@@boredalot I promise you there are people who think he did. It was a fantastic feat for Zoro, but some people gotta be honest ya know. Also I love both Law and Zoro
I am completely 50/50 on this. If they clashed it wouldn't surprise me who would win since one is as likely as another. This is a damned good match. I wouldn't seriously argue with any result.
Nah lol Zoro wins mid diff at best. Law has no feats compared to Zoro. How about you break law‘s bones and everything like Zoro had and then let him try to blitz Kaido or let him clash with Kaido. Also Kaido easily blitzed law but this dude never mentioned that while Zoro only took damage because he saved everyone. Also Kaido‘s durability is much better than that of BM + King is even faster than Kaido since he managed to disappear in front of Zoro‘s eyes due to the immense speed but Zoro still managed to block those high speed attack.
I have a few problems with this, that I want to clarify. I hope you read it. 1 - Zoro did not use ACoC vs Kaido, yes he demonstrated his CoC, but that does not mean he used ACoC, as we have seen people like Kat, Doffy and Chinjao exert CoC when they attack, without using ACoC, also Kaido, who put Luffy above all other 4 Supernova in terms of power, doubts and mocks Luffy, thinking he would not be able to use ACoC, if Zoro actually used ACoC there, Kaido would not doubt or mock Luffy, he would anticipate it. 2 - KoH is stronger than Ashura and that is implied in the fight with King. Zoro states that it was his strength(haki) that was lacking beforehand, so he could not use ACoC or Enma at its fullest, which would also include Ashura, as that attack was used prior to KoH, meaning each and every attack Zoro used in KoH would scale higher than Dead Man's Game(or Farce of the Dead, depends on translation), that he used against Kaido. 3 - Zoro is faster than law, by a lot as well. They might be comparable when Zoro is not using his attacks, but there is one significant difference, when Zoro uses blitzing attacks, like Shishi Sonson, DDG(dead man game), Purgatory Onigiri, etc. he becomes way faster, to the point that he was able to blitz Kaido(Hybrid mode), something Law has never done and was only getting hits on, if Kaido was off-guard or letting him do it. Zoro has also blitzed BM twice, one time whilst having 20-30 broken bones. 4 - Haki blooms are important, whenever a character in OP goes through extreme conditions in a fight or unlocks a new type of haki, their haki blooms which also increases physical stats, for example base Luffy went from getting blitzed by base Kaido to going toe to toe with Hybrid Kaido, that would also affect Zoro, meaning he would be even faster in KoH than anytime beforehand. 5 - Possibility of KoH Ashura is still there, yes Zoro would probably be able to use that once, but it would be fast enough to blitz Law, as Law was getting tagged by Zeus and Prometheus, Zoro would not have problem tagging or blitzing Law with his attacks.
1. I’ve had this argument in the past and it’s mostly an interpretation thing. I would say ut makes more sense for it to be ACoC but you can disagree 2.I already agreed in the video 3.Zoro can be faster with certain attacks but its not a huge difference, ie Shishi Sonson vs Kaku, where Zoro and Kaku are relative and Kaku can react to it. So its not just a blitz difference in speed. Zoro didn’t blitz Kaido in Ashura he was able to overpower his blows which knocked him off balance allowing Zoro to cut him with Dead Mans Game 4.This is kind of a mute point considering Law also fought on the roof so by your own logic he would bloom as well. Since Zoro is fighting a weaker opponent(King) it is hard to tell how much stronger or faster he has gotten overall. Plus if you really want to use blooms Law would get one from from fighting BM, I don’t use blooms unless they are quantifiable through feats. 5. I also don’t use hypotheticals, like I wouldn’t assume Demon Robin can just clone herself multiple times if she hasn’t done it on screen. The battles I do are more grounded to avoid headcanon scenarios Thanks for watching/giving your opinion, I appreciate it
@@ReiStormie 1 - I can see why it is an interpretation thing. 2 - I am pretty sure Kaku did not react to Shi Shi son son, Zoro did not even use it when he fought Kaku, or fought alongside him, he actually used Purgatory Onigiri, which does not seem to be as effective as Shishi Sonson for example, as Zoro holds Shishi Sonson as one of his most lethal attacks, while he just spams PO, plus Kaku can also be seen using a blitzing attack alongside Zoro, my problem is that, Law does not have anything like that. 3 - I guess u can be right, but even like that Law's haki would bloom less, as Zoro was in more critical situation and he also achieved a new type of haki, even if u want to disregard the ''extreme situation'' part, Zoro still achieved a new type of haki, which consistently amps users in stats. 4 - U can say that, definitely, but I am saying that there always is a possibility of that happening. In manga Zoro did not have seem to overpowered Kaido, they clashed a little and Kaido was preparing for an attack, the scene was pretty different from Anime, when u look at it. Either way, if Law gets hit by one of KoH attacks, he is pretty much dead, as each KoH attack scales over rooftop Ashura and if that was able to scar Kaido, Law will just straight up lose a limb or smth to one of KoH attacks and Law is definitely getting hit, as Zoro(blitz attack) > Zoro=Law, in terms of speed. I also have a greater way for Zoro's speed scaling, but that would require me to post panels from the manga, so if u want to we can continue this in discord.
On number one, you're incorrect. You can't scar Kaido with a sword unless you're using advanced conquerors. That was the whole point of Oda showing the scabbards fighting Kaido first. They all could used advanced armament. That allowed them to cut Kaido but not scar him. Advanced armament is too shallow to scar or seriously injure Kaido. Luffy said that himself. What happened in the Zoro vs. Kaido scene is that Zoro realized he was on his last legs and decided to go full power. He allowed Enma to absorb the maximum amount of haki he has. He had conquerors haki. Enma added that haki and coated his swords with it. Zoro was not conscious of his own ability.
I don't thin Law is standing after an Adv. CoC Ashura. Zoro is not a stationary target like BM/Kaido. Also, Zoro Perma scarred Kaido with all of his Bones broken.
@@drdre1223 thats cause my guy has plot armour if he was no stranger to pain then were was that stregnth against kuma in sabaody or kizaru ? like my guy can still attack with 20 broken bones so just being injured shouldnt hold him back from fighting kizaru or running for his life instead my guy was helplessly waiting for kizaru to kill him .
law is not able to move yonko level haki users and theres no indication zoro has yonko haki, so him being able to move zoro is more likelly than him not being able to. also note that law had to aweken his fruit to match a normal quake quake attack which just goes to show that the gap between the quake and the rest of the paramicia class is huge even vs laws fruit which is arguably the second strongest paramicia fruit.
I don’t think it’s comparable, if someone wants to be moved by shambles they would be, take luffy for example. If law did shambles on him luffy would move not because law is stronger or has better haki but because luffy is okay with it happening. I think the same would apply to zoro in a serious fight I don’t think he’d allow himself to be moved by using his haki. If it’s a matter of armament haki we know zoro’s is stronger than laws as he could cut kaido without his blades breaking but law couldn’t cut him without his DF, and if it’s a conquerors haki thing then zoro still has law beat on that one as he’s got advanced haki and we don’t know if law even has base conquerors.
@@post8103 Nah because Law has moved his enemies around too like Doffy who at the time had stronger haki than Law. From what Law was saying, BM and Kaidos haki were so astronomically high he couldn't use shambles on them. But that was the only technique they negated. Law was still using a bunch of other DF abilities on them like the Gamma knife, the injection shot, the shock, and the puncture wille etc. So I think personally it's a matter of haki. You can negate some abilities if you have stronger haki, but depending on the other person's haki, you wont be able to negate everything. Respect your take tho
@@TheLockerRoomVidss Yeah I think Oda needs to flesh out the haki negation just a bit more. Also another thing is Zoro not having full control over Enma. 1063 Law said it takes a lot of haki to negate DF abilities. So now he's got Enma draining him and apparently has to use more haki to negate some of Laws attacks.
L. Listened to the whole thing while driving. Zoro is much faster and more durable than Law. No debate. If Law endured Big Mom’s haki punches, that only means Zoro could even better. The only thing you got right is that Law and Kid have better portrayal. Law fighting BB and Kid possibly fighting Shanks is crazy. Zoro is going to fight Yonko-level Mihawk, but later on in the story. Feats go to Zoro. Portrayal goes to Law.
I don't even know that portrayal goes to law, I mean the stuff with blackbeard is cool and all but every character who has faced black beard has got hits off on him. Also he and kid fought 2 on 1 vs big mom and won y knocking her off the island not out. Also advanced conqueror's seems to be the end all be all. The last pirate king was top 1 or 2 and he had no devil fruit. Kid on the other hand could be interesting if he unlocks advanced conqueror's and has an awakening and his crazy durability he will for sure be the whitebeard to luffys Rodger. But so far he honestly has been the 2nd weakest of the rooftop fighters. But again we all have opinions I can see how some people might see his portrayal as better. But considering they are both swordsmen and zoro is going to be the strongest he is portrayed and has the feats.
@@drew-lp4zh would it have been better if they fought big mom on the ground😂 then she would’ve gone deeper into the lava and burned to death faster😂that doesn’t count as a ring out . Imagine telling Superman he can’t punch someone into the sun because it’s a ring out😂. They were just that strong
@@snowinouterspace1883 it would have been better if she was koed and fell like kaodo lmfao 💀 🤣 😂 she was having a full on convo with herself in the air lol and again 2 v 1 how are they comparable to luffy in any way. They are not rivals unless kid unlocks advanced conqueror's or they both win there one on one vs the yanko they are fighting. Shit big mom didn't even use her conqueror's vs them lol
@@ReiStormie what better feats? The only feat Law has over Zoro for now is DC that's it and that attack took a lot of prep time, Zoro has Law beat in every stat
I think 1 thing ya didn't mention was the monster upgrade of advanced conqueror's it took luffy from getting dominated to clashing with kaodo in base. So if we pretend that zoro was using advanced even though there was no black lightning streaks then he was only drawing it out in Emma because it forced it out.with that we could assume that king of hell asura would have heavily damaged kaido atleast by a multitudeof 3. But I really liked the video I just think with the conqueror's upgrade and the fact that they are both swordsmen zoro would win, his goal is to be the strongest wouldn't make much since for law to be stronger as a swordsmen himself. But like all powers scaling we won't know unless they fight.
Also gotta rememeber kaido didn't use coating vs zoro either so it really might not make a difference. Despite both Yamato and luffy learning it kaido can easly counter zoros with his own. Though I agree obv coating zoro does a little better.
Big mom was using Advanced conquers during their fight and he was able to tank attacks from her. That's higher ap than anything zoro can dish out. Law has a better track history against stronger people. Hes so strong blackbeard had to be cautious against him.
@@WristTapeDrowzzy idk about big mom using adv conq because there are plenty of panels where she didn't use it, big mom was also cautious about Zoro, hence why she yelled at kaido to dodge, and that was before zoro knew what he was doing. It's undebatable that king is tankier than law. Law is not tanking any attack from king of hell Zoro, that's just ridiculous.
This isn’t something I ever thought about. Thought it was a given law would win. Based off of how the story is written narratively, kid and law being luffys rivals. And laws devil fruit is prolly the most hax df in the series
@@pkj2148 it’s not about being on his level but relative. They are all in that admiral tier of fighters. Luffy being on the higher end while kid and law being on the lower end right around sabo and Ben beckman imo
LMAO the KIdd/Law being rivals stuff again. So was Zoro early in the story. And no, Kidd/Law were always shown to be quite a bit behind Luffy. Also look the the rivals shit turned out in that last chapter LMAO
Not gonna jump in the bandwagon on who will win. But Law is not more durable than Zoro. From the start of the manga when it comes to Zoro, Oda was always focus in his durability, more than anything else.
Although I agree with you for the most part about law being more impressive as a whole ,but we do need to acknowledge that the zoro who fought king and won is 100% stronger than the one who clashed vs kaido reasons are: -that zoro was nerfed barley being able to move having less control on his sword enma and not showing definitively if he is using acoc(not being able to use it at wil) -the one who fought king showed having much control on enma after he unlocked acoc at will and also we know that the the conquerors haki of the person will grow as he fights powerful enemies and we all agree that zoro did become stronger after fighting king which would clearly mean a healthy KOH (better control acoc and enma) zoro >ashura rooftop and we know luffy and Yamato with acoc have managed to fight kaido for a long time , unfortunately we won’t know how a KOH zoro would fair against hybrid kaido, for to mention yes zoro does have a time limit but so does law he also did say awakening take extreme amount of energy so he was not using it actively like zoro has been vs king nonetheless these were wano law and zoro, law clearly have improved his haki since then and might also improved in using his awakenings but I would like to say the same about zoro and kid , it has been a few chapters and we saw zoro using enma and having no issues in controlling it , as for kid am sure he will show something vs shanks overall I agree that law might be stronger but that will also depend on how his fight would go vs bb after he is “rival to luffy” would be shame to get defeated and lose his ponyglph it won’t look good
Zoro is stronger than Law. Do you really think Law can beat Katakuri? Mama just got unlucky cos she can’t fight in air. If it was ground ain’t no way they are beating Mama. Luffy now can beat Kaido 1 v 1 but it will but not Kid or Law. Kaido knockout, Mama wasn’t she fell off Onigashima that’s the difference
Law carrying the fight with a serious BM while Zoro nearly dies fighting King. This man Law is consistently injuring Yonko now. Zoro ain't doing that. It's not hard to comprehend but some people cant think while they have Zoros dick in their mouth🤣
@Malik Lofton let's not forget how there so quick to point out "going toe to toe with kaido and not having coating yet " but fail to realise kaido still beat zoros strongest form without using any haki. They fail to realise kaido too didn't use haki and still had future sight in his bag too let alone drunk mode that drastically increases haki.
@@Iroh10800 That toe to toe argument is so exaggerated. Man got one cut in and was done. "BUT HE SCARED KAIDO THO!!!!" Who cares. I dont even hate Zoro. But his fanboys are irritating. The only person who can say they went toe to toe with Kaido that night is Luffy. And even after unlocking AC & G5, Kaido was holding it down
Law doesn't have more attack power/potency than Zoro. A 30 broken boned, ryou Ashura managed to scar a hybrid kaido › dragon form kaido. The mink recovery drug healed the bones but didn't take away the all pain and fatigue of roofpiece, he went on to fight the 3rd strongest character who basically dealt with fodder and ganged up on Marco beforehand. King who has better durability, agility and speed than big mom threw around Zoro and Zoro couldn't even cut him whether the flames were on or off. Until he got AdCoC and ended the fight in 3 hits. KoH is significantly stronger than Ashura because it's an AdCoC attack and the current Egghead Island Zoro doesn't have a time limit. He only said the sword will kill him if it kept on exuding that much haki because he was already at his limit. Dragon blaze, Dragon Twister, using his haki to coat his swords and himself to block hakai and Ashura all used a lot of haki. So his haki was depleted and it was further depleted because enma kept taking more than it should during the king fight, this will obviously lead to greater haki bloom to satisfy enma which is something that only Oden did, who is in kaido's top 5. After the cliff cutting scene, he said Oden welded enma like a feather and if he got used to it, he'd be that much stronger. Oden was able to use enma without it draining his haki and we see Zoro using enma casually on egghead meaning the sword will not suck the life out of him anymore. KoH is just Zoro using AdCoC, all the other AdCoC users don't have a limit, so should a fully fit Zoro. Using the awaken law clashing with Blackbeard statement only helps zoro's case since Roger an AdCoC user was able to counter whitebeards quake powers, haki transcends all df abilities. Law who is a swordsman using his awakening is clashing with Blackbeard, don't you think Zoro using AdCoC wouldn't be able to clash with Blackbeard? Do you think Blackbeard or law can tank KoH attacks or react to zoro's blitz attacks. Do you really think law can tag current Zoro, who reacted to a slash mid sleep, with enma? Law is a swordsman and he will never be stronger than Zoro, the captain rivalry portrayal is not greater than the WSS portrayal.
Minks medic literally made zoro like new lol, also the ashura was zoro max output of haki, even vs king he didn't used it, and no way u think king is durable than big mom lol, flame mode is arguable, but base big mom his far more durable than anything flame off king showed lol, in sheer durability only big mom comes close to kaido, she's a natural born monster. Law attack potency is indeed greater than Zoro's, law was able w his df to hurt big mom so badly she was trying to avoid him at all cost, even kaido commented on law abilities. Plus the versatility his df grant him is greater than zoro who is a swordsman, what if law created a room and teleport even one of zoro's swords ? I know this is kinda bullshit way to think but really zoro at this moment can't beat law, if zoro lands a powerful attack on law it will inflict good amount of damage since law isn't as durable as zoro, but he can still tanks things, like when he was tanking punches from a amplified big mom who his stronger than her regular form. I see it this way, attack potency : law, defense: law, strength: zoro, durability: zoro, hax: law, close combat skill: zoro, haki: zoro, range : law, IQ: law ( arguable... or not ?), feats: law.
Whitebeard didn't use quake against roger, it was never shown,. Also law isn't a swordsman, having a sword and being a swordsman is different things in one piece, are big mom, whitebeard, fujitora swordsmen ? I think no all these people used the sword as a channel to make a certain use of their main weapon aka their df. On the other hand people like rayleigh, zoro, mihawk, shanks, Cavendish,etc are swordsmen because all the guys are at their peak with their sword, if u take the sword, u nerf them by around 60 to 80 percent of their full power, if u take laws sword he woul us like 10 to 20 percent.
Do you honestly believe king has better durability than big mom? cause that's insane, the drug healed him up and mended his injuries from roofpiece, the whole fight with king was focusing on knowing WHEN to attack him, is any coincidence that king got blitzed with an adv coc attack when his flames were off? No it wasn't. Being able to break big mom's bones single handedly when she's a freak of nature is far more impressive then roughing flame off king, it's not in the same category at all, being able to scar kaido is notable but there's also the issue of hax, which zoro's haki cannot negate, put very simply. Law runs circles around him with the teleporting and can destroy him with awakening, this fight is in law's favor through and through. and in terms of Portrayel, law is not portrayed as someone who focuses on swordsmanship so the WSS protrayel is a useless arguement when it's about supernova portrayel atm. Law is aswordsman but he uses a sword in the same way big mom does, meaning as an extention of his other abilities so that renders the WSS bs even more pointless. Will zoro surpass law? Probably, but he ain't there yet, and that's how it's gonna be for a while longer.
@@Chaosking707 no way u think katakuri beats king lol, katakuri only hax was adv observation haki, his durability is mid, attack power is mid too, also defense. King with flames on is practically invincible, even with flame off he seem to have better durability than katakuri also his fire could potentially counter kata mochi. Let's even ignore the fact that katakuri has to stay calm and cool headed to use future sight, king speed mode blitz zoro many times, and speed is basically the counter to future sight, as we see in snakeman vs katakuri or even when luffy used future sight but still couldn't dodge a attack from kaido. King is stronger than katakuri, at least in my pov.
Zoro slowed down a crazy attack 😂before being teleported out the way so he doesn’t end up like a dbz villain. It’s a testament to his character to try to sacrifice himself but that’s all it is. A character feat while showing it’s a decent strenght feat.
If I throw myself onto a grenade to protect people around me, am I a badass? Sure. But I'm a dead badass. (Unless one of those people is also a badass with teleportation powers 😉)
@@YungRoronoa_YT I agree with physically stronger and better haki ofc but not really with more experienced. Law has been a captain of his own crew since he was a preteen and a member of a crime family before that where he was taught a variety of fighting techniques armed an unarmed.
@@gdp4467 Zoro was sword fighting and beating seasoned, trained adults at 10, him and kuina had 2000 sword duels before he turned 11, then became bounty hunter, then became a strawhat, definitely more experience and better/more training than law
While Law is extremely impressive and his DF is top tier, I definitely feel like he is carried by it, and rightfully so, but Zoro is one of a handful of people to wield a black blade although he didn't make it, still wielding it is a great feat ontop of that he has the ability to wield Enma and Advanced haki
Zoro fanboys are so in denial they make real zoro fans like myself look bad. Law is clearly stronger yet zoro fanboys always make it seem like zoro is top 5 in the verse 🤦🏽♂️ this has been happening since forever and will never change. One of the worst thing about the one piece fandom is the fanboyism and the kings of it are the zorotards I swear 😂🤦🏽♂️ this is a close fight but law wins clearly. Idk how it’s even a debate
One thing people need to get straight is that Enma is not a " power boost " in the normal sense . Enma does not give Zoro power , it is stated in the Manga and anime that Enma extracts the users Haki and forces said Haki into itself ( hence why we see when Enma takes Zoro's Haki, Zoro's arm get drained of eveything . Not to mentionin the manga and anime , its said that if it were anyone Else using Enma , they would be reducedto nothing but a husk a dead shell ), so all the "new" power is all Zoro's , not Enmas . Zoro won't get weaker if he decideds to leave Enma .
The zoro fanboys in this comment section is crazy🤣talking about "zoro was way stronger when fighting king" naaa its just that king is world apart from being as strong as kaido period.
Context is woefully missing here. For example, it is pertinent to consider that Zoro's greatest feat thus far, speed blitzing Kaido and scarring him, was done AFTER breaking 20+ bones and BEFORE even understanding what conqueror's coating was. It is also important to consider that he fought King within minutes of breaking said bones, fighting two yonko and being knocked unconscious and only was allowed to make a hasty, albeit temporary recovery via asspull medical plot armor, which was still explicitly stated to be uncomprehensive. Sure Law tanked hits that knocked Zoro out, but it matters what Zoro had been hit with before by comparison to what Law had been hit with. Sure Law had attack power feats that seem above Zoro's, but once again, it matters what context these attacks were struck in.
Even if Laws awakening can break bones Zoro has shown multiple endurance feats proving that he can still endure having even all his bones broken. Even pre ts when he took all of Luffys pain. Him blocking the combined attack getting his bones broken and being able to use his strongest attack 9ss Ashura is a feat. They both have the strength to greatly damage each other so it all balls down to endurance, and Zoros endurance is unmatched.
@@tiltzzzz7770 Ashura would be much more devastating on Law then Puncture Willie on Zoro. Zoro has shown he can tank multiple internal attacks and can have his bones broken and still fight. Law had only been seen tanking blunt attacks and not sword attacks especially imbued with Adv conq and Ryou.
@@k1ngofel1te6 Yeah Zoro has more durability than Law, but Law has more AP than Zoro. Ultimately they can 1 shot each other with their ultimate attacks so it’s redundant.
@@k1ngofel1te6 not really law took kaidos conquers haki so he should be able to take that as well as his puncture willie doing similar damage as a gear 5 luffy
@@k1ngofel1te6 dude if law hits Zoro with a puncture willie Zoro is going to be one shotted at most 2 shotted big moms durability is far better than zoros
i'd argue that laws attack power in itself is not that insane, it's just that it bypasses any defense. Big moms iron balloon that makes her nigh un damageable, (which seems to be her conquers coating as when she got shocked by the picture of mother being broken she lost that defense) Does not help against law, nor does Kaidos conquers coating and tough zoan fruit durability. It's like zoro can cut halfway through a tank let's say but law can drop a grenade inside it. Zoro's power is stronger but Laws bypass makes it equal if not better in some cases. And the whole "portrayal" thing about Zoro not being the captain and not fighting the yonko is kind of meh imo. Oda always writes Zoro out of the story when it comes to the main bad, not because he cannot 1v1 them like Luffy but because Oda (imo) wants Luffy to get those fights because he is the main character. Just imagine if Zoro didn't block that combined attack and was relatively good. then i can easily see him and law or him and Kidd, taking down Big mom as an extreme diff. Zoro having to awaken his conquers coating in that fight instead of with King of course. Currently i think i sit at (made up numbers) Zoro, Law and Kidd at 98% and Luffy at 100% After wano
On top of that, Zoro was already unconscious before Kaido's attack, so we can't count that, as for Law taking normal Haki punches, I highly that's something Zoro couldn't do, Capone took punches from Big Mom, not to mention, Zoro was able to parry Kaido while he had broken bones. Not saying Zoro is on a different level to Law, I think they're on a similar level. But he can look passed the fact that Zoro scarred Kaido with broken bones and this was before his power up.
@@thestrongestman1008 bruh zoro never scared kaido lol, anime dit him bad, he was just surprised to see oden sword, and not a single page in manga showed zoro ahura trading blow with kaido lol, only anime things, and ashura attack was almost an off guard blow, if kaido wanted he could coat himself in haki minimizing the damages but we know the guy wanna test his opponents, he always let himself getting hit without even trying to defend with haki. The anime is doing kaido dirty sometimes, making base luffy and him flying everywhereand trading blows on equal standing, that only start to happen when luffy come back again with momo, in the manga kaido one shotted luffy again just after going hybrid with that ragnarok attack, lol. Or even in their first encounter luffy just got blitzed after he took human form, there was no power struggle.
laws portrayal cant be above zoro's they're both swordsman. Is law the man mihawk is waiting for💀 also u said kaido tagged law and zoro and zoro passed out yet u left out the fact that zoro tried to block hakai, had 30 broken bones and scarred kaido, and was already on his knees before kaido slammed him and law.
Law can have higher portrayal, he does have it since he’s a direct rival of Luffy. Narratively he should be above Zoro. You’re talking about endgame which is irrelevant.
Your take on this matter were pretty bad, you didnt even scale advCoC Zoro properly, Zoro without it was already able to overpower Kaidou, with it he would have done far better as we saw with Luffy going from being one shot material to being able to casually demolish Kaidou in base. The speed feats also go to Zoro as he was fast enough to intercept Hakid before Law could even move his finger to use his teleportation. You are pretty bad a scaling buddy
1. You can’t assume Zoro gets the same amp as Luffy as Rayleigh says everyone’s conqueror’s haki gets stronger as they do meaning there are different levels to it. Zoro’s KOH has 0 feats on par with Luffy’s Coating. 2.All of the Worst Gen were in shock when the attack came towards them. Law only tried to teleport after the attack had already met them. Zoro consistently swaps with King while Law has speed scaling directly to Kaido and Bigger Mom who are stronger than King
@@ReiStormie 1. So advCoC makes Luffy stronger but then in turn makes Zoro weaker? great argument! 2. Dont gloss over it, Zoro is much faster than Law, he was able to react faster than Law could teleport, anything you say to try and downplay this is pure BS at this point. So since Zoro had to go fight King it means all his feats on the roof which were far higher than Law's dont matter since he fought a YC1 and not a yonkou? great argument.
@@ReiStormie zoro speed blitzed kaido dawg.and he did not use acoc in ashura ,kaido was shocked when he found out that luffy does have acoc so that means he never encountered acoc on rooftop before luffy
When Zoro uses Ashura, he personally says by looking at Kaido "I used my strongest attack in my arsenal and you did not even fall down". While Law was doing most of the job in a fight against BM and taking her down. That should be it. End of discussion.
@@beepboop4833 he was using acoc and Kaido pointed it out, logic of lower mastery over Enma can be implemented on Law too, he can also develop new skills or sharpen existing ones during the battle, so power scaling is very edgy topic of discussion, as either of sides can suddenly take any power ups which is only up to Oda, if he decides that Zoro will one shot Law, that will be it, but for Wano arc, Law was stronger
@@tiltzzzz7770 Both 1st and 2nd time King used his Imperial flaming attack, he had his flame on.....so what makes you think it was off the 3rd time?? Every time his flames were off was to move at a top speed.....when he uses Imperial flame he is standing still so why would he put out his flame?? Lastly on the last panel of King if you look closely, there are flames behind him and the coloured spread showed it.
@@sisekodeyi6604 1. there is no official color spread of king and zoro final clash 2. There’s no flames on his back when zoro uses his final move on him I went back and checked. Zoro cut king 3 times after he unlocked coc coating, all 3 times his flames were off
@@tiltzzzz7770 Who said there's an official colour spread?? This was to show you that there was fire on his back when he cut him. You avoiding the question. Everytime King used his Imperial flaming attack he had his flame on his back, so why would it not be there on his final attack?? Zoro's words "You are blocking now...I though they weren't suppose to work". Meaning Zoro started to see that his attacks were working even with flames because he had them. There's a panel below "103 emotions" where they show King shocked, there are flames behind him.
It really amazes me that people think law wins against zoro… like several times in the history law was AMAZED at zoro strenght and is stated several times that haki>>>>>>>>> fruit powers
It amazes me that people think zoro currently can beat law. Law is not even bad at haki, he is just more devil fruit reliant. Haki takes stamina....We literally see Law one shot Vergo with Armament, mind you, Virgo was able to react to Sanji who has better observation than Zoro in punk hazard. Law one shotted him. We have seen Law get out of the worst situations with his DF. Big mom & kaido even commented on his DF abilities.
i think the haki surpasses all statement made by kaido is only applicable to the strongest haki fighterslike garp or roger this is shown by charecters like big mom being stated to be going all out without acoc implying her devil fruit and other forms of haki give her more o an amp than acoc which would go against kaidos statement of haki being supreme.not only that but if we go by that logic zoro > serphamin which doesnt make any sense as he needs kaku to pressure s hawk. hence i think the message the story is trying to convey is that haki beats devil fruit at its best . but if u have a op devil fruit and not so op ACOC USER LIKE ZORO WHO DOESNT EVEN HAVE EMMISION . him pusshing back is more similar to luffy using haki blasts in dresserosa to stun opponents then actual acoc . then the devil fruit user can win if he has better feats .
If someone wants to be moved by shambles they would be, take luffy for example. If law did shambles on him luffy would move not because law is stronger or has better haki but because luffy is okay with it happening. I think the same would apply to zoro in a serious fight I don’t think he’d allow himself to be moved by using his haki. If it’s a matter of armament haki we know zoro’s is stronger than laws as he could cut kaido without his blades breaking but law couldn’t cut him without his DF, and if it’s a conquerors haki thing then zoro still has law beat on that one as he’s got advanced haki and we don’t know if law even has base conquerors.
@jimohabdulqudus4283 he awakend off screen not fighting. Aka doing nothing in terms of anime. And endurance is basically what zoro is known since east blue. Guy is always injured
@@drdre1223 He awakened offscreen....Dude the show is basically showing the strawhats 70% of the time. It's only natural that it's an offscreen shit. That's like complaining that Akainu & Aokiji fight was offscreen. We literally see Law fight so much after getting injured in dressorosa....He literally fought the hardest and the most. And this is an overall matchup
I think it's safe to assume Zoro will achieve his dream of becoming the greatest swordsman, and this means defeating Mihawk, who is basically Shanks level and making one if not all three all his blades black. I highly doubt Law would ever be strong enough to defeat Mihawk, let alone gain all three types of advanced haki. What I'm basically saying is if Zoro isn't stronger than Law right now, which we don't really know. He sure as hell will be by the end of the manga.
No one is denying Zoro will be stronger than Law one day, it's arguing how they are now, not Eos, I imagine the new generation surpasses the old, so I disagree that law will forever be below mihawk so both Law and Zoro will be stronger than yonkos come EOS, zoro as the next sword god and Law due to needing to be string enough to know the true history of the world while the world government is on his ass, which he will need that yonko level strength in order to not be fucked with.
HOLD ON let me cook Law is gonna be the new whitebeard. Whitebeard is way stronger than Mihawk. SO.....Therefore that means at the end Law will become stronger.. But even if you dont believe that Law had more potential to be stronger in terms of more skills for his devil fruits haki and also his sword
The big draw back with law is landing attacks. When he uses his awakening he takes away the ability to room so has to rely on his physical stats to land the hit. Zoro wins because he can pressure land in cqc to stop him from using his big guns. Law's strong but has 3 major drawbacks.: 1. His abilities drain his stamina so he becomes weaker over a fight. 2. He has back physical stats compared to his level. 3. He has alot of trouble landing attacks and has only landed a attack by tricks or sneak attacks.
@@pattouco literally attacked him mid air after his crew blew him out of the sky. The only legit hit law has done to anyone strong is vergo and vergo intended to take the hit.
@@pattouco law's crew blow him out of the air then law attacked him. You are ability just deny reality I see. Show once outside of vergo's suicide dive has law ever landed a him by himself. He needs tricks and distraction for him to land his attacks it's part of his weakness. If law could just hit everyone he'd be the strongest character in the series as he'd just spam gk and kill everyone. But he can't do that because to land gk he'd need to rely on his physical ability which wouldn't work on anyone relatively strong.
I feel like law would win if they had equal stats just cause if his hax but since Zoro arguably has stronger haki and speed he could realistically blitz law and maybe negate his devil fruit with his haki
idk if he can blitz law. if BM and Kaido couldnt i guess zoro couldnt neither. specially if its raining Law can teleport in an instant. also the haki claims clearly state that techniques can only be negated if the difference is vast enough. Law is literally teleporting zoro all wano and hurting kaido and BM.
I think Wano Zoro has uncontrollable acoc haki, so I'll give it to Law for now. But that doesn't make Law the better swordsman, he would win because of his fruit powers. I think that might be the case with Shanks and Mihawk. If Shanks is stronger it's because he has superior haki not because he's a better swordsman than Mihawk.
Law isn't a swordsman lol, granted he fight with a sword, but just as a channel for his df abilities like fujitora, no 'real swordsman" has df in one piece, like zoro, mihawk, rayleigh, Cavendish, samurai from wano, etc. That doesn't mean you can't be a df user and a swordsman at the same time like kinemon.
Haki is part of high level swordsman fights, mihawk literally teach that to zoro firstly. If shanks has no df, or any other fighting style like rokushiki or the people from chinjao country, then mihawk is more likely stronger.
i mean yeah, law isnt a pure swordsman. he is more like BM. she is in theory a swordsman but her main fighting style is w her DF. Same thing w Law. his fruit is just so broken it doesnt make sense if he beats zoro its purely cuz he is full of hax
Zoro takes the W Zoro is much faster than Law. Has way better haki. Idk how taking big mom punches is better than Zoro taking hakai. A combined yonko attack. Also, Zoro did not fall unconscious after thunder bagua. Zoro tells Sanji Luffy figured something out. He just could not move anymore. Zoro with asura was able to blitz Kaido and scar him. Law will put up a good fight. But Zoro's endurance, AP, ans Haki will be to much for Law
Law can teleport Law was able to teleport luffy and Zoro. And luffy haki is wayyy better than Zoro Endurance goes to Law. Law alwyas says this is the last then after that you see him spamming his skills. While Zoro wo just verse King and won fainted after being healed to 90% AP GOES TO LAW BIG TIME. Shock Willie was able to injure Big mom twice in her strongest form that she even had to call him dangerous. Also Big mom durability is way higher than Zoro. Puncture Willie had the same impact has gear 5 luffy final attack against Kaido
It’s funny how you explained the difference between durability and endurance and then go on to misinterpret king blocking zoros attack makes him more durable than Kaido, king had to block zoros dragon twister Kaido just took it head on that doesn’t make king more durable bc he had to BLOCK man this fandom is slow
Law awakening is useless if he doesn't have an ally with him, that's what he said. Also Law durability is lower than Zoro, without Zoro, they would all be wiped out by the combo attack from the Yonkos. It would be weird for Law to not stay conscious from tanking 1 Thunder Bagua when he didn't get damaged as much as Zoro
I think powerful haki can only nullify certain df abilities that last on your body, even when the user isn't touching u or attacking u anymore like when aokiji turn u into ice, or sugar transforming you, or doc q, boa Hancock bit I'mnot sure since it'sher main ability. Haki can't just negate df abilities, only sea stone ( weaken), and blackbeard df( nullify literally)when in contact with a df user, like when law break out of doc q power, doc q could still turn him in woman again if he hit him, if haki was nullifying df powers like blackbeard fruit, law wouldn't be transformed in the first place. Haki is a counter to logia intagibity and certain paramecia invulnerable to certain type of attacks like luffy or baggy but it's not a counter to df in general, it depend on the fruit, like for example if u touch a df user with haki, he still keeps his abilities, and isn't weakened at all, it just by pass his df body, and hit his "real body".
Lol Zoro mid diffs Law. You talking about "law reacts to it and that" but Zoro literally blitzed hybrid Kaido while he was injured. You are being very biased here. Law‘s feats you mentioned are just laughable. Half dead Zoro blitzed hybrid kaido and later got even stronger while Law needs Kid to distract BM all the time
Keep in mind IT was Big Mom and King. It is stated that the level between the 1st commander is the Yanko is huge. It might not have even been Big Mom first commander but Big mom and Kaido are equal prove me wrong
@@wisdombeji8232 What are you even talking about? Acoc Zoro was dominating king low diff, king couldn’t even land one single strike to Zoro after the power up. Mind you it was an exhausted and wounded Zoro at that. There is no such thing as 1st commander level, Zoro could easily 1vs2 against King and Katakuri or Marco BM is not equal to Kaido feats wise. She got nerved to hell but that’s not my problem in an argument
I remember one law struggling in the whole arc.And all of this ends at monster abilities and ad conq lets drop some names Roger whitebeard oden rayleigh thats zoro calliber right now
Zoro has Conquerors Haki, Law doesn't. Zoro defeated King, who is definitely stronger than Doffy, while Law lost horribly. That win against Big Mom with Kidd and Law was plot armor. Plus, Bug Mom basically lost because of the huge bomb. Zoro stronger.
funny how defeating a yonko and carrying Kidd is plot armour but zoro awakening conquerors haki in a night and mastering the advance version in a few hours isnt. yall just pick and choose. law on top.
I'm just happy you clarified Zoro held off the combo attack for a moment. Some Zoro fanboys think he flat out deflected it which is blatantly wrong
No one say he deflected it. Some zoro haters acting like it wasnt agreat feat.
@@boredalot I promise you there are people who think he did. It was a fantastic feat for Zoro, but some people gotta be honest ya know. Also I love both Law and Zoro
It was more than a second, watch the anime.
@@gaeron1305 it's just a phrase bud. I'm not down playing. Edited to moment if that makes you feel better
zorotardsare the worst fans i ever seen in my life
I am completely 50/50 on this. If they clashed it wouldn't surprise me who would win since one is as likely as another. This is a damned good match. I wouldn't seriously argue with any result.
Nah lol Zoro wins mid diff at best. Law has no feats compared to Zoro. How about you break law‘s bones and everything like Zoro had and then let him try to blitz Kaido or let him clash with Kaido. Also Kaido easily blitzed law but this dude never mentioned that while Zoro only took damage because he saved everyone.
Also Kaido‘s durability is much better than that of BM + King is even faster than Kaido since he managed to disappear in front of Zoro‘s eyes due to the immense speed but Zoro still managed to block those high speed attack.
I have a few problems with this, that I want to clarify. I hope you read it.
1 - Zoro did not use ACoC vs Kaido, yes he demonstrated his CoC, but that does not mean he used ACoC, as we have seen people like Kat, Doffy and Chinjao exert CoC when they attack, without using ACoC, also Kaido, who put Luffy above all other 4 Supernova in terms of power, doubts and mocks Luffy, thinking he would not be able to use ACoC, if Zoro actually used ACoC there, Kaido would not doubt or mock Luffy, he would anticipate it.
2 - KoH is stronger than Ashura and that is implied in the fight with King. Zoro states that it was his strength(haki) that was lacking beforehand, so he could not use ACoC or Enma at its fullest, which would also include Ashura, as that attack was used prior to KoH, meaning each and every attack Zoro used in KoH would scale higher than Dead Man's Game(or Farce of the Dead, depends on translation), that he used against Kaido.
3 - Zoro is faster than law, by a lot as well. They might be comparable when Zoro is not using his attacks, but there is one significant difference, when Zoro uses blitzing attacks, like Shishi Sonson, DDG(dead man game), Purgatory Onigiri, etc. he becomes way faster, to the point that he was able to blitz Kaido(Hybrid mode), something Law has never done and was only getting hits on, if Kaido was off-guard or letting him do it. Zoro has also blitzed BM twice, one time whilst having 20-30 broken bones.
4 - Haki blooms are important, whenever a character in OP goes through extreme conditions in a fight or unlocks a new type of haki, their haki blooms which also increases physical stats, for example base Luffy went from getting blitzed by base Kaido to going toe to toe with Hybrid Kaido, that would also affect Zoro, meaning he would be even faster in KoH than anytime beforehand.
5 - Possibility of KoH Ashura is still there, yes Zoro would probably be able to use that once, but it would be fast enough to blitz Law, as Law was getting tagged by Zeus and Prometheus, Zoro would not have problem tagging or blitzing Law with his attacks.
1. I’ve had this argument in the past and it’s mostly an interpretation thing. I would say ut makes more sense for it to be ACoC but you can disagree
2.I already agreed in the video
3.Zoro can be faster with certain attacks but its not a huge difference, ie Shishi Sonson vs Kaku, where Zoro and Kaku are relative and Kaku can react to it. So its not just a blitz difference in speed. Zoro didn’t blitz Kaido in Ashura he was able to overpower his blows which knocked him off balance allowing Zoro to cut him with Dead Mans Game
4.This is kind of a mute point considering Law also fought on the roof so by your own logic he would bloom as well. Since Zoro is fighting a weaker opponent(King) it is hard to tell how much stronger or faster he has gotten overall. Plus if you really want to use blooms Law would get one from from fighting BM, I don’t use blooms unless they are quantifiable through feats.
5. I also don’t use hypotheticals, like I wouldn’t assume Demon Robin can just clone herself multiple times if she hasn’t done it on screen. The battles I do are more grounded to avoid headcanon scenarios
Thanks for watching/giving your opinion, I appreciate it
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1 - I can see why it is an interpretation thing.
2 - I am pretty sure Kaku did not react to Shi Shi son son, Zoro did not even use it when he fought Kaku, or fought alongside him, he actually used Purgatory Onigiri, which does not seem to be as effective as Shishi Sonson for example, as Zoro holds Shishi Sonson as one of his most lethal attacks, while he just spams PO, plus Kaku can also be seen using a blitzing attack alongside Zoro, my problem is that, Law does not have anything like that.
3 - I guess u can be right, but even like that Law's haki would bloom less, as Zoro was in more critical situation and he also achieved a new type of haki, even if u want to disregard the ''extreme situation'' part,
Zoro still achieved a new type of haki, which consistently amps users in stats.
4 - U can say that, definitely, but I am saying that there always is a possibility of that happening.
In manga Zoro did not have seem to overpowered Kaido, they clashed a little and Kaido was preparing for an attack, the scene was pretty different from Anime, when u look at it.
Either way, if Law gets hit by one of KoH attacks, he is pretty much dead, as each KoH attack scales over rooftop Ashura and if that was able to scar Kaido, Law will just straight up lose a limb or smth to one of KoH attacks and Law is definitely getting hit, as Zoro(blitz attack) > Zoro=Law, in terms of speed.
I also have a greater way for Zoro's speed scaling, but that would require me to post panels from the manga, so if u want to we can continue this in discord.
Classic zorotard😂
@@hitetsu9180 I’ll continue on discord with u lol, i like how you debate
On number one, you're incorrect. You can't scar Kaido with a sword unless you're using advanced conquerors. That was the whole point of Oda showing the scabbards fighting Kaido first. They all could used advanced armament. That allowed them to cut Kaido but not scar him. Advanced armament is too shallow to scar or seriously injure Kaido. Luffy said that himself.
What happened in the Zoro vs. Kaido scene is that Zoro realized he was on his last legs and decided to go full power. He allowed Enma to absorb the maximum amount of haki he has. He had conquerors haki. Enma added that haki and coated his swords with it. Zoro was not conscious of his own ability.
LETS GO LAW RAAHHHIn all seriousness, this video was amazing Storm, love the editing and analysis. I wanna see more outta you so keep it up👍
I don't think Zoro is taking a game knife and keep fighting at full power
he dies or gets koed but barely alive after
Zoro is no stranger to pain
I don't thin Law is standing after an Adv. CoC Ashura. Zoro is not a stationary target like BM/Kaido. Also, Zoro Perma scarred Kaido with all of his Bones broken.
@@drdre1223 thats cause my guy has plot armour if he was no stranger to pain then were was that stregnth against kuma in sabaody or kizaru ? like my guy can still attack with 20 broken bones so just being injured shouldnt hold him back from fighting kizaru or running for his life instead my guy was helplessly waiting for kizaru to kill him .
law is not able to move yonko level haki users and theres no indication zoro has yonko haki, so him being able to move zoro is more likelly than him not being able to. also note that law had to aweken his fruit to match a normal quake quake attack which just goes to show that the gap between the quake and the rest of the paramicia class is huge even vs laws fruit which is arguably the second strongest paramicia fruit.
Not to mention that Law already moved Zoro a bunch of times during roof piece lol
I don’t think it’s comparable, if someone wants to be moved by shambles they would be, take luffy for example. If law did shambles on him luffy would move not because law is stronger or has better haki but because luffy is okay with it happening. I think the same would apply to zoro in a serious fight I don’t think he’d allow himself to be moved by using his haki. If it’s a matter of armament haki we know zoro’s is stronger than laws as he could cut kaido without his blades breaking but law couldn’t cut him without his DF, and if it’s a conquerors haki thing then zoro still has law beat on that one as he’s got advanced haki and we don’t know if law even has base conquerors.
@@post8103 Nah because Law has moved his enemies around too like Doffy who at the time had stronger haki than Law. From what Law was saying, BM and Kaidos haki were so astronomically high he couldn't use shambles on them. But that was the only technique they negated. Law was still using a bunch of other DF abilities on them like the Gamma knife, the injection shot, the shock, and the puncture wille etc. So I think personally it's a matter of haki. You can negate some abilities if you have stronger haki, but depending on the other person's haki, you wont be able to negate everything. Respect your take tho
@@maliklofton9148 that’s wat Law said himself he wouldn’t be able to move them at will because of their haki, Idk it’s weird
@@TheLockerRoomVidss Yeah I think Oda needs to flesh out the haki negation just a bit more. Also another thing is Zoro not having full control over Enma. 1063 Law said it takes a lot of haki to negate DF abilities. So now he's got Enma draining him and apparently has to use more haki to negate some of Laws attacks.
L. Listened to the whole thing while driving. Zoro is much faster and more durable than Law. No debate. If Law endured Big Mom’s haki punches, that only means Zoro could even better.
The only thing you got right is that Law and Kid have better portrayal. Law fighting BB and Kid possibly fighting Shanks is crazy. Zoro is going to fight Yonko-level Mihawk, but later on in the story.
Feats go to Zoro. Portrayal goes to Law.
I would say Law has the feats at least for now, Zoro winning isn’t impossible tho
I don't even know that portrayal goes to law, I mean the stuff with blackbeard is cool and all but every character who has faced black beard has got hits off on him. Also he and kid fought 2 on 1 vs big mom and won y knocking her off the island not out. Also advanced conqueror's seems to be the end all be all. The last pirate king was top 1 or 2 and he had no devil fruit.
Kid on the other hand could be interesting if he unlocks advanced conqueror's and has an awakening and his crazy durability he will for sure be the whitebeard to luffys Rodger. But so far he honestly has been the 2nd weakest of the rooftop fighters. But again we all have opinions I can see how some people might see his portrayal as better. But considering they are both swordsmen and zoro is going to be the strongest he is portrayed and has the feats.
@@drew-lp4zh would it have been better if they fought big mom on the ground😂 then she would’ve gone deeper into the lava and burned to death faster😂that doesn’t count as a ring out . Imagine telling Superman he can’t punch someone into the sun because it’s a ring out😂. They were just that strong
@@snowinouterspace1883 it would have been better if she was koed and fell like kaodo lmfao 💀 🤣 😂 she was having a full on convo with herself in the air lol and again 2 v 1 how are they comparable to luffy in any way. They are not rivals unless kid unlocks advanced conqueror's or they both win there one on one vs the yanko they are fighting. Shit big mom didn't even use her conqueror's vs them lol
@@ReiStormie what better feats?
The only feat Law has over Zoro for now is DC that's it and that attack took a lot of prep time, Zoro has Law beat in every stat
I think 1 thing ya didn't mention was the monster upgrade of advanced conqueror's it took luffy from getting dominated to clashing with kaodo in base. So if we pretend that zoro was using advanced even though there was no black lightning streaks then he was only drawing it out in Emma because it forced it out.with that we could assume that king of hell asura would have heavily damaged kaido atleast by a multitudeof 3. But I really liked the video I just think with the conqueror's upgrade and the fact that they are both swordsmen zoro would win, his goal is to be the strongest wouldn't make much since for law to be stronger as a swordsmen himself. But like all powers scaling we won't know unless they fight.
agree with everything but law wins for now
Also gotta rememeber kaido didn't use coating vs zoro either so it really might not make a difference. Despite both Yamato and luffy learning it kaido can easly counter zoros with his own. Though I agree obv coating zoro does a little better.
Yea, the conq upgrade gives Zoro the edge imo
Big mom was using Advanced conquers during their fight and he was able to tank attacks from her. That's higher ap than anything zoro can dish out. Law has a better track history against stronger people. Hes so strong blackbeard had to be cautious against him.
@@WristTapeDrowzzy idk about big mom using adv conq because there are plenty of panels where she didn't use it, big mom was also cautious about Zoro, hence why she yelled at kaido to dodge, and that was before zoro knew what he was doing. It's undebatable that king is tankier than law. Law is not tanking any attack from king of hell Zoro, that's just ridiculous.
Zoro isn’t stronger / can’t beat big mom so law got the dub tbh.
Zoro doesn’t have the haki or DF like big mom did he has less going for him
This isn’t something I ever thought about. Thought it was a given law would win. Based off of how the story is written narratively, kid and law being luffys rivals. And laws devil fruit is prolly the most hax df in the series
It's pretty obvious since Dressrosa that Law isn't at Luffy's level, it isn't a stretch to believe Zoro and he are at the same level.
@@pkj2148 it’s not about being on his level but relative. They are all in that admiral tier of fighters. Luffy being on the higher end while kid and law being on the lower end right around sabo and Ben beckman imo
LMAO the KIdd/Law being rivals stuff again. So was Zoro early in the story. And no, Kidd/Law were always shown to be quite a bit behind Luffy.
Also look the the rivals shit turned out in that last chapter LMAO
dude you are super underrated keep up the good work.
Amazingly put. Law wins in a close fight imo
Not gonna jump in the bandwagon on who will win. But Law is not more durable than Zoro.
From the start of the manga when it comes to Zoro, Oda was always focus in his durability, more than anything else.
Although I agree with you for the most part about law being more impressive as a whole ,but we do need to acknowledge that the zoro who fought king and won is 100% stronger than the one who clashed vs kaido reasons are:
-that zoro was nerfed barley being able to move having less control on his sword enma and not showing definitively if he is using acoc(not being able to use it at wil)
-the one who fought king showed having much control on enma after he unlocked acoc at will and also we know that the the conquerors haki of the person will grow as he fights powerful enemies and we all agree that zoro did become stronger after fighting king which would clearly mean a healthy KOH (better control acoc and enma) zoro >ashura rooftop and we know luffy and Yamato with acoc have managed to fight kaido for a long time , unfortunately we won’t know how a KOH zoro would fair against hybrid kaido, for to mention yes zoro does have a time limit but so does law he also did say awakening take extreme amount of energy so he was not using it actively like zoro has been vs king nonetheless these were wano law and zoro, law clearly have improved his haki since then and might also improved in using his awakenings but I would like to say the same about zoro and kid , it has been a few chapters and we saw zoro using enma and having no issues in controlling it , as for kid am sure he will show something vs shanks overall I agree that law might be stronger but that will also depend on how his fight would go vs bb after he is “rival to luffy” would be shame to get defeated and lose his ponyglph it won’t look good
Zoro is stronger than Law. Do you really think Law can beat Katakuri? Mama just got unlucky cos she can’t fight in air. If it was ground ain’t no way they are beating Mama. Luffy now can beat Kaido 1 v 1 but it will but not Kid or Law. Kaido knockout, Mama wasn’t she fell off Onigashima that’s the difference
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@@jarinxcii263 law is obliterating Katakuri lol
@@jarinxcii263 law destroys katakuri
@@jarinxcii263 lax lox diff katakuri and mid diffs zoro
The only thing i see in the comment section are Zorotards crying 😂
Ong lmao
Law carrying the fight with a serious BM while Zoro nearly dies fighting King. This man Law is consistently injuring Yonko now. Zoro ain't doing that. It's not hard to comprehend but some people cant think while they have Zoros dick in their mouth🤣
@@maliklofton9148 frl 😂
@Malik Lofton let's not forget how there so quick to point out "going toe to toe with kaido and not having coating yet " but fail to realise kaido still beat zoros strongest form without using any haki. They fail to realise kaido too didn't use haki and still had future sight in his bag too let alone drunk mode that drastically increases haki.
@@Iroh10800 That toe to toe argument is so exaggerated. Man got one cut in and was done. "BUT HE SCARED KAIDO THO!!!!" Who cares. I dont even hate Zoro. But his fanboys are irritating. The only person who can say they went toe to toe with Kaido that night is Luffy. And even after unlocking AC & G5, Kaido was holding it down
W channel bro and great scaling
Law doesn't have more attack power/potency than Zoro. A 30 broken boned, ryou Ashura managed to scar a hybrid kaido › dragon form kaido. The mink recovery drug healed the bones but didn't take away the all pain and fatigue of roofpiece, he went on to fight the 3rd strongest character who basically dealt with fodder and ganged up on Marco beforehand. King who has better durability, agility and speed than big mom threw around Zoro and Zoro couldn't even cut him whether the flames were on or off. Until he got AdCoC and ended the fight in 3 hits.
KoH is significantly stronger than Ashura because it's an AdCoC attack and the current Egghead Island Zoro doesn't have a time limit. He only said the sword will kill him if it kept on exuding that much haki because he was already at his limit. Dragon blaze, Dragon Twister, using his haki to coat his swords and himself to block hakai and Ashura all used a lot of haki. So his haki was depleted and it was further depleted because enma kept taking more than it should during the king fight, this will obviously lead to greater haki bloom to satisfy enma which is something that only Oden did, who is in kaido's top 5. After the cliff cutting scene, he said Oden welded enma like a feather and if he got used to it, he'd be that much stronger.
Oden was able to use enma without it draining his haki and we see Zoro using enma casually on egghead meaning the sword will not suck the life out of him anymore. KoH is just Zoro using AdCoC, all the other AdCoC users don't have a limit, so should a fully fit Zoro.
Using the awaken law clashing with Blackbeard statement only helps zoro's case since Roger an AdCoC user was able to counter whitebeards quake powers, haki transcends all df abilities. Law who is a swordsman using his awakening is clashing with Blackbeard, don't you think Zoro using AdCoC wouldn't be able to clash with Blackbeard? Do you think Blackbeard or law can tank KoH attacks or react to zoro's blitz attacks.
Do you really think law can tag current Zoro, who reacted to a slash mid sleep, with enma? Law is a swordsman and he will never be stronger than Zoro, the captain rivalry portrayal is not greater than the WSS portrayal.
Minks medic literally made zoro like new lol, also the ashura was zoro max output of haki, even vs king he didn't used it, and no way u think king is durable than big mom lol, flame mode is arguable, but base big mom his far more durable than anything flame off king showed lol, in sheer durability only big mom comes close to kaido, she's a natural born monster. Law attack potency is indeed greater than Zoro's, law was able w his df to hurt big mom so badly she was trying to avoid him at all cost, even kaido commented on law abilities. Plus the versatility his df grant him is greater than zoro who is a swordsman, what if law created a room and teleport even one of zoro's swords ? I know this is kinda bullshit way to think but really zoro at this moment can't beat law, if zoro lands a powerful attack on law it will inflict good amount of damage since law isn't as durable as zoro, but he can still tanks things, like when he was tanking punches from a amplified big mom who his stronger than her regular form. I see it this way, attack potency : law, defense: law, strength: zoro, durability: zoro, hax: law, close combat skill: zoro, haki: zoro, range : law, IQ: law ( arguable... or not ?), feats: law.
Whitebeard didn't use quake against roger, it was never shown,. Also law isn't a swordsman, having a sword and being a swordsman is different things in one piece, are big mom, whitebeard, fujitora swordsmen ? I think no all these people used the sword as a channel to make a certain use of their main weapon aka their df. On the other hand people like rayleigh, zoro, mihawk, shanks, Cavendish,etc are swordsmen because all the guys are at their peak with their sword, if u take the sword, u nerf them by around 60 to 80 percent of their full power, if u take laws sword he woul us like 10 to 20 percent.
Do you honestly believe king has better durability than big mom? cause that's insane, the drug healed him up and mended his injuries from roofpiece, the whole fight with king was focusing on knowing WHEN to attack him, is any coincidence that king got blitzed with an adv coc attack when his flames were off? No it wasn't. Being able to break big mom's bones single handedly when she's a freak of nature is far more impressive then roughing flame off king, it's not in the same category at all, being able to scar kaido is notable but there's also the issue of hax, which zoro's haki cannot negate, put very simply. Law runs circles around him with the teleporting and can destroy him with awakening, this fight is in law's favor through and through. and in terms of Portrayel, law is not portrayed as someone who focuses on swordsmanship so the WSS protrayel is a useless arguement when it's about supernova portrayel atm. Law is aswordsman but he uses a sword in the same way big mom does, meaning as an extention of his other abilities so that renders the WSS bs even more pointless. Will zoro surpass law? Probably, but he ain't there yet, and that's how it's gonna be for a while longer.
Don't forget Law IQ/Intelligence. More Smarter than Zoro. He will win for sure.
So in the end, ussop low diffs
More like no diffs
Great video. You should do
Kid vs Yamato
Sanji vs Marco
Katakuri vs King
Killer vs Jinbe
Please
i agree
Kid
Marco
Katakuri
Jinbe
@@Chaosking707 no way u think katakuri beats king lol, katakuri only hax was adv observation haki, his durability is mid, attack power is mid too, also defense. King with flames on is practically invincible, even with flame off he seem to have better durability than katakuri also his fire could potentially counter kata mochi. Let's even ignore the fact that katakuri has to stay calm and cool headed to use future sight, king speed mode blitz zoro many times, and speed is basically the counter to future sight, as we see in snakeman vs katakuri or even when luffy used future sight but still couldn't dodge a attack from kaido. King is stronger than katakuri, at least in my pov.
Zorro stopped the craziest attack ever... While law wanted to move
Zoro slowed down a crazy attack 😂before being teleported out the way so he doesn’t end up like a dbz villain. It’s a testament to his character to try to sacrifice himself but that’s all it is. A character feat while showing it’s a decent strenght feat.
@@snowinouterspace1883 Exactly 💯.
If I throw myself onto a grenade to protect people around me, am I a badass? Sure. But I'm a dead badass.
(Unless one of those people is also a badass with teleportation powers 😉)
Zoro Stans are coping hard
For like 5 seconds AND broke every bone in his body to do so…
They're extremely close honestly, I'd give it to Zoro, more experience, physically stronger, better haki.
I could respect that
More experienced?
@@gdp4467 more experienced, physically stronger, better haki, better/more training, what do you disagree with and why?
@@YungRoronoa_YT I agree with physically stronger and better haki ofc but not really with more experienced. Law has been a captain of his own crew since he was a preteen and a member of a crime family before that where he was taught a variety of fighting techniques armed an unarmed.
@@gdp4467 Zoro was sword fighting and beating seasoned, trained adults at 10, him and kuina had 2000 sword duels before he turned 11, then became bounty hunter, then became a strawhat, definitely more experience and better/more training than law
While Law is extremely impressive and his DF is top tier, I definitely feel like he is carried by it, and rightfully so, but Zoro is one of a handful of people to wield a black blade although he didn't make it, still wielding it is a great feat ontop of that he has the ability to wield Enma and Advanced haki
Law isn't a swordsman. Zoro isn't the one single handedly fighting am entire yonko crew so... unlit proven otherwise Law > Zoro
Zoro is also not a swordsman, he is a hakiman like Shanks, Roger and Rayliegh.
Whether he swordsman or not..
Law using his sword.. combine it with his ability, same like Fujitora
So oda lied
@@shasha023 zoro is a swordsman idiot
law is that dude he will easily kill zoro
Great music choice
Zoro fanboys are so in denial they make real zoro fans like myself look bad. Law is clearly stronger yet zoro fanboys always make it seem like zoro is top 5 in the verse 🤦🏽♂️ this has been happening since forever and will never change. One of the worst thing about the one piece fandom is the fanboyism and the kings of it are the zorotards I swear 😂🤦🏽♂️ this is a close fight but law wins clearly. Idk how it’s even a debate
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zoro was still conscious after taking the thunder bagua which he and law received
No he wasn't
One thing people need to get straight is that Enma is not a " power boost " in the normal sense . Enma does not give Zoro power , it is stated in the Manga and anime that Enma extracts the users Haki and forces said Haki into itself ( hence why we see when Enma takes Zoro's Haki, Zoro's arm get drained of eveything . Not to mentionin the manga and anime , its said that if it were anyone Else using Enma , they would be reducedto nothing but a husk a dead shell ), so all the "new" power is all Zoro's , not Enmas . Zoro won't get weaker if he decideds to leave Enma .
The zoro fanboys in this comment section is crazy🤣talking about "zoro was way stronger when fighting king" naaa its just that king is world apart from being as strong as kaido period.
Law>zoro bro taking on all of blackbeards crew by himself and his awakening give him the edge
Context is woefully missing here.
For example, it is pertinent to consider that Zoro's greatest feat thus far, speed blitzing Kaido and scarring him, was done AFTER breaking 20+ bones and BEFORE even understanding what conqueror's coating was.
It is also important to consider that he fought King within minutes of breaking said bones, fighting two yonko and being knocked unconscious and only was allowed to make a hasty, albeit temporary recovery via asspull medical plot armor, which was still explicitly stated to be uncomprehensive.
Sure Law tanked hits that knocked Zoro out, but it matters what Zoro had been hit with before by comparison to what Law had been hit with. Sure Law had attack power feats that seem above Zoro's, but once again, it matters what context these attacks were struck in.
This is a closer fight pre df awakening but Law still takes it. His bag is too deep for Zoro to keep up and Lord forbid it's raining when they fight
Zoro is overrated.. Bb would've won the fight by now if it its Zoro who he is fighting and not Law.
Even if Laws awakening can break bones Zoro has shown multiple endurance feats proving that he can still endure having even all his bones broken.
Even pre ts when he took all of Luffys pain. Him blocking the combined attack getting his bones broken and being able to use his strongest attack 9ss Ashura is a feat.
They both have the strength to greatly damage each other so it all balls down to endurance, and Zoros endurance is unmatched.
Yeah but puncture will or shock wille would be more devastating on Zoro than they were on Big Mom. Puncture Wille could potentially 1 shot Zoro.
@@tiltzzzz7770 Ashura would be much more devastating on Law then Puncture Willie on Zoro. Zoro has shown he can tank multiple internal attacks and can have his bones broken and still fight. Law had only been seen tanking blunt attacks and not sword attacks especially imbued with Adv conq and Ryou.
@@k1ngofel1te6 Yeah Zoro has more durability than Law, but Law has more AP than Zoro. Ultimately they can 1 shot each other with their ultimate attacks so it’s redundant.
@@k1ngofel1te6 not really law took kaidos conquers haki so he should be able to take that as well as his puncture willie doing similar damage as a gear 5 luffy
@@k1ngofel1te6 dude if law hits Zoro with a puncture willie Zoro is going to be one shotted at most 2 shotted big moms durability is far better than zoros
i'd argue that laws attack power in itself is not that insane, it's just that it bypasses any defense. Big moms iron balloon that makes her nigh un damageable, (which seems to be her conquers coating as when she got shocked by the picture of mother being broken she lost that defense) Does not help against law, nor does Kaidos conquers coating and tough zoan fruit durability.
It's like zoro can cut halfway through a tank let's say but law can drop a grenade inside it. Zoro's power is stronger but Laws bypass makes it equal if not better in some cases.
And the whole "portrayal" thing about Zoro not being the captain and not fighting the yonko is kind of meh imo. Oda always writes Zoro out of the story when it comes to the main bad, not because he cannot 1v1 them like Luffy but because Oda (imo) wants Luffy to get those fights because he is the main character.
Just imagine if Zoro didn't block that combined attack and was relatively good. then i can easily see him and law or him and Kidd, taking down Big mom as an extreme diff. Zoro having to awaken his conquers coating in that fight instead of with King of course.
Currently i think i sit at (made up numbers) Zoro, Law and Kidd at 98% and Luffy at 100% After wano
On top of that, Zoro was already unconscious before Kaido's attack, so we can't count that, as for Law taking normal Haki punches, I highly that's something Zoro couldn't do, Capone took punches from Big Mom, not to mention, Zoro was able to parry Kaido while he had broken bones. Not saying Zoro is on a different level to Law, I think they're on a similar level. But he can look passed the fact that Zoro scarred Kaido with broken bones and this was before his power up.
Didn’t all the supernovas think that Zoro should have been or was strong enough to be a supernova captain?
@@FTL_SAN i mean pretty much everyone that encounter him states something like it.
@@FTL_SAN Exactly, great point.
@@thestrongestman1008 bruh zoro never scared kaido lol, anime dit him bad, he was just surprised to see oden sword, and not a single page in manga showed zoro ahura trading blow with kaido lol, only anime things, and ashura attack was almost an off guard blow, if kaido wanted he could coat himself in haki minimizing the damages but we know the guy wanna test his opponents, he always let himself getting hit without even trying to defend with haki. The anime is doing kaido dirty sometimes, making base luffy and him flying everywhereand trading blows on equal standing, that only start to happen when luffy come back again with momo, in the manga kaido one shotted luffy again just after going hybrid with that ragnarok attack, lol. Or even in their first encounter luffy just got blitzed after he took human form, there was no power struggle.
laws portrayal cant be above zoro's they're both swordsman. Is law the man mihawk is waiting for💀 also u said kaido tagged law and zoro and zoro passed out yet u left out the fact that zoro tried to block hakai, had 30 broken bones and scarred kaido, and was already on his knees before kaido slammed him and law.
Law isn't a swordsman
Law can have higher portrayal, he does have it since he’s a direct rival of Luffy. Narratively he should be above Zoro. You’re talking about endgame which is irrelevant.
@@alkezar9542 yes, only in Shanks Piece
@@shasha023wow.. where do that come from? you must be shanks hater
@@ReiStormiehe's not luffy's rival, in dressrosa he was crying asking luffy to save him
And after wano, there's huge power difference
What's the music that starts playing at the law section?
Found it, it's called Warzone from Anno Domini Beats.
Opbr character icons nice
Your take on this matter were pretty bad, you didnt even scale advCoC Zoro properly, Zoro without it was already able to overpower Kaidou, with it he would have done far better as we saw with Luffy going from being one shot material to being able to casually demolish Kaidou in base.
The speed feats also go to Zoro as he was fast enough to intercept Hakid before Law could even move his finger to use his teleportation.
You are pretty bad a scaling buddy
1. You can’t assume Zoro gets the same amp as Luffy as Rayleigh says everyone’s conqueror’s haki gets stronger as they do meaning there are different levels to it. Zoro’s KOH has 0 feats on par with Luffy’s Coating.
2.All of the Worst Gen were in shock when the attack came towards them. Law only tried to teleport after the attack had already met them. Zoro consistently swaps with King while Law has speed scaling directly to Kaido and Bigger Mom who are stronger than King
@@ReiStormie
1. So advCoC makes Luffy stronger but then in turn makes Zoro weaker?
great argument!
2. Dont gloss over it, Zoro is much faster than Law, he was able to react faster than Law could teleport, anything you say to try and downplay this is pure BS at this point.
So since Zoro had to go fight King it means all his feats on the roof which were far higher than Law's dont matter since he fought a YC1 and not a yonkou? great argument.
@@shasha023 bruh🗿
@@ReiStormie facts are facts, you were wrong accept it and move on
@@ReiStormie zoro speed blitzed kaido dawg.and he did not use acoc in ashura ,kaido was shocked when he found out that luffy does have acoc so that means he never encountered acoc on rooftop before luffy
When Zoro uses Ashura, he personally says by looking at Kaido "I used my strongest attack in my arsenal and you did not even fall down". While Law was doing most of the job in a fight against BM and taking her down. That should be it. End of discussion.
While having 20-30 broken bones and without even using acoc and with lower mastery over Enma.
@@beepboop4833 he was using acoc and Kaido pointed it out, logic of lower mastery over Enma can be implemented on Law too, he can also develop new skills or sharpen existing ones during the battle, so power scaling is very edgy topic of discussion, as either of sides can suddenly take any power ups which is only up to Oda, if he decides that Zoro will one shot Law, that will be it, but for Wano arc, Law was stronger
yeah law low diff or mid diffs zoro
@@beepboop4833 zoro is so boring ngl
@@nothanks1508 ok lol
I wanna see how zorro tanks 2 gamma knives 1 counter shock and 2 punk willies
Zoro can't beat Law😪
I don't know what you mean by the ambiguity about Zoro cutting King with his flames. Zoro did cut King with his flames
No he didn’t. Zoro only cut king when kings flames were off
@@tiltzzzz7770 Both 1st and 2nd time King used his Imperial flaming attack, he had his flame on.....so what makes you think it was off the 3rd time?? Every time his flames were off was to move at a top speed.....when he uses Imperial flame he is standing still so why would he put out his flame??
Lastly on the last panel of King if you look closely, there are flames behind him and the coloured spread showed it.
@@sisekodeyi6604 1. there is no official color spread of king and zoro final clash 2. There’s no flames on his back when zoro uses his final move on him
I went back and checked. Zoro cut king 3 times after he unlocked coc coating, all 3 times his flames were off
@@tiltzzzz7770 Who said there's an official colour spread?? This was to show you that there was fire on his back when he cut him.
You avoiding the question. Everytime King used his Imperial flaming attack he had his flame on his back, so why would it not be there on his final attack??
Zoro's words "You are blocking now...I though they weren't suppose to work".
Meaning Zoro started to see that his attacks were working even with flames because he had them.
There's a panel below "103 emotions" where they show King shocked, there are flames behind him.
@@sisekodeyi6604 The latest chapter (1077) confirmed my take. GG tho 💯
law is alot stronger than zoro while zoro barely beat king not only law beat big mom but he is mopping another yonko in bb
It really amazes me that people think law wins against zoro… like several times in the history law was AMAZED at zoro strenght and is stated several times that haki>>>>>>>>> fruit powers
It amazes me that people think zoro currently can beat law.
Law is not even bad at haki, he is just more devil fruit reliant.
Haki takes stamina....We literally see Law one shot Vergo with Armament, mind you, Virgo was able to react to Sanji who has better observation than Zoro in punk hazard.
Law one shotted him.
We have seen Law get out of the worst situations with his DF.
Big mom & kaido even commented on his DF abilities.
Very close fight but I think Zorro would win high extreme difficult.
i think the haki surpasses all statement made by kaido is only applicable to the strongest haki fighterslike garp or roger this is shown by charecters like big mom being stated to be going all out without acoc implying her devil fruit and other forms of haki give her more o an amp than acoc which would go against kaidos statement of haki being supreme.not only that but if we go by that logic zoro > serphamin which doesnt make any sense as he needs kaku to pressure s hawk.
hence i think the message the story is trying to convey is that haki beats devil fruit at its best .
but if u have a op devil fruit and not so op ACOC USER LIKE ZORO WHO DOESNT EVEN HAVE EMMISION . him pusshing back is more similar to luffy using haki blasts in dresserosa to stun opponents then actual acoc .
then the devil fruit user can win if he has better feats .
Honestly I don't know who would win, it could probably go either way, but people who say "zoro stomps" are reactionary fools
If someone wants to be moved by shambles they would be, take luffy for example. If law did shambles on him luffy would move not because law is stronger or has better haki but because luffy is okay with it happening. I think the same would apply to zoro in a serious fight I don’t think he’d allow himself to be moved by using his haki. If it’s a matter of armament haki we know zoro’s is stronger than laws as he could cut kaido without his blades breaking but law couldn’t cut him without his DF, and if it’s a conquerors haki thing then zoro still has law beat on that one as he’s got advanced haki and we don’t know if law even has base conquerors.
Logically it should be Zoro but realistically it's Law. Law gets stronger doing basically nothing. Goes from fighting doffy to kaido.
He had a freaking awakening & had more endurance.
He has even being showing crazy endurance since dressoraosa
@jimohabdulqudus4283 he awakend off screen not fighting. Aka doing nothing in terms of anime. And endurance is basically what zoro is known since east blue. Guy is always injured
@@drdre1223 He awakened offscreen....Dude the show is basically showing the strawhats 70% of the time.
It's only natural that it's an offscreen shit.
That's like complaining that Akainu & Aokiji fight was offscreen.
We literally see Law fight so much after getting injured in dressorosa....He literally fought the hardest and the most.
And this is an overall matchup
All just to lose to chopper base LoOL
yeah thats zoro
I think it's safe to assume Zoro will achieve his dream of becoming the greatest swordsman, and this means defeating Mihawk, who is basically Shanks level and making one if not all three all his blades black. I highly doubt Law would ever be strong enough to defeat Mihawk, let alone gain all three types of advanced haki. What I'm basically saying is if Zoro isn't stronger than Law right now, which we don't really know. He sure as hell will be by the end of the manga.
No one is denying Zoro will be stronger than Law one day, it's arguing how they are now, not Eos, I imagine the new generation surpasses the old, so I disagree that law will forever be below mihawk so both Law and Zoro will be stronger than yonkos come EOS, zoro as the next sword god and Law due to needing to be string enough to know the true history of the world while the world government is on his ass, which he will need that yonko level strength in order to not be fucked with.
Mihawk is stronger than Law.
At the end of One piece Zoro surpasses Mihawk.
Therefore, Zoro will surpass any swordsman also Law..
maybe at the end.we dont know. but RN law is stronger a tad bit.
HOLD ON let me cook
Law is gonna be the new whitebeard. Whitebeard is way stronger than Mihawk. SO.....Therefore that means at the end Law will become stronger..
But even if you dont believe that Law had more potential to be stronger in terms of more skills for his devil fruits haki and also his sword
The big draw back with law is landing attacks. When he uses his awakening he takes away the ability to room so has to rely on his physical stats to land the hit. Zoro wins because he can pressure land in cqc to stop him from using his big guns. Law's strong but has 3 major drawbacks.:
1. His abilities drain his stamina so he becomes weaker over a fight.
2. He has back physical stats compared to his level.
3. He has alot of trouble landing attacks and has only landed a attack by tricks or sneak attacks.
He didn't sneak blackbeard lmao
@@pattouco literally attacked him mid air after his crew blew him out of the sky. The only legit hit law has done to anyone strong is vergo and vergo intended to take the hit.
@@deanthonypatton1791 How Law can sneak attack Blackbeard if he's the only who the whole blackbeard pirates fight him lmao
@@pattouco law's crew blow him out of the air then law attacked him. You are ability just deny reality I see. Show once outside of vergo's suicide dive has law ever landed a him by himself. He needs tricks and distraction for him to land his attacks it's part of his weakness. If law could just hit everyone he'd be the strongest character in the series as he'd just spam gk and kill everyone. But he can't do that because to land gk he'd need to rely on his physical ability which wouldn't work on anyone relatively strong.
@@deanthonypatton1791 you can't be 3 billion and just sneak attack lmao
Zoro will win
law wins md diff
@@38achref26 Your in trouble should of become a strawhat now blackbeard gonna take your fruit
9:38 sooo 1v1 if we’re being honest law wins against bb.
I feel like law would win if they had equal stats just cause if his hax but since Zoro arguably has stronger haki and speed he could realistically blitz law and maybe negate his devil fruit with his haki
idk if he can blitz law. if BM and Kaido couldnt i guess zoro couldnt neither. specially if its raining Law can teleport in an instant. also the haki claims clearly state that techniques can only be negated if the difference is vast enough. Law is literally teleporting zoro all wano and hurting kaido and BM.
Law would win but zoro puts up a great fight
Poor boy u just dont understand powers and playing favorites law can only fight equally with sanji now and im not even sure about that anymore
hahahhahhhahhah are you good.
Zoro and Sanji are almost equal
You people think that if someone has ACoC then the game is over@@thecrimsonfucker1388
eren is winning this fight
I think Wano Zoro has uncontrollable acoc haki, so I'll give it to Law for now.
But that doesn't make Law the better swordsman, he would win because of his fruit powers.
I think that might be the case with Shanks and Mihawk. If Shanks is stronger it's because he has superior haki not because he's a better swordsman than Mihawk.
Law isn't a swordsman lol, granted he fight with a sword, but just as a channel for his df abilities like fujitora, no 'real swordsman" has df in one piece, like zoro, mihawk, rayleigh, Cavendish, samurai from wano, etc. That doesn't mean you can't be a df user and a swordsman at the same time like kinemon.
Haki is part of high level swordsman fights, mihawk literally teach that to zoro firstly. If shanks has no df, or any other fighting style like rokushiki or the people from chinjao country, then mihawk is more likely stronger.
i mean yeah, law isnt a pure swordsman. he is more like BM. she is in theory a swordsman but her main fighting style is w her DF. Same thing w Law. his fruit is just so broken it doesnt make sense if he beats zoro its purely cuz he is full of hax
Zoro takes the W
Zoro is much faster than Law. Has way better haki. Idk how taking big mom punches is better than Zoro taking hakai. A combined yonko attack. Also, Zoro did not fall unconscious after thunder bagua. Zoro tells Sanji Luffy figured something out. He just could not move anymore.
Zoro with asura was able to blitz Kaido and scar him. Law will put up a good fight.
But Zoro's endurance, AP, ans Haki will be to much for Law
Law can teleport
Law was able to teleport luffy and Zoro. And luffy haki is wayyy better than Zoro
Endurance goes to Law. Law alwyas says this is the last then after that you see him spamming his skills. While Zoro wo just verse King and won fainted after being healed to 90%
AP GOES TO LAW BIG TIME. Shock Willie was able to injure Big mom twice in her strongest form that she even had to call him dangerous. Also Big mom durability is way higher than Zoro.
Puncture Willie had the same impact has gear 5 luffy final attack against Kaido
@@wisdombeji8232 Zoro beats Law
Law fans am I right
Zoro beats Law!
Other than Blackbeard.
No one is stronger than Luffy or Zoro amongst all the supernovas. They’re not even close.
zoro is weaker than law and kid zoro will be dead if it was him vs bb
Zoro is definitely weaker than law lol....
The Zoro fan boys LOL
Haki over df
Zoro neg diffs
Bigmom was massively nerfed
Using df only
if haki is over df then both kaido and big mom would beaten awakend df of luffy law and kid
Big Mom wasn't nerfed she was in her strongest form
you people just like to glaze Zoro
It’s funny how you explained the difference between durability and endurance and then go on to misinterpret king blocking zoros attack makes him more durable than Kaido, king had to block zoros dragon twister Kaido just took it head on that doesn’t make king more durable bc he had to BLOCK man this fandom is slow
It couldn’t cut his raw wings, then he takes a lion song without blocking which is above dragon twister. Stop being slow
Law awakening is useless if he doesn't have an ally with him, that's what he said. Also Law durability is lower than Zoro, without Zoro, they would all be wiped out by the combo attack from the Yonkos. It would be weird for Law to not stay conscious from tanking 1 Thunder Bagua when he didn't get damaged as much as Zoro
bro if Powerfull haki can resist Devil fruit power Then we have lot to see in Shanks
I think powerful haki can only nullify certain df abilities that last on your body, even when the user isn't touching u or attacking u anymore like when aokiji turn u into ice, or sugar transforming you, or doc q, boa Hancock bit I'mnot sure since it'sher main ability. Haki can't just negate df abilities, only sea stone ( weaken), and blackbeard df( nullify literally)when in contact with a df user, like when law break out of doc q power, doc q could still turn him in woman again if he hit him, if haki was nullifying df powers like blackbeard fruit, law wouldn't be transformed in the first place. Haki is a counter to logia intagibity and certain paramecia invulnerable to certain type of attacks like luffy or baggy but it's not a counter to df in general, it depend on the fruit, like for example if u touch a df user with haki, he still keeps his abilities, and isn't weakened at all, it just by pass his df body, and hit his "real body".
Asura attack was way stronger, I’m done watching
Law is not beating zoro
Zoro oneshots him and you're sub 80iq if you don't get it. Zoro's haki is a billion times above that bum's it's not even close😭
Lol Zoro mid diffs Law. You talking about "law reacts to it and that" but Zoro literally blitzed hybrid Kaido while he was injured. You are being very biased here. Law‘s feats you mentioned are just laughable.
Half dead Zoro blitzed hybrid kaido and later got even stronger while Law needs Kid to distract BM all the time
Keep in mind IT was Big Mom and King. It is stated that the level between the 1st commander is the Yanko is huge. It might not have even been Big Mom first commander but Big mom and Kaido are equal prove me wrong
@@wisdombeji8232 What are you even talking about? Acoc Zoro was dominating king low diff, king couldn’t even land one single strike to Zoro after the power up. Mind you it was an exhausted and wounded Zoro at that.
There is no such thing as 1st commander level, Zoro could easily 1vs2 against King and Katakuri or Marco
BM is not equal to Kaido feats wise. She got nerved to hell but that’s not my problem in an argument
Law was FLABBERGASTED by zoro streght in roofpiece
Law easy 🤭🤭🤭✅✅✅
I remember one law struggling in the whole arc.And all of this ends at monster abilities and ad conq lets drop some names Roger whitebeard oden rayleigh thats zoro calliber right now
Having ACoc doesn't mean you win@@thecrimsonfucker1388
Zoro is over Law
Zoro has Conquerors Haki, Law doesn't. Zoro defeated King, who is definitely stronger than Doffy, while Law lost horribly. That win against Big Mom with Kidd and Law was plot armor. Plus, Bug Mom basically lost because of the huge bomb. Zoro stronger.
funny how defeating a yonko and carrying Kidd is plot armour but zoro awakening conquerors haki in a night and mastering the advance version in a few hours isnt. yall just pick and choose. law on top.
Zoro fanboys will always try to make something up LOL
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