Types of Oak and Their Differences
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Very nice video, expert camera work and narrative. Thanks, 😊
Decades ago, Roy Underhill, on his PBS show, The Woodwright's Shop (?) Stood on a stool and put a 6' (+or-) staff of White Oak to his mouth and blew bubbles in the bucket of water that the staff was standing in, to illustrate why it is easy to steam bend, but Red Oak, with it's closed grain is near impossible to steam bend
I used to love that show! Is it still on?
Roy Underhill is cool. Woodwright shop was neat
I don't understand why people can't come to grips with the idea that there are lots of types of white oak, rock oak (chestnut oak) very much included. The oak family is one of the things that got me interested in botany as a kid and I still love them today after many decades working with all sorts of plants.
@Wylie Wildt Indeed.
I like botany as well. It's just tough that it's rare to be able to make a living as a botanist.
Could save your life if you are ever stranded on Mars.
Not everyone is a dendrologist.
Yes, there is a red oak group and a white oak group. I believe not only most, but all oaks are in one group or the other. The quickest way to determine which group you are working with, assuming you have leaves, Is that the margins or lobes of red oak leaves are sharp or pointed. Margins or lobes of leaves in the white oak group are smooth or rounded. Also, within the white oak group is a single species known as white oak (Quercus alba). In the red oak group, we have single species of southern red oak and northern red oak (In addition to black oak, scarlet oak, and many others). I was going to question Emerald, on even the existence of a rock oak, but realized it is just a localized common name of what is more widely known as chestnut oak. This raises another important point. There is nothing wrong with referring to trees by their common names in daily practice, even though commonly, there may be different common names for a single species, especially in different parts of the country (or world). When necessary, we avoid potential miscommunication by referring to trees using international standards of taxonomy (classification of plants). Thus, if Emerald and I were talking (I wish!) and she referred to rock oak, which I never heard, she could say, “You know, Quercus prinus.”
“Oh, you mean chestnut oak-sure.” Because anywhere and everywhere it is that, but rock and chestnut (and a couple of other common names) vary among people.
What's the difference between an oak tree and a tight shoe?
One makes acorns, the other makes corns ache.
I assume you’re a dad? Lol 👍🏼
Over the years I have found that there is a considerable difference between white oak and red oak when used as threads for stairs The white oak is better. For things like built-in bookshelves red oak seems to work better.
A suggestion. Later in the year some of your subscribers might find it interesting if you could show a comparison between the leaves and acorns of the various species of oak.
White oak will flex better in time cause it is stringy compared to red oak.
134 thousand subscribers outstanding Thanks for all the wonderful information
I was going to ask for some pix of the finished floors but decided to just look for myself. It took less than 2 seconds to find many pictures of their work.. Holy crap,, they ain't your average flooring company.. They turn that beautiful white oak into masterpieces.... It's well worth a quick google if anyone is interested in seeing the finished products....
I am glad that you noticed, we are also very impressed with their high-quality flooring!
Storybook is one of the best flooring companies in the northeast.
@@KenBreon Funny, Em has mentioned them a few times and I never gave any thought to their name until I saw the pic of the dark Herringbone they showcased. It was like a light went on and the name "Storybook" was a perfect match with the old school craftsmanship.. Also cool is the fact that the Oak goes from the Forest to the Floor with no middleman. Very impressive start to finish...
I built our kitchen table about 20 years ago with alternating white and red oak boards for the top. The contrast is subtle but has always been interesting and durable. Certainly it will outlive me. 😊
That’s cool.
I wish I was 20 years younger! You are to die for Em!!!
Love it when you get into the different species of trees and their distinct characteristics Emerald! You're a great teacher and very knowledgeable in your family craft. Great job to Jade also. :-)
Wonderful information on the different types of Oak Emerald. Where I used to live in South Carolina was filled with scrub oaks, they are probably the same size now as they were when I was little. Thanks to the camera lady also! Keep up the great work and have a great evening! TTFN
Hello Emerald from Sydney Australia. If at all possible I use the trees leaf to identify. Softwoods a needle Hardwoods a broadleaf.
Then there's sawn timber and dressed.
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We learn something new every day from you EM--thanks for all the info !!!
I’m becoming an expert in lumber thanks to you. Have you all ever thought about finishing some of the products? There has to be a market for that.
It's really impressive how hard you guys are working on these.
My mind is like a sponge around you guys..great job..
I'm visiting family in the Mt hood area of oregon. Showing my little brother these videos you all do. Always very informative and fun to watch.
Hello from the west coast.
Just discovered your channel.
Great work.
A career in lumber, buying, selling hardwoods of all kinds domestic and imports, and then a career in small sawmill operations in the “urban forest “.
(Pacific Coast lumber). Sold it all and now I play disc golf.
You guys are awesome, again great job taking it to a very commercial level with your abundant stands of hardwoods!
I always heard that all the oldest wood boats were made of white oak because of bug and rot resistance, along with trunnels of locust or “hedge”.
Have you guys had fun explaining quarter sawn, rift sawn, and vertical grain yet?
Always a fun discussion.
Good stuff don’t stop.👍👍
You do an excellent job explaining….very professional
Thanks for the informative video, I had no idea that there are so many species of oak, good camera work Jade thanks
Great job Em! Great camera work Jade! Look forward to your vids every night. Thumbs up everyone! 👍👍👍
Excellent again. Emerald you are getting more and more polished!
I'm glad you have reverted to introducing your videos by saying the full name of your company - I like how you pronounce the r in "Lumber" and "Yard".
Very nice comparison, Em, In Charlotte we have a lot of Willow Oaks with very thin hard to deal with leaves. You have sparked my interest, I will check out their family.
it's a very intersting and informative video. please, make more about different wood-types on your mill. thank you so much for it and many greetings from northern germany
Great video! Yes, here in the California foothills, we have quite a variety of oaks, too.
Also, thanks for saying the full "Lumber Capital Log Yard" in the intro! Don't know why, I just prefer it!
That thumbnail is pretty cool. A lady of many talents.
Thank you for showing rock oak. I had no idea. I operated and maintained a water powered gristmill and sawmill as a retirement job. I used white oak outside for the water wheel and shafts. I used red oak inside because it is string and beautiful. Gears and pins were made from hard maple.
Thanks for the info! I recently did a video about the differences in Oak too. A tree growing in our forest that I’ve always called Pinoak, is actually swamp oak (part of the white oak family).
Here where I live we have white,red,moss,blackjack and what we call post oak. Post oak doesn't get much bigger than 4 or 5 inches diameter and grows straight up with very few low limbs. They are all quite common and are rock hard great for construction and firewood. A superb job today ladies thank you.👍♥️♥️
Interesting - on our western Ozarks farm, the post oaks can be pretty impressively large. Often no limbs below 20-25’, like yours, but lots >24”.
@@johnsadler8637 well granted it may be because they are in what we call sand roughs or shinnery usually they only grow about 2 or 3 feet apart and go for miles like that I am southeast of Abilene Texas
@@johnsadler8637...Same here, western Ouachita Mountain Range!
@@arkansas1336 maybe 150-ish miles south of our farm.
I recognize my oak trees by the acorns that the deer like we have one in the South called a Water oak which puts out very small acorns that turkeys like 🐝
Scarlet oak tends toward the red,, vs salmon colour of red oak,, AND scarlet oak can be some of the straightest grains, clearest planks of oak you have ever seen. Beautiful stuff. Just as pin oak and black oak,, on the white oak side of the discussion can be some very gnarly grains,, and even very twisty boards. Pin oak exposed to too much sun can bend into curves and shapes you'd not believe.
This is a different subject but can you in another video talk about "flame maple" and "quilted maple"? I love how some guitars are made of this highly figured wood. Would like to learn more about them. Thanks!
Hey Emily, have you ever heard of "Organic Beer Fed Oak Trees"? They have hop shaped grain patterns and smell like beer when cut. Only found I Canada eh! Carter... Canada
Very informative and makes me want to get out and build some oak furniture.
White oak much more beautiful but also much harder to work.
Red oak is fairly soft in comparison but it's pretty orange-y. You have to kill that in the finishing.
Nothing beats a piece of white oak furniture with a bit of oil and wax.
Great education. Thank You!
Emerald showing how she ‘splits’ logs!
thats some good info.i have a big burr oak in my yard with about 30 feet of straight 4ft. diameter trunk.i have been saying it would make a good deck and roof over the deck
You should do an episode on locust. As rot resistant as a mummy and harder than Chinese math. They have been used as support posts in house construction for hundreds of years.
Not as rot resistant as people claim…especially in a warm wet climate. I’ve experienced this firsthand.
Want to see sparks fly from a chain saw at night? Just cut a dry piece of this. Lol
Great video girls
We have English oak here beautiful wood, I used for Heritage jobs primarily
Keep up the amazing work
Hopefully you will get some white oak or hickory logs in the mill yard some day that is "shag bark". Please give us a critique about that.
In my area I've only seen shag bark hickory but never a shag bark white oak (I know both are very rare but they do exist in the south).
Emerald Wolf wood splitter. 🤣 You guys rock!
Always wondered why a single one oak would be in the middle of a field. It was explained that they left it, for a shade to eat lunch under. The main crop of here of the past was cotton.
Oakley dokley, thanks for the education…you should name your own exclusive oak and advertise it roadside as “Love Oak”!!!
❤🌹all types of construction too, great to know how to use those types of oaks, THANK YOU!
On identifying white oak and red oak by its bark. The bark of a white oak/red oak from Texas has a different look than oaks from Indiana, Iowa or Missouri. It seems to be caused by the different temperature environment. So the lesson here is get to know the Oaks in your area because their bark will look different in other areas of the country. Also remember that the MAIN identification of a tree is its leaf, not its bark. Bark is secondary but sometimes the only thing you have if the tree has been harvested.
The difference can also be difference just from different minerals in the ground.
Pin oak, water oak & willow oak are everywhere here in the mid lands of SC. I’ve got a bunch to mill up.
The best looking lumberjack family I've ever seen , where's mom ?
Unbelviable how much content you deliver every Day!
This very interesting did not know they are a different I very inportend and impressed with this in info thank you for this you some woman thanks
Good Job Emerald and Jade
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One of my favorite kinds of white oak is the post oak whose reign ended when I moved to the Midwest and discovered the burr oak.
Would have guessed more like a dozen. 300 varieties is surprising.
We have a couple of bur oak trees here in TX, not quite the size to cut, as landscaping trees in our yard. Tough and bug-resistant trees.
Red Oak sold for more money than the rest in board .
White Oak ( smooth bark) is not the same as Rock Oak ( very deep ruff bark) in many ways , the bark for one and how it splits , Rock Oak splits well and will burn in a camp fire green , and how it breaks under load ( White Oak will bend a lot before breaking ) and White Oak is very rot resistant .
Many differences in the Oaks and many things similar, each has some special things about them .
Have you have ever split the different Oaks by hand , and burned them green and used them for different things ?
Rock Oak will burn green in a camp fire , Red Oak will not very well .
Dead standing Rock Oak will be dry and Dead standing Red Oak will be wetter than when it was alive .
Ask some of the old timers about the Oaks before they are all gone , much knowledge to be had about many things .
Keep up the good work and keep the saw dust flying .
The genus Quercus contains about 500 known species, plus about 180 hybrids between them.
She mentions "rock oak" which probably refers to Quercus montana, usually called chestnut oak.
You have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing it.
I’ve always liked white oak. They say the acorns are sweeter and the deer like them better.
Good work and looking lovely
Good info. Who knew so many. Red and White are the ones I know. Can you do a side-by-side of all the types? Do you have them in the yard? Thanks for sharing
I think this video has set a new record for the most use of the word "oak" in a 6 minute time period.
I do know that Oak makes great wine and whisky barrels. Also furniture.
welcome back to LCLY
Great information.... Thank You...
Nice video, as a boatbuilder, we use white oak frequently but never red oak. Red oak is very porous between the annual rings and thus subject to rot and other issues. An easy test between red and white oak is to put small short blocks of each end grain down into some dna. The red oak immediately sucks in the alcohol through the block, where white oak doesn't.
awesome company representative
love the vid can you do a different style to you hair other than mop, bigger the hair bigger the star.
Now I need to go out in my woods and see what I actually have - thanks for the info.
As always...a very informed vid!!! Thanks....👍🐺🧙♂️🦊👍
i didnt know there were so many kinds of oak! Splash some water on those boards for us the grain will be way more visible
Great video. What class would a Pin Oak be under, Red or White?
in minnesota white is used for fire wood or flat bead trailerts
Nice to see you 🙂
Smart, beautiful, redhead and flexible holly cow
Do some videos on things other than wood
Were you really doing a full split on the intro pic? Or, photo shop?
Your videos are always so interesting. Keep them coming........👍👍👍
Another popular oak, especially among forest landowners and sportsmen is the sawtooth oak (Quercus acutissima). They are often planted for wildlife habitat because of their rapid growth and mast production at relatively young ages. I have grown many, starting in 1971. They performed true to their reputation. Sawtooth oaks are native to Asia, not North America, but do well here. I’m not familiar with sawtooth oak wood properties for lumber since all the ones in my experience were planted either just as ornamentals or to benefit wildlife. As you might expect from the name, the leaves have finely serrated edges much like saw teeth. I suspect the species name “acutissima” arose from the acute angles of those saw-like teeth on the leaf margins.
The state I worked for been up in the air about planting saw tooth oaks. The game lands went ahead cause wildlife benefit but the state forests they been on the bench to allow planting of this tree in state forest cause not native species.
Very very interesting.
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I thought this channel was from Oregon or similar states out west. Pretty cool it's from maybe 100 miles from where I live in PA and I'm the DuBois area.
this is what we want but more visuals and every fact. it's not boring. show us details in grain etc,
Oak is great stuff. I like the reds better.
We have black oak and white oak here in southern Oregon
I love and enjoy your videos. You know your product. You know your equipment. You work. And you are a girl. Youre not a man pretending to be a girl
As is the main stream. This world is going to hell in a loader bucket.
Beautiful young girls running a local lumbar yard, SWEET!
300 dude i did not know that .......cool enjoy🌳
Hey Emerald,
Now that thumbnail…
I measure with my hand..known 8”
Are you measuring?
Is that a known distance?
7 feet I’d estimate 😂!
Mark that log!
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Hope Boss Man is ok. Haven't seen much of him recently.
Yesterday's short film shows the Boss Man in full action.
@@ernestospadolesto8126 Cheers, I don't get shorts on my phone as notifications. I'll have a watch.
Buongiorno! 🤗
When we buy standing timber in Ohio, we have white oak and red oak.
Red oak has black oak and pin oak under the same flag.
What is live oak classified under
im in otsego county , ny i have a 100 acres of a really big barck oak ,,, i mean the bark comes out an inch ???
this is more of a question for Emerald or Jade. in this video about 7 - 9 seconds into the video, on Emerald's left side, there seemed to be a puffs of smoke. it starts on the upper corner of the shelf, grows and flows behind Emerald. Any idea of what it may be?
We had the kiln going that day
OK. knowing PA wars, wasn't sure if it was a spirit
The big difference between white oak, Quercia alba and all the other oaks, despite being red or black or white by name is this. Q alba has closed tubules. All the other oaks are open. Even if they are called “‘white oak”. Only alba is used for cooperage. The vast majority of barrels are used for distilled spirits. Bourbon is aged in white oak casks. White is the only oak that will not leak through the grain.
All the other differences are cosmetic.
That split looked like it might hurt. 😬😬
Grazie Grazie ...
Red Oak, Slightly Red Oak, Pale Red Oak, Okay Oak, Annie Oakly Oak, Up in Smoke Oak, Soak in the Tub Oak, This is a Joke Oak, etc.
I'd have never guessed there was so many types of Oak
we do not have instagram!!
Nice splits 🪵