Hi Dean, I actually use this quilt the same way as you do- completely around the pad. I know they don't recommend this but i turn from shoulder to shoulder 4 or 5 times per night, and i can turn around completely unhindered under the quilt (with the extra wide version) I ordered with 20D for added protection from the ground for this reason.
@@ssam143 yup. For much of the last 5 months we've been told to stay home and largely confined to the house. People face tough fines from the police if you're caught out of your local area without a good reason. We should be allowed out from early April :)
@@ds7221 : Wow! I had no idea it was that locked down in the UK. I'm glad to hear that y'all will soon be off house arrest. :) I bet your first hike will be extra amazing and spiritually uplifting.
@@ssam143 sadly UK has one of the highest Covid deaths as % population in the world. Government finally acknowledged the stats and enforced the lockdown. I've many UK hikes planned - east coast to west coast of England - 178 miles, 3-4 day hike in Dartmoor National park, South Downs Way - 100 miles. Focusing on a few short through hikes. Hope you're able to out for hikes too.
I was on the fence between UGQ and EE. UGQ also make excellent quilts. Great choice. Quilts are lighter and for me, much more comfortable. Thanks for the content :)
About 10 by 5 inch but i do not use it for 1 lame reason, it is an ugly brown colour. I shove it in a sea to summit 13l dry bag. I have never actually weighed it either, must do that.
@@ds7221 did you add overstuff in yours or does EE even do that? I know UGQ has that option of overstuffing with extra down…your EE quilt looked very stuffed looks super cozy
@@christianb8228 Hi Christian. EE overstuff by around 25%. Not sure you could get many more feathers into each of the baffles. Mine is plenty warm. During the winter I’m putting the quilt into an unzipped bivvi bag from Snugpack. This keeps it from getting damp and still gives me the ability to move freely. The combination really works.
Hi Dean, thanks for the review! I‘m in the process of ordering an EE quilt myself and was wondering if you opted for the 7d or 10d fabric on the inside and how happy you are with the quality and durability of it. I‘m not quite sure how big the difference between the different materials is and how the quality/durability between them differs
Hi there. I went for the 10D as there’s not much weight difference. The 10D is surprisingly robust and I’m very happy with it. I saw a UA-cam video from Darwin on the Trail and he was wearing EE’s insulated jacket. That was 7D and he said it was remarkably tough. I think you could easily get away with a 7D quilt if it’s going to be used in a tent situation as there’s not much to rip or tear it. Hope that helps.
Hi Dean, informative video thanks. I'm toying between the 20 degree quilt and the 10 degree quilt for my West Highland Way hike in June. I sleep a little cold so my head is saying get the 20 degree quilt (-6) but my Rab sleeping bag is also rated to -6 C. I was thinking of nabbing the 10 degree quilt (-12) just so I can have a warmer set up to use in winter but also use it in June on my WHW trip...with your knowledge of your 10 degree quilt would you say it's too warm for June use (I use an XTherm pad)? Cheers Andy
Hi Andy. I also sleep a little on the cold side and also use the 7R rated XTherm pad. For me my EE quilt is much too warm for the summer. I switch to a Thermorest zero degree quilt and I’m plenty warm enough. My insurance policy in case I’m cold is a lightweight down jacket and thermal long John’s. Hope that helps, Dean
Hi Dean, One more question: How are you with the 10'F (-12'C) version? Is it warm enough for you? lightweight or heavy? What kinds of locations are you planning to backpack with it? From your accent, one might assume you are based in England. I am deciding between the 10'F and 0'F (-17'C) versions...The 0'F version adds a few more ounces but might work better in the New York State winters. I would like to backpack in summer and also occasionally sleep outside in winter. Maybe I'm expecting too much from one sleeping bag?
Hi Stephen. I live in the UK and this will be my winter quilt. The temp I will be using it in will be lowest -10DegC. Typical will be around -5DegC. EE recommend to temperature down if you run cold and that’s what I did. For me that was the right decision. The climate here is high humidity which make it feel colder vs a dry climate. I am on blood thinners which makes me a bit colder hence the -12DegC quilt. It packs down small and lofts up a lot. I wear merino wool socks, leggings and top. Also a hat and neck warmer. I also carry a down jacket if it gets really cold. There is also the option of using a Thermarest sleeping bag liner - there are several version which can add as much as like 10DegC. The Thermarest mattress I show on the video reflects a huge amount of heat back and is critical to being warm. I have a Thermarest off-the-shelf +5DegC down quilt for late spring, summer and early Autumn. I think you need at least 2 x quilts in the UK to be just the right temp. I would not get sidetracked on weight - I have been absolutely miserable in a sleep system that was inadequate for the conditions. Get the right of for the job and use clothing to fine tune it. I am a hiker and wild camper. Typically 20miles and then camp. We have mostly tall hills here with limited mountains. Hope that help.
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, Thanks for the quick and detailed response. I appreciate it. I will probably go with the 0'F quilt as it may give me a wider range of options. I also just purchased the Thermarest Xtherm that you demonstrated in your video. As everyone points out, a warm quilt is no good without a warm sleeping pad. So, I will get the combo-platter: Xtherm + Revelation. As an aside, I have obtained Trailblazer guides for both the UK Coast-to-Coast Trail and the Hadrian's Wall Path. Have you walked either of these trails? The recommended method for Hadrian's Wall Path is east to west, but that would have the sun in one's eyes, so I'm thinking of going west to east (when Covid restrictions lift, that is). Thanks again for your feedback...very helpful. Cheers, Steve
@@zorrog.2947 Hi Stephen. No worries - happy to help. When I was purchasing my gear I reached out to a lot of people and I found the community brilliant at giving feedback. Very wise to go for the Thermarest Xtherm - it provides staggering reflective warmth. In combo they are superb. I’m actually going to do the English Coast to Coast in July (there’s also the Scottish one which “Darwin on the Trail” UA-camr did). If I get time this year I’ll also try to fit in Hadrians Wall which my partner is keen on (not done much research on it yet). So far I’ve mostly focused on the Lake District, Peak District, parts of Scotland and Wales. Now that Covid restrictions are easing I’ll be hitting the trails. Something like 6% of the UK is built on so there’s a lot of places to hike here. Small but well proportioned! Hope you make it across.
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, Thanks for the good feedback on the trails...very helpful. Yes, let's hope that the borders open up soon. I'm still waiting on the Rev-hole-ation quilt...Looking forward to it. I'm also going to order a Outdoor Research Helium bivy sack to complete the kit...Very easy to set up and use. What are you using for a shelter? Cheers, Steve
@@zorrog.2947 Hi Stephen. I’ve got a British army Gortex bivvi. Was very inexpensive but a little heavy. I use this if I’m under my tarp. Mainly though I use a tent. I’ve got a Hilleberg for winter and bad weather, a DyneemaTarptent for better weather, a MSR for on the hills during better weather. Buying kit can be an addiction and I’m trying to stop.
Hey Dean, thank you for a great review! Your excitement is infectious and I'm ordering a quilt tomorrow. Would you let us know the color you opted for on the inside of the quilt? Looks to be either Black 10D or Charcoal 10D (I'd like to get the same as I like the color 👍)
Thank you for the compliment. I went for 10D for both. The weight difference is negligible. Orange one side and the other black. It’s a superb quilt. I’d like to get a 0 DegC EE quilt for the non-winter months. I need to save up though. Cheers :)
Hi Dean, Thanks for the excellent review...Very helpful. It was my first chance to see the draft collar at each end. Are you happy with the length you have? Are you okay with your head sticking out? Also, I notice that when you cinch up the foot box, the quilt shortens by about 6". I am 6'1" (183 cm.) and am torn between the Regular and Long size? I am a side sleeper who likes to sleep out in cold weather with my head under the sleeping bag. Which size might you recommend? Any suggestions are most appreciated. Cheers!
Hi Stephen. I am 6 foot 3 and 80kg and I went for the “long” and “wide” version of the quilt. They have “extra long” and “extra wide” options. But the quit I have really works for me. There’s loads of width and I get zero drafts. There’s loads of the quilt to tuck under the sleeping pad. I am also a side sleeper. There’s also plenty of length for me. But I don’t like to have my face under the quilt. I prefer hat and neck warmer. If you like your head under the quilt I’d recommend you go for the “extra long”. Hope that helps. Cheers
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, Thanks for your quick response...Much appreciated. Very helpful. For me, in winter, I'm not sure in really cold weather -20' to -10'C if a hat would be enough. I'll give it more thought. Cheers, Steve
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, One more question: How long is your quilt with the foot box closed? I figure about 78" but just wanted to verify. My concern is that the Long size may be too long for me (I'm 6' tall). Happy trails!
@@zorrog.2947 Hi Stephen. With the foot box winched tight the length of the quilt is 198cm or just over 79 inches. The length may reduce a little when you are in it. There’s a UA-cam guy called “Justin Outdoors” and he is in Canada and goes camping mid winter. He uses a quilt together with a separate duck down hood which extends down to his shoulders. You can get them from eBay and AlliExpress. Seems to work for him. Hope this helps.
Great video, I was a bit disappointed to learn that Enlightened Equipment uses duck down in my 850 fill stock Revelation. They only use premium goose down in their 950 fill quilts
The temperature ratings on this bag is awful. Read the reviews on their on website to back up. I bought the -6c. The temp dropped to around +1c and I was bloody cold. For the money I paid and to have it imported to the UK, I am seriously pissed off. Until you’ve used it on the trail you don’t know how it will hold up, which it DID NOT, and then obviously you can not return it. All the hype around these bags - what a let down!!!
Mine is a -12DegC. Which I bought for that reason. I get cold. Conversely my brother is like a furnace and takes a 0DegC quilt. I also wear thermals, down booties and a hat. I talked with EE a bit beforehand about which temp rating to go for and we both came to the -12 quilt. I agree with you - it’s a blimin minefield and by the time you find out it’s too late.
Hi Dean, I actually use this quilt the same way as you do- completely around the pad. I know they don't recommend this but i turn from shoulder to shoulder 4 or 5 times per night, and i can turn around completely unhindered under the quilt (with the extra wide version) I ordered with 20D for added protection from the ground for this reason.
Hi Joshua … I sleep like a baby with this and the extra wide Xtherm pad.
I just got my EE revelation. I’m loving it so far.
Nice one - great choice. When lock down ends I'll be out using mine again.
@@ds7221 : They won't let you go backpacking because of the pandemic? That seems like an unnecessary control. I'm sorry to hear this.
@@ssam143 yup. For much of the last 5 months we've been told to stay home and largely confined to the house. People face tough fines from the police if you're caught out of your local area without a good reason. We should be allowed out from early April :)
@@ds7221 : Wow! I had no idea it was that locked down in the UK. I'm glad to hear that y'all will soon be off house arrest. :) I bet your first hike will be extra amazing and spiritually uplifting.
@@ssam143 sadly UK has one of the highest Covid deaths as % population in the world. Government finally acknowledged the stats and enforced the lockdown. I've many UK hikes planned - east coast to west coast of England - 178 miles, 3-4 day hike in Dartmoor National park, South Downs Way - 100 miles. Focusing on a few short through hikes. Hope you're able to out for hikes too.
Nice one, i got myself a UGQ this year. Quilts are the way ahead. I will give you a sub. Keep safe👍🏼
I was on the fence between UGQ and EE. UGQ also make excellent quilts. Great choice. Quilts are lighter and for me, much more comfortable. Thanks for the content :)
Yes totally more comfortable, i am a mover during sleep. Love the freedom of movement a quilt offers.
About 10 by 5 inch but i do not use it for 1 lame reason, it is an ugly brown colour. I shove it in a sea to summit 13l dry bag. I have never actually weighed it either, must do that.
@@ds7221 did you add overstuff in yours or does EE even do that? I know UGQ has that option of overstuffing with extra down…your EE quilt looked very stuffed looks super cozy
@@christianb8228 Hi Christian. EE overstuff by around 25%. Not sure you could get many more feathers into each of the baffles. Mine is plenty warm. During the winter I’m putting the quilt into an unzipped bivvi bag from Snugpack. This keeps it from getting damp and still gives me the ability to move freely. The combination really works.
Hi Dean, thanks for the review! I‘m in the process of ordering an EE quilt myself and was wondering if you opted for the 7d or 10d fabric on the inside and how happy you are with the quality and durability of it. I‘m not quite sure how big the difference between the different materials is and how the quality/durability between them differs
Hi there. I went for the 10D as there’s not much weight difference. The 10D is surprisingly robust and I’m very happy with it. I saw a UA-cam video from Darwin on the Trail and he was wearing EE’s insulated jacket. That was 7D and he said it was remarkably tough. I think you could easily get away with a 7D quilt if it’s going to be used in a tent situation as there’s not much to rip or tear it. Hope that helps.
Hi Dean, informative video thanks. I'm toying between the 20 degree quilt and the 10 degree quilt for my West Highland Way hike in June. I sleep a little cold so my head is saying get the 20 degree quilt (-6) but my Rab sleeping bag is also rated to -6 C. I was thinking of nabbing the 10 degree quilt (-12) just so I can have a warmer set up to use in winter but also use it in June on my WHW trip...with your knowledge of your 10 degree quilt would you say it's too warm for June use (I use an XTherm pad)? Cheers Andy
Hi Andy. I also sleep a little on the cold side and also use the 7R rated XTherm pad. For me my EE quilt is much too warm for the summer. I switch to a Thermorest zero degree quilt and I’m plenty warm enough. My insurance policy in case I’m cold is a lightweight down jacket and thermal long John’s. Hope that helps, Dean
Hi Dean, One more question: How are you with the 10'F (-12'C) version? Is it warm enough for you? lightweight or heavy? What kinds of locations are you planning to backpack with it? From your accent, one might assume you are based in England. I am deciding between the 10'F and 0'F (-17'C) versions...The 0'F version adds a few more ounces but might work better in the New York State winters. I would like to backpack in summer and also occasionally sleep outside in winter. Maybe I'm expecting too much from one sleeping bag?
Hi Stephen. I live in the UK and this will be my winter quilt. The temp I will be using it in will be lowest -10DegC. Typical will be around -5DegC. EE recommend to temperature down if you run cold and that’s what I did. For me that was the right decision. The climate here is high humidity which make it feel colder vs a dry climate. I am on blood thinners which makes me a bit colder hence the -12DegC quilt. It packs down small and lofts up a lot. I wear merino wool socks, leggings and top. Also a hat and neck warmer. I also carry a down jacket if it gets really cold. There is also the option of using a Thermarest sleeping bag liner - there are several version which can add as much as like 10DegC. The Thermarest mattress I show on the video reflects a huge amount of heat back and is critical to being warm. I have a Thermarest off-the-shelf +5DegC down quilt for late spring, summer and early Autumn. I think you need at least 2 x quilts in the UK to be just the right temp. I would not get sidetracked on weight - I have been absolutely miserable in a sleep system that was inadequate for the conditions. Get the right of for the job and use clothing to fine tune it. I am a hiker and wild camper. Typically 20miles and then camp. We have mostly tall hills here with limited mountains. Hope that help.
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, Thanks for the quick and detailed response. I appreciate it. I will probably go with the 0'F quilt as it may give me a wider range of options. I also just purchased the Thermarest Xtherm that you demonstrated in your video. As everyone points out, a warm quilt is no good without a warm sleeping pad. So, I will get the combo-platter: Xtherm + Revelation. As an aside, I have obtained Trailblazer guides for both the UK Coast-to-Coast Trail and the Hadrian's Wall Path. Have you walked either of these trails? The recommended method for Hadrian's Wall Path is east to west, but that would have the sun in one's eyes, so I'm thinking of going west to east (when Covid restrictions lift, that is). Thanks again for your feedback...very helpful. Cheers, Steve
@@zorrog.2947 Hi Stephen. No worries - happy to help. When I was purchasing my gear I reached out to a lot of people and I found the community brilliant at giving feedback. Very wise to go for the Thermarest Xtherm - it provides staggering reflective warmth. In combo they are superb. I’m actually going to do the English Coast to Coast in July (there’s also the Scottish one which “Darwin on the Trail” UA-camr did). If I get time this year I’ll also try to fit in Hadrians Wall which my partner is keen on (not done much research on it yet). So far I’ve mostly focused on the Lake District, Peak District, parts of Scotland and Wales. Now that Covid restrictions are easing I’ll be hitting the trails. Something like 6% of the UK is built on so there’s a lot of places to hike here. Small but well proportioned! Hope you make it across.
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, Thanks for the good feedback on the trails...very helpful. Yes, let's hope that the borders open up soon. I'm still waiting on the Rev-hole-ation quilt...Looking forward to it. I'm also going to order a Outdoor Research Helium bivy sack to complete the kit...Very easy to set up and use. What are you using for a shelter? Cheers, Steve
@@zorrog.2947 Hi Stephen. I’ve got a British army Gortex bivvi. Was very inexpensive but a little heavy. I use this if I’m under my tarp. Mainly though I use a tent. I’ve got a Hilleberg for winter and bad weather, a DyneemaTarptent for better weather, a MSR for on the hills during better weather. Buying kit can be an addiction and I’m trying to stop.
Hey Dean, thank you for a great review! Your excitement is infectious and I'm ordering a quilt tomorrow. Would you let us know the color you opted for on the inside of the quilt? Looks to be either Black 10D or Charcoal 10D (I'd like to get the same as I like the color 👍)
Thank you for the compliment. I went for 10D for both. The weight difference is negligible. Orange one side and the other black. It’s a superb quilt. I’d like to get a 0 DegC EE quilt for the non-winter months. I need to save up though. Cheers :)
@@ds7221 thanks again. Enjoy the adventures in the meantime!
Hi Dean, Thanks for the excellent review...Very helpful. It was my first chance to see the draft collar at each end. Are you happy with the length you have? Are you okay with your head sticking out? Also, I notice that when you cinch up the foot box, the quilt shortens by about 6". I am 6'1" (183 cm.) and am torn between the Regular and Long size? I am a side sleeper who likes to sleep out in cold weather with my head under the sleeping bag. Which size might you recommend? Any suggestions are most appreciated. Cheers!
Hi Stephen. I am 6 foot 3 and 80kg and I went for the “long” and “wide” version of the quilt. They have “extra long” and “extra wide” options. But the quit I have really works for me. There’s loads of width and I get zero drafts. There’s loads of the quilt to tuck under the sleeping pad. I am also a side sleeper. There’s also plenty of length for me. But I don’t like to have my face under the quilt. I prefer hat and neck warmer. If you like your head under the quilt I’d recommend you go for the “extra long”. Hope that helps. Cheers
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, Thanks for your quick response...Much appreciated. Very helpful. For me, in winter, I'm not sure in really cold weather -20' to -10'C if a hat would be enough. I'll give it more thought. Cheers, Steve
@@ds7221 Hi Dean, One more question: How long is your quilt with the foot box closed? I figure about 78" but just wanted to verify. My concern is that the Long size may be too long for me (I'm 6' tall). Happy trails!
@@zorrog.2947 Hi Stephen. With the foot box winched tight the length of the quilt is 198cm or just over 79 inches. The length may reduce a little when you are in it. There’s a UA-cam guy called “Justin Outdoors” and he is in Canada and goes camping mid winter. He uses a quilt together with a separate duck down hood which extends down to his shoulders. You can get them from eBay and AlliExpress. Seems to work for him. Hope this helps.
@@ds7221 Dean, Thanks for the tip...I'll check it out. Cheers!
Looks like a good product. How small is it in the stuff sack?
I'll try it in the stuff sack again, but it compresses down to the size of a 3 season sleeping bag. For a 4 season it packs down remarkably small.
Great video, I was a bit disappointed to learn that Enlightened Equipment uses duck down in my 850 fill stock Revelation. They only use premium goose down in their 950 fill quilts
I was tempted to go for the 950 but couldn’t validate or really afford the price difference. Probably will regret that decision!
The temperature ratings on this bag is awful. Read the reviews on their on website to back up. I bought the -6c. The temp dropped to around +1c and I was bloody cold. For the money I paid and to have it imported to the UK, I am seriously pissed off. Until you’ve used it on the trail you don’t know how it will hold up, which it DID NOT, and then obviously you can not return it. All the hype around these bags - what a let down!!!
Mine is a -12DegC. Which I bought for that reason. I get cold. Conversely my brother is like a furnace and takes a 0DegC quilt. I also wear thermals, down booties and a hat. I talked with EE a bit beforehand about which temp rating to go for and we both came to the -12 quilt. I agree with you - it’s a blimin minefield and by the time you find out it’s too late.
Yep, I so wished I had bought the -12, and only for about $20 more!