I think the reason that guy said it's scary is because tilting down the hill is an act of faith. Faith that you won't fall face first downhill because your skis will rescue you by turning underneath you at the last second to catch your falling weight. At least that's what's scary to me about the transition.
thanks SO much for putting this out there !! active return to a neutral, aka flat, stance might be the most overlooked aspect of a ski turn ... and sometimes simply asking a student to make that their absolute priority before starting the next turn, is all it takes to fix any number of down-the-line problems however they manifest. how to get to neutral leads so directly into the other pervasive misunderstanding, which is why that popping-upward motion through the transition is actually ineffective ... would love to see you lend your clarity to that explanation as well ;)
That image of finding neutral in the air - amazing! Reminds me of going over a box, if you aren’t neutral you’re going down! It’s all in the edging (or lack of).
Skiing has always been us against the MT. The more we learn from Great Deb video's the better skiing experience we all have. I just wish we would have had internet in the 70's. I learned from co-workers that were from Europe and taking private lessons.
In teaching a baseball swing, we use a similar visualization. For a new player we just have them jump up and land. That landing position is the baseball swing's beginning - because everything athletically is possible from this position. We see it in basketball, football even boxing. It is the starting point of the next dynamic athletic move. Well Done Deb. See ya out at Taos!
The gentlemen off camera made a great comment about neutral being scary, and I think this is very important point. It is scary for the uninitiated when the very next move is feeling the little toe edge of your new inside ski engage as your weight and balance transfers to the new outside ski. For most it feels like you are about to catch that little toe edge and so is avoided by cranking over the big toe edge of the new outside ski and feeling the security of that new outside ski. Unfortunately this leads to unequal edge angles at the start of the new turn and a cascade of poor movements then follows. Debs has another video on the use of the inside ski and it is a great accompaniment to this video. The more you can develop a relationship with the little toe edge of your inside ski then only good things follow.
There is a lot of jargon used in teaching people how to ski and sometimes different phrases or words are used to describe the same thing. Thanks for the “show and tell” as to what this is. I can now put a “term” to something I recognize that I am doing while skiing. A point for recreational skier, this is the best position to be in for accident avoidance. When that other skier comes out of nowhere, it give one a whole host of options to not get clobbered. PS: Jealous of your snow… currently on Jan 1st 40-is and headed to mid-50s later in the week here in the NE. This is just so wrong.
Working on this with some of my instructors yesterday! I will pass this golden nugget along to them! P.s. send me one of those awesome Taos jackets!!! Kidding
Is the point to this neutrality about how long are you there ? Or the fact that your feeling the the pressure movement from the little toe side to the big toe side of the feet. I ski with a little toe big toe arch on the outside ski with neutral being the change of sides . Just thinking out loud,good stuff .thanks Deb for joining PSIA when you did.
Deb, when I teach parallel, I have students move into a neutral stance so that they can learn to shift pressure to the new outside ski. If they move to quickly, I’ll often see the skis go into a wedge because they leave too much pressure on the new inside ski. But for someone who can move cleaning from ski to ski, what is the advantage gained by stopping in the neutral position in transition? I can see where when you talk about allowing for options, that it allows time to setup the new turn by not committing to it prematurely. Is that it or am I missing the point? Thank you and wishing you a very happy new year. // Marshall
Not sure when I said stopping at transition and neutral. In the transition video we encouraged folks to draw out the transition to feel the even flexion of the joints. When folks can feels something, slow things down and feel it then they can identify the miment
I’m missing something on this one. I don’t see how you can get from the weight on one foot to weight on the other without going through the neutral position. What’s the error that this video is targeting?
There is a mistake present in this video. I am sorry to have to remind you. You talk about lateral movement of the body over your skis and this is fine. But the most important movement at the end of the transition is the body projection. This means that you must make your COM to move partly to the side of the skis and partly in the direction of the fall line also simultaneously. The natural forces, like gravity can bring you there, but this must happen before you let your skis start the next turn. When you move your COM over your skis, you should edge your skis simultaneously also. The goal is that you must be able to feel, that your COM pulls your skis into their own turns. What you also need at the end of the transition is separation. This can be a made by a ski-lead of the the new outside ski, or/and a counter rotation of the whole torso before the new ski turn starts. In an optimal carved turn you should let your torso move over your skis both to the sides of the sis, by edgings and forward/backwards over your skis. Before a new turn starts you must have your COM over the ski tips and during the whole turn, your torso should move backwards so that it ends up over the ski tails at the end of the transition. You should follow this by knee extension that starts when the ski turn starts until apex and knee flexion until the very end of the transition.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong It looks like you have no objections when you have read my comment and so it probably means that you agree to my points. That is good.
Great video, Deb. I own a shop in the East and have recommended your videos to many of my ski customers. Your instruction is top notch and so helpful.
Great!!! Thank you
I think the reason that guy said it's scary is because tilting down the hill is an act of faith. Faith that you won't fall face first downhill because your skis will rescue you by turning underneath you at the last second to catch your falling weight. At least that's what's scary to me about the transition.
Thanks again Deb for more good stuff! I like that you have skis laid out for each part of the turn, left and right! Happy New Year!
Great video! I'm learning so much from this series.
thanks SO much for putting this out there !! active return to a neutral, aka flat, stance might be the most overlooked aspect of a ski turn ... and sometimes simply asking a student to make that their absolute priority before starting the next turn, is all it takes to fix any number of down-the-line problems however they manifest. how to get to neutral leads so directly into the other pervasive misunderstanding, which is why that popping-upward motion through the transition is actually ineffective ... would love to see you lend your clarity to that explanation as well ;)
That image of finding neutral in the air - amazing! Reminds me of going over a box, if you aren’t neutral you’re going down! It’s all in the edging (or lack of).
Great teaching … from the masters!
Skiing has always been us against the MT. The more we learn from Great Deb video's the better skiing experience we all have. I just wish we would have had internet in the 70's. I learned from co-workers that were from Europe and taking private lessons.
Thanks Sam😉
Love it! I taught flatten the ski before you turn your legs today.
In teaching a baseball swing, we use a similar visualization. For a new player we just have them jump up and land. That landing position is the baseball swing's beginning - because everything athletically is possible from this position. We see it in basketball, football even boxing. It is the starting point of the next dynamic athletic move. Well Done Deb. See ya out at Taos!
Love it!
The gentlemen off camera made a great comment about neutral being scary, and I think this is very important point. It is scary for the uninitiated when the very next move is feeling the little toe edge of your new inside ski engage as your weight and balance transfers to the new outside ski. For most it feels like you are about to catch that little toe edge and so is avoided by cranking over the big toe edge of the new outside ski and feeling the security of that new outside ski. Unfortunately this leads to unequal edge angles at the start of the new turn and a cascade of poor movements then follows. Debs has another video on the use of the inside ski and it is a great accompaniment to this video. The more you can develop a relationship with the little toe edge of your inside ski then only good things follow.
Happy New Year Deb!
Thank you! Back at ya
Fantastic videos! Thank you.
Great info as usual. Unrelated question... what brand is that red jacket (at 4:50), love the colour and style. Thanks.
There is a lot of jargon used in teaching people how to ski and sometimes different phrases or words are used to describe the same thing. Thanks for the “show and tell” as to what this is. I can now put a “term” to something I recognize that I am doing while skiing. A point for recreational skier, this is the best position to be in for accident avoidance. When that other skier comes out of nowhere, it give one a whole host of options to not get clobbered.
PS: Jealous of your snow… currently on Jan 1st 40-is and headed to mid-50s later in the week here in the NE. This is just so wrong.
Working on this with some of my instructors yesterday! I will pass this golden nugget along to them! P.s. send me one of those awesome Taos jackets!!! Kidding
HNY David
Happy New Year
Is the point to this neutrality about how long are you there ? Or the fact that your feeling the the pressure movement from the little toe side to the big toe side of the feet. I ski with a little toe big toe arch on the outside ski with neutral being the change of sides . Just thinking out loud,good stuff .thanks Deb for joining PSIA when you did.
Great question. Yes and yes.
Deb, when I teach parallel, I have students move into a neutral stance so that they can learn to shift pressure to the new outside ski. If they move to quickly, I’ll often see the skis go into a wedge because they leave too much pressure on the new inside ski. But for someone who can move cleaning from ski to ski, what is the advantage gained by stopping in the neutral position in transition? I can see where when you talk about allowing for options, that it allows time to setup the new turn by not committing to it prematurely. Is that it or am I missing the point? Thank you and wishing you a very happy new year. // Marshall
Not sure when I said stopping at transition and neutral. In the transition video we encouraged folks to draw out the transition to feel the even flexion of the joints. When folks can feels something, slow things down and feel it then they can identify the miment
In neutral position, where are we supposed to be in terms of fore-aft balance? Why do ski racers often appear weightless in neutral position?
I’m missing something on this one. I don’t see how you can get from the weight on one foot to weight on the other without going through the neutral position. What’s the error that this video is targeting?
Neutral is great especially when it's combined with fore/aft neutral.
The person in the big green coat in the beginning had my crying 😂
Is it correct if the sensation I feel in the leg when I repeat more transition consecutively is similar to the elliptical at the gym?
Possibly. Not familiar enough with the elliptical
There is a mistake present in this video. I am sorry to have to remind you. You talk about lateral movement of the body over your skis and this is fine. But the most important movement at the end of the transition is the body projection. This means that you must make your COM to move partly to the side of the skis and partly in the direction of the fall line also simultaneously. The natural forces, like gravity can bring you there, but this must happen before you let your skis start the next turn. When you move your COM over your skis, you should edge your skis simultaneously also. The goal is that you must be able to feel, that your COM pulls your skis into their own turns. What you also need at the end of the transition is separation. This can be a made by a ski-lead of the the new outside ski, or/and a counter rotation of the whole torso before the new ski turn starts.
In an optimal carved turn you should let your torso move over your skis both to the sides of the sis, by edgings and forward/backwards over your skis. Before a new turn starts you must have your COM over the ski tips and during the whole turn, your torso should move backwards so that it ends up over the ski tails at the end of the transition. You should follow this by knee extension that starts when the ski turn starts until apex and knee flexion until the very end of the transition.
Watch all three videos. This video does cover how the COM moves over the skis from one turn to the next turn.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong so do I. Maybe you could just read my comment...
@@JanosKoranyi I’m did read your comment
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong It looks like you have no objections when you have read my comment and so it probably means that you agree to my points. That is good.