Thank you for the honest review, Roy! EDIT : To save wear on the testing files, you should start at the highest and work down from there. Otherwise, the lower range files will need to be replaced prematurely. And I'm not just blowing wind. Have worked industrially 40 + years in maintenance, tooling, heat treatment, etc.
I use those files to check my knives so i was suprised to see you got a set because well you dont make knives. I never thought to use them on an anvil face but i like that idea for sure!
Thanks Roy I wondered about the hardness test files. I came across them and just brushed them off. Will look forward to additional videos using them. Wayne
I'd say the files are great for testing tools, knives or whatever you produce and harden. But testing an anvil that you're (probably) happy with has no obvious point other than curiousity.
They’re very useful and cheap enough for anyone to buy. At this date, they’re available for about $60, if you look. They’re made in Japan, and are the standard others are judged by. But, even these aren’t 100% accurate. The files themselves are accurate to about plus/minus 1 RC per file. So a 50 file could be 49 to 51. It does come with an English manual. I use them for quick readings when they’re not critical. I make, harden/temper machine parts I make. They’re much more critical than blacksmithing. That’s not a put down of blacksmithing. Each has it own purposes. My “real” Rockwell tester is accurate to about plus or minus 0.25 Rockwell. But because it’s not a computerized model, it means that you must to test it every time you use it to make sure it hasn’t drifted. So these files are easy and will get you into the ball park. But don’t get too upset about anvil readings. High quality manufacturers make them from 48 RC to 58 RC. It depends on their philosophy. By the way, if doing the rebound test, don’t use too big a bearing. Proper rebound testers use small bearings, about 3/8”, even smaller. Large bearings have enough mass to dent the material which partly negates the test. Or the rebound is from a very short distance.
Now I wanna get some to test my 426 lb south German pattern double horn and my 200 lb north german production/"cutlers" anvil. Oh yeah and my mint condition 100 lb Vulcan.....and my hammers and my axes and...........the list goes on!!!!
Thanks for the great review. Now my question is. What is a good Rockwell range for an anvils face to be in? Which I’m sure the answer is coming in a future video.
There are several other hardness scale besides the Rockwell scale, such as Brinnel. There is no clear cut way to make comparisons between the different scales. Understanding 'hardness' is HARD! But that is basic materials science (from what I understand), and materials science strikes me as one of the few 'wizardly' bits of knowledge that still exist. I know there are people that actually understand it, and a larger number of people that SAY they understand it, but I don't have a problem admitting my general ignorance or the subject.
I will make a video on it eventually :-) but all propane tanks will eventually freeze up so usually you just get a bigger tank if it's a continual problem
@@ChristCenteredIronworks if I may interject my observation. Yes they frost up. But if you have a way to link up 2 or more in seiries it greatly reduced the frosting. Also setting them in a tub of water slows the process of frosting through thewater conducting Temp. Sorry I can't tell you the exact process that causes the frost. I'm sure Roy will when he made his video
Dragonstone Gem & Ironworks Crawford I’m just a hobbyist, have a 7 gallon tank single burner, 30 psi reg but I can and do weld (3/4 diameter and smaller) at 25+psi... God forbid when it’s frosted/frozen and only have 10psi.. I “don’t” take my torch and heat the tank...... or hot water to get to 25psi... Any thought on electric blankets or reptile tank heaters? Billy out. LOL
@@billygildark4565 please try to refrain from taking a torch to your propane tank to thaw it!!! The thought of it gives me the chill. I'm not trying to preach.......I do a LOT of stupid stuff but I feel taking a torch to a propane tank is out right dangerous. I'm sorry for the rant I just want people to live to see another day!
@@billygildark4565 , haven't heard of anyone using blanket. Just water and tandem tanks together. What tandem together tanks does is slow the flow from each tank. As the slow flows the expansion from liquid into gassious state slows and the rapid cooling inside the tank
Thank you for the honest review, Roy!
EDIT : To save wear on the testing files, you should start at the highest and work down from there. Otherwise, the lower range files will need to be replaced prematurely. And I'm not just blowing wind. Have worked industrially 40 + years in maintenance, tooling, heat treatment, etc.
Great tip!
Thank you for the great tip!
Mate, I absolutely love that you put the correction out there. You're a good quality man.
I use those files to check my knives so i was suprised to see you got a set because well you dont make knives. I never thought to use them on an anvil face but i like that idea for sure!
Thanks Roy I wondered about the hardness test files. I came across them and just brushed them off. Will look forward to additional videos using them. Wayne
Thanks Roy I got to have a set I could use a set today thanks an God bless
Glad to hear you're going to test the Amazon anvil; I am quite curious to see where it comes in.
I have had a set for awhile and I like them. I don't know why I never thought the test my 1902 Trenton anvil... Thanks Roy I'm going to try that 👍
I'd say the files are great for testing tools, knives or whatever you produce and harden. But testing an anvil that you're (probably) happy with has no obvious point other than curiousity.
@@Qrunch That's the idea 👍
They’re very useful and cheap enough for anyone to buy. At this date, they’re available for about $60, if you look. They’re made in Japan, and are the standard others are judged by. But, even these aren’t 100% accurate. The files themselves are accurate to about plus/minus 1 RC per file. So a 50 file could be 49 to 51. It does come with an English manual. I use them for quick readings when they’re not critical. I make, harden/temper machine parts I make. They’re much more critical than blacksmithing. That’s not a put down of blacksmithing. Each has it own purposes. My “real” Rockwell tester is accurate to about plus or minus 0.25 Rockwell. But because it’s not a computerized model, it means that you must to test it every time you use it to make sure it hasn’t drifted. So these files are easy and will get you into the ball park. But don’t get too upset about anvil readings. High quality manufacturers make them from 48 RC to 58 RC. It depends on their philosophy.
By the way, if doing the rebound test, don’t use too big a bearing. Proper rebound testers use small bearings, about 3/8”, even smaller. Large bearings have enough mass to dent the material which partly negates the test. Or the rebound is from a very short distance.
Thank you sir for showing your files!!!
I've used a Rockwell test machine before but these files look like a good quick way to check stuff out
Nice testing set :)
I was thinking about picking up a set of those. Nice video, thanks!
Now I wanna get some to test my 426 lb south German pattern double horn and my 200 lb north german production/"cutlers" anvil. Oh yeah and my mint condition 100 lb Vulcan.....and my hammers and my axes and...........the list goes on!!!!
isn't the very top surface most likely to experience heating that would reduce its hardness?
Thanks for the great review. Now my question is. What is a good Rockwell range for an anvils face to be in? Which I’m sure the answer is coming in a future video.
Great video Roy!
Thanks for the video, it was very informative. Have a good night.
PS it has Made in Japan on the handle.
There are several other hardness scale besides the Rockwell scale, such as Brinnel. There is no clear cut way to make comparisons between the different scales. Understanding 'hardness' is HARD! But that is basic materials science (from what I understand), and materials science strikes me as one of the few 'wizardly' bits of knowledge that still exist. I know there are people that actually understand it, and a larger number of people that SAY they understand it, but I don't have a problem admitting my general ignorance or the subject.
Where are you located? It looks like it’s cold where you are like it is here in Wisconsin.
Roy and I are both on the other side of the pond from you. I'm 3 miles from Lake Michigan and Roy is on the other side of the state by lake Huron.
Michigan :)
Sorry for going off topic but do you or anyone have an issue with propane tanks freezing in use? and how to prevent?
I will make a video on it eventually :-) but all propane tanks will eventually freeze up so usually you just get a bigger tank if it's a continual problem
@@ChristCenteredIronworks if I may interject my observation.
Yes they frost up. But if you have a way to link up 2 or more in seiries it greatly reduced the frosting. Also setting them in a tub of water slows the process of frosting through thewater conducting Temp.
Sorry I can't tell you the exact process that causes the frost. I'm sure Roy will when he made his video
Dragonstone Gem & Ironworks Crawford I’m just a hobbyist, have a 7 gallon tank single burner, 30 psi reg but I can and do weld (3/4 diameter and smaller) at 25+psi...
God forbid when it’s frosted/frozen and only have 10psi.. I “don’t” take my torch and heat the tank...... or hot water to get to 25psi...
Any thought on electric blankets or reptile tank heaters?
Billy out. LOL
@@billygildark4565 please try to refrain from taking a torch to your propane tank to thaw it!!! The thought of it gives me the chill. I'm not trying to preach.......I do a LOT of stupid stuff but I feel taking a torch to a propane tank is out right dangerous. I'm sorry for the rant I just want people to live to see another day!
@@billygildark4565 , haven't heard of anyone using blanket. Just water and tandem tanks together. What tandem together tanks does is slow the flow from each tank. As the slow flows the expansion from liquid into gassious state slows and the rapid cooling inside the tank
Please test the 66lbs anvil
Nice video
I think I was first to like video. Didn’t know they had files like that. Thanks.
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#blacksmithquestionoftheday Roy is there a way to dress an claw hammer if so how please?
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Lol nope I was first 😂
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