Teach Writing Classically| The Schole Sisters Course that changed my Charlotte Mason Homeschool

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  • Teach Writing Classically with the Schole Sisters- Buy the course here: www.scholesisters.info/progym/
    Progymnasmata exercises
    Fable
    A fable conveys a truth using a short story. We state the moral.
    Narrative
    The content of the narrative exercise in the progymnasmata is either political, historical, or based on fiction. (Conveys who, what, when, where, why and how)
    Chreia or Maxim
    Saying used to develop the meanings of these actions or quotations with the framing under the headings of praise, paraphrase, cause, example of meaning, compare and contrast, testimonies, and an epilogue; anecdote is something that is frequently used in the Bible.
    Refutation
    This exercise required the student to logically reason against something drawn from myths, narratives, or fables. We refute something that is either impossible, illogical, unsuitable, or inexpedient.
    Confirmation
    The confirmation exercise is the opposite of refutation. The student will defend something drawn from legends and literature.
    Commonplace
    Working out the commonplace involved attacking vice by envisioning criticism of stereotypes rather than individuals. Students do this by using contradiction, comparison, and maxim attacking the motivation of the demographic described.
    Encomium
    Students used encomium to praise persons, things, times, places, animals, and growing things.
    Invective
    Invective opposes commonplace. It attacks a specific, named individual, usually a political or cultural figure.
    Comparison
    The comparison exercise acts as a double encomium or a combination of an encomium of one person or thing and the invective against another.
    Characterization
    Students used characterization or personification by forming a speech ascribed to the ghost of a known person or of an imaginary or mythological character from past, present, or future times. This exercise was intended to request students to perform it with clarity, conciseness, and floridity.
    Description
    When asked to use description to describe a person, place, thing, or time, students were obliged to produce a description that was complete. Included was detailed information about a person from head-to-toe, an action from start to finish, etc. This form is seen in many classical literature and historical writings.
    Thesis
    A thesis or argument in the form of a reasoned examination of anything under consideration.
    Introduction to law
    Aphtonius calls this final exercise a gymnasma rather than progymnasmata. This exercise is in the form of advocacy of a proposed law or opposition of it.
    time stamps
    00:00 -Introduction
    0:48 -What's the Progymnasmata?
    1:53 -Teaching Multiple ages at once
    3:09 - Engaging students deeply
    4:28 -Fable exercise explained
    5:56 -How to vary Fable exercises
    6:34 -Narrative exercises explained
    7:39 -Best age to start
    8:10 - Chreia or Maxim exercise explained
    9:26 - Organizing the class time
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  • @DorelisaGC
    @DorelisaGC 4 місяці тому

    This sounds like writing and rhetoric from classical academic press. This course sounds good.

  • @hoodmanstreams
    @hoodmanstreams 9 місяців тому

    I heard Joy recommend this progym course in a video not too long ago and decided to check it out. She's right; it's an invaluable resource. I've begun using it this year with my middle school son. Highly recommend it.

  • @aleshalipsky1684
    @aleshalipsky1684 9 місяців тому

    Very interesting! Thanks for sharing. I have a two in form 1, one in form 2, and one in form 4 and a 4 year along with us. Writing is not my strongest subject for sure and haven't found anything that is really making a big difference for us. We do a lot of composition and I give direction during that time. We work on grammar and all to. The writing comes naturally for my oldest but I can tell that I will need a bit more information for my second child. I will look into this for sure. Thanks for your time!!!

  • @LizGnagy
    @LizGnagy 9 місяців тому

    We use Classical Writing really love it. I’m hoping to adapt it a little, so hearing others’ methods is helpful. The progym is SO fascinating to me. I can’t believe I had never heard of it before having children of my own!

    • @joycherrick
      @joycherrick  9 місяців тому

      That's awesome! There is so much to learn!!!

  • @elizabetho7654
    @elizabetho7654 9 місяців тому

    I listened to the schole sisters podcast on this and I was so interested! I only have form 1B student right now and some littles. Excited to hear what you think!

    • @joycherrick
      @joycherrick  9 місяців тому +1

      It's fun to look ahead!

  • @ErstwhileEducation
    @ErstwhileEducation 7 місяців тому

    This was insightful! When would you recommend starting a classical writing program? My year 4 is doing okay with written narrations but has expressed interest in "learning how to write better." I have IEW All Things Fun, and Writing & Rhetoric Fable at my disposal... would you recommend either at this stage?

    • @joycherrick
      @joycherrick  7 місяців тому

      My Year four student joined us for part of the Progym lessons. He did well with poetry imitation (which is SO MUCH FUN!) and Fable work. The narrative work was harder for him and most of the grammar is going over his head. If your student is expressing interest in learning to write better, I recommend trying the progym and seeing how they do with Fable and throw in some poetry imitation for fun if you can. Have you learned about copia exercises? It's playing with words and word order. Erasmus has a chapter on his book "On Copia" where he rewrites a sentence 150 different ways! It's a really fun way to PLAY with language. Another thing to look at is impromptu games. It helps us think on our feet and organize our thoughts. Children of any age can do it. But the idea is that if we can think clearly and speak clearly then we can write clearly.

  • @steadfastschoolhouse
    @steadfastschoolhouse 9 місяців тому +1

    Since your family follows a CM homeschool, how does this fit in? I’m curious for our own CM homeschool. We are F1&2, but always looking ahead.

    • @joycherrick
      @joycherrick  9 місяців тому +1

      It fits into the writing composition block. It is intentional instruction for teaching writing- not just narrating from the text.

    • @steadfastschoolhouse
      @steadfastschoolhouse 9 місяців тому

      Sorry, I should have clarified; I didn’t mean fitting into the timetable. How do you use this in conjunction with written narration? Do you incorporate the exercises into their narrations? Completely separate?

  • @lizwetzel8579
    @lizwetzel8579 8 місяців тому

    I have struggled teaching writing so much. I keep "trusting the method" but my oldest isn't getting anywhere with my haphazard approach. She has great narrations, is proficient is spelling and grammar, and can vary sentence length. Getting her to a well-organized writing or being persuasive is were we falter, though. Do you think I have enough time to start this with a Y10?

    • @joycherrick
      @joycherrick  8 місяців тому

      You totally have time! We had several folks in the class with older students. Even going through the exercises in one term or one semester is valuable for anyone! These exercises are like a superpower. They are truly fabulous. Because you mentioned being well organized, you may also enjoy going through The Lively Art of Writing with her. That book explains how an essay works and what the function of the introduction is and how the paragraph helps to build out the thesis. Worth looking into! You've got this!

  • @heatherray2025
    @heatherray2025 9 місяців тому

    Ministry mama of many here, is this something you would recommend I save up for the course, or would the book the recommend be enough to help? My I have 1,3,5, 8,10,11,13 year olds and use CM but definitely need to work on composition more as my oldest is hitting that age. Been using Know and Tell and realize I just need to focus more on writing.

    • @joycherrick
      @joycherrick  9 місяців тому +1

      I have seen a huge impact in my confidence teaching not only writing but HOW to think! It is worth saving for, IMO. It's been a game changer for us and has already impacted the way I teach other subjects. Renee (the instructor) is a little monotone in her presentation. But the WORDS she is saying and the valuable information she conveys for HOW to engage our students when we are teaching them a skill (like writing) is beautiful and so helpful!

    • @heatherray2025
      @heatherray2025 9 місяців тому

      thank you will start saving, and hope to implement for next fall in high school @@joycherrick