Did Jesus claim to be the Son of God? Tom Wright responds to Bart Ehrman and other questions
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- "Jesus was NOT the Son of God - claims Bart Ehrman, what do you say, Tom?"
In this episode of Ask NT Wright Anything, Tom Wright and Mike Bird tackle profound theological questions about Jesus as the Son of God, the Eucharist, the Ten Commandments, and the Sabbath.
Did Jesus really claim to be the Son of God? And Tom Wright directly responds to Bart Ehrman’s argument that Jesus was not divine, offering a historical and biblical case for Jesus' identity.
They also explore the role of the Eucharist in Christian worship, the relevance of the Ten Commandments today, and how the Sabbath is fulfilled in Christ, inviting believers into a new way of rest and renewal.
💡 Key topics this week:
✅ Was Jesus the Son of God?-Tom Wright challenges Bart Ehrman’s claims
✅ The Eucharist-why it matters for Christian faith and practice
✅ The Ten Commandments-their role in shaping Christian ethics
✅ The Sabbath as a fulfilled reality-what that means for daily life
✅ The Old Testament sacrificial system and how it points to Christ
📖 If you’ve ever wondered about Jesus' identity, the meaning of the Eucharist, or how to understand the Sabbath today, this episode offers deep insights grounded in scripture.
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Bart Ehrman does not understand the relationship between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, because he says Jesus and Paul were not teaching the same thing.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below?
Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9.
If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
What is the location of the "temple of God" in the Book of Revelation? The answer is revealed in Rev. 3:12 and Rev. 11:19 in heaven, and not in the wicked city found in Rev. 11:8. This temple is located in the same city promised to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:13-16 and also described in Hebrews 12:22-24.
What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the UA-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Like Bart Ehrman, I grew up in American Fundamentalism. As a young adult I became more of a Neo-Orthodox thinker. But I am now in much more academic agreement with the views of the current Ehrman. Both Tom Wright and Mike Bird are Fundamentalists in most key theological views, they just don't know it because they do not understand American Fundamentalism very well. If the great Fundamentalist theologians, like J. Gresham Machen or B. B. Warfield, were conversing with Wright and Bird they would agree on more Christian views and theology than not. While Wright and Bird know their theology well, they appear poorly educated in modern American Christian thought. Nor are they very careful with explaining Ehrman’s views. Since they both know Ehrman so well, it is so sad that they misrepresent him so badly. This leads me to wonder if they are just uncritical thinkers or intentionally misrepresent him.
Really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting.
JESUS has become WISDOM to new Recreated Believers.
I would really love to believe that Jesus was God himself. But because there is so much debate and mind-bending theological hoops we need to jump through is what makes me not believe.
If Jesus is truly the son of God, it should be clear as day for EVERYONE.
But that is not the case.
If God was really God he would not be indistinguishable from the other gods of that time and area.
@kevinkelly2162 I think I get what you're saying. Can you elaborate a bit more?
Bizarre arguments about the Sabbath Mr Wright.
Where are the first 3 Commandments specifically reiterated in the New Testament, let alone by Paul? As for the sabbath, there is more teaching on that in the New Testament than on all the rest of the Commandments put together.
Taken as a whole, the New Testament is unequivocal in its support for the Christian observance of the Biblical sabbath, which ran from sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday.
For example, expecting Sabbath observance to continue until the end times, Jesus - the Lord of the Sabbath (Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5) - told his disciples to pray that, when they see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place, their flight not be on a Sabbath (Matthew 24:15-20).
In Acts 13:42-48, jewish and gentile converts alike observed the Sabbath.
When writing to _gentile_ Christians in 48AD, the Council at Jerusalem noted: “from early generations Moses has had in every city those who preach him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues” (Acts 15:21). In other words, the Council was writing to sabbath-observing gentiles. At this early stage in church history, there was no New Testament for Christian congregations (which typically met in synagogues) to draw on.
The Apostle Paul - the apostle to the gentiles - consistently observed the Sabbath (Acts 13:14 & 42-44; 16:13; 17:1-2; 18:4-11). After 3 years before visiting Peter in Jerusalem (Galatians 1:18), a further 11 years’ Christian ministry before the Jerusalem Council (Galatians 2:1) and at least 11 years ministry after that (Acts 25:1), Paul declared:
_“Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended at all”_ (Acts 25:8)
meaning Paul had kept the Sabbath for at least 25 years as a Christian._
Given Paul's admonition that:
_neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God_ (1 Corinthians 7:19),
what criteria do you use to decide which commandments to obey? See also Matthew 5:19; 15:3; Mark 7:8-9; John 14:25; 1 John 2:3-4; 3:24; 5:2-3.
Paul also wrote:
_Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ_ (1 Corinthians 11:1)
And, like Paul (his imitator), Christ faithfully kept the Sabbath. See also 1 Corinthians 4:16; Ephesians 5:1; 1 Thessalonians 1:6.
As for *Colossians 2:16-17* - which contains the only Sabbath reference in the entire Pauline corpus - it _does not_ say Christians can ignore the weekly Sabbath; that is the exact opposite of Paul's meaning. It is worth citing Paul's words in full:
_Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in matters of food and in matters of drink or aspects of a feast or a new moon or sabbaths which are an outline of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ._
The first thing to notice is that Paul was telling his audience to not let anyone pass judgement on them for _participatiing_ in these things, not for their failure to participate in them. Moreover, the Greek text refers to sabbaths in the plural (σαββάτων - sabbatōn) - not _the_ Sabbath (σάββατον - sabbaton) in the singular - note the difference in spelling and pronunciation. Furthermore, the context is one in which Paul is countering human traditions that are "not according to Christ" (cf. Colossians 2:8), which clearly do not apply to the institution of the weekly Sabbath in Genesis 2:3 and its proper observance. Paul's advice here should also be understood in light of the Pharisaic criticisms leveled at Jesus on the related topics (Matthew 11:19; 12:1-2).
Note, too, that all these sabbaths/weeks, feasts and new moons _are_ an outline (shadow) of things to come, not _were_ a mere shadow of things that have passed into history and their "substance belongs to Christ" *in the present.* In Colossians 2:20-23, Paul goes on to tell the Colossians that man-made rules about these things have _an appearance of wisdom but are of no value in checking the indulgence of the flesh._
In context, then, Colossians 2:8, 16-23 tells Christians that they should not allow anyone to pass judgment on them for the food they eat, the liquids they drink, or for participating in the Jewish feasts, new moon observances and sabbaths. And they can safely ignore pagan rest days and non-biblical sabbath rules; they are not told they can ignore the weekly Sabbath.
Just as the institution of marriage as the union of one man with one woman is grounded in creation (Genesis 2:23-24; Matthew 19:4; Mark 10:6-9) so too is the sabbath as a day blessed and hallowed by God grounded in creation (Genesis 2:3). Those who assert that the sabbath has been abolished are, in effect, denying Jesus' lordship (Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5) over that day.
The sabbath is a blessing, not a burden, and should be welcomed for what it is.
Luke 13:15-17
15 Then the Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Does not each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or his donkey from the manger and lead it away to water it? 16 And ought not this woman, daughter of Abraham whom Satan bound for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day?” 17 As he said these things, all his adversaries were put to shame, and all the people rejoiced at all the glorious things that were done by him.
@derekallen4568 Your point being?
@@Berean_with_a_BTh the opposite of your looong drawn out point
@@derekallen4568 All that proves is that you haven't got a clue what your 'proof-text' is about.
Although Jesus is often said to have broken the Sabbath (Matthew 12:2, Mark 2:24; Luke 6:1-2; John 5:16-18; 9:16), what He in fact did was to: assert His authority over it (Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5); restore its observance to its proper basis (Mark 2:27); and confirm the true scope of what could be done on that day (Matthew 12:10-12; Mark 3:3-5; Luke 6:6-10; 13:10-17; 14:1-6; John 5:2-19; 7:23, 9:1-34).
Your 'proof-text' is just part of one of those in which Jesus admonished the Pharisees for imposing unbiblical restrictions on what can be done on the sabbath, per
*Leviticus 23:3*
_Six days shall work be done; but on the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation; you shall do no work; it is a sabbath to the LORD in all your dwellings._
Do try to treat Scripture with more respect next time.
TLTR!!
Hello Tom,
It would help to describe/define Divine Immanence 😊
I observed that Paul approximate it to 'the Fullness of God in Christ '
I would like to re-phrase that statement , JESUS IS the SON of GOD , “ HE is the second person of the MOST HOLY TRINITY , “ anyone who denies me in this life , I will deny him before my FATHER in heaven ✝️
22:51These folks are having Waaay to much fun!
I hope that this comment is read and thought about.
How about looking at all the Sabbaths in the new testament as a celebration of the fulfillment to which they pointed. Let's look to the end of the book of Zecheriah. And see this in this light
Scholars talking about issues of faith, not of historical facts.
He still is the Son of God,and will be forever.
Ceremonial laws were pointing to JESUS?
Question for NT Wright,
Why are Christian/or Paul's interpretations of Jewish scriptures *objectively* the correct interpretations over the interpretations of the Pharisees and later the Rabbis?? both of which denied Jesus, Paul's interpretations, and all Christian doctrines based on the traditions, and scriptures they inherited from the prophets themselves
There is nothing objective about any Biblical interpretation. It's all subjective. It can't be anything other.
Annoyingly, UA-cam deleted my previous comment, so I'll try again.
Tom seeks to invalidate Bart's scholarship as a product of veering "from the far right to the far left" (evangelicalism to atheism) which not only an _ad hom_ attack, but untrue. During his PhD studies and the first decade part of his career (about 15 years in total) he was "in the middle" as a denominational Christian, just like Tom. His scholarship most certainly cannot be dismissed as some type of whiplash from veering from one extreme to the other.
It seems to me that what is missing is a discussion of the premise. Did Jesus rise from the dead and appear to his disciple over a period of time, expressed in scripture as 40 days? If he did then he identified himself to them as the Son of God, not merely as this hugely human figure,
Not at all. Even if we grant the resurrection, it would be equally consistent to say that God raised the Messiah. Another thing you probably haven’t considered: It could have been Satan who rose Jesus, simply to create an almost-correct religion that worships the wrong God. If you’re willing to accept supernatural explanations, you make your beliefs unfalsifiable, and thus indistinguishable from many alternatives.
That it was the Father who raised Jesus from the dead isn't even in dispute. See Acts 2:23-24, 32; 10:10; 13:30; Romans 6:4, 10-11; 8:11; 2 Corinthians 13:4; Galatians 1:1; Colossians 2:12.
You'll have to pick another argument.
Lol… Saturday is my day of complete rest; and time to attend to a relaxing time in the garden, hobbies and/or bible study. I rarely leave the house, but I don’t make it a religious event either.
10 Commandments should be broken down into the 2 Commandments. Love and duty toward God and love and duty toward God’s creation; which includes our neighbour, guided by the model of the Lord’s Prayer and our observance of the Lord’s Supper; through daily prayer.
Why choose "neighbour" and not "enemies"? (Matthew 5:44)
Too uncomfortable?
@ Last I checked, we shouldn’t have any enemies to be uncomfortable about.
@@EnglishMike Have you ever thought about that line… and then considered why many Christians are so disingenuous?
Maybe contemplate the meaning for a while.
‘Love your enemies.’ - Love those who are different than you? Keep thinking… Love your neighbour?
Hmm. Keeping the worshiping god part is a good idea because the monster will burn you for eternity if you don’t.
@ Yikes… They never told me about that part. I thought it was just an interesting topic to study. lol!
Bart Ehrman lives rent free in alot of evangelicals heads 😅. A claim is not evidence and that's why critical examination of biblical claims is responsible and necessary
Sabbath is resting in the finished works of JESUS at the CROSS.
What's with the full on caps?
You invented that definition, Yahweh didn't
What does that mean in plain English?
There's a divine revelation that clears up all this 'Son of God', 'Son of Man' confusion. In point of fact, this revelation goes a bit further than Tom supposes. According to this revelation, Jesus is our Paradise Creator Son of God, offspring of the first and second members of the Trinity. He is the head of our local universe of Nebadon. He incarnated as Jesus in order to experience what life was like from our point of view in order to be even more merciful than he already was, as well as to illuminate for us what our Divine Father-friend is really like. He modeled for us what it looks like to live a life where one allows oneself to be led by God... to follow the leadings of still small voice, (or "Thought Adjuster" as this revelation calls it, a pre-personal spirit fragment of God). It's not a preset set of rules to follow, but rather an interpersonal relationship based on trust and a desire to be more perfect. Correct courses of action are determined in the moment by all the circumstances involved. And this spirit fragment knows what's best for all concerned, in that moment, and offers suggestions as to what to do, or illuminates insight such that we can understand for ourselves what makes the most sense.
The name of this revelation is the Urantia Book. A kind of Bible 2.0 if you will, except written by celestial beings, not humans.
Tom sounds like a Protestant. Tom Aquinas used Aristoteles's ideas to elucidate Christian doctrines but merely as metaphors.
Bart is doing history, Tom is doing theology so obviously they will reach different conclusions about who Jesus was.
So apparently pointing out what’s CLEARLY found in all four Gospels texts is “theology” to you??? Ok, what’s next… pointing out that all four Gospels accounts have Jesus was being condemned for charges of “blasphemy” for claiming to be the “son of god” isn’t found in all four the Gospel text then too right??? LOL WHAT DO YOU THINK JESUS WAS BEING CRUCIFIED FOR EXACTLY??? Dear lord, you and Bart Ehrmann are absolute jokes of Atheist apologist. 🤣😭😂
@@benclark4823Tom is doing what all Christian scholars do, they presuppose the validity of scripture and then interpret it to align with their theology. Bart is an atheist he makes no such presupposition and tries to find some historical kernel within the text.
Given that Jesus never penned a single word, all we have is the words that the gospel authors placed onto Jesus's lips. Tom presupposes every word, so placed, was spoken by Jesus, Bart does not.
This doesn't make Bart defacto right, but it does, as I said, explain their different conclusions.
As to why Jesus might have been crucified, that's easy. Jesus was a provocative trouble maker who was disposed of by the Romans as they did with so many other trouble makers.
As an aside, capitalisation and your Psalm fourteen based ranting, doesn't defacto make you right.
I suggest that you read 1 Peter 3: 15 and do better.
A statement dripping with your own bias.
@@ignatiusTH2It's a statement of fact, I draw no conclusion as to whom, if any, is correct.
My reply has been hidden, to see it you will need to change how comments are sorted.
Jesus is none other than GOD, our Father,Source, Creator, our Salvation, manifested in flesh! Son of man was HIS favourite expression of HIMSELF to show us HE was none other than the 1 GOD, not a second part/portion,person, who became FULLY man.
Yes, he did. It's in the book. Next question, please
Tom seems oblivious to Mark 2 and its significance to the Sabbath. His theology by omission is palpable.
Sabbath knows the Lord washers of HIS shared Feet of Neighbors? Likewise, Sabbath nought without the LIVING WATER to washed thy Feet.
Yes of course Jesus was the Son of God that hat he said and told his disciples he didn’t confuse them with philosophical ideas like what is happening today . He never said he was Almighty God and never taught the Trinty that he as equal to Almighty god his father as he said . He was the Son of God , You can’t be the Son and the Father at the same time .
Yeshua is the Son of God not God not God the Son. Not anything other then What God meant Him to be THE SON the Beloved LITERALLY....this is NOT debatable
No!
Or maybe he calls himself the son of God and God his father actually mean exactly what they say. Is it to difficult to believe that Jesus was created by God as his first creation before anything else?
Exactly...the first logical, biblical comment here 🙏...it took me years to understand what I was being taught by the church about "God dying on the cross" was not what Scripture says. God is God, Jesus is His human son, and The Holy Spirit is God's working power.
Great exegesis. Simple and to the point. Whats there not to understand? Ingeneous on the part of this Bart or rather Bud?
Short answer : No
BART was right
This is bad from Wright .what it means for Jesus to be The Son is that he is YHWH because he is the Son begotten before all ages
Psalm 110:3 consonantal text and LXX
Before the morning the star (time /creation ) , from the womb I Begot you
Proverbs 8
The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works [b]of old.
23 From ETERNITY I was established,
From the beginning, from the earliest times of the earth.
24 When there were no ocean depths, I was begotten /Born ,
When there were no springs abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills, I was Begotten/born ;
That’s why Mark uses YHWH to explain the title Son of God in his prologue . For him they were interchangeable that’s what makes the Roman soldier’s confession so great
Daniel 3;25
25 “Look!” he answered, “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”
The one called the Son of God is later identified as the Angel of the Lord who is called God over and over yet is distinct from two others persons called God in the OT
Completely Off Topic (not that I've ever let a little thing like That stop me! 🙂)
Do people Really understand who that little silicon chip has changed everything? Here we see someone in Australia, talking to someone in England, being listened to by someone in Minnesota! 30(?) years ago this would not be possible. I'm always blown away by that!
Simple: son of Bob does not equal Bob. There’s the answer.
I am sorry I find Bart Ehrman to be one of the most annoying people out. I get his point but he needs to open his eyes in faith for things to become real. He is then in my view, a dangerous man and a misleading man, with a closed mind to the Spirit. I would reject a lot of what he went through when younger and church. Throwing out the baby with the bath water syndrome.
In short: "If you don't believe the right things, you're never going to get it."
Yeah, that's not a good basis for understanding anything.
If a Muslim told you you'll never accept Islam as the one true religion "until you open your eyes in faith," would you accept that as a valid assertion?
as usual 2 hour monologue..dont answer the question..try politics
What suddenly convinced Paul that Jesus had actually been raised from the dead, and therefore was the Son of God, as Peter and the Apostles claimed? In some ways, St. Paul was the Ehrman of his day, rejecting Jesus, and then he totally changes - practically overnight. And isn’t it interesting that Jesus, as well as pretty much telling everyone that he is God, predicted such conversations.
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
He didn’t contradict Peter.
No such thing as son of God or daughter of God. This is pagan terminology used by the Gospels' writers to attract pagan audience. It is primitive human projection. Jesus would not use it. Ilahi Ilahi Lima Shabaktani. My God My God...
Wich god you talking about
GEA CHAOS TITANS OURANOS TITANS POSEIDON APOLLO DEMITRA ATHINA +++all those gods were there
You just copy them
But they are mythological