Spartan Rules For Life - The Philosophy of Sparta

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  • The Spartans have been referenced time and time again as a nation of hardened, resilient and Stoic warriors, with a simple philosophy of life.
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    These quotes help to explain the Spartan philosophy and the mindset of Sparta, a mindset that helps us remain calm, collected and resilient in the face of hardship, adversity, and events that threaten to invade our peace of mind.
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  • @gimme5476
    @gimme5476 2 роки тому +1922

    It’s amazing that the Spartans, a war breed in its purest form, actually gave very profound advice on ruling with compassion and sympathy: “Rule over your people as fathers rule over their sons”… “We will be impenetrable as long as none of you consider yourself more important than others…” A reason why the modern politicians all fxxk up

    • @br0l0g
      @br0l0g 2 роки тому +89

      If you actually read about history, most war breeds were very philosophical in many cultures

    • @comandantethorn9929
      @comandantethorn9929 Рік тому +57

      it probably has to do with morale, you have to create a really specific kind of society and push very specific values to make war-ing constantly like actually be feasable, like if they hadnt built their entire culture around it, if kids werent instilled with these ideas of honor glory valor courage comradery and on and on then their society wouldve died much quicker, their whole society was tough, the idea that your MOM of all people would tell you something like "Come back with your shield or come back on it", its basically a threat, because if you come back alive without your shield, for one you will never be seen with respect again, youre no longer a spartan and your mother will most likely disown you, its brutal.

    • @juusopollari8858
      @juusopollari8858 Рік тому +29

      @@comandantethorn9929 It is brutal in one perspective, totally. But if you want to really really extreme expression of some value, it has to be like that. And if one has innerstood that one is spiritual being and death is not the ultimate bad thing, it might help understand the more caring side of the idea too. And that kind of extremes also makes men to value their womens to the extreme.

    • @comandantethorn9929
      @comandantethorn9929 Рік тому +7

      @@juusopollari8858 i mean yeah but its brutal either way, it works in their society because everything in their society is build like that, in the here and now saying something like that is kinda emotional abuse- like you cant threaten your child with disowning them for something as difficult to define as "honor" or "glory"

    • @juusopollari8858
      @juusopollari8858 Рік тому +11

      @@comandantethorn9929 Yea, and much of The wisdom in this video is 100% applicable in their culture and lifestyle. But they are very good guidlines, for anyone looking to practice discipline.

  • @cryabout.it.
    @cryabout.it. 2 роки тому +910

    “Come and take them” hardest line you could possibly say in that situation. 💯

  • @jessicamiller9970
    @jessicamiller9970 2 роки тому +813

    Failure is not the enemy, quitting is!
    -Dallas

  • @rubenmelendez1499
    @rubenmelendez1499 2 роки тому +4030

    Spartan opens up his lunchbox and the note inside says, "Come back with your shield or come back on it" Love Mom

    • @dravenocklost4253
      @dravenocklost4253 2 роки тому +161

      It's stale bread with 1 slice of cheese on it. That's it.

    • @lora7529
      @lora7529 2 роки тому +13

      Yeah

    • @flavourruling2162
      @flavourruling2162 2 роки тому +42

      Some stale crackers. My favourite! Thank you for the adversity, Mom, I’ll never forget what you’ve done for me ❤️

    • @desculvscalf
      @desculvscalf 2 роки тому +17

      More accurately “Love the state of Sparta”

    • @muhammeddarboe8207
      @muhammeddarboe8207 2 роки тому +3

      @@lora7529 v

  • @mixedtwice1012
    @mixedtwice1012 2 роки тому +2098

    When you fall down you don't think of getting up you just get up

    • @sydneyhunter2807
      @sydneyhunter2807 2 роки тому +12

      And this is why the other nations want us dead so bad secretly....
      But sorry not sorry when I have kids my next generation will have captured all of you
      🇺🇲

    • @MrGuitarTormentor
      @MrGuitarTormentor 2 роки тому +33

      @@sydneyhunter2807 You have a terribly inflated sense of self-importance. Nobody cares, your kind is just loud. Like a child having a temper tantrum.

    • @Synpathetix
      @Synpathetix 2 роки тому +29

      @@MrGuitarTormentor that’s America in a nutshell. A bunch of people with Egos bigger than the land itself thinking they’re above everyone else and act like they’re royalty. America is a laughing stock really

    • @bubbles9201
      @bubbles9201 2 роки тому +3

      I am the 200 mark. I will make it a burdon to teach this to 200 people.

    • @sydneyhunter2807
      @sydneyhunter2807 2 роки тому +3

      @@MrGuitarTormentor no we just don't give to f when it comes to killing one another
      Why do you think we're number 1 for a reason and everyone knows that reason
      Hell I don't like it but I have to live up to it
      Or we'll all die

  • @matejpfajfar8039
    @matejpfajfar8039 2 роки тому +653

    I like their attitude of "if we can't defeat them, we will at least give them hell before we die".

    • @royalpitamamma
      @royalpitamamma 2 роки тому

      Bring them to hell with you warrior!

    • @almightydummy
      @almightydummy Рік тому +10

      Spartans during Battle of Leuctra: nah... we dipping...
      Spartans lost and ran away like a bunch of cowards.

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 Рік тому +14

      @@almightydummy by then they had become decadent from years of being the hegemonic power in Greece.
      They allowed themselves to become weakened and thus they fled at Leuctra.

    • @davidwilks4123
      @davidwilks4123 Рік тому +1

      What a terrible way to live. We are so much more enlightened nowadays. Cringe.

    • @joesmith5533
      @joesmith5533 Рік тому +17

      @@davidwilks4123 yea soooo much more Enlightened lol ppl can’t even go a day without social media and are slaves to food and their emotions nowadays how is it that life is so easy and we are so much more enlightened but ppl keep crying about being empty and feeling sad and killing themselves. No matter the advancements, us humans are going backwards and are doing too much

  • @obabas80
    @obabas80 Рік тому +821

    “The Spartan warrior never asks how many of the enemy there are, but only asks where they are”

    • @ziarbi3497
      @ziarbi3497 Рік тому +15

      Cold

    • @retroliftsprs
      @retroliftsprs Рік тому +12

      It would be dishonorable to not even attempt to fight for the safety and freedom of your people. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

    • @isthatyougordon7719
      @isthatyougordon7719 Рік тому

      @@retroliftsprs or , and think about this one, get off your knees and not die ? Can’t protect shit when you’re dead

    • @robdykejr
      @robdykejr Рік тому

      @@retroliftsprs :Or if you were an AA,you could just claim victimhood for generations & live off every other culture who have bypassed them by perseverance & free will.🤔

    • @retroliftsprs
      @retroliftsprs Рік тому +5

      @@robdykejr That sounds like a terrible existence. Why would I willingly take away everything that makes me a man and put my fate in the hands of someone else. Your thinking is why America and western society is falling. Encourage others to be strong. Not weak.

  • @timothysaari
    @timothysaari 2 роки тому +2434

    The requirements to become a Spartan Warrior:
    1. Tough as nails
    2. Crippling childhood
    3. Ability to develop harrowing comeback statements

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +95

      😂👍

    • @anonymous3174
      @anonymous3174 2 роки тому +25

      That's me. Number one is debatable I guess.

    • @Grom76300
      @Grom76300 2 роки тому +7

      2. You mean "mollested as child." Because... that's what happened, so much that they had to implement a law for the men to do that with their wife instead of the young boys.

    • @faamanatugalelea2415
      @faamanatugalelea2415 2 роки тому +27

      Don't forget the will of insanity.

    • @timothysaari
      @timothysaari 2 роки тому +21

      @@faamanatugalelea2415 I think insanity was a byproduct of their upbringing.

  • @codydecoster9131
    @codydecoster9131 2 роки тому +278

    "Come back you coward that I may kill you twice." A Spartan warrior upon seeing a ghost.

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +12

      🙌

    • @CHRF-55457
      @CHRF-55457 2 роки тому +5

      lol

    • @chuckjay
      @chuckjay 11 місяців тому +1

      Cowardice is worse than death. The warrior lives by one creed. Death before dishonor.

  • @estoicismobr4954
    @estoicismobr4954 2 роки тому +161

    "In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity." Great quote for this time.

    • @davidwilks4123
      @davidwilks4123 Рік тому

      What a terrible way to live. We are so much more enlightened nowadays. Cringe.

    • @allornothing432
      @allornothing432 Рік тому

      “You say that as if you were the first man to think it! Yes, a crisis is an opportunity. What other brilliant insights have you brought me today?”
      “……………..”

  • @thassilokilian905
    @thassilokilian905 2 роки тому +660

    Let me add:
    "Don't be sorry, be better! "
    Just a fictional spartan but I still like this quote.

  • @zackfrm330
    @zackfrm330 2 роки тому +426

    Spartans are the best, they just replied with "IF" lmaooo savage asf!!!

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +7

    • @LostLagrange
      @LostLagrange 2 роки тому +17

      It was both a challenge and a warning. Sparta most definitely would have joined that fight.

    • @SystemOfStrategy
      @SystemOfStrategy 2 роки тому +10

      Hence the word Laconic when referring to succinct replies, no wasted words.

    • @coochykilla
      @coochykilla 2 роки тому +8

      And Phillip chose not to invade Sparta

    • @spikem5950
      @spikem5950 2 роки тому +11

      Supposedly he wrote to them again, asking if they would rather he come to Sparta as an ally or enemy. They replied with "Neither"

  • @k.vlasis3336
    @k.vlasis3336 2 роки тому +455

    Dear friends, just a small observation - correction if allowed. The answer of Leonida king of Sparta at Xerxes king of Persian Empire in Thermopylae was in fact "MOLON LAVE" (in hellenic grammar "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ"). The exact meaning of these words in Hellenic (Greek) language is not only "Come and take them" but "Come and take them if you dare"!!! Thank you.

    • @etnoscope3966
      @etnoscope3966 Рік тому +16

      After some research, i found out it actually means" Try hard/Work hard to get them" , not just "Come" as we say.

    • @matthaios9143
      @matthaios9143 Рік тому +5

      @@etnoscope3966 when you speak Greek, we'll debate it.

    • @indra_vrtrahan
      @indra_vrtrahan Рік тому +2

      Hence transliterating to "Come And Get It"

    • @senvilla3302
      @senvilla3302 Рік тому

      Less laconic but perhaps more accurate.

    • @MsBrooklyn62
      @MsBrooklyn62 Рік тому

      Leonidas-sp

  • @steve.o33
    @steve.o33 2 роки тому +255

    "If" is the most powerful word to a man, if, can change anything and everything. If it happens, it happen, if it does not, it doesnt.

    • @godinminaar9024
      @godinminaar9024 2 роки тому +2

      True

    • @Jamplays592
      @Jamplays592 2 роки тому +2

      ( They never invaded Sparta. )

    • @thodan467
      @thodan467 2 роки тому

      @@Jamplays592
      they wasted not even the time to answer those jesters

    • @solidsnake3man
      @solidsnake3man 2 роки тому

      Who knew Steve O became a philosopher after Jackass?

    • @TheGhostOperative
      @TheGhostOperative 2 роки тому +3

      shortest way to express uncertainty. two alphabets, one syllable and it represents the collective of infinite possibilities. a fcking genius conjured that word.

  • @LostLagrange
    @LostLagrange 2 роки тому +971

    “As a Spartan, return with your shield, or on it, But never without it.”
    To return with your shield was to be victorious in life. To return on your shield was to be victorious in death. But to return without your shield meant you lost the battle but were still alive. This was often assumed to mean that they were cowards who lost their shields and fled from combat to save their own lives. Such men are not worthy to call themselves Spartans and will never be considered or respected as such again. And so to the woman of Sparta, they have lost their sons as no true son of Sparta would return without their shield from a victorious battlefield.

    • @isaacmonson4403
      @isaacmonson4403 2 роки тому +9

      Aaahh i see thank you for sharing this. I was wondering what it meant

    • @gantzllat
      @gantzllat 2 роки тому +64

      @@isaacmonson4403 they could still lose and retreat, but dropping your shield mean you ran in panic abandoning formation. As stated in another quote, you can drop your helmet and breastplate. Those where meant to your own protection, and are not a shameful lost in retreat. Abandoning your shield, meant to sacrifice the safety of the man besides you, just to run a little faster. Return with your shield, or on it.

    • @photofinish8607
      @photofinish8607 2 роки тому +8

      @rashid ibn Camel ibn Arab
      They were raised the right way.
      Unlike the corruption today.

    • @vicariouswitness
      @vicariouswitness 2 роки тому +7

      Every real soldier fights to lay his arms down in peace.. you need to fight for peace when your enemy is fighting against your peace.

    • @saltysaty8686
      @saltysaty8686 2 роки тому +12

      @@gantzllat exactly. Death is preferred to abandoning the protection of your brothers, death happens and your protection of your brothers come above all, because if you fail your brothers, the army fails, if the army fails Sparta fails and everyone dies.... Deserting your friends and brothers in their deepest struggle is unforgivable, it means you should never come home.

  • @firebolt100
    @firebolt100 2 роки тому +476

    I've been contemplating for some years now about why these 'ancient warrior' themes are so attractive to so many of us in contemporary times.
    Aside from the horrific realities that inevitably took place, my strongest hypothesis is that we experience a kind of kinship inside these stories. These communities seem intimate when compared to modern times. In today's urban life we see countless faces on a daily basis, but most of us wouldn't take a bullet for them. I'm not suggesting that nobody would do heroic deeds; I'm saying that there's no comradery. I also think that comradery is as rare as wisdom, because it's not something you can just make.
    If I'm correct about the sense of comradery, kinship, and intimacy being what we crave from these stories, I can think of one scenario where those elements arose naturally. It would require the decay of modern powerful nations, the promotion of tribes, and the everlasting sense of danger. The bloodshed would harden those who witness it. The high frequency of death would likely make everyone more patient with those tribesmen who annoy us. The scarcity of resources, craftsmen, and strong warriors would be invaluable, therefore everyone *must* pull their weight.
    Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting that I want such a risky life. I'm merely speculating what the natural order of mankind may look like.

  • @nonameidonthavenoname.5281
    @nonameidonthavenoname.5281 2 роки тому +100

    I will not quit in the mist of struggle.. exactly.

  • @arkhaan7066
    @arkhaan7066 Рік тому +60

    "The walls of Sparta stand the height of a man" one of my favorite sayings about them

    • @arkhaan7066
      @arkhaan7066 8 місяців тому +1

      @@HorribleProgram-ew6ei yup

  • @yvonnemarshall7416
    @yvonnemarshall7416 2 роки тому +25

    Big Thank you I may be a woman ,But my spirit is that of a lion ,These wonderful words have helped me more than anyone will know to get off my knees and continue .
    Sending Strength love light to all who are need .Yvonne 🐎♥️🌏

    • @ozodari6160
      @ozodari6160 2 роки тому

      Let the strength of the Gods be your own

  • @jamesteegardner2273
    @jamesteegardner2273 2 роки тому +275

    "Should I come as friend or foe"?
    "Neither"!
    Still the best burn in the history of mankind.

    • @CHRF-55457
      @CHRF-55457 2 роки тому

      lol

    • @johnharris6691
      @johnharris6691 2 роки тому +1

      Come as you!

    • @pablotesticules
      @pablotesticules 2 роки тому +9

      *unnecessary long speech*
      "Too long a speech, we forgot what you want"
      *shows a bag * "The bag wants flour"
      "You needn't have said 'the bag', but we'll agree"

    • @justinshepard9352
      @justinshepard9352 Рік тому

      come naked would be better.....

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Рік тому

      Source?

  • @Dontdothat5300
    @Dontdothat5300 2 роки тому +115

    I came and listened again. My favorite part is actually the old Spartan lecturing the other Grecian that they knew the right thing to do, but didn’t do it. I see this around me every day. People unwilling to give up a seat for women, the elderly, or the infirm. My old man would’ve smacked me, and I would do the same to my kids. Show respect.
    Thanks again - liked, shared, and subscribed.

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +4

      🙏 thanks man, good to have you on the channel

    • @julianc7685
      @julianc7685 2 роки тому +14

      Treat a woman with such respect and you get disrespected in return

    • @julianc7685
      @julianc7685 2 роки тому +2

      @Darren us men aware of female nature is growing at an exponential rate. Makes me have some hope for the future.

    • @Dontdothat5300
      @Dontdothat5300 2 роки тому +5

      @@julianc7685 depends on the woman. Mine can’t stand weak men.

    • @williammak1132
      @williammak1132 2 роки тому +3

      They have their right to not give up their seat, and you have your right to give it up.

  • @brothermeleke
    @brothermeleke 2 роки тому +32

    "Come back either with your shield or on it" Cold words from the wise

  • @m-man1031
    @m-man1031 Рік тому +19

    As an Assyrian I love my Greek/Spartan brave brothers!! A true warriors recognizes another.
    Some empires would have still lived till this day if the cheating & back stabbing didn't exist but the history and soul & the blood line will always remain & live there forever.

  • @idfalnhouse
    @idfalnhouse 2 роки тому +22

    I wish the entire community a phenomenal day!

  • @yeshuaisthesonofmantheking4065
    @yeshuaisthesonofmantheking4065 2 роки тому +21

    Psalm 71:3-6, 16-17
    Be to me a rock of refuge, a strong fortress, to save me, for you are my rock and my fortress.
    Rescue me, O my God, from the hand of the wicked, from the grasp of the unjust and cruel man.
    For you, O Lord, are my hope, my trust, O LORD, from my youth.
    Upon you I have leaned from my birth; you are he who took me from my mother's womb. My praise is continually of you.
    With the mighty deeds of the Lord GOD I will come, I will praise your righteousness, yours alone.
    O God, from my youth you have taught me, and I still proclaim your wondrous deeds.💞💞

    • @117rebel
      @117rebel 2 роки тому +3

      AMEN!!!

    • @yeshuaisthesonofmantheking4065
      @yeshuaisthesonofmantheking4065 2 роки тому +4

      @Jarod Grave you cannot exist and die 🤷‍♂️allways remember jesus loves you he died for us all repent and give up on your sins. Have a blessed day 🙏❤

    • @yeshuaisthesonofmantheking4065
      @yeshuaisthesonofmantheking4065 2 роки тому +3

      @Jarod Grave If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
      Luke 11:13 KJV

    • @117rebel
      @117rebel 2 роки тому

      @Jarod Grave On judgement day you will regret denying Christ in your life.!

    • @NRG56
      @NRG56 2 роки тому +1

      @Jarod Grave why is it that atheists are always so smug and pretentious. If someone wants to believe in something, let them.

  • @keegan6298
    @keegan6298 Рік тому +14

    “Spartans what is your profession!” Send shivers up my spine

    • @Chase_baker_1996
      @Chase_baker_1996 Рік тому

      HOWU HOWU HOWU!!!!

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Рік тому

      We all know that's just Hollywood fluff, but it stands true that the same was for them, as is for many today that say they are this are that they are that, until someone comes along that PROVES that they are not only this an that, but that that they are because they BREATHE it everyday, and DIE for it!

    • @Arthur-Morgan_
      @Arthur-Morgan_ Рік тому

      @@Chase_baker_1996 “UwU UwU UwU!”

  • @ishmael_03
    @ishmael_03 2 роки тому +82

    This quote resonates with our modern geocentric times.
    "It was natural for [Spartan women] to think and speak as Gorgo, the wife of Leonidas, is said to have done, when some foreign lady, as it would seem, told her that the women of Lacedaemon were the only women of the world who could rule men; "with good reason," she said, "for we are the only women who bring forth men"
    Now, what I get from that quote is that Gorgo is telling the woman that Spartan women have the freedoms they have because they give birth to real men who aren't threatened by them.
    In the 300 film they had Gorgo tell this to a man instead of a woman because they wanted it to be directed towards men for feminist empowerment, but it was actually directed towards women because it is them who misunderstood how Spartan women move with their men: they know their role.

    • @comandantethorn9929
      @comandantethorn9929 Рік тому +2

      idk why but i love the "for we are the only women who bring forth men" part, its like basically saying "yeah men are fundamental for our society, but men aint shit without us"

    • @ishmael_03
      @ishmael_03 Рік тому +1

      @@comandantethorn9929 Yeah, and a lot of modern women think that way but what Gorgo was telling the Lacedaemon woman when she was bragging about how they rule over their men Gorgo replied: "with good reason," she said, "for we (Spartan women) are the only women who bring forth men"

    • @JorgoSimonidhi
      @JorgoSimonidhi Рік тому

      I believe she was actually saying "Your men are weak and lust driven, our men are willing to die for what they believe in." Which is essentially insulting both their men AND women because whose responsibility is it to give birth and raise men? Especially at the time? You guessed it!

  • @crunchie9362
    @crunchie9362 2 роки тому +163

    Enemy: You’re surrounded! Outnumbered! Out gunned! There is no hope for you to survive! Surrender!
    Spartans: *chuckling like drunk children*

    • @deafsmith1006
      @deafsmith1006 2 роки тому +4

      No... they say... "Nuts!" as was done at Bastogne.

    • @annaliselovespie
      @annaliselovespie 2 роки тому +18

      We're surrounded. We got them right where we want them boys

    • @deafsmith1006
      @deafsmith1006 2 роки тому +1

      @@annaliselovespie Chesty Puller!

    • @dirmusloner7963
      @dirmusloner7963 2 роки тому +10

      My ancestors (Spartans) have the mindset that when They are called to a battle they didnt say "How many are they" (referred to the enemy) but They say "Where are they" cause Spartan Law is "Never retreat, Never Surrender" which means even in a battle that death is near, you stand fight with the might you got and say "You might kill me but I will drag you all down with me"
      That mindset is given to them by the Agoge (Spartans education program)
      It is written that ONLY THE HARD ONLY THE STRONG can call themselves Spartans

    • @royalpitamamma
      @royalpitamamma 2 роки тому

      More like...when aren't we...this is Friday night for us.

  • @hectorcarrasco3394
    @hectorcarrasco3394 2 роки тому +26

    I definitely Liked the " Then we Shall have our Battle... In the Shade "... Line...wow!!

  • @MrHaholos
    @MrHaholos 2 роки тому +18

    I am last generation of Greeks taught ancient Greek language x6 years , grew up in ancient Sparta playing at King Leonidas tomb with the other kids .This brings back memories I am very fond of .
    Ή τάν ή επί τάς

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Рік тому

      Here I am Here you are??

  • @LeviThoughts
    @LeviThoughts Рік тому +5

    that "if" just went through my spine

  • @jamesterry6032
    @jamesterry6032 2 роки тому +24

    wisdom is a result of suffering and not falling before or for its evil .great stuff!!

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Рік тому

      Where is that from?

    • @chuckjay
      @chuckjay 11 місяців тому

      Death before dishonor.

  • @ExodaCrown
    @ExodaCrown Рік тому +21

    I remember watching a video a while back, but the apparently the actual context about the arrows will block out the sun. It didn't come as a threat, one of the Spartans was telling a general about how the Persian army is so massive that their arrows would block out the sun. The general replied was thanking the soldier for the good news that he could let his men know instead of fighting in the hot sun they get to fight in the shade.

  • @MistaLiir
    @MistaLiir 2 роки тому +41

    "You come with the heads and crowns of conquered kings to my city steps, you insult my queen, you threaten my people with slavery and death.. ooh i've chosen my words carefully Persian.. perhaps you should have done the same"

    • @deafsmith1006
      @deafsmith1006 2 роки тому +8

      And what he said to the Persian (in reality) was, "You want earth and water? Go get them yourself" as he kicked him down the well!

    • @thodan467
      @thodan467 2 роки тому +1

      @@deafsmith1006
      Interesting he murdered diplomats, messengers which was as it is a dishonourable crime of the worst kind

    • @deafsmith1006
      @deafsmith1006 2 роки тому +4

      @@thodan467 You come and threaten my family with slavery and death (has his nation was done) and well.... that was the appropriate response. Back then it was common to send messages back via the heads of the messengers. "Come in peace, or leave in pieces."

    • @thodan467
      @thodan467 2 роки тому

      @@deafsmith1006
      No, they diskutiert absolutely Not, they jemandes the Navigation of the spartanisch state , Not the homoioi with Personal enslavement.
      It's Not that unlikely that for Mist or at least many spartans that could've brought Note Rights, Liberty and Freedom.
      The Murder of Ambassador s or Murder na their händ was frowned upon by the Law of man and gods

    • @deafsmith1006
      @deafsmith1006 2 роки тому

      @@thodan467 It may have been 'frowned upon' but the message was sent. Oh, and these 'Rights, Liberty, and Freedom', do they not 'frowned upon' enslavement and mass murder of a City State (Sparta)?
      After all that was the threat the ambassador sent to the King of Sparta, right? Well he got his answer.

  • @MasonicKryptonite
    @MasonicKryptonite 2 роки тому +13

    My favorite quote is actually from the correspondence before or after the famous "IF" reply.
    They received a letter along the lines of: "If we come to your city, would you rather we come as friends or as enemies?"
    The Spartans replied with: "Neither."

  • @deniselarsen2169
    @deniselarsen2169 2 роки тому +15

    Sometimes one has to walk away to do what is in their best interest
    Life is never easy but on has to keep moving forward even when one will be on their own.

  • @understandyourself-philoso6970
    @understandyourself-philoso6970 2 роки тому +91

    👉If you read this know that I Wish you the best for your future👍
    Be strong 💪 Don't let others disrespect you, Love yourself as you are , Don't try to be perfect ( no one is) but learn from your mistakes and Be positive my friend ❤ Have a nice Day

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +5

      🙏

    • @matttalks81mw
      @matttalks81mw 2 роки тому +4

      I may not know who you are that wrote this comment but I swear I needed it thank you who ever you may be

    • @understandyourself-philoso6970
      @understandyourself-philoso6970 2 роки тому +3

      @@matttalks81mw You're Welcome. If it helps at least one person, I'm happy :) Have a Nice Day

    • @ioracle8015
      @ioracle8015 2 роки тому +1

      ty i feel as though you were speaking to me though, really. From heart to heart i so needed to hear these words. Thank you! Love Light Universal Truth Shall Prevail 🗽🥲😘

    • @understandyourself-philoso6970
      @understandyourself-philoso6970 2 роки тому +1

      @@ioracle8015 Thanks for your feedback, I always believe in compassion and mutual aid, thats' what I promote with the quotes I share in my channel. Wish you the best for the future

  • @alekosimba
    @alekosimba Рік тому +10

    The come and take them (ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ) has a much deeper meaning in Ancient Greek language. It can be translated to "Find the courage and then come and take them". Really badass

    • @EpiphanyMindChange
      @EpiphanyMindChange 9 місяців тому

      Thank you for this

    • @alekosimba
      @alekosimba 9 місяців тому

      @@EpiphanyMindChange Everything really has a deeper meaning, if you can find some translations with comments it will change your view on a lot of mainstream things. Also, everything from Ancient Greece can be universal regardless of which country you're from, we can all learn from them and become better people. Take care

  • @pablomarcelmx
    @pablomarcelmx Рік тому +5

    “Living well is the best revenge” a noble Spartan

  • @user-fp8bm4ci3r
    @user-fp8bm4ci3r 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome thanks! Way way better than I expected. Saw it and clicked on a rec. whim and couldn’t stop listening. Well played 🤙🏼

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +1

      No worries, thanks for watching 🙏

    • @astevel560
      @astevel560 7 місяців тому

      ​@@OrionPhilosophysong name?

  • @Aaliyashi
    @Aaliyashi Рік тому +6

    I love how the Spartans were the original edge lords. Few today can rival the sass of those quotes, but I guess they actually had the prowess to back it up 😊

  • @maxx8942
    @maxx8942 Рік тому +4

    The Spartans a true brotherhood 💪

  • @JoeyBoi15
    @JoeyBoi15 Рік тому +1

    This video is incredible the background editing brings me life, more like this please!!

  • @iangutoskie2315
    @iangutoskie2315 2 роки тому +5

    Fantastic video! Thank you for putting this together.

  • @RoninSerradaEscrimadore
    @RoninSerradaEscrimadore 2 роки тому +378

    How come you guys never give credit to the musicians who make the background score for your videos? Some of the music is great and we'd like to have it, aside from giving proper respect where it's due.

    • @nursepower23
      @nursepower23 2 роки тому +11

      Song is awesome it hypes me up before the day starts

    • @david8305
      @david8305 2 роки тому +6

      Just check the description...

    • @josiah5942
      @josiah5942 2 роки тому +1

      respect man!

    • @mihaiarmy666
      @mihaiarmy666 2 роки тому +21

      @@david8305 It is not in description

    • @efthimios
      @efthimios 2 роки тому +3

      The music was amazing and fitting I agree too

  • @kristiqn9
    @kristiqn9 2 роки тому +5

    The best video. Thank you for creating it.

  • @EMKK222
    @EMKK222 10 місяців тому

    Oh boy! The background music is so motivating.. gives me goose bumps always when I listen to this video

  • @mvnn.y6315
    @mvnn.y6315 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome video man , been looking for something Spartan related for a while

  • @kennymilsom
    @kennymilsom 2 роки тому +8

    And in a moment of grief and rememberance,
    he stood back a looked.
    Like a newborn and for the first time,everything came out in the wash.
    All his hurts,all his mistakes and all his pain.
    There it was, laid out like a dinner platter.
    Like a lost trophy or an unwanted friend.
    Decisions neded to be made.

  • @Streetlocksmith
    @Streetlocksmith 2 роки тому +11

    The last one is real wisdom, and I use that one daily.

  • @cliffordkelleher0142
    @cliffordkelleher0142 Рік тому +1

    This is the greatest youtube video, it has helped me through the hardest times & reminded me of how I was raised. TY OP

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @Twtgod
      @Twtgod Рік тому

      ​@@OrionPhilosophy man what is the background music? Thank you

    • @chrising6909
      @chrising6909 Рік тому

      @@Twtgod he will not answer that for some reaso, even if 100s of people are asking

    • @Twtgod
      @Twtgod Рік тому

      @@chrising6909 why?

  • @djefardeur7958
    @djefardeur7958 Рік тому +3

    After reading all the quotes, my energy was over 9000 unity !

    • @MasteryOrder
      @MasteryOrder Рік тому +1

      If the subject of masculinity interests you, I invite you to use the resources on the Mastery Order Channel and challenge yourself with some ideas about manhood to become the kind of man you would look up to.
      We can only better ourselves together, as men among men, so I invite you to use what I share and, of course, share your own opinions so that others can benefit from them as well.
      Looking forward to your points of view.
      All the best to you!

  • @ciceromphilosophy8549
    @ciceromphilosophy8549 2 роки тому +3

    I listen this at least 10 times every day, not only that every thing from this man ...what a great voice.

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +1

      🙏

    • @ciceromphilosophy8549
      @ciceromphilosophy8549 2 роки тому

      I have studied a philosophy as well and thing’s that you’re sharing is like giving a water to my thirst soul.

    • @ciceromphilosophy8549
      @ciceromphilosophy8549 2 роки тому

      Philosophy is not for everyone, either you born with it or not, and there’s a thin line between knowledge and wisdom. I have been writing more than 100 quotes and it will be shared one day on UA-cam.

    • @ciceromphilosophy8549
      @ciceromphilosophy8549 2 роки тому

      I have a good voice as well, that’s what people tell me:) however you’re dancing at the top of mountain when it comes to to that. My favorite philosophy is Nietzsche and it took me years to understand such a mind. “In loneliness the lonely one eats himself; in crowds many eat him.” Now choose ??!?
      Nietzsche
      I also feel alone among 100 people, instead of being with them …I choose to be alone, in that my time doesn’t become stolen by masses.
      Great job from you and I share and recommend to people in Sweden. And I really wish that I had discovered your channel earlier.
      However I think the Universe didn’t give me this before, obviously I had to go through a few things before:)
      The nature never gives anything for free unfortunately.
      Thanks for beautiful quotes. What makes it so special that is: YOU 💖
      I listen to same quotes from a few others on UA-cam which was catastrophic.
      Again thanks 😊 brother because I don’t feel alone anymore at home, since you are talking to me.

  • @patrickkeefer8678
    @patrickkeefer8678 2 роки тому +25

    So ancient Spartans were wiser then the Modern governments when it came to money.

    • @boutiquebitcoin809
      @boutiquebitcoin809 Рік тому

      Some rich people are forming tiny Off grid home villages where money is not needed and fresh food is grown and water.

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you for sharing knowledge of true warriors my ancestors were. Salut from a warriors to all warriors out there

  • @TrulyYGB
    @TrulyYGB 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the video keep up the good work

  • @SarahMsHenry
    @SarahMsHenry 2 роки тому +48

    I love this so much, I was in a very dark place forgot who I am. I am a warrior goddess who does not know how to quit. Was at a point where I wanted to kill myself but instead I accessed the warrior inside me and fought. There are no problems simply challenges to overcome and improvement. This is awesome. 💪💪💪💪💖💖💖. All I do is get better don't ever give up fight and no matter how dark it is you will always come through.

    • @rowdyrager-9403
      @rowdyrager-9403 2 роки тому

      Yes!

    • @christophervargas1625
      @christophervargas1625 2 роки тому

      Same here I'm glad

    • @szlvid6
      @szlvid6 2 роки тому +1

      ‘The obstacle is the way’

    • @edwardcecere6968
      @edwardcecere6968 Рік тому +2

      Keep on fighting you are an inspiration to me 🥇🇺🇲

    • @sarahk.2381
      @sarahk.2381 Рік тому +1

      @@edwardcecere6968 absolutely will I have a pretty big challenge coming up and I am definitely scared but I am going to fight and stay in a Spartan mindset. Throwing myself into something where I have to swim or sink, fight or quit I choose the Spartan way. Keep fighting my friend nothing can stop you 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

  • @teufelshund3213
    @teufelshund3213 2 роки тому +7

    “with your shield, or on it”
    Semper Fi

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal Рік тому

      Taliban kicked your ess, even after yall backstabbed them.

  • @PhillipJodoin
    @PhillipJodoin 9 місяців тому

    Unbelievable grateful that's all I have to say.
    Thank-you

  • @robinwilliams4049
    @robinwilliams4049 Рік тому +1

    they paved the way. .. they thought as a kind, not one broken, but when words like radient was celebrated in direction... they spoke to the sun, and kept frisky abut how they settled their ways...

  • @powerbar1981
    @powerbar1981 2 роки тому +21

    Me : I see, the best of the best from Sparta and I did not know that.
    Other : But you learned so well about Spartan. From who?
    Me : The Ghost Of Sparta

  • @pallasathena7372
    @pallasathena7372 2 роки тому +34

    "It is not in our very nature to follow others into battle"
    Sparta never accepted to join a war without being the leader of the allied forces.

    • @kagato23
      @kagato23 Рік тому +2

      And they lost a lot of respect and friends from it.

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Рік тому

      @@kagato23 Maybe, but when SHTF, all those that DIDN'T Respect, UNANIMOUSLY AGREED that they would not go to war (as with the Persians) unless Lacedaemon (Sparta) was leading it.

    • @kagato23
      @kagato23 Рік тому

      @@MR-nl8xr then Alexander the Great did it anyway, and when he sent shit back to Athens said “all the Greeks EXCEPT SPARTANS” send these treasures home. Then the Persians hired the Spartans when he kept going against them. He kicked their ass, killed their king, and said “you won’t join? Better join now.” They joined. By this point since citizenship could only be inherited, the Spartans were massively outnumbered by their slaves. There wasn’t even a big rebellion so much as people just left and they didn’t have the numbers to make them get back in line. Turns out only being warriors means your fucked when the farmer just say “no.” Spartans were a failed model.

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Рік тому

      @@kagato23 You are talking about a different time than I am. 300 bc (the time of Alexander) was no longer the "real" Sparta, by then the Battle of Leuctra had already sealed the fate of Lacedaemon and introduced a new generation of Spartan soldiers that were not much like the "original" Lacedaemons (Spartans).
      Also I have no idea who you were saying did what after your first sentence, so, w/e.

    • @chuckjay
      @chuckjay 11 місяців тому

      It is cowardice to hide behind those who you do not know. Stand alone, and step forth into the abyss. Never look back, until the darkness submits to your will.

  • @vikingwarrior5962
    @vikingwarrior5962 Рік тому

    What words have been made for a speech of this excellence

  • @pjagan123
    @pjagan123 Рік тому +1

    Awesome really. Looking at it for the first time. These are tremendous life lessons.

  • @emeralddragon9119
    @emeralddragon9119 Рік тому +10

    "Come back with your shield, or come back on it."
    Thinking back on the incredible nobility Spartans had is amazing. Now that these are modern times, that will never happen due to the level of distrust in race, sex, religion, beliefs, etc. Hell, talking even divides people.
    Spartans would most likely be disappointed in us.

    • @nadz2135
      @nadz2135 Рік тому

      Gen Z 📉📉📉📉

    • @norwardradtke1361
      @norwardradtke1361 Рік тому

      We are them. You are your own ancestors. Just looking at my father and daughter we look so fucking alike it’s uncanny

    • @emeralddragon9119
      @emeralddragon9119 Рік тому

      @@norwardradtke1361 Looking alike is a drastically different reasoning than being them.

    • @norwardradtke1361
      @norwardradtke1361 Рік тому

      @@emeralddragon9119 that’s a matter of your own opinion emerald dragon. Nothing to do with others. Look up Atavism.

    • @emeralddragon9119
      @emeralddragon9119 Рік тому

      @@norwardradtke1361 I'm basing off fact. If you're using atavism as a response, it doesn't change the fact that the internet exist to share a mixed bundle of information and misinformation. Our ancestors, depending on the culture, wanted to grow and survive together. Today there is a lot of distrust nobody as a whole will agree on anything.

  • @juanosorno8153
    @juanosorno8153 Рік тому +5

    Great video, great music and great thinking by the Spartans

  • @WillowsCircles
    @WillowsCircles 2 роки тому +2

    This was Awesome 😎😎😎 Thank you!

  • @Jonny400
    @Jonny400 Рік тому

    I APSALOTLY LOVE THIS STORY. IM MAKEING MY OWN WORRIES.300 OFF THE BEST AND LOYALTY FOR LIFE BROTHER.

  • @tdesq.2463
    @tdesq.2463 2 роки тому +16

    Short Daggers. Yeah. That sends a pretty strong message. A Very Strong Message, actually. I like it much!
    Awesome vid, from start to finish. Thank You! 👍
    ~TD, Boston

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому +1

      🙏 thanks for watching

    • @tdesq.2463
      @tdesq.2463 2 роки тому +1

      @@OrionPhilosophy Thank YOU! Great Stuff!
      ~ Proud Subscriber in Boston

  • @Ranger215able
    @Ranger215able 2 роки тому +9

    To the World, surviving battles and war is seen as a victory in and of itself. But for the Spartans, survival in combat just meant that you live to die another day.

  • @jonschooley8951
    @jonschooley8951 2 роки тому +2

    Masterful work!

  • @robertorego9070
    @robertorego9070 Рік тому +1

    thanks bro... sometimes weve got lost in our ways.... youve brought me back.

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  Рік тому +1

      No worries, glad I could help 🙏

    • @robertorego9070
      @robertorego9070 Рік тому

      @@OrionPhilosophy you've got me on my feet., Bro sometimes all we need is a word... Gratitude on healing me

  • @goosyloose4115
    @goosyloose4115 2 роки тому +3

    I was never close with my dad until I chose to live with him. And it was definitely a wake up call. No getting out of jail free card here. That dude was fucking ruthless. My entire family is a different breed now that I think of it. Straight up turned me into a monster. All about your discipline.

  • @azzking9305
    @azzking9305 2 роки тому +7

    I didn’t realise these things were actually said, impressive!

    • @OrionPhilosophy
      @OrionPhilosophy  2 роки тому

      🙏

    • @obabas80
      @obabas80 Рік тому

      Imagine how much more was said and done. The Greeks were very good and the first to chronicle history, but much of it still was lost to time unfortunately we only have a sliver of it today.

  • @isaiah7640
    @isaiah7640 Рік тому

    This filled me with pride

  • @manganzon.
    @manganzon. 2 роки тому +1

    Subscribed. I appreciate these messages.

  • @Dontdothat5300
    @Dontdothat5300 2 роки тому +4

    This was an unexpected pleasure - thank you.

  • @pits7035
    @pits7035 2 роки тому +4

    Can't miss this 🎥

  • @starkilla102
    @starkilla102 Рік тому +1

    “We shall fight in the shade”… thatERB line makes so much sense now

  • @ciceromphilosophy8549
    @ciceromphilosophy8549 2 роки тому +2

    THE BEST VOICE IN THE WORLD , AND I LOVE IT. THANKS THAT YOU EXITST

  • @liangelostatum430
    @liangelostatum430 2 роки тому +5

    Much love from Philippines 💯

  • @IASONIROS
    @IASONIROS Рік тому +5

    Can I have the link or name of the music please? I want it for my training!

  • @hughbarton5743
    @hughbarton5743 2 роки тому

    Thank you Brittany!!!!

  • @rogerblank5280
    @rogerblank5280 Рік тому

    Thank you for the interesting historical Spartan content.

  • @johntrains1317
    @johntrains1317 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic video!

  • @J_mr.rogers
    @J_mr.rogers 2 роки тому +6

    Epic!!! 💪🏻

  • @samuelculpepper4490
    @samuelculpepper4490 Рік тому +1

    I'm so glad I found this page.

  • @CitizenWarriorFoundation
    @CitizenWarriorFoundation Рік тому

    Again,- impressive work, Orion. - M..

  • @damienkilcannonvryce
    @damienkilcannonvryce 2 роки тому +3

    Well done!!!!

  • @6hailhail7
    @6hailhail7 2 роки тому +5

    Love that chant💪

  • @EpiphanyMindChange
    @EpiphanyMindChange 9 місяців тому

    I've downloaded this and listened to this many times. It resets my mind from wallowing in weakness. 6:30 All listeners know what’s right, but only the Spartan souled do it. 3:05

  • @thomaslund6013
    @thomaslund6013 Рік тому +1

    Thanks! Great video pal. Love a bit of Education. Love Our History.

  • @thomashaley1036
    @thomashaley1036 2 роки тому +4

    Because I submit to injustice. . . Valuable lesson, things may not always be fair, life is not fair, but it can still be good.

  • @calemlinke773
    @calemlinke773 2 роки тому +3

    the difference between having a bodyguard is that you either know what you're doing, or you take for granted a good service to your fellow being, thus the reason why those who do good deeds and are loved by all the righteous don't need to be protected by any individuals provided... but the people will rise up in the anguish of their falling.

  • @juansantiagoyv
    @juansantiagoyv Рік тому

    So good!

  • @sarahk.2381
    @sarahk.2381 Рік тому

    Right now this will help me to survive until tomorrow morning. I'm in a nightmare state and definitely in the middle of an emotional and psychological war. I need to remain in a Spartan mindset if I am going to live to see tomorrow. Then I'll survive the next day and so on until the battle is over and I return triumphant. 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪 No retreat no surrender this is Spartan law.

  • @firebolt100
    @firebolt100 2 роки тому +21

    Will you please provide a link or a name for the background music in this video? Thank you in advance!

  • @luke1397
    @luke1397 Рік тому +7

    Phillip II of Macedon, “If I invade Lakonia you will be destroyed, never to rise again.”
    Spartans, “If.”
    😳

    • @julianvalero119
      @julianvalero119 Рік тому

      And he did invade them and crushed them and slayed their king 😂🤡

  • @Kepa-Riki
    @Kepa-Riki Рік тому +1

    Brilliant, thank you.

  • @doctorfate6414
    @doctorfate6414 2 роки тому +1

    Much needed.