Looking awesome! Just add 1-4 degrees negative camber to front to get rid of that excessive understeering. 5cm stretch and softer front suspension settings would also help to get some weight to those front tires..
They need wider tires with lower pressures up front, and a tighter steering ratio (input:output) from zero he has to turn the wheel halfway before anything happens, along with longer pedal travel on throttle
That first cart is what's known as effed up on both ends! It's wicked loose in the damn straight away and really shows its ass in the corners. Now here's the really fun part kids, when he unloads it in a corner, it dumps all of the weight onto the front end and develops the push from hell! Just wow! You can hear his nervous laughter after he narrowly misses face planting the guard rail. I mean he came to a complete stop it shook him up so bad! That suspension needs to retake geometry class because what ever equation they're using is completely fooked!
Crosskart are the exception to the rule. The hairpins are so tight opposite turning and rotating with the throttle is the fastest. On any high speed track on asphalt the opposite is true.
@@WynnofThule That's because of the solid axle. Sort of like on a sport quad or sprint car, there's no differential, so sliding is the best way around a corner. It's also way more fun!
@@WynnofThule That's cool man, what class do you run? Always wanted to try a shifter out. Karts are unique because there isnt any suspension, so the entire frame flexes, lifting the inside. Crosskarts and quads do have suspension, so while the inside doesn't "lift", the weight is still transferred off of it.
I use to own a 738 lbs turbo gsx1100f 300 hp sand car w/30” paddles. 95 mph up the face of sand mtn in UT. It was terrifyingly fast. A cross kart would be epic with a built N/A 250hp busa motor, a little more wheel travel and a slightly larger tire.
Noticing on your Crosskart, the rear sprocket is huge, yet you have small wheels on it, so it is geared high, yet the speed is limited to the wheel size. Mine is the opposite, geared low with big wheels. But yours seems to be designed for speed and not difficult offroad use, mine is designed for mountain roads. This is what I really like about these builds, is you build it for your needs, as opposed to trying to buy what you think will work best for you.
Would you lower the rear upper inboard mounting point by 1/2-1 inch ? or something else ? The arms look parallel or divergent rather than forming an imaginery crossing.
Try a wider tire and rim. Should help the traction/ understeering. Also try a weighted steel plate in the front. Bolt it underneath the car in a way you can move it back and forth to find the best spot to help the weight distribution.
It's best to stay in the lowest gear possible to keep the motor in high revs and out of the mid range torque through the corners and change up the gear as you exit the corner and that will prevent too much oversteer which will increase your cornering speed.
Your cars steering is off because the front wheel Ackerman looks to be backwards I could be wrong though. I learned this in the process of building my kart I used ATV A arms and spindles
I suggest using Turf Tamer tires on the rear, that do great on pavement and loose dirt/gravel , They also SQEEL like a mutha during burnouts, FUN! FUN!
nice crosskarts, looks like you need to work on your roll centers(maybe lower them) and different length and not parallel control arm design, as you can not get full tyre contact patches while cornering... (more camber acceleration would do the job) And the front uprights or arms have problems 4:39 either something is really loose, or you need much more camber acceleration maybe some caster. Great crosskarts anyway, I wish I built one someday...
Might want to steer that thing with both hands, since there is maybe one or two gearchanges during the whole lap. Also helps to not overdo steering inputs that way.
overdo steering inputs is a massive under statement, i wanted to scream STOP TURNING THE GD WHEEL ALREADY. like holy crap your going straight leave the damn wheel alone
Had to put larger wheels in the back for sliding and traction and it's nice to have a turbo but your prototype is far too long in the race it is eating
She looks like she needs a Camber kit 1 for maximum Angle for sick drifts & also proper tow so u can get into the turns and not have to worry about the oversteer and understeer as bad I would assume just physics and many different setups of other wicked rides such as outlaw sprint cars, drift cars vehicles of the crazy over HP nature I belive once u get that dialed in just Right that's gonna be one of the coolest all around ass puckering RIP ROARING RIDE u have ever built but she is super wicked looking now video never does justace like driveing or being their in person 2 see the Ripp session 👍👍 🤘
4:54 .. You can see your right wheel looks like it is flexing a little farther than it should there. Maybe you should build some mechanical stops to keep it from turning completely flat like that.. I'm assuming you drove this trace a few times to get a feel for it.. If I would have started this track as fast as you did, I'd be terrified.. ahahah.... It looks very sketchy... for a roll over.. But I guess it stays down somehow.
@@danielssonsgarage .. Flat" ... meaning that right wheel was turned to a complete 90 degrees of the forward motion of the kart... That's why it slid and he had to brake, because he was gonna ram the rail if he didn't.. Pretty scary.. It's only lightly built, and he was pushing it's limits.
@@calholli I think you are exaggerating a bit. Also the left wheel seems to be turning the as much on the counter steer right after that. I don't know if it is the camera angle but it does look like outer wheel turns more than the inner while normally on cars it is the other way around.
@@zabnat You can put little stops on them so that they will only go so far... that way they can always have at least a slight turning arch... When they are full 90 degrees it's just not gonna work in that moment.. The wheel doesn't roll that direction. :)
@@calholli Why limit the capabilities of the vehicle when you can just learn to drive? ;) (also it was just the camera angle, the wheels turn as they are supposed to)
Try to do Less darting with the steering wheel pal try holding in toward lock an do ur steering with ur rear wheels trew throttle control get in to inside apex at the turn early and half power with small opposite lock with gradually increased power in conjunction with aducate increasing op lock in smooth manner no need for so much over corrections of ur steering . If u get both steering anx trottle just right simultaneously you'll simply start to flow from turn to turn much faster and in more control ,as less input to the steering at speed = more control try using a rally line an not a racing line too, which is all about approach and exit the strangest line trew any following corner wer possible ,start with using 1 gear higher than normal in corners but entering slightly quicker with steady power put down an synchronized with ur opposite lock exits, watch ur results in a day of trying this mate ,you can thank me later ,😊
YE its as obvious as the way a gay man talks 😅, , theres alot of panicky driver over input in newby followed by been pointed in the opposite direction ,where an experienced guy will be drifting ,texting , an watching out for the🐷🐖 effortlessly and all at once , its called skill I heard ,😂😂
This thing is my favorite thing on four wheels if a company doesn't make street legal versions of these things it'll be a travesty to humanity. At least with lower power of course.
In some video, you should do a race with a crosskart and a bike. But maybe with a penalty for the bike beacuase, I think it would be to op. Maybe just see what the difference are between a bike and a crosskart.
whats the point of the gauges if the steering wheel near completely blocks the view of every single one of them? also does this actually exist? it looks too good to be true. this has to be CG or something. (sarcasm)
On se kyllä hurja peli. :D Jos virittäjistä tulee vielä kausi niin yrittäkää päästä tuolla haastamaan Salo. :D Miten muuten tuo ahdin toimii tuossa, et onko se veto vaan siellä isoimmilla kiepeillä. Mietin jos joku haluaisi rakentaa radalle jotain vastaavankaltaista niin onko pallo vai remmi fiksumpi vaihtoehto ahtamiseen.
Always deamt of building something like that! would probably go for a 600cc though... Also great Kimi Raikkonen reference! Gotta take your hat off to the Iceman himself hahah xD
Toyota is the real joke over 10 models needed to be recalled?! For throttle issues, that doesn't make me want to go buy a vehicle that puts me or my family in harm's way do some research before making uninformed comments like that just saying
This is like the ultimate 4 wheeler for having fun!
JuhisRacing the build quality on the cross carts is amateur. Look at the drakart Superlite
It is!
Looking awesome! Just add 1-4 degrees negative camber to front to get rid of that excessive understeering.
5cm stretch and softer front suspension settings would also help to get some weight to those front tires..
have a look at 4.56-4.57 it looks like theres some flex in the steering somwhere, or is that normal on these things?
Would been nice to see the other driver take laps with turbokart
Sweet! Crosscart gets some tracktime. But yeah,.. that 750 has much thicker, "safer" looking pipes.
They seem to go from massive understeer to massive oversteer in a split second, lol.
Ya working a lot
Judge jimbo Browntown yeah, I reckon you'd feel it after a few laps!
They definitly do on Dirt Rally 2.0!
You mean: "Sounds exciting."
They need wider tires with lower pressures up front, and a tighter steering ratio (input:output) from zero he has to turn the wheel halfway before anything happens, along with longer pedal travel on throttle
The most pure kind of racing that there is!
Wow three hundred horses sounds just about right for the amount of fun we mean to achieve 😀 witch is Tons
That first cart is what's known as effed up on both ends! It's wicked loose in the damn straight away and really shows its ass in the corners. Now here's the really fun part kids, when he unloads it in a corner, it dumps all of the weight onto the front end and develops the push from hell! Just wow! You can hear his nervous laughter after he narrowly misses face planting the guard rail. I mean he came to a complete stop it shook him up so bad! That suspension needs to retake geometry class because what ever equation they're using is completely fooked!
Suspension & weight balancing makes all the difference.
You know you’re going fast when most of the time the steering wheel is turned opposite of the way you are turning 😂
Crosskart are the exception to the rule. The hairpins are so tight opposite turning and rotating with the throttle is the fastest. On any high speed track on asphalt the opposite is true.
@@WynnofThule That's because of the solid axle. Sort of like on a sport quad or sprint car, there's no differential, so sliding is the best way around a corner. It's also way more fun!
@@BunkerBlog I do sprint karts. Lifting the inside is the name of the game.
@@WynnofThule That's cool man, what class do you run? Always wanted to try a shifter out. Karts are unique because there isnt any suspension, so the entire frame flexes, lifting the inside. Crosskarts and quads do have suspension, so while the inside doesn't "lift", the weight is still transferred off of it.
@@BunkerBlog I do Junior, X30 and rotax.
The 750 looks like so much fun - wow.
I use to own a 738 lbs turbo gsx1100f 300 hp sand car w/30” paddles. 95 mph up the face of sand mtn in UT. It was terrifyingly fast.
A cross kart would be epic with a built N/A 250hp busa motor, a little more wheel travel and a slightly larger tire.
that VF1 kart looks so clean
It's a VF1, the 750 then I was just looking for this in comments.
It's cool to see where the tires are biting in on the asphalt after coming off the dirt.
Noticing on your Crosskart, the rear sprocket is huge, yet you have small wheels on it, so it is geared high, yet the speed is limited to the wheel size. Mine is the opposite, geared low with big wheels. But yours seems to be designed for speed and not difficult offroad use, mine is designed for mountain roads. This is what I really like about these builds, is you build it for your needs, as opposed to trying to buy what you think will work best for you.
AWESOME! The 750 was also "more aerodynamic" so to me, they are about equal!
2 second difference in 30 seconds is astronomical
Rear roll center is too high on your turbo kart, lower it and stiffer the shocks to balance.
Would you lower the rear upper inboard mounting point by 1/2-1 inch ? or something else ? The arms look parallel or divergent rather than forming an imaginery crossing.
@@BeamRider100 hard to tell from a video, i'd do it simple way first, taller tyres, shorter shocks, same ride height, test from there.
I saw at least 260+ km/h on the speedo nice hahahaha ;). Very cool machine!
MrTe450 wheelspin
It's also geared much lower than the bike. So speedo can say 260, i bet it much lower actual speed. It still is a lot of wheel spin tho😁
It is obvious that this speedo is not accurate anymore guys haha
70mph max in this video.
Try a wider tire and rim. Should help the traction/ understeering. Also try a weighted steel plate in the front. Bolt it underneath the car in a way you can move it back and forth to find the best spot to help the weight distribution.
The turbo crosskart need larger tyres, too much torque and power. Answome video guys!
It's best to stay in the lowest gear possible to keep the motor in high revs and out of the mid range torque through the corners and change up the gear as you exit the corner and that will prevent too much oversteer which will increase your cornering speed.
“It not Toyota so it F@@in sucks” lmao had me rolling
Loved the Kimi reference LMAO !
😱😍 I LOVE the front mud guards move with the wheels on the 750😍😱😍😍😍👍👍👍👍
That looks like a ton of fun!
Your cars steering is off because the front wheel Ackerman looks to be backwards I could be wrong though. I learned this in the process of building my kart I used ATV A arms and spindles
Nice video, put anti-lag on the turbo kart and that time should come down. Just listening to the engines you know they are built different
I suggest using Turf Tamer tires on the rear, that do great on pavement and loose dirt/gravel , They also SQEEL like a mutha during burnouts, FUN! FUN!
nice crosskarts, looks like you need to work on your roll centers(maybe lower them) and different length and not parallel control arm design, as you can not get full tyre contact patches while cornering... (more camber acceleration would do the job) And the front uprights or arms have problems 4:39 either something is really loose, or you need much more camber acceleration maybe some caster. Great crosskarts anyway, I wish I built one someday...
My good god! Take my money where can I find one in Canada!! 🤤🤤🤤🤤
I think the speedometer needs calibrating :)
amazing isnt it. im near 40 and even worse now for speed thani ever was, now i can afford to do the things i dreamed of as a youth.
I’m the same. 😁
Same lol
are there any blueprints etc for these frames?
You have a crosskart speedcar to go by why not build you a frame just like it and put your engine in it ?
Look like you need a faster steering ratio in the busa kart. A lot more direction change per input on the other kart.
Might want to steer that thing with both hands, since there is maybe one or two gearchanges during the whole lap. Also helps to not overdo steering inputs that way.
overdo steering inputs is a massive under statement, i wanted to scream STOP TURNING THE GD WHEEL ALREADY. like holy crap your going straight leave the damn wheel alone
I've watched you guys for a long time but where's the track and stunt freak's location is ???
I need that 750 in my life.
Build it
How has nobody asked about the summer moped T-shirt??? How do I get one???
Check the description. It will take u to their website
This is just orgazm to my ears. I would SO use it as a drift kart
I was thinking WTF is those single numbers on top off the dash on the left LOL Very cool tells ya what gear your in 🤣😂😁 Ive never seen that before
Had to put larger wheels in the back for sliding and traction and it's nice to have a turbo but your prototype is far too long in the race it is eating
LFa what? 🤔
She looks like she needs a Camber kit 1 for maximum Angle for sick drifts & also proper tow so u can get into the turns and not have to worry about the oversteer and understeer as bad I would assume just physics and many different setups of other wicked rides such as outlaw sprint cars, drift cars vehicles of the crazy over HP nature I belive once u get that dialed in just Right that's gonna be one of the coolest all around ass puckering RIP ROARING RIDE u have ever built but she is super wicked looking now video never does justace like driveing or being their in person 2 see the Ripp session 👍👍 🤘
You guys need more rubber on those, you could do some epic Sprint car wheelies!
What size is rear sprocket?
Subbed. Just found you guys. Awesome.
"This has been a great day: Nothing is broken..." 😂
4:54 .. You can see your right wheel looks like it is flexing a little farther than it should there. Maybe you should build some mechanical stops to keep it from turning completely flat like that.. I'm assuming you drove this trace a few times to get a feel for it.. If I would have started this track as fast as you did, I'd be terrified.. ahahah.... It looks very sketchy... for a roll over.. But I guess it stays down somehow.
Flat? I think you get fooled by the wide angle
@@danielssonsgarage .. Flat" ... meaning that right wheel was turned to a complete 90 degrees of the forward motion of the kart... That's why it slid and he had to brake, because he was gonna ram the rail if he didn't.. Pretty scary.. It's only lightly built, and he was pushing it's limits.
@@calholli I think you are exaggerating a bit. Also the left wheel seems to be turning the as much on the counter steer right after that. I don't know if it is the camera angle but it does look like outer wheel turns more than the inner while normally on cars it is the other way around.
@@zabnat You can put little stops on them so that they will only go so far... that way they can always have at least a slight turning arch... When they are full 90 degrees it's just not gonna work in that moment.. The wheel doesn't roll that direction. :)
@@calholli Why limit the capabilities of the vehicle when you can just learn to drive? ;) (also it was just the camera angle, the wheels turn as they are supposed to)
Wow, you got to be on that steering wheel a the time!
Try to do Less darting with the steering wheel pal try holding in toward lock an do ur steering with ur rear wheels trew throttle control get in to inside apex at the turn early and half power with small opposite lock with gradually increased power in conjunction with aducate increasing op lock in smooth manner no need for so much over corrections of ur steering . If u get both steering anx trottle just right simultaneously you'll simply start to flow from turn to turn much faster and in more control ,as less input to the steering at speed = more control try using a rally line an not a racing line too, which is all about approach and exit the strangest line trew any following corner wer possible ,start with using 1 gear higher than normal in corners but entering slightly quicker with steady power put down an synchronized with ur opposite lock exits, watch ur results in a day of trying this mate ,you can thank me later ,😊
I couldn't agree more. You can really tell an experienced drifter over a noob just by listening to the engine and watching their hands on the wheel.
YE its as obvious as the way a gay man talks 😅, , theres alot of panicky driver over input in newby followed by been pointed in the opposite direction ,where an experienced guy will be drifting ,texting , an watching out for the🐷🐖 effortlessly and all at once , its called skill I heard ,😂😂
Put the 750's wheels and tires on the 'busa kart.
This thing is my favorite thing on four wheels if a company doesn't make street legal versions of these things it'll be a travesty to humanity. At least with lower power of course.
1:25 Sounds like Group B
13:44 sounds like it too. lol
Man you need a sway bar on that for sure
Are Thoes dirt bike front forks for the rear suspension?? If not I just have myself an idea 💡
I wanna know how you got your gear indicator to stay working. Mime worked for 5 minutes then looses track of the gears
Why not put bigger tires on the turbo crosskart. Make some use of the extra power.
Now we need to know which is the fastest on gravel, Can- Am Maveric X3 Turbo, Crosskart or Rallycross Supercar.
The steering ratio might seem slow but I think it's because he's trying to correct wheel spin.
I've got a Rotax kart.. But I'd rather a cross kart. Same driving... Violent experience with a grin.
i would aim for better handeling and suspension! if you manage to get that hp down to the ground, you will be faster, and thats a fact.
Onk kukaa suomalainen kattomassa?
Looks so fun I’m jealous
In some video, you should do a race with a crosskart and a bike. But maybe with a penalty for the bike beacuase, I think it would be to op. Maybe just see what the difference are between a bike and a crosskart.
On a track bike is slower than a car
Makes me wanna play Mario kart.
whats the point of the gauges if the steering wheel near completely blocks the view of every single one of them?
also does this actually exist? it looks too good to be true. this has to be CG or something.
(sarcasm)
Oisko mitenkää mahollist järkätä polttarit nii et ainakin polttarisankari pääsis ajaan jotaki noist teidä crosskarteist?
Ota fbs yhteyttä niin saattaa vastata nopeemmin
Hei. Hieno video. Näetkö crosskartin rungon koon? Haluan kokoontua.
Maybe soften up the front a touch.
Which country is better/ more beautiful to ride enduro, Finnland 🇫🇮 or Sweden 🇸🇪?
Finland👍🇫🇮
Finland🇫🇮
Finland🇫🇮
Sweden
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What's the rear sprocket from on the turbo kart?
What defines a "crosscart"? They're so cool, kinda want to build one, but...dunno what makes em count.
Nissan d40 have bad frames, rust thru them quickly. mine did, 2006.
also engine is not that great, change the timing chain!
not to mention a ZD30 is absolute junk and they love to shit transfers when you load them up
To make it an actual test the pro should have also driven the hyabusa.
Nytte oot oikeilla jälillä juuu
Toyota👌🏻😘❤❤👌🏻👍🏻
Great driving. Looks fun.
put some race tires on it . hoosier flat track 18x 10-10 was a game changer on my crosscart
Kimi pole!! RAIKKONEN!! RAIKKONEN!!
Good morning, do you need a video editor?
Turning right to go left is so confusing to me, I doubt I could ever get the hang of drifting.
You can get wicked audio without wind noise
ターボが良かったのでしょうか？
3:48 vetarin sisempi suojakumi kannattais vaihtaa :)
Put ski`s instead of front tires and tracks in the rear on the turbo cart!
On se kyllä hurja peli. :D Jos virittäjistä tulee vielä kausi niin yrittäkää päästä tuolla haastamaan Salo. :D Miten muuten tuo ahdin toimii tuossa, et onko se veto vaan siellä isoimmilla kiepeillä. Mietin jos joku haluaisi rakentaa radalle jotain vastaavankaltaista niin onko pallo vai remmi fiksumpi vaihtoehto ahtamiseen.
How fast is the pro driver in the busa kart?
You must revise rear and front geometry and camber
Always deamt of building something like that! would probably go for a 600cc though... Also great Kimi Raikkonen reference! Gotta take your hat off to the Iceman himself hahah xD
steering wheel!!! heey!!! kimi the boss!!!
well done, looks good runs awesome.
How is this possible first you were jumping on Kangasala where i live and now driving on my local track where i race???!!!
Donate wls
Race these two against grind hard plumbings odessy and carsandcameras crosskart
I vote carsandcameras' mower
@@WASTED__POTENTIAL that thing was a death trap 😄 fast as hell tho. They got lucky when it flipped
Just one hand steering on this thing. Good
Awesome power and speed...I need one !!! Lol..
Toyota is the real joke over 10 models needed to be recalled?! For throttle issues, that doesn't make me want to go buy a vehicle that puts me or my family in harm's way do some research before making uninformed comments like that just saying
I think with a little more meat on the tires that 1300 would hook up way faster....
Need wider tires and they also need to be sticky.
Awesome!!
This was terrifying..
😂👌