That "but you won't leave " really infuriated me and it really got me thinking. The arrogance and assurance he had when he said that statement made me shiver in fear for that woman .😔😡
Hi guys it's very hard women are in trouble without fight /quarrel boom! !! indoda second wife kids or no kids the man will bring another lady in your house
We cannot endorse and cheer on show formats ie pay papgeld and the shaming of fathers who after the humiliation are supposed to wash off the stigma and become positive role models to the same kids and see this show as abusive. These formats are not helping anyone, they are riling up emotions for public reactions that keep advertisers happy.
@@caughtontape5829 we are talking about this show that humiliates women in the false name of polygamy. Go to moja love about papgeld to defend dead beat dads. Bye
@First 4 Ladie's B Camp I feel you but the democracy our parents died for is not all rosy. You are forced to accept things you don't agree with. Mseleku is an open womaniser using an old custom to woman surf but it is his right because the women he does it with knowingly married him inspite of.
I was gonna divorce this fool trust me 🤞 He is rude, arrogant He doesn't have respect for his wife, that lady has been through a lot you can tell. She's beautiful she can still make it without that abusive fool
The fact that Musa actually thinks of himself as an expert in polygamy is disgusting.. the thought that he takes pride in that shows how little he values himself . People reinvented this whole thing called love .. Musa I pray I meet you once .. trust me I do . Pity I'll never be in the situation of being dropped a bombed at by your or these petty men.
I don't understand why Zulu women allow this men to abuse them like this in the name of isiko/culture.. Isithembu no longer exists we live in a dangerous eras, having multiple partners it's risky ... Zulu ladies are so beautiful they don't deserve to be treated like this .. Tell Musa to come to Limpopo Giyani, he will curse the day he was born .. I hate this man with my everything, he's an enemy to women's happiness
The pain of polygamy people don't know how its feels nd I can promise man out there that this pain one day tables will turn they will experience the brutality.
The emotional pain & trauma y'all leave on vulnerable women is loathsome! tt woman's self-esteem & dignity is gone now...this is modern oppression of women and it's repulsing to watch.
This Mseleku guy, is rubbish. He is so cold, you can see the way he looks at this traumatized woman when she is crying. He is playing with people emotions, the wife was not even fore warned about this, everything happened so quick and she never had time to digest the news. This is barbaric and heartless 💔💔💔
I don't think women who know what they want in life would stand for this kind of humiliation and sh*t. Problem is that some were brought up whereby they were told that marriage is number one on bucket list and that u should persevere. Yoh shem dichila tse so di simolla go diragala, divorce then he can continue with what his heart wants💁♂️
Isithembu is not bad it's modern version is open relationships/marriages. I personally do not agree with it for myself though. I see the approach of this show being the one that is abrasive and crass. How dare you as a man bring Mseleku and the concubine without first having discussed it with your wife. It is unfortunate that both Mzanzi and Moja love thrive on black shame and pain to make a profit. Their formats are insensitivelyp sensational just for ratings, the emotional irreparable damage they cause is a footnote of their concerns.
Poor women. I feel so sorry for them. I've never watched the show and never will, this is disgustingly painful. Oppression on women was done long time ago but nou, ijooooo.
Mselek is distroying marriages What happened to Ubuntu bethu of respecting and protecting our marriages Now the world will know the affairs of marriages .The husband the girlfriend know but the legally married wife is in dark Not fare at all Baba Mseleku must have a heart This is Abusive
Shouldn't women leave these men and go and find happiness somewhere ngempela. Coz knowing your husband wants a second wife will never sit well with you for the rest of your life. Coz clearly his not happy.
I'm not against isithembhu, but the level of emotional abuse these wife receive it's overwhelming. So they not just being mistreated by their husbands but it has to be on a national platform?? Hai emizi ikhuliswa ngobuhlungu ba banye shame
Guys mina I would divorce my husband early the next day sould he bring this nonsense to me and Mseleku nje ngeke ngize ngikhulume even a single word from me sophambana emnyango
I don't think that men understand the pain this is causing their wives. It looks like men are now showing their true colors of not being truthful. This is playing with people's feelings. It is a dream of every man to have an extra marital affair and even use it to manipulate women. I am waiting for a day when women will have the right to introduce their boy friends to their husband's "officially". Power...will hurt you!
Yeyeniiii... Inhlukumezo engaka kodwa yi kaka yonke lento. How can u do this to the woman u once said uyamthanda uma wengane zakho. Mseleku is an abuser self Im wondering ukuthi uthini unembeza se ba mbona ekhala u cstas jerrr.. Im hurt yaz ke nkampane ka nna lefetwa ka Setswana than to be unhappy
i wonder what s so special that holds these ladies like this . I mean for real you dont like something yet you sit back and listen and even accept to be formally introduced to another woman ..for real .some do this for financial security from men ,stability from men yet you can achieve all these on your own .ladies lets run away from being taken for granted .
This show degrades marriages and the true concept of Love within the guises of Culture and family extensions. If culture is this brutal and one sided, let those not convicted of it denounce it unvictimised and choose their pathway. Our kids and women are abused and raped by perverted man of a biased and immoral culture which disempowers women of their right to dignity, right to purity and right to choose their destiny. This is disgusting to see what Mnakwethu is doing to our beautiful women, sis maaaan 🙄
Oh my! This lady 's tears broke my heart when musa and the husband walked in eish this sthembu thing will be the end of us ai😢😏
I'm hurt kakhulu and theae men don't realize it at all .
I'm hurt kakhulu and these men don't realize it at all .
It hurts to see the lady cry profusely and the husband Is not even bothered 😕 😪 😢 😭
That "but you won't leave " really infuriated me and it really got me thinking. The arrogance and assurance he had when he said that statement made me shiver in fear for that woman .😔😡
Haibo umzwile yin iheeee ngimane ngathuka
Ihaba
I will marry soon…the pain I see in that woman’s face,I felt it…it’s one thing I will never do to my wife😔
Uya bona yin
Humiliating women this way is actually abusive. What would it require for Mzansi Magic to reconsider airing this?
Hi guys it's very hard women are in trouble without fight /quarrel boom! !! indoda second wife kids or no kids the man will bring another lady in your house
We cannot endorse and cheer on show formats ie pay papgeld and the shaming of fathers who after the humiliation are supposed to wash off the stigma and become positive role models to the same kids and see this show as abusive. These formats are not helping anyone, they are riling up emotions for public reactions that keep advertisers happy.
@@caughtontape5829 we are talking about this show that humiliates women in the false name of polygamy. Go to moja love about papgeld to defend dead beat dads. Bye
I don't like this show it destroys.
how his 2 of 4 wives threatened to leave if he takes wife no 5.
@First 4 Ladie's B Camp I feel you but the democracy our parents died for is not all rosy. You are forced to accept things you don't agree with. Mseleku is an open womaniser using an old custom to woman surf but it is his right because the women he does it with knowingly married him inspite of.
I was gonna divorce this fool trust me 🤞
He is rude, arrogant
He doesn't have respect for his wife, that lady has been through a lot you can tell.
She's beautiful she can still make it without that abusive fool
She's beautiful, she can find another man, who'll treat her right
These guys are acting lana. I don't believe them.
Same here.. The arrogance 🤮🤮🤮
Am so angry, he say keep quiet so we can talk.
Her only problem is she doesn't know how to fall out of love with this man.
Girls get the education. Jobs are hard to come by but you may get one. When you are employed, no one will say, " I know you wont leave"
Truth
Amen. Amen.
Kunjalo mantombazane
This is one of the things that will make the youth of today never to get married
Vele worse umuntu ekuhlambalaza phambi komhlaba wonke nje
You are right my dear
Imagine watching this show with your husband Kante in his mind his like "you'll also meet him one day"... This is actually quite sad
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😆 😂 🤣 Deep🙆🏾♀️🙇🏽♀️😑 This is sad actually 💔😭
😂😂😂
😁😁😁
🤣ei ngba fthi Abantu besilisa ngiyabong
Rhaaaaa how disrespectful is this man for saying, "she won't leave, as if her life is dependent on him." This is distraught on every level.
THIS SHOW MUST BE REMOVED FROM TELEVISION. ITS PAINFULL AND DISRESPECTING THE WIFE. PERIOD !
They're abusing women in front of the whole world
Please😒I don’t like it at all
I hate it shame seeing women cry like this it hurts angeke😒😒😒
True
Bra! Indenza naar🚮🤮
I bet if Musa is ever to get in my house, that will be his last episode ....nxiiiii
🤣🤣
Lol
I would pour him with hot boiling water
😂😂😂
@@palesamogorosi8939 ahhh why not
The fact that Musa actually thinks of himself as an expert in polygamy is disgusting.. the thought that he takes pride in that shows how little he values himself . People reinvented this whole thing called love .. Musa I pray I meet you once .. trust me I do . Pity I'll never be in the situation of being dropped a bombed at by your or these petty men.
The husband is just rude and arrogant.. "I know you will cry, say everything you want to say but you won't leave"
The nerve of that man 🙆🙆🙆🙆 hhai Bo he's so full of it Shem,it's like he the master and wife a puppet,
What rubbish is that, total disregard of his wife's feelings. Really arrogant.
I will never do this to my wife ay ngeke
Siyabonga bhuti!🙏🏽
syabonga
Thank you
Hhayi nami ngeke
Thank you
I don't understand why Zulu women allow this men to abuse them like this in the name of isiko/culture..
Isithembu no longer exists we live in a dangerous eras, having multiple partners it's risky ...
Zulu ladies are so beautiful they don't deserve to be treated like this ..
Tell Musa to come to Limpopo Giyani, he will curse the day he was born ..
I hate this man with my everything, he's an enemy to women's happiness
I hate how he thinks his the one who knows how a woman should carry herself that timehis from a woman
Yey sthandwa sam nath asazi
@@nonhlezama5476 😆 🤣 😂 mina the zulu girls I meet don't allow such
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Done 😂😂😂😂
😅😂🤣
The pain of polygamy people don't know how its feels nd I can promise man out there that this pain one day tables will turn they will experience the brutality.
Can a wife sue the show for emotional distress?
Good point
Yes, non patrimonial demage but there's a lot of technicalities
Lol
I think kufaneke sifunde uzikumela singabantu besfazane ngoba mesthembele koBaba basemzini yethu sizofa sibancane besale bona. Thina sife sishiye iyngane nosizi emhlabeni. Because lento abayenzayo it a silent killer that involve heart attach is equal = grave. Azize kuqala iyimpilo zethu nezeyngane zethu.
In this situation, just accept and start looking for the next love of your life because he will never stop
The emotional pain & trauma y'all leave on vulnerable women is loathsome! tt woman's self-esteem & dignity is gone now...this is modern oppression of women and it's repulsing to watch.
This is heartbreaking 💔 😢 itd better to stay single than this ayi ngeke bafe
This episode killed me as a woman,painful to the core men have no conscience this woman doesn’t deserve such 😢
The pain in her eyes breaks my heart💔💔
This Mseleku guy, is rubbish. He is so cold, you can see the way he looks at this traumatized woman when she is crying. He is playing with people emotions, the wife was not even fore warned about this, everything happened so quick and she never had time to digest the news. This is barbaric and heartless 💔💔💔
i hate musa mseleku and i want Mangwabe nd Mayen leave him
I am worried about the kids cause one day they will see their mothets tears .What lesson we teaching them .MaAfica Amahle
I wish they see it so they won't continue with this nonsense in the name of isiko in the next generation.
I've watched this 10times this is wrong 💔😭
Yooh shame man💔💔💔💔. Kwabuhlungu yazi. Ladies ake sifunde nokuzihlalela makunje.
Nalento yokuvuma into ongayithandi ayikho ryt ngoba suke zohlukumezeka wena laba abafikayo bafika nenkinga nje
Mseleku is degrading women and he is appalling man to do something like that .
Absolutely dreadful
Madoda asuke efuna isthembu umsekeku wenza umsebenzi wakhe kubuhlungu impela amadoda wona akopela izinto ezimbi njenge sthembu nje acele ubaba umsekeku ayowacelele kumakhoskazii awo
I swear these men do this for their ego... How do you say you love your wife and sit and watch her cry like that knowing you caused all that?
I don't think women who know what they want in life would stand for this kind of humiliation and sh*t. Problem is that some were brought up whereby they were told that marriage is number one on bucket list and that u should persevere. Yoh shem dichila tse so di simolla go diragala, divorce then he can continue with what his heart wants💁♂️
Ihhheh imali iyamshintsa umuntu😳😳😳uQinisela lona hhayi ngaze ngangakholwa kwaze kwangafana naye💔💔💔
Isithembu is not bad it's modern version is open relationships/marriages. I personally do not agree with it for myself though. I see the approach of this show being the one that is abrasive and crass. How dare you as a man bring Mseleku and the concubine without first having discussed it with your wife. It is unfortunate that both Mzanzi and Moja love thrive on black shame and pain to make a profit. Their formats are insensitivelyp sensational just for ratings, the emotional irreparable damage they cause is a footnote of their concerns.
This is not open, it’s oppressive because it’s only open on the man’s side all these women must be faithful to this one man who can do as he pleases
@@andiswamlima Do you honestly believe these women stay loyal?
Poor women. I feel so sorry for them. I've never watched the show and never will, this is disgustingly painful. Oppression on women was done long time ago but nou, ijooooo.
You can see the hurt and pain in her tearful eyes 💔
kuyazwela tjo
It's the guy clapping his hand for me😂😂😂😂
Akujabulisi ukubona Mseleku kwabuhlungu okwalosisi waze wadabukisa bakithy😪😪🤞
Leyo yiyo ebizwa kuthiwa yiGender Based Violence esiyebheka lapha. Sibheke amadoda amabili ehlukumeza owesifazana kodwa sihleli sibhekile siwumphakathi.
Emotional abuse
😂😂The best show that humbles women in this country.
Broooo women hate this show and that's why I love it
This hurts yoh💔 I feel her pain
I think one thing that would make Mseleku quit doing this show is if/when he would often come across oMamkhulu abazogiva yena ...
Mselek is distroying marriages
What happened to Ubuntu bethu of respecting and protecting our marriages
Now the world will know the affairs of marriages .The husband the girlfriend know but the legally married wife is in dark
Not fare at all
Baba Mseleku must have a heart
This is Abusive
Gogo skhotheni benimsola angisho kuhle uma kuzwiswa umuntu awesifazane ubuhlungu lungisa I country wena skhotheni
Shouldn't women leave these men and go and find happiness somewhere ngempela. Coz knowing your husband wants a second wife will never sit well with you for the rest of your life. Coz clearly his not happy.
Ai ngoba he's not happy some men are selfish, greedy, love having multiple women. This is just narcissistic behavior.
I'm not against isithembhu, but the level of emotional abuse these wife receive it's overwhelming. So they not just being mistreated by their husbands but it has to be on a national platform?? Hai emizi ikhuliswa ngobuhlungu ba banye shame
This man is rude 💔 ukhuluma kanjan naye Lona
Yaz ingane zabantu ziphila kabhlungu because of idiotic cowards😡, I am a man but I'll never approve polygamy nor polyandry
Very painful show, and uMr Xaba akakhombisi ukuzwelana nomkakhe.....
Umuhle kakhulu Mamah, umyeni wakho uyozisola 1day.
Guys mina I would divorce my husband early the next day sould he bring this nonsense to me and Mseleku nje ngeke ngize ngikhulume even a single word from me sophambana emnyango
I don't think that men understand the pain this is causing their wives. It looks like men are now showing their true colors of not being truthful. This is playing with people's feelings. It is a dream of every man to have an extra marital affair and even use it to manipulate women. I am waiting for a day when women will have the right to introduce their boy friends to their husband's "officially". Power...will hurt you!
This is so disrespectful to women, shame women are going through a lot shame💔
As she's crying m also crying 😢 emotionally so
If you need another man to help you tell your wife you want umamncane,how you going to handle it after he is gone
Yeyeniiii... Inhlukumezo engaka kodwa yi kaka yonke lento. How can u do this to the woman u once said uyamthanda uma wengane zakho. Mseleku is an abuser self Im wondering ukuthi uthini unembeza se ba mbona ekhala u cstas jerrr.. Im hurt yaz ke nkampane ka nna lefetwa ka Setswana than to be unhappy
Eish this is difficult because these men always have roll ons ☹☹☹☹ life is unfair eish
Mseleku is very selfish,he saw the pain on that womans face and yet he continued to smile as if its nothing,womans feelings dont matter at all
These women are scared of Musa mxm they agree to things because he's there and they feel coerced..
The look on her face said it all wow!!! Musa he’s driving this bus of isthembu .😡
The pain though..they don't care nje
Yeeeeey shame💔💔💔💔
i wonder what s so special that holds these ladies like this . I mean for real you dont like something yet you sit back and listen and even accept to be formally introduced to another woman ..for real .some do this for financial security from men ,stability from men yet you can achieve all these on your own .ladies lets run away from being taken for granted .
It's the entrance for me😢😂😂
This guy doesn’t love her
This is heartbreaking. Normalising this is so wrong🙁
This thing is so pain fully and stress ,hmmm I Always cry if I watching it.
It like me. Yoooh
Hayi nkosiyam ndanceda ndangumxhosakazi ezinye izithethe ziyabahlukumeza abantu abanqileyo😢
"This Is An AMBUSH, 'Kahleni MAGENTS"
Hayi Mseleku uyisitha sabafazi manje,Uma bekubona bavele bakhale xem,ubala lolu sisi wami
I just want to hug her. Shame man😞😢
This guy was supposed to hug her to cool her down and wipe her tires😭😭
This is soo painful and male gender don't understand it's better to be single than being in this mess
I'm crying I don't know why..eyi pain
m I the only one who notices the soft spot on Mseleku for this lady.
I think so🤔
men and power, match made in heaven 😍😍😍
Wamuhle uMamkhulu.
Ai, no man!!! Sebete sa monna, ka se tshaba!😭
Yhu, this guy saying “ … you can’t leave…” 😶🌫️
Gaze ngayizonda Indoda😭😭
Ai lento nje udoti
I cry this is very painful nooo man
The kind of reaction we expect from women in this. Not the ones abenza ngathi abazi kwenzakalani
Isthembu is a way of sugar coating ubufebe beslisa ngoba mengase umama kuthiwe uyalamanisa hhhowu angaxoshwa kwakxoshwa emzin.
Im crying with her
Uphi usecond part of episodes?nalomntu uzokucelelwa ?
Kazi uthola malini uMseleku ngokwephula izinthliziyo zabantwana bethu ngalomsebenzi wakhe
Yaa this is abuse in the name of culture. Sori my sister.
Yabona ukuthembela endodeni financially kwenza ukuthi ikudelele
But sometimes I feel like it's not a reality, they are just acting because most of the time their reasons are just a joke, not valid
the women who raise this kind of men they have failed them you can cry but you cant live wooow fellow women whats going on kantu
Sad hey..... They will never be another Tryphina
I will be more than Tryphina my Sister tust me I will never stand this humiliation and abuse from a person who vowed to love and take card of me
This man ave enesibindi athi ngeke uhambr ayiiii neva
Uphi omnye u half wale episode?
Sanibonani engingakusho labantu //males ngoba indoda uma umntu wayo weqiniso ekhala noma etshengisa kuthi kubhlungu akaqhubeki lamadoda awanalo uthando uma umsulwa uyindoda uyifakelan enyindoda kwakho yena wabiza bani wonke lamadoda abiza Mseleku alahlwa onembeza awaphendule umbuzo BONENI LAMANINA KUNI THETHANI INYANI SUNUXHAPHAZA AMANINA NDIKUSO MNA ISTHEMBU AYI KANJE NIDLALA UKURHALA QHA NOKUDELELA NATHI MASINGAVUMELI YONKE NTO LE NO MEANS NO MBOKODO NGIKSONA NAM KODWA ZANGE ABIZE MSELEKU WAZLUNGISELA NDABA ZAKWAKHE AKBONA UB DODA KBIZENYINDODA KWAKHO UYINKUZI YENYAN SNGAPHELA SUKA NDIKUSO ISTHEMBU SUNUDLALAMADODA QHA QWABA KE NDITSHO NDILIHLUBIKAZI
This is bullshit nje nonsense...they hurting those women without remorse this is crazy nd disgusting
Yoh this man is rude💔💔
This show degrades marriages and the true concept of Love within the guises of Culture and family extensions. If culture is this brutal and one sided, let those not convicted of it denounce it unvictimised and choose their pathway. Our kids and women are abused and raped by perverted man of a biased and immoral culture which disempowers women of their right to dignity, right to purity and right to choose their destiny. This is disgusting to see what Mnakwethu is doing to our beautiful women, sis maaaan 🙄
I feel for these women, makhosikazi hey even if lisiko eli women are being abused ngaba Tata bathanda abafazi
Being a woman maarn yhooo💔💔💔
Yhoo Mseleku undermines women's pain, saying they should have a whatsapp group.
This poor lady 💔💔☹️
nami bengitokhala xerm ....umfati lomuhle kangaka kufunekani emadodeni bandla
Yazi amadoda so mmm💔💔💔
This is one of the reason I don't believe in marriage.
Nxa ay ayeyisa lamadoda nezintomb zawo muntu meza endoden egqoke iring kweyisa nje shidi man
Ooh hayi maan 😥
Kodwa Lo engineer wes thembu uyahlukumeza angifuni ukungasho 💔😒🤞🏽