Why is the Royal Enfield SCRAM 411 So under rated? lets bust some myths!
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- I tested the scram 411 extensively early last year and expected It to be a major hit in the world of motorcycles. Since then Talk about this bike seems to have been very muted. Over the months I have seen many conversations play out in my video comments suggesting that potential owners have been put off by myth and legend. So here's my views on why you should give a second look!
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I love the thing! I'm 60yrs+, live in Michigan, and I am genuinely tired of my overweight 2007 Sportster! I ride every day. Raining, sunny, cold weather, snowing, etc... I pass a Royal Enfield dealership every day to and from work (30+ miles each way). I'm going to buy this motorcycle because it's perfect! Bikes are supposed to be fun, useful transportation. I ride because it's Fun! Everyone needs more of that. Thanks for sharing, J.
I did the same mate. Traded my sportster for a GT 650 a lot more fun and unique for my neck of the woods. Also got a Himalayan and love it on the trails and take it to work 3days per week
I want one.
I own this, this works beautifully
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I’m seriously considering buying this, to go in my garage beside my 350 classic, thanks for the honest review Stuart
Fully agree. People often fail to understand the purpose of these bikes like RE 350 and 411. Wanna speed? Buy a f***ing H2 then. RE already said, many many times, that their bikes are dedicated to the pure motorcycling, which means to enjoy the ride, the bike and the road/scenery all together as one big picture. And to do so you can't rev your bike at max, blur the road and risk your live and others. It's a slower pace travel experience, that transforms you into a more mature rider.
No truer words spoken. I ride a Moto Guzzi V7 Stone and my favorite speed is 35 mph on back country roads. Nice to know their are people out there that get what motorcycling is all about.
Four years ago, I bought a Royal Enfield 500 Pegasus classic £5000 on the road; the first vehicle other than a bicycle that I have ever bought from brand-new. It was occasionally said to me "Why did you buy that? You could've bought a secondhand fire blade for that!" I have been motorcycling for 60 years, and I'm no longer interested in machines that do 160mph and wheelies in fourth gear. On the rare occasion that I use a motorway, I go in convoy with the HGVs. 56mph? Fine. I'm no longer in a hurry a anymore, especially not to wipe myself out. 🫠🇬🇧
it isn't about speed fam....my little 250 cruiser makes more power and has higher speed than this bike. That is sad mate. Especially in the US where highway speeds can easily be 70+ and this bike tops out at 74. That is not good.
@@hammadmaqsood7884 it’s speed limited by the ECU to 80mph by the manufacturer for emissions regulations.
Saying it tops out at 74 is just you bullshitting, especially considering it was stated in this video.
@@honestlion17 we're many 😉
I bought a Scram as a Sunday Bike to ride around the local Lanes [Not Green Lanes] It turned out to be such a lovely Bike I now use it Daily for all purposes [Everything from narrow lanes to Motorways] it handles all of this with ease. The Brakes suit the Bike as on Muddy Gravelly byroads the last thing you want are sharp Brakes. The Scram tends to make you a better Rider because of its nature that slows you down and give yourself more space to overtake or stop. The Scram is not a fast Bike but is capable of maintaining high average speeds for long periods. All in all a wonderful all round Bike that's comfortable and returns 80mpg+.
Words to live by Stu! People really need to start thinking for themselves. It’s a valuable skill! 😁
I reckon the mainstream bike press in the UK, made the same noises about the Interceptor/Continental when they first arrived here. They only changed their tune when the level of sales showed the biking public totally ignored them.
I will get my licence next year and after watching reviews of all kinds of bikes, I settled in the Scram 411. I will be able to commute with it, go off-road during the weekend, go on an adventure with some friends for a couple of days. It’s a jack of all trades and that’s why I believe it will be ideal to introduce me to the motorcycle world!
Try bikes before you buy. Don't decide before you buy!!!
@@chrispekel5709 I will. Thank you for the advice!
Hey Stewart. This is the single Best review of the scram 411 since launch! I am a proud owner of a silver Spirit Scram 411 and I have used it for 20-820 km rides in Greece, one of the worst city road countries in Europe comparable only to India! This bike have been able to handle potholes bumps gravel dirt Pavement tram lines sand and anything I threw on it. The brakes did feel a bit spongy but I got ebc pads from tec bikes and the hitckock levers and solved any issues. The engine is capable of riding up to 110km (70miles) per hour no questions asked all day long. I also got a custom seat made with gel pads and better foam because of my sciatica( personal chronic issue) and the guy that fixed my saddle was so amazed with the quality and water protection coverage of the stock seats as well as the base plate of the seat that went on UA-cam and made a comment about it. Better than triumph bmw KTM Honda Yamaha he deals with every day.
Tl:Dr bike is perfect for commuting city of country roads best bike about there IMHO.
Thanks for the review
Hi Stuart, I’m an ex-police officer (30yrs) police advanced driver and IAM/RoSPA examiner.
You’ve hit the nail on the head exactly with your review of the Royal Enfield Scram 411 and the motorcycling press!
I’ve been riding over 40yrs professionally and for pleasure all over Europe touring, I have never yet solely relied on a motorcycle review prior to purchasing a bike without also visiting a shop and having a test ride.
I’ve been following your channel for some time now after buying myself a Triumph Bonneville T100 and also a Royal Enfield Bullet 500, I have 8 bikes in total ranging from a Yamaha FJR1300 I’ve had 16yrs! To a 1959 Matchless G12 650 and a Harley Softail.
I would not own most of my bikes if I listened to the motorcycling press reviews 😂😂
Keep up the good work 👍😁
When my himalayan was in for service I was given the scram for the day. Around the big towns it was fantastic. Definitely sharper than the himalayan. I didn't enjoy it on the dual carriageway as it was windy and cold and didn't have the get up and go when overtaking a large lorry. However when I got to the coastal roads it felt so nimble and was comfortable. Brakes are fine providing your not riding like a moto gp pilot. I didn't have any problems getting stopped or slowing up behind drivers turning etc. This is the sort of bike suits new young learning riders and older people wanting something in the garage they can run to the shops or go on a Sunday run as well as commute. Anyone can learn maintenance and services themselves. It is well worth a test ride and considering.
"and didn't have the get up and go when overtaking a large lorry"
What do you mean with "the get up and go" it was lacking? I don't understand that. Thank you!
@@theoldleafybeard yes power wasn't there for an overtake. When ou pull out and the full wind hits you the bike struggles to keep momentum to overtake
I've had a Scram for about 6 months. 80mph is about the top, engine is very smooth and doesn't vibrate much at all. Gearbox is very easy to use and provides good feedback.
I had an old lady pull out in front of me and then stop, brakes slowed me down just fine and ABS worked properly.
just had a lady cross 3 lanes of traffic and almost took me out, i was going 50, let off the gas when i saw her start taking off maybe 30-40 feet in front of me. i was able to grab both breaks and slide the back end out to the left and get around her while staying straight on the road. thankfully she stopped but i have had no doubt about this bike's capability after that situation.
I'm a Scram owner with about 3000mi on it. I've had a blast with it, I think it's nearly a perfect beginner's bike. It's perfect for my riding style: commuting/buzzing around my town (Boise, ID), playing in the twisties in our mountains, and highways up to 65mph/100kph. It's been breakdown-free so far, and I've been learning a lot by doing my own maintenance. As a noobie, it's been a great learner bike as it's virtually impossible to stall when starting up from a stop thanks to all the bottom end torque. The one fault I will throw at the bike is one that does agree with your "journalist:" I do find that when I get on the nearby interstate and get over 70mph (speed limit is 80 in these parts) the steering does get what I would call "wobbly" and I guess what he called "loose." That said, I just don't have frequent need to hit the interstate, so it hasn't been a problem for me. For those looking for a great beginner bike or one for low-pressure riding around town, I'd highly recommend it.
Thank you for this. I was looking forward to the Scram coming to the US, but then fell prey to negative reviews. Now I’m thinking a test ride is in order.
You better hurry up and get yours now. Dealerships in the south are selling out fast
@@allentumminello2343 if the nearest dealer doesn’t have one, there’s a place about three hours from me that tries to keep two of each color in stock plus a demonstrator.
@@critterIMHO and where might this be. I bought the last scram my dealer had the middle of February, (Joplin, Missouri)
These bikes have been selling as fast as they come In South. Problem is some dealers are adding $750 to MSRP. I am waiting on the Hunter to come the area.
@@allentumminello2343 The Throttle Company in Columbus, Ohio.
Well said! Stu you hit the nail on the head.
I ride a 21 plate X-ADV. Clearly not a dirt bike. Every single 'review' was off road.
Smoothest throttle I've ever used. Yet every time any of them review anything from Honda "it's got a got choppy throttle".
Look at the Hornet reviews!
They're riding them thinking "so and so said Hondas have all got choppy throttles. Eh does it? I suppose, eh sort of, better write it anyway". Utter, nonsense.
Picked my scram up last Friday. Returning to riding after 15 years and didn't want to get back on a pocket rocket and every owner review of the scram said how much they loved it. Having talked to a few owners i was soon convinced and can confirm, it's a great little bike. Quick enough around town and capable of comfortable motorway cruise. It's fun, looks great and sounds lovely when you give it some.
Mines just about to go in for its first service. I love it, and I’ve had everything from a 50cc Gilera to a Hyabusa. One of the most fun rides I’ve ever had 🤩 Keep up the good work, and never mind the naysayers 😉
My first bike was a Gilera 50 Enduro, brand new in 1977, just before the sixteener law changed! I loved that bike.
@@mrsilbo6499 I wish I’d kept mine! All I have left is the Haynes manual…!
Wanted a 2nd bike to go with my R1250R. Picked up my Scram 411 today from the local dealer. Px’d my G310R. Much prefer the long stroke engine in the Scram. It’s smooth and relaxed to ride. I test rode one last year and really enjoyed it.
The Scram offers everything I want from it. Commute, country lanes and days out visiting places. It does 70mph with ease which is perfectly acceptable.
The brakes are fine and you just ride it to enjoy it. Anyone who says it hasn’t got enough power or the brakes are naff means they aren’t riding it correctly.
The gearbox is very good. Much better than the G310R.
I’m already won over and I’m happy with my decision to buy it 👍
Every time I've watched similar video of yours, I am finding out how similar our philosophy of riding is. I have first hand experience with my own brother, he is like the person from the insurance company.. Aggressive, with only one type of riding existing in his mind.. And there we are 20 years later, I've dawn sized to two 20 hp machines (a classic 350 and a kymco 250 scooter) and he still keeps saying to me, to buy "real" bike over 1000 cc.
Still loving my Scram, around the 30th bike I have owned and one of my favourites. It is used mainly for commuting, which it is brilliant at but I have done some motorway miles with no issues. I previously owned a Shadow 1100 and I didn't particularly enjoy motorways on that either so I don't hold that against the Scram. Brakes are fine in my opinion. My only complaint is the fuel gauge, which reads less than the actual amount in the tank and so it tells me that I need to fill up at about 130 miles, when I still have 7 litres left! I have mentioned it to my RE shop but they weren't that interested. Would I have bought a Hunter if that had been available at the time? Maybe, but I don't regret buying the Scram and it is the bike that has attracted more positive comments from Joe Public and other bikers than any of my previous shiny cruisers.
I also stopped reading motorcycle magazine about 3 years ago. Apart from the performance bias, I couldn't get my head around £12,000 being seen as a reasonable amount of money for a motorcycle or a 900cc bike being referred to as "small".
My Himalayan Fuel Gauge is the same...lol...
i ride a bullet army do most the things do i cant do long moterways allways rode brit singels me last bike waz a hahahonda vtr firestorm im 60 me bullet bullet is perfect for wesh roads the vtr waz to fast fer roads so got a bullet 8000 on clock ive put few hundred on it wana try mine gears on the right four gears one up rest down lol
I have it, did some 5 rides due to winter frost so far and receiver positive comments twice.
@@DJPTEXAS Likewise with my Meteor @ around 7 litres. ....
I have the Himalayan and it’s a fantastic engine. The brakes are perfectly matched to the package. Both brakes must be used for strong stops, but the bike has two brakes; one just has to use both. Otherwise, the front brake is very easy to modulate and works great for trail braking (meaning on-pavement trail braking, not braking on off-pavement trails) and generates little fear of breaking traction during curvy sections or off pavement. The back brake is very strong. I’m quite sure the brakes are more than powerful enough to activate ABS on wet or dirty surfaces, which is kind of the point of ABS, unless I’ve misunderstood for the past three-plus decades that it has been in use. There’s a Scram that cuts through the neighborhood regularly and it’s a great looking and great sounding bike. Looks like the perfect urban assault bike. It’s a much sportier looking bike in person to me; making the Himalayan look dorky by comparison. If I didn’t prefer my maxi scooter around town, I could see a case for the Scram instead. Your observations about the impatient rider types are why I ride solo. These are the same people who routinely exceed speed limits in their cars, too, just like “everybody” else-have to keep up or pass: a mentality I’ve never understood. It’s all about ego at worst; or it’s just mindless, social driving at best.
Only thing unrated about the Scram is the HP. This is a dual purpose bike. I thoroughly enjoy mine. Smooth on the hwy & stable on the dirt/gravel. Best of both worlds. $$$ well spent
I got mine in August I bought it as an everyday work horse I've been very pleased with it, coming up to 4000 miles it's been used everyday through the winter it's been the perfect bike in dodgy weather.I work on a farm last summer used it for checking stock in fields with no problems, it has become my go-to bike with my vfr800x being sadly left in the garage.
How do you find the build quality held up in the winter months? The bolts etc always scream flimsy/cheap/chalky?
Well said about the speed limit Stuart, don't need encouraging to break the speed limit. Don't need more deaths on the road. Speed is a killer.
It reminds me of a chap on UA-cam who was selling his Triumph Scrambler 1200 after a very short ownership. He said that it lacked power and at speeds above 80mph didn't have enough grunt for confident overtaking 🤔. The mind boggles.
Hi Stuart, enjoyed the video, here's my two penneth. I don't have a Scram but I do have a Euro 5 Himmie and I love it to bits.
Here in France I live in the country with low volumes of traffic and plenty of beautiful open roads. She's done just over 10,000 kms and is running as sweet as a nut. As for performance and braking :
Performance - at 10K kms she runs better than ever, overtakes not an issue so long as you plan 'em; speed limits on single carriageway roads 80-90 kph she'll do ALL DAY with a fuel consumption equivalent of 105 mpg; cruising at 110 kph (70 mph) gets me there quicker;
Brakes - in the past I've ridden lots of bigger/more powerful machines with twin discs up front, these made me a lazy rider relying on the front brake only. With my Himmie I tend to ride calmer and I use - when needed - both back and front brakes which stop the bike very briskly indeed.
But what hardly any of the reviewers mention is the absolute pleasure that this bike gives me, the rider. I'm out most days corner carving and she often gets an affectionate 'pat on the tank' as I open out after a series of bends.
I love my Himmie...
if you loved 411 himmie so much. you will fall head over heels for the new one. it's absolute blast. better in every way and way more potent off road and significantly better tourer
Done nearly 1000 miles from new on my Scram. Enjoyed every mile. Always feels like it is taking everything as it comes no matter what weather or road conditions it meets.
Thanks Stuart, the Scram is number one on my list for a second smaller capacity bike to sit alongside my Bonneville. What surprised me when I went to the dealer was that even they discredited it for motorway miles inferring it was a single so no good and potentially shortening it’s life if sustained? I just wanted to know it could get me to Peaks from my home which involves a few short stints on the motorway. Seems even outdated views sit within the dealers selling the bikes. Waiting until April when the demo is available to make up my own mind. Great video and really helpful thank you 👍
Great video Stu. Thanks for sharing.
I'm not sure why the Scram 411 hasn't taken off as well as it could've done. I suspect that some of it's potential buyers might have waited for the Hunter 350? Or that the Hunter has since stolen Scram buyers since it's introduction.
Brakes: Not ridden the Scram yet but I suspect there's plenty of stopping power with a decent squeeze of the front brake with two fingers - and most people can call up an extra three should circumstances dictate? Or maybe consider introducing the rear brake too?
Journo's eh - their constant regurgitation of things written elsewhere? It reminds me of the parroted comment about the BMW Telelever. That this method of front suspension lacks rider feedback causing a lack of confidence when cornering. I've owned two RT's and found the opposite to be true.
Whilst on the subject of BMW, Neither the Scram nor the GS are designed for serious offroading, but I'd rather pick up the Scram in a muddy field than a GS? 😉
I was seriously considering one but in the end it was that bit of ornamental plastic that put me off. I could imagine people asking me what it was. Possible answers: a) it’s to hide the bit of metal that isn’t required, b) it’s to make the bike look better, c) it’s to protect the tank if you drop the bike d) oh I’m not sure what it’s for but it looks silly so I think I’ll take it off.
I have seen crash bungs mounted in their place, looked appropriate👍
I find the motorcycle magazine are like the car magazine. They're biased what it comes to the more popular vehicles. In the case of the motorcycles it's got to be the latest German version of adventure bike or the greatest sport version from the metric versions before they truly get interested. Clearly they compare all other bikes to these. The issues lie uncle Stu with the fact that we can't in this country test drive new motorcycles, the dealerships here rarely have a test bike from the factory and if they do is not the one you want. So I rely on reviews like yours especially ,to help me make a decision. I know that's you have a passion for Royal Enfield, I'd love to have your opinions and other bike though, your type of reviewing would be very honest and helpful.
It's my favourite RE. Here I go again: if I didn't have a... The only thing I don't like about it is its lack of rev counter. 80 MPH is enough. I very rarely do 80 on my mystery bike. I've even got around my fear of tubed tyres: Bike Seal.
I agree with you about 'professional' bike journalists. I've been blocked by three of these channels. Good.
Good video. You tell 'em, Stu.
I don't miss the rev counter. I've never paid much attention to them anyway, preferring the feel and sound to give me the feedback I need.
@@markellott5620 I don't have one on my SCR950, although I'd prefer one.
I would have considered the scram, to me a very appealing bike. However, I've just put my money down on a Hunter 350. I chose the latter for its compact size, lighter weight, and sharper handling (even at 66 years of age, I'd love an introduction into moto-gymkhana and learn slow bike handling, if only such a thing were offered locally). All my riding is on roads, but I live up a short dirt track, so chose to order some chunky Metzeler Karoo Street tyres (which surprisingly are available in small 17" sizes) to give the bike more of a scrambler vibe. Though I like the looks and the concept of the Scram, the Hunter was love at first sight!
Excellent vid ! I can always count on you for a experienced and sensible evaluation from an experienced rider. I currently own a w899 and at 71 years of age . expected to be my last bike.. However I may be test riding a Scram411 in the future. Thanks again for your information and insight.
Thank you Stuart for well balanced point of view. Some motorcycle journalists have a lot to learn from you. Absolutely spot on about Bennet's i had the exactly same thoughts about them. Keep up the good work. People appreciate your common sense 👍
Perfect, coffee is ready and a new video from England. Liking, then watching, weekend can begin.......Thank you and have a great weekend.
Nice one, uncle Stu. I think a lot of these journalists are not in tune with the actual target audience, not just for Royal Enfield, but generally for every bike out there not designed for the racing track. It almost seems like they take these bikes to Mondello Park and comment how poorly they perform next to a Hayabusa. Image rating a Hayabusa next to a Himalyan going up Angel Steps - no one would take that seriously.
the same goes for gear. What they use and review is often either racing gear, hugely impractical for everyday use, or a carnival hipster costume. Nothing against hipsters but more emphasis on usefulness in real world conditions would be great.
@@Staromil Oh stop - I could rant about boots for hours 😄 I bought a pair of Meindl's 6 years ago as a multi-use solution that would work on the bike as well. Based on reviews I had purchased since then 4 pairs of bike boots that alternately would make you walk like a robot once you come off the bike - were disappointments in terms of being waterproof, or just simply not live past 6 months as zippers and/or clasps gave the ghost. The Meindl's are still in pretty good shape and are my go-to boots now - and keep my feet dry (99% of the time) and protected - I just wished i didn't fall for the boot reviews - I could have spent that money on getting a second pair of Meindl's for the odd instant that my feet did get wet after riding all day though the rain and they need a day to dry out. And yeah - hipsters.. with their hair and beady eyes.. running around all day.. sawdust everywhere... I hate them! Oh sorry, HAMSTERS! I hate hamsters!😁
I’m not a Scram owner, my ride is the GT650, but I find your words applicable to it as well. So often I see forum posts and media articles comparing the bikes features to those of track bikes. If I wanted a track bike I would get one, but I bought a bike to ride on the road, in traffic, I the GT handles that task brilliantly.
Spot on stu! I had the pleasure of test riding one in November & I thought it was a brilliant bike about town,it certainly handled the nightmare traffic in central London & yes the brakes were excellent I also got quite a few admiring looks! At the moment am torn between the Interceptor,classic 350 & Scram! Still saving my pocket money!
Great video
I very nearly bought one after a test ride but I bought a Hunter instead. Based a lot on your reviews. Fits my needs as a commuter and I'm really enjoying it. The Scram would have as well but one bike at a time for me. But I also like the Himalayan but I thought that would have encouraged me to disappear for days at a a time moto camping in the Australian Outback which might upset my partner. Waiting for the Himalayan 450 (or whatever they will call it). Thank you Stuart.
Hi Stu, I so enjoy the scenery on your rides as well as your verbal discourses. I caught a video from a gentleman in California doing a review of the Scram 411. A couple of things caught my attention. First, he was riding along a 55mph road and he took both hands off the handlebar a few times to emphasize a point he was making. He then commented that it was not fast enough to keep up with a 70mph speed limit because all other vehicles travelled at 80+mph. Then, at a stop sign, after filtering, he commented that he could now show how fast it could accelerate and proceeded to wring the throttle to death. I much prefer your down to earth, honest and realistic reviews. Thank you for being you.
Glad I stumbled on this review. I'm looking for a handsome bike to take on a 65mph state highway for a 25 minute commute that can fit my tall build. Many reviews have scared me off by talking down the power, but I keep coming back to it because there's no good alternative for me that I can find that fits my criteria.
This motorcycle looks to be the perfect machine for anyone who enjoys motorcycles. Nothing fancy but capable of doing anything at less than break neck speeds. And it's a great looker too. Food for thought for anyone wanting to make a change motorcycles without leaving the sport.
I owned the scram and enjoyed every minute it actually stands out from the crowd in the red and white. It’s just fun and capable of anything you throw at it, engine and gearbox are smooth . Cons :- the spoke’s corroded even with acf 50, the chain the same problem. This bike is definitely under rated. I’m pleased you have done this video the scram deserves it. You are spot on with this video
I love this review. Where I'm from though in California, you have to be able to drive 75-80 because it's just the flow of traffic even if the law says 65. But aside from that, reviews should be "does this bike accomplish what the manufacturer wants it to do?" In the scrams case, is it a fun, bop around urban bike that is affordable, appealing, stylish with loads of character, individuality and practicality? Yes. Yes it is. But there are people who think all bikes should be 1200cc mountaineers and cross country behemoths and they kind of scoff at the scram, and even the Himalayan and I don't get it. The bikes are obviously beloved.
Ride the Scram in her natural habitat, India, on the urban Streets, dusty coastal roads and cow filled duel carriage high ways. Along with the Himalayan, It's make complete sense....and half the GBP price. The way some UK Roads are maintained nowadays the Scram is future proofed.
I considered the Scram as a new bike and ended up with a second hand Himalayan I’m sure both bikes equally meet my needs of B road riding From a personal perspective riding a bike without a faring above 50 for prolonged periods isn’t enjoyable As that’s the limit on 90% of the roads I ride on that’s not a problem I actually like the “weak front brake If one needs to stop quickly there are two!
Totally agree with you about motorcycle journalists. In 40 years of riding many different types of bike, I’ve never found a review that matched my own experience. I only ever listen to proper riders like yourself!
Another refreshingly down to earth commentary, Stuart, it must be your inner Yorkshireman again!
Thank you for explaining the design purpose behind the Scram. Based on your observations, it's a good fit for my riding needs.
I agree with you completely about the standard of UK motorcycle print and digital journalism. With very few exceptions, they're usually puerile and don't actually test the bike in a manner that informs their audience about how it performs. I'm surprised that the two publications you mention didn't complain they couldn't get a knee down on roundabouts!
Hi Stuart, great video and totally agree on your comments about motorcycle press. One point to note Bennett’s are not an Insurance company they are a broker who effectively act as an intermediary between you and your chosen insurance company. In saying that they should be more responsible in their comments about speed! 🙄
Hello I agree with you most riders are always speeding and breaking hard, and trying to go over the speed limits and not enjoy the ride. 👍
Absolutely agree with you in terms of motorcycle magazines, most have always been biased in many different ways. They never take in to account ‘ordinary’ riders and generally pander to the ‘faster’ (sic) riders. They don’t take into account who the bikes are aimed at. I’ve always been a Moto Guzzi man and always noticed throughout the years, new models will get a decent write up to begin with but very quickly they are dismissed out of hand. Call me cynical but I have always thought it has a lot to do with advertising and pandering to those who give them the most! But it’s probably me? 🙄🤣
Many years ago Honda launched their 650 Deauville. I was writing for Bikenet Magazine at the time, so went on the launch and rode the bike from Chiswick to Lake Vyrnwy for the photo shoot. Of the half dozen or so of us, I was the only one to give it a good review. Like the Royal Enfield line-up of today, this was an everyman bike that was fun to ride, reasonably cheap to run and did everything, but it wasn't 'exciting' so the others panned it. I went out and bought one. Never believe a motorcycle journalist, they know not of which they speak.
Yup....👍, Test ride them yourself and make up your own mind , Sadly not aways possible for some people for various reasons - location / availability etc` , But certainly my preference. 🙂
Thank you for this! I’ve just had the chance to review this and I’ve come away thinking exactly that: it’s an underrated all-rounder. Surprisingly smooth, easy and fun to ride, with plenty of ceiling to go off-road IF you want to.
I bought the scram 411 last year and I still have a smile on my face each time I get on it. The bike is a border-line budget bike however I still think the quality you get for the OTR price is very competitive in todays market. If you want to go Mach 3 buy a sports bike... but if you want pleasurable riding at safe speeds and a bike that can cope with degrading road surfaces that us bikers have to fight with on a daily basis- buy a scram 411; Its a great bike that allows you to enjoy your riding without feeling stressed..
The problem with ride reviews is that the readership is typically international, and appropriate road speeds in one country may not be appropriate in another country.
Here in S. California, I'd be afraid to venture onto the freeway/highway with a motorbike unless it could easily accelerate to 90 mph - not to cruise at that speed,
but to pass "problematic" traffic that may be weaving at 75mph or causing congestion at 75mph. It's a "get-away-from-trouble" acceleration and speed that can
matter a lot here.
Stu, I hate to sound like a sycophant but as far as the Scram goes I have to agree with you, for those who don't know, I ride a modified Himalayan because I enjoy spirited off road riding but I also use it for commuting and long distance touring all of which it thrives on, a while ago I was given the opportunity to test ride a scram for a day and to be honest, coming from the mindset that this was a commuter dressed in a flat trackers clothes, I found it to be a very capable motorcycle well built, quality finish, more than enough grunt for it's intended role, it handled well at highway speeds and I found no issue withe the brakes, of course around the town was where it shone, nimble, quick off the line, light and predictable, it also drew quite a few admirers, if the Scram was released before the Himalayan, I would have bought one, no doubt about it but I do love my Himalayan.
absolutly agree with your account with this great little bike. As in your test on the bike I also found no problem at all with the brakes or the gearbox. I suspect many riders think you must go as fast as you can, and therefore do not enjoy the ride. I have made my scram a touring bike for which it is well suited. keep up the great reviews and Thank you.
Couldn´t agree more on this review...absolutely spot on. Thank you very much, Sir. I own this bike for quiet a while, and it´s fantastic for all the things I want it to be for. Living in the countrified northern part of Germany, there is sometimes a lack of fun riding my Speed Triple around the typical bumpy back roads. Commuting can be uncomfortable and she is always thirsty. The Scram is much more enjoyable in both belongings, plus the fact I´m now able to ride some dirt tracks to get out in the green and being far away from daily routines. I love this bike for being a real fellow and having a unique face standing out of the crowd. Regarding to the brakes, they will do their job. Weak brakes had been an issue with some Himalayans, but they fixed this regarding to the Scram und you can get better Pads for the Himalayan too. Sure, when I press the anchor on my Triumph, that´s a different kind of feel, but it´s a different kind of bike, money and riding.
I think another reason the Scram is underrated is that it was realeased about the same time as the Hunter 350 and was given less attention by the press.
Hi Stuart great vid as usual, I own three bikes, a scram, a classic 500 and a Honda cb 1000r.the scram is my favorite of them all and my go to bike, the classic is used on guaranteed dry days. The Honda is a licence looser and uncomfortable. I've found the scram does everything I want, brakes are good if driven sensibly, has enough oomph for the real world. My scram has the tec cam, 16 tooth front sprocket and a delkevick road legal can on. The way things are now even here in Scotland the speed limits are coming down, so make a large capacity motorcycle almost pointless. Keep up the good work Stu
Hey Douglas , I am a scram owner and can I ask if you think a standard scram with standard cam would benefit from a 16 tooth sprocket ? Cheers ma
@@mickyboy4964 hi thanks for the reply.i don't think it's worth fitting the sprocket on its own.fitting the sprocket to the bike lowers the revs by about 300 rpm ,but you'll find that you will have to drop a cog a bit more often .The only reason I fitted the sixteen tooth sprocket is because my bike has a bit more oomph,doesn't make a difference to top speed tho.
Well said and once again a great video Stuart,I really like the scram 411,always see the scram as a stunning bike when I see them at bike meets,if I had the space for a second bike wouldn’t hesitate to buy one.
Thanks Stuart !! I owe the one !! Really nice bike with relevancy both off road and commuting purpose
I love my REscram 411
Sadly, I'm recovering from a crash from a week ago (someone decided a Stop sign didn't apply to them), so I won't be back on my feet for a few months, and not riding again for a few more, but at least those things *will* happen.
Back to your subject: most moto-media ceased to be of interest to me eons ago, given its obsession with knife's-edge speed over everything else. What fun it's been, then, watching a company like Royal Enfield grab the usual suspects' lunch money with the message that you *don't* need to go bloody-fast to have fun (let alone stuff like commuting and grocery-getting), and, better-still, don't need to blow a fortune to buy a bike that truly suits you. Sadly, here in the Land of the Fleeced, we're compelled via marketing to purchase vehicles, whether on two wheels or four, based more on a fantasy, fun-house mirror image of ourselves than anything resembling our true needs and wants. When I'm able and ready, I'll be getting myself the same 300cc Vespa GTS I had this time around (Sadly replacing a GTS that suffered a similar fate). Fast enough, practical enough, crazy-fun enough, and apparently safe enough in a crash that, in spite of my having more-serious injuries this time round, I'm still intact enough to type this out to you. Keep up the great work, Stu.
Brilliant video as always Stuart and I love the Himalayan and the scram was a logical next step in its evolution 🙂👍🏻
When the Scram hit the market i thought theyd fly out of the showrooms. I own a Himalayan and love it. I use it for light of roading and touring which its great for, the surprise for me was what a good and fun road bike it is. Then the Scram arrived, a slightly more road focused (arguably prettier) Himalayan, brilliant. What i think may have happened is the Himalayan and the Scram now share sales rather than the Scram adding too. Then theres the other bikes in the RE showroom, the Hunter, Meteor and Classic, all bikes that, lets be honest, are better put together than the Himalayan based bikes.
Stu, I got the impression that the SCRAM 411 was an urban focused variant of the Himalayan that could do some mild off-roading, say on a fire road. Here in the US, our state and national forests have wide dirt roads running through them; these fire roads allow the fire services to get to a fire and put it out-hance the name, fire roads. I certainly wouldn't take the SCRAM on anything more challenging than some double track. But yeah, if one needs a road biased machine that can handle rough pavement and hit a fire road occasionally, the SCRAM would be the ticket. The SCRAM would also allow one to ride to a campground, then ride on to the campground's dirt trails to the campsites.
As for motorcycle magazines and journalists here in the US, I've ignored both for years. Why? Because they focus on high tech, expensive motorcycles that I'd never be able to afford; even if I could afford them, spending the same as I would to buy a car offends my sensibilities. Sure, BMWs, Ducatis, Aprilias, and so on are two wheeled works of art, but how are those reviews to regular riders who cannot or do not want to spend $20K-$30K, or more, on a bike? The US motorcycle press ignores bikes that are relevant and affordable for the average rider.
Concerning the remarks about brakes, what do these journalists do, compare them the sportbike brakes? If so, then ANY other bike's brakes will come up short! On a 200 hp bike capable of 0-100 kmh in 3 seconds, yeah, you'll need a pair of 320 mm, pizza pan sized brake disks up front. For any other type of bike though, they're overkill. While I can't speak to the SCRAM's brakes, I know that the ones on my Meteor 350 do the job just fine.
Oh, and lest I forget, Royal Enfield has done a DYNAMITE job of setting up the ABS! How do I know? I had to test my Meteor's ABS for real about a year ago. I went on a long afternoon ride on a relatively warm day in March; I rode too long, got tired, and my reaction times declined as a result. On my way back, I was a little slow to brake for a car slowing down in front of me. I hit the brakes hard, and all that happened was there was a hint of a chirp from the back wheel. THAT'S IT! It was only after the situation was over that I realized that I'd activated the ABS. RE set up the ABS perfectly for my Meteor. If they did the same with the SCRAM's ABS, then even a ham handed operator wouldn't notice its activation. IOW, I think that reviewer is full of you know what.
Sorry for rambling again, but I remember things to say as I write these comments. Those are my thoughts.
A modest paint scheme option may help sales.
It comes in grey. How more modest could that be? Look up the range
I absolutely love my Scram !!
Had it since May last year!
I enjoy every moment riding it!!
I was going to swap it for an interceptor, but I don’t think I can bear to part with it!!
I feel so at one with it, it’s a total riding experience for me!! 👌😊
Absolutely amazing that some people think the Scram is a dedicated off-roader !
Even the Himalayan is OBVIOUSLY NOT a dedicated off-roader !!!
I like my bikes to be practical so I am not impressed with the lack of a centrestand.
Apart from that the Scram is another fantastic bike from RE IMHO.
Im owner of the scram 411 for 4 months here is what i can say,
-Regarding the brakes it not that its bad, its mushy according a reviewer i follow i understand what he meant but for me it is fine for my day to day riding.
-in Malaysia(where im from) i wouldnt say this is a beginner bike as the bike is sort of tall and heavy to go around really heavy traffic in urban areas as every one else zips by with moped and scooters so i took me about 2 months to get use to it i but im getting the hang of it.
- No problems riding in faster interstate roads, usually maintain about 50-60mph
-tyres have good and bad, like any big city certain road sections will be bad the scram takes it in stride. But if it rains even at moderate speeds you really need to be careful it really likes to skip at the slight chance of an uneven road in the rain.
But i do like my scram future plans are doing a tubeless conversion at putting more road oriented tyres as it rains half the year here
I took a scram out whilst my interceptor was in for its service. I found it to be a perfectly suitable bike for riding around towns and had enough power when getting more of a move on on the country roads. In honesty the power of the breaks during my ride never entered my head which makes me think they are perfectly well calibrated. My main surprise came from it's low speed torque, I found it picked eagerly and took me by surprise with it's pull.
Hi Stuart I agree with all you say. I took the Scram out for a test ride from JW Groombridges in East Sussex. My friend took the Himalayan. I love the Scram from the moment I got on it. However I was somewhat disappointed with the Himalayan which sadden me as I really was looking forward to riding it after reading so much about it. For me the Scram was the better bike. I ride a BMW K1300s. I will try the Himalayan again as I’m sure I needed more time with it. Great video thanks for your time and effort to put these out.
I just returned from riding a Himalayan in India, and was tempted to buy one, but now I'm leaning towards the Scram. But I like the Classic 350 military, too!
Purchased my Scram about 6 weeks after buy the Interceptor. Absolutely love it! Still running the bike in at just over 600 miles so still limited to 50 mph, so I use it mainly for commuting and some slower country roads. Gearbox is buttery smooth and better than my Interceptor. Ride is impeccable. My only minor complaint is seat comfort. The seat tends to push the rider forward and puts more pressure on the tailbone area. Would love to put a Himalayan style seat on it that is more level. Other than that, I absolutely love this bike and would recommend it to anyone, especially newer riders.
Good re-review Stu!
I hear the voice of motorcycle magazine reviews in a lot of people's comments when they talk about motorcycles. "They say that..." And other rehashing of nonsense that the press sometimes throws out there as fact. Good debunking of the negative Nancie's.
It's a utility bike with a bit more style, a nice all rounder. Bike fashions come and go, the fashion to categorise will fade. If you look at Hondas in the seventies, most bikes were all rounders. 400/4 for instance was nippy, but you could use it every day. I think Indian buyers want that versatility and Enfield have said the Indian Market will always lead them. That's fair enough. I think if bikes are going to survive as a popular form of transport, they need to become cheaper, reliable and easy to make your own. I think that's Enfield. The good thing about the Scram is that it's a variant, so it's a minimal investment for Enfield, so trickle sails won't harm them financially. Compared to the new Honda 500 faux scrambler it's built like a tank and I'd go for the Scram. Plain colours like the Meteor would do well, Matt black or Olive drab would look great.
Another great video Stuart, full of common sense . particularly your comments about braking. I dont have a Scram, I ride a meteor with I believe similar braking system, and find the brakes more than adequate and very reassuring. Braking on a bike is all about reading the road ahead and doing nothing,except perhaps an emergency stop in a hurry, but then if you're looking ahead ,emergency stops
should be few and far between. I also ride a Matchless,with 1950 drum brakes, which often get slated as poor by today's standards,which indeed they probably are, but they're great for teaching you about anticipation and effective braking. Perhaps everyone should try one😂
I have a Scram 411 and I love it. This is bike number 5 for me. I had a KLR650 Honda PC 800 and a Versa 650. I’m in my mid sixties and I was looking for an easy bike to ride and take me anywhere I want. I have riden it on highways , backroads and gravel roads. It does all that with ease. People seem to be about how fast it will it go. I have learned that going fast as you can is not neccessarly a good ideal. This from seeing deer (west Tennessee has big ones) dogs, cats, turkeys, buzzards and things unexpected around the curve like a car on your side of the road. Slow down enjoy the scenery and the bike and arrive home in one piece.
Hoy Stuart, another honest video, I bought mine A month ago and I love it, it's the perfect bike for the roads here in the Philippines.
I had a Scram on loan for a couple of days when my continental was in for a service and I really enjoyed riding it. Road it on all types of roads town, country and motorways, on motorways at commuting speeds it easily keeps up, and it was exactly as I expected and as you described, its a great bike. I think it’s problem is competition from other bikes in the RE range. You do make me chuckle with your opinion of “journalists” 😂😂
When I was a teenager I used to ride lots of different bikes usually my mates bikes and they were in a less than perfect condition but I would ride them how they needed to be ridden I have loved motorbikes ever since. You don't blame the bike for shortcomings you just ride appropriately.
Bought my Scram back in January. I've absolutely loved owning it, the bike is a little champ! I downgraded from an MT-07(it was stolen) and I['m really not sad about it. This bike is comfortable on the interstate/pkways, really happy on highways and a gem in the city. I love that its a slow bike because its fun to use the whole power available in the machine, its a really hands on experience and you really get to use the whole bike. I am looking forward to putting a lot of miles on it over the summer!
Thank you for your thoughts, Stuart!
What a pity there aren't any Scram vs Hunter videos. Because they are the obvious direct competitors albeit from the same stables! (and in total sales the Hunter wins the race by a whole lot, although that's probably because it's way cheaper at the home market)
I'm interested in both and...
I'm drawn towards the Hunter because of the alloy tubeless wheels, better mileage and a little simpler engine...and the 70's styling. BUT
Scram sure is good looking, with comfy upright position, with a touch extra umph and I like the rear suspension.
The much touted Scram and Himalayan 450 might give these bikes some separation and make them more relevant?
@@PhilipBallGarry yup, exactly my thoughts.
Nevertheless I'm definitely aiming for a smaller, simpler engine, as I want to replace my 125cc Aprilia scooter this spring. And I don't fancy large bikes, even though I do have the license and all. The J platform is ideal for me, still the scram is extremely tempting.
I think just like with my guitars: one is not enough 🤭
@@Staromil Like bikes, I've had many guitars over the years. Every time thinking the next one might turn me into a virtuoso (still talking about guitars here 😉). After forty plus years, my repertoire consists of "House of the Rising Sun" - and... That's it, nothing else 😂🤣
@@PhilipBallGarry I was lucky enough, my dad plays jazz, my brother is a music teacher and as a punk, I met bunch of other guys, we started playing..mostly wild jazz on streets and twenty years later, somehow we still play together. Music is a social thing!
Morning, thanks for another interesting video. Ride safe and enjoy the warmer weather.
I like it except for the way the exhaust pipes change color. As far as the brakes I was thinking of the first Honda I had when I was a teenager. It had drum brakes and I never noticed brakes not being effective. People are just too spoiled these days with technology. Disc brakes and ABS I am sure the brakes are fine.
They’re actually still extremely handy off road. The smaller front wheel hasn’t limited its ability too much and there’s plenty of videos of folk green laning on them. Lovely bike but I find the looks a bit challenging.
Brilliant Stuart!No nonsense say it how it is.Cutting through the B-------ks!I don't own a 'RE but let's face it ,They have become a force to be reckoned with and good luck to them!Like you ,I stopped buying bike publications years ago you see,I don't wheelie or do a ton 20 down the local dual carriageway ,I do believe however,there is a snobbery in biking these days that's not at all nice,Once again,keep saying it as it is mate,it's so refreshing to hear!
Great video. I wonder if RE had shaved 11cc off the engine to make it into the UK £47 tax bracket, would have helped its popularity?
Great video. Some really sensible observations.
I own an Interceptor and absolutely love it. I borrowed a Scram while mine was in for service. I thought the Scram was excellent. Really smooth and comfortable. I only rode around town and probably wouldn't ride it long distance. I would definitely consider one as a commuter. And with a few tweets I would go off road with it. It's not my cup of tea styling wise . I spoke to a young lad in a petrol station who had just passed his test. I recommended the scram as a first bike. Ideal.
I have only ridden a Scram for about 30 miles, while my Interceptor was being serviced, and I'm not sure it would be for me, but I can see that it would fit a great number of people, though they would need to be a little taller than I am. That was my only criticism as such, being a bit of a short-arse. The Interceptor is at my comfortable height limit. By the way, your videos had a great deal to do with my purchase, along with the fact that a friend of mine had traded his Triumph in against one, and is absolutely delighted with it, as am I.
to me it is what we used to call a motard and we had to build them using a street bike as a basis. lovely now we have one ready made to a better standard, looks great to me, if I had the money I'd buy one thanks for your usual good work
Love the look of the enfield scram 411 , also like some of the other models, I had some 40 yrs + ago a honda cb125 single and loved that bike . I did thousands of mile on that bike drum brakes never had an issue, cracking vid again Stuart
Thanks for another good vid Stu, I think the scram would be perfect to cope with the farm tracks our councils in Nottinghamshire call roads.
The scram is such a no-nonsense motorcycle. I bought for weekend rides and some basic exploring, but it's such a damn good commuter that I've ended up using it to even pop-by local shops nowadays. Absolutely addicted to it.
The music is horrible and annoying but the Scram is delightful 😁👍
Great review and it is refreshing to hear a reviewer putting perspective on typical bike journalists reviews. I have mostly taken with a large pinch of salt.
The Royal Enfield Scram 411 is a bike that would be very good to use here in Värmland, Sweden. There are not as many asphalt roads here as in England or Germany. There are many connecting roads between the main roads and the small hamlets, villages here that are gravel or sand roads. Often old country roads that have little traffic. There are also only a few small towns in this part of Sweden, on the Norwegian border, and only a handful of larger ones, Karlstad for example, which is as big as Winchester, Hampshire in England. Many of these dirt roads require good suspension and, because you can't go fast, a powerful engine and tyres with a coarser tread. The bike should not be too heavy. It doesn't need a lot of engine power either. 20-30 hp is fine. On the other hand, the paved back roads here and also in neighbouring Norway are fun to ride. They are winding and do not allow for high speeds, especially since the maximum speed is 70-90 km/h. Even the major, very straight trunk roads may only be driven at a maximum of 90 km/h. The large tank of the Scram 411, on the other hand, would be very good because there are not so many petrol stations. Many are also only vending machines Greeting, Sven
@@j4457 Yes, I now own a Royal Enfield Himalayan 411, but I decided to go with the Himalayan because I am going to buy a Royal Enfield Hunter 350 as a street bike in August.
once again Stuart a no nonsence informative insite into a really good bike, i totaly agree with you about certain journalists stroking their own ego's when it comes to reviews, they seem more interested in taking a bike around a track and popping wheelies istead of riding a bike for its intended purpose.
Well then just recently took a Scram 411 demo bike for a test ride as i really liked the look of it and unfortunately thought its performance was as dull as dishwater . If it had an extra 10bhp and a bit less weight then i think it would of one me over , never mind purchased a new interceptor 650 instead and that's ace . Great reviews Stu as normal
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I have been using my Himalayan since 4 years now and I just find it very smooth compared to other bikes with comparable engines like the KTM 390 it's other version Bajaj Dominar. The gear too is very nice and it just clicks where you want it provided you take care of the bike especially finding neutral is sooo easy in traffic. The brakes aren't amazing but not bad just change the brake pads to sintered ones used in conti gt as they use same calipers and it works amazing
I’m 71 years of age and I am looking for a bike that will take me back to my riding roots - a single cylinder motorcycle. Through my 57 years of two wheeling I’ve had a few bikes but my heart has always belonged to a “thumper.” Now I find myself looking to sell my Bonneville and likely end my riding days with a single. The Royal Enfield Scram 411 and Hunter 350 are the two I am most drawn to with the 411 likely to be the winner. Thank you for an honest review of a bike that, like my Suzuki DL 650, looks like a dirt bike but is not. Rather, to my mind, they are street focused machines with minor off road capabilities. Again thank you for reaffirming my thoughts. Cheers.
When a car wrote off my 390 Duke commuter in August 22, I looked at a Scram, but preferred everything about the Duke, apart from the price - so I bought another Duke, mainly as I do a fair bit of M roads and the Duke's coped better I felt even after your other video - they can both do it but the Duke felt better for me (also lighter in town). Even the Duke is a true single, and has an unlovely gearbox so the Scram matches or betters it there.
Hi Stuart 👋, I like the idea of a single cylinder bike , less to do on maintenance cheaper to run ,
I had a mate used to travel to Edinburgh University on a 250cc twin Villiers engined bike in the mid 60s and never had any issues with it he used it for 3 years , one of my sons rides a Yamaha R1 lovely machine has everything on it , anti skid , and all that goes with these bikes , but he's paying the price , I ride a 35 year old B M W does everything you need , but I think smaller capacity machines are more fun for everyday practical use , I've had allsorts of machines over the years , Agree with everything you've mentioned, and road safety is as much fun because you are doing things properly gives you a sense of satisfaction, I used to be a motorcycle Instructor 🏍 so road safety was paramount, stay safe everyone don't give insurance companies any excuse not to pay out in the unfortunate event of a mishap.
Love the look of the Scram especially the Red & White colour scheme...
We are fairly new RE owners (We have 2 of the 350cc Meteor's).
Absolutely fell in love with RE & I'm used to riding 1100cc Moto Guzzi's