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Thank you for including amo. I've enjoyed much of BMTH's work, including the Post Human: Survival Horror EP, but I have no use for amo. If I had to pick a band that I used to like and switched up their sound for the worse, I would say Finger Eleven. They were never amazing, but they were surprisingly good for a nu metal and, and then they made money off of "One Thing" and swerved hard into electronic radio rock. Sigh. One more note: as a longtime solider in the MCRmy, I actually love Danger Days. A lot of the lyrics are darker than most people realize; the whole album is a testament to how much MCR loves the Lyrical Dissonance trope, and I think it works.
@@RockedNet where do you get all those corey taylor photos id love to have one om a die hard fan of slipknots corey taylor i love seeing him in any masks he wears hes my favorite singer what do you think about mushroomead latest album a wonderful life do you love it or hate it which album was better the end so far or a wonderful life
@@Linkin_Swift hey man linkin park trys new stuff dont hate tthe band i love for lots of reasons they got hated for making minutes to midnight and yes i love that album so dont mention one more light look at minutes to midnight it has songs that would sound like they would appear on one more light
First one that comes to mind is Megadeth's "Risk" from 1999. I was actually depressed for days because I was so excited for a new Megadeth album, then...this. I actually halfway as a joke took the CD back to the store, and when they said they could only take it back if it was defective, I said "It IS defective. It sucks." 🤣
Agreed. Almost as bad as my reaction to St. Anger. I hadn't heard any of it when I bought it. I opened it immediately at the mall and popped it in my walkman... almost tossed it in the trash at that very moment 😭
Johnathon Davis has actually gone on record MANY times saying that he loves electronic music from Industrial to Trance and House, and when Dubstep came out, it blew him away. PoT was less about Korn chasing the trend and more JD getting to finally be part of a culture he had cherished for such a long time, making music in a genre he always wanted to play around with. Even after PoT, JD has made sure to implement a bunch of electronic elements in their later albums, including on tracks like Never Never, Black is the Soul, and Worst is On Its Way. PoT may have been a commercial failure, but it is FAR from something JD regrets, and honestly, I'm happy for the guy that he could have that experience and still go on to make awesome albums with the crew.
I hated the inclusion of that sound in Korn. But if they love it, then more power and respect for them going there. I still think bands should release music like this under a different name or something. But thats just me.
PoT is my favorite Korn album, and I've been a fan since the self titled album released. It was new and fresh, and combined two genras I loved in a way I liked. I love Johnathan Davis other features in EDM, like the track he did with Skynd.
@@RockedNet Reckless also qualifies (actually, I like most of the album, but it should have been more in the vein of that song, commercial but still hard rocking).
I probably like Turbo more than a lot of people but they definitely improved (and changed their sound yet again) by the time Painkiller came out only 4 years later.
Out In The Cold is my favorite off the record, Turbo is far from their worst without touching the Ripper Owen's material, Ram It Down is pretty bland with few kernels to enjoy
@@lordofscarletDemolition sucks, but I think Jugulator is a very underrated Judas Priest album. It’s easily in the top half of their discography in my opinion.
I said this when you asked about this originally: AMERICA by Thirty Seconds to Mars is a MAJOR example of this. 30STM experimented with some electronic and pop elements before, but that album completely abandoned the rock and turned into a Jared Leto solo project more than a band. And it's practically a family-only band by now too, since Tomo Milicevic, their long time guitarist, left during production. Not to mention, this was during the (still ongoing) "extreme ego insanity trip" phase of Jared Leto's career, so there's that. The best way to describe the album is a quote by Gregg Allman: "That record sucked, man. It bit the dirt, and it didn't sell sh-t. There was one, maybe two decent songs on that record, but it was basically terrible, just awful." And it's telling when one of those two decent songs is Monolith... which is an instrumental interlude.
Walk On Water is my guilty pleasure, I still listen to it from time to time. It takes me back to my middle school days (I’m a high school senior now). For me, it’s in the same category of “inoffensive, catchy pop” as, let’s say, Radioactive by Imagine Dragons or Counting Stars by One Republic.
@@martinhroch344 That's the other song, besides Monolith, that I don't mind too much. That at least felt like it had elements of early 30STM (or at least the band before this album), and gave me sort of confidence that the album would be okay before everything went down the toilet.
Music from The Elder by KISS definitely deserves a mention here. Their attempt at a prog rock fantasy themed concept album. It tanked so hard, they weren’t able to even tour off of it. It’s a. Very interesting listen.
I have always like The Elder but yeah it was a huge change. But what about Dynasty? Talk about trying to fit in to the current music style, but disco? Still I like that one as well just different.
@@NWGhost71 I actually love Dynasty. "I Was Made for Loving You" is a total throwaway but the rest of the album is great. "Magic Touch" has always been one of my favorite KISS songs.
Korn was always a band that prided itself on experimenting and shaking things up musically for metal, which is why I always respected Path of Totality’s existence despite not liking the album outside of “Get Up” being one of my biggest guilty pleasures. And although I don’t view it as being as huge of a stretch in sound as a lot of people think, I also have the hugest soft spot for Turbo.
The Korn “Headless period” was definitely The band struggling with their identity, from See You On the Other Side being their most mainstream album to losing David Silveria and trying to go back to basics with the untitled album and Korn 3, thank God Head came back or who knows what else they would have made.
Seriously. Path of Totality was not a change in style, it was an application of creativity. Korn was always experimental. The untitled album was fever dream of soundscapes unlike anything they've ever made. Each Korn album has a certain feel, and Path of Totality did just that. A bit of the electronic aspect has stuck around with their music, but as someone who is also a Daft Punk fan, I welcome it. I do need to get around to listening to their recent albums more than I already have.
Turbo I loved !!! Plus it was groundbreaking by using heavy techno dance loops and incorporating in Metal. It was the blueprint for Rammstein , NIN, Rob Zombie, Powerman, Stabbing Westword and more.
Motley Crue's Generation Swine album was just awful. Talk about an '80s rock band trying to appeal to the '90s crowd. Plus, VAN HALEN III was a mistake.
The motley crue album was bad, Nikki sixx'l has claimed roots in every genre going first 'we were definitely a punk band' then 'we were always a total metal band' then it was 'we were definitely in a grunge mindset'.....nope.
Van Halen 3 is a terrible record by all means, and barely has any replay value. (I have a soft spot for “Year To The Day” but thats about it) I’m not a fan of the weird experimentation and tunings on the album especially EVH dropping his tuning down to A on some of the songs.
My sister was a huge fan girl for MCR and she was so excited for Danger Days. She then got the album, listened once and literally threw it in the trash. ME on the other hand? I loved it, and my sister along with a lot of other “real fans” bashed me and told me I wasn’t a “real fan” for liking it. It was a nice change to something a bit more lively. But I can’t stand when bands stagnate in a bad way and felt MCR needed to change for at least one album to detox a little bit.
I don't like danger days tbh, my favorite of all time has to be probably the black parade because of how many times i listened to it, back-to-back and still found it awesome. Danger days is my second most listened to, and i think that even three cheers is better. Much richer replay value and overall sounds. I think if they took a little more time in the oven with it, it could have been way better.
Saaaaaame. It's so far out there, compared to the rest of their work, but that's what makes it for me, there was no way they could really top The Black Parade
@@deadeyedarwin they just slowed the tempo on South of Heaven, still heavy as f**k in a Sabbath sort of way. It was a change from Reign In Blood but not even close to being a failure.
You can’t tell me Linkin Park shouldn’t have had an honorable mention (twice). A Thousand Suns (2010) definitely divided their fan base with their electronic sound and One More Light (2017) had Coldplay sounding like Metallica. BMTH’s amo wasn’t bad. Long term fans weren’t happy but it exposed them to a wider fan base. They went for a more pop oriented sound but they at least pulled it off unlike Linkin Park. Songs like “Wonderful Life”, “MANTRA”, and “sugar honey iced tea” are bangers for the heavier fans. It’s not a bad album, but definitely their most diverse.
Thankyou for mentioning whitechapel at the end there as an example of a deathcore band evolving and using clean vocals as a way to elevate the material. Kin and The Valley are two of my all time fav records, it's amazing when a huge gamble like that pays off.
@@rossh2386 fair enough, I love the old stuff too, but I really appreciate the added emotional depth and maturity of the new material. Makes it much more replayable and they serve as fantastic gateway albums to death core as songs like The Ones who Made Us, To The Wolves, Forgiveness is Weakness, When a Demon Defiles a Witch, Bloodsoaked Symphony and We Are One are still heavy as fuck
@@rossh2386 no… they’re not lol. Not even close to awful. They’re not the old style sure. But that’s a good thing. All artists should change this long into their career. If they had that same sound as the old stuff on literally every album they’d have an incredibly small following these days. That shit would get real old. But objectively speaking, they’re incredible, well written, and emotionally impactful albums. There’s a million times more substance there than the old stuff. So no, not awful. You’re just picky.
The Valley was amazing! Kin had songs but didn't live up to The Valley. I love all of their old work too, but the Valley is a great example of them growing. Kin was kind of too far if that makes sense
I'm happy that nowdays Danger Days has a better reception than the time it was released. I personally prefer it over the black parade, although I also love that album. Danger Days is not bad, it just came at the wrong time. Great video
Gerard probably should have realized that people expected a certain kind of tone from MCR and released the danger days as a Side Project Like imagine if Green Day released Money Money 2020 under the Green Day Name
I feel like one of his comic book ideas got accidentally shuffled into ideas for MCR albums. I never really warmed up to it, I feel like it should've been a solo side venture or like, a multi-media thing w graphic novels and some bonus songs/visuals. Which it sorta became anyways.
I remember Linkin Park tried to change their sound twice. The first time was when dubstep was starting to get popular with their Recharged album and the second time started with Heavy, then One Final Light. Linkin Parks last album before Chester Bennington passed away.
They didn’t do a dubstep album or try to change to sound to jump on that trend, they simply did a feature with Steve Aoki, that’s it. That Exact same year they released The Hunting Party which is by far their most “rock” record they ever produced and that was very much not what the trend was at the time.
@@comixproviderftw_02 all good bro, LP are a band that changed their sound a bunch of times(every single album after Meteora went in a different direction from the previous one) but I think I speak for all when I say One More Light is the only one that sees them ever so slightly trend hoping(putting it mildly when I say that lmao) and it not working at all. Sad that that’s their final album 😞
Great video as always, man. Some bands that come to my head when I read the title: -Coldplay going full cheese pop with their last album -Bullet for my Valentine going "soft" with Gravity -Fall Out Boy cashing in on mainstream attention on "Save Rock and Roll" and MANIA -Green Day going Boomer Rock with Uno! Dos! and Tré! and then doubling down on father of all -Linkin Park stepping away from their essence on One More Light. And...well, it's not more like a "sound" but more of "essence", Gorillaz relying on their guests on humanz.
Danger Days was actually the album that got me *into* MCR Because comic book writer (and real life friend of Way) Grant Morrison mentioned the band and being in their music videos in an old interview
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I'm one of the defenders of Korn's Path of Totality but I'm also just a sucker for mixing heavy music and electronic music so it hit that sweet spot for me.
Love electronnic and industrial, even some early synthwave. But I really couldn't listen to that album. I really don't like dubstep so i'd pass on that. I'd just throw some Skinny Puppy (one of davis' idodls) Ministry or KMFDM if I wanted some industrial.
It could've been trimmed down. One of the B sides was actually really good. But yeah, I liked the album for the most part. A few songs suffered from sounding similar to other songs on the album, but it made sense why they made it. It just leaned a bit too heavily on the electronics for most people.
Honestly, if you listen to Danger Days in full, it's not as happy as the first few tracks would have you believe. The concept of the album is about the Killjoys fighting a powerful mega-corporation (this and the setting of 2019 being a reference to Blade Runner), and all of them dying in the process. "I'll tell you all how this story ends, where the good guys die and the bad guys win," being a line that foreshadows this in "Save Yourself, I'll Hold Them Back." It's actually very bleak and still kind of fits into MCR's emo image, just in a different way. Also, the penultimate song on the album, "The Kids from Yesterday," is fucking heartrending.
KISS - Dynasty/Unmasked...well, at least in America, this was actually their biggest success in Australia, but the pop/rock and rock-disco alienated a lot of their core fan base. Foo Fighters - Medicine At Midnight. Dave Grohl decides that he loves disco and so he makes a (mostly) disco inspired album designed to be danced to. It just didn't work. KISS - Music From The Elder. Although loved by some, it divided fans. It's basically KISS trying to be Yes and/or The Who. It's not playing to their strengths. New Kids On The Block - NKOTB. A boy band tries to reinvent themselves as Gangsta Rappers. KISS - Carnival Of Souls. This time they were trying to be Alice In Chains and/or Nirvana and/or Metallica.
I will defend Danger Days as a great album until I die. Also, another example is Highly Suspect with MCID. The band was set to become one of the biggest new bands in rock, until Johnny Stevens decided to become a rapper and the band had to go along with it. So fans were treated with a hip-hop album, and not even a good one. The album single-handedly tanked the band’s success to the point where their new album, despite being decent, was a flop. I hope they can come back, but I’m not sure at this point.
I think it's great that bands try new things, I have more respect for the bands on this list than bands that stagnate and hold onto what made them successful, these bands were willing to take a risk and try to grow as musicians even if it didn't work out
Not sure if this counts or not but “Ghost” by Devin Townsend Project. It received acclaim by many critics and really showcases Devin Townsend’s music talent by doing the complete opposite of the Extreme Metal he’s known for and doing an album of folk rock and ambient music. However, it may have been too opposite for fans because it didn’t sell enough for him to make Ghost 2 like he wanted. Seriously, check the album out, it’s really good!
In 1988, extreme metal pioneers Celtic Frost went with a more traditional (for the 1980's) heavy metal sound and a more glammy look with the album Cold Lake. Critics and core fans alike hated it.
@Eclipse. I would argue that Theory Of A Deadman is miles better than anything by MCR or BMTH. And Theory are a very mid/average band, but yet they are like Mozart compared to MCR and BMTH.
They really feel like trendhoppers. "Butt rock is popular? We're gonna do butt rock. Butt rock is out and "edgy," borderline pop "rock" is in? Now we're gonna do borderline pop "rock." Being a dude bro sells? Well we're gonna have the dude broiest lyrics possible! Oh man, being political is popular now? Well now we're gonna be political, even if it clashes with our previous kind of lyrics."
Danger Days and Turbo are both solid albums imo. I don't *hate* Generation Swine or Into the Unknown, but they're certainly "I won't go out of my way to listen to them" albums.
Cryptopsy's "The Unspoken King" and Morbid Angel's "Illud Divinum Insanus" are two good examples of a band's change of sound sucking so much that the album(s) after backpedaled hard.
While I don't mind the album "Evolution" by Disturbed, I understand why many of my fellow Disturbed fans hated it. It was definitely not what you would expect from the band, due to its more, I guess you would call, softer tone, instead of heavy and aggressive sound that the band is known for. If I'm not mistaken, Godsmack had a similar problem with their ""When Legends Rise" album, by changing their sound to a softer tone.
@Christopher Bingham I agree with all of that. Also, I remember when Corey Taylor from Slipknot was talking about when Metallica released their Black Album and how people, including Taylor himself, were pissed because of how different it was from all of Metallica's previous stuff. Well, Taylor said that years later, he went back to that album, gave it a fair chance and actually enjoyed it. The point is that I'm sure that, given time, many Disturbed fans will come around.
Amo was BMTH’s first #1 album. As a big fan of the band, it took a few listens to get into it, and I’ll still never like some of the songs on that album but overall I think it’s pretty solid. That being said, Post Human: Survival Horror blows Amo out of the water.
One that comes to mind for me is Shallow Life by Lacuna Coil. It's a very divisive album for many fans. They went for a more pop rock sound than their usual gothic metal. The only song that had much staying power was Spellbound. I don't hate it, but it's by no means my favorite Lacuna Coil album. I was glad when they went back to their heavier sound, especially with Delirium and Black Anima.
Shallow Life is the last album I liked by any means. I actually used to know the band and have an autographed copy of In A Reverie. Unleashed Memories stayed in my cd player for a solid 6 months. After that era, everything just sounded flat.
The Path of Totality polarised critics but I actually kinda enjoyed some of it. The dubstep and nu-metal combo actually works somewhat here. Strangely enough, this album first got me interested in the rest of Korn's records. I'm surprised you didn't mention Linkin Park, they changed their music often and usually not for the better, especially One More Light.
One example that immediately comes to mind is Crypropsy's The Unspoken King. A brutal / technical death metal band trying out some deathcore sounds. Needless to say, the reception wasn't particularly warm.
I feel like it’s hard to talk about failed reinventions without bringing up Chris Gaines. I also think “Turbo” gets way too much hate. It’s notably weaker than some of their best records, but I’ll still take it over any of the Halfordless albums.
Having listened to their first albums at the time they were relevant, makes me sad that they're known best for Black Parade. I had a lot of trouble coming around to it
Another Judas Priest example is Nostradamus in 2008 when they tried making a 100-minute prog concept double album. It does have its moments (I personally enjoy Prophecy, Death, and Persecution) but it had a real problem of similar-sounding songs and an overabundance on interludes. Definitely was an interesting idea, but Iron Maiden did it WAY better in '88.
I'll just point out Stabbing Westward's 2001 self-titles album. They dropped their darker synth sound, going for sonething closer to pop-rock. It was pretty reviled and was one of the factors that lead to the band's break-up. Thankfully, we got Chasing Ghosts this year, which is a much more fitting swan song.
To say that album was disappointing would be an understatement. SW doing a friggin' LOVE SONG?? C'MON guys! You're not Barry Manilow, last I checked. (Didn't help that it was only 10 songs @ a little over 45 minutes--they clearly were low on ideas at the time).
@@davidl570 They got talked into it by their new record label (Koch) who didn't think an undustrial album would sell anymore. Given that they split up soon after I'm guessing that album had everything going against it. Thank god Chasing Ghosts felt like a return to form.
KoRn is my favorite band of all time! I'm a true long-time fan, I love them no matter what. I really enjoyed the Path of Totality, I thought it was a really cool combination.
I used to dislike PoT more, but hearing Untitled and Korn III, I came out respecting it more, Get Up and Narcissistic Cannibal still sometimes pop up on my playlists lol
@@D_d_t_d_D 2 of my favorite songs off the P.O.T! KoRn has so many albums, I can usually always find something I'm in the mood to listen to. 😊 Rock on, my friend! 🤘
Though their best track has to be on the self-titled album when you let it play long enough, and suddenly discover that somebody is really upset with someone named Jerry.
Sonata Arctica have moved away from their original style, power metal but with more personal lyrics than that genre typically has. Most of their newer stuff is slower and less catchy. It's fine I guess but it's just not the same 😔 If i do hear a new song I like of theirs it's usually because it sounds like the older stuff.
Some people weren't that happy about silverchair indulging in psychedelic/dream pop for Young Modern and thought of it as The Dissociatives taking over what was originally a grunge band (though, I was into it).
First two tracks were very good.. but the rest was a waste. Don't blame them for evolving. Just wished that Daniel johns would get the band back together
Say what you want about Danger Days, but I think the visuals from that time period in MCR's history were great. I love the marching band uniforms from Black Parade as much as the next fan, but seeing the guys wear bright colors and have fun was really refreshing. The music was hit-or-miss for me, but I wouldn't mind if Gerard Way's red hair made a comeback.
My pick would be the Load/Reload era of Metallica, when they leaned more into hard rock. While they still had some good tracks on them (I will defend Until It Sleeps until the day I die), it was mostly underwhelming, especially considering what Metallica are capable of delivering. Normally I'd prefer being bored over being ought right irritated by the music, but METALLICA isn't a band that should be able to bore me! And with that said, can't wait to see how much heat I take for this. Stay safe, guys! Solid work as always, Luke!
I guess I'm part of the few that loves load and reload (being only 32). They were my second and third entries to the band. Those albums got me through some hard times.....so they hold a place in my heart.
I honestly agree, it was definitely a unique shift for the band but at least it gave us banger songs like Ain't My Bitch, King Nothing, Until It Sleeps (which is a great song), Fuel, Unforgiven II and The Memory Remains
It was a change of pace for sure and a change that really cracked the Metallica fanbase in more ways than one. There's a case to be made that not every band can re-capture that lightning in the bottle that was the 80s in thrash metal such as Metallica's dominance. On the other hand, they could've done different too. The 90s was a weird time for The Big Four. Megadeth with Cryptic Writings and Risk. Anthrax with Volume 8 Metallica with Load/Re-Load Slayer with Diabolus in Musica
I heard Load and Reload after hearing the previous work first when I first got into Metallica (when I was 14, which, I’m 39 now). I still enjoy the Loads so, so much, often more than the earlier stuff. I don’t get why anyone dislikes them. Fun fact: I do love St. Anger, as well.
Simulation Theory wasn't the first time Muse completely changed their style to chase a trend. Just like Korn, they dove headfirst into dubstep territory with The 2nd Law and it was awful.
For as much crap as people give Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer for "changing their sound", I personally feel like Anthrax completely lost their way once John Bush entered the picture. Pretty much the only song I enjoyed from the Bush era was, appropriately enough, "Only".
It is unfortunate that Diabolus got a lot of heat from Slayer fans. Even a couple of friends of mine hate that album. For me, I felt that Slayer did an awesome job. Thick and heavy sounding guitars, a more present bass and some tribal drum beats (Death's Head). A far better direction than the likes of some of my other favorite thrash bands and it's still one of my all time favorite albums. The only track on Diabolus that bothered me a little was 'Stain Of Mind', hearing Araya belt out 'oh yeah'.
After seeing this video, I went to the album and listened to a couple songs. I dont think it's bad. It's definitely obvious that the style is a bit different, but I don't think it's bad.
I love the album, and Stain of Mind is a juke staple for me. I get what you're saying about the "Oh yeah" bit, but being 17-18 years old back then, driving aimlessly with friends, Bostaph's drums cracking your spine, yelling "Oh yeah" with Tom felt pretty great.
Diabolis is far from their best, but theres no such thing as a bad slayer album in my opinion. It also isn't as big of a departure in style as some make it out to be.
„Hot Space“ from Queen. The album shocked their traditional fanbase at that time. There is some great stuff on the album (Under Pressure, Life Is Real), but the first half is just Funk and Disco, so the Rock Fans mostly ignore this part until today. „Body Language is probably the worst Queen song of all time.
Chris Cornell - Scream. Trent Reznor later tweeted on how much of an "embarassment" this album was for Chris. Within Temptation - Hydra The entire album made the guest musicians the focus of it all. Most of them don't flow with Sharon's vocals. That's what we came for. Green Day - Father of All The entire album is Green Day trying to top and emulate the other musicians that they were touring alongside in the upcoming Hella Mega tour, and failing at matching their style.
Disturbed honestly started getting really soft after their debut. Their debut was a masterpiece then… idk what happened lol. It turned into like pop thrash with some weird monkey noises thrown in
A great example, although it's outside of rock or metal, is singer-songwriter Jewel trying to go full mainstream pop with the album "03/04". I only knew a few of her songs at the time this came out. Even then, seeing the music video for "Intuition" is still to this day one of the biggest "WTF, this can't actually be happening" reactions I've ever had to music.
Intuition by Jewel was definitively one of the biggest WTF moments for the time. To me it still sounds like a chord progression written on an acoustic guitar. All music is chord progressions…or a lack there of. Was it a commercial failure though? Did the album sales flop? I truly don’t know. Intuition is my favorite Jewel song. The production and video were a spoof on soulless commercialism. It was a joke that went over many heads, but at the same time it was a gutsy and artistic move. Sounds good to me.
Danger Days is misplaced on here, as is the characterization of what fans like about MCR, as is the broad categorization of Danger Days as "more uplifting" compared to past releases. I'm married to a superfan who converted me to the fanbase, and pretty much everything that was said in that segment was completely off based on my years of being taken through MCR-land lol Fans don't *tend* to like it the same as the other three, but they still like it a lot and a bunch of the songs from that album are some of their most beloved songs. We caught them live twice this year, and some of the most enthusiastic reactions from the crowd were from Danger Days songs. Fans still really like the aesthetic surrounding it (lots of cosplaying at the shows), and it was well-received critically, too. The concept and comics that spawned from it are popular as well. Out of curiosity, what are you basing this opinion on? Because I could understand the argument that its not as well-liked as Three Cheers or Black Parade- it isn't, generally- but this is the first time I've ever heard the opinion that the fanbase just straight up dislikes like the album, and especially after catching a couple of the reunion shows, that claim seems pretty baseless to me.
Thanks for mentioning Motley Crue's Generation Swine album, I would add Red White & Crue too, but Saints of Los Angeles was a good listen. I liked that Turbo album from Judas Priest and that Slayer album I had no idea that was a new progressive rock, just sounded like Slayer to me, but Slayer tends to run together.
My big pick for a band that I like much better after a sound change, but I know a lot of fans don't, is Dir En Grey. Then again, they are one of the precious few bands I can think of that started out with a really mainstream sound, then went in a heavier and more experimental direction.
DeG only flaw is that they try so much stuff out that you never know what you'll get. But shit they do everything very well and Kyo is a beast of a vocalist!
amo is a great fucking album and makes a lot of sense if you listen through all their albums chronologically. They slowly started adding in more pop/Linkin Park style songwriting even as early as There Is A Hell. I love that they don't give a fuck about "staying in their lane" and absolutely don't need to.
"Eric Hirschi" I agree. Plus, that album got me into BMTH which slowly became my 4th favourite band of all time. Don't know why it is overlooked a lot btw
@@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 Everybody has their own reasons. amo convinced me to give them another try after not being impressed by their earlier albums and now they are one of my favorite bands. Who are your other 3? I assume LP is in there somewhere.
@@erichirschi315 Other than BMTH, I like Linkin Park, Green Day, Nirvana, System Of A Down, Evanescence, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Foo Fighters, blink-182, Spiritbox, No Doubt etc
Path of totality is what put life back in Korn again after trying to go back to their old sound on Remember Who You Are and failed to recapture their sound without Head. The album korn changed their sound on and failed was Untitled. At least Path of Totality had something new and peaked peoples interests unlike the previous two albums
While I understand the criticisms of The Path of Totality and amo, I really enjoy those albums. The Path of Totality is admittedly nostalgic, though I feel it’s a solid fit for the band considering the sound of See You on the Other Side and Untitled. amo also felt like a natural direction for BMTH, think about the more poppy and electronic elements of Sempiternal and That’s the Spirit.
ngl but I kinda tried listening to BMTH's whole discography straight, and I realized that it was a teeny tiny bit obvious that by the 4th or 5th record, they were gonna sound like a completely different band. even just by suicide season, they already started incorporating little bits and styles that weren't associated with deathcore/metalcore.
@@DragonKnightX12 it’s a grower for sure. Even I had to get into it, though I did much faster than others bc I was in an experimental phase around that time.
Another album I'd have added would have been Metallica's Load/ReLoad when they went more hard/alternative rock, was was extremely divided against fans and critics considering the band had just come off of the absolute juggernaut that was the Black Album. Sure it was an obvious departure in style (both musically and aesthetically, considering the band totally changed their look to a more "clean-cut" vibe with shorter hair and whatnot) but they were still great albums in my opinion and gave us killer songs like Ain't My Bitch, King Nothing, Fuel, Unforgiven II, The Memory Remains and Until It Sleeps
I feel like if if you take Load and Reload, trim the weak songs off both you'd get one REALLY good album of the new alt-rock flavored style rather than 2 "ehh its alright" albums of it. You could call it Motherload, or Sh!tload if you're feeling goofy.
@@Replicaate I've always been on board with this idea. I personally would go with Fuel, The Memory Remains, Ain't My B, Hero of the Day, Until it Sleeps, The Unforgiven II, Bleeding Me, King Nothing, Wasting My Hate, Carpe Diem Baby, Low Man's Lyric, The Outlaw Torn, and Fixxxer.
I can appreciate it when bands try new things different. I don’t appreciate it if it’s just change for the sake of laziness. Even if these albums were misfires, they were at least bold and interesting misfires that we still talk about nonetheless.
I think Korn was just ahead of the time. Because recently there's a huge boom in EDM and Rock/Metal fusions. From the new wave of "Metalstep" artist such as Sullivan King and PhaseOne, to Dubstep collaborations left and right. Bands like Electric Callboy, BMTH, Bad Omens, I Prevail...etc that incorporate a lot of electronic elements are shooting up to the top. Also fun fact: Jonathan Davis is heavily into EDM, in fact he was actually a DJ himself before joining Korn.
A lot of my friends have a weird relationship with Amo, but to me it's BMTH's best work yet. P.s I've been a fan since they started, so I like their heavy stuff too. But there's some excellent world-class songwriting in Amo which is only matched by Post human and to some extent That's the spirit (although not as much)
I love Amo, people hate so much on BMTH for that record, but i love almost all of the songs in it. I feel that metal music has a lot of purists and that’s why records with different style get shit from listeners.
The Path of Totality is fucking awesome! People let the idea of just hate the album cause it’s dubstep get in the way to actually maybe seeing that the album is fucking killer and had jams …
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Thank you for including amo. I've enjoyed much of BMTH's work, including the Post Human: Survival Horror EP, but I have no use for amo.
If I had to pick a band that I used to like and switched up their sound for the worse, I would say Finger Eleven. They were never amazing, but they were surprisingly good for a nu metal and, and then they made money off of "One Thing" and swerved hard into electronic radio rock. Sigh.
One more note: as a longtime solider in the MCRmy, I actually love Danger Days. A lot of the lyrics are darker than most people realize; the whole album is a testament to how much MCR loves the Lyrical Dissonance trope, and I think it works.
Finger Eleven KEPT changing which was a huge issue. I was a massive fan of F11 during The Greyest Of Blue Skies days.
Linkin Park failed terribly with the 2010’s. You should do a One More Light Regretting The Past.
@@RockedNet where do you get all those corey taylor photos id love to have one om a die hard fan of slipknots corey taylor i love seeing him in any masks he wears hes my favorite singer what do you think about mushroomead latest album a wonderful life do you love it or hate it which album was better the end so far or a wonderful life
@@Linkin_Swift hey man linkin park trys new stuff dont hate tthe band i love for lots of reasons they got hated for making minutes to midnight and yes i love that album so dont mention one more light look at minutes to midnight it has songs that would sound like they would appear on one more light
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They’re Down with the Sickness man!
Agreed lol
It's not like anything they've ever done was creative or innovative anyway. They've always been bland, uninspired, and uninspiring.
First one that comes to mind is Megadeth's "Risk" from 1999. I was actually depressed for days because I was so excited for a new Megadeth album, then...this. I actually halfway as a joke took the CD back to the store, and when they said they could only take it back if it was defective, I said "It IS defective. It sucks." 🤣
Agreed. Almost as bad as my reaction to St. Anger. I hadn't heard any of it when I bought it. I opened it immediately at the mall and popped it in my walkman... almost tossed it in the trash at that very moment 😭
It wasn't supposed to be a Megadeth album but got released that way.
@@k2bny St. Anger deserves a official remake. I pursosely listen on cheap headphones. That makes the snare more bearable LOL
@@flexxx222 I wouldn't mind that to some degree. There was some potential
it has some good songs though. not as bad as Super Collider to me. Prince of Darkness is a song i reallyyy like
Johnathon Davis has actually gone on record MANY times saying that he loves electronic music from Industrial to Trance and House, and when Dubstep came out, it blew him away. PoT was less about Korn chasing the trend and more JD getting to finally be part of a culture he had cherished for such a long time, making music in a genre he always wanted to play around with. Even after PoT, JD has made sure to implement a bunch of electronic elements in their later albums, including on tracks like Never Never, Black is the Soul, and Worst is On Its Way. PoT may have been a commercial failure, but it is FAR from something JD regrets, and honestly, I'm happy for the guy that he could have that experience and still go on to make awesome albums with the crew.
IIRC he called The Downward Spiral his favorite album.
Love that album. Made sense to me🤷🏾♂️👍🏻
I hated the inclusion of that sound in Korn. But if they love it, then more power and respect for them going there.
I still think bands should release music like this under a different name or something. But thats just me.
PoT is my favorite Korn album, and I've been a fan since the self titled album released. It was new and fresh, and combined two genras I loved in a way I liked. I love Johnathan Davis other features in EDM, like the track he did with Skynd.
that just proves the guy is a moron lol
9:27 Alright, Turbo was definitely a mixed bag, but Turbo Lover still SLAPS
Definitely one of the few songs that counts.
@@RockedNet Reckless also qualifies (actually, I like most of the album, but it should have been more in the vein of that song, commercial but still hard rocking).
I probably like Turbo more than a lot of people but they definitely improved (and changed their sound yet again) by the time Painkiller came out only 4 years later.
Out In The Cold is my favorite off the record, Turbo is far from their worst without touching the Ripper Owen's material, Ram It Down is pretty bland with few kernels to enjoy
@@lordofscarletDemolition sucks, but I think Jugulator is a very underrated Judas Priest album. It’s easily in the top half of their discography in my opinion.
I said this when you asked about this originally: AMERICA by Thirty Seconds to Mars is a MAJOR example of this. 30STM experimented with some electronic and pop elements before, but that album completely abandoned the rock and turned into a Jared Leto solo project more than a band. And it's practically a family-only band by now too, since Tomo Milicevic, their long time guitarist, left during production. Not to mention, this was during the (still ongoing) "extreme ego insanity trip" phase of Jared Leto's career, so there's that. The best way to describe the album is a quote by Gregg Allman:
"That record sucked, man. It bit the dirt, and it didn't sell sh-t. There was one, maybe two decent songs on that record, but it was basically terrible, just awful."
And it's telling when one of those two decent songs is Monolith... which is an instrumental interlude.
Agreed, it’s absolute garbage.
Walk On Water is my guilty pleasure, I still listen to it from time to time. It takes me back to my middle school days (I’m a high school senior now). For me, it’s in the same category of “inoffensive, catchy pop” as, let’s say, Radioactive by Imagine Dragons or Counting Stars by One Republic.
AMERICA was my worst album that year for many reasons.
God that album sucks
@@martinhroch344 That's the other song, besides Monolith, that I don't mind too much. That at least felt like it had elements of early 30STM (or at least the band before this album), and gave me sort of confidence that the album would be okay before everything went down the toilet.
I actually liked the Turbo album. Painkiller was a whole other level and so damn awesome.
I think every album with Rob is great!! The only albums I don't care for are those with Ripper.
Interesting that Ram It Down is not mentioned in the transition from Turbo to Painkiller.
Night Crawler 🤘
Jugulator is amazing agressive as fuck
Turbo ain't too bad, for sure.. has its moments. But yeah, Painkiller is royalty
Music from The Elder by KISS definitely deserves a mention here. Their attempt at a prog rock fantasy themed concept album. It tanked so hard, they weren’t able to even tour off of it. It’s a. Very interesting listen.
IIRC, it didn't help that the record label threw-out the original track order and put in their own, completely wrecking the intended story.
Half of that album is good imo. The other half though is uh... well, it's there.
@@DrawtheCurtains when it’s heavy, it’s great. But when it’s not. Well. It’s certainly music.
I have always like The Elder but yeah it was a huge change. But what about Dynasty? Talk about trying to fit in to the current music style, but disco? Still I like that one as well just different.
@@NWGhost71 I actually love Dynasty. "I Was Made for Loving You" is a total throwaway but the rest of the album is great. "Magic Touch" has always been one of my favorite KISS songs.
Path of Totality is an AMAZING album. It's a constant rotation in my playlist.
I agree. I liked it.
Korn was always a band that prided itself on experimenting and shaking things up musically for metal, which is why I always respected Path of Totality’s existence despite not liking the album outside of “Get Up” being one of my biggest guilty pleasures.
And although I don’t view it as being as huge of a stretch in sound as a lot of people think, I also have the hugest soft spot for Turbo.
The Korn “Headless period” was definitely The band struggling with their identity, from See You On the Other Side being their most mainstream album to losing David Silveria and trying to go back to basics with the untitled album and Korn 3, thank God Head came back or who knows what else they would have made.
@@Malum09 true those years were not good to the band
@@manueltapia1859 i like some songs from each of those albums, but as a whole that's Korn's weakest era.
Think of it as a concept album. The songwriting is still solid and distinctively Korn. It’s not like they intended to become a dubstep act forever.
I really love “Pop a pill” from the Korn 3 album. Underrated AF
Path of Totality was just what Korn needed to get reinvigorated! That was a fantastic album that was risky but fit their style.
Exactly, had any other band tried to do what they did they'd have likely failed, Korn embraced the change and it worked for them.
Also jd is a dj .. woah I see what I did there. Anyway he's always been into electronic music.
I love that album
It got me back listening to them!
Seriously. Path of Totality was not a change in style, it was an application of creativity.
Korn was always experimental. The untitled album was fever dream of soundscapes unlike anything they've ever made.
Each Korn album has a certain feel, and Path of Totality did just that. A bit of the electronic aspect has stuck around with their music, but as someone who is also a Daft Punk fan, I welcome it.
I do need to get around to listening to their recent albums more than I already have.
Turbo I loved !!! Plus it was groundbreaking by using heavy techno dance loops and incorporating in Metal. It was the blueprint for Rammstein , NIN, Rob Zombie, Powerman, Stabbing Westword and more.
Turbo was my first Priest album and is still my favourite. It is just not your typical Priest music but it is great.
It's one of my favourite Judas priest albums. Hugely underrated.
Motley Crue's Generation Swine album was just awful. Talk about an '80s rock band trying to appeal to the '90s crowd. Plus, VAN HALEN III was a mistake.
The motley crue album was bad, Nikki sixx'l has claimed roots in every genre going first 'we were definitely a punk band' then 'we were always a total metal band' then it was 'we were definitely in a grunge mindset'.....nope.
I loved it. I have never heard of Motley Crüe before that album though. Very industrial and grunge. Lol
Van Halen 3 is a terrible record by all means, and barely has any replay value. (I have a soft spot for “Year To The Day” but thats about it) I’m not a fan of the weird experimentation and tunings on the album especially EVH dropping his tuning down to A on some of the songs.
I don't mind swine man to be honest got some alright songs can keep Tommy stupid song and glitter the rest is alright.
That album is great. One of my favorites
My sister was a huge fan girl for MCR and she was so excited for Danger Days. She then got the album, listened once and literally threw it in the trash.
ME on the other hand? I loved it, and my sister along with a lot of other “real fans” bashed me and told me I wasn’t a “real fan” for liking it.
It was a nice change to something a bit more lively. But I can’t stand when bands stagnate in a bad way and felt MCR needed to change for at least one album to detox a little bit.
I loved the album as well.
Personally, I thought Black Parade was absolute garbage and so was everything else since. Bullets and Three Cheers were their only good albums.
I love all of their stuff so it's hard picking favorites. But for a while, it was danger days. Idc if it's more pop sounding, it fucking bops lmao.
Danger days is blast of nonstop energy and excitement. It still has MCR charm too. It's my favourite album from them
I don't like danger days tbh, my favorite of all time has to be probably the black parade because of how many times i listened to it, back-to-back and still found it awesome. Danger days is my second most listened to, and i think that even three cheers is better. Much richer replay value and overall sounds. I think if they took a little more time in the oven with it, it could have been way better.
Danger days is excellent. After The Black Parade there was no way they could just make another emo album. The turn in pace was great.
Saaaaaame. It's so far out there, compared to the rest of their work, but that's what makes it for me, there was no way they could really top The Black Parade
Slayer - Diabolus In Musica is totally awesome and an underrated album. It is actually a lot better than many other albums from that era.
Agreed, I like South of Heaven, but it would make more sense on this list than Diabolus In Musica.
Right?? Diabolus is amazing
I agree! I prefer that dummer! Diablos and Divine in my opinion are their best albums!
@@deadeyedarwin they just slowed the tempo on South of Heaven, still heavy as f**k in a Sabbath sort of way. It was a change from Reign In Blood but not even close to being a failure.
100% true 🤘
You can’t tell me Linkin Park shouldn’t have had an honorable mention (twice). A Thousand Suns (2010) definitely divided their fan base with their electronic sound and One More Light (2017) had Coldplay sounding like Metallica.
BMTH’s amo wasn’t bad. Long term fans weren’t happy but it exposed them to a wider fan base. They went for a more pop oriented sound but they at least pulled it off unlike Linkin Park. Songs like “Wonderful Life”, “MANTRA”, and “sugar honey iced tea” are bangers for the heavier fans. It’s not a bad album, but definitely their most diverse.
Thankyou for mentioning whitechapel at the end there as an example of a deathcore band evolving and using clean vocals as a way to elevate the material. Kin and The Valley are two of my all time fav records, it's amazing when a huge gamble like that pays off.
Those albums are absolutely awful. Even live fans want to see somatic and exile era songs played
@@rossh2386 fair enough, I love the old stuff too, but I really appreciate the added emotional depth and maturity of the new material. Makes it much more replayable and they serve as fantastic gateway albums to death core as songs like The Ones who Made Us, To The Wolves, Forgiveness is Weakness, When a Demon Defiles a Witch, Bloodsoaked Symphony and We Are One are still heavy as fuck
@@rossh2386 no… they’re not lol. Not even close to awful. They’re not the old style sure. But that’s a good thing. All artists should change this long into their career. If they had that same sound as the old stuff on literally every album they’d have an incredibly small following these days. That shit would get real old. But objectively speaking, they’re incredible, well written, and emotionally impactful albums. There’s a million times more substance there than the old stuff. So no, not awful. You’re just picky.
The Valley was amazing! Kin had songs but didn't live up to The Valley. I love all of their old work too, but the Valley is a great example of them growing. Kin was kind of too far if that makes sense
I'm happy that nowdays Danger Days has a better reception than the time it was released. I personally prefer it over the black parade, although I also love that album. Danger Days is not bad, it just came at the wrong time. Great video
Gerard probably should have realized that people expected a certain kind of tone from MCR and released the danger days as a Side Project
Like imagine if Green Day released Money Money 2020 under the Green Day Name
I feel like one of his comic book ideas got accidentally shuffled into ideas for MCR albums. I never really warmed up to it, I feel like it should've been a solo side venture or like, a multi-media thing w graphic novels and some bonus songs/visuals. Which it sorta became anyways.
I remember Linkin Park tried to change their sound twice. The first time was when dubstep was starting to get popular with their Recharged album and the second time started with Heavy, then One Final Light. Linkin Parks last album before Chester Bennington passed away.
They didn’t do a dubstep album or try to change to sound to jump on that trend, they simply did a feature with Steve Aoki, that’s it. That Exact same year they released The Hunting Party which is by far their most “rock” record they ever produced and that was very much not what the trend was at the time.
@@Chris24_ Ah, my mistake
@@comixproviderftw_02 all good bro, LP are a band that changed their sound a bunch of times(every single album after Meteora went in a different direction from the previous one) but I think I speak for all when I say One More Light is the only one that sees them ever so slightly trend hoping(putting it mildly when I say that lmao) and it not working at all. Sad that that’s their final album 😞
They never changed there style really, they never had really had a style,
@@theseth455 you’re right, I think it’s just them going for a more radio friendly album as apposed to them jumping on any trend.
Great video as always, man. Some bands that come to my head when I read the title:
-Coldplay going full cheese pop with their last album
-Bullet for my Valentine going "soft" with Gravity
-Fall Out Boy cashing in on mainstream attention on "Save Rock and Roll" and MANIA
-Green Day going Boomer Rock with Uno! Dos! and Tré! and then doubling down on father of all
-Linkin Park stepping away from their essence on One More Light.
And...well, it's not more like a "sound" but more of "essence", Gorillaz relying on their guests on humanz.
Gorillaz has always been guests. That is like the entire point..?
Danger Days was actually the album that got me *into* MCR
Because comic book writer (and real life friend of Way) Grant Morrison mentioned the band and being in their music videos in an old interview
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I'm one of the defenders of Korn's Path of Totality but I'm also just a sucker for mixing heavy music and electronic music so it hit that sweet spot for me.
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Love electronnic and industrial, even some early synthwave. But I really couldn't listen to that album. I really don't like dubstep so i'd pass on that. I'd just throw some Skinny Puppy (one of davis' idodls) Ministry or KMFDM if I wanted some industrial.
Metal and electronic combined it GOD TEIR music.
It could've been trimmed down. One of the B sides was actually really good. But yeah, I liked the album for the most part. A few songs suffered from sounding similar to other songs on the album, but it made sense why they made it. It just leaned a bit too heavily on the electronics for most people.
Honestly, if you listen to Danger Days in full, it's not as happy as the first few tracks would have you believe. The concept of the album is about the Killjoys fighting a powerful mega-corporation (this and the setting of 2019 being a reference to Blade Runner), and all of them dying in the process. "I'll tell you all how this story ends, where the good guys die and the bad guys win," being a line that foreshadows this in "Save Yourself, I'll Hold Them Back." It's actually very bleak and still kind of fits into MCR's emo image, just in a different way. Also, the penultimate song on the album, "The Kids from Yesterday," is fucking heartrending.
Neil Young's rockabilly album is one of the strangest style changes in the history of rock and pop music
Not as strange as his new wave album, "Trans".
KISS - Dynasty/Unmasked...well, at least in America, this was actually their biggest success in Australia, but the pop/rock and rock-disco alienated a lot of their core fan base.
Foo Fighters - Medicine At Midnight. Dave Grohl decides that he loves disco and so he makes a (mostly) disco inspired album designed to be danced to. It just didn't work.
KISS - Music From The Elder. Although loved by some, it divided fans. It's basically KISS trying to be Yes and/or The Who. It's not playing to their strengths.
New Kids On The Block - NKOTB. A boy band tries to reinvent themselves as Gangsta Rappers.
KISS - Carnival Of Souls. This time they were trying to be Alice In Chains and/or Nirvana and/or Metallica.
Danger Days came out ten years too early. I relistend to it when all that shit happened around us and suddenly it hit differently.
I will defend Danger Days as a great album until I die.
Also, another example is Highly Suspect with MCID. The band was set to become one of the biggest new bands in rock, until Johnny Stevens decided to become a rapper and the band had to go along with it. So fans were treated with a hip-hop album, and not even a good one. The album single-handedly tanked the band’s success to the point where their new album, despite being decent, was a flop. I hope they can come back, but I’m not sure at this point.
I’m not gonna lie, I expected your album to be on here dog
I think it's great that bands try new things, I have more respect for the bands on this list than bands that stagnate and hold onto what made them successful, these bands were willing to take a risk and try to grow as musicians even if it didn't work out
Not sure if this counts or not but “Ghost” by Devin Townsend Project. It received acclaim by many critics and really showcases Devin Townsend’s music talent by doing the complete opposite of the Extreme Metal he’s known for and doing an album of folk rock and ambient music. However, it may have been too opposite for fans because it didn’t sell enough for him to make Ghost 2 like he wanted.
Seriously, check the album out, it’s really good!
Anthrax's Stomp 442 put them back in the small club scene.
In 1988, extreme metal pioneers Celtic Frost went with a more traditional (for the 1980's) heavy metal sound and a more glammy look with the album Cold Lake. Critics and core fans alike hated it.
I really can't get past the vocals on CL. The riffs aren't all that bad, but Tom's voice sounds like dogshit on it
Yeah, that was epically terrible CF album.... Cherry Orchards (((((shudder))))
I remember that one. I was like WTF?
I’d argue Theory of a Deadman would qualify for this list with their two pop albums, but that would imply their sound ever worked to begin with.
They’ve always sucked.
@Eclipse. I would argue that Theory Of A Deadman is miles better than anything by MCR or BMTH. And Theory are a very mid/average band, but yet they are like Mozart compared to MCR and BMTH.
@@nu-metalfan2654Bad opinion. BMTH and MCR’s worst moments are leagues ahead of anything Theory has done.
They really feel like trendhoppers.
"Butt rock is popular? We're gonna do butt rock. Butt rock is out and "edgy," borderline pop "rock" is in? Now we're gonna do borderline pop "rock." Being a dude bro sells? Well we're gonna have the dude broiest lyrics possible! Oh man, being political is popular now? Well now we're gonna be political, even if it clashes with our previous kind of lyrics."
Danger Days and Turbo are both solid albums imo. I don't *hate* Generation Swine or Into the Unknown, but they're certainly "I won't go out of my way to listen to them" albums.
I love everything Disturbed and Korn does they could do a country record and I would still love it
SAME! They could pull it off
Whatever Korn do it cannot be a disappointment
Ok but please don't do anything like Untitled and the dubstep album
@Jonathan Williams III Is Highly Underrated
Cryptopsy's "The Unspoken King" and Morbid Angel's "Illud Divinum Insanus" are two good examples of a band's change of sound sucking so much that the album(s) after backpedaled hard.
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I'll say it: I liked The Path of Totality.
I agree
I like it to. Definitely not their best but it includes some stand out tracks like Get Up, Narcissistic Cannibal, and Way Too Far especially
Same! I got to see them for the first time on that Tour and It kicked ass! I listened to that album nonstop that year lmao
I really liked Path of Totality, not only Narcissistic Cannibal, but other songs as well.
It was simply a good album.
I'll admit, I actually like listening to Dangers Days and I really hope they give us Danger Days 2: The Return Of The Draculoids 😂
While I don't mind the album "Evolution" by Disturbed, I understand why many of my fellow Disturbed fans hated it. It was definitely not what you would expect from the band, due to its more, I guess you would call, softer tone, instead of heavy and aggressive sound that the band is known for. If I'm not mistaken, Godsmack had a similar problem with their ""When Legends Rise" album, by changing their sound to a softer tone.
@Christopher Bingham I agree with all of that. Also, I remember when Corey Taylor from Slipknot was talking about when Metallica released their Black Album and how people, including Taylor himself, were pissed because of how different it was from all of Metallica's previous stuff. Well, Taylor said that years later, he went back to that album, gave it a fair chance and actually enjoyed it.
The point is that I'm sure that, given time, many Disturbed fans will come around.
Amo was BMTH’s first #1 album. As a big fan of the band, it took a few listens to get into it, and I’ll still never like some of the songs on that album but overall I think it’s pretty solid. That being said, Post Human: Survival Horror blows Amo out of the water.
One that comes to mind for me is Shallow Life by Lacuna Coil. It's a very divisive album for many fans. They went for a more pop rock sound than their usual gothic metal. The only song that had much staying power was Spellbound.
I don't hate it, but it's by no means my favorite Lacuna Coil album. I was glad when they went back to their heavier sound, especially with Delirium and Black Anima.
I actually liked Cristina's cover of "Enjoy The Silence," though. That song needed a solid metal cover.
Shallow Life is the last album I liked by any means. I actually used to know the band and have an autographed copy of In A Reverie. Unleashed Memories stayed in my cd player for a solid 6 months. After that era, everything just sounded flat.
Celtic Frost and T.S.O.L. *need* to be on here! 😂
The Path of Totality polarised critics but I actually kinda enjoyed some of it. The dubstep and nu-metal combo actually works somewhat here. Strangely enough, this album first got me interested in the rest of Korn's records.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Linkin Park, they changed their music often and usually not for the better, especially One More Light.
Linkin Park should've gone a different direction with One More Light
Absolutely right, I would’ve been ok if it was at least a light rock album (lighter than Minutes to Midnight)
Danger Days is AMAZING!!!!
One example that immediately comes to mind is Crypropsy's The Unspoken King. A brutal / technical death metal band trying out some deathcore sounds. Needless to say, the reception wasn't particularly warm.
Holy shit, The Unspoken King could've been #1! What an absolute trainwreck...
I feel like it’s hard to talk about failed reinventions without bringing up Chris Gaines.
I also think “Turbo” gets way too much hate. It’s notably weaker than some of their best records, but I’ll still take it over any of the Halfordless albums.
At the time it came out I wasn’t huge on MCRs Danger Days but as an adult I LOVE this album.
Having listened to their first albums at the time they were relevant, makes me sad that they're known best for Black Parade. I had a lot of trouble coming around to it
Seems like that's the case w most ppl ! Including me
Amo is easily my favorite BMTH album. Every song was fantastic.
Was that a recent video of Bad Religion playing a song off of Into The Unknown?!? I honestly never thought that would EVER happen
It was in 2015 if I'm not mistaken.
Limp Bizkit when they changed their sound with 3 Dollar Bill Yall.
Before this, nobody had ever heard them.
Another Judas Priest example is Nostradamus in 2008 when they tried making a 100-minute prog concept double album. It does have its moments (I personally enjoy Prophecy, Death, and Persecution) but it had a real problem of similar-sounding songs and an overabundance on interludes. Definitely was an interesting idea, but Iron Maiden did it WAY better in '88.
I'll just point out Stabbing Westward's 2001 self-titles album. They dropped their darker synth sound, going for sonething closer to pop-rock. It was pretty reviled and was one of the factors that lead to the band's break-up. Thankfully, we got Chasing Ghosts this year, which is a much more fitting swan song.
To say that album was disappointing would be an understatement. SW doing a friggin' LOVE SONG?? C'MON guys! You're not Barry Manilow, last I checked. (Didn't help that it was only 10 songs @ a little over 45 minutes--they clearly were low on ideas at the time).
@@davidl570 They got talked into it by their new record label (Koch) who didn't think an undustrial album would sell anymore. Given that they split up soon after I'm guessing that album had everything going against it. Thank god Chasing Ghosts felt like a return to form.
@@drewtheunspoken3988 Okay, kind of figured that was the case! Thanks for the info.
KoRn is my favorite band of all time! I'm a true long-time fan, I love them no matter what. I really enjoyed the Path of Totality, I thought it was a really cool combination.
Lol nah
@@powertrip8676 you're entitled to your opinion, just like I'm entitled to mine. To each their own. So...lol to you too.
I used to dislike PoT more, but hearing Untitled and Korn III, I came out respecting it more, Get Up and Narcissistic Cannibal still sometimes pop up on my playlists lol
@@D_d_t_d_D 2 of my favorite songs off the P.O.T! KoRn has so many albums, I can usually always find something I'm in the mood to listen to. 😊 Rock on, my friend! 🤘
Though their best track has to be on the self-titled album when you let it play long enough, and suddenly discover that somebody is really upset with someone named Jerry.
Evolution sounds like it was named ironically
Sonata Arctica have moved away from their original style, power metal but with more personal lyrics than that genre typically has. Most of their newer stuff is slower and less catchy. It's fine I guess but it's just not the same 😔 If i do hear a new song I like of theirs it's usually because it sounds like the older stuff.
I loved Dangers Days from MCR when it came out. Didn’t bat an eyelash because of how different the first three albums were from each other.
Some people weren't that happy about silverchair indulging in psychedelic/dream pop for Young Modern and thought of it as The Dissociatives taking over what was originally a grunge band (though, I was into it).
First two tracks were very good.. but the rest was a waste. Don't blame them for evolving. Just wished that Daniel johns would get the band back together
Say what you want about Danger Days, but I think the visuals from that time period in MCR's history were great. I love the marching band uniforms from Black Parade as much as the next fan, but seeing the guys wear bright colors and have fun was really refreshing. The music was hit-or-miss for me, but I wouldn't mind if Gerard Way's red hair made a comeback.
Same tbh
My pick would be the Load/Reload era of Metallica, when they leaned more into hard rock. While they still had some good tracks on them (I will defend Until It Sleeps until the day I die), it was mostly underwhelming, especially considering what Metallica are capable of delivering. Normally I'd prefer being bored over being ought right irritated by the music, but METALLICA isn't a band that should be able to bore me! And with that said, can't wait to see how much heat I take for this. Stay safe, guys! Solid work as always, Luke!
I get what you mean. 90's Metallica was a wild trip to see what they would pull.
I guess I'm part of the few that loves load and reload (being only 32). They were my second and third entries to the band. Those albums got me through some hard times.....so they hold a place in my heart.
I honestly agree, it was definitely a unique shift for the band but at least it gave us banger songs like Ain't My Bitch, King Nothing, Until It Sleeps (which is a great song), Fuel, Unforgiven II and The Memory Remains
It was a change of pace for sure and a change that really cracked the Metallica fanbase in more ways than one. There's a case to be made that not every band can re-capture that lightning in the bottle that was the 80s in thrash metal such as Metallica's dominance. On the other hand, they could've done different too. The 90s was a weird time for The Big Four.
Megadeth with Cryptic Writings and Risk.
Anthrax with Volume 8
Metallica with Load/Re-Load
Slayer with Diabolus in Musica
I heard Load and Reload after hearing the previous work first when I first got into Metallica (when I was 14, which, I’m 39 now). I still enjoy the Loads so, so much, often more than the earlier stuff. I don’t get why anyone dislikes them. Fun fact: I do love St. Anger, as well.
Path of Totality was a really good album!..
Been a fan from the start, seen em live 3 X's...
Simulation Theory wasn't the first time Muse completely changed their style to chase a trend. Just like Korn, they dove headfirst into dubstep territory with The 2nd Law and it was awful.
Hot take but linkin parks and a thousand suns definitely should of been included yes theres couple of gems but other than that Album really falls flat
A Thousand Suns is a really good album. One More Light isn't so much.
I did a video about that one years back.
I would say One More Light instead
Oh I LOVE Turbo! Danger Days is great as well. I also kinda like Simulation Theory 🤣 this was a wonderful video!
I have never seen a MCR fan say anything bad about Danger Days
For as much crap as people give Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer for "changing their sound", I personally feel like Anthrax completely lost their way once John Bush entered the picture. Pretty much the only song I enjoyed from the Bush era was, appropriately enough, "Only".
It is unfortunate that Diabolus got a lot of heat from Slayer fans. Even a couple of friends of mine hate that album. For me, I felt that Slayer did an awesome job. Thick and heavy sounding guitars, a more present bass and some tribal drum beats (Death's Head). A far better direction than the likes of some of my other favorite thrash bands and it's still one of my all time favorite albums. The only track on Diabolus that bothered me a little was 'Stain Of Mind', hearing Araya belt out 'oh yeah'.
It was my favorite one they ever did.
After seeing this video, I went to the album and listened to a couple songs. I dont think it's bad. It's definitely obvious that the style is a bit different, but I don't think it's bad.
Only thing I can criticize on that album would be Bostaph's overmixed basedrum. But anything else just hits...especially hard.
I love the album, and Stain of Mind is a juke staple for me. I get what you're saying about the "Oh yeah" bit, but being 17-18 years old back then, driving aimlessly with friends, Bostaph's drums cracking your spine, yelling "Oh yeah" with Tom felt pretty great.
Diabolis is far from their best, but theres no such thing as a bad slayer album in my opinion. It also isn't as big of a departure in style as some make it out to be.
Gerard Way: _makes fun of bands on the Twilight soundtrack_
Hayley Williams: "Hold my herbal tea."
I actually love danger days honestly
„Hot Space“ from Queen. The album shocked their traditional fanbase at that time. There is some great stuff on the album (Under Pressure, Life Is Real), but the first half is just Funk and Disco, so the Rock Fans mostly ignore this part until today. „Body Language is probably the worst Queen song of all time.
Morbid Angel going off the deep end with illud divinum insanus is another great example.
Chris Cornell - Scream.
Trent Reznor later tweeted on how much of an "embarassment" this album was for Chris.
Within Temptation - Hydra
The entire album made the guest musicians the focus of it all. Most of them don't flow with Sharon's vocals. That's what we came for.
Green Day - Father of All
The entire album is Green Day trying to top and emulate the other musicians that they were touring alongside in the upcoming Hella Mega tour, and failing at matching their style.
Disturbed honestly started getting really soft after their debut. Their debut was a masterpiece then… idk what happened lol. It turned into like pop thrash with some weird monkey noises thrown in
I loved Dangers Days I under stand the hate for it though but again I love it!!
A great example, although it's outside of rock or metal, is singer-songwriter Jewel trying to go full mainstream pop with the album "03/04".
I only knew a few of her songs at the time this came out. Even then, seeing the music video for "Intuition" is still to this day one of the biggest "WTF, this can't actually be happening" reactions I've ever had to music.
Intuition by Jewel was definitively one of the biggest WTF moments for the time. To me it still sounds like a chord progression written on an acoustic guitar. All music is chord progressions…or a lack there of. Was it a commercial failure though? Did the album sales flop? I truly don’t know.
Intuition is my favorite Jewel song. The production and video were a spoof on soulless commercialism. It was a joke that went over many heads, but at the same time it was a gutsy and artistic move. Sounds good to me.
Check out Todd in the Shadows' Trainwreckords review of this! Great channel.
It came out five months before I was born, but my choice for this category HAS to be "Hot Space" by Queen.
Danger Days is misplaced on here, as is the characterization of what fans like about MCR, as is the broad categorization of Danger Days as "more uplifting" compared to past releases. I'm married to a superfan who converted me to the fanbase, and pretty much everything that was said in that segment was completely off based on my years of being taken through MCR-land lol
Fans don't *tend* to like it the same as the other three, but they still like it a lot and a bunch of the songs from that album are some of their most beloved songs. We caught them live twice this year, and some of the most enthusiastic reactions from the crowd were from Danger Days songs. Fans still really like the aesthetic surrounding it (lots of cosplaying at the shows), and it was well-received critically, too. The concept and comics that spawned from it are popular as well.
Out of curiosity, what are you basing this opinion on? Because I could understand the argument that its not as well-liked as Three Cheers or Black Parade- it isn't, generally- but this is the first time I've ever heard the opinion that the fanbase just straight up dislikes like the album, and especially after catching a couple of the reunion shows, that claim seems pretty baseless to me.
Thanks for mentioning Motley Crue's Generation Swine album, I would add Red White & Crue too, but Saints of Los Angeles was a good listen. I liked that Turbo album from Judas Priest and that Slayer album I had no idea that was a new progressive rock, just sounded like Slayer to me, but Slayer tends to run together.
Diabulos in musica was awesome never heard anything like it, it wasn't nu metal and it wasn't thrash it was just good
"Never heard anything like it"
Well there are tons of groove metal acts that sound very much like it. Pantera being a good example
That GLOW ON in the background, top notch
I loved The Path of Totality and still do
It's interesting how trying to stay relevant can have the opposite effect on a band/album.
My big pick for a band that I like much better after a sound change, but I know a lot of fans don't, is Dir En Grey. Then again, they are one of the precious few bands I can think of that started out with a really mainstream sound, then went in a heavier and more experimental direction.
DeG only flaw is that they try so much stuff out that you never know what you'll get. But shit they do everything very well and Kyo is a beast of a vocalist!
I love everything I've heard by that band. I have not listened to their first album and EP though.
amo is a great fucking album and makes a lot of sense if you listen through all their albums chronologically. They slowly started adding in more pop/Linkin Park style songwriting even as early as There Is A Hell. I love that they don't give a fuck about "staying in their lane" and absolutely don't need to.
"Eric Hirschi" I agree. Plus, that album got me into BMTH which slowly became my 4th favourite band of all time. Don't know why it is overlooked a lot btw
@@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 Everybody has their own reasons. amo convinced me to give them another try after not being impressed by their earlier albums and now they are one of my favorite bands. Who are your other 3? I assume LP is in there somewhere.
@@erichirschi315 Other than BMTH, I like Linkin Park, Green Day, Nirvana, System Of A Down, Evanescence, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Foo Fighters, blink-182, Spiritbox, No Doubt etc
I really think danger days is super underappreciated. Its a pretty creative album honestly
Path of totality is what put life back in Korn again after trying to go back to their old sound on Remember Who You Are and failed to recapture their sound without Head. The album korn changed their sound on and failed was Untitled. At least Path of Totality had something new and peaked peoples interests unlike the previous two albums
Who is head
@@XxxXxx-br7eq Lead guitarist
Korn's Path of Totality was amazing. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise.
While I understand the criticisms of The Path of Totality and amo, I really enjoy those albums. The Path of Totality is admittedly nostalgic, though I feel it’s a solid fit for the band considering the sound of See You on the Other Side and Untitled. amo also felt like a natural direction for BMTH, think about the more poppy and electronic elements of Sempiternal and That’s the Spirit.
ngl but I kinda tried listening to BMTH's whole discography straight, and I realized that it was a teeny tiny bit obvious that by the 4th or 5th record, they were gonna sound like a completely different band. even just by suicide season, they already started incorporating little bits and styles that weren't associated with deathcore/metalcore.
Tbh I didn't like Amo at first, but it's grown on me now.
@@bumbum3751 exactly what I’m talking about. Hints of change, of amo, were there for a while.
@@DragonKnightX12 it’s a grower for sure. Even I had to get into it, though I did much faster than others bc I was in an experimental phase around that time.
Two albums that suffered at the hands of direction change that should have been included
Celtic Frost-Cold Lake
Discharge-Grave New World
Another album I'd have added would have been Metallica's Load/ReLoad when they went more hard/alternative rock, was was extremely divided against fans and critics considering the band had just come off of the absolute juggernaut that was the Black Album. Sure it was an obvious departure in style (both musically and aesthetically, considering the band totally changed their look to a more "clean-cut" vibe with shorter hair and whatnot) but they were still great albums in my opinion and gave us killer songs like Ain't My Bitch, King Nothing, Fuel, Unforgiven II, The Memory Remains and Until It Sleeps
I kinda figured he was teeing up for this in the intro when he said he wanted to focus on other albums.
Hero of the Day is one from Load I remember being great
I feel like if if you take Load and Reload, trim the weak songs off both you'd get one REALLY good album of the new alt-rock flavored style rather than 2 "ehh its alright" albums of it. You could call it Motherload, or Sh!tload if you're feeling goofy.
@@Replicaate Agreed
@@Replicaate I've always been on board with this idea. I personally would go with Fuel, The Memory Remains, Ain't My B, Hero of the Day, Until it Sleeps, The Unforgiven II, Bleeding Me, King Nothing, Wasting My Hate, Carpe Diem Baby, Low Man's Lyric, The Outlaw Torn, and Fixxxer.
The first song on that Slayer album is really badass though.
I can appreciate it when bands try new things different. I don’t appreciate it if it’s just change for the sake of laziness.
Even if these albums were misfires, they were at least bold and interesting misfires that we still talk about nonetheless.
Aw not Danger Days!!!! I feel it’s a hyper sarcastic punk album. Some of those songs are such fun to listen to!
I think Korn was just ahead of the time. Because recently there's a huge boom in EDM and Rock/Metal fusions. From the new wave of "Metalstep" artist such as Sullivan King and PhaseOne, to Dubstep collaborations left and right. Bands like Electric Callboy, BMTH, Bad Omens, I Prevail...etc that incorporate a lot of electronic elements are shooting up to the top.
Also fun fact: Jonathan Davis is heavily into EDM, in fact he was actually a DJ himself before joining Korn.
CELTIC FROST - Cherry Orchards - HOW DID YOU MISS THIS?
A lot of my friends have a weird relationship with Amo, but to me it's BMTH's best work yet. P.s I've been a fan since they started, so I like their heavy stuff too. But there's some excellent world-class songwriting in Amo which is only matched by Post human and to some extent That's the spirit (although not as much)
I love Amo, people hate so much on BMTH for that record, but i love almost all of the songs in it. I feel that metal music has a lot of purists and that’s why records with different style get shit from listeners.
The Path of Totality is fucking awesome! People let the idea of just hate the album cause it’s dubstep get in the way to actually maybe seeing that the album is fucking killer and had jams …