Hey UA-cam! I actually put this up Nov 2021 but didn't like the production and kept it private. But after some conversations with other techs in the PDR community I'm just going to make it public. Sad story, a perp stole my video gear so I lost a bit of fire for making any content. Hope it helps peeps out there that are trying to decide which to get. Take care!
Hey Pak, another great informative video, sorry to hear about your stolen video gear, but don't let it stop you making content as your content is high quality and really enjoyable. I'm still just using my old iphone to make my videos! 😂 Shame you live so far away, would love to pop by and try my hands at using a Stanliner, have a great weekend. Jake 👍
Hi Jake, thanks for watching again. You content is amazing and even more so knowing you shoot it with an iPhone. I have gotten a little carried away but it's a good chance to pare things down to make content creation easier. Could be silver lining. It is a shame, would love to meet you in person one day. I love how clear your videos are, you have become the benchmark!
@@VanDentPro Thanks Pak, living in the UK and not having a workshop I have a lot of days where I get rained off, so I work from home where I get a lot of enjoyment honing my editing skills and it makes me feel like I am still working even though it is hammering with rain outside! Likewise, would love to catch up one day and talk all things Stanliner and PDR!
I have been using a (M48-PT) mirror polished tip at the end of a rod with a similar bend, been working for me. I guess it would be a good investment for you younger guy's. Too rich for me. Thanks for sharing,
Hey thanks for watching, I have a setup like you mention too. To me PDR is about nuances just like many artful crafts (hands, mind, heart). I have a fender 1/2" interchangeable tip rod and used Dent Craft mushroom tips with it. It was a good setup but not nearly the same. I always go to this fixed fender tool when I have adequate access for productivity and to apply the stanliner techniques. The cost is easily recovered on any of the dents I showed on this video and I repair much worse than what's shown in these examples every week. BTW the polished M48-PT is one of the best blending tips for interchangeable tip hammers for general side panel damage.
So many situations with all the different vehicles and angles. I can understand it would be difficult to make a solid tool that works for everything. There are new fender tools that do as you describe!
My body shop friend, loaned me a wurth lifter. He taught me that I need get more tools. I live in northern Canada. I'm asking for help to tool up with knock downs/ hammers, and a few of the favorites for pushing.
Hey John. Tools and training or atleast some guidance is recommended and will increase your chances to get PDR. To begin with self-practicing all you really need is a practice panel, 1 tool, knockdown/ hammer, and a light source is what you'll need. First step is mainly about getting coordinated with tool in hand and coordinating that with what you see with PDR lights / reflection.
If you're into the Stanliner techniques I'd recommend getting a universal 1/2" pirate hook. I can push sharp and soft and it can roll a little and drag (so alot of techniques on 1 tool). Start with a sharp and soft delrin or peek knockdown and a hammer to hit could be anything like an inexpensive bodyhammer (just choke up on the handle to lessen the blow). You will need more tools when you move from the practice panel to live vehicles, but for now that'll do. You need proper adjustable PDR light, that will be the most expensive thing. You can get new stuff in Canada from a couple suppliers like canadentools.ca/ and www.denttools.ca. Stanliner tools like the universal pirate hook can be purcahsed at www.stanlinertools.com/collections/pirate-hook/products/pirate-hook-4. These companies ship from Canada currently so it'll save you alot of hidden costs from buying cross border. Buying not many but quality tools will give a better chance to get over the hurdle. PDR isn't going to be easy to start on your own so try to join a helpful community or look for training.
@@VanDentPro I thank you for responding. I have a fleet of vehicles, to practice on. I have been looking at dcc pdr for tools. As I am going to gain more experience. To be honest, I can get about 60% through the appearance. Some are easy, but some just don't work out. I can appreciate any help you might offer.
@@johnyaceyko9775 Anytime John. That's great you get live cars to work on and congrats on how far you've come along. Personally, I like to seperate factors and focus one thing at a time. Dents found in the wild on panels are usually in inconvenient places. I'm sure you know. Live cars can introduce alot of factors that might cause confusion. One of the points of working on practice panels is to advance your light positioning and reading. To me this is a key fundamental, you will run into for deep dents and for finishing to 100%. I have a couple practice panels in my shop just for trying new things out. Just like in sports, we train in practice before the game. You sound like you're on your way and already in the game. Congrats.
Thanks for the compliment Curtis, nice to hear from a fellow BC resident! We don't have any phyical stores in BC that offers PDR specific tools, but you can try online retailers. There's DCC tools, Canadent Tools, Stanliner tools, Keco Canada, and CamAuto - these all ship from Canada. I think you can find everything you need there for Canadian techs. If you need something really specific you can try the US stores but be prepared for duties, broker fees and taxes after shipping costs. Good luck and don't be shy to ask questions!
Hey Joshua, I put it together from stuff I already had. It's a photography friction arm, mine is manfrotto and the claw is Ram mount product. I think the get a grip version maybe Less expensive and already put together, but I already had these parts.
I used a prop rod available form propdr. It’s a modified drywall jack or cargo jack and just a rope ratchet. The combo of pushing and pull did the trick. Thanks for watching 🤙
Thank you for videos! The large fender tool is amazing and also a fan of the pirate hook but I feel there needs to be a bit more of a bend on it. Just got the rolling spoon and actually used it on a motorcycle fender for my first try with it and love it! Been thinking about trying some crane or snakes but I need to check out more videos on them first. I saw you say that you have an adjustable handle on a Stanliner, any issues?? I bought some attachments to convert mine to adjustable handles but have been hesitant to chop the handles off lol
For sure on all those accounts. About the pirate hook, I think it's really misunderstood. I use it quite a bit in hatches and doors off the car with that particular design it's like a super heavy duty bend flag tool! Saves me all the time.
Crane and snakes are really staples and will allow the drawing and small rolls in other directions than the tools in this video. Worth a consideration 👍
As for cutting handles. I would say of you don't plan to use the particular tool where you need a really solid connection then go for it. Dedicated door tools are great idea to make them adjustable. For spoons and killer whales etc, I wouldn't personally. Using those tools for dragging, samurai and rolling I would regret going to adjustable handles. Any little bit of slop would be really annoying and I would feel loss of accuracy similar to a overly flexible rod. In my opinion.
Hi straight lines. I mainly use Robolites from Steve Lacey (also sold through Druz). I really like the wide fade on them and how they mix the warm, cool and RGB led strips. In one of the videos I had a Stuckey XL, but I find that light is more for finishing / hail. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the demo of the killer fender tool and explaining the nuances 😁Since the head is smooth and polished,what is the reason for glue on the head🤔 Can't wait for more videos.Peace
@@victoragresti1777 about the glue on the smooth large face. It's to further soften the contact patch. For the type of pushing I did on the white Lexus HSS fender. It was pretty extreme pushout, so I wanted ensure that I didn't make really nasty outies on the max power pushes. The other reason is that the head on the fender tool is fixed so depending on the angle I may have not been on the flattest part of the tool head. These are important nuances which is important for PDR
Hey UA-cam! I actually put this up Nov 2021 but didn't like the production and kept it private. But after some conversations with other techs in the PDR community I'm just going to make it public.
Sad story, a perp stole my video gear so I lost a bit of fire for making any content.
Hope it helps peeps out there that are trying to decide which to get.
Take care!
Hey Pak, another great informative video, sorry to hear about your stolen video gear, but don't let it stop you making content as your content is high quality and really enjoyable. I'm still just using my old iphone to make my videos! 😂 Shame you live so far away, would love to pop by and try my hands at using a Stanliner, have a great weekend. Jake 👍
Hi Jake, thanks for watching again. You content is amazing and even more so knowing you shoot it with an iPhone. I have gotten a little carried away but it's a good chance to pare things down to make content creation easier. Could be silver lining. It is a shame, would love to meet you in person one day. I love how clear your videos are, you have become the benchmark!
@@VanDentPro Thanks Pak, living in the UK and not having a workshop I have a lot of days where I get rained off, so I work from home where I get a lot of enjoyment honing my editing skills and it makes me feel like I am still working even though it is hammering with rain outside! Likewise, would love to catch up one day and talk all things Stanliner and PDR!
@@1st_track_dents We have a seriously wet climate too. Raincouver. Glad to see your expertise is paying off on both fronts.
Well done my friend thank you
Thanks for the visit
Awesome video of stanliner spoon tools that’s what’s really I need for which tools I need for the most thx a lot
Thank you for watching. I would say the large fender tool and killer whale would be the first to get.
I have been using a (M48-PT) mirror polished tip at the end of a rod with a similar bend, been working for me. I guess it would be a good investment for you younger guy's. Too rich for me. Thanks for sharing,
Hey thanks for watching, I have a setup like you mention too.
To me PDR is about nuances just like many artful crafts (hands, mind, heart).
I have a fender 1/2" interchangeable tip rod and used Dent Craft mushroom tips with it. It was a good setup but not nearly the same. I always go to this fixed fender tool when I have adequate access for productivity and to apply the stanliner techniques.
The cost is easily recovered on any of the dents I showed on this video and I repair much worse than what's shown in these examples every week.
BTW the polished M48-PT is one of the best blending tips for interchangeable tip hammers for general side panel damage.
can the m48-pt be used for rolling out a crease on a fender
@victor : I don’t think that would be possible with any kind of control
Great video. Thank you sir.
Cool.. glad it was helpful
Always helpful.
I would be nice if it hooked down more and had more lower angle pressure , to get in those tight edges.
So many situations with all the different vehicles and angles. I can understand it would be difficult to make a solid tool that works for everything. There are new fender tools that do as you describe!
My body shop friend, loaned me a wurth lifter. He taught me that I need get more tools. I live in northern Canada. I'm asking for help to tool up with knock downs/ hammers, and a few of the favorites for pushing.
Hey John. Tools and training or atleast some guidance is recommended and will increase your chances to get PDR. To begin with self-practicing all you really need is a practice panel, 1 tool, knockdown/ hammer, and a light source is what you'll need. First step is mainly about getting coordinated with tool in hand and coordinating that with what you see with PDR lights / reflection.
If you're into the Stanliner techniques I'd recommend getting a universal 1/2" pirate hook. I can push sharp and soft and it can roll a little and drag (so alot of techniques on 1 tool). Start with a sharp and soft delrin or peek knockdown and a hammer to hit could be anything like an inexpensive bodyhammer (just choke up on the handle to lessen the blow). You will need more tools when you move from the practice panel to live vehicles, but for now that'll do. You need proper adjustable PDR light, that will be the most expensive thing. You can get new stuff in Canada from a couple suppliers like canadentools.ca/ and www.denttools.ca. Stanliner tools like the universal pirate hook can be purcahsed at www.stanlinertools.com/collections/pirate-hook/products/pirate-hook-4. These companies ship from Canada currently so it'll save you alot of hidden costs from buying cross border. Buying not many but quality tools will give a better chance to get over the hurdle. PDR isn't going to be easy to start on your own so try to join a helpful community or look for training.
@@VanDentPro I thank you for responding. I have a fleet of vehicles, to practice on. I have been looking at dcc pdr for tools. As I am going to gain more experience. To be honest, I can get about 60% through the appearance. Some are easy, but some just don't work out. I can appreciate any help you might offer.
@@johnyaceyko9775 Anytime John. That's great you get live cars to work on and congrats on how far you've come along. Personally, I like to seperate factors and focus one thing at a time. Dents found in the wild on panels are usually in inconvenient places. I'm sure you know. Live cars can introduce alot of factors that might cause confusion. One of the points of working on practice panels is to advance your light positioning and reading. To me this is a key fundamental, you will run into for deep dents and for finishing to 100%. I have a couple practice panels in my shop just for trying new things out. Just like in sports, we train in practice before the game. You sound like you're on your way and already in the game. Congrats.
Great video. How hot do you run the heat on the panel? Thanks
For keeping paint pliable 130F, but for aluminum or bodyline 180-200F to help the metal move
hi there nice wrk im from the okanagan and cant seem to find any good pdr tools any ideas thanks
Thanks for the compliment Curtis, nice to hear from a fellow BC resident! We don't have any phyical stores in BC that offers PDR specific tools, but you can try online retailers. There's DCC tools, Canadent Tools, Stanliner tools, Keco Canada, and CamAuto - these all ship from Canada. I think you can find everything you need there for Canadian techs. If you need something really specific you can try the US stores but be prepared for duties, broker fees and taxes after shipping costs. Good luck and don't be shy to ask questions!
Where did you get the arm to hold your heat gun?
Hey Joshua, I put it together from stuff I already had. It's a photography friction arm, mine is manfrotto and the claw is Ram mount product. I think the get a grip version maybe Less expensive and already put together, but I already had these parts.
What device did you use to stabilize the fender on the SUV repair where you removed the headlight? Thanks -
I used a prop rod available form propdr. It’s a modified drywall jack or cargo jack and just a rope ratchet. The combo of pushing and pull did the trick. Thanks for watching 🤙
@@VanDentPro Thanks for the response. I found it on their website. Ordered the short and the long. Thanks again!
Anytime enjoy. It’s a solid tool
Thank you for videos! The large fender tool is amazing and also a fan of the pirate hook but I feel there needs to be a bit more of a bend on it. Just got the rolling spoon and actually used it on a motorcycle fender for my first try with it and love it! Been thinking about trying some crane or snakes but I need to check out more videos on them first.
I saw you say that you have an adjustable handle on a Stanliner, any issues?? I bought some attachments to convert mine to adjustable handles but have been hesitant to chop the handles off lol
For sure on all those accounts. About the pirate hook, I think it's really misunderstood. I use it quite a bit in hatches and doors off the car with that particular design it's like a super heavy duty bend flag tool! Saves me all the time.
Using the spoon in a tank would be awesome, I haven't had the chance yet. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Crane and snakes are really staples and will allow the drawing and small rolls in other directions than the tools in this video. Worth a consideration 👍
As for cutting handles. I would say of you don't plan to use the particular tool where you need a really solid connection then go for it. Dedicated door tools are great idea to make them adjustable. For spoons and killer whales etc, I wouldn't personally. Using those tools for dragging, samurai and rolling I would regret going to adjustable handles. Any little bit of slop would be really annoying and I would feel loss of accuracy similar to a overly flexible rod. In my opinion.
Hi what light are you using ?
Hi straight lines. I mainly use Robolites from Steve Lacey (also sold through Druz). I really like the wide fade on them and how they mix the warm, cool and RGB led strips. In one of the videos I had a Stuckey XL, but I find that light is more for finishing / hail. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the demo of the killer fender tool and explaining the nuances 😁Since the head is smooth and polished,what is the reason for glue on the head🤔 Can't wait for more videos.Peace
@@victoragresti1777 about the glue on the smooth large face. It's to further soften the contact patch. For the type of pushing I did on the white Lexus HSS fender. It was pretty extreme pushout, so I wanted ensure that I didn't make really nasty outies on the max power pushes. The other reason is that the head on the fender tool is fixed so depending on the angle I may have not been on the flattest part of the tool head. These are important nuances which is important for PDR
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