Police chief arrested while off-duty at Champaign County Fair | WHIO-TV
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- The St. Paris Police Chief was arrested by deputies at the Champaign County Fair over the weekend.
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You attend a fair wearing a tee shirt and shorts, but yet you have to wear your gun and badge for no other reason than to boost your ego.
he's a cop, why would people not want cops there?
100% legal, turd
@@MDbandit10 He's an off duty cop outside of his jurisdiction. (That means he's not able to enforce any laws of that jurisdiction). He is a civilian at that fair, and was treated as such.
@@elmerkilred159 jurisdiction has nothing to do with this. 24/7, as long as he's alive, he's a police officer. do you not understand that? who in their right mind would NOT want a police chief at a fair? does it make ANY common sense to ban off duty police officers????
@@MDbandit10 Nah, dummy, that's not how it works.
Why didn't he just comply like they tell us cops are hypocrites
He didn’t have to comply. These poorly trained and uneducated deputies need to familiarize themselves with The Law Enforcement Safety Act of 2010. He and and law enforcement officers can carry their weapon anywhere they want. Hillbilly Cops are useless
Because he was following Ohio law. www.legislature.ohio.gov/download?key=9265&format=pdf
Because we don’t comply to unconstitutional demands from tyrant police because they are too ignorant to know our rights and want to violate them officer or no officer it’s a lawsuit
Why didn't the Chief "just comply"?
Drunk
C0RRUPT10N !
At least the news isn't reporting on his death for resisting with violence 🤦♂️
Because he knows no matter what he does he will just be put on 'administrative leave' so he can feather his nest.
He wanted the paid vacation.
Lawless SMITH HE WAS DRUNK and Armed
Did you see it? (Asking seriously) because I assume there is more to the story than him simply carrying a gun.
@@330FoeSho There is. Drinking.
Why does he need a gun & badge at the fair? He thinks rules don’t apply to him just like the rest of the cops.
sherrif are cops, they were in there with guns. chief is a cop, why can't he be in there with a gun?
If you haven't noticed lately the world it's not a safe place anymore. Especially in a large group of people there are more likelihood of something happening at a Carnival or Concert for the idiots to possibly harm innocent people. Some law enforcement agency mandate you carry your sidearm at all times. The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) also allows qualified active, retired, or separated law enforcement officers to carry a concealed firearm in any jurisdiction in the U.S. or U.S. Territories, regardless of state or local laws. However, LEOSA does have some restrictions. If you were shopping at a Mall per say and a gunman started shooting up the premises and was threatening or harming innocent bystanders and the Mall had a No Gun Policy and several off duty law enforcement were waiting outside for their spouses or children to finish shopping. What would you rather have happen wait until a uniformed officers arrive or allow the off duty police do their job for which they took a oath for proceed to apprehend the guman.
@@MDbandit10because he was drinking and drunk while off duty and armed...
@@MDbandit10 cause the chief wasn't on duty and had no jurisdiction
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw unless someone is in custody cops have no duty to protect anybody and why didn't he comply, which exact agencies require you to carry it cause then that could be an issue if there drunk and I think the chief was drunk and it was a private event so just like I can tresspass anybody for no reason they can tresspass him for no reason
no man is above the law.
No law is above the right to self preservation... If there is no historical analog law dating to the time of the founding then the law is void on its face. NYSRPA vs Bruen.
@@patricktracy6472 said the freeman lol "Judge's scathing ruling against ‘freeman’ could signal clampdown on anti-government movement" self-preservation in jail
what is the law he broke
Unless your a Police officer apparently.
@@patricktracy6472 Then everyone should be allowed to carry, not just law enforcement. If a regular free American peasant would be arrested and charged for this why can't he?
No open carry is allowed at the County Fair. Period. Only uniformed police. How hard is that to understand.
tell me where it says uniformed police, and not just police. I'll wait
@@MDbandit10 Did the clown get arrested? Yup... No open carry is no open carry son.
@MDbandit10 The police at the fair told him several times. The fair can and does have its rules.
@@earlcampbell7705 rules don't apply to everyone. clearly cops can carry their guns in MANY places where citizens can't, simply because they are police. but why would the fair and police NOT want police to be at their fair? off duty or not. they suspect the chief would do some mischief with his gun? he's a cop, and a chief at that. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
@@Look_What_You_Did you do know detectives don't wear unitforms and open carry right? they could be on the job, and according to you, not allowed in the faair. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
Play stupid games; win stupid prizes
Shame on this cop for refusing to comply...
Wow, very original.. I never heard that before.😂😂😂😂😂😂
A criminal that happened to work as a civilian disguised as an officer of the law. Needs to be dealt with accordingly.
Lay off of the Meth
I'm so sick of these sovereign citizen cops who think they don't have to follow the same laws as the rest of society.
A certified peace officer can carry anywhere in the state.
@@jamescook7713on or off duty as long as they are not drinking/drunk. I wonder if that last part was a factor
Qualified Immunity is why. They DON’T have to follow the laws we do.
@@jamescook7713 Wrong. Federal court houses for starters. Not mention private property. If a cop is on your property without cause, you can him removed. Local cops don't want them acting like cops.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky I've been a certified peace officer since 1987
When out of town follow the commands of the in town-ers.
"While in Rome, do as the Romans do."
These stories are so frequent they’re likened to hearing about a heatwave in summer, or frequent rain in spring. 🤦🏻♂️
Well, that makes 3 police chiefs in 3 days, arrested.
Relax. They all seem to be pretty good guys.
Badges don't grant extra rights.
The chief had every right by Ohio law to carry. www.legislature.ohio.gov/download?key=9265&format=pdf
When you are an off duty LEO and six on duty LEOs tell you to put your gun and badge away and you fail to comply you are going to have a bad day.
The Chief will sue and WIN!!
@@jamescook7713 When? Like Trump wins?
@@jamescook7713 The Chief had a bad day. His superiors forced him to stand down. They think he is a jerk.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky It doesn't matter what his 'superiors' think. STATE LAW says he can legally carry anywhere in the state, IN uniform OR out of uniform.
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky You must be a Gen Z XYLMNOP that doesn't know the difference between shit and Shinola. Go have a soy latte. You need more estrogen. BTW, your great uncle Rudolph was GREAT!
In other words... We have no idea of what's going on, but we'll sensationalise it anyway.
alcohol
The news didn't *sensationalize anything. They provided the facts they had.
Police Chief’s can be some of our worst offenders
*LEO's are
What an uninformative story
waaaaay uninformative lol. especially the last newman guy
Drunk cop.
Agreed. There's a lot more to this story than what was reported.
The interview with the fair worker was less than useless.
@@benrobicheau640 Fair worker says it all.
No one is above the law. That is all.
That would be called blue line privilege! If the law says no one carries that means off duty Leo’s as well. Or are they above the law?
No, in fact the law specifically states that off duty LEOs can carry anywhere in the state of Ohio as long as they are not drunk or drinking.
I wonder if that last part had to do with what went on here. (Pure speculation)
When egos collide
Sadly, a cop breaking the law is not uncommon these days
What law did he break?
@@rolleone6171 they didn't say, I'm sure more information will come
@@rolleone6171 The fairgrounds prohibits the carrying of weapons by cops not on duty.
These days?! Where have you been?
@@davehardan8323 I stand by my comment. I didn't exclude the past in my statement
This is just a pissing contest between 2 different Law Enforcement Agencies in different jurisdictions. Just a low level political thing!
I agree
basically
This scruffy T shirted, shorted, drinking, out of jurisdiction cop smells strongly of urine. When six uniformed cops tell you stop, smart people stop. Dumb ex-cop.
Not just off duty, also out of jurisdiction! Important detail. The whole "Oh we are always on duty" is BS.
so, drunk, out of uniform, out of jurisdiction. Illegal, no matter if he's a cop or not......
where you get drunk from? nothing mentioned that. jurisdiction has nothing to do with this
@@MDbandit10it seems me and you are making our rounds in the comments trying to educate people to no avail.
Unfortunately, based on experience, I think he may have been intoxicated and they were trying to throw him a bone by having him put his gun away. They were probably trying to give him all the chances they could and it didn’t work out. This is of course pure SPECULATION on my part, but that’s kind of what the situation sounds like.
I think Obstructing and Crim Trespass were done so that they didn’t have to make any record of him being (accused of being) drunk.
This Ohio County must be three steps behind the rest of modern times. Simply carrying as an off-duty is with in the Ohio Constitution as a law enforcement officer. Every weekend and weekday there are 1000s of off duty officers, agents, retired, etc that carry a gun and badge. There is a federal statute (LEOSA) that protects law enforcement either off duty or retired to carry in all states. If you concentrate on busting an off-duty, you are bound to be lacking educational standards. I tend to wager this police chief will prevail in civil and criminal court. The suit will be costly to this county. Six deputies losing their LE certification soon to be working at the fair selling cotton candy.
not when he's drunk.
This is how cops can get shot by other cops. They try to act as cops in their shorts and t-shirt and when on-duty police show up, who is holding a gun on someone?
He could be a trigger happy kinda' thin blue line so his firearm must be removed from the fair.
If this cop doesn’t respect other law-enforcement, what makes you think he’s going to respect the public. He’s probably just going to get a slap on the wrist and move onto another police department and violate more laws.
Duh, it's not against the law folks!
You're right Steve. The "deputies" are ignorant of the law.
He was asked to leave private property , he refused.
He was probably trying to pick up on some underage teenage girls.
*bois
Bingo he definitely gave up that creepy Vibe I bet there's skeletons in his closet😅
Irresponsible people shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.
Why was his reply anything other than compliance? He was asked more than once , and was given “lawful “ order by law enforcement
I’m confused by this story? Cops are allowed to carry firearms across the country? So that wasn’t illegal. Why did they even bother him? It seems like an inter agency pissing contest or a really bad news story that didn’t get the real reason for the arrest like intoxication? Threats?
The fairgrounds limits firearms to on duty LEOs.
Time and place restrictions can be invoked. No firearms at the fairground means no firearms on the fairgrounds. On top of that at no point can an individual consume intoxicating substances while in the possession of a firearm. Which is another time and place restriction. Bet you are still confused though.
Leaving a gun in a car is not a good idea.
Really they loss Multiple guns in Indianapolis last week out of patrol cars
That's why he should have left it at home...
Bringing a gun to fair is not a good idea.
That's why no gun zones are terrible
@@aa-hj2fd There were armed officers there.
I've never heard of requiring police officers to go unarmed. Carrying the badge just lets security and other officers know he is a police officer. If he wasn't brandishing or threatening, this seems to be nothing but a power play by the local department. Typical BS between departments.
There is either more to this story(like he was drunk or something) or this was some kind of pissing match between St. Paris and Champaign. Yeah, I have never heard of a sworn officer displaying his badge getting arrested for open carrying a firearm.
He was out of his jurisdiction, he had no arrest powers where he was. so why go with gun and badge?
@@deloughi1887 Puffery
The rules and regulations for this fair clearly state that NO weapons are allowed on premises. I refer you to page 26 of the document presented in the following link:
champaign.osu.edu/sites/champaign/files/imce/Program_Pages/4H/4HFair/Champaign%20County%20Fair%20Book%202024.pdf
The St Paris police chief, while off duty, out of his jurisdiction, and not acting in any way on behalf of the fair, is no different than any other citizen. The fact that he believes he does not have to comply with the fair's rules and regulations demonstrates his arrogance and his belief that rules and laws don't apply to him. The fair organizers are completely within their rights to have him removed from the property, and appropriate action was taken. Period.
I think this was a local cop vs sherrif p!ssing n contest
As a cop he tells people to do things, NO questions asked. So when he goes to another jurisdiction and the cops there tell him to do things and he doesn't , he needs to find another line of employment.
OMG! He's a grown man, and is supposed to be able to "follow police commands." Whats the problem?
Sounds like BS. Why would they do this. It makes no sense.
Why would he open carry makes no sense
no sense at all, why would they not want other cops there???
@MDbandit10 it's a private event if they don't want him there he can't be there
Why was he carrying his gun and badge. Why did he fail to comply. He knew he would be cuffed. Dumb cop.
@MDbandit10 alot of people don't trust cops since your probably one you have a ego who thinks you can do whatever he wants
One thing THEY ARE NEVER OFF DUTY THEY ALWAYS THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL SOMEONE ELSE WHAT TO DO
Those "deputies" screwed the pooch. The Chief has a LEGAL right to carry anywhere in the state.
not when he's drunk, fool.
@@pokeysdad17 Nope. Time and place restrictions can be invoked. No firearms at the fairground means no firearms on the fairgrounds. On top of that at no point can an individual consume intoxicating substances while in the possession of a firearm.
@@pokeysdad17 Who said he was drunk, foolish clod poll.
@@pokeysdad17 I understand that you like to Puff the magic dragon!! Hahahahahahahaha
@@Look_What_You_Did nope Law Enforcement Safety Act 2010. The Sheriffs Department is screwed. The charges are CYA and will get tossed.
It was a county fair with children , young people and adults attending, why would you carry a gun
Great job! Everyone is accountable... Lock him up.
as far as I'm aware, Cops carry 24/7, unless been drinking...which, possession of a firearm, while intoxicated, is illegal, just about everywhere..and also include "open carry", "Concealed Carry" rights in the argument....pretty sure, the local cops, were wrong...unless, Chief been drinking
sovereign citizen
Cops are not cops when they are not on scheduled duty, they are a private citizen. They should be held accountable the same way as a private citizen
He should be fired he's a danger to society
Anything that In fringes upon your right to bear arms, Is unconstitutional....
Federal courthouses?
It's about time for the Police knows that they are not above the law.
Again with the above the law mentality of these rogue cops. Ego is a heavy burden.
The state’s attorney will decide who’s right or wrong
The state's attorney will decide, or not, to indite. A jury will decide who is right or wrong. Unless this Tin Horn cops a plea.
Guy was told 3 times what is there to discuss . He knows the law he knows you have to listen to lawful orders. He didn't he went to jail.
Would law enforcement have given any other citizen multiple chances to comply, especially if the infraction was egregious?
Fired no pension charged what's the problem?
Case dismissed. Off duty police officers are allowed federally to carry their firearm at all times in all states unless in a federal building. This is nonsense.
Not open carry
Was he under the influence
Even the fed building rule is off the table thanks to Bruen.
@@billdublewhopper3064 he's only tough when carrying it around like a binky
@@user-hj4uf9wz1z all law enforcement are allowed to carry open with identification. Especially a chief of police who sets the rules for his dept carrying off duty. Case dismissed
HE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE OFFICERS THE FIRST TIME. THAT'S THE ENTITLEMENT THE SHERIFF HAS. HE CAN JUST IGNORE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH HIM. OUT OF JURISDICTION. THEY'RE NOT A CHIEF. HE'S THE CHIEF. HE CAN DO WHAT THE HELL HE WANTS. NOT TODAY CHIEF
Typical first responder activity
He had been taken off duty and was still in costum. He was impersonating an officer at that point.
is it legal for anyone to walk around displaying a gun?
was this officer there on official duty? if so, why was he listed as off duty?
if he was “off duty” he should not be armed or displaying his badge.
but ss punishment no jail time, no charges. he gets a free paid vacation.
Typical.....
No opinions needed. Jurisdiction laws take jurisprudence
Thank you officers for doing your job and keeping our communities safer even if it is one of your own we really appreciate that and would rather have that happen than to have them slapped on the wrist and pushed out to a different department. Bad behavior corrupts others
Because laws regarding being armed while intoxicated don't apply to LEOs - just ask them.
Lady who thinks that it's okay he was asked three times that's not complying
It's police ego, nothing else. he could have concealed carried and no one would know, but he's ego controls him.
Anyone who is shocked hasn’t been paying any attention to the behavior of most police officers. “Put on leave pending the results of an internal investigation…” which will miraculously find no wrongdoing. FTPOSP.
The Chief can legally carry anywhere in the state. Lawsuit coming.
Cop on cop arrest? Best arrest I’ve ever seen. Ahahahahah, cops don’t even like themselves. Here’s your example.
Why should it be a problem for any citizens Tobe carrying.....not just this guy .....and with the constitution why would folks support people bring disarmed by guys with arms ......not sure the guy that originally said this ....but if you are will to surrender ur rights for a temporary security......you deserve neither
Law enforcement, police yourselves better.
This is so confusing. He is able to carry because it's an open carry state but I am confused why he was wearing his badge if he's not working in any official capacity. Another weird ass thing about Ohio.
You don't seem to understand what open carry is and is not.
why do you find it weird for an officer to have a badge? wouldn't it make sense to display that sense he's displaying his gun?
Is the county fair inside his departments jurisdiction? That is the important question. If he is the county or state have no authority to demand he put away his badge and gun. If he is not he ought to have done what he was told to do, immediately.
Not his jurisdictio0n.
He might seems like a "good guy" but is he above the law?.
He seems like a pretty good guy? SMH so this lady makes an assumption only by looking at someone.
Thanks for telling the bad element that there are easy pickings to be had at the Fair.
Drunk cops.
Well, I think what will happen is this. He’ll win, the officers will be fired and then this guy will probably run for mayor and probably win.
Ion know why that one lady was so shocked 😲
According to the 2nd amendment, everyone should have the right to carry openly if they are an adult and choose to do so. It’s a crazy world and you never know when you might be forced to defend yourself or your family. My state honors that right, and many take advantage of it.
In operating rooms, schools, police stations, jails, courts, insane asylums? Your state allows Immigrants, children, and felons to carry openly? You are a God Damn liar.
Trump Pence 2024.
The police chief could also arrest the deputy’s for the same thing, in uniform or out he is still a police officer licensed in that state. He will win his case and could sue except for that darn qualified immunity.
What part of off duty don't you get? What part of failing to comply don't you get?
Yes, that’s exactly what it is. It’s an ego thing. If he was a smart man, he would carry concealed and allow the local police to do their job, which was keep the fair safe. I would also imagine that if you would monitor this guy, I would bet that he pushes us as authority on people that he shouldn’t.
I thought he was encouraged to carry, because he's a cop at all times.
Not by the on duty cops. They arrested him after he refused to comply.
Fire your audio guy
Do cops have 2nd amendment rights while off duty. Were the chief's right violated? Gun laws need to be consistent all across the country. Its almost like you need to be a lawyer in every state to know gun laws with updates every 5 minutes.
They do not. Where it is prohibited. Like Federal courts.
His grizzled unshaven face and expression say it all. When told by uniform police there is no open carry he should have done as requested by real police officers and put his gun and badge in his car where it belongs.
He on the other hand obviously he belongs behind bars and not carrying a gun and having police powers.
Pathetically bad "news" story. You left out the most important part, whether or not the law prohibits off duty cops from openly carrying firearms out of their jurisdiction or anywhere else.
If he was asked to do something by fellow cops and he refused, well then, I can see why they arrested him. Legit arrest? Don’t know. Cop looks like he is pretty dumb.
this ego addled gestapo agent was showing off to all bystanders that he was the baddest man in town and looking for a fight.
Unsurprised someone comments they don't know what a jurisdiction is
Good guys follow the rules .
Why didn't he comply?
He didn't have to comply. He carried LEGALLY.
@@jamescook7713 Wrong. Time and place restrictions can be invoked. No firearms at the fairground means no firearms on the fairgrounds. On top of that at no point can an individual consume intoxicating substances while in the possession of a firearm.
wow the public is dumb this isnt the movies they cant just be cops anywhere lmao
My only question… why are more criminal cops not held accountable for breaking the law… this above the law because I have a badge has got to stop… along with these paid vacations (administrative leave)!
Just follow the thread of parrots. Check Federal Law The Chief is protected by it …
Unless there were posted restrictions, i would assume the officer had a 2nd Amendment right to carry.
Citizens are not allowed to carry on on the fairground.
The rules and regulations for this fair clearly state that NO weapons are allowed on premises. I refer you to page 26 of the document presented in the following link:
champaign.osu.edu/sites/champaign/files/imce/Program_Pages/4H/4HFair/Champaign%20County%20Fair%20Book%202024.pdf
The St Paris police chief, while off duty, out of his jurisdiction, and not acting in any way on behalf of the fair, is no different than any other citizen. The fact that he believes he does not have to comply with the fair's rules and regulations demonstrates his arrogance and his belief that rules and laws don't apply to him. The fair organizers are completely within their rights to have him removed from the property, and appropriate action was taken. Period.
When in Tombstone. Give up your jpiece Sheriff, or leave.
Usual suspect!!
Don’t cops carry off duty? Why the big deal?
Not where it is prohibited. Federal courts for example.
seems like a good guy? does she know him?
This whole town has been fraudulent for years I live in sidney and worked in Urbana and I chose to drive around this town do to it’s fraudulent ways I have stories that I would back 💯
Well this will be one for the courts.
Who should win?
The law is the law even for cops. This is the problem cops think there above the law
He gets paid vacation?😮