Reverse culture shock. American vs. Italian way

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  • @manuelfantoni5258
    @manuelfantoni5258 Рік тому +3

    Vado in controtendenza e dico che secondo me è un bene che gli avvocati non pubblicizzino se stessi. Non solo per una questione di lesione della dignità professionale (la mercificazione della difesa tecnica: il difensore da noi è visto come un co-celebrante del rito giudiziario, una specie di diacono) ma anche per evitare un possibile abuso della azione giudiziaria, che potrebbe altrimenti essere volta ad ottenere più un "guadagno" che una affermazione di diritto.
    In Italia il processo è più rito religioso che duello, al contrario del mondo anglosassone.
    Mie considerazioni altamente personali, che mi rendo conto possano essere altrettanto opinabili.
    Salute!

  • @bartonone2005
    @bartonone2005 Рік тому +3

    👍 Salute, Davide!! After graduating from Uni in 1972, I decided to give myself the Grand Tour of Western Europe. I traveled for three months and visited 20 cities and towns in 10 countries. It was the trip of a lifetime and the first of seven crossings I eventually made over the Atlantic. Like a duck to water, I took to Europe, especially Italy, being Italo-Americano. It was only when I returned home that I felt strangely out of place. After all, I was only gone for three months. The food was so different, as well as the coffee, chocolate and bread. And the fast pace, which I hadn't noticed before, drove me crazy. All I wanted was to move to Europe. Unfortunately, life got in the way and that dream was never realized. But I tell myself, everything happened the way it was supposed to. I applaud you for busting a move and making a life for yourself in Italy. Buona fortuna a voi e alla vostra famiglia!!
    Chuck in Northern New England

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Chuck ! I know, realize that most people probably aren’t cut out for moving to a different country and if I had had more tangible and also emotional assets in the US, I may not have moved here. But at age 29 I really had nothing holding me back, so it was the perfect time to go. I can relate very well with filling out a place every time I came back from Italy. Finally, I realized the only solution was to come and live here to satisfy my curiosity.

  • @maniscalcane
    @maniscalcane 4 роки тому +14

    The weirdest thing to me when visiting America is that there is not an actual piazza or via or city center where you can just go to have a stroll and do some people watching, at least not in the italian kind of way I am accustomed to. I mean you can go the mall or the beach but still.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +9

      HA! this reminds me of the first time I took my wife to see my town in Connecticut. I said, ok this is the centro. She thought I was kidding!

    • @maniscalcane
      @maniscalcane 4 роки тому +2

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly 😂 p.s. great content, thanks for your videos 💪🏼

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +2

      @@maniscalcane Awesome, I appreciate that!

    • @ChiaraDBrown
      @ChiaraDBrown 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely...when I got back from Italy for the first time I felt so bereft that there was no piazza to go to.

  • @MrJonreed7
    @MrJonreed7 4 роки тому +13

    Fun video. I can imagine your wife's horror at the Italian food here in the U.S. I can't wait to return to normal so I can re-visit a trip to Italy. Ciao!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      I wish I had a pic of her face! I also can't wait for tourism to come back here!

  • @DavidsDoseofItaly
    @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +6

    Have YOU ever experienced reverse or ANY kind of culture shock? I love reading these kinds of stories!

  • @tinag7381
    @tinag7381 4 роки тому +8

    Another good one! I didn't even think twice about seeing cashiers in grocery stores in Italy that were sitting. It's a smart idea!
    I love that about Italy that one doesn't have to tip after a meal! Regarding salad dressing. I grew up thinking I needed all these different kinds of dressings but not since traveling to Italy as often as I have. I only use olive oil and vinegar. That's it and it saves money☆

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      Actually they tend to stand quite often, but at least they have the option to sit if they want to. After my sentence was over as a cashier at said home improvement store, I was having some problems with my hips. I was also quite hungry while working. Yeah, it’s interesting what we considered “Italian salad dressing”. We also mainly use oil and vinegar too. Thank you Tina!

  • @straytenwhitenormell7759
    @straytenwhitenormell7759 3 роки тому +1

    In Europe, each municipality has a very large, vacant 'town square' in the center of it where pedestrians gather -- no cars/driving/parking exists inside of it.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Yeah that seems to be lacking where I’m from in the USA.

  • @Aleks91Me
    @Aleks91Me 3 роки тому +3

    The code of ethics of Italian lawyers prevents us from advertising ourselves. Article 17 only allows us to inform customers about the services we offer (for example our professional titles or our specializations).

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      I see. Thank you for the information

    • @doughoward6401
      @doughoward6401 3 роки тому

      My wife and I are retired and own our home in southern california , and are tired of not being able to breath the air , ect and are thinking of emigrating to Italy . Are there immigration lawyers in Italy that can help us ??

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      I’m not sure really. I have no experience in this matter. Do check if there is a visa for retirees or maybe if the permesso di soggiorno is a possibility for you.
      You can also ask this question on expat Facebook groups or on sites like quora and reddit. I hope that helps even just a little bit ! Let me know how you make out and good luck

  • @paolocarpi4769
    @paolocarpi4769 4 роки тому +2

    The main, historical reason you can't see commercials about lawyers is that, until some time ago, it was forbidden by law for some kind of professionals to publicly promote their activity.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hi Paolo. Oh interesting. I didn’t know that. Thank you. I wonder if we’re going to start seeing them now

    • @paolocarpi4769
      @paolocarpi4769 4 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly I think we'll not see anything soon. I believe lawyers, like infamous category of "notai", and MD by the way, consider demeaning promote themselves in this way.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@paolocarpi4769 Really? Why would they consider that demeaning?

    • @paolocarpi4769
      @paolocarpi4769 4 роки тому

      ​@@DavidsDoseofItaly Because in Italian culture the status of those professional categories (categorie professionali) is somewhat peculiar, I don't want to say "higher than normal people" because it is not, but they stand apart. Medical doctors, "notai," judges and prosecutors have a public servant-kind of role: "lo Stato", as the nation administrative structure, gives them powers to do thing than normal beings can't do and you know, lol, with great powers comes great responsibilities. They must behave honorably and should not commodify (I don't know if that english term is right... I mean: "mercificare") their services: the "notaio" can attest you do exists (!), the MD can prescribe you medicines that let you live, the prosecutor and the judge can put you in jail, the lawyer can put you off the idea to live...

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      @@paolocarpi4769 Ah ok that makes sense. Commodify, sure that makes sense or you can say sell themselves out. I have seen this idea here in Italy of how your dignity and your sense of existing is tied into your trade and what you do in life. Of course this is not only an Italian concept, but it is strong here.

  • @sergyxyz
    @sergyxyz 3 роки тому +2

    A few years ago I met an American friend in the country where I live (SE Asia). We did have some very deep talks previously and so once she saw me she asked me “how are you?” I was having a bit of a tough time and feeling like she was a friend I told her only 2 minutes of things that I was going through (I was fired from my job basically). After I finished to tell her my things, she tried to avoid any further conversation and, with a very “oh my god let’s get outta here” she said: Okay, have a good evening my friend!
    After that time I realised that when an American (and any other English speaking country) ask you ‘how are you” they never actually mean unless you’re very close and on an intimate situations. The difference is that Italians might not ask you how are you on a hourly basis, but when they do, they actually mean it.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Thank you for sharing your story. Yes, I agree. too often in the States I hear "how are you" used a bit superficially and not in a sincere way. But as I mention in the video, it's routine so you need to take it with a grain of salt. A real friend, and this is the same anywhere, will be more a listener than someone who talks just to hear their own voice.

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz 3 роки тому

    8:44 which is why I don't go to museums in the summer. I always try to keep my indoor shopping trips short in the summer as well for the same reason

  • @andyvivi3899
    @andyvivi3899 4 роки тому +3

    My grandmother was from Tuscany and she has always cooked tagliatelle with meatballs since the 70s. The recipe had been given to her by a Sicilian lady and it was a typical dish of her village. Perhaps the "spaghetti whit meatballs" proper are actually an Italian-American dish, but pasta with meatballs is a dish that you find in many central-southern regions.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hello ! Sounds yummy! You know there are always exceptions to everything, so I am sure there are plenty of families that do mix spaghetti and meatballs. Personally, I'd eat it!

    • @stefanopassa7027
      @stefanopassa7027 4 роки тому +2

      first of all, sauce is usually made with meatballs,
      then the meatballs are served as a second course
      there are some regions where pasta is made with meatballs, but they are very small, and this recipe is never found in restaurants

    • @michelangelovittucci1885
      @michelangelovittucci1885 4 роки тому +2

      Most of the time we make meatball just to recycle spare meat cut, grinded and mixed together. But ,if you need them in order to cook a pasta sauce, just put em in the pan grinded and cook a Ragù. If you wanna try something more refined , use ribs instead of meatball and cook em in the tomato sauce with just a touch of olive oil and salt , maybe you can add a carrot and an onion chopped in big chunks. (Cook the meat till it easily fall of the bone).

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the idea! My grandma used to make something similar

    • @stefanopassa7027
      @stefanopassa7027 4 роки тому +1

      @@michelangelovittucci1885 even 2 sausages are fine

  • @carolinagandolfo8713
    @carolinagandolfo8713 4 роки тому +1

    Oh, my gosh! We should do an exchange call haha so many cultural shocks. Mi piacciono i tuoi video. Bravo! :)

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hi Carolina! Carolina is the Italian version of my mom's name which she loves. What do you mean by an exchange call? grazie per il complimento, spero ti piaceranno i miei futuri video :).

  • @michelevendramin3345
    @michelevendramin3345 4 роки тому +1

    Ice bags are for sale here too, I see them all the time at the supermarkets I go to. I love mac&cheese!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      I have never seen them here! I don't deny though that they do exist here in Italy but I remain convinced that they are not a part of mainstream Italian culture. Is it popular in Veneto because Spritz is so popular? I can guarantee you Mike that you wouldn't like mac&cheese in the USA and the ways it gets prepared. But, to each their own

    • @sarelito9202
      @sarelito9202 4 роки тому +1

      It's a pretty recent thing, though. Not really part of the culture yet despite the warm weather, except for in the form of flavoured crushed ice in the summer, from a stall. People mostly drink plain water without ice or refrigerated drinks. Ice is mostly used in cold coffee and alcoholic drinks, except for beer and wine. There doesn't seem to be the same craving for ice that you have in the US.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@sarelito9202 Yeah, we're obsessed with it!

  • @DrSAM69
    @DrSAM69 4 роки тому +3

    Well in bars and buffets you can find precooked pasta but its usually simple sauces that can be quickly reheated or maybe pasta salads usually eaten during summer.
    Your wife's shock was mostly seeing cold precooked tortellini served as a salad ingredient... seeing stuffed egg pasta like ravioli or tortellini in a salad freaks us out, it's like mixing a salad with a cold lasagna.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hi Stefano! I don’t know if I’ve ever had stuffed egg pasta tbh. But hold on, what is wrong with putting cheese in ravioli? Just the other day I had ravioli with spinach and ricotta.
      A salad and a lasagna together?? No thanks!

  • @giuseppedileo8429
    @giuseppedileo8429 4 роки тому +6

    I recently moved from Rome to Quebec City which it's not exactly USA but there's some common north american traits and I experienced all of your shocks. Yes, the fake smile of the waitresses always creeps me out and I can't stop thinking stuff like "ok girl, I am obliged to tip you. Please stop fillin my glass of water and give me some privacy. You are going to have my money anyways" 😂

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Giuseppe. You must be cold ! I have a friend, born and raised in Montreal to Sicilian parents. She constantly asks them why they didn’t choose a warmer climate !!
      Oh yes I forgot about that. The constant refilling of ice water. At least they don’t let us go thirsty

    • @giuseppedileo8429
      @giuseppedileo8429 4 роки тому +3

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly yeah the cold it's inhuman here but they keep selling ice bags everywhere 😂.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      😜😜🙃

  • @fabiomaniscalco5635
    @fabiomaniscalco5635 4 роки тому

    Hey, your explanation about differences between Italy and USA is quite interesting and I appreciate your neutral point of view. In one of your videos, sometime you also briefly refer to internal differences in your country. I mean differences existing from state to state of US (and that's normal because your country is so big). I guess it would be interesting having a short outline about this topic. Thank you.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hey Fabio and thank you for the kind words ! I’ll try to keep this neutral point of view because it’s not good to judge when you haven’t got the facts. I think a video on the difference between states would be a tad off topic for my channel. But I appreciate the suggestion.

  • @gabri2734
    @gabri2734 4 роки тому +12

    Incredibile come ti cambia la voce quando passi dall"inglese all'italiano

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      Grazie ! Non sei né il primo né l’ultimo a dirmi questo

  • @paolagrando5079
    @paolagrando5079 3 роки тому +1

    Reverse culture shock between the UK and Italy. The inability of forming a decent queue drives me up the walls. Not even now with 2 years of Covid ...

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Are you referring to the Italians? Yeah, they often cluster instead of forming a straight horizontal or vertical line.

    • @paolagrando5079
      @paolagrando5079 3 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly Yep, too many Italians don't see the logic and order of waiting in line.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Nope. they don't. Una cosa esagerata they must think.

    • @tinalettieri
      @tinalettieri Рік тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly It's more social, ahaha. And COVID? What's COVID? I was in Sicily in 2020 and Sicily and Napoli in 2021. Everyone was ignoring mask mandates if they could and kissing and hugging total strangers. I'm unvaxxed, in my seventies and didn't get sick, but I sure loved those hugs and cheek kisses.

  • @iiEnIgMaii
    @iiEnIgMaii 4 роки тому +3

    Never been to USA yet, hopefully next year, that tipping culture scares me already haha

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      No!! Don’t worry ! Just leave 20% and only in restaurants and bars. If they don’t like the tip , it’s not like you’ll see them again.

  • @ptrs559
    @ptrs559 4 роки тому +1

    Frozen meatballs are sold in many mega supermarkets in Italy but are more Swedish style from Ikea or similar companies often made from horse meat. As far as cooked pasta being sold that would only be as pasta salad. To be sure more often made at home. And mostly by the young. The older generation of Italians are aghast at the concept of that particular dish. Somewhat more common is rice salad, a cold rice dish with vegetables. It is called Greek rice by the Italians. I have yet to see the connection with anything Greek but that is what it’s called.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      I’ve never seen (meatballs) to be honest and I don’t think they’ll catch on anytime soon! I’ve also never heard of the Greek salad. My experiences are from Rome and Southern Italy, so I think we can assume that we’re bound to find culinary differences between these places and the North.

  • @1977Timp
    @1977Timp 4 роки тому +1

    Could you please explain me why you need bags of ice? You can plan for it..

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +2

      I think it's because Americans want as much convenience as possible. The mentality is why take the time to prepare ice when I can just buy it in bulk? It's also easy to buy and bring it right to your house immediately for a BBQ for example.

  • @Davearmstrong42
    @Davearmstrong42 3 роки тому

    I will start with AC… i prefer 55f degrees so sorrento in october is hot to me. But I love Italy… for the most part, I feel I align with the culture better than here in Wi. Italy is my true hearts home… but I want AC

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Oh yeah. Summer for me lasts from late May to well into October. What is it that you like about the culture here in Italy? Don't worry, Italy has kept up with the times and you can easily find homes with AC. I am using mine as I type this. Although, if you had to live in a place without it, simply open everything up in the morning, shut everything during late morning and open everything up again in the evening. My grandma did that and the idea is to keep the sun out.

  • @stefanogabrielli7130
    @stefanogabrielli7130 4 роки тому +1

    In US I was surprised seeing tons of beer on refrigerated shelves at the supermarket 😄

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Now that I think about it beer isn’t normally sold cold here unless you stop by somewhere along the street like a bar or kebab place

    • @larsjohansson660
      @larsjohansson660 3 роки тому +1

      Itvis as well in switzerland. Then you can buy it and drink it on the train or at the park or at the lake.

  • @diegomarchesan8838
    @diegomarchesan8838 4 роки тому +1

    Hi! Actually, we sell ice bags, maybe not as much as in the USA.
    Near my house there's a vending machine selling ice bags.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Cool! Can I surmise that you are from Veneto? The last name seems to be an indication!

    • @diegomarchesan8838
      @diegomarchesan8838 4 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly no, I'm not. I'm from Friuli Venezia-Giulia.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      I was close !

  • @ImissSaganCarl
    @ImissSaganCarl 4 роки тому +1

    The tipping culture in Canada and the U.S. exists because the restaurants don't pay them what they should be paid. The onus should be on the restaurants to pay waitresses and waiters a decent salary, not on the customer to subsidize their meager salary.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      I agree. I tip because it's not the waitstaff's fault that they are forced to essentially get the bulk of their income off of their tips. But in the video I touch upon a deeper issue which is that in North America the tip is assumed and the idea of it being given as a bonus for good service has gone out the window.

  • @luckyfil006
    @luckyfil006 3 роки тому +1

    People are paid a decent salary in Europe. They are not expected to rely on tips to give them a living wage.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +2

      Decent yes but here in Italy some salaries are too low. I ask myself how one can support a family on say 900€ a month.

    • @luckyfil006
      @luckyfil006 3 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly you are right. I've seen that in Sicily.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +1

      @@luckyfil006 The trap with a lot of Italian salaries is that you could potentially end up in low paying job but with a decent contract. It's never an easy decision.

  • @NotesOfBoredom
    @NotesOfBoredom 4 роки тому

    The only reverse culture shock I have is the weather...
    First day...aww the sound of the rain outside...magical...
    Second day...aww...
    Third day - basta - going home soon 😂
    I don't miss anything tbh...looking at your next recommended video..
    Only tip for coffee here.. 5c - anything else wouldn't go down well....

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hi Alex. Where do you hail from ?

    • @NotesOfBoredom
      @NotesOfBoredom 4 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly North England - I'm a Border Reiver ...half-English/Scottish - sheep rustlers for about 600 years but I'm making an honest woman of myself now teaching English near to Naples after a year teaching in Beijing - thank you for the videos - I'm really enjoying them all..
      Buon weekend e buona domenica

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@NotesOfBoredom hi Alex!! Thank you for watching
      my other videos ! Where exactly are you now? I lived in napoli for two years. Which students do you prefer, Italians or Chinese ?

  • @SarahWheeleeTravels
    @SarahWheeleeTravels 3 роки тому +1

    Reverse culture shock is tough

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +2

      It is. But if you’re only visiting it’s bearable

    • @SarahWheeleeTravels
      @SarahWheeleeTravels 3 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly yes visiting makes it bearable. When you move move. It takes you out. My friends who have returned home from years abroad, it took us all at least a year to readapt

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      @@SarahWheeleeTravels Also linguistically?

    • @SarahWheeleeTravels
      @SarahWheeleeTravels 3 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly yes in a weird way. I was speaking very differently and I didn’t understand a lot of the slang. And it was like the volume was turned up because I was so used to conversation around me being in Chinese, so when it was all English my brain thought everyone was speaking to me. Lol

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +1

      @@SarahWheeleeTravels that is an interesting observation and I never thought of it that way. A huge public conversation 😅. Yeah when I go back I say to myself “I understand everything. Damn! This is too easy !”
      I miss hearing American children speaking English too.

  • @J.Devesh
    @J.Devesh 3 роки тому

    I've been in the USA three times for work (Los Angeles, New York and Las Vegas) and I really appreciated that the supermarkets are open until late or sometimes 24/24. Moreover, they often sell also medicines, something that is not that common in Italy.
    Let's see, another reverse culture shock... Well UBER for instance, or the widespread of wi-fi connections (but if I'm not wrong, here in Italy we have less expensive mobile data plans) or the beverage dispensers in fast foods for the refill.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +3

      Hi Giacomo. Curiously what medicines are available in the USA but not in Italy ?
      Oh yes UBER was and is a big problem in Rome. I felt for the Union taxi drivers here to be honest. They spend hundreds of thousands of euros on their license and then all of a sudden this private company comes in and cuts into their livelihood.

    • @J.Devesh
      @J.Devesh 3 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly well in Italy (or at least in the north of Italy) it's not possible to buy for instance ibuprofen medicines like Tachipirina without the assistance of a pharmacist even in supermarkets!
      When I was in NY instead, I got a flu the second day of my stay and I was able to buy Vicks Flu Action at 11PM without any problem! It was available in the shelf like every other product.
      Yep, the TAXI licences situation is not simple in Italy and should be better handled by the government!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +1

      @@J.Devesh My go to medicine for headaches is moment act. Ibuprofen in the States is sold over the counter too

  • @1977Timp
    @1977Timp 4 роки тому

    Salad dressing what?! I can picture her face lol.. I was surprised too ,🤣

  • @lorenzosalvioni5905
    @lorenzosalvioni5905 4 роки тому +2

    guardando i tuoi video ho capito quanta differenza c'è tra il nostro paese e gli USA; sei mai stato in citta al nord italia (milano, bergamo, torino, venezia..)? sono molto differenti da roma e napoli!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      Si certo. Sono stato diverse volte in Veneto, una volta a Milano, ho studiato a Firenze e poi due anni fa siamo stati in Trentino. Siamo rimasti molto contenti della nostra scelta di andarci e abbiamo tantissima volta di tornare! Mi sarebbe piaciuto abitare un anno o due a Nord perche, come avrai capito, le mie esperienze in Italia le ho fatte da Roma in giù. Poi sono anche di origine Campana. Grazie per aver visto i miei video!

    • @lorenzosalvioni5905
      @lorenzosalvioni5905 4 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly great! I am subscribed

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@lorenzosalvioni5905 thank you and welcome!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@ProfumoDiSanremo davvero ? Trovo interessante che recepisci questo mio desiderio di vivere in un altro posto fuori Roma. Però c’è anche da apprezzare qui e poi qui siamo al centro del paese, quindi geograficamente è un vantaggio

  • @lorrainemoynehan6791
    @lorrainemoynehan6791 3 роки тому +1

    I'm neither American or Italian, but I find many, well actually most of your observations are European v American, and I'd also include Australian and NZ in the European part. Sadly I feel America has lost a respect for the dignity of workers. I honestly feel expecting cashiers to stand is a form of punishment. There is no other reason, it is significantly less effective

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +2

      Hi. Yes, I make comparisons based on what is familiar to me. I do too. I feel that capitalism, while certainly not an evil in and of itself, is the underlying cause for worker mistreatment. It's a system that tends to take the human equation out of a business and puts more focus on money and how to make more and more of it. I also feel that workers rights are protected better here. I protested the fact that I had to stand for hours and hours. I don't entirely agree that a cashier sitting down gives you the idea that they appear unprofessional. Sure you can look more casual sitting down but really, I don't even react anymore when I see cashiers sitting down here. I've gotten so used to it and my soul just tells me, "what's the way it should be".

    • @lorrainemoynehan6791
      @lorrainemoynehan6791 3 роки тому +2

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly I totally agree with you, but, here's the rub, cashiers in supermarkets are quicker when sitting down. It may be capitalism but it isn't effective..its punishment or those they choose not to respect. There are many things I like about America but near fetish adoration of wealth and the dismissal of poor is quite frankly alarming, yet the country is rammed with the most kind generous people. I just don't get it

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      @@lorrainemoynehan6791 I do. It’s a huge country so it houses many different types of people. I’ve met wonderful hard working people and also the dregs of society. But it’s like anywhere.
      Yeah standing up needlessly is inhumane. Cashiers stand up here but it’s cuz they want to and they always have a chair at their disposal

  • @geneschmidt8308
    @geneschmidt8308 3 роки тому +1

    Holy shit! I just realized in the USA the cashiers dont sit down! I totally forgot. man insanity. my mom is from florida she sleeps with all the blankets on with the AC on, its insane. one time i was in catania at a hostel and in the room was me, two italians, an argentinian, and another american (i didnt know anyone). the first night the american slept with all the blankets and kept insisting over and over to turn on the AC... even to the point he stole the AC remote and turned it on multiple times even after the others would turn it back off. everyone hated him after that.
    bro i will tell you my reverse culture shock story when i was with a group of americans in Geneva (yea this was in switzerland but it was the first time i had been with americans in years) and the work conference we were at brought an aperitivo... i mean like a BOMB aperitivo, spumante, olives, chips, bruschetta, etc. maaannn the reaction of this group was crazy. they were like "what is this? you call this food?" i tried to explain this was classic for southern europe or a mediterranean country and man like the look on their faces was like disgust. man i was like heart broken. it was at that point i realized all the points of view my italian friends would tell me about americans made sense to me.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      I have been struggling with this idea of hot and cold here for years and I continue to struggle! I once walked past a lady with a baby in a room during a summer month and she said "by walking past us you've just created an uncomfortable breeze!" I was completely taken aback by this! I thought, how would you handle sub zero temperatures!?
      I think the difference between people in cold countries vs those in hot ones is that when it's cold, we just accept it and wear warm clothing. The hot country people however avoid the cold like a plague instead of accepting it and I think their idea of cold is mostly in their head!
      I don't understand why Americans would be shocked to see an aperitivo at a work conference. It's no different than a social gathering with cheese and crackers. We don't however have aperitivo in our daily lives where we head out a few hours before dinner and have a drink and peanuts or chips. But then again we have happy hour.

  • @TheromaB
    @TheromaB 4 роки тому

    For AC you have to consider that europeans “green” laws are more strictly than americans, for example in Rome is forbidden tonput AC less than 22•celsius (i have no idea how many fahrenheit), even if you wish a colder temperatures you can’t.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      What happens if I put it at 21?

    • @TheromaB
      @TheromaB 4 роки тому

      Pay a fine. That’s for public places, at home belive me, electricity bills is the best way to save some AC.

  • @max.aeterno
    @max.aeterno 4 роки тому +1

    Apprezzo la sincerità, finalmente un italo-americano che parla degli stereotipi che hanno inventato gli italo-americani. Apprezzo molto, molti italo-americani dovrebbero fare come te, tornare in italia e capire cosa è l'italia. Capisco che ti senti americano, ovvio sei nato in america, cresciuto in america. Apprezzo moltissimo che non ti atteggi a fare l'italiano, perché l'italo-americano che vuole fare l'italiano è una forzatura poco simpatica. Poi davvero incontri ancora italiani stupiti che un americano vive in italia? Ancora ci sono italiani che pensano agli stati uniti come se fosse la terra promessa? Io per esempio non ci andrei neanche se mi regalassero casa lavoro e servitù compresa, il bel paese è questo ne esiste solo uno al mondo e si chiama Italia. Ho amici e amiche li che vogliono scappare e venire a vivere qui, e tu ancora incontri italiani che vogliono andare a vivere negli States. Pazzi.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +3

      Ciao Massimo e grazie per aver condiviso i tuoi pensieri! Sai, per anni ero come tanti italo americani; pensavo di essere italiano solamente perche ho un cognome italiano. Ci ho messo anni per capire chi sono veramente e dico senza pensare due volte che sono americano perché quando qualcuno mi chiede di dove sono, facciamo prima se dico “I’m American”. Poi se vogliono approfondire gli parlo della mia italianità.
      Eh si, ancora ci sono tanti italiani che pensano che l’america sia la soluzione e, come dico nel video, POTREBBE andar bene ma questo dipende molto da te. Sebbene esista la meritocrazia negli USA non significa avrai una vita lavorativa più soddisfacente e poi c’è da dire che troppo spesso nel lavoro non sei del tutto tutelato. Ti potrebbe licenziare troppo facilmente e ne so io qualcosa, eh! Nel mio caso e l’Italia, dovevo venire qui per capire com’è veramente vivere qui e anche come sono gli italiani come popolo. Se mi chiedessi se sono stato un po’ ingenuo ti direi assolutamente si! Detto ciò un po capisco la voglia di andare via perche credi che l’erba del vicino sia sempre più verde.

    • @max.aeterno
      @max.aeterno 4 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly Guarda io ho vissuto all'estero, e anche io ho capito cosa significa avere nostalgia del posto dove sei nato e cresciuto, quanti romani ci sono all'estero? Ci sono ma sicuramente in percentuale sono molto meno di altre zone dell'italia, un romano difficilmenti lascia per sempre Roma, in ogni modo la nostalgia ha vinto, con tutti i pro e i contro preferisco combattere nella mia terra, e da quanto ho capito nei tuoi video ( ho guardato anche altri video prima di commentare ) penso che stai soffrendo, pregi e difetti è la tua terra e li ci sono le tue abitudini, li c'è il tuo modo di essere e di vivere, la nostalgia è come un morbo che si attacca e difficilmente va via. Ti auguro di trovare la serenità ovunque sarai, ma a buon intenditor poche parole. Ciao caro stammi bene.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      @@max.aeterno
      Non mi sono accorto che pochi romani lasciano Roma per sempre. C’è un fascino qui che effettivamente ti tira dentro. Dove hai vissuto all’estero? Grazie davvero per la solidareità e anche per aver visto gli altri video miei. Questa settimana è stata incredibile per il mio canale per quanto riguarda la crescita. Non me le aspettavo proprio!
      Oddio, non so soffrire è il verbo giusto. Io sento la mancanza di casa per tutti i pregi e difetti, questo è vero, ma so benissimo che se tornassi in America dopo tanti anni qui, non so veramente mi sentirei a casa anche se è la nazione in cui sono nato e cresciuto.
      Ora che sono padre diciamo che mi concento di più su quello e non la mancanza di casa che sento ogni tanto. Nel mio caso aiuta molto il fatto che sono di origine italiana e quindi una parte di me è tornata a casa se ci pensi. Ora spero che mia figlia in futuro senta anche lei un’appartenenza a più di una nazione. Scusa per l’italiano un po’ storpiato, ma sono un po’ assonnato e tendo a tradurre dall’inglese !

    • @max.aeterno
      @max.aeterno 4 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly I have been in London for 5 years, write English if you want, as you like, then for 6 months in Florida and then I went back to Roma. Homesickness is atavistic, but you have good reason to stay here, questo te lo scrivo in italiano '' i figli sono pezzi di cuore ''.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@max.aeterno I look at her and I melt! What did you think of Florida ?

  • @1977Timp
    @1977Timp 4 роки тому +1

    Tipping in USA is mandatory... Because is a kind of mandatory because otherwise they cannot make a living.. but in Italy is more like if you got a very good service you should tip.. to show your appreciation!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Right this is why I tip them, because I feel bad how they are paid less by their employers.

  • @StormKidification
    @StormKidification 4 роки тому

    I love ur vids David sei fantastico

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Thank you 😊
      Are there any topics you’d like me to cover for future videos ?

    • @StormKidification
      @StormKidification 4 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly Onestamente non saprei, però quello che amo di questo video è che anche io ho provato moltissimi culture shock andando in America (non sono stato dalle tue parti, ho solo visitato Manhattan per una settimana), per esempio ricordo benissimo che uscendo dall'Aeroporto JFK e avendo preso un taxi, sono rimasto estasiato da quando fosse larga l'autostrada. Sembrava infinita! Even
      though I dont really have any suggestions I'll keep watching whatever you put out. Ive basically binge watched the entirety of your channel yesterday.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Bingo! You’ve just pointed out something I really miss. Big American roads! Thank you ever so much for watching all my videos! That made my day and I hope you enjoy my future videos as I a lot of other ideas in mind

  • @diegocanale1124
    @diegocanale1124 6 місяців тому +1

    Canned ravioli, canned spaghetti meatballs??! You need to draw a line somewhere

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  6 місяців тому +1

      @@diegocanale1124 my wife was horrified. Rightly so

    • @diegocanale1124
      @diegocanale1124 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly in the UK and Ireland they sell Dolmio tomato sauce for pasta. That's equally appalling. No Italian I know has ever bought this.
      I can relate to your wife as fellow Italian

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  6 місяців тому

      She tried to make cannoli using Galbani ricotta that we found in Connecticut and it had a very grainy taste to it.
      I bought Rana ravioli in CT last year. It tasted like rubber.
      Nah in the US stick with meat and the big classic American breakfast (not that it’s exactly healthy !)

  • @yellow13_
    @yellow13_ 3 роки тому

    Ho vissuto in America per un anno. Non capisco che problema ci fosse con la temperatura nella mia scuola, freddissima! Dopo, mi è stato detto che la Contea aveva il controllo della temperatura di tutte le scuole della zona perché l’AC era centralizzata. Trovo che sia una cosa veramente stupida. Nelle scuole a sud si stava bene, ma nelle scuole a nord si moriva di freddo perché nevicava, ma l’AC centralizzata non permetteva di aumentare i gradi altrimenti a sud avrebbero avuto caldo!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Non c’è molto l’idea della contea nel Nord in America. Esistono ma nessuno direbbe di essere di una contea , bensì direbbe la città o stato di provenienza.
      Dalle mie parti stavo bene a scuola per quanto riguarda la temperatura

    • @yellow13_
      @yellow13_ 3 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly I know! To respond to the other comment, i stayed in MD. The thing is, Marylanders consider themselves south apparently, even tho they’re geographically to the north-east. I have been to Cali, NY, Alabama, Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Pennsylvania and EVERYONE was from their own city or state. In Maryland everyone suddenly appeared to be from Carrol County and they expect you to know where that is! Beats me too man lol

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      @@yellow13_ I once was in Greece and we were with my dad’s coworkers who had family there. When they introduced themselves, one of them said “I’m from West Hartford (Connecticut)”. Ya know..NY, London, Tokyo, West Hartford.

  • @elenagradara1895
    @elenagradara1895 4 роки тому +2

    I emphatize with your wife 🤣 However AC is not sustainable. We should use it less possible!

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Yes it would be better, but when it's 40 degrees and humid it's hard to resist. Especially in my case since I get hot very easily.

    • @paolagrando5079
      @paolagrando5079 3 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly Removing the humidity already helps a lot. For both hot or cold weather.

  • @tommasocastelli91
    @tommasocastelli91 2 роки тому

    07:25 Yep! It's actually illegal in Italy.

  • @ascaniosobrero
    @ascaniosobrero 2 роки тому +1

    I hate all the ice you get in the US. Everything is filled with ice, with no reason. A cold drink is ok, but why fill it with ice?
    Tips: in the US you have to (at least in the restaurants), since tips are large part of the salary (in UK as well, honestly). This is not the case in Italy, where your salary (albeit low, maybe), is not considering tips.
    "italian" food: I faced horrible things like "Fettuccine Alfredo's" or something the like, microwaved, but that's not my problem. The only thing I had to fight for, when in the US, was about pizza. I can't stand the fact that in US they consider pizza an American food! No way!!!
    AC: I have been one year at Wash. U. in St. Louis; in summer I had to go with a sweater because of the polar cold (outside the concrete was melting); in winter I had to be almost naked and we had to keep ventilators on the computers because of the high temperature inside. I think this depends an the low cost of energy in the US: it would be unacceptable in Europe.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  2 роки тому

      Yeah when I go back to the United States and I eat out I was asked for water with lemon and no ice. I don’t like ice because it’s difficult for digestion and I just don’t think it’s healthy for you. I like chilled water but only in the summertime.
      In regards to temperatures I feel that there is a big cultural difference between Americans and Italians. While it is true that Americans exaggerate with air-conditioning I don’t agree with Italians that if you go from air-conditioning to heat all at once that you will get sick. I believe sicknesses come from germs and viruses primarily.

  • @NaturaBreeze
    @NaturaBreeze 4 роки тому +1

    hey :) in Australia no one tips, it's not a thing, never has been (thank God!) one less thing to worry about! You just pay what it is done -- plus Australia is generally very expensive anyway, so tips are out of the question......same as in Japan (I lived there 4 years), and there it can even be the opposite! as in, if you tip they may get offended like you're throwing money at them, if that makes sense...like it's kind of degrading...the price is the set price! done :)
    PS - bags of ice ARE a thing in Australia :)
    and, Italian food here is for the most part, great (for as I said previously, there's still a recent link to Italy with the 1950s -60s wave of Italians who came here and set up shops, pizzerias, cafes etc.....

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      I am trying to understand why the Japanese would be offended by tips but for some odd reason I am surprised. I say that because little bits of Japanese culture throughout the years have caught me by surprise. Kinda like the no talking on the metro or the guys with white gloves who gently push you onto the metro so you all fit in there.
      I had a housemate from Perth years ago and he was passionate about his Italian heritage. When he spoke English I couldn’t understand him at all at first!

    • @lucabralia5125
      @lucabralia5125 4 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly I think the Japanese don't like tips because it means that the cook did so bad that you have to pay him to let him survive.
      But that's just what I heard, I'm not sure if it's true.

  • @albypansa
    @albypansa 3 роки тому +1

    Il cibo italiano in America é adattato al gusto americano. Vivo in Spagna e anche qua il cibo italiano é un po' diverso. Saluti

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Sarà meglio in Spagna il cibo italiano che in America

    • @albypansa
      @albypansa 3 роки тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly a Malaga dimenticati di mangiare una pizza decente,(comunque la gente va in andalusia per provare la cucina spagnola che é fantastica) In Canarias la cucina italiana é meglio, perché ci sono molti italiani. Anche qua in Spagna dipende sempre dove vai, comunque la Spagna é molto "nazionalista" per la cucina, cercano di spingere quella spagnola. Jamon serrano, paella, tortilla di patatas, poi ogni regione ha i suoi piatti, come in italia. Peró diciamo che il cibo italiano é sempre apprezzato, anche se non si va oltre gli stereotipi di pasta e pizza, per esempio, non ho mai visto un piatto piemontese 😒

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +2

      @@albypansa Non sapevo che la Spagna fosse cosi nazionalista per quanto riguarda il loro cibo. Secondo me è meglio cosi, cosi conservi le tradizioni culinarie del paese. Io adoro questo aspetto dell'Italia, cioè che ogni regione, città , borgo ecc hanno i loro piatti unici. In America è davvero difficile trovare cibo vero italiano, bisogna assicurarsi che il cuoco o proprietario siano italiani non influenzati troppo dalla cucina americana.

    • @tinalettieri
      @tinalettieri Рік тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly In Israele, peggio. Disgustoso.

  • @ptrs559
    @ptrs559 4 роки тому

    Great vlog David. Good points. Getting a drink in the US with little or no ice- what a struggle. Tipping is another interesting point. Here in the US if the service is good the server gets 20% from me. If there is a problem in the kitchen but the server is trying they get 20%. . If they have an attitude or could care less then they get a token gratuity to make the point. Correct me if I’m wrong David but in Italy taxes on your meal and gratuity ( “service”) are included in your bill to the tune of 12-18% each. No free lunch. 😂

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      Hi Mike. Thank you! Yes, exactly! They load up on the ice to give you less drink and then you quickly have to buy another one. Usually on the bill in Italy you see the word coperto and this means that you’re paying what it costs the restaurant to sit you. This includes the cleaning, the silverware and other little things. Important to mention that the money doesn’t go directly to the waitstaff, so anything you leave will in fact go towards your server. That’s if you liked the service. The taxes on the bill are usually around 22% and this is called the IVA (Imposta sul valore aggiunto /VAT value added tax). My advice? Tip anyway because they aren’t expecting it as much as US waitstaff and they don’t earn a ton of money. Believe me I know!

    • @ptrs559
      @ptrs559 4 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly and we here in the States complain about 11-12% restaurant meal tax ( carry out too!). 😖😤😫

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому

      @@ptrs559 There's no "free lunch"!

    • @stefanogabrielli7130
      @stefanogabrielli7130 4 роки тому +1

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly in Italy VAT tax at restaurants is 10%

  • @meganrortiz
    @meganrortiz 3 роки тому

    Waiters only make 2.13 and hour. Do Italian waiters make that less? Probably not. That's why we tip.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      When I was a waiter for one summer I got paid a set wage for 8 hours. It was slave wages and tips were rare. I understand why tipping is done in the US but I don’t like how waitstaff rely on tips for their well being

  • @larsjohansson660
    @larsjohansson660 3 роки тому +1

    I dont like the coperto, service charge of 1 till 5 euros that is added on for each customer. Best regards from switzerland.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому

      Alternatively they could add that cost onto the cost of the food, but then again high prices might drive away people.

  • @emarascalchi
    @emarascalchi Рік тому +1

    Lawers commecials are actually forbidden by the bar regulations

  • @3dvorator
    @3dvorator 3 роки тому +3

    David, the more I hear you, the more I perceive like your DNA is saying "you are Italian David"...you need less AC, don't need a ton of ice in the water...definitely your last name is telling you who really you are... 😁😁

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  3 роки тому +2

      I suppose for US standards I am more Italian than American. For the Americans however I was always that Italian guy! I like AC but I've learned to live with less of it, ice in water never! I dunno some days I feel really out of place, others I blend in well. Boh

    • @georgeP771
      @georgeP771 Рік тому

      Hey I live in US and I need less AC. I drink water 99.8 percent of the time without ice.

  • @lorenzosalvioni5905
    @lorenzosalvioni5905 4 роки тому +1

    could you please make a video about guns in the usa? i know that maybe is a bit controversial topic but it would be interesting

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Lorenzo. OH! That's a great idea! Thanks! I think I'd need to speak with Italian and American gun owners so as not to make any ignorant generalizations

  • @domamania
    @domamania Рік тому

    Hi I live in frozenone Italy which I spell the city a little wrong for security purposes.
    I noticed here in Italy there is a lack of discipline compared to where I used to live in the United States specifically New York.
    For example shops banks they stay till open up a certain time and they open up 20 minutes late they take very frequent breaks of cappuccino which I'm not used to the medical field is not as good as the American Fields the doctors office is are not as equipped as those are in America when you go to an Italian hospital they take 24 hours just to see you.
    The village halls the streets The Sidewalks they're all very very badly maintained I mean I know you live in Rome but step outside Rome 20 minutes and you would see the big difference it's almost third world and I am an Italian citizen from Italian family living in Italy from the United States and believe me I see a large difference from the United States in Italy

  • @federicoalfero9287
    @federicoalfero9287 4 роки тому

    Dude.... have you been sleeping at night? Judging from the bags under your eyes I wouldn't think so.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  4 роки тому +1

      Not really. Baby. You know ! But I’ve always had bags under my eyes

    • @tinalettieri
      @tinalettieri Рік тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly Uffa! nonostante, tu sei carino. 😁

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  Рік тому

      @@tinalettieri thank you 😊. I get eye comments once in a while

    • @tinalettieri
      @tinalettieri Рік тому

      @@DavidsDoseofItaly They are a bit unusual but if you can see ok and it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it.

    • @DavidsDoseofItaly
      @DavidsDoseofItaly  Рік тому

      @@tinalettieri They've always irritated me.