Kenya's 1963 Independence constitution was partly written by Justice Thurgood Marshall (first black US Chief Justice ,friends with Kenya Nationalists Tom Mboya, Oginga Odinga and Jomo Kenyatta), particularly the section on rights of racial minorities, whites, asians/indians, arabs, jews etc as a result white Kenyans and other groups coming into Kenya were welcomed to this day including white South Africans(Afrikaans) brought to Kenya in early 20th century to farm in the rift valley . They were considered lower class whites relative to white British ,Irish, Scottish in Kenya . Several Kenyan Businesses still owned by descendants of whites including Afrikaans and Indians . Arabs and Persians have been at Kenya coast for over 500-1000 years and the Swahili ethnic group in Kenya is a mixture of Black Kenyan Bantus ,Arabs and Persians .
Kenya had a mutiny plot by Airforce Pilot Joseph Daniel Owino in 1964 against President Jomo Kenyatta and a second coup plot in 1971 by Airforce Fighter Pilot Fredrick Collins Omondi Oyoo with the help of Daniel Owino against Jomo Kenyatta . In 1982 Kenya Airforce officers led by Hezekiah Ochuka ,Pancras Okumu Oteyo , Ogidi Obuon ,Walter Odira Ojode ,Fenwicks Chesoli Odera Obedi, Sgt Richard Obuon,Cpl Ombok,Cpt Agola etc staged a coup rebellion against Daniel Moi . From 1982 to 1999 Kenya life expectancy dropped to 52 under Daniel Moi . Today trending towards 70 .
Uganda's President Milton Obote(Luo-Langi) was close friends with Kenya's VP Oginga Odinga (Luo-proper). Both graduates of Makerere University in Uganda participated in the formation of Kenya's Independence Party and Convinced Kenya's 3rd President Mwai Kibaki(graduate of Makerere and London School of Economics with a Ugandan Passport)to move back to Kenya from his teaching Job at Makerere and be Executive director of the Independence Party . Uganda Liberation Army exiles led by Gen Tito Okello(Luo-Acholi),Gen Oyite Ojok(Luo-Langi),Gen Bazillio Olara Okello(Luo-Acholi) supported by President Julius Nyerere of Tanzania and VP Oginga Odinga launched a rebellion against Idi Amin of Uganda restoring Milton Obote in 1979 .
Only Oshay mentioned the fact that Uganda had a civil war. But it is crucial to note that since 1962, Uganda has not had a stable government and economic growth till about the 90s and the 2000s. It is a shame that the Ugandan guy on the panel only cared to make the women think that he's got money, instead of making sensible constructive comparisons between the two cities based on their histories, geographical locations and close proximities to the outside world. SMH! Intelligent people are not impressed by mere claiming words. To be honest, comparing Nairobi to Kampala is like comparing New York to Berlin. It is puerile. The fact is Berlin suffered 2 major wars combined with major economic decline which New York has never suffered. Same thing with Kampala. Since 1962, Kampala has suffered war after war, no stable governments or economic growth till recently, which Nairobi has never suffered. Nairobi is tourist driven, and has been for the longest. That is why you will find more of different races of people that have lived there pre and post colonial times. I find that Kampala after the numerous periods of political instability and economic decline, has made great strides to develop itself. Of course Uganda as a whole being located close to both Kenya and Tanzania that have been stable since independence, has benefitted a great deal in emulating the economic growth of both countries. I find it funny that it had to be Oshay, someone not from Uganda to be the one that is more knowledgeable about Uganda's past political turmoil and the general position it is in now, which is reflective of Kampala in relation to Nairobi. But that Ugandan guy on the panel was only there to try and impress the women by making puerile claims of having money! Ha ha ha. Some men seriously need to grow up.
Am Kenyan and I've been to Uganda once. Was en-route to Rwanda. So I crisscrossed the entire of country from Malaba Border to Mbarara. Uganda is a beautiful country. And thank you for the compliments on my motherland 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪
You shouldn't overlook the security in Kampala. As a Kenyan i felt a lot safer in Kampala (Nakawa region) when I went out to a couple of clubs. Shocking to see private security guards with guns. It's a lot more rustic but and less developed but a lot more relaxed and people are super friendly and welcoming.
I am a 58 year old Ugandan born in Uganda but raised and educated mostly as an exile in Kenya. Kenya is clearly more advanced in infrastructure & sophistication and has always been. Uganda's major weakness is landlocked-ess but it makes up for it with the climate and the food and leisure industries, the amazing geography and scenery, the lower cost of living. The two sisters countries should really be one.
Electricity is not a problem the further you move out of the center in Nairobi… only issue is traffic if you work in town.. otherwise if you don’t have to be in town everyday then outskirts are better.. there is everything there now… good internet, water electricity and cheaper housing
I'm a kenyan living in Uganda.. and my 2 main challenges with UG is internet infrastructure and lack of taxi services..the likes of uber...but I understand why... the economy is still coming up...Great people in UG too... and amazing culture...
@@mosesogutu9935 Hope you will level up on your way to heaven too, i mean, life is what you make it, some of us live the simplest of life...we dont stress, you wanna stress coz you can't find a uber, thats your problem...for example i know alot of non uber drivers who are a call away !
I am Ugandan. Having had the privilege of living & working in cities like Cape Town, Nairobi, Johannesburg, Kigali and Kampala, all I can say is given Uganda's disadvantageous geographical position, for Kampala (with all its chaos) to occasionally be in the same conversations alongside "continent heavy weights" is a small promising win for Ug. I find that Nairobi and Kampala (given their broad contrasts) tend to have quite a number of baseline similarities their main difference, in my opinion, simply being geographical positioning (which has a major knock-on effect). Economically speaking, as one commenter pointed out, if you swapped the positions of both countries, we start having these same conversations and comparisons all over again in 50 years time with the keywords "Nairobi" and "Kenya" swapped for "Kampala" and "Uganda". Or even another way to view it is add another country to the east of Kenya (basically land lock Kenya) and you start to see the numbers go down there as well. Uganda is that shabby kid in the family that everyone makes fun of but still takes some liking to for some reason. Being in the center of the region, Uganda enjoys direct 1-on-1 (bar Burundi) border relations with all EA states. Kenganda, I'd actually love a video "comparing" landlocked countries on the continent. Below is a contestable claim from Chat-GPT ("economic ranking of land locked countries in Africa") "According to the International Monetary Fund's (IMF) World Economic Outlook Database from October 2021, here are the top five landlocked countries in Africa ranked by GDP per capita: Botswana - $8,908 Uganda - $1,076 Zambia - $1,015 Zimbabwe - $889 Burkina Faso - $794" As a digital nomad, I loooove both countries I feel like I cannot exist without the other. I see them as one. To answer the question. Starting out coming from the Diaspora, Nairobi ticks most of the boxes as a safe landing, however, I've noticed as well a few expats that overtime end up preferring Kampala. Much love East Africa ❤ Tuko Pamoja ✊
Kenya and Uganda is actually one country! You can throw Tanzania in there too. I grew up in Kenya and spent time in Uganda going to school and lived in TZ. I personally don’t see any difference between these 3. They’re one.
some people are so ignorant honestly. I cant believe someone has the nerve in this day and age to wave that nonsensical gdp flag in our faces. Gdp is western bullshit that was invented to demoralize so called third world countries. Its like ranking children in a class telling them you are number 1, you are number 2, 6, 9, 17, 28 etc because you scored this on that test and that on this test. Do you seriously think all children have the same capabilities. A child can fail in math, english, geography etc yet be very gifted in other faculties. it's stupid to tell someone you are number 35 or number 67 just because they dont measure up to your standards of success. African standards of success/prosperity/progress cannot be measured with the yardstick of western ideals.
I am a Kenyan who has been living in Kampala for the last 10 years and over these years has had the privilege to visit the whole of Uganda. I agree with many of the observations and comments made. I strongly believe that security wise living in Kampala one feels more safer than in Nairobi generally.
indeed Nairobi is a developed city compared to Kampala however in term of cost of leaving for a common person Kampala is more affordable with little money you can still survive in Kampala again when you look at the Uganda shilling is stable while Kenya shilling is depreciating at faster rate with high fuel price compared to Kampala
This panel needed a historian too, and Oshay mentioned Uganda's history of past wars! In Uganda, we have a lot to catch up with in terms of development. Kenya is miles ahead because they didn't lose time fighting useless wars. Plus Kenya is on the Indian ocean coast, while Uganda is landlocked ❤
Food in UG is plenty. I bought very nice bread in the supermarket al9ng Ggaba Road, bread that would cost an arm and a leg in Nairobi. At Ggaba Beach, fish was so delicious and massive compared to Kenyan samaki. Food is yummy in UG. Business is slow. I couldn't buy an airtel sim card because the govt had banned sale of new sim cards. Can you imagine such a scenario in Nairobi? There would be riots! Kabalagala Red District was lively. Morning came too soon!
Cheap living costs in Uganda, hosts millions of refugees from East Africa and beyond, students from all over Africa and beyond Kenya inclusive come for education in Uganda, security is good in Kampala evident by the safe night life, ofcouse the vibe is waaw❤❤ with loving and hospitable people. Don't forget it's a landlocked country but still does great,,, with ofcouse amazing weather, food and climate. I love Kenya for good transport means.
I visited Uganda,.went to a hotel for a cup of tea at around 11and I was told breakfast is over ...we are preparing lunch😂😂😂😂what?in Kenya you get tea anytime
Kenya is more developed with very high cost of living, Uganda 's cost of living is fair , affordable, with plenty of food, easily adoptable,they were welcoming,once you step to Ugandan soil,you cease to be a foreigner,if you have your money,you can start up your business,buy land build a house etc That's The pearl of Africa,Uganda.
Kenya have a coast so things will be cheaper, Uganda is land locked so it’s probably harder to acquire inventory …. Sounds like a opportunity to expand on
two different countries. A lot off times people tend to forget Kenya's strength is its people and is what sets its apart from other eastafrican countries really. They are "hard-headed" which helps with resilience to setbacks and barriers pushing them to find solutions or by-passing walls however ridiculous the means might be.
Jackson, i like the way he presents his ideas. He is an intelligent man clarifying on the most important aspects about life situations and issues world-wide that are very crucial. Am a Ugandan happy to have him in the country. Best regards for him
Uganda just needs to change their governance system by making sure they reduce the presidential term limit. This will give room for new ideas, new energy and also put a sitting president under pressure to want to leave a legacy knowing very well they won't be in power forever. Here in kenya for example, kibaki gave us free primary education and built us thika road as his legacy, uhuru built so many roads including the Nairobi expressway as something to be remembered for. Iam pretty sure Ruto is also working on something to be remembered for by the end of his regime. Unless Uganda follows these footsteps, you guys aren't coming out of that situation anytime soon!
When we're done with Konza city, Tatu city and The Northlands city, Kenya will be 50years away from any other African country including most European and Asian countries.
Being an English teacher to foreigners mostly to non English speakers, many expressed that Uganda seemed more secure to live in. Nairobi is definitely fast paced and with a great economy. I lived in Kenya for 4yrs. Looks like you only made the comparisons between Nairobi and Kampala not Uganda and Kenya. You need to look at places like Entebbe, Jinja,.... etc where most foreign settlers live. Then Malindi, Machakos,.......
I lived in Kenya for 4 years too (uni) Yes, they have several better stuff, but when one lives in Kampala, you will come to appreciate the niceness of the place. Entebbe is beautiful and such relaxed. That is where I live when I am in Uganda. Night life in Ug is far far better
@@MilesSsembatya its as real as any other major city in the world but grossly exaggerated by the locals, i've felt more unsafe in some towns in the UK & Belgium than i've ever felt in over a decade of living in Nairobi.
As a patriotic Ugandan, I'm grateful that we had that American and the Kenyan lady for the more balanced discussion they brought what we call perspective.Ugandans generally ara negative about there country forgetting where we are coming from plus we have no coast which makes business really hard. But I think you guys were really informative and Uganda has a lot of catching up to do so help us God. I love kenya
One of the most informative episodes you guys have ever done! It was great to hear about things that also matter in regards to the motherland 🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🎯✅ #Salute #TeamKenganda #WeUp
Point of correction. Kileleshwa, Kilimani, westlands and the likes are middle class neighbourhoods... I live in Kileleshwa and we say people who live in Kyuna, Kitusuru, Spring valley are upper class, then you have the rich and the wealthy who live in Runda, Karen...
Same problem in Nigeria. You have to go to multiple stores in order to find a few basic needs. In addition, the stores are riddled with fake local and imported essential commodities, which I found shocking and dangerous. Something I never experienced living in 3 civilised nations of the world
Great episode, I want a footprint in all corners of the continent and Uganda could be a contender. Originally I was only considering Rwanda as far as east Africa goes.
my dad was in primary school when museveni seize power in 1896. my dad was just a boy. he completed primary, went to ghigh school, college, and finish then he married my mom in 1996 & they birth us. we went to kindergarten, primary, secondary, university and finish, i then marry a wife she is now expecting and MUSEVENI is still in power. uganda shame on you. remove him by force
@@milarsejemba313 I am not complaining, what i did was casting my vote hoping for change in 2021 but nothing changed for better, its just getting worse each day. What i am doing now is hustling to survive with my family.
I am a Ugandan and i visited karen in Kenya and stayed for a few days but i was home sick 😔 uganda 🇺🇬 for life so easy for everything especially kampala its heaven on earth we will develop slowly 🐌
We do have sea food in Uganda. You just have to know the right places, plus I have to say it is quite expensive. I guess thats cause they have to compensate for all the transportation costs.
@@Silverbackugx Try out Hickory, or stone haven both are located in Kololo. The Seven Seas Restaurant Sheraton or the laughing lobster. You'll definitely find something nice.
@@Silverbackugx 😂😂when you start bringing shrimps and octopus and oysters that's not for us ..we don't eat alot of sea foods that's y ...if you want it you will find it at 5 star hotels that's best recommendation .
I am Kenyan and I am embarrassed coz I have never visited Uganda. I am taking a bus to Kampala next month coz I will be working at Busia..Kenya /Uganda border.
Supermarket meat and chicken bro in uganda we eat fresh meat and chicken u buy a live on from the market and it’s cut and cleaned on spot not that frozen staff which tends to go bad at times try moving more get local friends
I lived in Kenya - Nairobi (Near that fancy Karen) for 4 years and ofcourse I lived in Kampala longer. I would say, it's not fair to compare Kampala with Nirobi. Kampala has a long way to go especially in transport, google maps, tech, and ofcourse classic business (especially with international trademarks) However, when it comes to social life, KAMPALA IS KING. Kampala wins in Simplicity, easy maneuver, partying, entertainment and security. (Oh yes, downtown kla is very cheap, half a $ can give you a meal for an entire day) If we talk about UGANDA Vs KENYA, its a different thing. First of all, we take it back to history...crisis, wars, etc. Uganda has hosted refugees almost on anual basis...from Rwanda, From Congo till today, Millions from South Sudan etc. and these have affected the centralisation and distribution of resources to outside Kampala areas. HOWEVER, EDUCATION IN UGANDA has been more and more competivie. Many kenyans came to study in ug (as well as Tanzanias and Rwandans) Uganda is a land locked country, almost half of Kenya but it has such a pontential. It needs just some serious fixing and it could be an African hub. DON'T FORGET UGANDA IS BETTER IN SOCCER, VOLLEBALL ETC IN THE ENTIRE EAST AFRICA. (Kenya better at running and rugby) Many stuff to compare...unlimited
Those who came to study in Uganda in the 2000s came because of cheaper costs, not quality. Since government started offering loans to all students those numbers are now insignificant
Can you do a video on food killing us in the U.S vs Uganda/Africa? Where I live we don’t have real farmer’s markets. Also, the organic fruits and vegetables are expensive, but small in size here. Love the podcast! Keep informing us 🤎🖤🤎
Guys i like your show, actually am a kenyan working in south sudan but for sure whenever i reach kampala city, i get pissed to a level i would prefer government should construct a road thats passes outside the city. The mess inside their unbareable
I love Ugandans and the food! The mixture of rain and warmth was quite great for me coming from Nairobi, I could take a cold shower on a rainy day! Areas of improvement -The roads are very narrow in Uganda, in Kenya even the non tarmarcked are wider. The public system in Kenya is clearly marked. For Uganda taxis/matatus can use different routes that's tricky for a visitor
The truth is that Kampala is still very rural, which is an embarrassment really. Meanwhile, the amounts of money collected by government in that city are simply insane!!!!!!
thank yuo. kampala is very rural and dirty looking. not as organized or clean as kenya. but it can be helped if they copy what kenya is doing. also museveni. he need to go right away. it is so embarassing
uganda is the girl thats plain and need some touch ups & make ups to excite someone kenya is the girl thats well put, has her shyte together - ie miss independent. she dont come cheap so make sure you can afford her. can you? no actually .... ken ya? ken ya afford her?
I like the conversation. I have tested both countries i can say they're advantages and disadvantages. I have alot to say but i can text all i have to say.
She is right about the music industry. You can go to the radio station and they will play one hundred Nigerian artist before they play one Kenyan artist lol...
I’ve been with Kenyan party goers and they are so demanding.. they will tell you to change songs all the time… ask for raggae music and all that.. the djs maybe play it safe.. in Uganda it’s the opposite, if you want English and nigerian songs , you have to go the high end expensive bars.. we have bars everywhere, in every corner, don’t like music go to another
Uganda problem is the President...Yes I said it. Kenya and Uganda should be doing business together and growing together. East Africa should one, not competing. We should have shared infrastructure and markets.
As a somali. Brother who grow up in the nederlands i m right now living in Nairobi kenya for western american. You go to uganada pls. It is perfect for the educated American. Kenya is perfect to. We love it here in kenya i love kenya everthing is good looks like the west uganda is expensive butt if you can do it
Go karting in Uganda is in Lubowa. ATV riding in Jinja. There are activities, just not as diverse and easily accessible. I think real estate is cheaper in Kenya, especially value for money. But food and bevs and entertainment are cheaper in Uganda. I didn't hear the intangibles mentioned much. Uganda seems more carefree and easygoing, but on the flip side, it is less organised and a lot more dysfunctional. Overall, i think Uganda has better security.
In my opinion about Kampala city appearance is largely based on most land being still in possession of individuals and families, yet they will not develop these places to city standard. Land policies have also played a huge role in slow progress of kampala city. Not sure how Nairobi city handles land ownership.. someone share. Been to kenyan borders next to uganda, and its mainly rural.
People need to understand that the culture in nairobi is mostly restricted to nairobi, it is not the same everywhere in kenya. You can experience a much more laid back way of doing things at mombasa or kisumu.
TRANSLATED SYNOPSIS: What's great about Uganda is that Uganda is so bad that we have a hundred times more areas to improve than Kenya. And if you come here with a strong work ethic, you'll have an advantage cause few others share that ethic. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for Uganda! OK, I'll stop before someone punches me in the face. Uganda's strength is a sweeter, more modest and innocent populace, where making friends and acclimating is easier. I have met a handful of Kenyans in my life and travels, as well as a handful of Ugandans, and it's a monster slam dunk. I like Ugandans much better!
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Kenya's 1963 Independence constitution was partly written by Justice Thurgood Marshall (first black US Chief Justice ,friends with Kenya Nationalists Tom Mboya, Oginga Odinga and Jomo Kenyatta), particularly the section on rights of racial minorities, whites, asians/indians, arabs, jews etc as a result white Kenyans and other groups coming into Kenya were welcomed to this day including white South Africans(Afrikaans) brought to Kenya in early 20th century to farm in the rift valley . They were considered lower class whites relative to white British ,Irish, Scottish in Kenya . Several Kenyan Businesses still owned by descendants of whites including Afrikaans and Indians . Arabs and Persians have been at Kenya coast for over 500-1000 years and the Swahili ethnic group in Kenya is a mixture of Black Kenyan Bantus ,Arabs and Persians .
Kenya had a mutiny plot by Airforce Pilot Joseph Daniel Owino in 1964 against President Jomo Kenyatta and a second coup plot in 1971 by Airforce Fighter Pilot Fredrick Collins Omondi Oyoo with the help of Daniel Owino against Jomo Kenyatta . In 1982 Kenya Airforce officers led by Hezekiah Ochuka ,Pancras Okumu Oteyo , Ogidi Obuon ,Walter Odira Ojode ,Fenwicks Chesoli Odera Obedi, Sgt Richard Obuon,Cpl Ombok,Cpt Agola etc staged a coup rebellion against Daniel Moi . From 1982 to 1999 Kenya life expectancy dropped to 52 under Daniel Moi . Today trending towards 70 .
Uganda's President Milton Obote(Luo-Langi) was close friends with Kenya's VP Oginga Odinga (Luo-proper). Both graduates of Makerere University in Uganda participated in the formation of Kenya's Independence Party and Convinced Kenya's 3rd President Mwai Kibaki(graduate of Makerere and London School of Economics with a Ugandan Passport)to move back to Kenya from his teaching Job at Makerere and be Executive director of the Independence Party . Uganda Liberation Army exiles led by Gen Tito Okello(Luo-Acholi),Gen Oyite Ojok(Luo-Langi),Gen Bazillio Olara Okello(Luo-Acholi) supported by President Julius Nyerere of Tanzania and VP Oginga Odinga launched a rebellion against Idi Amin of Uganda restoring Milton Obote in 1979 .
Only Oshay mentioned the fact that Uganda had a civil war. But it is crucial to note that since 1962, Uganda has not had a stable government and economic growth till about the 90s and the 2000s. It is a shame that the Ugandan guy on the panel only cared to make the women think that he's got money, instead of making sensible constructive comparisons between the two cities based on their histories, geographical locations and close proximities to the outside world. SMH! Intelligent people are not impressed by mere claiming words.
To be honest, comparing Nairobi to Kampala is like comparing New York to Berlin. It is puerile. The fact is Berlin suffered 2 major wars combined with major economic decline which New York has never suffered. Same thing with Kampala. Since 1962, Kampala has suffered war after war, no stable governments or economic growth till recently, which Nairobi has never suffered.
Nairobi is tourist driven, and has been for the longest. That is why you will find more of different races of people that have lived there pre and post colonial times. I find that Kampala after the numerous periods of political instability and economic decline, has made great strides to develop itself. Of course Uganda as a whole being located close to both Kenya and Tanzania that have been stable since independence, has benefitted a great deal in emulating the economic growth of both countries.
I find it funny that it had to be Oshay, someone not from Uganda to be the one that is more knowledgeable about Uganda's past political turmoil and the general position it is in now, which is reflective of Kampala in relation to Nairobi. But that Ugandan guy on the panel was only there to try and impress the women by making puerile claims of having money! Ha ha ha. Some men seriously need to grow up.
This is a good show. Way better than Pearlythings culture vulturing nonsense.
I’m really hoping to visit Uganda someday. I’m a Kenyan and I love Uganda so much 😊
You are welcome dear
Am Kenyan and I've been to Uganda once. Was en-route to Rwanda. So I crisscrossed the entire of country from Malaba Border to Mbarara. Uganda is a beautiful country.
And thank you for the compliments on my motherland 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪
Thank dear for appreciate come back again😘
Clearly this was one sided, just to shit on Uganda
Come back and we conquer East Africa together ❤😅
You shouldn't overlook the security in Kampala. As a Kenyan i felt a lot safer in Kampala (Nakawa region) when I went out to a couple of clubs. Shocking to see private security guards with guns. It's a lot more rustic but and less developed but a lot more relaxed and people are super friendly and welcoming.
I am a 58 year old Ugandan born in Uganda but raised and educated mostly as an exile in Kenya. Kenya is clearly more advanced in infrastructure & sophistication and has always been. Uganda's major weakness is landlocked-ess but it makes up for it with the climate and the food and leisure industries, the amazing geography and scenery, the lower cost of living. The two sisters countries should really be one.
All Africa countries are good it depend on how you want to live you life style
True dear
The take away from this is that UGANDA has more organic while KENYA is neo colonized. Thank you for the help.
No. We are just progressing. We should always strive for a developed Africa but still maintain our culture, which we do.
Lmao. Organically poor
@@MrJairforceYou talk like you feed anyone in Uganda...i can bet many Ugandans are richer and live a better life than you will EVER!
@@xbeatjoerespect thank you finally someone understands 💯💯
Ilove your thoughts
As a Ugandan I wish Nairobi to keep growing never to go back.Kampala is developing I believe by next year it will also be one of the best
When I visited Kenya last year I had an absolute blast!
am a kenyan living near uganda boarder at mount Elgon. Uganda is home to me.
Electricity is not a problem the further you move out of the center in Nairobi… only issue is traffic if you work in town.. otherwise if you don’t have to be in town everyday then outskirts are better.. there is everything there now… good internet, water electricity and cheaper housing
I'm a kenyan living in Uganda.. and my 2 main challenges with UG is internet infrastructure and lack of taxi services..the likes of uber...but I understand why... the economy is still coming up...Great people in UG too... and amazing culture...
😳😳😳 there is no Uber in Uganda ..what Uganda are you in
I doubt there are 2 ugandas...8 years and counting...
No ubers.....you live in a cave???
@@milarsejemba313 apparently... some leveling up needed here😅
@@mosesogutu9935 Hope you will level up on your way to heaven too, i mean, life is what you make it, some of us live the simplest of life...we dont stress, you wanna stress coz you can't find a uber, thats your problem...for example i know alot of non uber drivers who are a call away !
I am Ugandan. Having had the privilege of living & working in cities like Cape Town, Nairobi, Johannesburg, Kigali and Kampala, all I can say is given Uganda's disadvantageous geographical position, for Kampala (with all its chaos) to occasionally be in the same conversations alongside "continent heavy weights" is a small promising win for Ug.
I find that Nairobi and Kampala (given their broad contrasts) tend to have quite a number of baseline similarities their main difference, in my opinion, simply being geographical positioning (which has a major knock-on effect). Economically speaking, as one commenter pointed out, if you swapped the positions of both countries, we start having these same conversations and comparisons all over again in 50 years time with the keywords "Nairobi" and "Kenya" swapped for "Kampala" and "Uganda". Or even another way to view it is add another country to the east of Kenya (basically land lock Kenya) and you start to see the numbers go down there as well.
Uganda is that shabby kid in the family that everyone makes fun of but still takes some liking to for some reason. Being in the center of the region, Uganda enjoys direct 1-on-1 (bar Burundi) border relations with all EA states.
Kenganda, I'd actually love a video "comparing" landlocked countries on the continent. Below is a contestable claim from Chat-GPT ("economic ranking of land locked countries in Africa")
"According to the International Monetary Fund's (IMF) World Economic Outlook Database from October 2021, here are the top five landlocked countries in Africa ranked by GDP per capita:
Botswana - $8,908
Uganda - $1,076
Zambia - $1,015
Zimbabwe - $889
Burkina Faso - $794"
As a digital nomad, I loooove both countries I feel like I cannot exist without the other. I see them as one.
To answer the question. Starting out coming from the Diaspora, Nairobi ticks most of the boxes as a safe landing, however, I've noticed as well a few expats that overtime end up preferring Kampala.
Much love East Africa ❤ Tuko Pamoja ✊
Uganda and Kenya are one, I love you my brother, thanks for the insights
Kenya and Uganda is actually one country! You can throw Tanzania in there too. I grew up in Kenya and spent time in Uganda going to school and lived in TZ. I personally don’t see any difference between these 3. They’re one.
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some people are so ignorant honestly. I cant believe someone has the nerve in this day and age to wave that nonsensical gdp flag in our faces. Gdp is western bullshit that was invented to demoralize so called third world countries. Its like ranking children in a class telling them you are number 1, you are number 2, 6, 9, 17, 28 etc because you scored this on that test and that on this test. Do you seriously think all children have the same capabilities. A child can fail in math, english, geography etc yet be very gifted in other faculties. it's stupid to tell someone you are number 35 or number 67 just because they dont measure up to your standards of success. African standards of success/prosperity/progress cannot be measured with the yardstick of western ideals.
Uganda's problems are leadership related
I am a Kenyan who has been living in Kampala for the last 10 years and over these years has had the privilege to visit the whole of Uganda. I agree with many of the observations and comments made. I strongly believe that security wise living in Kampala one feels more safer than in Nairobi generally.
Thank you feel at home in Uganda
indeed Nairobi is a developed city compared to Kampala however in term of cost of leaving for a common person Kampala is more affordable with little money you can still survive in Kampala again when you look at the Uganda shilling is stable while Kenya shilling is depreciating at faster rate with high fuel price compared to Kampala
I have been in both countries but I prefer Kenya because is more organized than Uganda.
Definitely agreed
yeah that's what's uuuuup bruh....SALUTE.
Uganda is cheaper
@29Munnyo Yes got better roads
@29Munnyo UGANDA IS 30yrs behind and that's the fact.
My advice go to uganda if you want to.make money less competition when you compere with kenya
Im a Kenyan, I have lived in Kampala for a year and I totally loved it.
I am Kenyan and given the opportunity i will choose Uganda as my second home... to invest and live
Nairobi's topography gives it upperhand. I love my Uganda though.
This panel needed a historian too, and Oshay mentioned Uganda's history of past wars! In Uganda, we have a lot to catch up with in terms of development. Kenya is miles ahead because they didn't lose time fighting useless wars. Plus Kenya is on the Indian ocean coast, while Uganda is landlocked ❤
Absolutely nobody will remove my Love in Uganda! the weather, the love, the drama, the laughter, the food and the women ......we are unmatched
Key word #WOMEN 😂
The drama🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hawkins7000 yes the drama
Yeah & being dictated by that PUNK M7🤣🤣🤣🤣UGANDA is doomed
🏃🏃the women😺😺
Impossible I have stayed in Nairobi but Kampala is way better in terms of food, security
Food in UG is plenty. I bought very nice bread in the supermarket al9ng Ggaba Road, bread that would cost an arm and a leg in Nairobi. At Ggaba Beach, fish was so delicious and massive compared to Kenyan samaki. Food is yummy in UG.
Business is slow. I couldn't buy an airtel sim card because the govt had banned sale of new sim cards. Can you imagine such a scenario in Nairobi? There would be riots!
Kabalagala Red District was lively. Morning came too soon!
I enjoyed this it was a really informative show. It seems like East Africa is blowing up with a ton of opportunities.
Agree
Cheap living costs in Uganda, hosts millions of refugees from East Africa and beyond, students from all over Africa and beyond Kenya inclusive come for education in Uganda, security is good in Kampala evident by the safe night life, ofcouse the vibe is waaw❤❤ with loving and hospitable people. Don't forget it's a landlocked country but still does great,,, with ofcouse amazing weather, food and climate. I love Kenya for good transport means.
Am a Kenyan....
But there's NO place like uganda as an investor right now.
Alot of money to be made
Ukweli
I visited Uganda,.went to a hotel for a cup of tea at around 11and I was told breakfast is over ...we are preparing lunch😂😂😂😂what?in Kenya you get tea anytime
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 truly hiyo ni hatari
Kenya is more developed with very high cost of living, Uganda 's cost of living is fair , affordable, with plenty of food, easily adoptable,they were welcoming,once you step to Ugandan soil,you cease to be a foreigner,if you have your money,you can start up your business,buy land build a house etc That's The pearl of Africa,Uganda.
You've said it correctly, we welcome everyone
It’s because of political Chaos but other than that Uganda is a vibe…and they are very interesting people in many ways
Wama thank you ❤
I recently relocated my family into Uganda 🇺🇬 Kampala.
The most I liked in Uganda 🇺🇬 people are very respectful.
Treat you smoothly and polite way.
Uganda is more hospitable...thats a + for me
Kenya have a coast so things will be cheaper, Uganda is land locked so it’s probably harder to acquire inventory …. Sounds like a opportunity to expand on
two different countries. A lot off times people tend to forget Kenya's strength is its people and is what sets its apart from other eastafrican countries really. They are "hard-headed" which helps with resilience to setbacks and barriers pushing them to find solutions or by-passing walls however ridiculous the means might be.
Jackson, i like the way he presents his ideas. He is an intelligent man clarifying on the most important aspects about life situations and issues world-wide that are very crucial. Am a Ugandan happy to have him in the country. Best regards for him
Uganda just needs to change their governance system by making sure they reduce the presidential term limit. This will give room for new ideas, new energy and also put a sitting president under pressure to want to leave a legacy knowing very well they won't be in power forever. Here in kenya for example, kibaki gave us free primary education and built us thika road as his legacy, uhuru built so many roads including the Nairobi expressway as something to be remembered for. Iam pretty sure Ruto is also working on something to be remembered for by the end of his regime. Unless Uganda follows these footsteps, you guys aren't coming out of that situation anytime soon!
ugandan are too week to remove him. thats why the are lagging behind. but at least they are not as backward as tanzania.
Uganda is not what u might think , it developed all round from North ,south ,East and West not only Kampala.
When we're done with Konza city, Tatu city and The Northlands city, Kenya will be 50years away from any other African country including most European and Asian countries.
Being an English teacher to foreigners mostly to non English speakers, many expressed that Uganda seemed more secure to live in. Nairobi is definitely fast paced and with a great economy. I lived in Kenya for 4yrs. Looks like you only made the comparisons between Nairobi and Kampala not Uganda and Kenya. You need to look at places like Entebbe, Jinja,.... etc where most foreign settlers live. Then Malindi, Machakos,.......
Thanx dear ...it ended up them only talking about the confusion in kampala ..
Nairobi's Insecurity is greatly exaggerated if I'm being honest.
@kenganda should do another extensive comparison
I lived in Kenya for 4 years too (uni) Yes, they have several better stuff, but when one lives in Kampala, you will come to appreciate the niceness of the place. Entebbe is beautiful and such relaxed. That is where I live when I am in Uganda. Night life in Ug is far far better
@@MilesSsembatya its as real as any other major city in the world but grossly exaggerated by the locals, i've felt more unsafe in some towns in the UK & Belgium than i've ever felt in over a decade of living in Nairobi.
I am interested in Kenya 🇰🇪
M Ugandan.Nairobi more developed than definately kampala tho never been dea.I love kenyan people.Thats a family to us all Ugandans😍
As a patriotic Ugandan, I'm grateful that we had that American and the Kenyan lady for the more balanced discussion they brought what we call perspective.Ugandans generally ara negative about there country forgetting where we are coming from plus we have no coast which makes business really hard. But I think you guys were really informative and Uganda has a lot of catching up to do so help us God.
I love kenya
Healthy comparison. Learn from each other.
One of the most informative episodes you guys have ever done! It was great to hear about things that also matter in regards to the motherland 🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🎯✅ #Salute #TeamKenganda #WeUp
Point of correction. Kileleshwa, Kilimani, westlands and the likes are middle class neighbourhoods... I live in Kileleshwa and we say people who live in Kyuna, Kitusuru, Spring valley are upper class, then you have the rich and the wealthy who live in Runda, Karen...
Same problem in Nigeria. You have to go to multiple stores in order to find a few basic needs. In addition, the stores are riddled with fake local and imported essential commodities, which I found shocking and dangerous. Something I never experienced living in 3 civilised nations of the world
Thank you. You guys have helped me made my decision on where to retire. 🎉🎉🎉
This is a great topic, I did a breakdown on my channel as well. Both countries have their strong points.🇰🇪❤🇺🇬
Hey brooooo
Great episode, I want a footprint in all corners of the continent and Uganda could be a contender. Originally I was only considering Rwanda as far as east Africa goes.
Rwanda is still a bet!
There are more Rwandese in Uganda than in Rwanda!!
@@Kiriza22than in rwanda
that girl kuhani. HER ACCENT is so beautiful.
African American LOVING your platform. Joanita what up chick?!
I find it very heart wrenching to hear such analysis about our country.After nearly 4 decades of someone being in power.
Many people don't see this. They think we just hate him for being a westerner
my dad was in primary school when museveni seize power in 1896.
my dad was just a boy. he completed primary, went to ghigh school, college, and finish
then he married my mom in 1996 & they birth us.
we went to kindergarten, primary, secondary, university and finish,
i then marry a wife she is now expecting and MUSEVENI is still in power.
uganda shame on you. remove him by force
@@fatmahnakazibwe5151What ve you done about it asides complaining?
@@milarsejemba313 I am not complaining, what i did was casting my vote hoping for change in 2021 but nothing changed for better, its just getting worse each day. What i am doing now is hustling to survive with my family.
Hey guys, ugandan living in Dk. Planning to move to Uganda in the future. Great work you are doing. Thank you God bless
Remember anything that goes to Uganda goes through kenya.. So practically Kenya is the father of Uganda
I am a Ugandan and i visited karen in Kenya and stayed for a few days but i was home sick 😔 uganda 🇺🇬 for life so easy for everything especially kampala its heaven on earth we will develop slowly 🐌
We do have sea food in Uganda. You just have to know the right places, plus I have to say it is quite expensive. I guess thats cause they have to compensate for all the transportation costs.
Where are the right places? for more than just fried Tilapia and Nile Perch. I haven't seen a shrimp in over two years 😕
@@Silverbackugx Try out Hickory, or stone haven both are located in Kololo. The Seven Seas Restaurant Sheraton or the laughing lobster. You'll definitely find something nice.
@@muhumuza134 thanks for the info brother.👍🏿
@@Silverbackugx 😂😂when you start bringing shrimps and octopus and oysters that's not for us ..we don't eat alot of sea foods that's y ...if you want it you will find it at 5 star hotels that's best recommendation .
Why didn't you guys talk about communication?
Some of those small towns in Rwanda are pretty good too. Not everyone wants mega cities like Nairobi.
Which small towns in Rwanda? Kigali is already too small
Facts, I'm from Nairobi but, I prefer a laid back place
I love my city Nairobi....
Each has it's own positives and negatives, none is better
Amazing conversation, very informative and highlights the real issues and opportunities Kampala and Nairobi holds
I am Kenyan and I am embarrassed coz I have never visited Uganda. I am taking a bus to Kampala next month coz I will be working at Busia..Kenya /Uganda border.
I visited some time back, and I fell in love with the weather. I honestly think they have the best weather!
Hit me up for cheap accomodation..
Karibu saana
Karibu saana Kampala
Haha 😆 don't be embarrassed dear we all want to be in there esp I want to get a chance to get to Kenya one day
Supermarket meat and chicken bro in uganda we eat fresh meat and chicken u buy a live on from the market and it’s cut and cleaned on spot not that frozen staff which tends to go bad at times try moving more get local friends
Yes Uganda has more fresh food
Exactly I've never bought meet from the supermarket , that freezed meat I don't think it even tastes well
I lived in Kenya - Nairobi (Near that fancy Karen) for 4 years and ofcourse I lived in Kampala longer. I would say, it's not fair to compare Kampala with Nirobi. Kampala has a long way to go especially in transport, google maps, tech, and ofcourse classic business (especially with international trademarks)
However, when it comes to social life, KAMPALA IS KING. Kampala wins in Simplicity, easy maneuver, partying, entertainment and security. (Oh yes, downtown kla is very cheap, half a $ can give you a meal for an entire day)
If we talk about UGANDA Vs KENYA, its a different thing. First of all, we take it back to history...crisis, wars, etc. Uganda has hosted refugees almost on anual basis...from Rwanda, From Congo till today, Millions from South Sudan etc. and these have affected the centralisation and distribution of resources to outside Kampala areas. HOWEVER, EDUCATION IN UGANDA has been more and more competivie. Many kenyans came to study in ug (as well as Tanzanias and Rwandans) Uganda is a land locked country, almost half of Kenya but it has such a pontential. It needs just some serious fixing and it could be an African hub. DON'T FORGET UGANDA IS BETTER IN SOCCER, VOLLEBALL ETC IN THE ENTIRE EAST AFRICA. (Kenya better at running and rugby)
Many stuff to compare...unlimited
Apart from eating at restaurants and drinking what activities can you do in Kampala 😅
Those who came to study in Uganda in the 2000s came because of cheaper costs, not quality. Since government started offering loans to all students those numbers are now insignificant
Excellent analysis guys. Love from Kenya
Can you do a video on food killing us in the U.S vs Uganda/Africa? Where I live we don’t have real farmer’s markets. Also, the organic fruits and vegetables are expensive, but small in size here. Love the podcast! Keep informing us 🤎🖤🤎
Original matoke go there take it
Tbh most people spray their crops in Uganda too
@@mikemike5973 Kenya too I hope people will go back to their old ways of farming.
Guys i like your show, actually am a kenyan working in south sudan but for sure whenever i reach kampala city, i get pissed to a level i would prefer government should construct a road thats passes outside the city. The mess inside their unbareable
I always wanted to shift to Kenya from Uganda. Happy for this conversation
Bye…😂😂
Safcom is ours, equity is ours,kcb is ours ,Naivas is ours kbl is ours .. competition is strong
KBL sio yetu, majority shareholder ni wa kutoka Italy....
I love Ugandans and the food! The mixture of rain and warmth was quite great for me coming from Nairobi, I could take a cold shower on a rainy day!
Areas of improvement -The roads are very narrow in Uganda, in Kenya even the non tarmarcked are wider. The public system in Kenya is clearly marked. For Uganda taxis/matatus can use different routes that's tricky for a visitor
The truth is that Kampala is still very rural, which is an embarrassment really. Meanwhile, the amounts of money collected by government in that city are simply insane!!!!!!
thank yuo. kampala is very rural and dirty looking. not as organized or clean as kenya. but it can be helped if they copy what kenya is doing. also museveni. he need to go right away. it is so embarassing
Kampala is not rural!! Rural areas are organised. Kampala is just disorganised and the leaders look for individual gains!
Kampala isn’t rural… it is just spread out on 21 hills.. secondly there is Entebbe, Jinja, fort portal, great places
Now i want to go to Kenya. Uganda, maybe for the future
uganda is the girl thats plain and need some touch ups & make ups to excite someone
kenya is the girl thats well put, has her shyte together - ie miss independent.
she dont come cheap so make sure you can afford her.
can you? no actually .... ken ya?
ken ya afford her?
And kenyans are crossing to Uganda..
I just love East Africa. Can’t wait to see high Uganda and Kenya🙏🏾🤲🏾
east africa so much better than west africa. i just love kenya, ethiopia, uganda rwanda burundi
so beautiful. tanzania is horrible
Uganda has better food and vibezz
In Uganda it's much more easier to open a business with very little capital. And the city is more business oriented than Nairobi.
I like the conversation. I have tested both countries i can say they're advantages and disadvantages. I have alot to say but i can text all i have to say.
I'm Kenyan I don't like going to the Nairobi CBD...
Same dear, same!
She is right about the music industry. You can go to the radio station and they will play one hundred Nigerian artist before they play one Kenyan artist lol...
I’ve been with Kenyan party goers and they are so demanding.. they will tell you to change songs all the time… ask for raggae music and all that.. the djs maybe play it safe.. in Uganda it’s the opposite, if you want English and nigerian songs , you have to go the high end expensive bars.. we have bars everywhere, in every corner, don’t like music go to another
Kenyans whi schooled in Uganda...St. Law Paris Palais....Le Getaue...😅....Uganda is definitely home..
Uganda problem is the President...Yes I said it. Kenya and Uganda should be doing business together and growing together. East Africa should one, not competing. We should have shared infrastructure and markets.
I would choose Kenya any day. Its much easier living here.... 😊
Many Kenyans prefer Uganda.. they never leave
No ..we love our Kenyan musicians., Khaligraph Jones ,sauti sol.,otilebrown ..wacha zako
The Kenyan lady is sort of eastland native perspectives. It doesn’t feel Nairobi I know. I’m relating more to the guys.
I too being a Kenyan living in Nakuru city. I don't like the busyness of Nairobi CBD either
I want to visit Uganda for a beautiful matoke dinner
I’m Kenyan but can’t do Nairobi or any busy city at all. Prefer country side.
Nairobi has bowling alleys in Sarit Centre, Village Market, Westgate.
It has go karting in Two Rivers and at the Carnival
As a somali. Brother who grow up in the nederlands i m right now living in Nairobi kenya for western american. You go to uganada pls. It is perfect for the educated American. Kenya is perfect to. We love it here in kenya i love kenya everthing is good looks like the west uganda is expensive butt if you can do it
And the way I want to run from Kenya...Jesus!
Am thinking of changing my mind...I never appreciated things in Kenya
This guy made Sure Americans don't confuse CBD (central business district) from Cbd in Pot!
The information given was topnotch. Great discussion.
I'm a Ugandan but Kenya is much better than Uganda. Things being cheap isn't a big deal In choosing where to stay
Go karting in Uganda is in Lubowa. ATV riding in Jinja. There are activities, just not as diverse and easily accessible. I think real estate is cheaper in Kenya, especially value for money. But food and bevs and entertainment are cheaper in Uganda. I didn't hear the intangibles mentioned much. Uganda seems more carefree and easygoing, but on the flip side, it is less organised and a lot more dysfunctional. Overall, i think Uganda has better security.
In my opinion about Kampala city appearance is largely based on most land being still in possession of individuals and families, yet they will not develop these places to city standard. Land policies have also played a huge role in slow progress of kampala city. Not sure how Nairobi city handles land ownership.. someone share. Been to kenyan borders next to uganda, and its mainly rural.
Very important point. Land tenure system is both a blessing and a curse for the development of kampala.
In Kenya especially Nairobi land is mainly bought on leasehold
Diamond Trust Bank is Kenyan bank
Real talk, this is what ears and souls need to feel
You guyz are all right on your own perspective, Kampala is more African than Nairobi
Does being African have to be associated with poverty and mediocrity ? Mental slavery is real
Eeeh!!! Katumba! The accent has changed ever since we left st law.....heennniwayyyy, nice to see you.
Nkugambye
All those things Gilbert is talking about Kampala don’t have enough demand.
People need to understand that the culture in nairobi is mostly restricted to nairobi, it is not the same everywhere in kenya. You can experience a much more laid back way of doing things at mombasa or kisumu.
TRANSLATED SYNOPSIS: What's great about Uganda is that Uganda is so bad that we have a hundred times more areas to improve than Kenya. And if you come here with a strong work ethic, you'll have an advantage cause few others share that ethic. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for Uganda! OK, I'll stop before someone punches me in the face. Uganda's strength is a sweeter, more modest and innocent populace, where making friends and acclimating is easier. I have met a handful of Kenyans in my life and travels, as well as a handful of Ugandans, and it's a monster slam dunk. I like Ugandans much better!
Wow... This was a great show thank you kenganda