This lock would be much improved by either a mechanism requiring both keys to be turned simultaneously or a spring return on each core to reset it if pressure is let off. Wouldn't need to be a strong spring, but enough that if you take the turner out it clicks back closed.
Indeed that seems obvious and I was shocked the cores could be turned independently (even if not fully) and could be left alone. Although just as obviously it only matters if you're trying to make the lock resistant instead of gimmicky.
I was thinking the same thing here, but a bit of thought later and I'm not sure either works: Springs: it wouldn't be too difficult to use a second turner to keep a little pressure on the first while you rake the second. Simultaneous: I question if the mechanics could work. You would have to make them connected such that turning one also turns the other. Theoretically, this requires the pins to be set on both at the same time...but the fact that raking works at all on a single lock, indicates to me that it would still work on the double simultaneous lock.
I'm honestly shocked that every single company that makes locks doesn't make them at least wave rake proof at this point. They either didn't think to try it, which is amazing, or just plain didn't care.
Considering that even one of the largest lock manufacturers cannot even safeguard all their high-security locks against a comb-pick attack, I think you are asking for too much.
That typically requires very high precision parts. It could be done, but when new, the lock may be balky in cold weather, or if there's a little dirt. And once worn, it's as vulnerable as any other lock.
@@kniels2856that's because Masterlock (and equivalents) care more about cost savings than pick resistance or quality. Sure, it may only require a two cents part to make their locks comb proof, but that two cents over let's say a hundred million locks means they saved two million dollars... and the average Joe won't know nor care about pick resistance, a lock is better than no lock, and a Masterlock number 3 is 13$ and looks chunky, it should be secure, right? Masterlock can be cheap because most people are cheap and don't know what to look in a lock, securing thousands of dollars worth of stuff with a cheapo lock...
i'm personally convinced they don't care. LPL has mentioned many times, most of the exploits he uses have been well-known in the industry for 50+ years. there's no way honest, well-meaning manufacturers would be so lazy. at least this company tried something new though, unlike most of them who just rehash outdated things and seem to hope nobody will notice.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Your response doesn’t negate the point. Weird that you bothered to respond at all. Argos: “That’s inconvenient.” You: “Not true. Many people suffer similar inconveniences.” Like, seriously, what?
@@twestgard2 If you had little bit of reading comprehension he's saying "It's not as much of an inconvenience as you think, people have big stuff on their key rings all the time, and the size looks roughly comparable to the electronic keys i use at work"
Very interesting. If they added anti-rake features to the lock, so you had to actually pick both sides, and also put some gearing into the lock to somehow deploy trap keys from one side into the other side, they could potentially make it so that two people had to pick the lock at the same time.
Gearing could force you to swap from one side to the other, but it would also stack multiple tolerances in the mechanism, and tolerances are why locks are pickable.
I was thinking along the same lines. First, make it resistant to raking, then add gearing in the lock itself so the two sides can't move unless they're moved together, but at different rates (with traps as you said). Then add another layer of gearing into the key so the two rotate in opposite directions. There's no such thing as "unpickable", but there is "a bigger PIA than it's worth" (as well as "overengineered to the point of non-profitability" ;P)
If you check back in video 552, LPL picks a similar lock (rather than just raking). As said, there's still some exploitable space in the tolerances enabling them to be picked one at a time.
Using a few spools and having an interlocking system to prevent turning one side without turning the other side at the same time could increase the security...
That seems to be how the lock functions, since he had to increment each core alternately instead of picking them one at a time. The tolerances are too wide.
Most people have no understanding of how secure a lock is and how to evaluate it - so they can churn out easy to pick locks .... LPL is bringing awareness
If i've learnt ONE thing in life, it's stay away from gimmicks. Gimmicks like Bowley PROVE the rule. Safety comes in numbers, indeed, but not in gimmick numbers.
Effectively you have to do the work of wave raking 4 locks at once, which is far simpler than it sounds. It's a low skill attack applied in a mildly more complex manner. At least the lock DID try to innovate, that's a step in the right direction compared to most companies.
With a few tweaks they could have a decent product. The amount of movement after raking the first and then moving to second could be lowered and have a spring back. The way he incrementally moved them after raking both was interesting as it suggests there is something in place to prevent raking it as 2 individual locks.
Also you need to know how to pick it. Counter-clockwise rotation can already waste a solid minute to figure out, and then there is pin banks that you need to look for, and also knowing the trick of turning each core bit by bit to not reset them. In short - unusual construction alone would prevent most attackers from going in, but once you know the lock...
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 That bit by bit turning has me very intrigued as to whether there is some protection built in that he found in advance that gets triggered if turn either too much.
Interesting lock. Imagine it would deter a fair number on just the uniqueness, but not for anyone serious about it as you showed. Interesting concept for the lock.
A similar set up to the lock you picked way back in video 552. Either this iteration is a poorer lock OR, you found easier ways to open said lock from your time with the disk lock version of this particular lock.
Initially I thought it was a repost of that video. It's a similar lock, but the keyways are different and that gave it away for me. So this is just a poorer version of that one.
came thinking perhaps this is going to be like the one with Johnson/Seaman and I just realized he knows this and knows how to tease us, like a waverake.
When LPL uploads a two and half minute video on a bizarre or unique looking lock, you know it’s gonna get absolutely bodied. 😅 especially since the explanation of the lock is usually longer than others
I’ve always loved your lock dis-assembly videos, so it would be cool to see you take apart some of these more obscure locks to show how they work (and maybe where their vulnerabilities are?)
You know what would be very secure with similar concept? One of the double locks would be a disc retainer, while other would be a classic pin tumbler and they can't be physically rotated unless both are rotated at the same time.
I think that this lock could be harder to open if it had the following 2 things: 1) the internal pins would be built in such a way that one key would push a pin and the other key would have to exert a specific counter force on the corresponding pin from it's side. There would be 3 moving parts for each pin, like this: One pin in the rotating part of lock A, one corresponding pin in the rotating part of lock B, one sliding pin the body. When closed there will be a channel that would align the 3 pins. For opening, key A pushes pin A, pin A pushes the sliding pin, the sliding pin pushes pin B, key B prevents pin B from being pushed too much. 2)a second mechanism would prevent opening if the two keys would not rotate simultaneously, each with a specific angle. I don't have an idea right now how to build this mechanism .
interesting approach, they should have put a system that required that both cilynders spin simultaneously sou you would be forced to pick both cilynders at the same time needing 4 hands or 2 people
I think I does, but there's enough play between the cores that they can be advanced little by little. And if you think about it, it has to be somewhat forgiving, otherwise it would reject its own keys as they develop more play through use.
Back tension springs on the cylinders so the first picked would return to locked state could help a lot. Would need 2 tension bars and a decent amount of dexterity in that hand while raking with the other. Exactly where the lock is placed on something would be important too, and not something not covered enough.
I stopped by due to the "shear" quality of the cinematography and then stayed for the insightful content ◜◯◯◝ I found this video "key" to my gray matter expansion project (GMEP). I suggest to everyone to give this video a "tumble" if you desire to "pin" down and "lock" in your knowledge in this field. The LPL is the LPW (Lock Picking Whisperer). Just saying Thank you for the video. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd house on the left (please call before stopping by)
I think having a return spring on each cylinder would complicate picking quite a bit because you would need to retain tension on both cores as you try to pick. Of course, security pins would also make a big difference.
I can at least appreciate that some lock companies (advertising aside, don't think I'm giving these guys a clean pass) seem to accept that you cannot prevent picking the lock if you are knowledgeable and prepared enough. But you can stymie the hell out of the unprepared and the novice. So innovation in design, however flawed it may ultimately be, is still a good thing. Just can't rest on it, you gotta keep it up and improve on it.
Amazing Find !! very interesting concept!! .. I am also a Machinist as well as a Locksmith xo I would have definitely taken apart the key to see what the gears were made of! .. and what quality :) ... Maybe you can open it up in another video?? If *I* was manufacturing the lock (in sufficient quantities) I would use some plastic 'standard stock' gears like old festooned Nylon. But I bet they made the gears themselves out of brass, as not to ti[ off their suppliers of the idea before they got to production. If Asian suppliers hear of a good idea?? They will attempt to copy it, or sell the idea to a competitor!
I love seeing a lock in the thumbnail that makes you think oof looks tough but then you see the length of the video is like 2 mins and my reaction is like "oh..."
The keyways should have been sprung to rotate them back to the locked position. It would also be interesting to see more of this geared double key idea, maybe use a housing that can take to different cores that need to be rotated together.
It seems like the main flaw of this design (aside from bring rake-able) is that the two cores can turn independently of each other, which means all you have to do is pick two crappy locks in a row. I wonder if they were geared together somehow, if that would make it so you would have to pick both simultaneously. Even a master picker might have some challenge with that just in terms of dexterity required, assuming no special tools
This is the first time I have ever seen a chain lock such as the one in this video. I have to admit that the Lockpicking Lawyer is clever at picking most locks open.
This does seems like a good idea to me, if there was a way to make it only unlock if both keyways are tensioned at the same time that would likely make it somewhat more secure but what it really needs is some decent pick-protection. I feel like with those two upgrades it would become an extremely difficult lock to pick. This almost feels like a prototype to me because it JUST falls short.
Thanks for another interesting video. I would love to see you work your magic on a NATO Mersey lock. These locks were used secure classified documents and equipment, and were touted as "unpickable" (at least, until you get your hands on one). Cheers.
My wave rake is one of the three tools that sit on my desk - but then my current pool of practice locks are all master(un)lock I probably need to buy some different ones. Hahaha
Having to deal with 2 cylinders would make it more time consuming for someone attempting to steal my bicycle from in front of the coffee shop. Opening a lock that one could pick with a rake having only a single cylinder seems like it might only take seconds and be less obvious to passers by. After years of watching the Lock Picking Lawyer for years, I only hope that my locks slow someone down, they all seem able to be picked by an expert.
this is an interesting lock. there will be not too many people who can pick this lock. it's complicated enough that people rather use a tool to cut it open. whats interesting is that you could separate the keys. this way you need two key holders to open the lock. or one lock picking lawyer.
It's certainly an unusual key. I bet it would be difficult to replicate if you needed more keys. I think I remember you picking something similar a few years back.
Still better then Master Lock, and tbf, intimidation goes a long way at deterring attacks. if it looks too complicated or they aren't experienced enough, that's enough to prevent and attack on that lock
What are the odds any thief would choose a wave rake instead of an angle grinder or bolt cutters? On most bike racks this would appear as one of the more secure locks and someone else's bike is going to come up missing first.
Just thinking about what you commented. Makes sense. If the level of detail of that knowledge is sufficiently granular, and the required steps are within one's abilities, I suppose that's true. Assuming nobody and nothing are opposing the doing. That's kind another question, though, I guess. LPL couldn't pick this lock if it were encased in concrete, for example. But that's a ridiculous codicil. So: a person can do what he knows how to do, is not being prevented from doing by opposition he cannot overcome, and is capable of doing in terms of skill, opportunity, etc. The more I think about it the more obvious it becomes, but in fairness, as an off the cuff YT comment, it works. Frankly I obtained a greater duration of intrigue from your comment than the lock itself gave us, so thank you! 😂
I would like to know how tough the chain and lock body are. Sure, picking the lock required finesse, but most thieves aren’t too subtle about how they go about stealing your stuff.
I wish LPL had discussed how it could be improved. It's an intriguing idea. Is it still basically flawed or could it be improved? Some suggestions have been made by other posters and I'd like for LPL to do a followup video on this lock.
Soon as he said "0 time 2 is still 0" i was just waiting for him to reveal the waverake
"The key is actually pretty cool!" - reading between the lines - "The lock on the other hand".
I was thinking the 4-way jiggler.
I thought he wasn't even gonna touch the keyways, like it had another vulnerability
same, i when he said that i literally said "waverake time"
i was awaiting the bypass tool
This lock would be much improved by either a mechanism requiring both keys to be turned simultaneously or a spring return on each core to reset it if pressure is let off. Wouldn't need to be a strong spring, but enough that if you take the turner out it clicks back closed.
agreed. a spring would definitely improve security on this kind of design
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Indeed that seems obvious and I was shocked the cores could be turned independently (even if not fully) and could be left alone. Although just as obviously it only matters if you're trying to make the lock resistant instead of gimmicky.
I was thinking the same thing here, but a bit of thought later and I'm not sure either works:
Springs: it wouldn't be too difficult to use a second turner to keep a little pressure on the first while you rake the second.
Simultaneous: I question if the mechanics could work. You would have to make them connected such that turning one also turns the other. Theoretically, this requires the pins to be set on both at the same time...but the fact that raking works at all on a single lock, indicates to me that it would still work on the double simultaneous lock.
and once you have that, the key could have non-1to1 gear ratios, that need to match the lock. seems like a neat lock idea implemented poorly
LPL gets the wave rake... "Oh... it is THAT bad..."
Well in it's favor he did need tools, and not a piece of soda can or a safety pin.
Yup, no left hand threaded hair pin needed here.
👍 👋😎
Could've been worse. Could've been just a pointy hook to bypass the lock entirely
"Wow, looks tough." Checks length of video... "Nevermind."
anything opened in under 3 minutes gets an F
I'm honestly shocked that every single company that makes locks doesn't make them at least wave rake proof at this point. They either didn't think to try it, which is amazing, or just plain didn't care.
Considering that even one of the largest lock manufacturers cannot even safeguard all their high-security locks against a comb-pick attack, I think you are asking for too much.
That typically requires very high precision parts. It could be done, but when new, the lock may be balky in cold weather, or if there's a little dirt. And once worn, it's as vulnerable as any other lock.
@@UncleKennysPlace interesting
@@kniels2856that's because Masterlock (and equivalents) care more about cost savings than pick resistance or quality.
Sure, it may only require a two cents part to make their locks comb proof, but that two cents over let's say a hundred million locks means they saved two million dollars... and the average Joe won't know nor care about pick resistance, a lock is better than no lock, and a Masterlock number 3 is 13$ and looks chunky, it should be secure, right?
Masterlock can be cheap because most people are cheap and don't know what to look in a lock, securing thousands of dollars worth of stuff with a cheapo lock...
i'm personally convinced they don't care. LPL has mentioned many times, most of the exploits he uses have been well-known in the industry for 50+ years. there's no way honest, well-meaning manufacturers would be so lazy.
at least this company tried something new though, unlike most of them who just rehash outdated things and seem to hope nobody will notice.
Lock manufacturer: I have a fancy new lock concept!
LPL: *Rake* And as always, have a nice day!
lock manufacturer "F**K!"
Carrying a key that's as big as many locks would be a real pain.
Not necessarily. People can have rather large key chain decorations. I also, at an earlier workplace had an electronic key roughly the size here.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Your response doesn’t negate the point. Weird that you bothered to respond at all.
Argos: “That’s inconvenient.”
You: “Not true. Many people suffer similar inconveniences.”
Like, seriously, what?
@@twestgard2 If you had little bit of reading comprehension he's saying "It's not as much of an inconvenience as you think, people have big stuff on their key rings all the time, and the size looks roughly comparable to the electronic keys i use at work"
Maybe some people don’t see it as an inconvenience as much as softy boys like you
That's why they made it easy to pick, no need to carry the key😂
Still waiting on that carrot video... 🥕🥕🥕
We're gonna have to wait for April 1st at this point.
It takes time to literally GROW a custom carrot pick with Bosnian Bill? 😅
Yes, PLEASE!
@@privacyvalued4134guess so, probably including some phallic innuendos (i hope)
That's coming 4/1 😉
wondering if the lock is still carrot-proof
I am fairly sure this one will not open with a carrot, you probably need two of them. 😊
You probably don't even need to get to the carrot, I bet anything above cabbage grade can open it.
@@seriousmaran9414 Cut it in half lengthways ...
The video that first prompted me to watch you a few years back had a similar lock. The same kind of lock has returned!
A similar lock was the video that got me started with watching you a few years ago. Now the same type of lock is back!!!
Until you remember that two times zero is still zero.
Damn! That's fucking cold!
Very interesting. If they added anti-rake features to the lock, so you had to actually pick both sides, and also put some gearing into the lock to somehow deploy trap keys from one side into the other side, they could potentially make it so that two people had to pick the lock at the same time.
Gearing could force you to swap from one side to the other, but it would also stack multiple tolerances in the mechanism, and tolerances are why locks are pickable.
I was thinking along the same lines. First, make it resistant to raking, then add gearing in the lock itself so the two sides can't move unless they're moved together, but at different rates (with traps as you said). Then add another layer of gearing into the key so the two rotate in opposite directions. There's no such thing as "unpickable", but there is "a bigger PIA than it's worth" (as well as "overengineered to the point of non-profitability" ;P)
If you check back in video 552, LPL picks a similar lock (rather than just raking). As said, there's still some exploitable space in the tolerances enabling them to be picked one at a time.
@@EhrineAshbark I was waiting for someone to mention that video. I was surprised that LPL didn't mention it himself.
you wouldn"t need gears necessarily, a spring to turn the core currently not tensioned back to the locked state would help already
Using a few spools and having an interlocking system to prevent turning one side without turning the other side at the same time could increase the security...
That seems to be how the lock functions, since he had to increment each core alternately instead of picking them one at a time. The tolerances are too wide.
Still waiting for the carrot opening of those rack locks!!!
Most people have no understanding of how secure a lock is and how to evaluate it - so they can churn out easy to pick locks ....
LPL is bringing awareness
But it still might have been a fluke
Is it? LPL had to pick 2 separate cylinders.
If i've learnt ONE thing in life, it's stay away from gimmicks. Gimmicks like Bowley PROVE the rule. Safety comes in numbers, indeed, but not in gimmick numbers.
Effectively you have to do the work of wave raking 4 locks at once, which is far simpler than it sounds. It's a low skill attack applied in a mildly more complex manner. At least the lock DID try to innovate, that's a step in the right direction compared to most companies.
With a few tweaks they could have a decent product. The amount of movement after raking the first and then moving to second could be lowered and have a spring back. The way he incrementally moved them after raking both was interesting as it suggests there is something in place to prevent raking it as 2 individual locks.
Also you need to know how to pick it. Counter-clockwise rotation can already waste a solid minute to figure out, and then there is pin banks that you need to look for, and also knowing the trick of turning each core bit by bit to not reset them. In short - unusual construction alone would prevent most attackers from going in, but once you know the lock...
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 That bit by bit turning has me very intrigued as to whether there is some protection built in that he found in advance that gets triggered if turn either too much.
The double prong looks like two carrots 🥕🥕
u r dum and squishy
Was hoping to see the first introduction of the double wave rake developed by you and Bosnian Bill. 😂
It actually made me unconsciously say "are you shitting me" out loud when he pulled out the wave rake.
Made in Chy-na
Let me check my calculator
Yes 2 times is zero
This guy is allright
Wow! That's intimidating looking but as you show, a piece of cake.
You mean...a piece of (wave)rake
At 1:52, the sound of the rake changed before it opened
Interesting lock. Imagine it would deter a fair number on just the uniqueness, but not for anyone serious about it as you showed. Interesting concept for the lock.
A similar set up to the lock you picked way back in video 552.
Either this iteration is a poorer lock OR, you found easier ways to open said lock from your time with the disk lock version of this particular lock.
Initially I thought it was a repost of that video. It's a similar lock, but the keyways are different and that gave it away for me. So this is just a poorer version of that one.
"Two Times Zero is still Zero"
That burns, and LPL hasn't even started.
"0 time 2 is still 0" is going to be the most savage thing I hear all week.
"... after all, two times zero is still zero." 😂 S-level genius.
He said it was technically true that having two doubled security but then gave the one example where it wouldn't.
came thinking perhaps this is going to be like the one with Johnson/Seaman and I just realized he knows this and knows how to tease us, like a waverake.
When LPL uploads a two and half minute video on a bizarre or unique looking lock, you know it’s gonna get absolutely bodied. 😅 especially since the explanation of the lock is usually longer than others
I would be cool if the 2 cores interacted with each other it could make for a tricky lock
I think they do in some way due to how he didn't just open them one by one, instead done them in increments.
I’ve always loved your lock dis-assembly videos, so it would be cool to see you take apart some of these more obscure locks to show how they work (and maybe where their vulnerabilities are?)
Nice explanation and highlighting the flaw in their logic. 2X0=0
You featured this keyway or a similar one on a motorcycle disc brake lock 7 years ago in video number 552
You're right! Well spotted.
What's your point?
@-Devy- normally he mentions things like this
You know what would be very secure with similar concept? One of the double locks would be a disc retainer, while other would be a classic pin tumbler and they can't be physically rotated unless both are rotated at the same time.
I was SOOOO excited that this could have put up more of a challenge.. sadly, that was very short lived.
That math doesn't work out in Terrence Howard's world.
So, what's the lock body made of then? Chrome plating always covers a multitude of sins.
"Zero times zero is still zero" are chilling words coming from this man.
Cosmetics and pigs come to mind with this lock
Impressive analysis 🧐
LPL "oh wow you doubled my ways in. Thanks."
I think that this lock could be harder to open if it had the following 2 things:
1) the internal pins would be built in such a way that one key would push a pin and the other key would have to exert a specific counter force on the corresponding pin from it's side.
There would be 3 moving parts for each pin, like this:
One pin in the rotating part of lock A, one corresponding pin in the rotating part of lock B, one sliding pin the body.
When closed there will be a channel that would align the 3 pins. For opening, key A pushes pin A, pin A pushes the sliding pin, the sliding pin pushes pin B, key B prevents pin B from being pushed too much.
2)a second mechanism would prevent opening if the two keys would not rotate simultaneously, each with a specific angle. I don't have an idea right now how to build this mechanism .
interesting approach, they should have put a system that required that both cilynders spin simultaneously sou you would be forced to pick both cilynders at the same time needing 4 hands or 2 people
I think I does, but there's enough play between the cores that they can be advanced little by little. And if you think about it, it has to be somewhat forgiving, otherwise it would reject its own keys as they develop more play through use.
Back tension springs on the cylinders so the first picked would return to locked state could help a lot. Would need 2 tension bars and a decent amount of dexterity in that hand while raking with the other.
Exactly where the lock is placed on something would be important too, and not something not covered enough.
Return of the wave rake, with a vengence
I stopped by due to the "shear" quality of the cinematography and then stayed for the insightful content ◜◯◯◝ I found this video "key" to my gray matter expansion project (GMEP). I suggest to everyone to give this video a "tumble" if you desire to "pin" down and "lock" in your knowledge in this field. The LPL is the LPW (Lock Picking Whisperer). Just saying Thank you for the video. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd house on the left (please call before stopping by)
I think having a return spring on each cylinder would complicate picking quite a bit because you would need to retain tension on both cores as you try to pick. Of course, security pins would also make a big difference.
The moment he said "0 times 2 is still zero" I felt the presence of wavefake in the air. :D
I can at least appreciate that some lock companies (advertising aside, don't think I'm giving these guys a clean pass) seem to accept that you cannot prevent picking the lock if you are knowledgeable and prepared enough. But you can stymie the hell out of the unprepared and the novice. So innovation in design, however flawed it may ultimately be, is still a good thing. Just can't rest on it, you gotta keep it up and improve on it.
Amazing Find !! very interesting concept!! ..
I am also a Machinist as well as a Locksmith xo I would have definitely taken apart the key to see what the gears were made of! .. and what quality :) ... Maybe you can open it up in another video??
If *I* was manufacturing the lock (in sufficient quantities) I would use some plastic 'standard stock' gears like old festooned Nylon.
But I bet they made the gears themselves out of brass, as not to ti[ off their suppliers of the idea before they got to production.
If Asian suppliers hear of a good idea?? They will attempt to copy it, or sell the idea to a competitor!
Thanks mate.
Surprised there's no mention of a similar lock that you featured back in video 552
Oh no... the wave rake! 😂
I wonder if putting a spring in the gear box to force the rotation closed might make it a bit more challenging as you would have to turn them together
Wow! Was not expecting that raking would defeat this!😲 Looks can be deceiving.
I love seeing a lock in the thumbnail that makes you think oof looks tough but then you see the length of the video is like 2 mins and my reaction is like "oh..."
The keyways should have been sprung to rotate them back to the locked position. It would also be interesting to see more of this geared double key idea, maybe use a housing that can take to different cores that need to be rotated together.
"Oh this one looks pretty legit"
*Checks time*
"Oh no..."
It seems like the main flaw of this design (aside from bring rake-able) is that the two cores can turn independently of each other, which means all you have to do is pick two crappy locks in a row. I wonder if they were geared together somehow, if that would make it so you would have to pick both simultaneously. Even a master picker might have some challenge with that just in terms of dexterity required, assuming no special tools
LPLs burns are understated by they go so hard.
This is the first time I have ever seen a chain lock such as the one in this video. I have to admit that the Lockpicking Lawyer is clever at picking most locks open.
The Willy Wonka movie (the old one with Gene Wilder) sports a lock like this, though it's a doorlock rather than a chain lock.
This does seems like a good idea to me, if there was a way to make it only unlock if both keyways are tensioned at the same time that would likely make it somewhat more secure but what it really needs is some decent pick-protection.
I feel like with those two upgrades it would become an extremely difficult lock to pick. This almost feels like a prototype to me because it JUST falls short.
Key looks cool as it is
Thanks for another interesting video. I would love to see you work your magic on a NATO Mersey lock. These locks were used secure classified documents and equipment, and were touted as "unpickable" (at least, until you get your hands on one). Cheers.
I'd love to see a recap of the top ten toughest locks, and another video of the bottom ten worst locks.
This idea with 2 conventional cylinders with serrated pins could give a great lock.
This is quite a cool lock
aww man it looks so cool. I was hoping it would be good.
My wave rake is one of the three tools that sit on my desk - but then my current pool of practice locks are all master(un)lock
I probably need to buy some different ones. Hahaha
omg all that razmataz they put into it.......smashed by the wave rake......😱😱😱😱😱
I wonder how well you could do on this lock with a carrot....
Make the keys hollow and have a corresponding post in the centre of each key way that prevents the insertion of the rake.
Boys we finally have him beat, we have a double key lock.
LPL, oh really. 😂
First time I'd like to see the key gutted and not the lock.
Having to deal with 2 cylinders would make it more time consuming for someone attempting to steal my bicycle from in front of the coffee shop. Opening a lock that one could pick with a rake having only a single cylinder seems like it might only take seconds and be less obvious to passers by. After years of watching the Lock Picking Lawyer for years, I only hope that my locks slow someone down, they all seem able to be picked by an expert.
I would say masterlock has gotten 10 times better over the years.
this is an interesting lock. there will be not too many people who can pick this lock. it's complicated enough that people rather use a tool to cut it open. whats interesting is that you could separate the keys. this way you need two key holders to open the lock. or one lock picking lawyer.
It's certainly an unusual key. I bet it would be difficult to replicate if you needed more keys.
I think I remember you picking something similar a few years back.
One little wavy boy is all it takes to unlock almost everything
Thanks for sharing.
Still better then Master Lock, and tbf, intimidation goes a long way at deterring attacks. if it looks too complicated or they aren't experienced enough, that's enough to prevent and attack on that lock
Ouch! Just when I’m feeling good about my new lock creation, LPL gets his grubby hands on it and I go down down in shame.
He should have quoted from Star Trek "The Trouble With Tribbles" - "Twice nothing is still nothing".
You know it's over when LPL brings the wave rake.
I can't help thinking how funny this is. Appearances can be deceiving after all.
This could have been a great lock.
Missed opportunity.
Give it some time. Improvements can be made 😊
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There is hope, because it's not a Master lock.
What are the odds any thief would choose a wave rake instead of an angle grinder or bolt cutters?
On most bike racks this would appear as one of the more secure locks and someone else's bike is going to come up missing first.
@@bhough410 Bolt cutters.
You first need a chain + lock that can survive that.
You're, of course, totally right.
Nicely done! But, I would swear I've seen you pick this one before.
Everything is easy when you know what you should do.
Just thinking about what you commented.
Makes sense. If the level of detail of that knowledge is sufficiently granular, and the required steps are within one's abilities, I suppose that's true.
Assuming nobody and nothing are opposing the doing. That's kind another question, though, I guess. LPL couldn't pick this lock if it were encased in concrete, for example. But that's a ridiculous codicil.
So: a person can do what he knows how to do, is not being prevented from doing by opposition he cannot overcome, and is capable of doing in terms of skill, opportunity, etc.
The more I think about it the more obvious it becomes, but in fairness, as an off the cuff YT comment, it works.
Frankly I obtained a greater duration of intrigue from your comment than the lock itself gave us, so thank you! 😂
I thought your channel was dead.
There are only two channels that I’m subbed to that I never get notified.
You and DoctorRandomercam
I guess hes picked them all
that wave rake really pays itself quite quickly
I would like to know how tough the chain and lock body are. Sure, picking the lock required finesse, but most thieves aren’t too subtle about how they go about stealing your stuff.
The niche look and intimidating factor is all the security it provides, and often that can be enough for low-skill pickers
Cripes you're good.
I wish LPL had discussed how it could be improved. It's an intriguing idea. Is it still basically flawed or could it be improved? Some suggestions have been made by other posters and I'd like for LPL to do a followup video on this lock.
That lock was in total shock after being picked in seconds..
You gotta stop this, man. I keep changing locks because of you.
But for the average person, it would require two flukes!
The video that first prompted me to watch you a few years back had a similar lock. The same kind of lock has returned!