Collins Ongaya every great character is empathetic, not necessarily relatable. You don’t need to see a part of yourself in that character, but you do need to understand their motives and emotions
@@issovaidaumtrabaaaaaalho8987 because its relevant and ppl who believe characters shouldn't be relatable usually doesn't want no lgbt+ character because they think its too woke for them
What I like how HxH villains are still depicted as bad people for all the bad stuff that happens to them. Most shounens have their villains are depicted in a positive light after their backstory is revealed or have their personalities change but HxH still have their villains depicted as bad people while still feeling sympathetic.
MysteriousMrM well anime’s forget Villains are just people with different morals; so they just make them as hate-able and evil as possible without forgetting that villains are people. That’s why I love hxh, it makes villains r e a l
Best part about Hunter X Hunter? Take a pick: A. Little to no filler B. Memorable characters C. Kickass soundtrack D. Humanized characters with personality E. Hisoka F. Great animation G. Originality H. The creative use of Aura I. All of the above J. All of the above + Other K. Other Select all that apply. If "Other", please specify.
K. Other the show still depicts villains as bad people but still questions whether we should care about them. Like Meruem revelations and the Phantom Troupe lost of their members. They don't have long crying scences telling us we should feel bad for them.
Derpaboop Derp I'm gonna need some examples because I don't remember a single filler episode. The closest thing was that one episode that focused on the Phantom Troupe.
Was I basically the only person who didn't mind the same intro for 148 episodes? It almost always bothers me when a show changes their opening theme (the music specifically, not the animation). Hunter x Hunter's opening song has that feeling of setting out on a great adventure, and it always got me hyped to watch the next episode. It was one of the few OPs at the time that I didn't skip. Nice video, by the way!
To me, it felt like a listening to a really great national anthem. In that, because it never changes it simply becomes a feeling or an experience. One that can fill you with all sorts of thoughts or feelings depending on when you hear it, or what's going on when it's playing.
Also keen to hear if you have a guidebook for your nen game. Nen is such a great power system i wish it could become a power system that could be used in other media. Like how a lot of tolkeinian creatures are used in other literature of lovecraftian gods are used in other literature but i feel like its not well known enough for it not to be seen as plagiarism
Idk, in hxh stuff just... Happens. Like, sometimes in life a woman has cleavage, whoop-de-doo. Sometimes you run into someone who's naked-- you can take the Hisoka scenes as fan service but it's also just him being Extra and walking around naked, as you do. Basically, things just happen. You can take them as fan service if you want but it isn't shoved in your face like other series.
Togashi said he created Gon because the Kid Goku type character was selling well and beating Yuyu Hakusho. Then he got bored of his own creation a few chapters in and thought the idea of this overly perfect child was almost scary, which leads to him being so determined that he's willing to die in order to not surrender against Hanzo who was extremely polite and said he'd win the next round. The perfect child with a bunch of determination didn't overcome an obstacle, he was just so stubborn that a man didn't want to cut off his limbs. I like that he tried to follow industry knowledge and found it boring because someone had already done it, but he had already started with it so he ended up making something that tackles cliches head on instead of just being a good show in a different genre. He could've made a spy thriller, it probably would've been great considering the current Succession war arc, but it probably wouldn't have been as legendary as HxH has become.
"No fan service" i don't know about that, i remember at least 2 shower scenes staring hisoka, and my brain made a real effort to remember the episode where Shizuku fights in her underwear. So minor fan service but defiantly not none.
Yeah okay, fair play. I mean I don't think it matters if it's like 3 times across 140 something episodes, but yes. technically you are correct. Also you have an abyss watcher banner. Ha! What a coincidence.
i actually think its 3 times not 2 when you see hisoka naked... but 2 of them take place VERY close to each other. and i mean one is him in the shower and then the next is him out of the same shower
Fanservice only sucks when its used in non-sexual contexts. To use the example of jumpscares, in a well rounded horror plot a jump scare can be amazingly impactful and is totally not cheap, but thats because its where it's supposed to be. When fanservice is introduced into a scene or plot where sexuality is unnecessary, unneeded, or not intended its bad.
I don't quite agree. In the Monogatari Series there's *a lot* of fan service, some of it in non-sexual contexts, and I didn't mind while watching it (and trust me I hate fanservice) because there's always a conversation happening on top of that. My issue with fanservice in general is that while it's on screen, nothing else noteworthy is happening, so I feel like I'm wasting my time. Also, it's making the whole thing extremely awkward to watch in public.
I DON'T SEE THE LAKE BONER SCENE MENTIONED ANYWHERE. Interesting fact: Watch that scene again and if you focus closely, you can see Gon and Killua's eyes move up. ... ... ... yep.
I thought it was a clever way to let the audience know what's happening (beyond Hisoka just being Hisoka) since they couldn't use the censoring speech bubbles moving up like in the manga
I've realized the humanization talked about is like 90% of why I'm inordinately attached to the 1999 version? Like. There's this scene after they get Killua back from his family's house where Killua, Gon, Leorio and Kurapika are all using the same bedroom on this train, and Killua and Gon's bed is right up against a window, so they duck under the curtain to look at the scenery and whisper to each other as Leorio and Kurapika sleep, and it's just ??? happy?? and then when they go to visit Mito, the JoyStation is air dropped to them (which makes so much sense with how small that island is supposed to be) and Gon catches the parachute and does this little dance. And this might have happened in other versions but Mito sits Killua down to cut his hair and it's just really wholesome. The 1999 version took more liberties, which would be a bad thing cause the original manga is so good, but I think for a few of the changes they were just feeling what the manga made them feel and adding moments of their own lives that made them feel that same way. Does that make sense?
The og HxH was better with characterization, but its pacing suffered from some poor choices. I prefer the og hxh for the way Gon and Killua bonded and the way it opened the anime. I reeeeaaally hate the 2011 first episode and the lack of backstory with kaito
i feel you, one scene that really stuck to me in the 1999 anime was that before kurapika went to fight uvo, he prayed in his native language for strength and guidance. And he did so again after he killed him. It just speaks to me how he slowly transforms from someone embodying the kurta culture and keeping his lineage close to someone not even wearing kurta clothes when he switches to a suit, like he's slowly losing himself to revenge
Moon Brush same, also gon's relationship with Mito-san was so downplayed. The first season of 1999 anime starting with saying good bye to Mito then having every episode end with her thinking about him in the credits song was cathartic stuff
Honestly, any scene of Gon and Killua fucking around was a highlight. Like the scene where they were in a hotel and Killua found an adult movie channel and suggested that he and Gon should watch it. It's perverted but also kind of hilarious.
I'm might do a video on the minor characters of the Hunter X Hunter soon. If you've got a minor character you'd like me to talk about, reply to me here.
Well, riding a dragon has been done to oblivion. But riding a dragon that sits on the head of a bigger dragon. That's innovation! Now we need Kazuma riding a dragon that sits on a dragon that sits on a dragon, that is pulled by darkness.
i always say this: if Togashi-sensei was consistent with his serialization, the big three would just be the big two: Hunter x Hunter and One Piece. not trying to take anything away from Naruto and Bleach (i'm a naruto fan) but it's just that hxh is still better and Togashi is a friggin genius among geniuses!
At 6:10 I would say that the crazy character designs is a massive theme of one piece, I believe Oda, the creator of One Piece said his favourite part about writing the Manga was creating these wacky characters and then trying to tone them down or fit them in the story somehow. In essence, the characters become grounded by how ridiculous they look, Gecko Moria, that dude in the screenshot is supposed to be crazy and disproportionate
Yeah, I like it but at points it just feels like to much like with Gecko Moria and big mom I just feel like he tries to make every character unquie the point were he has to make annoying characters and charactes that just destroys the vibe by the way I have no facts this is just how I feel
@@somerandomguy3037 That's more of a personality issue than a character design issue. Plus I'm more pissed about Oda's female character designs(especially post timeskip), bar those in the Big Mom Pirates.
While I adore role playing in a video game I hate the whole let’s get relatable in tv/movies. Like fuck you. I want a substance character. I’m not watching to be reminded of my own shittiness lmao. Because at least in RPGs you can fix the avatar to something fun. Minor relatablity is good but still come on. I’m here ! Entertain me! Bring me to a new place emotionally. Make me feel things I haven’t felt before. Let me see a perspective I have never incountered.
My Generation Is Retarded I mean technically HxH is the best, and your favorite until berserk gets a full anime that’s as good as the manga or at least very close. I just picked up berserk today and I don’t know what to say really, I’ve never read manga or comics so it’s hard to get into, any tips?
what makes anime (or manga by it's original source) great is : 1. little to no filler 2. extremely small amount of fanservice, even if it's exist, it's only placed on obvious setting (eg: complimentary beach episode) 3. adds humor, no matter how serious the story is. *especially* if the story has serious tone 4. JoJo references
5. Great helmsmen e.g Oda ,togashi ,the one who wrote code geass and some others. *Notable:death note's writer if Light yagami killed L and it ended right there with no more m n o p q r stds .
I haven't watched the video yet, but I just have to say this. Hunter X Hunter is by far the best anime I've ever watched (and I've watched A LOT) and if you haven't watched it, WATCH IT NOW! Thank you, and have a nice evening/morning/whatever.
6:12 I don't really agree with the use of One Piece for this example. One of the things I enjoy about it is that Oda manages to get outlandish looking and behaving characters taken seriously. For example I'm sure many readers never expected they would care about a flamboyant, dancing okama in a ridiculous swan costume, let alone think moments with that character were emotional or intense. They didn't expect the character to have respectable ideals or do commendable things. As I see it, a big theme of One Piece is that regardless of the form a person takes, they're still people you can come to understand, appreciate, or empathize with.
"And when _he's_ built up, he's sacrificed in the same way to Kurapika, because...Kurapika is your God and gods require sacrifices" Well I'm glad somebody said it.
I agree that I was impressed with Hunter X Hunter (and other series) for not having fan-service, but I was equally impressed with Kill la Kill for having fan-service that melded with the rest of the show, and at least for me didn't detract from my enjoyment of it (dare I say it even added to it?) Though KlK took a somewhat unique approach to fan-service, and it really only irks me when creators use it to dress up bad shows, the fan-service interrupts the plot, or requires the characters to act out of character.
Dunno, when I first tried to watch it I was scared off by the fanservice and came back only a couple years later because of all the praise the show got. I did enjoy it a lot in the end, but wouldn't have spent the time if not for the firm belief that it was good.
I can understand that. For anyone who hasn't seen much or any anime KlK's fanservice could be a shock, and anyone who has seen much anime will be used to fanservice being used in the scenarios I mentioned, where it just comes off as a cheap distraction. There are a few scenes in KlK even I could do without, but I don't know if I could imagine the show without the vast majority of the fan-service. One claim in particular that I disagree with is that the kamui outfits aren't cool because they're unnecessarily revealing. I find those concepts orthogonal; the designs certainly seemed very cool to me. Also, as with the rest of the fanservice in the show I see no need to defend it. One either likes KlK's fanservice, tolerates it, or simply doesn't watch. I am glad you fell into at least the middle group, it is a great show.
I think especially in the Manga you can see how Togashi starts with a pretty small world (Whale Island) and then broadens the horizon of that world little by little. First we get the exam which is kind of like an introduction into that bigger world and also into other peoples (kirua, curapika, leorio) worlds. it just keeps on going like this with greed island and the chimera ant arc and now we're going to the lost continent. ;) I think this way Togashi manages to create the feeling that later on in the story, things fall into place. It's almost like he had the whole thing worked out from the beginning, although this isn't the case. He once said that the focal point of HxH are the characters and as long as they don't drive the story due to their character traits, no narrative will take place. World-building in HxH might not be as concise as it is in other works because Togashi focuses more on the individual characters but that's exactly what gives HxH it's realism in a fantasy world imo. Concerning Fanservice: what about the scene where Leorio and Curapika have to share a bed on the airship? :p
I watched every episode and never skipped the opening, I also danced to it every time, I simply just can't get bored of it, nothing else has ever enthralled me in such a way.
One thing that has always held this series back in my opinion is that a lot of characters have strange logic and over explanation in their heads of this strange logic that doesn't help explain it but feels more like a dying on a hill situation. Because of this, a lot of characters dont feel as endearing as they could have been to me. I know a lot of people absolutely love this show, so please dont attack me over this or anything, but its always been in that good but not great area for me
I like your observation regarding fan service, I think it can apply to any gratuitous use of sex or sexual content in media that is trying to be interesting or mind provoking.
I love your videos but HxH has a ton of tropes amd these things almost always come about naturally and arent necessarily bad. But HxH does have a lot of them. Also the things you are describing arent really what industry standards are.
I think that FNAF is a good example of doing jumpscares not to artificially boost your scare factor but as a punishment for sloppy play, the story is enough to creep out most people and the jumpscares just serve as a way to punish your player and provide a scare factor for the people who care less about the story than other people, you also don't just get jumpscared for no reason, you don't just get jumpscared and continue on like nothing even happened, in that instance you died instead of the usual "BOO, ok continue on" although that's just how I see it
Great video! You should check out JoJo's Bizarre Adventure if you want to discover where the idea of Nen comes from and to see some inteligent fights ! Keep up the good work!
Yeah, saying that Nen comes from stands with such certainty sounds like a stretch, but the two do share some characteristics that make them stand out (pun unintended) from other shonen power systems: -creative and very, very unique abilities -every character has their own, personal power, and it often matches their personalities and traits -are not based on power levels, so characters can defeat more powerful opponents using strategy and wit without it looking like an asspull (most of the time, of course. There are exceptions like DIO and Meruem) Also, there are JoJo references on HunterXHunter, so it's reasonable to think that Togashi liked and was inspired by it
Kami Knight I think when Steel Ball Run came the similarities were more clear. The fights in Steel Ball Run focused more on the actual fighters instead of the stands but still have them use their abilities in strategical ways. The Wrecking Ball Arc even has both fighters knowledge on the Golden Rectangle instead of how they're going to win.
"no fanservice" Well.. I mean, kinda yeah. But I'd consider episodes 96-97 to be purely fanservice. Phantom Troupe had no real connection to the current arc but we got two whole episodes dedicated to just them. I'd call that fanserivce.
I hate fanservice when it's unnecessary and/or out of place (I mean, I hate fanservice in general, but primarily in those circumstances). Like, if there's an emotional scene going on or an intense fight then all of a sudden there's a bunch of these girls flopping around their inhumanly shiny tits and underwear, I'm just going to stop watching. Keep the fanservice to the genre that it applies to (ecchi or harem animes), and you are going to use it outside of those genres, use it in a way that it's actually comedic and in good taste, otherwise it's just mindless bullshit to fill in for a lack of plot/content and increase merch sales. (We need more profit because we know the anime sales will be shit? Alright, let's boost up the fanservice. They'll be drooling over their figurines and body pillows of their favourite waifus in no time). It's kinda sad actually, now that I think about it.
I love how they made the phantom troupe be so badass but also respect their own set of rules and care for each other. Made them the bad guys, but not the bad guys in some sense.
As a girl who's into anime, one of my main problems with fanservice is that it's kinda demeaning. It reduces a female character to a pair of boobs, and often makes me feel inadequate for not looking like a "sexy anime babe." I don't know much about design theory, but that's just what I know about myself, at least, if that helps explain some of the disdain for it.
RuneKatashima that doesn't mean we can't have anime with a different target audience, and neither does it mean we can't talk about the cultural implications of what sells to male young adults/teens.
You seem fairly biased and/or possibly naiive. There is anime with different target audiences, and some target females with similar fanservice, objectifying males. There's also plenty of anime that has no fanservice. They all target different audiences. So you see, you do have different anime that target's different audiences. Not all anime are the same. Your second comment has no merit so not gonna bother with it.
RuneKatashima There are other anime, but they don't get nearly as popular due to the intense proliferation and popularity of very sexualized and honestly creepy tendencies of shonen/seinen anime, and it doesn't help that the fanbase of a lot of anime is awful. So, again, it's nice to have a discussion about those tendencies and how they harm the genre as a whole, and it's good when an anime can break away from those tendencies. If you think there's no merit to the idea that quality often breaks tradition and attracts people outside of a strict demographic... Well... Okay? That seems to go against common sense, but it's subjective enough that I won't debate you on that point if you'd rather not. (Sorry for the rather disjointed nature of that first comment.)
It's funny when you take One Piece as an example of having characters with weird character design with no explanation. Because the world of One Piece is filled with bunch of islands with different evolutionary paths. Thus meaning radically different DNA's all over the place. Like you show us a picture of Moria who isn't even strictly normal human but belongs to a sub-race of humans who have horns and are larger than your average human. Like One Piece gets underestimated all the time, because of how absurdly subtle the storytelling is sometimes about its world building. Like there is absurd amounts of details that you pass by. Like Luffy's super-human metabolism. Like we all know he likes to eat a lot, but he isn't just eating for fun, he is legitimately hungry. His body has such an insane metabolism that he can literally heal stab wounds. Like there is this piece of dialogue that comes of as a joke between Lucci vs Luffy fight. Where Lucci talks about how he defeated Luffy by stabbing him in his Leopard form. Luffy simply answers "I was fine after I ate some meat". In the Prison arc, we get shown on screen how insane his metabolism really is. When his body is done fighting off the poison, he starts eating since he was pretty much just skin and bones at that point but the point is that we can see the energy he gets from the food to the travel into his body parts and completely restore him. Like nothing in One Piece universe really works just because "magic". The closest thing I can think that is Haki... But considering that Haki is largely an extension of already existing things... Let's talk about different kinds of beams that devil fruits can produce. There is the Slow Slow Beam, Love Love Beam, and Pika Pika Beam. Slow Slow Beam sends particles that causes objects to slow down for certain period of a time. Love Love Beam cause petrification to happen to people who are infatuated with the Love Love Dvil Fruit user however, it's shown that Love Love Beam is not even required as Sanji did this on his own when he looked at her... And he proceeded to do this again when he saw the mermaid princess, proving that petrification is an inherent attribute of the human body in that world. Pika Pika Beam has been replicated to be used by machines.
"I really hate the idea of relate-able characters, as if stories are some f***ing role playing game" You are fucking epic for saying this. I wish you could make a video DECONSTRUCTING this notion I'm so sick and tired of hearing this too.
The intro with the businessman telling others what to do... He has the money and power. He can fire everyone's asses. It's not a lack of critical thinking, it's about keeping your job.
I think there's this weird belief that all shounen is Dragon Ball. Honestly HunterxHunter isn't super different from other shounen, though if you look at shounen with anime adaptions over 100 episodes this does become a bit more valid. Just as an avid shounen manga reader a lot of things I see HunterxHunter praised for aren't all that uncommon. Not that HunterxHunter is bad, it's just not the uber-unique thing people paint it as.
Hunter X Hunter even has many influences from Dragon Ball. Gon is clearly inspired by young Goku and early into Dragon Ball when it is more about adventure than action the series are pretty similar. Goku even came up with the thinking outside the box by destroying a wall and using an attack based of stone, paper, scissors tricks.
Yoshiro Togashi has always had a similar style to his works that dragon ball has, especially in Yu Yu Hakusho, just for the most part Togashi's works are a bit smarter and deeper than Dragon Ball.
The fact that you think characters don't need to be relatable struck a serious chord with me- You're absolutely fucking right. All these writing classes I'm taking (on watchmojo) are "teaching" me that making unique characters isn't what makes them interesting, they need to have some identifiable trait... why? Like... Is there some objective writing principle wherein if you make. unique character, they can't, no matter what you fathom, make them interesting? Like a character wanting to take over the world is poor writing? Explain to me then why the idiot who says this would think Meruem is a bad character? Fuck off mate. You sir, earned yourself a viewer >:O
the one thing i have about HxH world building is that they don't really say how small the world actually is until the very end, but they still don't say how big it even is
I need to get one of those small recording things that lets you record a few seconds of sound and then let's you play it back when you press a button. And everytime someone asks me a stupid question i would play the part from 0:48
......... Here's the only thing Shonen can learn from Hunter x Hunter. Never have a straight forward plot, that way you can do whatever the fuck you want and they'll eat it up. Oh the story is about a kid finding his father? No wait it's about becoming a secret society member who get massive funding to do whatever they want with the lack of a plot. Introduce 4 distinct characters, one who's a loveable kid, another who's a loveable kid with a tragic backstory that makes him badass, another intelligent kid who has a revenge mission, and a nobody comic relief who we can just ignore until I feel like making him important. Anyways where were we? Oh yeah Hunter exams, no wait, I got knocked out and we're now in the Zoldyk retrieval arc, time to go train our asses off to be able to stand a chance against a family of highly trained assassins..... or I can guess which hand a coin is in. Oh well who cares moving on TOURNAMENT ARCCCC and SHOUNEN POWERS!!!!!!!! Will Gon make it to the top? How will he face these masters of martial arts and Nen oh he 0 difficulties them all until we get to the fight we actually. Moving on Holy shit were in the big city, and there's underground black market trading going on and I must infiltrate to buy a game system I think my dad wants me to buy in order to find him possibly and REVENGE PLOT INTENSIFIES until it's not anymore. Yay we got the game now to play it. Woopie dragon quest land time for RPG like adventures!! Or dodgeball... yeah dodgeball, and a pop quiz on collectible cards :D Welp now that I finished the game time to get back to the main plot, finding my Dad..........s friend/student who has a kill fetish for insects, cue the most relevant groundbreaking tale told in the course of a 6 year hiatus about an Ant King who liked to play Japanese checkers with a blind girl thus questioning his Ant Humanity and a new revenge plot for our MC who wants to kill the Cat Ant that killed his Dads friend/Student who he knew for like 3 days tops. Cue infiltration of Ant castle and the highest salary for any narrator in history for the constant exposition. Oh Btw there's a giant Red beast man Ant and faggot butterfly Ant too. Fights, fights, running, fights, strategize, follows, finds, sits, waits, waits, waits, here's a fight that's going on while he waits. He's done waiting, come heal the man you decapitated with your bare hands, or face the consequences. Consequences faced. There's a Suicide bomber Buddha enthusiast, wrong religion Togashi. But the King lives only to not live later so he can spread his Nuke Ebola to the blind girl, way to go Netero. Gay butterfly dies alone not getting the Kings dick, and or MC is Hospitalized. Cue the strangest election process until the 2016 Us elections and OH SHIT!!!!! There's his dad!!!! Finally!!!! The plot thickens. Hey remember that family of assassins, turns out they have a plot device that can help Gon go back to normal with a grave consequence to whoever uses the plot device, unless you're relevant to the plot that doesn't exist. Turns out Killua is, and Gon is Ok, and he meets his dad, then goes home..... DARK CONTINENT ARC!!!!!!!!!! That about sum it up?
I'd argue that the appeal of relatable characters is that they can give a story more emotional depth if the person watching has experienced something similar to what a character has because they immediately understand what the character is going through and can understand what emotions they are feeling beyond what the story outright states. How many people would have hated Shinj from Evangelion if they hadn't seen themselves in him?
I didn't think the battle system was actually that good. Even though it had those 6 different categories or so, it still just seemed like "anything goes" and then the system was an afterthought after making up some super weird power then trying to somehow vaguely label it. There is also a category, the special category, that can just be literally anything, and Kurapica has the power to just have all the types of powers when his eyes are red, kinda stupidly op...
It's made to allow anything to happen, but there can't be asspulls involved. Besides, Emperor Time takes one hour off Kurapika's life every second it's activated.
Dude are you sure you want to use Code Geass when giving examples of shows that are great despite the fan service? Code Geass is kind of a contrived, messy anime.
Popularity is only an indicator that something is working. Which means there's a good chance something is good. You're going to have to give me a long list of examples of why it's contrived and why you think it is so I can have a discussion with you. Euphemia killing all the Japanese wasn't contrived and it was hinted earlier in the series Lelouch was going to lose control of his power at some point. Which, by definition, makes the scenario not contrived.
It was contrived. had that event not occurred, there'd be no moving forward for zero's plan. Euphemia helping to improve the Japanese living condition severely lowered demand for his revolution and any attempt to kill Euphemia at that point would cement him as no ally to the Japanese. While there were options to deal with her, all of them would prove Zero to be a truly evil person. At the very least he'd have to deny the betterment of millions of people's lives in order to get what he wants and at worst he'd actively choose to do something horrible to Euphemia knowing how good her goals and results would be. By that exact use of geass, he made the people hate her and had a reason to kill her *and* because it was an accident, his character accomplishes the goal without compromising the character morally... *It's not that his geass was activated by accident that I find contrived, indeed it was hinted at earlier through Mao that this can and would happen. However, for his geass's moment of awakening to be in front of Euphemia at their private 1 on 1 meeting and for him to say those exact words to her while the geass was active, was BS and completely contrived.* Don't get me wrong I love code geass, it had one of the few truly satisfying endings in anime and while I believe it has some problems (the high school crap) I find I recommend the show often, but this show has flaws and denying them seems unneeded.
The rape/attempted rape scenes in Berserk are definitely drawn and staged in an eroticized manner, especially in the manga. While this doesn't personally bother me I'm actually glad it was toned down in the anime, since it makes the series hard to recommend to other people.
How to make your audience suffer in just ten easy steps: 1. Don't kill any of the characters your audience is attached to 2. Wait for four story arcs 3. Kill two minor side characters at the beginning of your next story arc 4. Kill a major character 5. Have this be the basis for your main character's growth from here out 6. Turn said major character into a zombie 7. Introduce zombie to your ten-year-old child protagonist 8. Tease hope of recovery 9. Dash hope of recovery 10. Emotionally scar the ten-year-old child
there was fanservice (kinda) of that one spider chick with the vacuum in the ant arc. I remember that one specifically because it was the one worst time for my parents to come in
Have you finished anohana? I saw u were watching it so decided to as well and finished in 2 days, by far one of the best series I've watched, I would love to hear your opinion on it when you are finished and/or what shows are similar or that it relates to. Thank you and keep uploading great content!
I think Gon and Killua started their adolescence in the Chimera-Ant arc because: #1 Gon goes on a dating with Palm #2 they are both 14-15 in that arc #3 They got really muscular
Not even 14 seconds in and I am wondering. “What episode is Kite watching Gon and Killua on th blimp. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like I haven’t ever seen this scene before” is it in the 90’s adaptation? What am I missing?
I would count the hisoka crotch shot as fanservice but like diegetic fanservice? It actually characterizes him in a really unsettling way that wouldnt have had the same impact without the visual.
"I really hate the idea of relate-able characters, as if stories are some f***ing role playing game"
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Collins Ongaya every great character is empathetic, not necessarily relatable. You don’t need to see a part of yourself in that character, but you do need to understand their motives and emotions
idk what happened. I tried smashing the like button but it stopped working after like a single press wtf ;)
except when that just gives people excuses to be homophobic
@@antidave I don't see how the subject of homophobia has to do with what we're taking about.
@@issovaidaumtrabaaaaaalho8987 because its relevant and ppl who believe characters shouldn't be relatable usually doesn't want no lgbt+ character because they think its too woke for them
What I like how HxH villains are still depicted as bad people for all the bad stuff that happens to them. Most shounens have their villains are depicted in a positive light after their backstory is revealed or have their personalities change but HxH still have their villains depicted as bad people while still feeling sympathetic.
MysteriousMrM well anime’s forget Villains are just people with different morals; so they just make them as hate-able and evil as possible without forgetting that villains are people. That’s why I love hxh, it makes villains r e a l
*Cough* nagato *Cough*
WHY THE FUCK DID I PRONOUNCE IT KURA-PICK-A
That bugged the FUCK outta me!
Uniquenameosaurus WHERES MY HUNTER X HUNTER EPISODES?? SAID YOU'D MAKE EM 7 MONTHS AGO
Best part about Hunter X Hunter? Take a pick:
A. Little to no filler
B. Memorable characters
C. Kickass soundtrack
D. Humanized characters with personality
E. Hisoka
F. Great animation
G. Originality
H. The creative use of Aura
I. All of the above
J. All of the above + Other
K. Other
Select all that apply. If "Other", please specify.
Alexander Potec J. Togashi being the author. Nothing else needs to be said~
K. Other the show still depicts villains as bad people but still questions whether we should care about them. Like Meruem revelations and the Phantom Troupe lost of their members. They don't have long crying scences telling us we should feel bad for them.
theres actually a buttload of filler
derp i don't think we watched the same anime
Derpaboop Derp I'm gonna need some examples because I don't remember a single filler episode. The closest thing was that one episode that focused on the Phantom Troupe.
How to make a Character badass in HxH: Have him ride a Dragon while that Dragon rides a Bigger Dragon!!
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I know the one
true dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon dragon
// in One Piece: Make him sacrifice his hand for the protagonist
@@Unizuka lmfao
Or make him say: "D R A G O N D I V E" when he's on the sky.
How to make a character hatable
The thumbnail is a zoom effect on Hisoka's junk.
You have my attention.
Detective detention attention retention you mean?
this is just some bs spew btw haha
Your not alone
*SCHWING*
Was I basically the only person who didn't mind the same intro for 148 episodes? It almost always bothers me when a show changes their opening theme (the music specifically, not the animation). Hunter x Hunter's opening song has that feeling of setting out on a great adventure, and it always got me hyped to watch the next episode. It was one of the few OPs at the time that I didn't skip.
Nice video, by the way!
I love the 2011's op ! Even after 148 episodes!
Nope. I loved it as well.
To me, it felt like a listening to a really great national anthem. In that, because it never changes it simply becomes a feeling or an experience. One that can fill you with all sorts of thoughts or feelings depending on when you hear it, or what's going on when it's playing.
Mathwiz97X I cry whenever I hear that intro now thinking that we won't have another hxh in like 2030
Mathwiz97X i love it. it fits the whole show. Somehow.
Nen is genuinely one of the tightest power schemes in fiction. A few friends and I adapted it into a table top system and it worked beautifully.
I know this is an old comment, but do you remember how you did that? Because that sounds fucking amazing, and I've wanted to try it out for a while.
how do you even balance it and what if someone gets speciist
Post it
Also keen to hear if you have a guidebook for your nen game.
Nen is such a great power system i wish it could become a power system that could be used in other media. Like how a lot of tolkeinian creatures are used in other literature of lovecraftian gods are used in other literature but i feel like its not well known enough for it not to be seen as plagiarism
Commenting on this thread in case he ever comes out with the specs lol
That Hisoka lake scene was definitely fan service.
Well I enjoyed it anyways
And every scene with Pokunoda. #neverforget
DeeperHavoc uh, no?
uhh I knew you said it wrong and looked up, it's pah-ku-no-duh.
Idk, in hxh stuff just... Happens. Like, sometimes in life a woman has cleavage, whoop-de-doo. Sometimes you run into someone who's naked-- you can take the Hisoka scenes as fan service but it's also just him being Extra and walking around naked, as you do. Basically, things just happen. You can take them as fan service if you want but it isn't shoved in your face like other series.
We actually had Shizuku in underwears once
Sorry about the 360p.
Getting clips for Hunter X Hunter was difficult. Have no idea how the other youtubers do it.
Excuse me, but will you be making a follow-up to the RWBY video? Sorry that this is a off topic question, but I really want to know.
She's all good mate I'll still love ya.
yeah, I probably will, but it might be up to a month away. Got a bunch of other videos already planned out.
Thank you. P.S. You are my favorite anime youtuber.
Psst, I like you.
I'm always on board for some Hunter X Hunter dickriding. And a video about the Nen System? Yes please!
Cabbadath B You rang?
Perhaps I did, but I also asked for a video on Nen. WHERE IS IT UNIQUENAMEOSAURUS!?!?!?!
Togashi said he created Gon because the Kid Goku type character was selling well and beating Yuyu Hakusho. Then he got bored of his own creation a few chapters in and thought the idea of this overly perfect child was almost scary, which leads to him being so determined that he's willing to die in order to not surrender against Hanzo who was extremely polite and said he'd win the next round. The perfect child with a bunch of determination didn't overcome an obstacle, he was just so stubborn that a man didn't want to cut off his limbs. I like that he tried to follow industry knowledge and found it boring because someone had already done it, but he had already started with it so he ended up making something that tackles cliches head on instead of just being a good show in a different genre. He could've made a spy thriller, it probably would've been great considering the current Succession war arc, but it probably wouldn't have been as legendary as HxH has become.
"No fan service" i don't know about that, i remember at least 2 shower scenes staring hisoka, and my brain made a real effort to remember the episode where Shizuku fights in her underwear.
So minor fan service but defiantly not none.
Still a great video, I'm just a pedantic twat
Yeah okay, fair play. I mean I don't think it matters if it's like 3 times across 140 something episodes, but yes. technically you are correct.
Also you have an abyss watcher banner. Ha! What a coincidence.
TEHSMISH Ah yes, the Shizuku fighting in her underwear episode. A classic.
i actually think its 3 times not 2 when you see hisoka naked... but 2 of them take place VERY close to each other. and i mean one is him in the shower and then the next is him out of the same shower
Not at all. That's meant to mean realism
Fanservice only sucks when its used in non-sexual contexts. To use the example of jumpscares, in a well rounded horror plot a jump scare can be amazingly impactful and is totally not cheap, but thats because its where it's supposed to be. When fanservice is introduced into a scene or plot where sexuality is unnecessary, unneeded, or not intended its bad.
Steve Penn Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop is a fanservice character done right for the most part.
Yeah, because her sexuality is realistic as her fanservice. As far as I know she never trips and falls on any of the characters faces for no reason.
I don't quite agree. In the Monogatari Series there's *a lot* of fan service, some of it in non-sexual contexts, and I didn't mind while watching it (and trust me I hate fanservice) because there's always a conversation happening on top of that. My issue with fanservice in general is that while it's on screen, nothing else noteworthy is happening, so I feel like I'm wasting my time. Also, it's making the whole thing extremely awkward to watch in public.
K the anime series is a wonderful example
An example of bad service, I hope you mean.
I DON'T SEE THE LAKE BONER SCENE MENTIONED ANYWHERE.
Interesting fact: Watch that scene again and if you focus closely, you can see Gon and Killua's eyes move up. ... ... ... yep.
Ni Yao ?
Ni Yao what episode was it?
no lie, it was the bath scene on greed island episode 69, you'll see it. it's subtle- but pay attention it's pretty obvious
I thought it was a clever way to let the audience know what's happening (beyond Hisoka just being Hisoka) since they couldn't use the censoring speech bubbles moving up like in the manga
Ni Yao Fun fact: Hisoka's boners are made of pure light.
I've realized the humanization talked about is like 90% of why I'm inordinately attached to the 1999 version? Like. There's this scene after they get Killua back from his family's house where Killua, Gon, Leorio and Kurapika are all using the same bedroom on this train, and Killua and Gon's bed is right up against a window, so they duck under the curtain to look at the scenery and whisper to each other as Leorio and Kurapika sleep, and it's just ??? happy?? and then when they go to visit Mito, the JoyStation is air dropped to them (which makes so much sense with how small that island is supposed to be) and Gon catches the parachute and does this little dance. And this might have happened in other versions but Mito sits Killua down to cut his hair and it's just really wholesome. The 1999 version took more liberties, which would be a bad thing cause the original manga is so good, but I think for a few of the changes they were just feeling what the manga made them feel and adding moments of their own lives that made them feel that same way. Does that make sense?
The og HxH was better with characterization, but its pacing suffered from some poor choices. I prefer the og hxh for the way Gon and Killua bonded and the way it opened the anime. I reeeeaaally hate the 2011 first episode and the lack of backstory with kaito
i feel you, one scene that really stuck to me in the 1999 anime was that before kurapika went to fight uvo, he prayed in his native language for strength and guidance. And he did so again after he killed him. It just speaks to me how he slowly transforms from someone embodying the kurta culture and keeping his lineage close to someone not even wearing kurta clothes when he switches to a suit, like he's slowly losing himself to revenge
Moon Brush same, also gon's relationship with Mito-san was so downplayed. The first season of 1999 anime starting with saying good bye to Mito then having every episode end with her thinking about him in the credits song was cathartic stuff
Honestly, any scene of Gon and Killua fucking around was a highlight. Like the scene where they were in a hotel and Killua found an adult movie channel and suggested that he and Gon should watch it. It's perverted but also kind of hilarious.
Fuuuuck I need to watch 99
I'm might do a video on the minor characters of the Hunter X Hunter soon. If you've got a minor character you'd like me to talk about, reply to me here.
Yeah, Phantom troupe
Talk about razor
The Zoldyck Family
Meruem
Melody and Bisky, i.e. the two best girls (though Bisky is only really a minor character outside of the Greed Island arc)
Well, riding a dragon has been done to oblivion. But riding a dragon that sits on the head of a bigger dragon. That's innovation! Now we need Kazuma riding a dragon that sits on a dragon that sits on a dragon,
that is pulled by darkness.
Did you just make a Yakuza AND a kh reference under a HxH video? Can i marry you?
@@Gaareth_ hmmm i thought that was a Cave Story reference
Kazuma already riding Excalibur
i always say this: if Togashi-sensei was consistent with his serialization, the big three would just be the big two: Hunter x Hunter and One Piece. not trying to take anything away from Naruto and Bleach (i'm a naruto fan) but it's just that hxh is still better and Togashi is a friggin genius among geniuses!
At 6:10 I would say that the crazy character designs is a massive theme of one piece, I believe Oda, the creator of One Piece said his favourite part about writing the Manga was creating these wacky characters and then trying to tone them down or fit them in the story somehow.
In essence, the characters become grounded by how ridiculous they look, Gecko Moria, that dude in the screenshot is supposed to be crazy and disproportionate
I think you meant to say GOda
The cooler Beethoven Yeah i understand him!
In other (actually Nameosaurus' own) words:
"It's a creative medium. Go f**k yourself." :P
Yeah, I like it but at points it just feels like to much like with Gecko Moria and big mom I just feel like he tries to make every character unquie the point were he has to make annoying characters and charactes that just destroys the vibe by the way I have no facts this is just how I feel
@@somerandomguy3037 That's more of a personality issue than a character design issue. Plus I'm more pissed about Oda's female character designs(especially post timeskip), bar those in the Big Mom Pirates.
... You mean I'm weird for perceiving Hisoka as a fanservice?
Yes, the whole character.
While I adore role playing in a video game I hate the whole let’s get relatable in tv/movies. Like fuck you. I want a substance character. I’m not watching to be reminded of my own shittiness lmao. Because at least in RPGs you can fix the avatar to something fun. Minor relatablity is good but still come on. I’m here ! Entertain me! Bring me to a new place emotionally. Make me feel things I haven’t felt before. Let me see a perspective I have never incountered.
This is the best anime I can't even handle
*Best Shonen
My Generation Is Retarded
What’s your favorite
HxH is my Favourite Shonen, but My Favourite of all time is Berserk.
*Manga, not anime though.
My Generation Is Retarded
I mean technically HxH is the best, and your favorite until berserk gets a full anime that’s as good as the manga or at least very close.
I just picked up berserk today and I don’t know what to say really, I’ve never read manga or comics so it’s hard to get into, any tips?
what makes anime (or manga by it's original source) great is :
1. little to no filler
2. extremely small amount of fanservice, even if it's exist, it's only placed on obvious setting (eg: complimentary beach episode)
3. adds humor, no matter how serious the story is. *especially* if the story has serious tone
4. JoJo references
#4 is particularly important
cypherusuh
Jazz Dowswell
what if jojo references it ?
#2 and #4 are just tumors upon the medium.
5. Great helmsmen e.g Oda ,togashi ,the one who wrote code geass and some others.
*Notable:death note's writer if Light yagami killed L and it ended right there with no more m n o p q r stds .
HeavenlyDemon 97 code geass is garbage lol
Meruem did nothing wrong.
this needs to be a thing
I mean if 'homura did nothing wrong' could become a meme, why not?
Grittith did nothing wrong
Agree.. Our one and truly god king is not WRONG!!
I don't think he could ever truly let go of his pride as a king to work with others.
2:21
Well, seeing how Uvo had a very, very close relationship with Shalnark (another cute, short haired blonde) I can see this.
Filip Ferenčak "very, very close" ;) I like you
Fan Service is garbage. It cheapens everything it touches. Most anime over-sexualize characters needlessly at the cost of character depth.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I just have to say this. Hunter X Hunter is by far the best anime I've ever watched (and I've watched A LOT) and if you haven't watched it, WATCH IT NOW! Thank you, and have a nice evening/morning/whatever.
I require a gif of "fuck you, its a creative medium."
6:12 I don't really agree with the use of One Piece for this example. One of the things I enjoy about it is that Oda manages to get outlandish looking and behaving characters taken seriously. For example I'm sure many readers never expected they would care about a flamboyant, dancing okama in a ridiculous swan costume, let alone think moments with that character were emotional or intense. They didn't expect the character to have respectable ideals or do commendable things.
As I see it, a big theme of One Piece is that regardless of the form a person takes, they're still people you can come to understand, appreciate, or empathize with.
To this day I haven't gotten bored of that opening
"And when _he's_ built up, he's sacrificed in the same way to Kurapika, because...Kurapika is your God and gods require sacrifices"
Well I'm glad somebody said it.
I agree that I was impressed with Hunter X Hunter (and other series) for not having fan-service, but I was equally impressed with Kill la Kill for having fan-service that melded with the rest of the show, and at least for me didn't detract from my enjoyment of it (dare I say it even added to it?) Though KlK took a somewhat unique approach to fan-service, and it really only irks me when creators use it to dress up bad shows, the fan-service interrupts the plot, or requires the characters to act out of character.
Dunno, when I first tried to watch it I was scared off by the fanservice and came back only a couple years later because of all the praise the show got. I did enjoy it a lot in the end, but wouldn't have spent the time if not for the firm belief that it was good.
I can understand that. For anyone who hasn't seen much or any anime KlK's fanservice could be a shock, and anyone who has seen much anime will be used to fanservice being used in the scenarios I mentioned, where it just comes off as a cheap distraction. There are a few scenes in KlK even I could do without, but I don't know if I could imagine the show without the vast majority of the fan-service.
One claim in particular that I disagree with is that the kamui outfits aren't cool because they're unnecessarily revealing. I find those concepts orthogonal; the designs certainly seemed very cool to me. Also, as with the rest of the fanservice in the show I see no need to defend it. One either likes KlK's fanservice, tolerates it, or simply doesn't watch. I am glad you fell into at least the middle group, it is a great show.
hunter x hunter 1999 got me into anime and manga since it was so good and different, then it goes on fucking hiatus.
I think especially in the Manga you can see how Togashi starts with a pretty small world (Whale Island) and then broadens the horizon of that world little by little. First we get the exam which is kind of like an introduction into that bigger world and also into other peoples (kirua, curapika, leorio) worlds. it just keeps on going like this with greed island and the chimera ant arc and now we're going to the lost continent. ;)
I think this way Togashi manages to create the feeling that later on in the story, things fall into place. It's almost like he had the whole thing worked out from the beginning, although this isn't the case. He once said that the focal point of HxH are the characters and as long as they don't drive the story due to their character traits, no narrative will take place. World-building in HxH might not be as concise as it is in other works because Togashi focuses more on the individual characters but that's exactly what gives HxH it's realism in a fantasy world imo.
Concerning Fanservice: what about the scene where Leorio and Curapika have to share a bed on the airship? :p
1:16 subscribed. This man speaks truth!
"and those are jumpscares"
instantly starts rushing to scroll up and pause asap.
Hunter x Hunter and jojo's bizarre adventure are the two shonen anime that just amazing
My problem with fanservice is that it makes it incredibly awkward to watch with others, or reccomend to others.
I watched every episode and never skipped the opening, I also danced to it every time, I simply just can't get bored of it, nothing else has ever enthralled me in such a way.
I love the Markiplier clip.....
Two of my favorite things
Mark, and Hunter X Hunter....
I still listen to Departure at least once a week. Best anime OP ever.
One thing that has always held this series back in my opinion is that a lot of characters have strange logic and over explanation in their heads of this strange logic that doesn't help explain it but feels more like a dying on a hill situation. Because of this, a lot of characters dont feel as endearing as they could have been to me. I know a lot of people absolutely love this show, so please dont attack me over this or anything, but its always been in that good but not great area for me
I like your observation regarding fan service, I think it can apply to any gratuitous use of sex or sexual content in media that is trying to be interesting or mind provoking.
I love your videos but HxH has a ton of tropes amd these things almost always come about naturally and arent necessarily bad. But HxH does have a lot of them.
Also the things you are describing arent really what industry standards are.
Huh... Thought this was gonna be a "why Hunter x Hunter is bad. Gladly disappointed
Isn't Leorio punching Ging fan service?
I think that FNAF is a good example of doing jumpscares not to artificially boost your scare factor but as a punishment for sloppy play, the story is enough to creep out most people and the jumpscares just serve as a way to punish your player and provide a scare factor for the people who care less about the story than other people, you also don't just get jumpscared for no reason, you don't just get jumpscared and continue on like nothing even happened, in that instance you died instead of the usual "BOO, ok continue on" although that's just how I see it
I love the phantom troupe, 10/10
Great video! You should check out JoJo's Bizarre Adventure if you want to discover where the idea of Nen comes from and to see some inteligent fights ! Keep up the good work!
HUH. Did not know that. Maybe I have more of a reason to watch it now.
Yeah, saying that Nen comes from stands with such certainty sounds like a stretch, but the two do share some characteristics that make them stand out (pun unintended) from other shonen power systems:
-creative and very, very unique abilities
-every character has their own, personal power, and it often matches their personalities and traits
-are not based on power levels, so characters can defeat more powerful opponents using strategy and wit without it looking like an asspull (most of the time, of course. There are exceptions like DIO and Meruem)
Also, there are JoJo references on HunterXHunter, so it's reasonable to think that Togashi liked and was inspired by it
+Matheus Leal Kohatsu You summed it up perfectly!
Kami Knight I think when Steel Ball Run came the similarities were more clear. The fights in Steel Ball Run focused more on the actual fighters instead of the stands but still have them use their abilities in strategical ways. The Wrecking Ball Arc even has both fighters knowledge on the Golden Rectangle instead of how they're going to win.
Inspiration for Nen? Sure
Intelligent fights? I dunno about that
*hear`s the opening in the background* *starts head banging intensely* HELL YEAAAA
you're like a miracle creator; one of my all-time favorites on this site. keep doing your thing man
"no fanservice"
Well.. I mean, kinda yeah. But I'd consider episodes 96-97 to be purely fanservice.
Phantom Troupe had no real connection to the current arc but we got two whole episodes dedicated to just them. I'd call that fanserivce.
I did not even watch the video yet but being a fanatic I just want to say.
EVERY ANIME CAN LEARN FROM HUNTER X HUNTER!!!
Thank you for your attention.
I finished watching Hunter x Hunter a few days ago, and it's my favorite anime now
*Kurapika is fanservice*
Kioku delete this
I hate fanservice when it's unnecessary and/or out of place (I mean, I hate fanservice in general, but primarily in those circumstances). Like, if there's an emotional scene going on or an intense fight then all of a sudden there's a bunch of these girls flopping around their inhumanly shiny tits and underwear, I'm just going to stop watching. Keep the fanservice to the genre that it applies to (ecchi or harem animes), and you are going to use it outside of those genres, use it in a way that it's actually comedic and in good taste, otherwise it's just mindless bullshit to fill in for a lack of plot/content and increase merch sales. (We need more profit because we know the anime sales will be shit? Alright, let's boost up the fanservice. They'll be drooling over their figurines and body pillows of their favourite waifus in no time). It's kinda sad actually, now that I think about it.
I love how they made the phantom troupe be so badass but also respect their own set of rules and care for each other. Made them the bad guys, but not the bad guys in some sense.
I absolutely lost it at the Poptart jump scare.
π=3.14 the area of a circle=π r squared
As a girl who's into anime, one of my main problems with fanservice is that it's kinda demeaning. It reduces a female character to a pair of boobs, and often makes me feel inadequate for not looking like a "sexy anime babe." I don't know much about design theory, but that's just what I know about myself, at least, if that helps explain some of the disdain for it.
That's because that scene wasn't made for you. Generally the creators know their target audience is often young men, so they shoot for that.
RuneKatashima that doesn't mean we can't have anime with a different target audience, and neither does it mean we can't talk about the cultural implications of what sells to male young adults/teens.
And for something to be truly good it should be enjoyable to those outside the target demographic, too.
You seem fairly biased and/or possibly naiive. There is anime with different target audiences, and some target females with similar fanservice, objectifying males. There's also plenty of anime that has no fanservice. They all target different audiences.
So you see, you do have different anime that target's different audiences. Not all anime are the same.
Your second comment has no merit so not gonna bother with it.
RuneKatashima There are other anime, but they don't get nearly as popular due to the intense proliferation and popularity of very sexualized and honestly creepy tendencies of shonen/seinen anime, and it doesn't help that the fanbase of a lot of anime is awful.
So, again, it's nice to have a discussion about those tendencies and how they harm the genre as a whole, and it's good when an anime can break away from those tendencies.
If you think there's no merit to the idea that quality often breaks tradition and attracts people outside of a strict demographic... Well... Okay? That seems to go against common sense, but it's subjective enough that I won't debate you on that point if you'd rather not.
(Sorry for the rather disjointed nature of that first comment.)
It's funny when you take One Piece as an example of having characters with weird character design with no explanation.
Because the world of One Piece is filled with bunch of islands with different evolutionary paths. Thus meaning radically different DNA's all over the place.
Like you show us a picture of Moria who isn't even strictly normal human but belongs to a sub-race of humans who have horns and are larger than your average human.
Like One Piece gets underestimated all the time, because of how absurdly subtle the storytelling is sometimes about its world building. Like there is absurd amounts of details that you pass by.
Like Luffy's super-human metabolism. Like we all know he likes to eat a lot, but he isn't just eating for fun, he is legitimately hungry. His body has such an insane metabolism that he can literally heal stab wounds.
Like there is this piece of dialogue that comes of as a joke between Lucci vs Luffy fight. Where Lucci talks about how he defeated Luffy by stabbing him in his Leopard form. Luffy simply answers "I was fine after I ate some meat".
In the Prison arc, we get shown on screen how insane his metabolism really is. When his body is done fighting off the poison, he starts eating since he was pretty much just skin and bones at that point but the point is that we can see the energy he gets from the food to the travel into his body parts and completely restore him.
Like nothing in One Piece universe really works just because "magic". The closest thing I can think that is Haki... But considering that Haki is largely an extension of already existing things...
Let's talk about different kinds of beams that devil fruits can produce. There is the Slow Slow Beam, Love Love Beam, and Pika Pika Beam.
Slow Slow Beam sends particles that causes objects to slow down for certain period of a time.
Love Love Beam cause petrification to happen to people who are infatuated with the Love Love Dvil Fruit user however, it's shown that Love Love Beam is not even required as Sanji did this on his own when he looked at her... And he proceeded to do this again when he saw the mermaid princess, proving that petrification is an inherent attribute of the human body in that world.
Pika Pika Beam has been replicated to be used by machines.
"I really hate the idea of relate-able characters, as if stories are some f***ing role playing game"
You are fucking epic for saying this. I wish you could make a video DECONSTRUCTING this notion I'm so sick and tired of hearing this too.
01:37 Lmao.
Great video mate, I'm a pretty big fan of HiatusXHiatus and I thoroughly enjoyed the video.
The intro with the businessman telling others what to do...
He has the money and power.
He can fire everyone's asses.
It's not a lack of critical thinking, it's about keeping your job.
I think there's this weird belief that all shounen is Dragon Ball. Honestly HunterxHunter isn't super different from other shounen, though if you look at shounen with anime adaptions over 100 episodes this does become a bit more valid. Just as an avid shounen manga reader a lot of things I see HunterxHunter praised for aren't all that uncommon. Not that HunterxHunter is bad, it's just not the uber-unique thing people paint it as.
Hunter X Hunter even has many influences from Dragon Ball. Gon is clearly inspired by young Goku and early into Dragon Ball when it is more about adventure than action the series are pretty similar. Goku even came up with the thinking outside the box by destroying a wall and using an attack based of stone, paper, scissors tricks.
Yoshiro Togashi has always had a similar style to his works that dragon ball has, especially in Yu Yu Hakusho, just for the most part Togashi's works are a bit smarter and deeper than Dragon Ball.
Yeah, Dragon Ball created sort of a foundation for him to build upon and expand on the themes.
Idk people even call it a shounen it’s clearly a Seinen that’s evident from the YorkNew city arc
+xxSage. Mitsukixx
Perhaps because it's published in Weekly *Shounen* Jump?
The fact that you think characters don't need to be relatable struck a serious chord with me- You're absolutely fucking right. All these writing classes I'm taking (on watchmojo) are "teaching" me that making unique characters isn't what makes them interesting, they need to have some identifiable trait... why? Like... Is there some objective writing principle wherein if you make. unique character, they can't, no matter what you fathom, make them interesting?
Like a character wanting to take over the world is poor writing? Explain to me then why the idiot who says this would think Meruem is a bad character? Fuck off mate.
You sir, earned yourself a viewer >:O
1:44 you know I genuinely love the way you put this, I never thought to think of character investment that way but it makes absolute perfect sense
boi hisoka is hot af he is my fanservice
No. Just stop.
HxH is a males only event.
I-CON ELITE lol wut
+I-CON ELITE HxH welcomes boys and girls alike. Just like Hisoka welcomes boys and girls (Mainly boys)
HE LOOKS LIKE A ANOREXIC RONALD MCDONALS
Watched the whole video and still don't know what you talked about...
the one thing i have about HxH world building is that they don't really say how small the world actually is until the very end, but they still don't say how big it even is
I need to get one of those small recording things that lets you record a few seconds of sound and then let's you play it back when you press a button.
And everytime someone asks me a stupid question i would play the part from 0:48
yay a comment
......... Here's the only thing Shonen can learn from Hunter x Hunter.
Never have a straight forward plot, that way you can do whatever the fuck you want and they'll eat it up. Oh the story is about a kid finding his father? No wait it's about becoming a secret society member who get massive funding to do whatever they want with the lack of a plot. Introduce 4 distinct characters, one who's a loveable kid, another who's a loveable kid with a tragic backstory that makes him badass, another intelligent kid who has a revenge mission, and a nobody comic relief who we can just ignore until I feel like making him important.
Anyways where were we? Oh yeah Hunter exams, no wait, I got knocked out and we're now in the Zoldyk retrieval arc, time to go train our asses off to be able to stand a chance against a family of highly trained assassins..... or I can guess which hand a coin is in. Oh well who cares moving on TOURNAMENT ARCCCC and SHOUNEN POWERS!!!!!!!! Will Gon make it to the top? How will he face these masters of martial arts and Nen oh he 0 difficulties them all until we get to the fight we actually.
Moving on Holy shit were in the big city, and there's underground black market trading going on and I must infiltrate to buy a game system I think my dad wants me to buy in order to find him possibly and REVENGE PLOT INTENSIFIES until it's not anymore. Yay we got the game now to play it.
Woopie dragon quest land time for RPG like adventures!! Or dodgeball... yeah dodgeball, and a pop quiz on collectible cards :D
Welp now that I finished the game time to get back to the main plot, finding my Dad..........s friend/student who has a kill fetish for insects, cue the most relevant groundbreaking tale told in the course of a 6 year hiatus about an Ant King who liked to play Japanese checkers with a blind girl thus questioning his Ant Humanity and a new revenge plot for our MC who wants to kill the Cat Ant that killed his Dads friend/Student who he knew for like 3 days tops.
Cue infiltration of Ant castle and the highest salary for any narrator in history for the constant exposition.
Oh Btw there's a giant Red beast man Ant and faggot butterfly Ant too.
Fights, fights, running, fights, strategize, follows, finds, sits, waits, waits, waits, here's a fight that's going on while he waits. He's done waiting, come heal the man you decapitated with your bare hands, or face the consequences. Consequences faced.
There's a Suicide bomber Buddha enthusiast, wrong religion Togashi. But the King lives only to not live later so he can spread his Nuke Ebola to the blind girl, way to go Netero. Gay butterfly dies alone not getting the Kings dick, and or MC is Hospitalized.
Cue the strangest election process until the 2016 Us elections and OH SHIT!!!!! There's his dad!!!! Finally!!!! The plot thickens.
Hey remember that family of assassins, turns out they have a plot device that can help Gon go back to normal with a grave consequence to whoever uses the plot device, unless you're relevant to the plot that doesn't exist. Turns out Killua is, and Gon is Ok, and he meets his dad, then goes home.....
DARK CONTINENT ARC!!!!!!!!!!
That about sum it up?
didn't even mention the main character of this video, Hisoka's crotch. 0/10 come back 5 years later after another hiatus
Seems like this series might be too a little too creative for your liking. Try something else sir.
You forgot how literally a 12 year old can give an exam in which people die oftenly and it is ok because it makes perfect sense.
Justsomeone k
"can give a exam"?
chong willson have u seen hunter x hunter
"It's a creative medium, fuck you" is definitely going to be a thing I say now.
I'd argue that the appeal of relatable characters is that they can give a story more emotional depth if the person watching has experienced something similar to what a character has because they immediately understand what the character is going through and can understand what emotions they are feeling beyond what the story outright states. How many people would have hated Shinj from Evangelion if they hadn't seen themselves in him?
Daymaster How many people hated Shinji because they saw themselves in him? I really liked him but noticed that side of it too.
Nahh HxH needs to learn wtf a shounen from a seinen is lol
Estarossa Kun
Can you write that in proper english? I have no idea what dou mean with that comment.
I didn't think the battle system was actually that good. Even though it had those 6 different categories or so, it still just seemed like "anything goes" and then the system was an afterthought after making up some super weird power then trying to somehow vaguely label it. There is also a category, the special category, that can just be literally anything, and Kurapica has the power to just have all the types of powers when his eyes are red, kinda stupidly op...
EternaMidnight I don't think you understand the system as well as you think you do
It's made to allow anything to happen, but there can't be asspulls involved. Besides, Emperor Time takes one hour off Kurapika's life every second it's activated.
Space 4 Plus could be used Only of The Troupe
Space 4 when was the last part stated, hold on
EternaMidnight
Rewatch the anime cuz u obviously don't understand how nen works
An episode on character humanization would be pretty cool :)
I like how you talk about clever fight design right as you cut to a scene that has dudes swinging swords at kurapika sittin on a chandelier
Dude are you sure you want to use Code Geass when giving examples of shows that are great despite the fan service? Code Geass is kind of a contrived, messy anime.
Nothing about CG is contrived and the fact it's usually high on everyone's list and #30 on MAL severely weakens your argument.
accidentally telling Euphemia to kill all the Japanese wasn't contrived... WAT.
RuneKatashima What about Code Geass is not contrived? Does popularity always mean good?
Popularity is only an indicator that something is working. Which means there's a good chance something is good. You're going to have to give me a long list of examples of why it's contrived and why you think it is so I can have a discussion with you.
Euphemia killing all the Japanese wasn't contrived and it was hinted earlier in the series Lelouch was going to lose control of his power at some point. Which, by definition, makes the scenario not contrived.
It was contrived. had that event not occurred, there'd be no moving forward for zero's plan. Euphemia helping to improve the Japanese living condition severely lowered demand for his revolution and any attempt to kill Euphemia at that point would cement him as no ally to the Japanese. While there were options to deal with her, all of them would prove Zero to be a truly evil person. At the very least he'd have to deny the betterment of millions of people's lives in order to get what he wants and at worst he'd actively choose to do something horrible to Euphemia knowing how good her goals and results would be.
By that exact use of geass, he made the people hate her and had a reason to kill her *and* because it was an accident, his character accomplishes the goal without compromising the character morally...
*It's not that his geass was activated by accident that I find contrived, indeed it was hinted at earlier through Mao that this can and would happen. However, for his geass's moment of awakening to be in front of Euphemia at their private 1 on 1 meeting and for him to say those exact words to her while the geass was active, was BS and completely contrived.*
Don't get me wrong I love code geass, it had one of the few truly satisfying endings in anime and while I believe it has some problems (the high school crap) I find I recommend the show often, but this show has flaws and denying them seems unneeded.
Beserkerer is rape so fanservice nerd
God damn it, technically yes everything seems to have some fanservice, albeit rare.
EVERYONE'S GOTTA FIND SOMETHING TO CORRECT ME ON. XD
OwO Ming Rape is not fanservice .
Shadow Priest then why did I get a boner
We may never know.
The rape/attempted rape scenes in Berserk are definitely drawn and staged in an eroticized manner, especially in the manga. While this doesn't personally bother me I'm actually glad it was toned down in the anime, since it makes the series hard to recommend to other people.
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Look I love HxH's fights as much as the next guy but I genuinely don't think I've been more confused than with the Hisoka vs Chrollo fight.
How to make your audience suffer in just ten easy steps:
1. Don't kill any of the characters your audience is attached to
2. Wait for four story arcs
3. Kill two minor side characters at the beginning of your next story arc
4. Kill a major character
5. Have this be the basis for your main character's growth from here out
6. Turn said major character into a zombie
7. Introduce zombie to your ten-year-old child protagonist
8. Tease hope of recovery
9. Dash hope of recovery
10. Emotionally scar the ten-year-old child
That relatable characters comment towards the beginning is so fucking true
there was fanservice (kinda) of that one spider chick with the vacuum in the ant arc. I remember that one specifically because it was the one worst time for my parents to come in
I still liked departure after all 148 episodes
Have you finished anohana? I saw u were watching it so decided to as well and finished in 2 days, by far one of the best series I've watched, I would love to hear your opinion on it when you are finished and/or what shows are similar or that it relates to. Thank you and keep uploading great content!
I see you are a man of culture as well. You did not mention the dumpster that was the chimera ant arc
i just watched your 5 things UA-camrs don't want you to know do you still read all the comments of old videos?
love your videos btw.
Yep
Isn't there a fanservice moment with Shizuku when she fights some Chimera Ants?
I'm unbelievably happy that you referenced Jordan underneath and gave hunter hunter a lot of credit and praise
I’m pretty sure naked spider vacuum girl is fan service
I think Gon and Killua started their adolescence in the Chimera-Ant arc because:
#1 Gon goes on a dating with Palm
#2 they are both 14-15 in that arc
#3 They got really muscular
Have you read Hisoka's origin story one shot by Ishida Sui? It is pretty nice.
Not even 14 seconds in and I am wondering. “What episode is Kite watching Gon and Killua on th blimp. Maybe it’s just me but I feel like I haven’t ever seen this scene before” is it in the 90’s adaptation? What am I missing?
"Like humans are incapable of empathy, and we have to make a story all about us in order to give a fuck"
hire this man.
Please do the phantom troupe case study you mentioned! I love this anime and it's nice hearing about why I might feel how I do.
5 years? How many theories can we really make with 4 more chapters?
👏Thank👏 you👏 finally 👏 some👏one👏 said👏 it.
You forgot to mention it's not in highschool.
I would count the hisoka crotch shot as fanservice but like diegetic fanservice? It actually characterizes him in a really unsettling way that wouldnt have had the same impact without the visual.