It doesn't look like it, but they all went up at the same speed. Some of them lost traction before they got to the logs, which made it look like they went up slower. We did this several times in each vehicle.
@@Xyb3rTeCh The Koleos was the perfect example of poor accelerator pressure, it has nothing to do with their momentum as you hear it come off the power. Disappointing.
@@Drivecomau You should do the same exact test for full size SUV's Jeep Grand Cherokee (equipped with quadra drive), Hyundai Santa-Fe, Kia Sorento, Toyota Kluger, etc
Log climb ability is very much determined by the tyres. Rigidity test should be opening the back gate. With comfortable, low noise, fuel economy tyres, even a jeep wrangler will struggle in the log climb.
Taller suspension does help keep more momentum over big bumps (instead of translating the momentum into up/down body motion), and allows you to hit them faster.
UA-cam Account, But momentum can only carry you that far. If you have no grip, you will slide backward back to the starting point once the momentum is depleted.
UA-cam Account, Personally, I think this can be sum up as a half hearted attempt at best, a lazy review in reality. 1) No attempt to change to a common off-road tyre for a fair comparison. I can understand, it cost a lot, thus half hearted. 2) Not wanting to get their shoe wet and dirty, so instead of opening the back gate to test the rigidity, they open the door instead. Thus lazy.
@@esphilee Yes if you are climbing something uniformly slippery like an ice slope. But climbing over slippery logs/roots/rocks is a matter of smoothly keeping momentum over the slippery bits by picking up momentum in between where there is a little traction. It is a very tough obstacle and if anything the most successful vehicle might be the one whose wheelbase is not matched by the log spacing, just by chance; hitting a lot front and back at the same time is killer, at minimum you'd need enough suspension to suck it up which none of these vehicles has.
Well, I agree with you, Longer suspension is good. But traction is everything. In the test, lowering the tyre pressure helps too. All the vehicles tested have sufficient clearance and likely so with suspension travel since they are SUV. But none has AT tyre at the least. They did not even attempt to lower the tyre pressure. It is like driving the Mercedes F1 car in slick vs William F1 car in Wet tyre on a rainy day. Does not matter how good the Mercedes and Hamilton is, what kind of suspension travel they have, they will not catch up to the William. In fact they would likely crash if they attempt to catch up. If you attempt to compare the capability of the SUV, at least give them the proper tyre. Don’t test your F1 car in slick on a rainy day, and assume the car failed.
The lack of credibility in this video is rife! You did the door test at a different point of the offset track in every car and hit the hill at a different speed in every car, sometimes even backing off in some cars and not others.
@@Jerdani_4 He could have tried to do all the tests at the same speed or RPM... he went super slow and cowed with the Rav4 and quite fast and brazen with the subaru that is why Forester performed the best...
What about the tyre's? Totally unfair, Especially for the log test. And which cars have you tested that's passed the log test anyway ? Atleast that would have been a point of comparison.
Would be interesting to do this test then show us a “real” 4x4 such as a LandCruiser with diff locks etc doing the same tests to show how much difference it really makes.
I have the Mazda CX5 AWD 2014 2.5 l and in the snow if i have a little trouble to get out I take off the traction control and it is like 4X4 lock system mode . I recommend the CX5 AWD it is the only one that drives like a car instead of a 4X4 truck
The Subaru is the only one I'd trust to take me off road - it's the only car with a proper permanent AWD. The rest are FWD based. The symmetrical AWD system in the Subaru is awesome!
Yes. Consumer Reports did a test in snow a few years back, and found the Subaru and Audi AWD systems worked far better than any other manufacturers. And the Subaru is far more reliable after the first few years.
Yeah. If you're actually planning to leave the city the Subaru really is the only option. Better AWD system. The most ground clearance and a standard real spare.
@@Homerlovesbeer2 actually no, not really. The cvt is well matched to the capability of the Forester. It won't get you up some of the tracks in the vic high country bit it will get you most places.
@@edwardvalivonis23 since when will any SUV face a hill with logs in it? Even those who do "greenlaning" would have a problem getting up a bank consisting of logs.. They'd have to use winches even then they'd slide all over.. as the grooves ofthe tyres fill with mud.. making it equal to a slick tyre on a wet road.
Really doesn't make sense when they use road tyres for off road applications. It's as though they want to write a review and say something good about the brand but at the same time bring it down on capability. I own a forester and i won't replace it with any other brand.......
@@Xyb3rTeCh If you dont offroad it yes, otherwise you have a great chance of your CVT failing. And also you can hardly start on a loose gravel hill because the VDC and the CVT will cut power.
I've owned two Subarus since 2005, Tribeca and the Outback. I used both vehicles for work as a news cameraman. I live in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. There are a lot of steep hills and never got stuck in the snow. Subaru makes one of the best all-wheel drive vehicles. The full-time all-wheel drive will cost you a little more at the pump, but well worth it.
Interesting video! It would have been interesting to see a “true” off-roader complete the log test. My guess is that even a “true” off-roader would struggle or even fail the log test.
@@Drivecomau My suggestion would be lining up the SUVs from this comparison which did a better job in the log test, against Land Rover Discovery as a benchmark off-roader.
@@Drivecomau would've liked you to take proper 4x4's such as Land Rover Discovery / Defender and it's rivals equipped with All Terrain tyres. not soft 4x4's with road tyres.. as soon as I saw the log test I knew no way would any of them get up it.. I doubt even a ATV quad bike could get up those logs..
The Mazda CX-5 has a “Trail Mode” but it is labelled “TCS OFF” and is a button by your right knee, Paul. You can query Dave Coleman of Mazda NA about the function (increases braking on a wheel when it’s in the air, allowing more power to the opposite wheel with traction). They are still working on how to convey what it does to the driver with better labelling, etc. Knowing about it could make all the difference when on trails in your compact SUV; so sooner the better!
Tyres are a big part of this job. Road ones get clogged easily and just slip. Even a Landcruiser with any of these tyres would have trouble in these tests I think.
Correct. If your tyres are unsuitable and can’t get traction you can have all the diff locks, suspension and other off road aids, you still won’t go anywhere. They are all wheel driven vehicles after all.
@@rsoul7282 as I said in my previous postt.. You'd not go mountaineering in flip flops (beach shoes) so why would you then use road tyres (which SUV car manufacturers supply to most SUV's) , due to them been cheaper than all terrain tyres.To then go offroading?
I sure like this test because the vast majority of offroad tests never test the vehicles head to head against an obstacle that some or most of them cannot accomplish. You can't say where the limits are without bumping into them!
Log trail is hard test specially with wet land, it is better if proper tire is stalled.. shame on the most expensive one but weak chassis.. the best i think is Subaru..
just proved that all them aren't true offroaders but I doubt any 4x4 adventurer would look to climb up a hill with muddy logs lol. Especially not in a standard SUV setup for road use lol.
Most people who buy "true" 4x4's never actually use them so they could actually buy one of these and save themselves a tonne of money. Easier to park, cheaper to run...whats not to like.
feli pascu LOL,,,,obviously you don’t know shitzen about Russia. Next you’ll claim there is meters deep snow down under along with tundra, bogs and mountains miles high.
@@2003evodave i know how to offroad, i have a discovery, and obviously technics, russians don't know anything, they only have money to push vehicles to their limits
Wow, a lot of hurt feelings by reviewers that their cars didn’t perform as expected. The Subaru crowd tends to be whiners in these tests. No, your cvt is not a Wrangler or 4 Runner. He obviously did not put all terrain tires on the vehicle because the premise of the test was an owner wanting to take their road suv off the pavement for a camping or similar trip. You want to show what your suv can do? Load a video. I expect most owners of these suvs realize they are not off-road machines and do not want to put all terrain tires on a vehicle that they use 99% of the time on pavement for work, good road handling and good gas mileage, with .9% off pavement driving and .1% at best on anything that taxes the civilized suv’s capability. This video provides some basic information on how the vehicles handle a discrete set of tasks. It is not without flaws but is beneficial.
Pahahaha the tiguan is on the level of the subaru and the structual problem is caused by the big ass glass roof thats it , watch other offroad tests sometimes the tiguan beats the subaru
There are a few issues with this test. First, when putting all these small suvs on the structural rigidity test, you did not use the same stopping location on all. Many times, a deviation of a couple of centimeters/inches could make a differens in torsion stress. Second, none of these small suvs have propper off-road worthy tires. Even larger suvs (with the possible exception of a few hard-core off-roaders) will have a problem trying to climb the slippery logs on "stock" road tires. Third, momentum and speed are ke6 when off roading and will make or break a successful off road experience. In my opinion, you tried to go up the slippery logs a bit too fast and you did not use the same momentum on all the test vehicles. A sure way to get stuck off roading is going too fast, which you did with all of these. Anyhow, this should serve as a lesson to potential buyers to see where not to take their beloved small suvs. Ha!
I think it's a fair test, regardless of stock road tires, you can still see which tires spins when the vehicle is stuck, and when the other tires starts to engages. Thank you for doing it, glad to see these kind of reviews. Some people are probably just upset that their cars are shown and failed.
It would be nice to see which vehicle outside of this set could do the slippery log climb with the same type of tyres as a comparison. otherwise that test doesn't have much value
You went very easy on the RAV4. My wife bought a RAV4 two years ago and it is very nice on the streets and highways but I would never trust it on any off roads.
part 3 of your test is not applicable for this kind of suv's , big hill full of mud with street tyres . even proper 4x4 will have very had time in such case .
It would do them without any probs :) see CarWow tests by Mat Watson and he compared with the G Wagon & Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I can say that it compared quite good with them for the price you pay its quite a great little offroader :)!
Discovery Sport is the best by far. I wish Peugeot would make the 3008/5008 AWD, it's so close to being a perfect car except for a couple of let downs. Also, not everyone buys a medium SUV for kids.. plenty of singles and couples buy them for the space and ease of entry/exit, not to mention visibility and comfort for long drives.
Would've been nice to see the Jeep Renegade and/or Cherokee in this comparison. I think either in Trailhawk trim probably would've passed all three tests but would also be fun to see a non- Trailhawk edition compete. Excellent simple test setup. No BS straight forward comparison. 👍👍
I think the same thing! The third test has no sense with road tyres. Too many mud on the tyres surface makes the tyres totally smooth with no grip at all.
I am looking to replace my SUV, however I cannot find out any details regarding towing a trailer / camp trailer. Can you advise if there is anything out there? Had an Xtrail st-s manual that was awesome towing and my current honda is not as good regarding towing. Thanks
Yeah... not sure tests are consistent I'm afraid. The AWD we use in our videos would win all these test no worries. That's Holden technology in 2005 beating all 2019 tech.
Very interesting, but I felt you should have used all the cars with same tyres type and size. Also I think you should have use Rav4 Edge/Adventure instead of the hybrid. Anyway, Subaru rocks !
Nice review Paul. I liked how the CX-5 and the Forester went through the ruts(offset model). Was surprised that the Tiguan exhibited more chassis flex. I have the previous generation from 2012 and the doors do not close well when parked on uneven terrain offroad. I thought that was going to be addressed with the new generation but obviously VW put their attention elsewhere :-). Besides the obvious that the structure on the Tiguan flexes more than the other cars, anyone cares to comment if there are any implications safety wise considering the Euro NCaps rate the cars similarly for safety? Greetings from South Africa..
I've been to an accident where a Tiguan rolled multiple times at high speed. The accident was severe enough to seperate the engine and gearbox from the car, the debris was strewn over several hundred metres. The car retained its body structure and the occupants survived, just.
Toyota's AWD is crappy, reliable qualities, but pretty crappy. The RAV4 adventure wouldn't make it up there even with different tires. Plus, the adventure trim is just a hoax, at least here in Canada, there are no major differences between it and the XLE trim, Toyota just gave it a minor lift and a beefed up radiator to tow more than the XLE. Add a little more $, skip the RAV4, and you can get a SR5 4Runner, that's more of a proper body on frame off-roader.
@@saauuzza what's a fact? a jeep wrangler is a small SUV, and it would destroy a forester offroad. the 4runner is another medium sized SUV that would destroy it offroad as well. so it's the best option for what exactly? what is the fact here?
You haven't tested the forester while activating the Xmode and deep sand mode. It would've been interesting to see if those functions enabled the forester to go through the logs.
You are super inconsistent with your speed up the logs and through the "mud pit"... think you should have a fixed speed and then go through each obstacle... the mazda out performed the subaru in the mud pit... but you had more speed going up the logs with the subaru than the mazda... and you also went very show with the Hyundai up the logs... and why is there no Ford Kuga/Escape?
It’s impossible to have the exact same speed. We did the tests several times at varying speeds and the results were always the same. As mentioned in the video, Escape wasn’t available for this test.
Want to see how they fair on-road? watch this: ua-cam.com/video/JIBf1ui4s2c/v-deo.html
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You should use same momentum with all the cars, you are not constant in your momentum between the different cars!!
It doesn't look like it, but they all went up at the same speed. Some of them lost traction before they got to the logs, which made it look like they went up slower. We did this several times in each vehicle.
Cornraad. If you move at higher speed the car would probably break. Those logs are hard on the wheels and suspension
@@Xyb3rTeCh The Koleos was the perfect example of poor accelerator pressure, it has nothing to do with their momentum as you hear it come off the power.
Disappointing.
@@Drivecomau Fair enough
@@Drivecomau You should do the same exact test for full size SUV's
Jeep Grand Cherokee (equipped with quadra drive), Hyundai Santa-Fe, Kia Sorento, Toyota Kluger, etc
Log climb ability is very much determined by the tyres. Rigidity test should be opening the back gate.
With comfortable, low noise, fuel economy tyres, even a jeep wrangler will struggle in the log climb.
Taller suspension does help keep more momentum over big bumps (instead of translating the momentum into up/down body motion), and allows you to hit them faster.
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But momentum can only carry you that far. If you have no grip, you will slide backward back to the starting point once the momentum is depleted.
UA-cam Account,
Personally, I think this can be sum up as a half hearted attempt at best, a lazy review in reality.
1) No attempt to change to a common off-road tyre for a fair comparison. I can understand, it cost a lot, thus half hearted.
2) Not wanting to get their shoe wet and dirty, so instead of opening the back gate to test the rigidity, they open the door instead. Thus lazy.
@@esphilee Yes if you are climbing something uniformly slippery like an ice slope. But climbing over slippery logs/roots/rocks is a matter of smoothly keeping momentum over the slippery bits by picking up momentum in between where there is a little traction. It is a very tough obstacle and if anything the most successful vehicle might be the one whose wheelbase is not matched by the log spacing, just by chance; hitting a lot front and back at the same time is killer, at minimum you'd need enough suspension to suck it up which none of these vehicles has.
Well, I agree with you, Longer suspension is good. But traction is everything. In the test, lowering the tyre pressure helps too.
All the vehicles tested have sufficient clearance and likely so with suspension travel since they are SUV. But none has AT tyre at the least. They did not even attempt to lower the tyre pressure.
It is like driving the Mercedes F1 car in slick vs William F1 car in Wet tyre on a rainy day. Does not matter how good the Mercedes and Hamilton is, what kind of suspension travel they have, they will not catch up to the William.
In fact they would likely crash if they attempt to catch up.
If you attempt to compare the capability of the SUV, at least give them the proper tyre. Don’t test your F1 car in slick on a rainy day, and assume the car failed.
The lack of credibility in this video is rife! You did the door test at a different point of the offset track in every car and hit the hill at a different speed in every car, sometimes even backing off in some cars and not others.
and he is using STREET TIERS ON MUD
Better use a horse or carabao.. in climbing sleepery Hills.
Indeed.
same there would be no difference, the "suv" have nothing 4x4 are large sedans. Only a fool would buy an "SUV"
@@ikbalkhan7535 even tyres mate :)
This “test” is not consistent.
Because the driver a human not precision like robot or computer
forester is life, the rest is excited. Forester candır , gerisi heyecandır😂
@@Jerdani_4 He could have tried to do all the tests at the same speed or RPM... he went super slow and cowed with the Rav4 and quite fast and brazen with the subaru that is why Forester performed the best...
What about the tyre's? Totally unfair, Especially for the log test. And which cars have you tested that's passed the log test anyway ? Atleast that would have been a point of comparison.
I'd love to see this test done again, but with off-road tyres used instead of the stock road tyres.
I totally agree with you
mate I wouldn't let you test a light switch.
😂 this is a good one
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Hahahahahha...
when Seth McFarlane isn't making Family Guy episodes, he tests out different SUV's
Baaaahahahahahaha
Subaru Symmetrical AWD system works like magic.
i feel dumb after watching this video. wasted my time here.
Would be interesting to do this test then show us a “real” 4x4 such as a LandCruiser with diff locks etc doing the same tests to show how much difference it really makes.
I'll take the Subaru Forester out of all these.
I have the Mazda CX5 AWD 2014 2.5 l and in the snow if i have a little trouble to get out I take off the traction control and it is like 4X4 lock system mode . I recommend the CX5 AWD it is the only one that drives like a car instead of a 4X4 truck
Yeah use the same speed with all the SUVs when going up the logs!!!
That tiguan didn't get a fair assessment on chassis. It was the only one on a really severe angle. As for subaru it had the fastest momentum.
Nope. They were all tested at the same angle.
The Subaru is the only one I'd trust to take me off road - it's the only car with a proper permanent AWD. The rest are FWD based. The symmetrical AWD system in the Subaru is awesome!
Yes. Consumer Reports did a test in snow a few years back, and found the Subaru and Audi AWD systems worked far better than any other manufacturers. And the Subaru is far more reliable after the first few years.
Yeah. If you're actually planning to leave the city the Subaru really is the only option. Better AWD system. The most ground clearance and a standard real spare.
We took our fully loaded Forester over to Fraser Island and it did great!
Well you'd be stuffed in most places with a hill because the CVT transmission really kills off-road performance. It's been well documented.
@@Homerlovesbeer2 actually no, not really. The cvt is well matched to the capability of the Forester. It won't get you up some of the tracks in the vic high country bit it will get you most places.
you should have use a true 4*4 to benchmark the slippery log test...
I would doubt if true 4x4 can actually make it. It’s just way too slippery.
@@rexsong4835 So what is the point of this video if no car can actually make it?
@@rajTrondhjem10 they want to test crossover capabilities for challenging roads, it's not about real 4x4. Obviously real 4x4 would crush that test
@@edwardvalivonis23 since when will any SUV face a hill with logs in it? Even those who do "greenlaning" would have a problem getting up a bank consisting of logs.. They'd have to use winches even then they'd slide all over.. as the grooves ofthe tyres fill with mud.. making it equal to a slick tyre on a wet road.
@@LFC-Star not really, they can use Lada Niva without problem
Give that Subaru Forester a grippier offroad tyres like the BFGoodrich AT tyres and you'd be able to conquer that stupid slippery logs.
Really doesn't make sense when they use road tyres for off road applications. It's as though they want to write a review and say something good about the brand but at the same time bring it down on capability. I own a forester and i won't replace it with any other brand.......
@@Iqes007 Subaru is the best and a reliable beast, bro! Subaru is the best! Fuck crappy overrated Toyota and Honda!
@@Xyb3rTeCh Older ones were great. But I am not buying a CVT again!
@@moonsapling Yes CVT sucks overall. But the Subie's version actually ain't that bad
@@Xyb3rTeCh If you dont offroad it yes, otherwise you have a great chance of your CVT failing. And also you can hardly start on a loose gravel hill because the VDC and the CVT will cut power.
Since Subaru has been at this game for half a century I’d expect the first test to be a walk in the park for the Forester.
Love these wide range of SUV or any particular type of vehicle for a test. Keep it up, mate! It's freaking awesome!
At the Slippery Log Climbs don't reduce the speed at the beginning of the climb, starting from 0 km/h is very difficult or almost impossible. 11:36
Put some off road tires on the vehicles if you want them to crawl up the logs. Road tires are a joke not the SUVS.
I've owned two Subarus since 2005, Tribeca and the Outback. I used both vehicles for work as a news cameraman. I live in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. There are a lot of steep hills and never got stuck in the snow. Subaru makes one of the best all-wheel drive vehicles. The full-time all-wheel drive will cost you a little more at the pump, but well worth it.
Interesting video! It would have been interesting to see a “true” off-roader complete the log test. My guess is that even a “true” off-roader would struggle or even fail the log test.
Yes, the plan was to have a dual-cab ute run up the hill, but we were one staff member short and couldn't make it happen.
@@Drivecomau My suggestion would be lining up the SUVs from this comparison which did a better job in the log test, against Land Rover Discovery as a benchmark off-roader.
@@Drivecomau use off-road tiers next time plz
@@Drivecomau would've liked you to take proper 4x4's such as Land Rover Discovery / Defender and it's rivals equipped with All Terrain tyres. not soft 4x4's with road tyres.. as soon as I saw the log test I knew no way would any of them get up it.. I doubt even a ATV quad bike could get up those logs..
The log test is a test of the tires. If the tires don't grip nothing else matters.
The Mazda CX-5 has a “Trail Mode” but it is labelled “TCS OFF” and is a button by your right knee, Paul. You can query Dave Coleman of Mazda NA about the function (increases braking on a wheel when it’s in the air, allowing more power to the opposite wheel with traction). They are still working on how to convey what it does to the driver with better labelling, etc. Knowing about it could make all the difference when on trails in your compact SUV; so sooner the better!
Interesting! It did pretty well without - we will have to give it another go.
Tyres are a big part of this job. Road ones get clogged easily and just slip. Even a Landcruiser with any of these tyres would have trouble in these tests I think.
Correct. If your tyres are unsuitable and can’t get traction you can have all the diff locks, suspension and other off road aids, you still won’t go anywhere. They are all wheel driven vehicles after all.
@@rsoul7282 as I said in my previous postt.. You'd not go mountaineering in flip flops (beach shoes) so why would you then use road tyres (which SUV car manufacturers supply to most SUV's) , due to them been cheaper than all terrain tyres.To then go offroading?
Also, grateful if you could share your camera gear and behind the camera setup. I am always intrigued with your videos. Is it a one-man shot and show?
I sure like this test because the vast majority of offroad tests never test the vehicles head to head against an obstacle that some or most of them cannot accomplish.
You can't say where the limits are without bumping into them!
Log trail is hard test specially with wet land, it is better if proper tire is stalled.. shame on the most expensive one but weak chassis.. the best i think is Subaru..
The log test was completely pointless and provided little useful information
Just like this comment.
just proved that all them aren't true offroaders but I doubt any 4x4 adventurer would look to climb up a hill with muddy logs lol. Especially not in a standard SUV setup for road use lol.
@@Drivecomau nice try mate
Wet clay forreal reg tyres lmao
I would pick Subaru after watchning this video
I miss the grand vitara! All its glorius off road capabilities...
lol, I'm still driving my 08 Grand Vitara V6, loving it. It's impeccable.
Most people who buy "true" 4x4's never actually use them so they could actually buy one of these and save themselves a tonne of money. Easier to park, cheaper to run...whats not to like.
But they don't have the wank factor my friend. So the true 4wds will continue to be purchased in large wanky numbers.
The minute Suzuki Jimny would have outshined all of them in that area
Bahahahaha your shitty small jimmy😂
Why would you not use X mode for Subaru on the logs and try??
kp he does indicate at the beginning of the test he engages it so I assume he doesn’t disengage it for the log test.
You really don’t know anything about off-road. Watch how Russians do off-road test.
yeah. This guy dont know anything about offroad. cant blame him, he had been pay to do it.
WTF Russians are the worst offroaders i've ever seen dude, Australian people know how to do it well, why don't you go and check 4x4 Action channel
feli pascu LOL,,,,obviously you don’t know shitzen about Russia.
Next you’ll claim there is meters deep snow down under along with tundra, bogs and mountains miles high.
@@2003evodave i know how to offroad, i have a discovery, and obviously technics, russians don't know anything, they only have money to push vehicles to their limits
@@pascu6712 Sorry to say, but that's not true
Do the same test,for the premiums,; MB, Volvo, BMW, Audi, Lexus, infinity
as if someone would take their lovely shiny XC90 up a hill covered in logs lol.. The logs would crack the alloys.. as well as do other damage.
Wow, a lot of hurt feelings by reviewers that their cars didn’t perform as expected. The Subaru crowd tends to be whiners in these tests. No, your cvt is not a Wrangler or 4 Runner. He obviously did not put all terrain tires on the vehicle because the premise of the test was an owner wanting to take their road suv off the pavement for a camping or similar trip. You want to show what your suv can do? Load a video.
I expect most owners of these suvs realize they are not off-road machines and do not want to put all terrain tires on a vehicle that they use 99% of the time on pavement for work, good road handling and good gas mileage, with .9% off pavement driving and .1% at best on anything that taxes the civilized suv’s capability. This video provides some basic information on how the vehicles handle a discrete set of tasks. It is not without flaws but is beneficial.
Mazda, Subaru, Honda... the best in my book,.... Tiguan is utter crap, but no surprises there.
Pahahaha the tiguan is on the level of the subaru and the structual problem is caused by the big ass glass roof thats it , watch other offroad tests sometimes the tiguan beats the subaru
@@leopard2109 But of course it is...
dimekoza did you drive any of these cars ? I dont think so
@@leopard2109 How do you know?! Go troll somwhere else VW fanboy...
Vw's issues of course already many years.... real good cars start with a j in the identification plate of the car....
There are a few issues with this test.
First, when putting all these small suvs on the structural rigidity test, you did not use the same stopping location on all. Many times, a deviation of a couple of centimeters/inches could make a differens in torsion stress.
Second, none of these small suvs have propper off-road worthy tires. Even larger suvs (with the possible exception of a few hard-core off-roaders) will have a problem trying to climb the slippery logs on "stock" road tires.
Third, momentum and speed are ke6 when off roading and will make or break a successful off road experience. In my opinion, you tried to go up the slippery logs a bit too fast and you did not use the same momentum on all the test vehicles. A sure way to get stuck off roading is going too fast, which you did with all of these.
Anyhow, this should serve as a lesson to potential buyers to see where not to take their beloved small suvs. Ha!
...and the RAV4 is in the HYBRID trim.
A HYBRID with eAWD compared directly against a Forester! :)
I think it's a fair test, regardless of stock road tires, you can still see which tires spins when the vehicle is stuck, and when the other tires starts to engages. Thank you for doing it, glad to see these kind of reviews. Some people are probably just upset that their cars are shown and failed.
Can you please do the same test in luxury suv (Audi q5, BMW X5 ect) or even better Volvo v60 cross country and Audi A4 allroad.
Sweet comparison! In the USA these vehicles are called small crossovers.
Where do you rank cx5..because in the video you were surprised with how good that was but didnot mention it at the end
It ranks very highly - check out our written review (in the description) for the full details.
I found that it move fastest through all test
Wonder if usual 4x4 rav4 would be better. The one that is not hybrid?
It would be nice to see which vehicle outside of this set could do the slippery log climb with the same type of tyres as a comparison. otherwise that test doesn't have much value
With same tires and same speed no 4x4 will do it. You will need a 6x6.
You went very easy on the RAV4. My wife bought a RAV4 two years ago and it is very nice on the streets and highways but I would never trust it on any off roads.
The only suv to get over the huge log in the center would be a jeep Wrangler or Rubicon.
part 3 of your test is not applicable for this kind of suv's , big hill full of mud with street tyres . even proper 4x4 will have very had time in such case .
Would like to see the how the Jimny tackle these tests
It would do them without any probs :) see CarWow tests by Mat Watson and he compared with the G Wagon & Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I can say that it compared quite good with them for the price you pay its quite a great little offroader :)!
The first test is too easy, the second is too difficult. An intermediate test is missing.
How could the Hyundai Tucson failed on the offset mogul while KIA Sportage passed? It is basically the same vehicle with different face.
Probably the weight. The Tucson looks so heavy than Sportage.
Well they had different gearboxes. You can see the torque converter gearbox of the Kia acting a lot smoother.
It's not a bad video but, where are the Jeep Compass and the Mitsubishi Outlander?
The former is in the repair shop, the latter is being escorted to the retirement village.
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Discovery Sport is the best by far. I wish Peugeot would make the 3008/5008 AWD, it's so close to being a perfect car except for a couple of let downs. Also, not everyone buys a medium SUV for kids.. plenty of singles and couples buy them for the space and ease of entry/exit, not to mention visibility and comfort for long drives.
I regularly tow 2/3 year old Land Rovers of all descriptions that have shit their pants.
Would've been nice to see the Jeep Renegade and/or Cherokee in this comparison. I think either in Trailhawk trim probably would've passed all three tests but would also be fun to see a non- Trailhawk edition compete.
Excellent simple test setup. No BS straight forward comparison. 👍👍
If you would put proper off-road tires on these SUV's, they would probably all pass.
I think the same thing! The third test has no sense with road tyres. Too many mud on the tyres surface makes the tyres totally smooth with no grip at all.
Mitsubishi pajero, Mitsubishi outlander, Kia Sportage, Nissan X-Trail, Renault, Volkswagen
can you please do more light off roading tests in these vehicles without log test.
Thanks for this video - I found it interesting and informative. Thanks also for putting in the easy-find links.
You enter the log test at different speeds, not really fair.
Did you use the X-mode for the climbing with the forester? I've made worst climb ups in my forester.
No jeep compass trailhawk?! Which is the only vehicle in this catagory which is actually designed for the use you are stating in this test.
I am looking to replace my SUV, however I cannot find out any details regarding towing a trailer / camp trailer. Can you advise if there is anything out there? Had an Xtrail st-s manual that was awesome towing and my current honda is not as good regarding towing. Thanks
Have any SUV ever passed that slippery log test before? Would love to see some serious off roaders put on that test
These vehicles are not designed or advertised for off road use. I didn't expect them to do well. I wasn't surprised by the results.
The Forrester got a longer start on the log hill there than the other cars
Nice test this is what we are looking for
Would be interesting, by way of an ‘inter-segment’ comparison if you like, to see how “real” 4WD perform under the same conditions
Great tests! Please keep it up and add some more torture test for us for SUVs ☺️☺️ thanks! More power
Did a proper 4x4 go up the logs?
Yeah... not sure tests are consistent I'm afraid. The AWD we use in our videos would win all these test no worries. That's Holden technology in 2005 beating all 2019 tech.
I swear it looked like you came in a little hotter on the logs in the Forester.
Would letting down tyre pressures help make a difference going up that hill?
Patrick MacLean yes
Yes - we just wanted to test them all right out of the box.
Very interesting, but I felt you should have used all the cars with same tyres type and size. Also I think you should have use Rav4 Edge/Adventure instead of the hybrid. Anyway, Subaru rocks !
Abhinav Pillai the hybrid used the same awd system it’s just as good “bad” as the adventure is lol it sure is one hell of a looker though
Why ASX/outlander SPORT is not here?
This guy doesn’t know how to offroad
FULL THROTTLE ON THE SLIPPERY LOG CLIMB!
Sure lets pop some tyres and damage those suspension.
These are not SUV....these are medium size CROSSOVER.
Nice review Paul. I liked how the CX-5 and the Forester went through the ruts(offset model). Was surprised that the Tiguan exhibited more chassis flex. I have the previous generation from 2012 and the doors do not close well when parked on uneven terrain offroad. I thought that was going to be addressed with the new generation but obviously VW put their attention elsewhere :-). Besides the obvious that the structure on the Tiguan flexes more than the other cars, anyone cares to comment if there are any implications safety wise considering the Euro NCaps rate the cars similarly for safety?
Greetings from South Africa..
I've been to an accident where a Tiguan rolled multiple times at high speed. The accident was severe enough to seperate the engine and gearbox from the car, the debris was strewn over several hundred metres.
The car retained its body structure and the occupants survived, just.
Will the Toyota RAV4 Trail or TDR make a difference?
With a crappy road tires like that no suv would climb that log even with a difflocks
Hi , Would like to know which SUV has passed Log hill test ?
this test had a lot of potential but not done the right way
Where is the Mitsubishi Outlander?
What a shameful test !! Completely useless. I feel bad for that guy
Should've turned traction control off on the Tucson. Would've let the gearbox run MUCH better without stopping you.
Should have the RAV4 Adventure go up there...
Toyota's AWD is crappy, reliable qualities, but pretty crappy. The RAV4 adventure wouldn't make it up there even with different tires. Plus, the adventure trim is just a hoax, at least here in Canada, there are no major differences between it and the XLE trim, Toyota just gave it a minor lift and a beefed up radiator to tow more than the XLE. Add a little more $, skip the RAV4, and you can get a SR5 4Runner, that's more of a proper body on frame off-roader.
The tire marks from the cars in the beginning on the logs are making it easier for the later cars.
The Subaru forester is always the best option
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@@saauuzza what's a fact? a jeep wrangler is a small SUV, and it would destroy a forester offroad. the 4runner is another medium sized SUV that would destroy it offroad as well. so it's the best option for what exactly? what is the fact here?
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You haven't tested the forester while activating the Xmode and deep sand mode. It would've been interesting to see if those functions enabled the forester to go through the logs.
a shame the Mitsubishi Outlander was not included in the test.
GOOD test !! Considered that most of the SUV drivers, are not off-road drivers.
You say two wheels off the ground on door test. I think your wrong on that statement.
"Switch that off because that's annoying" Most cars these days
I would like to see a proper 4x4 ranger hilux etc climb the logs
Agree, with road tyres for consistency
Nice video and comparision
Only SUV that can handle offroad Dacia Duster.
although the last test is hard for all of these cross overs but what failed them all is the tires.
You are super inconsistent with your speed up the logs and through the "mud pit"... think you should have a fixed speed and then go through each obstacle... the mazda out performed the subaru in the mud pit... but you had more speed going up the logs with the subaru than the mazda... and you also went very show with the Hyundai up the logs... and why is there no Ford Kuga/Escape?
It’s impossible to have the exact same speed. We did the tests several times at varying speeds and the results were always the same. As mentioned in the video, Escape wasn’t available for this test.
Juan-Pierre Badenhorst Dacia Duster .
I would’ve liked to see how the boot opened and closed when the body was flexed on all these vehicles
The Tucson, Tiguan and Sportage are the only ones not using plastic in their main drivetrain components.