball Steph in Houston would be a seamless fit
I would love to see LeBron come to GSW in FA and him and steph take a little less to have 2 fun seasons together playing good basketball increasing the ratings then riding off ibto the sunset Maybe even surpriaing everyone and getting to the finals
"A ton of teams" would be ready to trade for Curry... Curry`s defense is at an all time low. He could be a good complimentary piece to established teams, but almost nobody can trade for him without gutting their roster. Curry is untradable now, especially if the goal is the championship.
PLEASE KEEP DRAYMOND GREEN AWAY FROM THE MAVERICKS. I haven't heard anything about him or the Mavs linked. I have no idea if he would want to come here. Or if the Mavs would want him here. Im just preemptively expressing my feelings on the matter. Not that my feelings really matter anyway.
The problem with two time line. They never played the young guys and to develop them. Now they are older and bad habits. Cause they never prioritize there development. Trade Stephen anywhere he like to go. Forget any real draft stuff. He alone made the team any real value. Draymond ask if he would like to Detroit. Cause he from Michigan. Fire to trade Steve Kurr. Rebuild
Curry is going to be a Warrior for life. They won’t contend for anything the next few years but they’ll be good enough to stay competitive until he retires.
The Warriors would be a top 3 team in the west right now if they were a good development organization. they're terrible at developing players. if they actually took the time and effort to develop Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski, they would actually be one of the best teams in the league. But they didn't, and the warriors dont deserve a guy in steph who had to watch them waste true young talent
We've seen that when the Warriors are forced to go away from Kerr's midget motion offense and runs more pick and rolls, they win. They went 12-3 using Stott's offense and Kerr got his panties in a bunch over the accolades that Stotts was receiving. His fragile ego caused the return to midget ball, sometimes with four small guards on the floor at the same time. If I was Steph I would demand that Kerr either be fired or traded, or Steph should demand a trade. The combo of Lacob and Kerr is a disaster and they refuse to acknowledge that the $9 billion value placed on the team is because of Steph. They fail to realize that the Chase Center was built by Steph. Kerr never should have been given that huge extension. It doomed Curry and the team to mediocrity. I said it when it happened and I stick to it. As long as Curry plays for Kerr he will never even sniff another title. It's tragic.
Can we stop with the Blasphemy, channels like this are cap. Golden State Already shut down these non sensical channels topics. Steph is more than a player, do u realize how much money Steph brings the Warriors just by being on this roster? They are the highest revenue team right now, the highest in nba history. It’s more than rings g use your head they are not trading Steph. Knock off the trash
At some point are they going to look at Kerr? Or just act like he’s amazing at developing players. If I’m Curry I’m asking to move on. Teams will line up. But I bet they make a crazy trade. Maybe kawhi even. Wouldn’t be surprised
Steph is huge reason. He's not that good anymore. Ever seen Lebron scoring 2pts? Funny thing when Lebron had couple of bad games everyone jumped on 'he's done' wagon. Steph have mediocre season and no one talks about that.
Curry has been a great system player who only broke out as a star and experienced sustained team success under Kerr. Although Steph is a great SG/combo guard, he has not been one to single-handedly elevate the team to perennial contender without Kerr AND at least two in-prime perennial all-star teammates (Klay, Draymond, Durant). With the current level of supporting cast Curry has, Jokic, Olajuwon, Admiral, and MJ would still be at worst a mid-seed for the playoffs. In fact, Jokic has never played with a single active all-star teammate, much less multiple teammates! Furthermore, Nikola shows his value for elevating teammates with Westbrook playing the best he has since his prime years, which is not much to speak about LeBalco, Kawhi/George, or Harden.
Any team or GM that puts faith and trust into Buddy Hield should be both fired and drug tested. Hes literally like the last NBA player in the entire league id put trust into. He started for Sacramento for around 5-6 seasons. Not only did they ever even come close to making the playoffs, they never even had A winning record his entire tenure there. Traded to a rebuilding Pacers team and started Hot like He usually always does then started declining so rapidly He lost his starting job. The last season there 5 of his last 8 games he had 3 points or less. The team lost 8/9 with Him in the starting lineup and when they Finally removed from the starting lineup they won 8/9 inckuding llke 7 in a row. Immediately after moving him out the starting lineup. Kings were a 3 seed and broke the 16 year curse the very first full season Buddy wasnt there. I mean if that isnt telling i dont know what to tell You. Pacers made the eastern conference finals same season after Buddy was traded. He started hot in philly but it got so bad Philly was in danger of not even making play in. After Nurse drastically reduced his minutes they went on a winning streak and made play in. He literally didnt score a point until game 6 in philly and didnt even play at all 4 or 5 of the games except a couple minutes. Philly had zero interest in signing Him. Golden State was the only team that finally showed him interest. He was like the last player signed before the season started. The fact that Dunleavey gave Buddy Hield a 4 year contract at least that is what i heard is damn near a fireable offense. Buddy Hield is LITERALLY The Definition of fools Gold. He should be a snake oil salesman. His ability to dupe fan bases is beyond unbelievable after He first arrives. Every team and fan base thinks itll be different. Hes maybe the dumbest player in the entire NBA. I hate to be mean like that but its true. Listen to any post press conference interview. His voice will throw You off. The voice that You will think He has in so incorrect. Youll almost think that when You hear Him that Hes on the spectrum
The Warriors can't contend with Steph. They don't have the pieces or capital to get pieces. If they go all in to bring in a Butler or Markannen, they will have to gut their depth to do so. They tried so hard to bring in PG, and that would have been crap. So they cannot compete like Steph thinks they should be able to. Same with Lebron in LA. These guys are not good enough anymore, and the teams can't make the moves to prop them up. Contenders need depth to compete, and for the Warriors to get better, they have to trade from their depth. If they trade Wiggins, Kuminga, and some change for Butler, are they a better team? Especially when Butler and Curry and Draymond are old and can get injured any time? Nobody wants to help the Warriors or Lakers. So the choice is not whether or not to go all in. It doesn't matter if they do. The choice is do Steph and the Warriors want to settle for this, so that Steph can wind down his career on one team, or do they want a trade? And if a trade, do they prioritize getting Steph to a contender or maximizing the return? No matter what happens, Steph is going to be synonymous with the Warriors, and time will heal any wounds. So it really comes down to what do Steph and the Warriors really want?
If I were the front office, I wouldn’t ask him. Or, I might ask him but he doesn’t have the definitive decision. Trade Steph whether he likes it or not, or if you don’t, admit that you’re prioritizing his legacy his ability to sell tickets and merch over winning
These comments revering steph are hilarious. It's aaaaaaalmost like noone actually watches basketball and they just regurgitate a narrative they've heard over and over and over. But surely that's not the case right? 😆
Warriors are trash and no trade is gonna help Steph even sniff the panties of contending again in the bay. Pretty hilarious watching him go down with that dumpster fire of a ship.
This is the modern 2k/ casual NBA fan mindset. This asinine idea that you'll compete for titles forever!😂 Many dudes NEVER won or even had a shot. Dude was in 6 NBA Finals! Won 4! Its cyclical. Great players usually get drafted to mediocre teams. You play long enough you retire on a mediocre team. Ashes to ashes. I mean, where are they trading Steph that won't have to give up 3 of their top 5-6 players to get him?! Denver for Murray!? 😂 Everybody can't go out like Kareem. Bad management choices that didn't pay off long term or at all (Wiseman, Poole, Wiggins, Kuminga) are why they're in this position. Most team NEVER even get be in that situation. Enjoy watching him play until he retires. That's it. Side note, this is why steph isn't a point guard and definitely not the best PG of all time. Hes a scoring guard. His
I want you to know I really appreciate not having a sports betting ad this one. Big ups to you.
Why are u addict? Cant see without acting? Want a ad for cheesecloth bro
@Never once done sports betting. I just think it’s immoral to promote something so addictive and life damaging to an audience that likely contains young individuals. I don’t know why you felt the need to comment something so aggressive but there’s the reply you wanted.
@benjismith2549 i think u a lil bit censonship is good people shouldnt choose and benji smith is a bit
*We appreciate it. Gambling is foul and just not smart willingly playing a rigged game. The morality of it is wack on both sides and frick you if you defend it. There's no defense.
@ManafestoRah is it free country lil bit
If Steph wants to ride with Steve Kerr and Draymond until the wheels fall off, that's his decision.
They are there.
Brother, the wheels have fallen off
Frfr he should have dabbled in his LeGM bag and moved draymond
At some point you have to operate your NBA franchise like an NBA franchise and stop living in the past solely because you think its a cute idea for your franchise’s best ever to spend the rest of his days there on several mediocre at best teams
Yeah, even if they trade Steph, his legacy will be ingrained with the Warriors.
Yeah, but I mean with Lifers you play a different set of rules. They’ll eventually be bad enough to get another good pick, they just REALLY dropped the ball on LaMelo. Their franchise would be in a completely different place if they took him.
Fans will never be happy.
If a player wants to leave, they’re disloyal. If that same player wants to stay on a bad team, he’s stat chasing and empty calories.
If the franchise trades a star, they get accused of tanking. If they keep the star, they’re wasting the star’s best years.
I say, at some point, they need to stop listening to fans and analysts (and players, in many cases) and run their business.
@@TheySayMaddoxnaw it would’ve looked like when dlo was on the team lamelo not a winning player just a chuck on a bad team
Welp he goes down as the greatest warriors player of all time. If he wants to stay and retire he’s more welcome to stay and retire. If he wants a move it’s fine. If he wants one last minute push. Warriors are patient for the right move. Not many players out there that moves the needle. 🪡 Jokic and Giannis aren’t available. Shows you how hard the market is.
Honestly, the Warriors had 2 years to finally trade Kuminga and strike the iron why it was hot to get value out of a player that clearly does not work for the team, they massively overvalued him and failed to get a deal done. Now it is kind of too late as Kumingas value is getting lower because of his unrealistic contract expectations, he wants a max extention, but is very far away from being that kind of player.
I think you don’t get the big picture. Kuminga is 22. He will great in 2-4 seasons from now. Also his market has gone up. Guys like Franz Wagner drove his value high once he got the 200 million extension. You would be prob those guys that want Kuminga out just for him to prove you wrong on another team 2-4 seasons from now.
@@javierlandaverde4108Teams dont want to pay Kuminga 200 million dollars
His trade value was never quite good though because of the salary. Aside from talent, the salary should more or less match.
@ Comparing Kuminga to Wagner is quite frankly ridiculous. Kuminga has not shown anything close to Wagners level of play, we have seen Kuminga play for 4 seasons now and it is basically still the same as his first year, sure great athleticism and impressive moments, but overall he still looks like a headless chicken on the court if he does not have the ball and i am doubtful that will ever change, not sure where you take the confidence from that he will suddenly be a great player in 2-4 years. I honestly think that Franz Wagner was a better player in his first NBA game than Kuminga is now and that is not really close. Kuminga can not shoot, can not really defend and has one of the worst BBIQs of all players in the League, watching him play drives me absolutely insane, he does something absolutely ridiculous almost every min he is on the court. Kuminga is the kind of player that looks amazing in any highlight video because of his athleticism, but as soon as you watch an actual game you are absolutely not surprised that neither the coaches nor teammates trust him on the court at all.
I also disagree that his value increased, i actually think it decreased a lot the last season simply because of his expectation to give him a max extention and his deal looming. He will most likely get overpaid by a bad team that has not really a choice to take a gamble that they will deeply regret.
@@javierlandaverde4108 Franz is already a top 40 player and averaging 10 more points and 4 more assists per game on higher efficiency. Comparing Kuminga to him is silly, we've seen Franz do it. Kuminga is nowhere CLOSE to a max player.
I just saw the HEAT without a certain suspended player get a win against the WARRIORS. It was really sad how far they have fallen time for a rebuild.
Honestly the issue is that Kerr is not coaching this team well. He's trying to run an offense that depends on prime Steph and Klay, and not one that takes advantage of what he has on the roster right now. There is also the eternal Warriors issue of not having a rim protecting big. But Jimmy Butler doesn't help with that. Jimmy would be a terrible mistake.
Trading Steph would be a good move if you can get something huge, but you'd also probably need something more than just picks. If Kerr took more advantage of his current roster, I do think you'd see a return to the early season Warriors that's more sustainable though.
Meh... Most of people said Kerr is a genious just 2 months ago after GSW's hot start.
He's always been a genious when the team is winning and a dunce when the team is struggling.
He is what he is, but most of the noise is just noise.
@@konzza the people saying that were just looking at the record at not the mirage that it was.
Kuminga is a great example of Kerr failing the roster. He wants Kuminga to be Andrew Wiggins. However, Kuminga is much better going downhill as a ballhandler.
Watching the Warriors you could see that they were actually starting to do that before he got injured. It'll be interesting to see if they'll go back to it.
@@konzza Nah he has always been a coach who rode mark jackson's coattails.
The ugly truth is, they aren't a good team and no trade is going to fix that. Steph is so phenomenal they remain relevant, but they simply are not competitive.
a kd trade could make them a 3rd seed bare minimum
@@RayAvkDwhy would he prove that he can’t win without Steph
That depends on what you mean by relevant. GSW still sells tickets, but they might miss the playoffs...
@@Will4all85 ur right but if kd wins another ring with curry. Curry would be top 5. While Kd would probably be 10. Depending who won finals mvp
Losing w historic bench lol
All I can say is, as a Spurs fan, I was very glad that Timmy and Manu never suited up for anyone else.
This is all ownership's and management's fault. Lacob acted like he and Kerr had solved the NBA, they just got lucky that they hit on three or four drafts in a row. Also, at the beginning, Steph had an ankle injury and they were able to sign him to a below market value contract.
id rather see Steph leave than watch him play for this mediocre warriors roster
I’d rather see him stay. He won what he could. Winning doesn’t last forever. Just make his millions and ride out his legacy in the bay.
@@harveydent8714 losing every night and seeing steph upset and angry is taking years off his life. all that stress and load trying to carry the warriors. he either needs to chill out and coast his legacy or he needs to find a move away from the warriors where he can be more of a supporting piece.
@@johnmarkson1990 he ain’t angry or mad. He said one title push would he fair but he had nothing left to prove. He won everything.
Not every star needs to be in a rush to leave. I don’t believe in blind loyalty to the franchise, but being on one team with all that success is a serious feather in his cap in the modern NBA.
@johnmarkson1990 Why would steph leave anyway? He's 36 which makes no sense for him to leave
I think Steph is a lifer. If he took less money next deal they could maybe send him out on a high note
There might not be any next deal for Steph. He extended his contract by one year last summer and will earn 62m in 2028. The only way Warriors can get him any high note is if they magically build a contending team with draft picks until then to complement with the young guys they are having right now. This would prob need Kuminga or Podz to break the hell out and thats unrealistic.
the team can't put that on Steph. if they're going to trade him, the team needs to be out front of it instead of making it seems like he's asking to be traded. even if Steph does ask to be traded, the team shouldn't put that on him imo. he's done way too much for that franchise for they to put that on him
Lol damage control is crazy
Imma be real. I'm a big warriors fan but even bigger fan of curry as my favorite player ever. But it's either you rebuild and trade Steph or make one more big retool. Steph is a winner and want to stay and win. But I think we all want him to at the very least play out the rest of his career to make the most of it. I WANT STEPH TO STILL PLAY AND BE ENJOYING IT. Bro looks exhausted and he's been playing through injuires because he has to for this team. They are way to overreliant on Steph and Kerr needs to listen to Stackhouse and stotts because his way of coaching isn't cutting it at all.
bros gonna get an actual injury from carrying too hard like kobe did
Kerr has never been a good coach. He rode the team to 4 rings that was gifted to him by Mark Jackson and Jerry West.
I agree with you 100% - the correct basketball decision is to part ways with Steph and Draymond while they still have value. Just like with Lillard in Portland.
The "Two Timelines" experiment imploded with the Wiseman pick.
Shoulda picked Melo over Wiseman
If they part ways with those two and the same time then they will part ways with their fan base.
Imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
@@OntarioAndrews415 are fans having a good time right now? This is what it will look like the next two years unless Podz turns into Steve Nash when he returns.
I don't think Draymond has value lol
Team imploded with the Draymond punch. They should've traded him a long time ago with the KD situation. He's a problem and his good perimeter and passing can be found in a lot of other actual bigs over the last 5 years. Draymond killed this team and rhey allowed him to do it, even gave him an extension.
I dont think theres a trade that fixes this team because of steve kerrs refusal to stick with a lineup to get some consistency. Thats been a huge part of the problem. The gm could have made this easy by committing to a path youth vs veteran. They paid moody to play less somehow. Just terrible management.
I like how most of the highlights was against the pelicans
Always enjoy your videos!
“There were hurt feelings when Klay left”😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jamal Murray for Step Curry
Imagine Nikola Jokic passing to Curry getting infinite wide open spot up shots
*things that would be very cool but would never happen
Cool idea, but the warriors would get nothing back.
Imagine Steph joining Jokic :O
Unrealistic sadly Jokic and Curry contracts are too big
Kd signing all over again
@@RayAvkD ?
Murray and Mpj are almost equal to Steph
Steph is 60
Murray is 50 and Mpj is 40 iirc
Yup, imagine those 2 in the pick and roll on defense every possession.
Life just comes around. He was extremely fortunate to have landed in GS, and had some of most well rounded rosters ever built around him. Now as he goes into the last bit of his career , he’s feeling what LeBron got early in his career. Respect to Steph but this will be it until he retires
Steph is not just a NBA player but an international phenomenon that are strictly tied to Warriors. That’s too much of loss for business standpoint. Also, only couple of rebuilding teams are now contenders and it took them more than 5 years until they get there.
People hate when loyal players are traded, people hate when the franchise is loyal to the player whos done so much for them. Theres no winning with yall
No, DIFFERENT people hate those things and like the other, and also its situational. “Theres no winning with yall so fuck it” is not a franchise management strategy
@@Mannyc7 100% facts. Yall need to STFU and let Steph make his decision. He’s absolutely won everything and has nothing to prove.
Dude warriors aren’t being loyal to Steph letting him go down with that dumpster fire of a roster.
@@streettoughfighting there isn’t no Jokic and Giannis available. Even if they get Vucavic or Lavine. It doesn’t guarantee a ring.
What's even worse is they aren't even aware that they do it and are like that. They just regurgitate common consensus and follow what everyone else says like Sheep
Butler comes with a player option for 50 mil lol. Ain't no way they signing him.
I honestly do not think Jimmy Butler raises the needle for the Warriors at this point in his career.
They are going to have to look at Portland, Washington, Utah, Brooklyn, Toronto and Philadelphia to be trade partners with.
I just don't see a path with Butler going to Golden State and them being a better team.
I think Butler will be too much of distraction for them because of his wanting a max extension.
They would do much better if they tried to get something like Jeremi Grant and Robert Williams from Portland. I don't know if that is possible or not, but I feel like they would improve the team more woth them because Grant is a good shooter and Williams is a damn good interior defender and rim protector. I don't know if there would be interest between the two teams or not. If they can wdork the financial side out or not.
I just think Grant and Williams move the needle more. Plus they are both younger than Butler and that helps as well.
GSW now are a play-in team at their peak condition
Damn that’s crazy they was lookin smooth at the beginning of the season with buddy hield
Golden state missing on the top 3 lottery pick was a big turning point
You need to do video on the resurgence of the Pistons!
I don’t get why legacy doesn’t matter more than salary when they already have so much saved and so much money coming from things outside of the league.
It would make sense to take a massive pay cut to free space for other players.
I actually don’t know a thing about sports or sports management. But this intuitively seems like a fair deal for a lebron or a curry at this stage in their careers, where a pristine legacy will earn them more money and happiness over the long haul than any salary (present or future).
Couldn’t agree more! Also, it’s just counterintuitive to be increasing the players salary if they are past their peak which both steph and Lebron are.
The man is being good money, he has love from within the organization, and he has already won four titles. It's just a matter of what's important to him right now. The Warriors are not in a position to really win right now, but every franchise is looking at the financial horizon with dropping ratings. This environment is forcing front offices to be more conservative. As for Kuminga, he's a great athletic player and a potential break-out star but there must be a reason why the Warriors are hedging and maybe it's not about salary.
Their early record was a mirage ... they played like 10 tomato cans to start the year
No such thing as an easy win in the NBA. Grates my last nerve when casual fans say this.
You've obviously never competed in anything at the highest level if you think any NBA team except MAYBE the Wizards is and should be an easy win.
This might sound harsh, but Steph made this bed. People often complain about Kerr and rightly so but the team plays the way that they do as much because of Steph and Dray as Kerr. If Steph desperately wanted a different roster and to run different schemes etc then they would. Truth is they have all been just as complacent as one another which has brought them here.
And now the decline for Steph and Dray is very much real, neither of them are good enough individually or as a unit to be building an entire team around and expect to actually win consistently.
I don't think they will bite the bullet and trade him nor do I think he's so competitive that he will request one. It will just be more of the same for the next few years.
For myself JK is the only reason to watch the team at this point. He's not now and may never be the star he hopes to be, but he's far more entertaining than stale Curry ball at this point.
I followed the team closely and watched about every game either live on League Pass or a breakdown of it after the fact, but I just can't anymore, it's frankly too frustrating watching a team do the exact same things over and over again and expect different results.
your views and points are spot on, agree 100%
Like they always say in these situations--even Jordan played for the Wizards.
Hope Steph wants out and contend for a title somewhere else. Don't care about this sorry ahh franchise. They are basically spitting in Stephs face. Steph deserves one last shot at another championship and the Warriors are messing this up.
Late stage Kobe Bryant might be the best comparison here.
But Kobe had his injuries and the Lakers owed protected firsts for Nash and Howard.
Winning somewhere else is also not a guarantee.. who has the 55M available space in their roster and can keep their number 1 guy?
I think Steph should ask for a trade. He's played and won enough for the Warriors to establish his legacy there. He doesn't need to be a Warrior for life
Hypothetically what if Steph leaves and dray is the only player in the big 3 to have played his entire career with the warriors
You're not using your brain if you think Curry and management haven't discussed all those things, every season
It's like trying to feel sorry for the Kansas City Chiefs
butler would not solve our problems, we need a big
They arent lost but the run is over. I am not sure what Warriors fans see but lets be realistic...the only player of value is Steph. Tjhat entire team is wasting his time
Lavine is a no and Cameron Johnson is a no.
Watch Charlotte make a go at him while also making a go for Jimmy Butler in the offseason.
Send Steph to the Spurs. They are a team that can afford him, have trade capital, and would be a great fit for what Steph can provide.
Dump that useless contract of Draymond Green and use the money to pick up someone who can play the game. This isn't a friendship association, it's a business and he is not doing anything for them.
Jonathan Kumiga will not be traded because the Heat would want Kumiga and Jk is not getting traded.
Trade Podz and Kuminga for better chemistry players.
Your obsession with Butler to the Warriors is so annoying. It makes absolutely no sense to gut their roster for a guy who doesnt fit in well, barely plays, and will need to be signed to an untradeable contract
They lost Klay, KD, and Poole to keep Draymond
Leave the Warriors Steph leave now.
Trade Steph while you can get something for him. Remember the past, don’t live in it
They need to either do a big win now move or trade steph curry to a team He thinks He can win which would probably be Lakers TBH.
Warriors fate was sealed the day they lost the 2020 draft first pick (remember they were the worst team record ways). They would have got ant and everything would be different
Ant would have become what moody is. Kerr wouldn't have benched Klay for him.
Steph looked big sad after getting smoked by the Kings.
Is a little disingenuous to say they are way at the bottom. The West is super competitive right now. Only a four game difference between 4th and 12th.
draymond ruined the franchise twice just saying
Just get Jimmy, go all in and help the Heat rebuild 😂
Steph‘s situation is the same is Lebum’s. Just leave them be.
The warriors should try to get booker
How many guards do you need?
Can’t blame the players. Fire Steve Kurr.
Demand a trade to the Spurs, Steph and Wemby would be must watch basketball...
Here is what I would do behind the scenes for season 2025-2026: Get the ole gang back together again for their version of The Last Dance. Reach out to Andre Iguodala for a role as a player assistance coach. Draymond, Kerr, and Steph should have a secret meeting with KD. Yes, I said KD. Have him come back. Also grab a veteran big man from ...oh I dunno, Europe. They must have saw some good ones at the Olympics. Hell, chat with Kay too. Get them all together and then they must pretty much live in the gym. And when next season starts - they go all the hell out! Out of the gate like a race horse. If they win it all then decide if they want to continue forward. If they don't make it to the big dance ....well it was a hell of a run and the fans will love you for it.
IMO they need to move on from Kerr. He is a big part of what is holding the team back.
Front office decisions are being made with how he operates. The team has 0 players taller than 6’9” (Quinton Post 7’0” TW contract).
Granted there have been some injuries but 14 different starters so far in 38 games.
Kerr’s system isn’t working for Wiggins, Kuminga, and others and/or he simply can’t find minutes for them to get into rhythm gain some consistency.
They traded for Schroeder to help take some of the scoring pressure, in a small sample size he’s playing 5 less minutes (not a great backcourt pairing), and his points have basically halved.
Add this to Kerr’s blunders at the FIBA World Cup (acknowledge they sent a C team), and his inability to juggle the depth he had at the Olympics
Time to move on from Kerr.
Steph dray wigs needs to be gone the warriors need to be as bad as possible for the next few years to get the next era of warriors basketball Steph in Houston would be a seamless fit
Steph with the warriors would be a chip
On PG trade they didnt want to include Kuminga
I would love to see LeBron come to GSW in FA and him and steph take a little less to have 2 fun seasons together playing good basketball increasing the ratings then riding off ibto the sunset
Maybe even surpriaing everyone and getting to the finals
gsw fo is just like the heat fo, always promising that they are going to make all in moves to win but never delivering.
GSW should throw It all in a trade for Butler, so they have a chance to compete. If It doesnt work then trade Steph, but give It one more chance
I can’t see butler doing anything in the warriors
Eh I'm sure curry is good after that last championship. That proved a lot to the rest of the NBA. I don't see him ever not retiring a warrior
"A ton of teams" would be ready to trade for Curry... Curry`s defense is at an all time low. He could be a good complimentary piece to established teams, but almost nobody can trade for him without gutting their roster. Curry is untradable now, especially if the goal is the championship.
that's why there gm left he seen this happening
Dysfunction via Draymond and Kerr's enabling of the clown.
PLEASE KEEP DRAYMOND GREEN AWAY FROM THE MAVERICKS. I haven't heard anything about him or the Mavs linked. I have no idea if he would want to come here. Or if the Mavs would want him here. Im just preemptively expressing my feelings on the matter. Not that my feelings really matter anyway.
Imagine if they drafted Lamelo
Fire Steve Kerr immediately ‼️
The problem with two time line. They never played the young guys and to develop them. Now they are older and bad habits. Cause they never prioritize there development. Trade Stephen anywhere he like to go. Forget any real draft stuff. He alone made the team any real value. Draymond ask if he would like to Detroit. Cause he from Michigan. Fire to trade Steve Kurr. Rebuild
Curry is going to be a Warrior for life. They won’t contend for anything the next few years but they’ll be good enough to stay competitive until he retires.
bruh they're not competitive right now
Competitive for the play in?
The Warriors would be a top 3 team in the west right now if they were a good development organization. they're terrible at developing players. if they actually took the time and effort to develop Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski, they would actually be one of the best teams in the league. But they didn't, and the warriors dont deserve a guy in steph who had to watch them waste true young talent
We've seen that when the Warriors are forced to go away from Kerr's midget motion offense and runs more pick and rolls, they win. They went 12-3 using Stott's offense and Kerr got his panties in a bunch over the accolades that Stotts was receiving. His fragile ego caused the return to midget ball, sometimes with four small guards on the floor at the same time. If I was Steph I would demand that Kerr either be fired or traded, or Steph should demand a trade. The combo of Lacob and Kerr is a disaster and they refuse to acknowledge that the $9 billion value placed on the team is because of Steph. They fail to realize that the Chase Center was built by Steph. Kerr never should have been given that huge extension. It doomed Curry and the team to mediocrity. I said it when it happened and I stick to it. As long as Curry plays for Kerr he will never even sniff another title. It's tragic.
Can we stop with the Blasphemy, channels like this are cap. Golden State Already shut down these non sensical channels topics. Steph is more than a player, do u realize how much money Steph brings the Warriors just by being on this roster? They are the highest revenue team right now, the highest in nba history. It’s more than rings g use your head they are not trading Steph. Knock off the trash
At some point are they going to look at Kerr? Or just act like he’s amazing at developing players. If I’m Curry I’m asking to move on. Teams will line up. But I bet they make a crazy trade. Maybe kawhi even. Wouldn’t be surprised
Send Steph to the Bucks with Giannis
Steph is huge reason. He's not that good anymore. Ever seen Lebron scoring 2pts? Funny thing when Lebron had couple of bad games everyone jumped on 'he's done' wagon. Steph have mediocre season and no one talks about that.
Curry has been a great system player who only broke out as a star and experienced sustained team success under Kerr. Although Steph is a great SG/combo guard, he has not been one to single-handedly elevate the team to perennial contender without Kerr AND at least two in-prime perennial all-star teammates (Klay, Draymond, Durant). With the current level of supporting cast Curry has, Jokic, Olajuwon, Admiral, and MJ would still be at worst a mid-seed for the playoffs. In fact, Jokic has never played with a single active all-star teammate, much less multiple teammates! Furthermore, Nikola shows his value for elevating teammates with Westbrook playing the best he has since his prime years, which is not much to speak about LeBalco, Kawhi/George, or Harden.
Go to Dallas and join Klay again!
them and the suns need 2 make a big trade why not KD 2 Warriors or Curry 2 Suns
Any team or GM that puts faith and trust into Buddy Hield should be both fired and drug tested.
Hes literally like the last NBA player in the entire league id put trust into.
He started for Sacramento for around 5-6 seasons. Not only did they ever even come close to making the playoffs, they never even had A winning record his entire tenure there.
Traded to a rebuilding Pacers team and started Hot like He usually always does then started declining so rapidly He lost his starting job.
The last season there 5 of his last 8 games he had 3 points or less. The team lost 8/9 with Him in the starting lineup and when they Finally removed from the starting lineup they won 8/9 inckuding llke 7 in a row. Immediately after moving him out the starting lineup.
Kings were a 3 seed and broke the 16 year curse the very first full season Buddy wasnt there. I mean if that isnt telling i dont know what to tell You.
Pacers made the eastern conference finals same season after Buddy was traded.
He started hot in philly but it got so bad Philly was in danger of not even making play in. After Nurse drastically reduced his minutes they went on a winning streak and made play in.
He literally didnt score a point until game 6 in philly and didnt even play at all 4 or 5 of the games except a couple minutes. Philly had zero interest in signing Him.
Golden State was the only team that finally showed him interest. He was like the last player signed before the season started.
The fact that Dunleavey gave Buddy Hield a 4 year contract at least that is what i heard is damn near a fireable offense.
Buddy Hield is LITERALLY The Definition of fools Gold. He should be a snake oil salesman. His ability to dupe fan bases is beyond unbelievable after He first arrives. Every team and fan base thinks itll be different.
Hes maybe the dumbest player in the entire NBA. I hate to be mean like that but its true. Listen to any post press conference interview. His voice will throw You off. The voice that You will think He has in so incorrect. Youll almost think that when You hear Him that Hes on the spectrum
Trade fox for curry 👀
Curse draymond green 🤣
Scre.. them, poor warriors
The Warriors can't contend with Steph. They don't have the pieces or capital to get pieces. If they go all in to bring in a Butler or Markannen, they will have to gut their depth to do so. They tried so hard to bring in PG, and that would have been crap. So they cannot compete like Steph thinks they should be able to. Same with Lebron in LA. These guys are not good enough anymore, and the teams can't make the moves to prop them up. Contenders need depth to compete, and for the Warriors to get better, they have to trade from their depth. If they trade Wiggins, Kuminga, and some change for Butler, are they a better team? Especially when Butler and Curry and Draymond are old and can get injured any time? Nobody wants to help the Warriors or Lakers.
So the choice is not whether or not to go all in. It doesn't matter if they do. The choice is do Steph and the Warriors want to settle for this, so that Steph can wind down his career on one team, or do they want a trade? And if a trade, do they prioritize getting Steph to a contender or maximizing the return? No matter what happens, Steph is going to be synonymous with the Warriors, and time will heal any wounds. So it really comes down to what do Steph and the Warriors really want?
If I were the front office, I wouldn’t ask him. Or, I might ask him but he doesn’t have the definitive decision. Trade Steph whether he likes it or not, or if you don’t, admit that you’re prioritizing his legacy his ability to sell tickets and merch over winning
These comments revering steph are hilarious. It's aaaaaaalmost like noone actually watches basketball and they just regurgitate a narrative they've heard over and over and over. But surely that's not the case right? 😆
Time to get rid of the coach . . . TDS is killing them. LOL
Warriors are trash and no trade is gonna help Steph even sniff the panties of contending again in the bay. Pretty hilarious watching him go down with that dumpster fire of a ship.
Warriors never offered kuminga for Paul George and laura marketing. Just Wiggins , filler , and one 1st .
Oh no! The warriors haven't won a title in 2 in years. The world is ending!
This is the modern 2k/ casual NBA fan mindset.
This asinine idea that you'll compete for titles forever!😂
Many dudes NEVER won or even had a shot. Dude was in 6 NBA Finals! Won 4!
Its cyclical. Great players usually get drafted to mediocre teams. You play long enough you retire on a mediocre team. Ashes to ashes.
I mean, where are they trading Steph that won't have to give up 3 of their top 5-6 players to get him?!
Denver for Murray!? 😂
Everybody can't go out like Kareem.
Bad management choices that didn't pay off long term or at all (Wiseman, Poole, Wiggins, Kuminga) are why they're in this position.
Most team NEVER even get be in that situation.
Enjoy watching him play until he retires. That's it.
Side note, this is why steph isn't a point guard and definitely not the best PG of all time. Hes a scoring guard.
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