The polaris patriot 850 makes about 180hp on the dyno but got no where near as much top end as the etec 850 maybe got to re gear the patriot and clutch it i like stock 2 stroke big bore motors
Makes stock hp up to 8000ft at 8000ft stock non turbo 850 only makes 125ish hp where the 850 turbo makes 165hp the same as stock non turbo 850 makes at sealevel 0ft. 0 hp gain for sealevel ppl but 40hp for mountin ppl
Yes you could but then the ECU would not manipulate the timing and fuel to correctly match the airflow and cylinder pressure to remain safe. Our tunes will be commanding additional boost not fooling the sensors.
are you aloud to run the dyno ?not sure if that was right way to test on the dyno.do you let off the gas when your in the shit . what hp will it hold at red line or when it falls out at a rpm max
Did u say 1k ft or u ment 10k? Pretty lame for at a 1k ft. Did they undersize this turbo to get rid of turbo lag and max it out at a lower RPM? Almost seems that way as it's set up now. I wouldn't waste the money on that set up.
The turbo just compensates for power loss at altitude. Computer corrects it to 165 hp until 8000 ft then holds a 40 hp advantage over N/A above that altitude. Its great for mtn guys. These guys are playing with tu es I think they said they easily got it to 210-215 hp with just the reflash but not positive on that
Kwmike-D...First of all you need to understand how this system works. It’s much more like how turbocharged piston aircraft systems work. However, since you don’t know about this I highly doubt you are educated about aircraft systems. Not trying to be a dick here at all, but it’s nearly impossible to explain here easily. The easiest way to look at it, is like a glorified altitude compensator. This system is not designed like your regular throw direct compressor housing output (boost) into a small airbox/manifold and directly into the throttle bodies (like the majority of aftermarket kits). There is series of all kinds of valves, tubes, bypass ducts and on and on to get it to work this way.....and yes, it is on purpose. Take all of that out and run the compressor outlet directly into the throttle bodies (like aftermarket kits) and it would act completely different. However, then this specific computer program and mapping would not just up and work properly. I’m sure the aftermarket guys are already on this and will be eliminating many of those valves, ducts, etc very soon and playing with it like that. All of those ducts, valves, the wastegate, etc etc are all electronic and run in a certain sequence of parameters, which are all controlled by the ecu. However, then if you do that, you are right back to a regular type aftermarket kit and I doubt this turbo is capable of running the boost levels like we run with our regular Garret’s or Borg Warner’s.....maybe, but we just don’t know yet. I have a feeling we will very shortly.
@@darrellpatenaude3825 I run my Polaris 850 at 7,900 rpm. I never have to ride above 2,000 feet due to being in Alaska. I notice I can’t pull certain hills like I could at 8100 but I’ll take a reliable torque driven motor than winding it out and blowing it up.
What planet are you from? They run neck and neck and the doo typically has more top end. The turbo is a mountain sled that is only designed to add hp as elevation increases. No gain near sea level
I will say the poo has the best front end in the business. I still think I’m faster in the trails on my 15 Indy than I am on my 19 tnt 850 skidoo. But as far as motors go the Polaris has been chasing skidoo for a while now. I’ve owned and ridden both plenty. I’d have to say the skidoo etecs have been in the front for a while now as far as 2 strokes go. All while getting better fuel and oil mileage. Just how I see it
@@ultrazls1 finally someone with a brain. Right now I’m on Polaris because our warranty and turn around for me is nearly the moment I bring it in the door. I like both sleds but the fit and finish on the ski doo is twice that of the Polaris. I think right now both companies are poking at each other. Neither of the two are making leaps and bounds over the other. Ridden both my entire life and would be happy with either 850.
Turbo don't matter what elevation your at
Awesome Joey, thank you for sharing!
When will you run the polaris on the dyno🙌 i wanna see if i have to tune my skidoo haha
You’re gonna have to run a tune
190 for Polaris
The polaris patriot 850 makes about 180hp on the dyno but got no where near as much top end as the etec 850 maybe got to re gear the patriot and clutch it i like stock 2 stroke big bore motors
Cold pipe was 179. True power after a couple pulls was 174. Last dyno I seen for 850 etec from him was 172 warm.
@@ultrazls1 850 etec all the way faster then the patriot on top emd itll win 9 times out of 10 on drag racing
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 Not the races i've seen, doos always seem to come up short
@@destroytheilluminati770 race em longer youll see whos hp falls flat on there ass after 100mph
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 Houghton Lake michigan and lake gogebic wide open runs that i have seen says otherwise, doo's turbo 850 is a pig
Man those 850 doos put the poos to shame
So turbo worth +$4K adds 4hp over stock 850?
Makes stock hp up to 8000ft at 8000ft stock non turbo 850 only makes 125ish hp where the 850 turbo makes 165hp the same as stock non turbo 850 makes at sealevel 0ft. 0 hp gain for sealevel ppl but 40hp for mountin ppl
@@kylemccutcheon3360 You lower 48 people lol.
what about the 900 ace turbo is that a good sled ?
Joey is there a way you manipulate the altitude sensor and make it think its 10 k above sea level when your really not ?
Yes you could but then the ECU would not manipulate the timing and fuel to correctly match the airflow and cylinder pressure to remain safe. Our tunes will be commanding additional boost not fooling the sensors.
are you aloud to run the dyno ?not sure if that was right way to test on the dyno.do you let off the gas when your in the shit . what hp will it hold at red line or when it falls out at a rpm max
Did u say 1k ft or u ment 10k? Pretty lame for at a 1k ft. Did they undersize this turbo to get rid of turbo lag and max it out at a lower RPM? Almost seems that way as it's set up now. I wouldn't waste the money on that set up.
The turbo just compensates for power loss at altitude. Computer corrects it to 165 hp until 8000 ft then holds a 40 hp advantage over N/A above that altitude. Its great for mtn guys. These guys are playing with tu es I think they said they easily got it to 210-215 hp with just the reflash but not positive on that
Kwmike-D...First of all you need to understand how this system works. It’s much more like how turbocharged piston aircraft systems work. However, since you don’t know about this I highly doubt you are educated about aircraft systems. Not trying to be a dick here at all, but it’s nearly impossible to explain here easily. The easiest way to look at it, is like a glorified altitude compensator. This system is not designed like your regular throw direct compressor housing output (boost) into a small airbox/manifold and directly into the throttle bodies (like the majority of aftermarket kits). There is series of all kinds of valves, tubes, bypass ducts and on and on to get it to work this way.....and yes, it is on purpose. Take all of that out and run the compressor outlet directly into the throttle bodies (like aftermarket kits) and it would act completely different. However, then this specific computer program and mapping would not just up and work properly. I’m sure the aftermarket guys are already on this and will be eliminating many of those valves, ducts, etc very soon and playing with it like that. All of those ducts, valves, the wastegate, etc etc are all electronic and run in a certain sequence of parameters, which are all controlled by the ecu. However, then if you do that, you are right back to a regular type aftermarket kit and I doubt this turbo is capable of running the boost levels like we run with our regular Garret’s or Borg Warner’s.....maybe, but we just don’t know yet. I have a feeling we will very shortly.
So would you say in real world riding that 7700-7800 is the sweet spot to clutch to?
Anyone have an opinion on this boys saying rev it 8000-8100. To me looking like no higher then 7900 and lower is nice as well.
Wish someone would chime in on this one. 7700 to 7800 sounds like where a person should be clutching to, no higher then 7900
@@darrellpatenaude3825 I run my Polaris 850 at 7,900 rpm. I never have to ride above 2,000 feet due to being in Alaska. I notice I can’t pull certain hills like I could at 8100 but I’ll take a reliable torque driven motor than winding it out and blowing it up.
@@Sackmatters I am clutched now to 7800 pulls good
@@darrellpatenaude3825 Glad to hear it. I bet that sled will run forever.
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A turbo'd doo 850 still cant beat a bone stock polaris 850? LOL pathetic
What planet are you from? They run neck and neck and the doo typically has more top end. The turbo is a mountain sled that is only designed to add hp as elevation increases. No gain near sea level
I will say the poo has the best front end in the business. I still think I’m faster in the trails on my 15 Indy than I am on my 19 tnt 850 skidoo. But as far as motors go the Polaris has been chasing skidoo for a while now. I’ve owned and ridden both plenty. I’d have to say the skidoo etecs have been in the front for a while now as far as 2 strokes go. All while getting better fuel and oil mileage. Just how I see it
@@ultrazls1 finally someone with a brain. Right now I’m on Polaris because our warranty and turn around for me is nearly the moment I bring it in the door. I like both sleds but the fit and finish on the ski doo is twice that of the Polaris. I think right now both companies are poking at each other. Neither of the two are making leaps and bounds over the other. Ridden both my entire life and would be happy with either 850.