I also purchased this pedal set and, honestly, as soon as it arrived, the brake pedal didn’t feel right. Additionally, the signal was very limited, almost as if there was a physical blockage. Despite pressing hard, the signal range only went from 6000 to a maximum of 18000. So, I decided to study the pedal mechanism, the load cell, and the lever system. I noticed there was some play of a few millimeters between the plate and the ball on top of the load cell. Looking underneath the load cell, with the pedal flipped upside down, I found a set screw that could be tightened by at least two more turns. After making this adjustment, the feel improved immediately. The signal now ranges from 6000 to 32000, allowing me to fully utilize the load cell. I also replaced the stock spring right away with a 2 cm blue spring, adding an additional 2 cm spacer. As for the elastomers, I chose two blue ones, while I set the damper to 2/3. The only thing I don’t like is that the damper works in only one direction. I would have preferred if it also worked on the release, which would allow for more controlled trail braking.
You are a legend for producing such in-depth reviews! This is the review I've been waiting for. In the past, pedal upgrades from the main Chinese brands always reviewed as a positive upgrade. So considering these are supposed to be Simsonn's latest and greatest, I ordered the full set of the Pro X pedals and accessories about 2 weeks ago, including the added heel plate. So they're currently somewhere on a ship between China and Australia and I should have them in about 2-3 weeks. I am HANGING out. I returned a PXN v12lite bundle with pedals a few weeks ago. Unfortunately the DD base started developing a noisy fan after a couple of weeks which seems to be a common issue. Besides the crappy fans, the PXN v12lite. I loved it Wheel and base felt EXCELLENT. I took the set back just wanting a replacement but they had none left in stock after the $699 AUD Xmas specials and the wait was a few weeks. Moving on, I instead forked out $999 AUD just for a wheel, a Logitech G Pro, and to say I Looooove it is probably an understatment!. So after perusing some reviews of previous Simsonn and Simjack pedals, i decided upon these believing it would be another upgrade. I had no interest in the RGB at all until you made me aware that they can be used to show the amount of pressure used on the pedals. I'm happy with the review but a little taken back by your negative impression on the brake, however, I have 3 different strength springs from a recent SimRuito load cell handbrake purchase, and they are 30mm long and 27mm diameter which im hoping will fit. Fingers crossed. On a positive note, I'll fiddle with that Brake pedal til it's just right Thanks again for the exellent review. I'm still very much looking forward to getting the pedals as it's an absolute pain to try and race with the accelerator and brake bindings on the wheel only. Forgot toemtiom toy.fellow.Aussies that this full set with all the goodies cost me.$416 AUD.shipped (Roughly $263 USD shipped as of today's exchange rate) Thanks again brother.
I have to say the inclusion of a damper with an adjustable dial for me makes a pedal set much more versitile. Being able to move from a much stiffer to lighter brake with minimal effort is such a win.
If you like more brake force and shorter travel i created a hack! Just place the rods one step higher -> elastomer stack will be there where the damper was and the damper is mounted behind the pedal plate. Keep the green and blue elastomers because the travel of the damper will be shortend and maxed out easily, try to prevent bottom out.
i like that 2 stage feel. it helps me not lock up as much. but you can dial out the softer stage with more preload. they sell springs as an add on now too btw, if you wondered why. you know they ones they used to include :| its good to see them fill out their eco system. the new seq shifter and handbrake look good.
I took a blue 40mm spring, the large green and small blue elastomer, damper on ~2.3 (with light shoes). Now it feels quite delicate. The damper gives a nice feel for the build up from where trailbraking ist very easy and precise. I do not recommend going higher because then it takes too mich time to build up brake pressure and your wasting meters. But i feel that some ms (~ damper on 2) helps to get a good feel. Just smash and then begin to modulate. The cars will feel stable under braking.
I have these pedals and use the green elastomers with the standard spring running it just under 2. Would love to see the mod video for the brake with links to where we could get better springs maybe! I love these pedals but don’t know where to start to make them better.
Thanks for this review. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on these Pro X pedals until I saw your notes about the brake pedal. After watching both of your reviews, It would be extremely appreciated if you provided a quick comparison between the Pro X and Pro Plus pedals (and which you prefer more). Especially when taking into account the spring replacement you recommended for both reviews. As of now, I'll be holding off in hopes that I'll see a reply or new video from you. Cheers.
I received my Simsonn Pro Plus pedals about a month ago. Initial setup was a fair amount of work but I liked that. I am very happy with them, Freejoy was very helpful. My only issue with them is in Snowrunner. It's the only game that does not support USB pedals. I tried joytokey and mapped w to the throttle. It makes a sound as if it is accelerating but no movement. X360CE was very glitchy and took away force feedback from my wheel. Every other driving game they are fantastic.
I'd really like a follow up as I am fairly new to such pedals (coming from G29) but I could feel that the Break needs modification. I am now tampering the load cell as it can be adjusted and see if this does anything. But I feel that the spring of the breaking pedal is its weakest point. But since I am new to this I am a bit to anxious just buying random springs/elastomers. So any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.
Mate thanks for your review, of course I would like to see brake pedal mode video, we need to see the optimum pedal performance, but what i can tell you like the brake touch of the Pro Plus more than this set right?
The resistance collar on the brake looks threaded. I feel like you could move it towards you to start the resistance stage a bit sooner, before it compresses the elastomer. It looks like a PITA no matter how you slice it, but appears that the adjustability is there. Maybe I'm wrong?
Hey @SimRacingCorner! I'd really love a vid on modding the brake to see what you can do. Curious, have you ever considered getting like 3 really small 20mm length die springs, that are all a different load rating, and one really stiff small elastomer at the end, like a 95a elastomer? So something like this: Yellow die spring - > Blue die spring - > Red die spring - > 95a elastomer My idea is this would give you a really progressive brake pedal, while maintaining the ability to modulate smoothly at the end of the stroke with the elastomer. Plus, as eslatomers naturally deform with constant pressure and relax, it might be more consistent with just the one single hard af elastomer at the end, as it wouldn't be compressing or relaxing as much. Just food for thought. You'd need more spacers/washers though, but I think it could give the best feeling. I know the VRS pedals just use springs, but perhaps the above configuration with the hydraulic rod at 1 or 2 might give the benefits of the VRS constituency without sacrificing the smoothness or nice sort of cushioned feel of having elastomers. Love ya content!
"I can hear you, Clem Fandango". It's a different feel from springs, compared to elastomers. I have tried all-spring load cell brake mods before. And I always prefer the feel of elastomers, it's a more realistic sensation than what springs can do. I'm aware of the elastomer relaxing element, but I've never found that to be a problem. When you're braking, you're constantly adjusting the input, so I think it's possible to cancel that out. Personally, I find my braking control is better with elastomers, than springs. I can work with a hybrid spring/mostly elastomer setup, but not where springs are doing all the work. A 95a elastomer is pretty much rock hard, it's basically a spacer at this point.
Glad someone else is a fan of Toast of London hahahaha That's a fair analysis! Eventually when I drop the money on the Simjacks or Simsonn's, I'll test it out with maybe an 80a elastomer. Would love to see what you can do to mod that brake regardless tho!
Does that mean those dampers on the brake are counter intuitive ? I agree to you that the elastomers are short. You missed the point that the spring are fixed in the back plate or is it removal?
Farily well balanced review. The operation of the pedals is sound, but the feel and usability of the brake is dissapointing. Thanks for putting the time in for the video. The exclusion of a heel plate is also a beg minus, I made one from a piece of wood I had. I will learn the lesson with these ones. I will replace this brake with an active pedal once they start to come to the market.
Outta the box I got worried but a month in I’m obsessed with how solid these feel (coming from t300 rs gt pedals and MOZA SPR) Will have to try adding the bottom gas spring again at that position as I also I found it too stiff. Another thing, I wonder if the simagic haptic pedal reactors will fit these particular pedals I’m interested in picking 2 of them
Great review as always. I'd love to see a follow up vid about the modding potential of these pedals. Regarding the damper, personally I'm liking it a lot. I find I am able to adjust it to provide a better feel depending on what I'm driving. Level 1 is great for road cars and trucking sims, where you want a lighter pedal that doesn't require much pressure. Level 2 is good for H pattern race cars where I like a bit more resistance than a road car, but I can still get to the brake pressed down quick enough to be in good position for heel/toe. Level 3 is good for sequential gearbox cars where you'll be left foot breaking. It provides a good level of resistance that helps make pedal modulation easier, at least for me. The key is recalibrating the brake each time so that you can reach 100% at the desired pressure level for that particular setting and situation. Btw, is there any chance you tested if the control box will power Simagic or SimNet haptics?
Thanks! I will run out something soon on a basic spring mod. Although the control box has sockets for pedal motors, the Simsonn software doesn't support motors to run them (yet). So there's nothing you can do with those sockets. Also, we don't know what kind of motors they plan to support. Rumble or haptic. These operate differently to each other, so the software has to handle that too.
I have these pedals and use the green elastomers with the standard spring running it just under 2. Would love to see the mod video for the brake with links to where we could get better springs maybe! I love these pedals but don’t know where to start to make them better. Would full elastomers work also?
I received this pedal set about a week ago. Everything is great except the brake pedal! It's literally terrible! I installed Heusinkveld elastomers and a strong die spring from my Simagic P2000s and it's still not to my liking. Ordered skateboard bushings just waiting on them. Hopefully they make it better cause the hydraulic ram is basically useless
Hi.are these better then the pro plus padels? Is it worth it to buy the pro x instead of buying the pro plus insted? Which padels is more perfect out of the box?pro plus or pro x? Thanks😊
They are not better than the Pro Plus pedals, based on the brake pedal. And actually, I prefer the SimJack UT's over the Pro Plus pedals, out of the box. ua-cam.com/video/LmJqwRsDlQM/v-deo.html
@dascalitzi But then consider, that means the artificial linear resistance of the damper is then what's pushing and holding the force against the load cell, and not the elastomers. I think it will be very weird.
You feel like the Simsonn pro plus is better than the Simjack UT? What is your reason behind that decision? It seems like they’re both very close in design and function.
@jbond95 they're basically the same thing only reason I say that is because Simsonn is dropping an entire eco system with a wheel base included in that lineup. In my opinion it's better to have an eco system to get into just my 2 thoughts
@jbond95 on the other hand I am returning my Simsonn Pro X pedals after 1 week of use. Had 3 issues with them already. I ordered a set of Simnet GP Pro pedals which seem to be made better and are roughly same price. I would suggest taking a look at the Simnets if I was you
Might just spend the extra $100 and get a set of the Simagic P1000 pedals because they can be incrementally upgraded with real hydraulics, inversion, haptics etc.
The close shots of the brake action seem to show a lot of flex or motion at the mounting screw of the spring perch. That sure looks like a bad design if it is allowing that much action vs being s rigid base for the spring & elastomers. It looks like they may have included a pivot action for shaft alignment (like the throttle & clutch), but I'd say some tolerances or poor design leave far too much slop in the spring base.
I think I know what you're saying. That piece is meant to move the way it does. It's hard to describe, but those screws, hold the bracket that supports the rod. And that bracket is attached to the moving section that pushes into the brake load cell. Hence, the movement.
What a great video!! I’m pretty happy with my pedals, my dumbass though the throttle to stiff, even after I adjusted everything I thought I could adjust, but I didn’t notice you could move the gas spring also lol now it feels perfect! The brake definitely needs mod, I’m working on that, harder springs are making the difference!
Yea remove the "gas spring" its just a spring inside of that metal cartridge. There's no gas or oil in them I took them apart. It just adds 100kg of force to the pedal so silly . 😊
The brake pedal damper is totally wrong. You never want damping on brake pedal depression because you want to hit peak pressure as fast as possible when getting on the brakes. You only might want damping on the pedal rebound as it is beneficial to come off the brakes slowly when trail braking. Also not having that damper attached to the loadcell is a major mistake. It defeats the purpose of a loadcell because it ensures that the loadcell will never just read the force being put in by your foot as some of that force will always be lost to the damper. Clear evidence that the people who made and engineered these pedals did not understand the complexities of how sim racing pedals should feel and operate. Seems like someone looked other pedal sets and tried to copy them without actually researching and understanding the purpose of each component. Cammus also made this same mistake with the damper. In order for this damper to function correctly, you would need to flip it around and find a way of still attaching the pedal to the ball joint, that way the damper would normally sit in a compressed state and when the pedal is pushed it would extend the damper instead of compressing it. That would result in the damping being on the pedal rebound, the way it always should have been. It would look pretty weird that way though. Better to just have a damper that functions properly.
I know what you mean. Up to 2 or 2.5 the pedal is reactive enough and believe it or not, if you mod your elastomer/spring stack, it could be beneficial for the braking sensation. Really. They do feel more hydraulic. Slam them and then modulate the release. But yes make sure not to lose the responsiveness by adding too much dampening.
These cheap load cell pedals could really use the addition of a hall sensor, they are inconsistent ASF after a few months use and software filtering only does so much.
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I also purchased this pedal set and, honestly, as soon as it arrived, the brake pedal didn’t feel right. Additionally, the signal was very limited, almost as if there was a physical blockage. Despite pressing hard, the signal range only went from 6000 to a maximum of 18000.
So, I decided to study the pedal mechanism, the load cell, and the lever system. I noticed there was some play of a few millimeters between the plate and the ball on top of the load cell. Looking underneath the load cell, with the pedal flipped upside down, I found a set screw that could be tightened by at least two more turns.
After making this adjustment, the feel improved immediately. The signal now ranges from 6000 to 32000, allowing me to fully utilize the load cell.
I also replaced the stock spring right away with a 2 cm blue spring, adding an additional 2 cm spacer. As for the elastomers, I chose two blue ones, while I set the damper to 2/3.
The only thing I don’t like is that the damper works in only one direction. I would have preferred if it also worked on the release, which would allow for more controlled trail braking.
You are a legend for producing such in-depth reviews! This is the review I've been waiting for. In the past, pedal upgrades from the main Chinese brands always reviewed as a positive upgrade. So considering these are supposed to be Simsonn's latest and greatest, I ordered the full set of the Pro X pedals and accessories about 2 weeks ago, including the added heel plate. So they're currently somewhere on a ship between China and Australia and I should have them in about 2-3 weeks. I am HANGING out. I returned a PXN v12lite bundle with pedals a few weeks ago. Unfortunately the DD base started developing a noisy fan after a couple of weeks which seems to be a common issue. Besides the crappy fans, the PXN v12lite. I loved it Wheel and base felt EXCELLENT. I took the set back just wanting a replacement but they had none left in stock after the $699 AUD Xmas specials and the wait was a few weeks. Moving on, I instead forked out $999 AUD just for a wheel, a Logitech G Pro, and to say I Looooove it is probably an understatment!. So after perusing some reviews of previous Simsonn and Simjack pedals, i decided upon these believing it would be another upgrade. I had no interest in the RGB at all until you made me aware that they can be used to show the amount of pressure used on the pedals. I'm happy with the review but a little taken back by your negative impression on the brake, however, I have 3 different strength springs from a recent SimRuito load cell handbrake purchase, and they are 30mm long and 27mm diameter which im hoping will fit. Fingers crossed. On a positive note, I'll fiddle with that Brake pedal til it's just right
Thanks again for the exellent review. I'm still very much looking forward to getting the pedals as it's an absolute pain to try and race with the accelerator and brake bindings on the wheel only. Forgot toemtiom toy.fellow.Aussies that this full set with all the goodies cost me.$416 AUD.shipped (Roughly $263 USD shipped as of today's exchange rate) Thanks again brother.
I have to say the inclusion of a damper with an adjustable dial for me makes a pedal set much more versitile. Being able to move from a much stiffer to lighter brake with minimal effort is such a win.
If you like more brake force and shorter travel i created a hack! Just place the rods one step higher -> elastomer stack will be there where the damper was and the damper is mounted behind the pedal plate. Keep the green and blue elastomers because the travel of the damper will be shortend and maxed out easily, try to prevent bottom out.
Thanks for your hard work with these reviews. Really helpful as someone considering upgrading from Moza SRP.
i like that 2 stage feel. it helps me not lock up as much. but you can dial out the softer stage with more preload. they sell springs as an add on now too btw, if you wondered why. you know they ones they used to include :|
its good to see them fill out their eco system. the new seq shifter and handbrake look good.
I took a blue 40mm spring, the large green and small blue elastomer, damper on ~2.3 (with light shoes). Now it feels quite delicate. The damper gives a nice feel for the build up from where trailbraking ist very easy and precise. I do not recommend going higher because then it takes too mich time to build up brake pressure and your wasting meters. But i feel that some ms (~ damper on 2) helps to get a good feel. Just smash and then begin to modulate. The cars will feel stable under braking.
And you can easily unscrew the rod and change elastimers from the top end. Way more easy than shown. :) Nice review.
I have these pedals and use the green elastomers with the standard spring running it just under 2. Would love to see the mod video for the brake with links to where we could get better springs maybe! I love these pedals but don’t know where to start to make them better.
Thanks for this review. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on these Pro X pedals until I saw your notes about the brake pedal. After watching both of your reviews, It would be extremely appreciated if you provided a quick comparison between the Pro X and Pro Plus pedals (and which you prefer more). Especially when taking into account the spring replacement you recommended for both reviews. As of now, I'll be holding off in hopes that I'll see a reply or new video from you. Cheers.
I'll publish the spring mod vid in a couple of days!
I received my Simsonn Pro Plus pedals about a month ago. Initial setup was a fair amount of work but I liked that. I am very happy with them, Freejoy was very helpful. My only issue with them is in Snowrunner. It's the only game that does not support USB pedals. I tried joytokey and mapped w to the throttle. It makes a sound as if it is accelerating but no movement. X360CE was very glitchy and took away force feedback from my wheel. Every other driving game they are fantastic.
ty for an honest review. that brake pedal travel seems so wrong for a load cell
I'd really like a follow up as I am fairly new to such pedals (coming from G29) but I could feel that the Break needs modification. I am now tampering the load cell as it can be adjusted and see if this does anything. But I feel that the spring of the breaking pedal is its weakest point. But since I am new to this I am a bit to anxious just buying random springs/elastomers. So any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.
For sure, I'll do some kind of follow-up next week.
I go the red 30x30 spring on the pedals. They work great
Mate thanks for your review, of course I would like to see brake pedal mode video, we need to see the optimum pedal performance, but what i can tell you like the brake touch of the Pro Plus more than this set right?
@@abahlawan No worries. And yeah, I do prefer the feel of the Pro Plus brake.
This RGB stuff is getting out hand, pretty soon my rig is going to look like a "Disco" from the 1970's
The resistance collar on the brake looks threaded. I feel like you could move it towards you to start the resistance stage a bit sooner, before it compresses the elastomer. It looks like a PITA no matter how you slice it, but appears that the adjustability is there. Maybe I'm wrong?
Hey @SimRacingCorner! I'd really love a vid on modding the brake to see what you can do. Curious, have you ever considered getting like 3 really small 20mm length die springs, that are all a different load rating, and one really stiff small elastomer at the end, like a 95a elastomer? So something like this:
Yellow die spring - > Blue die spring - > Red die spring - > 95a elastomer
My idea is this would give you a really progressive brake pedal, while maintaining the ability to modulate smoothly at the end of the stroke with the elastomer. Plus, as eslatomers naturally deform with constant pressure and relax, it might be more consistent with just the one single hard af elastomer at the end, as it wouldn't be compressing or relaxing as much.
Just food for thought. You'd need more spacers/washers though, but I think it could give the best feeling. I know the VRS pedals just use springs, but perhaps the above configuration with the hydraulic rod at 1 or 2 might give the benefits of the VRS constituency without sacrificing the smoothness or nice sort of cushioned feel of having elastomers.
Love ya content!
"I can hear you, Clem Fandango".
It's a different feel from springs, compared to elastomers. I have tried all-spring load cell brake mods before. And I always prefer the feel of elastomers, it's a more realistic sensation than what springs can do. I'm aware of the elastomer relaxing element, but I've never found that to be a problem. When you're braking, you're constantly adjusting the input, so I think it's possible to cancel that out. Personally, I find my braking control is better with elastomers, than springs. I can work with a hybrid spring/mostly elastomer setup, but not where springs are doing all the work. A 95a elastomer is pretty much rock hard, it's basically a spacer at this point.
Glad someone else is a fan of Toast of London hahahaha
That's a fair analysis! Eventually when I drop the money on the Simjacks or Simsonn's, I'll test it out with maybe an 80a elastomer.
Would love to see what you can do to mod that brake regardless tho!
On another note the red elastomers are 50 shore not 60 as stated by Simsonn themselves
in the brake pedal is better the green hub?
Thx, i just ordered theses pedals 2 weeks ago coming from fanatech V1 clubsport pedals
Does that mean those dampers on the brake are counter intuitive ? I agree to you that the elastomers are short. You missed the point that the spring are fixed in the back plate or is it removal?
How do these feel compared to the tlcms with the rubber bushings instead of springs?
Farily well balanced review. The operation of the pedals is sound, but the feel and usability of the brake is dissapointing. Thanks for putting the time in for the video. The exclusion of a heel plate is also a beg minus, I made one from a piece of wood I had. I will learn the lesson with these ones. I will replace this brake with an active pedal once they start to come to the market.
Outta the box I got worried but a month in I’m obsessed with how solid these feel (coming from t300 rs gt pedals and MOZA SPR) Will have to try adding the bottom gas spring again at that position as I also I found it too stiff. Another thing, I wonder if the simagic haptic pedal reactors will fit these particular pedals I’m interested in picking 2 of them
Great review as always.
I'd love to see a follow up vid about the modding potential of these pedals.
Regarding the damper, personally I'm liking it a lot. I find I am able to adjust it to provide a better feel depending on what I'm driving.
Level 1 is great for road cars and trucking sims, where you want a lighter pedal that doesn't require much pressure.
Level 2 is good for H pattern race cars where I like a bit more resistance than a road car, but I can still get to the brake pressed down quick enough to be in good position for heel/toe.
Level 3 is good for sequential gearbox cars where you'll be left foot breaking. It provides a good level of resistance that helps make pedal modulation easier, at least for me.
The key is recalibrating the brake each time so that you can reach 100% at the desired pressure level for that particular setting and situation.
Btw, is there any chance you tested if the control box will power Simagic or SimNet haptics?
Thanks! I will run out something soon on a basic spring mod.
Although the control box has sockets for pedal motors, the Simsonn software doesn't support motors to run them (yet). So there's nothing you can do with those sockets. Also, we don't know what kind of motors they plan to support. Rumble or haptic. These operate differently to each other, so the software has to handle that too.
I have these pedals and use the green elastomers with the standard spring running it just under 2. Would love to see the mod video for the brake with links to where we could get better springs maybe! I love these pedals but don’t know where to start to make them better. Would full elastomers work also?
Where can I download the new calibration software?
I received this pedal set about a week ago. Everything is great except the brake pedal! It's literally terrible! I installed Heusinkveld elastomers and a strong die spring from my Simagic P2000s and it's still not to my liking. Ordered skateboard bushings just waiting on them. Hopefully they make it better cause the hydraulic ram is basically useless
Thanks for the review. Would it help to back the damper out? Giving more travel of the load cell before the damper max?
You can't really, due to the length of the rod. It's just pops out where it joins to the pedal arm when you back off too much.
Do they sell the RGB plate as a stand alone to go with the pro pedals
No, and it wouldn't work anyway.
@ ahh I love the Pro Pedals but I need a plate with my new chassis. Thanks for the reply!
is that new simsonn software compatible with the older sets like the pro plus pedals? or is it exclusive to the pro X pedals?
It partially is.
Just on time I got mine 2 days ago :)
Hi.are these better then the pro plus padels?
Is it worth it to buy the pro x instead of buying the pro plus insted?
Which padels is more perfect out of the box?pro plus or pro x?
Thanks😊
They are not better than the Pro Plus pedals, based on the brake pedal. And actually, I prefer the SimJack UT's over the Pro Plus pedals, out of the box. ua-cam.com/video/LmJqwRsDlQM/v-deo.html
Hi. Is it possible to swap the damper with the elasomer? Put the damper below the elastomers and the elastomers above?
Hmmm, maybe could be done. Though, what would be the benefit?
@@SimRacingCornerMaybe the elastomers will get more push force and less for the damper?
@dascalitzi But then consider, that means the artificial linear resistance of the damper is then what's pushing and holding the force against the load cell, and not the elastomers. I think it will be very weird.
@@SimRacingCorner True, yes
Wondering if I should get this or the Simjack UT which is slightly cheaper. Is this one worth the extra money?
@jbond95 No! I would get the Simsonn Pro Plus version. Think I'm gona return my pro x and get the pro plus instead
You feel like the Simsonn pro plus is better than the Simjack UT? What is your reason behind that decision? It seems like they’re both very close in design and function.
@jbond95 they're basically the same thing only reason I say that is because Simsonn is dropping an entire eco system with a wheel base included in that lineup. In my opinion it's better to have an eco system to get into just my 2 thoughts
@jbond95 on the other hand I am returning my Simsonn Pro X pedals after 1 week of use. Had 3 issues with them already. I ordered a set of Simnet GP Pro pedals which seem to be made better and are roughly same price. I would suggest taking a look at the Simnets if I was you
Might just spend the extra $100 and get a set of the Simagic P1000 pedals because they can be incrementally upgraded with real hydraulics, inversion, haptics etc.
Hi. Are the Simruito pedals much worse than the Simsonn's Pro Plus or Simjack Ultimate? Thanks for Testing. Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
I haven't begun testing the Simruito pedals yet, so I can't say.
The close shots of the brake action seem to show a lot of flex or motion at the mounting screw of the spring perch. That sure looks like a bad design if it is allowing that much action vs being s rigid base for the spring & elastomers. It looks like they may have included a pivot action for shaft alignment (like the throttle & clutch), but I'd say some tolerances or poor design leave far too much slop in the spring base.
I think I know what you're saying. That piece is meant to move the way it does. It's hard to describe, but those screws, hold the bracket that supports the rod. And that bracket is attached to the moving section that pushes into the brake load cell. Hence, the movement.
@@SimRacingCorner Copy that. Thanks for the clarification.
What a great video!! I’m pretty happy with my pedals, my dumbass though the throttle to stiff, even after I adjusted everything I thought I could adjust, but I didn’t notice you could move the gas spring also lol now it feels perfect! The brake definitely needs mod, I’m working on that, harder springs are making the difference!
Yea remove the "gas spring" its just a spring inside of that metal cartridge. There's no gas or oil in them I took them apart. It just adds 100kg of force to the pedal so silly . 😊
Simsonn or sim jack?
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184€ de frais de douanes vers la france mais simsonn eu declare 59$ le colis si jamais ups bloque le colis 😉les meilleurs pedales pour moins de 1000€
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The brake pedal damper is totally wrong. You never want damping on brake pedal depression because you want to hit peak pressure as fast as possible when getting on the brakes. You only might want damping on the pedal rebound as it is beneficial to come off the brakes slowly when trail braking. Also not having that damper attached to the loadcell is a major mistake. It defeats the purpose of a loadcell because it ensures that the loadcell will never just read the force being put in by your foot as some of that force will always be lost to the damper. Clear evidence that the people who made and engineered these pedals did not understand the complexities of how sim racing pedals should feel and operate.
Seems like someone looked other pedal sets and tried to copy them without actually researching and understanding the purpose of each component. Cammus also made this same mistake with the damper.
In order for this damper to function correctly, you would need to flip it around and find a way of still attaching the pedal to the ball joint, that way the damper would normally sit in a compressed state and when the pedal is pushed it would extend the damper instead of compressing it. That would result in the damping being on the pedal rebound, the way it always should have been. It would look pretty weird that way though. Better to just have a damper that functions properly.
I know what you mean. Up to 2 or 2.5 the pedal is reactive enough and believe it or not, if you mod your elastomer/spring stack, it could be beneficial for the braking sensation. Really. They do feel more hydraulic. Slam them and then modulate the release. But yes make sure not to lose the responsiveness by adding too much dampening.
These cheap load cell pedals could really use the addition of a hall sensor, they are inconsistent ASF after a few months use and software filtering only does so much.
Having used and reviewed a number of cheap load cell pedals, I have not found this the case.