Espero mi comentario sea útil para alguien que se encuentre indeciso de adquirir alguno de estos dos equipos; debo decir que he tenido la oportunidad de tener ambos, solo que no simultaneamente. De hecho cambié el KROSS por el MX, porque la verdad me interesan en sí los sonidos de piano acústico y eléctrico; además de que el sampler no lo usaba, ni el secuenciador (ya que solamente toco, no produzco). No hay discusión en cuanto a qué equipo gana en dichos sonidos (al menos en mi opinión), es decir; quién es el claro ganador. A decir verdad, Yamaha se lleva los pianos, pero KORG (reitero, en mi opinión y la experiencia que me llevé) tiene mejores sonidos de órganos, strings y metales que los que tiene Yamaha. En cuanto a sonidos de sintetizadores, lead, pads; es cuestión de gustos ya que ambos tienen buenos sonidos en dichas categorías. Todo es cuestión de gustos y necesidades, el MX tiene una interfaz de uso más simple y sencilla que la del KROSS, ya que este último presenta muchas posibilidades de editar los sonidos a tu gusto, así como sus arpegiadores y osciladores. En resúmen, si te interesa la edición de sonidos y producción de música el KROSS basta y sobra (muy bueno la verdad); por otra parte, si te interesa solamente tocar, y/o usar el teclado como controlador, el MX es una muy buena opción. Si tienes la oportunidad de adquirir ambos hazlo, se complementan muuy bien. Ya se que es mucho texto, pero espero que resulte se utilidad; saludos :)
buen aporte ... yo creo que voy a irme por yamaha mas por un tema de probar otra cosa, ya que vengo del korg triton por mas de 15 anos casi y quiero otro timbre en ese rango de precio
Gracias por el comentario! Te puedo hacer una pregunta ya que tuviste ambos? Yo tuve un korg x50 y resultó ser un muy buen sinte pero con muchos problemas técnicos (se me rompió 4 veces) y quería comprarme el kross 2 pero tengo miedo de volver a tener los problemas q tenía con mi anterior korg, además de que para el nivel de sonido y posibilidades que tiene su precio es muy barato lo cual me produce un poco de desconfianza...qué opinás? El MX es considerablemente más caro, al menos en argentina...
@@diegofernandezmardaraz4155 ¿qué tal Diego?, sí mira; la verdad es que el MX es más caro que el KROSS, aunque yo lo conseguí de oportunidad, me lo cambiaron por el KROSS. Debo decir que a veces extraño la interfaz de navegación y edición con la que cuenta el KROSS, y algunas gamas de sonido como los pianos eléctricos FM; además de que puedes utilizar el sintetizador como interface/interfaz de audio para ponerle un micrófono, mientras que el MX no cuenta con esta posibilidad pero tiene buen motor de edición de sonidos (al menos para lo que me interesa) aunque es más sencilla que la del KROSS. Bueno, ahora sí al grano; la verdad el MX se siente mucho mejor construido que el KROSS (aunque por una extraña razón el tacto de las teclas me gustó más en este), este se siente muy frágil, de modo que a la primera que se te caiga va a sufrir daños significativos, aunque la ventaja es que es muy ligero, práctico y portátil. Mientras le consigas una buena funda o estuche y dependiendo también qué tan cuidadoso seas con tus instrumentos (sin el afán de ofender, pero es que si hay gente muy tosca) todo bien, te debe durar. Respecto al MX en este ámbito creo que queda un poco más resuelto, es un poco más pesado (muy poca diferencia) y se siente mejor construido como dije antes, la ventaja que tiene este equipo es que puedes utilizar la aplicación FM Essential (siempre y cuando tengas un dispositivo Apple) que te da más posibilidades de control sobre los sonidos que trae la app. Si consigues el MX cuida que sea la versión 2 para que puedas usar FM Essential. Vas a diferenciar la versión 1 de la 2, porque la 1 tiene letras color vino/guinda (no estoy muy seguro que color sea, pero más o menos), mientras que la versión 2 tiene letras color naranja. Por lo demás, recuerda que todo es cuestión de gustos y necesidades y el tipo de música que toques; yo por ejemplo, opté mejor por el MX porque toco música cristiana, y para los sonidos que trae me parece mejor opción. Ya se que es mucho texto jaja, pero prefiero dar respuestas completas que puedan resolver otras dudas que surjan. Saludos desde México :)
Korg Kross 2 for the synth layers & strings...Yamaha Mx for the acoustic instruments especially ac pianos...it all have to do with one's personal taste & preference....2 awesome sounding keyboards...a win win!!!
You could argue that the MX61 has slightly better? acoustic sounds but I think the Kross would cut through much better in a mix. In the end the choice is what you think suits your needs. They are both great at this price point!
I've worked in a music store selling all varieties of synthesiser to portable keyboards, workstations. Etc. From my personal experience yamaha does have rich acoustic sounds. Like guitar and some woodwind instruments like soprano sexaphone. But it's string , bass and drums aren't really as good as Korg. If you compare them both in person with good sound system you will find that korg sounds richer even though it's sound engine is not as compatible to XG yamaha series like motif. One other thing is programing. You will find that the 16 track sequencing is much better then yamaha. Where by yamaha is limited. No matter how good their sound engine is. Personally I'm still a fan of Korg, Roland, Alesys, and Hammond when it comes to sounds like the pipe organ and etc.
I have both and like them both for different things. The Korg to me though is a better base keyboard instrument and the Yamaha excels at backup keyboard parts! I really like the Favorites and Set List options on the Korg which make it easy for me to switch to my favorite sounds quickly. However, being able to see 2 sounds at a time and switch to them and layer or split them on the Yamaha is also very handy for my background parts. I really love the Phat Korg Piano a lot after playing it in the band. I typically like to play the main keyboard sounds I use an octave lower than default so I had to save them all that way. Also I wish they didn't default all the sounds to have a drum kit and an arpeggiator on them so you have to turn them off---they should be additive features and not default, but you can save them how you want to.
I'm about to replace a broken MX61, so I decided to try something different, since my last four live keyboards have been Yamahas. The Kross 2 was on my short list, but one show-stopping feature (or lack thereof) took it off for me: on an MX61, you can change a patch (or bring in a layer) while holding down the sustain pedal and the change won't hit until you lift your foot. This is great to have, since if, say, I want to add strings to a piano for the chorus, I don't have to hit the layer button exactly on the downbeat of the chorus--I can hit it a bit early, so that when the chorus hits, I can be playing keys with both hands, instead of pushing a button with one hand. The Kross 2 changes as soon as you touch the button, whether you're sustaining or not. I ended up ordering a Roland Juno DS61 for that reason.
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I am a Yamaha guy generally, but from this demo I prefer the Kross 2 over the MX for most of the sounds other than flute and Wurlitzer electric piano. I have played an MX before, and own a Motif XF8, so I do have some reference. However, UA-cam videos do not always show exactly how something will sound in person.
Só quem tem um Korg Kross 2 sabe o que é um workstation prático e Robusto. Já toquei em Mx61 por um longo período mas quando comecei a usar o korg kross 2 me identifiquei com ele pela praticidade e qualidade impressionante que ele tem. Cada qual tem seu gosto, o meu foi o korg kross 2 e me surpreendo cada dia mais com ele.
Respeito muito as duas marcas e os modelos ,são grandes marcas...mais na minha opinião o mx superou em vários sons inclusive o piano...o timbre do piano do mx e perfeito , sempre procurando tirar o timbre mais próximo do piano de cauda. já o korg parece ter um som de piano mais artificial...mas como disse é minha opinião ,gosto é gosto kkkk
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EPs are always just subjective in my opinion. If the sound is pleasant and fits the song then who cares if it sounds exactly like the original? The dynamics and how well velocity switching is handled is more important and this wasn't really tested here. I'd give the edge to the MX61 on those criteria though.
Thanks so much for this demo/comparison. It's really helpful to me. In my opinion, the piano & the strings sound better on the Kross 2 than the MX61. But the flute & the clavinet sound better on the MX61. In general, both sound good but I prefer the Kross 2. The Kross 2 looks really sleek with the curvy sides but the first & last keys are exposed (on the side) so you have to be careful while carrying this keyboard, otherwise those keys might break. Thanks again.
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Very helpful as I am considering both of these. Disclaimer - I am a guitarist, playing keys is a third or fourth instrument at best and I play keys like a guitar player! I can clearly hear the differences, but it would have been helpful to me to know what patches were being compared, and to also hear some layers, although that would have made the video much longer, I realize! Coming at it as a guitarist, while some of the acoustic piano and even some of the EP sounds were maybe more "natural" on the Yamaha, I have to think that in a band situation that subtlety would not hold up. The Korg sounds like it would push the mix stronger. That might carry over to recording as well; maybe not. It also looked like the key action was a bit more natural on the Yamaha, but that was just observation and maybe not accurate. Thanks again though, very helpful!
I love Yamaha, but the build quality wasn't there in my opinion on the MX. It sounds great, but feels cheap to me. I'm buying a Kross 2, unfortunately It's a blind purchase. No one around here has 1 I can play.
It's kinda hard to say which one's better, but I get the feeling the Korg's trying to represent instruments while the Yamaha is trying to represent the way older Yamaha synths and workstations failed to perfectly represent instruments which they're so loved and cherished for today. A bit more situational than the Korg.
One of my favorite flute layers on the Yamaha is the "Sweet Flute" and the "2 Flute" I give the Sweet Fluit more volume to be more pronounced. Then I add just a touch of chorus and the stereo field really opens up. Sounds fantastic.
Yep, that MX flute is gorgeous. I have the Korg too, wish the flute was better on it, great vibraphone, though. Probably doesn't matter to most folks, but I play flute and was amazed by the MX flute.
NO NO NO. yamaha piano is shiet. decay sounds soooo synthetic, she sound like decays and then at some point freezes for EVER... its like 100% deal breaker. You can hear it here. At first it feels like minor prblm, but when you notice it, thats for ever
Muito bom os dois mas achei os pianos acústicos do mx61 mais bonitos já os timbres de clavi net do k2 achei mais fortes os órgãos da korg são mais agressivos mas o do Yamaha mais harmônicos as cordas deu empate td isso ao meu ver claro
Mas pode editado msm, ainda mais pq eles criaram um software exclusivo p linha mx 49 e 61 que é o vycro, com disposição para download grátis: vycromx.com/download/win/
Both are good but Korg has more full-body. Korg is like you are right up close to the instrument while the Yamaha has some room and space as if you were sitting further away from the instrument, whether it be a piano, or strings, or whatever.
Brother, the sound of the Kross seems to be more "chubby" ... but the Mx excels and much in quality (my opinion) although it seems a little less "chubby" ... (nothing a good edition does not solve, compressor, Eq, etc.) Congratulations on the video and everyone else !! I follow your channel to times, and for me is the best when it comes to demonstration of instruments and equipment.
I have used both extensively, being into ultra-lightweight keyboards that promise good quality sound. I play the MX a lot, and I've loaned the Kross (1, not 2, I admit, but I think the sounds are the same?) to a friend. The Kross' plusses are a) You can make more detailed Combi's with a greater number of different parts, on the synth itself. b) the sounds kind of jump out at you. (but that is a negative too, they can start sounding artificial at times.) The Yamaha has a better feeling keyboard to me, the Korg's being very springy - but you do get used to it, although you have to kind of 'pretend' you're playing a real keyboard, it does work after you get used to it. But on the other hand, the Yamaha can sound organ-like when you are in a band context. This is good for its ability to 'fill in' a band's sound, but the Korg has a different kind of more useful midrange dynamic. I was constantly making up new EP and Organ sounds thru editing on the Kross, not because you can, which IS a nice feature, but because the ones they provide, and the ones you can tweak them into, aren't quite satisfying. The Yamaha MX's EP's are really fantastic, as are some of their organ patches. That's why the Yamaha MX(49) is right here next to me, and the Kross is at a friend's place. I pick it up right before the holiday season, because with its (the Kross') superior "Multi' ability, I've programmed a bunch of Combi's in it that i use in Holidelic, a wild inclusive xmas funk band. To be fair, I did do one or two great local gigs on just the Kross 61 and a Hammond SK-1, that covered all the bases, and fooled everyone, hah! PS: on this very fine and useful muzykuj video, it sounds to me like, though both are excellent piano patches, the Korg Kross has a lot of well distributed transient info, but it decays too quickly for my taste.
Great descriptions. I too have used both Korg and Yamaha. It's so true that the Korg sounds jump out at you and I found that good for creating but not always so good while playing in a band. Sometimes you need to sounds to ease in and fill in the sound, not jump out of nowhere so abruptly. Better dynamics on the Yamaha too, as you said.
The Yamaha made me feel more emotion especially the pianos and we're more subtle and dark, very good in my opinion. Korg synth sounds are better though
I love my older Yamaha for the feel but have been using the K2 for over a year and find it to be easy to tweek. Both brands do a great job and cost less than a lot of their competitors.
I think I will buy the Kross 88 and the MX 49 to get the concert piano sound which I believe to be the best. It wont cost too much and I'll get the best of both worlds. ADD: After looking in detail the manuals for both models the Yamaha is very limited when it comes to modify the sounds. essentially you can change the attack, sustain, cutoff and resonance. There are LFOs to modulate the amplitude and pitch which for me is important if I want to be able to create my own sounds. Just for his reason, I would go for the Kross 2 or maybe consider the Juno DS from roland in about he same price range.
I have both now and selling the Kross and keeping the MX. The Kross has the midi and audio recorder advantage, but soundwise, except from Electric pianos and Synth sounds, (good on both boards, each in its own way), the MX beats the Kross on all other instruments. I would say that Electric Bass, Acoustic Drums and Organs are the instruments where there is the bigger gap in quality, in favour of the MX. The acoustic pianos are also more realistic on the MX
Six in one, half a dozen in the other. Both have their strengths. Yamaha sounded slightly better to me with piano, Korg's strings were better...it alternated back and forth for the most part. If I had to pick a winner on sound alone overall, a very slight edge to Yamaha. However, Korg has a pretty cool sampler with pads. I'm guessing the Yamaha does too? I did see what appear to be sample pads. Don't think you can go wrong either way.
It's like the SNES v Megadrive Question, this is the best comparison video. I bought the KORG after this video but there's very little difference in sound capabilities. I just love the KORG old school synth sounds. I would love to try the Juno tho!
OK, a question for gigging musicians: which one of these, or perhaps a closely matched and priced competitor (DS61?) would prove to be most useful on stage? I think I would be happy with the sound of either one; what about play-ability, changing bank/registers, on the fly adjustments, splits and layers and switching thereof, etc. Thanks for any useful info anyone can provide! Oh, and can I run my bass guitar through any of them? On several songs I swap back and forth, using the Right split and output for keys bass. Tone and volume I can match really well with my Casio, each going to the amp separately, but it would be nice to take both through the same effects chain.
oi amigo, muito bom o vídeo! Gostei de ambos, mas achei melhor o Kross! vou comprar um. Os teclados Korg ao vivo tem "punch" excelente. já tive um M50 e nossa...que som no PA. por outro lado tive algumas decepções com Roland e Yamaha no quesito ao vivo. No fone o som parece ótimo mas ao vivo....claro que não me refiro aos tops das marcas.
Exatamente! Acabei de testar um xps30 (mesmo nível do kross 2 e mx61) e vendo no UA-cam com fone, o som deles eram uma maravilha, mas no PA! Decepciona (pelo menos o xps30), não testei o mx61 nem o kross2, mas dizem que o kross é o que soa melhor no PA .
My friend, I've tested the modx and I felt really disappointed. It sounds with no more punch than MX. It doesn't mean modx is bad, but it means that there's no sense to buy more for the Modx
@@italo_spotter bro, i has 4 keys nord electro 6d, korg tr, mx and modx i love modx becoz it is similar to montage and superior sound quality... For stage purpose and for recording i definitely take modx and tr with me... Modx is superior workstation...
The Kross is warmer, but I like the larger range of frequencies that I'm hearing on the mx. It's easier to subtract freqs with an eq than to add them in later.
The problem with Yamaha is they put reverb by default on just about everything. And you think it sounds better until you sample the dry wave. I have both boards. Korg doesn't drown every sound out in reverb. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. But The MX61 and it's big brother are not the same. I have that one too.
Comes down to features. Sounds are all personal preference. If you listen to the Korg Kronos and MX...huge difference. Also, in price. However, these two are very similar in sound and it comes down to one's personal taste. The features on the MX are superior to me than the Kross. I used both in the store with DAW and the MX is more easy friendly. However, I do wish that the MX had a pad. Also, you save a little more money on the MX.
I got yamaha mx hoping for this great piano sound, but there is occasions that something very synthetic sticks out. Mostly the problem is with sustained sound, just pure digital synthesis. I was hoping it to replace my dinosaur M3, but not this time.
Same problem with my psr e 463 yamaha,sometimes while playing the piano voice with sustain,one or two notes in apassage would play out piano harmonic ,which is thin sounding like guitar harmonic
The top is basically a motif and the bottom seems to slightly upgraded with the piano sound. Korg is surprisingly good but it is being compared to a motif basically
Yamaha is better in changing sounds without cut but quality of sounds in Korg is best. Piano sounds in played in Korg is just for entry to learn editing sounds. There are so many pianos including Bollywood pianos Yamaha will have to take years to make such sounds.
I just sold my Korg Krome 61 and got the MX61...Korg was better ant phat synth but the MX blows it away in the Piano and EP category. And with the Vycro MX software ..you can do amazing, thick layered textures and splits
#1- in a band context, you are lucky to even be in the mix so the better piano or sounds dont matter when they are this close. #2- if you just set it and forget it one synth might sound better than the other but I'll change patches many times even in a song. Korg offers 8 banks of 16 pads so you can have your favorite combinations and programs easily available. Good luck being heard after the guitars come in and the deaf sound man is texting his boyfriend. . .
Se vc conprar um mx 61 vc estara conprando um sinth bonito e que nao deicha a desejar dos grandes ele tem dons derivados do motif quem conhece motif sabe o q estou falando Se vc conprar o kross vc vai ser muito feliz mas de 1000 sons de qualidade
Really can't give it a fair comparison because with the oscillator both keyboards can be tweak to sound the same. This is the power of midi synthesis if you know what you're doing.
to compare kross has more weight punch sounds. for my perspective.however x61 has brighter sounds. for budget get x61. to play sequence as work station at home. just my humble opinion. no offence means.
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Espero mi comentario sea útil para alguien que se encuentre indeciso de adquirir alguno de estos dos equipos; debo decir que he tenido la oportunidad de tener ambos, solo que no simultaneamente.
De hecho cambié el KROSS por el MX, porque la verdad me interesan en sí los sonidos de piano acústico y eléctrico; además de que el sampler no lo usaba, ni el secuenciador (ya que solamente toco, no produzco).
No hay discusión en cuanto a qué equipo gana en dichos sonidos (al menos en mi opinión), es decir; quién es el claro ganador.
A decir verdad, Yamaha se lleva los pianos, pero KORG (reitero, en mi opinión y la experiencia que me llevé) tiene mejores sonidos de órganos, strings y metales que los que tiene Yamaha.
En cuanto a sonidos de sintetizadores, lead, pads; es cuestión de gustos ya que ambos tienen buenos sonidos en dichas categorías.
Todo es cuestión de gustos y necesidades, el MX tiene una interfaz de uso más simple y sencilla que la del KROSS, ya que este último presenta muchas posibilidades de editar los sonidos a tu gusto, así como sus arpegiadores y osciladores.
En resúmen, si te interesa la edición de sonidos y producción de música el KROSS basta y sobra (muy bueno la verdad); por otra parte, si te interesa solamente tocar, y/o usar el teclado como controlador, el MX es una muy buena opción.
Si tienes la oportunidad de adquirir ambos hazlo, se complementan muuy bien.
Ya se que es mucho texto, pero espero que resulte se utilidad; saludos :)
buen aporte ... yo creo que voy a irme por yamaha mas por un tema de probar otra cosa, ya que vengo del korg triton por mas de 15 anos casi y quiero otro timbre en ese rango de precio
Gracias por el comentario!👌🏻
Pues si tienes mucha razón. En sonidos sobretodo es cuestión de gustos. Eso siempre lo suelo repetir.
Gracias por el comentario! Te puedo hacer una pregunta ya que tuviste ambos? Yo tuve un korg x50 y resultó ser un muy buen sinte pero con muchos problemas técnicos (se me rompió 4 veces) y quería comprarme el kross 2 pero tengo miedo de volver a tener los problemas q tenía con mi anterior korg, además de que para el nivel de sonido y posibilidades que tiene su precio es muy barato lo cual me produce un poco de desconfianza...qué opinás? El MX es considerablemente más caro, al menos en argentina...
@@diegofernandezmardaraz4155 ¿qué tal Diego?, sí mira; la verdad es que el MX es más caro que el KROSS, aunque yo lo conseguí de oportunidad, me lo cambiaron por el KROSS. Debo decir que a veces extraño la interfaz de navegación y edición con la que cuenta el KROSS, y algunas gamas de sonido como los pianos eléctricos FM; además de que puedes utilizar el sintetizador como interface/interfaz de audio para ponerle un micrófono, mientras que el MX no cuenta con esta posibilidad pero tiene buen motor de edición de sonidos (al menos para lo que me interesa) aunque es más sencilla que la del KROSS. Bueno, ahora sí al grano; la verdad el MX se siente mucho mejor construido que el KROSS (aunque por una extraña razón el tacto de las teclas me gustó más en este), este se siente muy frágil, de modo que a la primera que se te caiga va a sufrir daños significativos, aunque la ventaja es que es muy ligero, práctico y portátil. Mientras le consigas una buena funda o estuche y dependiendo también qué tan cuidadoso seas con tus instrumentos (sin el afán de ofender, pero es que si hay gente muy tosca) todo bien, te debe durar. Respecto al MX en este ámbito creo que queda un poco más resuelto, es un poco más pesado (muy poca diferencia) y se siente mejor construido como dije antes, la ventaja que tiene este equipo es que puedes utilizar la aplicación FM Essential (siempre y cuando tengas un dispositivo Apple) que te da más posibilidades de control sobre los sonidos que trae la app. Si consigues el MX cuida que sea la versión 2 para que puedas usar FM Essential. Vas a diferenciar la versión 1 de la 2, porque la 1 tiene letras color vino/guinda (no estoy muy seguro que color sea, pero más o menos), mientras que la versión 2 tiene letras color naranja.
Por lo demás, recuerda que todo es cuestión de gustos y necesidades y el tipo de música que toques; yo por ejemplo, opté mejor por el MX porque toco música cristiana, y para los sonidos que trae me parece mejor opción.
Ya se que es mucho texto jaja, pero prefiero dar respuestas completas que puedan resolver otras dudas que surjan. Saludos desde México :)
Korg Kross 2 for the synth layers & strings...Yamaha Mx for the acoustic instruments especially ac pianos...it all have to do with one's personal taste & preference....2 awesome sounding keyboards...a win win!!!
Blimey they are both cracking for the price. What a time to be a keyboard player.
I do love Korg and I love Roland but Yamaha is still my favorite and holds a place in my heart.
Play korg ek 50 once. The piano sound will touch your soul. Its better than yamaha and even better than korg pa series.
The reverb that comes by default on Yamaha sounds is as always is overwhelming.
@Ronan Johnny -_-
when it come to mix that reverb is just makes extra work and you don't want that
@@g-funktion1235 you can simply set the reverb amount on 0 ;)
I'm so glad I found this video! I was nearly set on MX61, but after hearing the strings and other non-piano sounds Kross, I can't go back.
You could argue that the MX61 has slightly better? acoustic sounds but I think the Kross would cut through much better in a mix. In the end the choice is what you think suits your needs. They are both great at this price point!
I've worked in a music store selling all varieties of synthesiser to portable keyboards, workstations. Etc. From my personal experience yamaha does have rich acoustic sounds. Like guitar and some woodwind instruments like soprano sexaphone. But it's string , bass and drums aren't really as good as Korg. If you compare them both in person with good sound system you will find that korg sounds richer even though it's sound engine is not as compatible to XG yamaha series like motif. One other thing is programing. You will find that the 16 track sequencing is much better then yamaha. Where by yamaha is limited. No matter how good their sound engine is.
Personally I'm still a fan of Korg, Roland, Alesys, and Hammond when it comes to sounds like the pipe organ and etc.
Excellent playing sir! Now this is how you do a comparison / demo video! I love em' both; will be hard to choose which one.
I LOVE YAMAHA, I GOT THE XS AND THE MOXF BUT THIS TIME I HAVE TO GO WITH THE KORG KROSS
I have both and like them both for different things. The Korg to me though is a better base keyboard instrument and the Yamaha excels at backup keyboard parts! I really like the Favorites and Set List options on the Korg which make it easy for me to switch to my favorite sounds quickly. However, being able to see 2 sounds at a time and switch to them and layer or split them on the Yamaha is also very handy for my background parts. I really love the Phat Korg Piano a lot after playing it in the band. I typically like to play the main keyboard sounds I use an octave lower than default so I had to save them all that way. Also I wish they didn't default all the sounds to have a drum kit and an arpeggiator on them so you have to turn them off---they should be additive features and not default, but you can save them how you want to.
Also yamaha goods for brass or other wind effects
Fantastic comparison! No blahblah, just the good stuff. I'm subscribed!
Lawren Lelko thx :)
Same here😎☝😁👍✌
I think at this level and price these keyboards are both pretty equal but on different aspects!
I'm about to replace a broken MX61, so I decided to try something different, since my last four live keyboards have been Yamahas. The Kross 2 was on my short list, but one show-stopping feature (or lack thereof) took it off for me: on an MX61, you can change a patch (or bring in a layer) while holding down the sustain pedal and the change won't hit until you lift your foot. This is great to have, since if, say, I want to add strings to a piano for the chorus, I don't have to hit the layer button exactly on the downbeat of the chorus--I can hit it a bit early, so that when the chorus hits, I can be playing keys with both hands, instead of pushing a button with one hand. The Kross 2 changes as soon as you touch the button, whether you're sustaining or not. I ended up ordering a Roland Juno DS61 for that reason.
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I am a Yamaha guy generally, but from this demo I prefer the Kross 2 over the MX for most of the sounds other than flute and Wurlitzer electric piano. I have played an MX before, and own a Motif XF8, so I do have some reference. However, UA-cam videos do not always show exactly how something will sound in person.
Can send the MX to me
Quem prefere o som do yamaha da um like girizada!
esses presets sao de fabrica?
Qui ling e issa
Som potencia
Os pianos da Yamaha costumam ser melhores mesmo.
@@luisarthur9229I'm sure they are for a comparison it only makes sense😊
In my opinion, if you are a studio musician, then Kross would suit your style of use. But if you are a stage musician, then MX61 would suit you more.
Just opposite
@@redlines2535 Can you please explain why?
@@tonylancer7367 mx it just not an arrenger
Exact opposite
What if you are both?
Só quem tem um Korg Kross 2 sabe o que é um workstation prático e Robusto. Já toquei em Mx61 por um longo período mas quando comecei a usar o korg kross 2 me identifiquei com ele pela praticidade e qualidade impressionante que ele tem. Cada qual tem seu gosto, o meu foi o korg kross 2 e me surpreendo cada dia mais com ele.
Olá , Marcos o que acha do korg kross 1
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@@ValentinaR233 Mano nunca cheguei a usar o Kross 1. o James Freitas usa um e pelo o que ele faz com este teclado é surpreendente
Respeito muito as duas marcas e os modelos ,são grandes marcas...mais na minha opinião o mx superou em vários sons
inclusive o piano...o timbre do piano do mx e perfeito , sempre procurando tirar o timbre mais próximo do piano de cauda. já o korg parece ter um som de piano mais artificial...mas como disse é minha opinião ,gosto é gosto kkkk
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🎹 da Yamaha mx 61 são melhores mesmo
Yamaha MX, for most instruments sounds better, (especially piano) and has a better keyboard but you can't record your songs in it like on the Kross.
me falaram que os timbres da yamaha são um dos melhores, e realmente to vendo isso a cada video comparativo
EPs are always just subjective in my opinion. If the sound is pleasant and fits the song then who cares if it sounds exactly like the original? The dynamics and how well velocity switching is handled is more important and this wasn't really tested here. I'd give the edge to the MX61 on those criteria though.
Thanks so much for this demo/comparison. It's really helpful to me. In my opinion, the piano & the strings sound better on the Kross 2 than the MX61. But the flute & the clavinet sound better on the MX61. In general, both sound good but I prefer the Kross 2. The Kross 2 looks really sleek with the curvy sides but the first & last keys are exposed (on the side) so you have to be careful while carrying this keyboard, otherwise those keys might break. Thanks again.
Oh yeah, I’m feeling´ya. Those Yamaha flutes are dope, bro.
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A cada video estou mais apaixonada pelo MX 61... quase pegando um
Very helpful as I am considering both of these. Disclaimer - I am a guitarist, playing keys is a third or fourth instrument at best and I play keys like a guitar player! I can clearly hear the differences, but it would have been helpful to me to know what patches were being compared, and to also hear some layers, although that would have made the video much longer, I realize! Coming at it as a guitarist, while some of the acoustic piano and even some of the EP sounds were maybe more "natural" on the Yamaha, I have to think that in a band situation that subtlety would not hold up. The Korg sounds like it would push the mix stronger. That might carry over to recording as well; maybe not. It also looked like the key action was a bit more natural on the Yamaha, but that was just observation and maybe not accurate.
Thanks again though, very helpful!
I love Yamaha, but the build quality wasn't there in my opinion on the MX. It sounds great, but feels cheap to me. I'm buying a Kross 2, unfortunately It's a blind purchase. No one around here has 1 I can play.
It's kinda hard to say which one's better, but I get the feeling the Korg's trying to represent instruments while the Yamaha is trying to represent the way older Yamaha synths and workstations failed to perfectly represent instruments which they're so loved and cherished for today.
A bit more situational than the Korg.
I own a Yamaha MOXF 61, & for me, Korg goes par with Yamaha, if not better. I am getting the Kross 2 soon
The strings and brass are better on Korg I think
One of my favorite flute layers on the Yamaha is the "Sweet Flute" and the "2 Flute" I give the Sweet Fluit more volume to be more pronounced. Then I add just a touch of chorus and the stereo field really opens up. Sounds fantastic.
Yep, that MX flute is gorgeous. I have the Korg too, wish the flute was better on it, great vibraphone, though. Probably doesn't matter to most folks, but I play flute and was amazed by the MX flute.
Korg won the visuals, all strings and synth.
Yamaha won the all piano tone..
Both are preferable🎉
Here's a result :
Piano = Yamaha
Piano + String = Korg
Clavinet = Korg
Organ = Korg
Violin/Cello = Yamaha
Strings = Yamaha
Electric Piano 1 = Yamaha
Wurlyzer = Korg
Steel Guitar = Yamaha
Flute = Yamaha
Synth = Yamaha
"Synth = Yamaha"
lol no
ua-cam.com/video/2QRn9cuutWo/v-deo.html
Brass ???
@@Akhmet_abdulla Juno
Piano is better in Yamaha but layer piano and strings is better in Korg
So, wich one it's better for beat making and music production?
Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Korg will be better
NO NO NO. yamaha piano is shiet. decay sounds soooo synthetic, she sound like decays and then at some point freezes for EVER... its like 100% deal breaker. You can hear it here. At first it feels like minor prblm, but when you notice it, thats for ever
No...strings better Yamaha too
Piano on any budget synth is going to be lacking in some way. I guess they don't want the piano sounds to compete with their actual digital pianos.
Muito bom os dois mas achei os pianos acústicos do mx61 mais bonitos já os timbres de clavi net do k2 achei mais fortes os órgãos da korg são mais agressivos mas o do Yamaha mais harmônicos as cordas deu empate td isso ao meu ver claro
To achando que editaram o piano do MX61.
Estenderam a ressonância.
Mas pode editado msm, ainda mais pq eles criaram um software exclusivo p linha mx 49 e 61 que é o vycro, com disposição para download grátis: vycromx.com/download/win/
Fico com kross
Queria saber qual melhor custo benefício entre Xps 30 e korg kross 2 ?
Grande mestre Carlinhos...
Both are good but Korg has more full-body. Korg is like you are right up close to the instrument while the Yamaha has some room and space as if you were sitting further away from the instrument, whether it be a piano, or strings, or whatever.
Brother, the sound of the Kross seems to be more "chubby" ... but the Mx excels and much in quality (my opinion) although it seems a little less "chubby" ... (nothing a good edition does not solve, compressor, Eq, etc.) Congratulations on the video and everyone else !! I follow your channel to times, and for me is the best when it comes to demonstration of instruments and equipment.
Os dois teclados são feras, mas ainda vejo que o YAMAHA é superior
I have used both extensively, being into ultra-lightweight keyboards that promise good quality sound.
I play the MX a lot, and I've loaned the Kross (1, not 2, I admit, but I think the sounds are the same?) to a friend.
The Kross' plusses are a) You can make more detailed Combi's with a greater number of different parts, on the synth itself. b) the sounds kind of jump out at you. (but that is a negative too, they can start sounding artificial at times.) The Yamaha has a better feeling keyboard to me, the Korg's being very springy - but you do get used to it, although you have to kind of 'pretend' you're playing a real keyboard, it does work after you get used to it. But on the other hand, the Yamaha can sound organ-like when you are in a band context. This is good for its ability to 'fill in' a band's sound, but the Korg has a different kind of more useful midrange dynamic. I was constantly making up new EP and Organ sounds thru editing on the Kross, not because you can, which IS a nice feature, but because the ones they provide, and the ones you can tweak them into, aren't quite satisfying. The Yamaha MX's EP's are really fantastic, as are some of their organ patches.
That's why the Yamaha MX(49) is right here next to me, and the Kross is at a friend's place. I pick it up right before the holiday season, because with its (the Kross') superior "Multi' ability, I've programmed a bunch of Combi's in it that i use in Holidelic, a wild inclusive xmas funk band. To be fair, I did do one or two great local gigs on just the Kross 61 and a Hammond SK-1, that covered all the bases, and fooled everyone, hah!
PS: on this very fine and useful muzykuj video, it sounds to me like, though both are excellent piano patches, the Korg Kross has a lot of well distributed transient info, but it decays too quickly for my taste.
Great descriptions. I too have used both Korg and Yamaha. It's so true that the Korg sounds jump out at you and I found that good for creating but not always so good while playing in a band. Sometimes you need to sounds to ease in and fill in the sound, not jump out of nowhere so abruptly. Better dynamics on the Yamaha too, as you said.
Thanks
I just got the mx49. The sounds are great, I can’t figure out how to save patches for live use. Any suggestion? Thanks!
@@peterdvideos i just bought MX88, and still not expertize using it. But I guess you will need an external USB memory stick.
Outra diferença e que
o yamaha mx 61 e um sinthetizador
O korg kross e um workstation
Sim, mas o Workstations também são sintetizadores só que com sequênciadores interno!
@@victorevangelista5633 o kross 2 é o soa melhor no PA?
@@guilhermedantas3898 não sei, mas o MX61 some no PA, principalmente se na banda tem guitarra usando overdriver
I own the MX61 along with the Vycro MX software...its amazing
Can you create your own splits and layers with the Vycro software? I mean more than two patches...
@@CDK11 Fuck yeah...16 sounds and many layers and multiple splits..This keyboard was instantly better after I found this software
Cool comparison. Sounds like they're both winners. Just personal preferences to guide you.
I have the MX-49. Yamaha's always sound darker or duller. Good or bad? it is a preference thing I guess.
The Yamaha made me feel more emotion especially the pianos and we're more subtle and dark, very good in my opinion. Korg synth sounds are better though
I have the same impression
Korg for me since I play on a Korg M1. Peace everyone!
For me too.. M1, X3, X50 currently, kross 2 next... I love Korg!!
To rozumiem. Gratulacje za pomysł. Bardzo przydatne porównanie próbek - brzmień obu tych instrumentów
Będzie jeszcze Juno DS do kompletu :)
great demonstration both great synthesizer
I love my older Yamaha for the feel but have been using the K2 for over a year and find it to be easy to tweek. Both brands do a great job and cost less than a lot of their competitors.
Kross has better synth sounds, Yamaha better acoustic sounds as usual
Yes...always
yeah，as usual
Sums it up.
Ur right ✔
Where can I get a new or uses mx61 or a mx49 keyboard.. Help needed
I think I will buy the Kross 88 and the MX 49 to get the concert piano sound which I believe to be the best. It wont cost too much and I'll get the best of both worlds. ADD: After looking in detail the manuals for both models the Yamaha is very limited when it comes to modify the sounds. essentially you can change the attack, sustain, cutoff and resonance. There are LFOs to modulate the amplitude and pitch which for me is important if I want to be able to create my own sounds. Just for his reason, I would go for the Kross 2 or maybe consider the Juno DS from roland in about he same price range.
I’ll take the Korg but the new Mx series feels feel better for sure
I have a MX88. Same great sounds with a weighted feel 88 note keyboard that only weighs about 30#. Nice.
I have both now and selling the Kross and keeping the MX. The Kross has the midi and audio recorder advantage, but soundwise, except from Electric pianos and Synth sounds, (good on both boards, each in its own way), the MX beats the Kross on all other instruments.
I would say that Electric Bass, Acoustic Drums and Organs are the instruments where there is the bigger gap in quality, in favour of the MX.
The acoustic pianos are also more realistic on the MX
Please tell me honestly about cross key's mechanism.
I think its good to have both keyboards in a band, the MX61 for main and the Kross for support
Marc Chester Rivera agreeee
Marc Chester Rivera plus, a Roland keyboard.
So you have the “Big Three” keyboard in your setting on a stage.
Tive o mx61 a pouco tempo, também toquei no kross, achei o kross um pouco melhor e com mais peso sonoro.
Clenilson e o sobre o Krome da korg parece com o kross?
@@ValentinaR233 krome é melhor, tem mais recursos, compartilha a maioria dos timbres com o kross, mas são timbres melhores, especialmente os pianos.
Six in one, half a dozen in the other. Both have their strengths. Yamaha sounded slightly better to me with piano, Korg's strings were better...it alternated back and forth for the most part. If I had to pick a winner on sound alone overall, a very slight edge to Yamaha. However, Korg has a pretty cool sampler with pads. I'm guessing the Yamaha does too? I did see what appear to be sample pads. Don't think you can go wrong either way.
I have the MX88 piano action keyboard...and the MX49 that i use for soloing and additional layers.
Independente da qualidade dos instrumentos músicas consigo ver mais potência e qualidade no Korg kross do que no Yamaha.
🙌🏻
No piano eu sou mais o mx61 , mas os sons de strings do korg são muito superiores
honestly these two would complement each other nicely....what doesnt sound nice in kross sounds better in yamaha and vice versa
Sometimes I like the Yamaha better sometimes the Korg.
Great comparison though, thanks.
It's like the SNES v Megadrive Question, this is the best comparison video. I bought the KORG after this video but there's very little difference in sound capabilities. I just love the KORG old school synth sounds. I would love to try the Juno tho!
Please, tell me more about key's mechanism
@@thepeller210 lol, same here, but the keys are definitely better on the Juno, I think
OK, a question for gigging musicians: which one of these, or perhaps a closely matched and priced competitor (DS61?) would prove to be most useful on stage? I think I would be happy with the sound of either one; what about play-ability, changing bank/registers, on the fly adjustments, splits and layers and switching thereof, etc. Thanks for any useful info anyone can provide!
Oh, and can I run my bass guitar through any of them? On several songs I swap back and forth, using the Right split and output for keys bass. Tone and volume I can match really well with my Casio, each going to the amp separately, but it would be nice to take both through the same effects chain.
oi amigo, muito bom o vídeo!
Gostei de ambos, mas achei melhor o Kross! vou comprar um.
Os teclados Korg ao vivo tem "punch" excelente. já tive um M50 e nossa...que som no PA.
por outro lado tive algumas decepções com Roland e Yamaha no quesito ao vivo. No fone o som parece ótimo mas ao vivo....claro que não me refiro aos tops das marcas.
Exatamente! Acabei de testar um xps30 (mesmo nível do kross 2 e mx61) e vendo no UA-cam com fone, o som deles eram uma maravilha, mas no PA! Decepciona (pelo menos o xps30), não testei o mx61 nem o kross2, mas dizem que o kross é o que soa melhor no PA .
I have a MX49 but I'm considering switching to a Kross 2 because of the Mellotron Samples which are an important addition for me.
Don't
@@darwellmamuyac3763 Too late :D
lol
Kross2 is a real hero. Where it generates a authentic sound.
You should do a comparison with Yamaha Mx61 vs Modx 61.
My friend, I've tested the modx and I felt really disappointed. It sounds with no more punch than MX. It doesn't mean modx is bad, but it means that there's no sense to buy more for the Modx
The MODX is FM synthesis. Is the MX61? I don't think so.
MODX is infinitely superior. No comparison.
@@italo_spotter bro, i has 4 keys nord electro 6d, korg tr, mx and modx i love modx becoz it is similar to montage and superior sound quality... For stage purpose and for recording i definitely take modx and tr with me... Modx is superior workstation...
hmm sometimes the cut off on the korg is quicker so you get a sense it is more real but the Yamaha is amazing i want one
Korg always and forever✌🎹
That Kross sounds Amazing
1:47 i feel it... Never give up 😁
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they ALL sound great in the vids. a great pa helps you can bet. where they fall down is in the middle register when playing chords.
The Kross is warmer, but I like the larger range of frequencies that I'm hearing on the mx. It's easier to subtract freqs with an eq than to add them in later.
The problem with Yamaha is they put reverb by default on just about everything. And you think it sounds better until you sample the dry wave. I have both boards. Korg doesn't drown every sound out in reverb. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. But The MX61 and it's big brother are not the same. I have that one too.
I'm torn between the two. Can you please tell me more?
Comes down to features. Sounds are all personal preference. If you listen to the Korg Kronos and MX...huge difference. Also, in price. However, these two are very similar in sound and it comes down to one's personal taste. The features on the MX are superior to me than the Kross. I used both in the store with DAW and the MX is more easy friendly. However, I do wish that the MX had a pad. Also, you save a little more money on the MX.
Las cuerdas del yamaha están en mono mientras que las de korg están en stereo, o tal vez sea un efecto de reverb.
The MX has a slight edge over the Acoustic Sounds
Kross is better when it comes to the Synth section.
Download the Oasys piano for Kross.
I got yamaha mx hoping for this great piano sound, but there is occasions that something very synthetic sticks out. Mostly the problem is with sustained sound, just pure digital synthesis. I was hoping it to replace my dinosaur M3, but not this time.
Same problem with my psr e 463 yamaha,sometimes while playing the piano voice with sustain,one or two notes in apassage would play out piano harmonic ,which is thin sounding like guitar harmonic
Roland and korg is best in piano. Yamaha is good in synts. And
Eletric piano
The top is basically a motif and the bottom seems to slightly upgraded with the piano sound. Korg is surprisingly good but it is being compared to a motif basically
Yamaha is better in changing sounds without cut but quality of sounds in Korg is best. Piano sounds in played in Korg is just for entry to learn editing sounds. There are so many pianos including Bollywood pianos Yamaha will have to take years to make such sounds.
Thanks... Yamaha is the winner to my ears seems warmer and more natural
I have a Korg Kross 2, but I would like to know which is better in terms of electric guitars?
Estou justamente tentando escolher entre Korg Kross 2 e o MX 61..... alguém pode me ajudar?
Please make Yamaha Genos Vs Korg PA4X vs Ketron SD9!
Good idea!
FERNANDO why not?
No match Genos easy wins.
I just sold my Korg Krome 61 and got the MX61...Korg was better ant phat synth but the MX blows it away in the Piano and EP category. And with the Vycro MX software ..you can do amazing, thick layered textures and splits
Korg sem dúvidas, mais pegado timbre
Thank you! Now I know what kind of synthesizer I need! Yamaha MX61!!!
#1- in a band context, you are lucky to even be in the mix so the better piano or sounds dont matter when they are this close.
#2- if you just set it and forget it one synth might sound better than the other but I'll change patches many times even in a song. Korg offers 8 banks of 16 pads so you can have your favorite combinations and programs easily available.
Good luck being heard after the guitars come in and the deaf sound man is texting his boyfriend. . .
which one has better keys?
Se vc conprar um mx 61 vc estara conprando um sinth bonito e que nao deicha a desejar dos grandes ele tem dons derivados do motif quem conhece motif sabe o q estou falando
Se vc conprar o kross vc vai ser muito feliz mas de 1000 sons de qualidade
A tu opinión cual tiene mejor sonido el korg o el yamaha ya que estoy interesado en uno de estos equipos
Which is better? Yamaha motif 6 or yamaha mx61? Thanks
Really can't give it a fair comparison because with the oscillator both keyboards can be tweak to sound the same. This is the power of midi synthesis if you know what you're doing.
nah, MX can't compete in synth sounds, Kross can't compete in piano, no amount of tweaking will change this, among many other things
The MX piano has got the metal string click sound. It's more realistic. Kross is more studio warm piano sound.
can say before watching the vid: yamaha dissapointed me, now lookin to get the Kross 2... Good idea?
way better machine, so long as acoustic piano isn't a priority
Yamaha piano sounds wins coz they are a major piano maker and has placing in all concert piano and one of the best piano sounding
Qual teclado seria melhor para eventos formais:
Mx 61 da yamahaa ou xps 30 da roland?
XPS30
De longe XPS-30
O MX61 concorre com o XPS-10 e o antigo Korg Kross 1 (mesmo a linha Kross sendo workstation)
O bom do Yamaha MX61 é que ele é bem mais programado do que o XPS 30.
Korg kross 2, Yamaha MX61 ou Roland XPS 30?
Kross 2 o melhor
Por pouca coisa o Korg Kross 2, mas o Juno DS é melhor que o korg Kross 2.
Cual de los dos tiene más almacenamiento de Memoria para samples el mx61 o kross 2
Going with the Korg!
Is it just me or Yamaha has like a MUCH wider stereo image?? It almost looks like the Korg is in mono...
Yes!!
Korg Kross 2 quite often getting bashed in reviews. The truth is the opposite...way underrated instrument.
to compare kross has more weight punch sounds. for my perspective.however x61 has brighter sounds. for budget get x61. to play sequence as work station at home. just my humble opinion. no offence means.