Cruella: The Huge Problem with Prequels

[@captainmidnight]

What did you think of Cruella?
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[@trinaq]

It was alright, but Emma Stone and Emma Thompson's performances made it a thousand times more watchable and entertaining! 🖤🤍

[@Krowbatt]

It's great

[@Sabrosas]

I havent watched the original, but I liked it

[@harank3828]

I loved it and it is the best live action adpatation

[@pandastical9205]

A movie that no one asked for, and doesn’t need to exist

[@Econofit1998]

I'm just waiting for the Finding Nemo prequel that reveals the barracuda from the opening scene was actually a good guy

[@zenbrown7144]

Guys gotta eat.

[@lordgameboy1303]

And that clownfish killed his parents

[@DeathKitta]

he had babies to feed!!

[@unixmoon4842]

Or where we find out the girl w braces had aquarium fish poison her family the week before her first visit to the office

[@kimtaehyungshandsomeface5958]

i bet starvation led the barracuda to its tragedy

[@simplycande]

Disney: let's make a movie about Cruella. But she has to be relatable. Also, she can't smoke or wear any fur..

[@ivanvereyn9685]

But she can be blackout drunk on work 😏

[@francisabellana445]

I accepted that change cuz fur is not the only fashion genre we all have different opinions

[@TheDeathmail]

@@francisabellana445 To be fair, fur is kinda an outdated thing now... but it was also used to show how evil Cruella was...

[@Jaxan-dq2jy]

Yeah that's kinda the point. I believe that characters can change depending on time that passes, like how myths and urban legends change as they are retold. I don't let a different interpretation of a character influence how much I like a movie as long as the movie is enjoyable.
Granted this movie could have and probably would have been a lot better it it was just an original story.
I personally like cruella as a standalone movie more than I 101 Dalmatians prequel. The original cruella was bad for seemingly no reason but that's all she needed to be in context of the original movies.

[@DANIELGORMANN]

do yall know the meaning of an 'origin story'

[@techwiz81]

I saw people tweeting about the Dalmatians killing her mom and assumed it was a joke

[@MrTurtleMusic]

It’s pretty much a joke cuz the movie doesn’t make that motive

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Post joke world. If it can be made to be cynical and fauxgresive then it'll happen eventually. I can make a joke like there will be a bewitched show reboot and this one character will be made gay just because the previous actor of the same character sounded what we consider today be gay and they'll perpetuate that stereotype just so they can act like they're justified making the switch despite acting like they're so against stereotypes

[@JoeLoquacious]

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[@trekkiedave7910]

The clip is online - it’s frickin hilarious!
Who comes up with this shit?
Is it really necessary that her mother be killed by Dalmatians? Really necessary??
It’s just sooo ridiculous!!

[@juanitacanon3120]

@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 what

[@grfrjiglstan]

"How do we make the woman that wants to kill dalmatians sympathetic?"
"Hmm...what if her mother was killed by dalmatians?"
"...Someone give this guy a raise."

[@bluecorp8557]

And in the end none of them seem to be as evil as killing dogs. They own dogs themselves!

[@abcddef2112]

Tbf I mean why do we put dog so much more above other animals? We kill other animal for fur and other uses. Why should dog be treated special? Other than it is a western culture.

[@bluecorp8557]

@@abcddef2112 because most of America use dogs as pets and dogs are one of the most helpful pets. They can save your life and smell danger.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

Wow wow wow wow wow wow.

[@grfrjiglstan]

@@abcddef2112 If someone killed raccoons for fun, we'd still see them as a psychopath. People don't like to see anyone enjoying the murder of animals.

[@TheElizondo88]

Still looking foward to that Izma prequel where she works as an intern for Kuzco's great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather.

[@booktales1687]

Plot twist: the great grandfather fed her parents to a llama

[@annebruecks7381]

I might watch that 😂

[@dedalionarts6077]

@@booktales1687 Disney: that's , NOT "politicly correckt".
"The Grandfaughter selling her parents, to get an llama, to ride on" ...
There, much more "kid friendly " with mean's, more money, and merchendise for us 😁

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

Honestly, I'd watch Izma anything

[@sadasela]

Ms Laura Bozo HAS to play Yzma. She's literally the real life version of her 😂

[@SoraYoshi182]

It would have made more sense as a prequel to The Devil wears Prada.

[@katharineelizabeth7689]

Now that I'd actually like to see

[@madeofcastiron]

@@katharineelizabeth7689 i'd definitely love a movie about miranda priestly (or anything about the devil wears prada because it's so good)

[@AaronBowley]

honestly that’s what I thought this was no matter how much it tries to shove dogs down my throat

[@jaxkommish]

It is. They just couldnt sell it that way.

[@msmander87]

The Devil Before Prada lol I would watch that

[@isabelzuka4438]

I feel like it could be an amazing movie, if it was about an original character. I know Disney did it because Cruella is a famous name and iconic character but I personally would've preferred if they just made it about an original character

[@danielramsey6141]

Exactly!

[@ambert.3792]

i honestly believe it WAS about someone/thing else all together originally. i think disney squished it into an existing property for name recognition.

[@jliller]

Heck, lean into the IP by having her named after the character for 101 Dalmations.

[@fishraposo7192]

They should have went the joker route and just not tie it into anything. But they tried to have their cake and it eat it

[@stevencontreras84]

But it is good...you shoud watch it

[@eastsidereviews727]

For me, it's the weird obsession that people have with having to make a villain sympathetic or misunderstood. Sometimes, people are just trash and for a story, that's all we need. We know Cruella is going to grow old, kill a bunch of animals for their fur, steal folks puppies for that same purpose, and just be a lousy person. LIke, what is the point of trying to get us to feel bad or root for her when we know what she's going to be. Prequels can work, but I'm just exhausted with these live action Disney movie remakes and if people don't have some self control and not watch, we'll keep getting them.

[@blerksnarfgut2766]

Exactly! I'm not sure what the ultimate goal was in trying to make Maleficent good because it just meant another character (King Stefan) got to be the villain, or now with Cruella De Vil, in transferring the villainy from Cruella to the Baroness. Someone's always got to be the bad guy so why not just leave the bad guys as they were in their original stories/movies? Making evil characters good in no way makes them more interesting imo, it just makes things unnecessarily confusing when comparing the original version of a villain with the new good guy version because plot points or characteristics are either altered or eliminated completely. It's stupid.

[@darlalathan6143]

I think the reasons are "gangsta" media, cynicism and true crime documentaries. Lots of people identified with Robin Hood-type bandits, Wild West outlaws and Caribbean pirates in legends, dime novels, pulps and movies, for robbing the rich and giving to the poor. After Prohibition and the Great Depression, movie audiences admired gangsters in movies for macho violence, rebelling against puritanical authority and rising from rags-to-riches, selling bootleg alcohol to a 70% drinker population. Half of all adults were bullied in childhood, so many people admire Solo Armies as role models. Lots of people lost their homes and businesses to bank panics or foreclosure, so they looked up to bank robbers as their role models. This is why normal human villains are getting sympathetic origin stories and the "antihero" status. Rebellion and wish-fulfillment. Watergate , Vietnam War and the War On Drugs turned much of the public against the government, and caused an increase in gangster (especially Mafia and Latinx drug cartel) movies, for their ethnic crime bosses' rise to wealth and power. Part of drug dealers' appeal is that 70% of USA population have tried marijuana and 60% of our prison population are nonviolent first-time drug users. "Gangsta " rap is a style of music with gangster and juvenile delinquent movie lyrics, by former gang bangers and drug dealers turned rich celebrity musicians from marginalized groups. It appeals to both poor and middle class young people, due to the above wish fulfillment, rebellion and suburban boredom. The true crime mystery genre often shows the origins of famous criminals, such as gangsters and serial killers, who attract audience morbid curiosity with their rare extreme violence and mental health issues. Poverty and child abuse are very common origins of real-life offenders. Ethnic oppression and mental illness are very sympathetic motives in a multicultural society with a 25% neurodiverse population. The latter reason is part of the appeal of psychological thrillers, which show the mental illness or rather, stress-related violence of serial killers. Fractured Fairy Tales, such as Maleficent, "Wicked" and now "Cruella" come from increasing public knowledge via the internet, of the original, pre-Disney versions of fairy tales, which all children's fantasy media are based on. Fairy tales used to be gory Cautionary Tales about nursery bogies, such as Big Bad Wolves, Wicked Witches and Evil Stepmothers, for adults and later pre-teen children to Scare 'Em Straight, so they wouldn't wander off into the woods and risk animal attack, highway robbery, drowning in waterways or serial killers. Cynical audiences may disbelieve their childhood moral lessons in these old stories and identify more with the villains and monsters. They may also sympathize with wolves and witches because of environmentalism and neopaganism. Wolves are an endangered species. Witch hunts killed large numbers of innocent women as scapegoats for crop failures, erectile dysfunction, due to religious fundamentalists.

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

@@blerksnarfgut2766 i think this can all be solved if you forget that this is a prequel and see it as it's own thing imo

[@visattojaner6639]

They dont try to make you sympathize for her she literally committed crime, kidnapped dogs, got her mother arrested and stole everything she had including her workers, mansion, fame, dogs, and riches AND even announced she was evil through her monologue

[@doenaldjonathan862]

@@visattojaner6639 Most people always sympathize with Batman when he's in BG a bad father by adopting kids and turning them into side kicks. Even the Jason Todd thing, where he died because of Batman. Why do you think that is? They believe he's acting out due to his traffic childhood. Even Alfred says it multiple times. A tragic back story always gets people to sympathize with the character, even if they turned into evil incarnate.

[@GenerationWest]

Alright, NEVER heard of the 101 Dalmatians sequel book... And I can see why, because what the hell was that?!

[@JoeChillton]

Cocaine wrote it. Sounds like a prequel to CATS!!!

[@IcyDiamond]

You think that’s messed up? Ariel died at the end of her original story

[@mitchellquestlove6820]

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[@IcyDiamond]

@@mitchellquestlove6820 So you who has a Cruella profile picture, linked a video about why it’s a mediocre movie

[@stickershock66]

It sounds as loopy as the equally-bizarre Iron Giant/Man sequel book The Iron Woman.

[@Hououin_Kyoma]

"Who murdered her with dalmatians...." that's a sentence I've never heard.

[@annabellehe4307]

Dalmatians are pretty vicious lol

[@Destroyer2150]

I never though being dropkicked by dalmations could be a cause of death.

[@annabellehe4307]

@@Destroyer2150 lmaooooo WHAT that's how they animated it???? XD

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[@ultraprincesskenny6790]

@@annabellehe4307 it just jumped on her on a cliff

[@lonelygoat2716]

The scene of the Dalmatians killing her mom is always hilarious to me

[@thatsjonah]

I LAUGHED OUT LOUD IN THE THEATER

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

God i looked up this scene here on yt after seeing comments and it made me laugh so hard, i was in tears for a good 10 minutes after watching that scene, but when it should've been tears of sadness for Cruella's mother it was tears of laughter because of how funny the scene was.

[@ryanb4940]

@@Daniel-wz3yv go watch the movie instead of just an out of context clip. People hating on the movie are going into it wanting to hate it.

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

@@ryanb4940 I don't think i need context to find that scene hilarious, no matter how much people insist there's a sad background story or whatever the scene is what it is and for me it's just comical that they thought making a dog drop kick a woman down a cliff would be tragic instead of funny as hell. And i never said i hate this movie, it's more like i only care about it enough to joke about that scene on the internet and i definitely don't have any plans of watching it.

[@floweyfangirl69420]

@@Daniel-wz3yv not to say it has an emotional backstory, but if you tryyy to forget it's about cruella, it's a really entertaining movie to watch

[@emp9413]

Its kinda offensive that Disney changed the villain from spoiled rich person to poor orphans lol

[@donaldpetersen2382]

Ah the modern Star Trek approach: Attempt to force itself into too many cannon timelines so badly no one considers it cannon.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Ah, the modern Star Wars/Spongebob approach, where they attempt to force in and retcon shit to the point where the universe inevitably falls apart if you think about it too hard.

[@dawn8293]

To boldly go where we have already gone before.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

@@eatatjoes6751 I mean, Spongebobs canon is tenuous at best anyway.

[@hopperthemarxist8533]

People should look up and read “how the death of mid budget cinema left a generation of film makers Mia” - the reason studios do this is because of market decentralization which made massive studios. They never take risks because they want guaranteed returns.
One thing that irritates me also is that these origin stories so often focus on petty personal rivalries and how specific traumas shape people but it carefully elides the broader social and class context. The old 101 Dalmatians actually had more of a class element than the prequel. If Emma stone is going to become to woman in the animation, she also has to have those same mannerisms ,. Which she really doesn’t so it doesn’t feel continuous

[@IcyDiamond]

101 likes!

[@Clay3613]

Okay Jay from RLM...put down the phone.

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

@@Clay3613 Jay from what?

[@t.l3846]

@@RodrickMarsMoon red letter media, the best film reviewers out there except for RICH EVANS

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@Clay3613 Jay is right about modern cinema tho

[@TheLithp]

Of all the reasons this live action remake trend is bad, two stand out to me: First, they feel like they're scrabbling. Is this project about sympathetic villain backstories, like Maleficent? Is it straight remakes with a few tweaks, like Aladdin? Is it completely alternate versions, like Mulan? Honestly, I think the straight remakes are the "best," simply because they don't weirdly butcher the stories, which leads me to the Maleficient-Cruella Problem: If you're going to make a prequel movie about the villain, why not just DO THAT? The dumb dalmation murder plot point almost makes sense if they ACTUALLY have Cruella turn the dogs into a coat as revenge, but they can't do that, because that ruins the kid-friendly girl boss thing they're going for.
But if they really feel the need to make it kid-friendly & sympathetic, just pick another villain. Dr. Facilier, for instance, has that backstory they want. He's someone who grew up poor & turned to his "friends on the other side" to get rich. There's even convoluted but unexplored lore with his mother you could build around, with one version of the script saying he's Mama Odie's son &, of course, the line in the movie implying he had a distant royal connection with a mother whose head he shrunk. That sounds like a really interesting story can be built around that! And he's definitely dripping with 1920's style. Want something more modern? No problem, forget the prequel thing, make it a sequel where he gets out of the underworld in modern times! My point here is, PAY ME MONEY, DISNEY!

[@ugosmith7529]

That would involve effort to match plot and character backstory and that's not something they are willing to do. They've marketed nostalgia to a point they can half ass an existing IP and still make a ton of profit because people will just see it anyways

[@rattyeely]

I was just writing a thing about how Dr. Failicer has a pretty sympathetic backstory, I would actually like a prequel based on him

[@inferiorinferno8859]

There is also a book out there that is is an imagined prequel to Peter Pan, centering Captain Hook that genuinely works. They literally only need to require the rights. Peter Pan is considered as a tale of the selfishness of childhood and he doesn't understands things like how the lost boys needed their parents. In this story, those elements are much more played into.
Hook was actually a lost boy, implied to be the first and was the closest thing the other boys had to a responsible older brother. Peter's selfishness for wanting playmates on an actually very dangerous island often led to various boys getting killed. Hook was the one who did things like burying the other kids and it has taken a toll on him. Then Peter brings in a boy who is about 4. Obviously he's too young to survive on Neverland and Peter tries to get him killed in a game several times. That was the final straw for Hook and he slowly grew disillusioned with Peter.
Then after another massacre diminished the number of lost boys Peter brought in a few more. Amongst them is actually a girl who's been pretending to be a boy and binding her developping chest because back in those days it was easier to survive as a boy on the streets. After the truth comes out and the remaining lost boys along with Hook start treating her like a girl, she and Hook fall for one another. They begin dreaming of escaping Neverland together and taking the little boy with them to form a family back in the real world which is overheard by Tinkerbell.
She rats them out, their escape plan gets destroyed and a rebellion starts. Hook, the girl and the other boys end up killing all fairies as well as a species of gigantic spiders that used to live on Neverland so they can save the little boy from the spiders only to find themselves being hunted down by Peter. Aside from the little boy, only one other lost boy then Hook makes it out alive and the girl was eaten alive by the crocodile because Peter quite literally throws them to the animal as a feast.
Peter curses Hook with immortality and to be trapped on the island forever as an adult. Because if Hook doesn't wants to be his best friend, then he will play with Hook as an enemy. Hook, the 4 year old and the last surviving lost boy join the pirates, dead set on revenge. Hook continues to say that he doesn't cares about killing kids, just one in particular and that as time passed, Peter went on to treat the new lost boys better like occasionally allowing someone to go back home but sometimes Peter still will be his old self and not care when kids are dying (as Hook's rebellion did serve as a lesson for Peter).
Now that was an imagined backstory for Hook that actually made sense for both charracters and the story in general. Peter being a neglicent, selfish little shit is already canon so previous lost boys having turnt on him after a series of tragedies genuinely sounds plausible on it's own, even without Hook having been one. But making Hook their leader does fit his character and fleshes out why he hates Peter with a burning passion.

[@kileychristianson3868]

@@inferiorinferno8859 what's the title??

[@booktales1687]

@@inferiorinferno8859 you can’t just drop an incredible premise like that without the title.

[@TheElizondo88]

I wouldn't consider this a prequel, but Disney did make a terrible mistake by trying to reference the animated and tying as much as possible together. This should stuck to a punk-rock version of The Devil Wears Prada in which Emily Blunt's character goes off the deep end after being cast aside and kept at that.

[@dimitrescu182]

*Emma Stone

[@kb-ih7ni]

@@dimitrescu182 I think they really meant Emily Blunt’s character in DWP, as in the first assistant to Miranda, who was cast aside.

[@dimitrescu182]

@@kb-ih7ni my bad, I haven't seen DWP.

[@iamtheruraljuror9257]

I actually wanted a good British actress to play Emma Stone's role.. But since Emily Blunt is already Mary Poppins...so cast an American instead?
Don't get me wrong... I love Emma Stone. Shes really good at playing snarky roles like in The Favourite. But did she fit the part? I really doubt it. I mean how do you translate from awkward & clumsy to unreedemingly evil?

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

Agreed it actually could have worked if they just made it one of those spin-off movies were the villain character is good for some reason. Like where Dracula is a Detective

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

The only trend I dislike more than *”live action remakes”* .... is when they try to *”humanize”* previous villains. 😒

[@VegimorphtheMovieBoy]

Yeah, I had that same problem as well. The concept that they present in the film I did find to be an intriguing one though. If they had done it with original characters and kept most everything else, I think it could be really great. But because its Cruella and the other characters from 101 Dalmatians, its a bit distracting

[@shawerful5209]

Maleficent is both

[@aaronbreslin6238]

I like learning the tragedy after in cases like Vaders but you cant understand a villain if their actual backstory is so up in the air like this one🤷‍♂️😂

[@curranfrank2854]

Nah, at least it's something more original than literally the same movie but with CGI instead of animation

[@littlered6340]

100% agreed, OP.
People don't get how I could love Disney villains as much as I do, but not want to see them "humanized" in movies like this, and I just have *no* desire for this type of content.
Every time something like this comes out I have to tell a ton of people I am not going to watch it. I do hope this trend passes and they move forward with more original content instead.

[@weeaboojones2451]

This movie had the exact same problem that Joker did, except that the Joker character has been re-written so many times that it doesn't matter if someone comes up with a whole new version of it. In Cruella's case, the problem is far more obvious because the character is so straight forward that people right away felt disoriented with this interpretation.

[@danielramsey6141]

Because there's Never been another version of Her! Even the 1996 live action film is a translation of the animated characters.

[@weeaboojones2451]

@@danielramsey6141 both movies share the same flaw, you could never expect Arthur Fleck to be a challenge for Batman and you could never see these characters in Cruella killing and skinning puppies

[@danielramsey6141]

​@@weeaboojones2451
And yet, I can see Arthur Fleck do it. Why? Because of the events in "The Killing Joke". The desperate Man that became the Joker by accident was just a normal guy who found himself in progressively worse situations before falling into the Acme Vat that changed him into the Malicious force of Chaos that he is. While Arthur Fleck didn't fall into the same Vat, he no doubt became Joker through his experiences with Society and its indifference towards him.
The Joker Movie was just that, tell us another story of "What" could've been his Origin, the only thing is, that instead of them trying to make this version of Joker be its own thing. Its still tied into the narrative with Batman.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

@@weeaboojones2451 yes you can see Arthur fleck challenge batman?. Because jokers thing as never been physical its always been his madness and charisma which the movie shows us in the ebd

[@weeaboojones2451]

@@danielramsey6141 Well yeah, I can definitely see Arthur's motivations and insanity but he doesn't have a criminal mind, how can he challenge the "greatest detective" if he's borderline retarded? Maybe after the riots Arthur becomes the criminal that we all know (afterall his personality changed after he stopped taking his meds) but that's just headcanon, during the movie there's no indication that Arthur is ingelligent in any way. Even so, I think that the connection between Joker and the Batman universe is disjointed, but at least you can see it, Cruella has absolutely nothing to do with the classic character, which was my original point.

[@dallinferguson994]

"If you look at this film as something it objectively isn't, you'll enjoy it" Lol at the mental gymnastics in these comments. The film doesn't work because of the source material it's drawing from, end of story. Had this been an original property, it COULD have worked but 101 Dalmatians was a book before it was a movie, and the character really isn't open to interpretation at all. She's statically, immovably, irredeemably evil in the established canon. She's SUPPOSED to be one-dimensional. That's the point. You can't make that mesh with this and have it make sense and it shows. If you enjoyed the film and think Emma Stone did a great job, that's fine, but the fact that it's a misguided film that doesn't make sense isn't a matter of opinion.

[@floweyfangirl69420]

I loved the movie and I agre 100% with you.

[@ThePonderer]

Pointing out that it’s a different canon isn’t “mental gymnastics,” it’s just...a fact.

[@Birdyboys]

@@ThePonderer except that it still intends to be a prequel lol

[@ThePonderer]

@@Birdyboys it very clearly does not.

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

@@Birdyboys yeah but it's not mental gymnastics either to pretend it isn't i guess

[@TheInspirationalMind]

How long is it going to take Disney to realize that their recent live-action reboots / remakes / prequels AREN’T what people want?
It’s honestly driving me nuts.

[@beez7694]

says a straight male-

[@TheInspirationalMind]

@@beez7694 What does that have to do with anything?

[@bubsbuben914]

@@beez7694 Damn you really are trying to make someone's opinions seem lesser due to things they can't control. You're a horrid person if you genuinely think like this.

[@ridgenyan-botxv367]

To honestly answer your question: when this crap stops making money

[@Bojoschannel]

Because this crap still sells well, sadly

[@Megatron-xs2qe]

Here’s an idea, instead of having Baroness as Cruella’s mother, why not just have Baroness be Cruella herself and Emma Stone be a new character but as the daughter? The plot could’ve been the same but with Emma finding out Cruella’s her mother and struggles with herself to not become evil like her.
At least then making her sympathetic wouldn’t have been so distasteful and could’ve still made a Cruella de Vil movie but have Cruella’s character left as it originally was.

[@lookbehindyourback6910]

I know right, disney can use the ip for name recognition and the story still make sense and in character, really weird no one at disney thinking it like this, and it could be an au like all the remake simp insist all the remake to be

[@Curly124]

Omg love it

[@DANIELGORMANN]

how was the movie 'distasteful' LMAO

[@Megatron-xs2qe]

@@DANIELGORMANN why don’t you figure it out

[@DANIELGORMANN]

@@Megatron-xs2qe so you don't have an explanation? great, says a lot.

[@karnielcashumphries683]

Honestly if they had just made completely new characters with the same story it would have been so much better.

[@LuisGustavoSO]

Right, but then it would have been called a rip-off of The Devil Wears Prada

[@karnielcashumphries683]

@@LuisGustavoSO True but it still would have worked better than this

[@KwadDamyj]

It's current-year Disney we're talking about. Isn't that enough of a death curse?

[@mitchellquestlove6820]

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[@Rhamsody]

IT CERTAINLY IS.

[@alexmaysse607]

@@mitchellquestlove6820 I really thought you were gonna rickroll us

[@jorgevazquez1197]

Bad batch just dropped lol

[@poisonedyoyo]

It seems like after the script fror Aladdin they were like, "Yay, we made a movie Aladdin fans will love, now let's make sure allt he movies that comeafter this the fans of the original will either hate orjust accept even though it has nothing to do with the original! Let's erase Mushu, let's make POngo and Perdita brother and sister, let's do something absolutely terrible in The Little Mermaid no one will exepct! Hee hee hee!"
That's modern Disney for you. And before you say, "What about the Lion King's script?" It was lifted from the original. Literally. They probably didn't even have to make a written copy of it, they knew the lines so well by heart, well maybe not the cast, I'm thinking more the director and whever's idea it was to accept that as a project they could release to the public.

[@maineman5757]

Is this a prequel? I thought it was like a "reimagining" basically being a new character from the cartoon version. I haven't seen it but I've heard some people say that.

[@ThePonderer]

It’s NOT a prequel, at all.
Leave any expectations of it functioning as such at the door.

[@CNXNetwork]

It is not a prequel.

[@kimtaehyungshandsomeface5958]

@@ThePonderer indeed, i bet they will remake 101 Dalmatians with new Anita and Roger.

[@youmadornahhh]

It’s not a prequel at all. It’s a reimagining of the story from the perspective of a popular character. Same as Maleficent. However, I’m my opinion, there is room for the Cruella in this film to turn into the Cruella from the 1991 LA or the animated version.

[@lorenzbackup7024]

i think they should have run with that and to make it more clear call it like Spotted a cruella story or smth of that manor

[@dylanhohn3713]

Instead of being new and innovative, writing strong female characters. The just try to humanize a character whose name is cruel devil. Who wants to skin puppies for a coat.

[@fishraposo7192]

That's because women can never be evil, just misunderstood

[@demonking-zm3rs]

@@fishraposo7192 Kinda pushing your insecurities on the movie a little don't you think

[@heroncolby2842]

@@demonking-zm3rs He was poking at the modern feminist narrative...

[@nominaldegree7614]

@@heroncolby2842 y’all reading a little too much into this. Jesus.

[@dylanhohn3713]

No let's break this down narratively lol.
101 dalmatians is a kids movie.
It establishes a basic moral guideline through character interactions.
This is not a character or person driven plot.
So any attempt to add a third dimension is futile.
The characters are representations of human actions or behaviours taken to hyperbole.
The characters are a set of archetypes used convey a complex set of emotions and behaviours.
Each character has a purpose.
Cruelas purpose is to be the villain. The example of bad human behaviour taken to it's extreme.
So why humanize the literal depiction of evil?

[@Nassit-Gnuoy]

Who tf actually wanted to see an origin story about Cruella Deville?

[@ryanb4940]

I did and it was fucking awesome lol

[@MrTurtleMusic]

@@ryanb4940 same here!!!!

[@BiggerR10]

@@ryanb4940 You think this movie is good?
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

@@BiggerR10 it's stupid to think that people who enjoy a certain thing are stupid, (unless the thing they enjoy damages others) so just fucking let him enjoy the film m8

[@AnonymOus-ss9jj]

I kinda did, but would've preferred the true Cruella.

[@imveritasproductions]

I just don't get why disney is trying to turn a horrible and disgusting person into a feminist icon

[@sabrinasjourney]

....Lol

[@a-aron4148]

If you haven’t been in the last 5 years Hot Topic is literally the new Disney Store so any Disney property would do well with the Hot Topic crowd lol

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

Does every fashion movie require a Stan Tucci character?

[@whyisntitpossible404]

Yes, it's written in the constitution.

[@arjunmanoj2155]

So in conclusion- if you think it's a prequel/puppykiller origin story, it's bad... But as a reimagining/alternate take on the character (one in which she DOESN'T in fact kill the dogs, though she came very close to), it's actually pretty good.

[@Jadorelainie]

This is the take.

[@enegmatixerebro]

The huge problem is Disney thinking people are gonna drop $30 on this
I'd rather buy a combo at McDonald's or somewhere yummy for the same price. At least then I'd be satisfied.
(I'm adding to the mayhem of tilting. It's just funny)
But that's just me. Don't get tilted now.
I said don't get tilted lmao fair warning to the easily triggered

[@ThePonderer]

So far they’re not exactly proven wrong...

[@getmeouttahere1209]

People do that at the theater so I think Disney isn’t wrong for doing what’s been done since the 2000s. theater tickets for my small family is well over 30 bucks. Watching it at home and then buying your own movie snacks is legitimately the same price range as a theater.

[@GenerationWest]

Well, it actually works, extremely well for them though.

[@djangounchained9387]

Be realistic. You want them to sell a brand new movie for like 10$? Cmon now.

[@wallywest4727]

I went to cinema for it, no way was i paying the D+ price and i won't for any of their "premium" content.

[@mikaela2833]

I clicked so fast coz someone told me the movie's actually really good that it made him cry, so this is interesting.

[@ThePonderer]

It’s a real solid movie if you accept that it *does not care* about being a prequel to any existing source material. It’s a movie about a character named Cruella, but it’s NOT a Cruella movie.
Y’know...like Joker.

[@daa589]

@@ThePonderer hmm must be like maleficent. Really enjoyed it for what it was. Disney's live action universe is different from the animated universe. (At least that's what I tell myself 😂)

[@daa589]

Which is different from their home release universe hahahah

[@GellertTV]

@@ThePonderer No don't bring up Joker in this, I'm telling everyone, it's an origin story, they may not show the exact same mannerisms but it's up to us or a 101 dalmatians remake/Sequel to see them act the same

[@freedominart11]

@@ThePonderer how can you accept something that the movie never set out to do? The video you're commenting under makes it a point to say that, yes, this movie IS a prequel and suffers because of it. You can't just ignore what the movie is doing. Plus, Joker exists in an extended multi storyline universe. There is no 101 Dalmatians extended universe lmfao

[@AFunnyNameHere]

You know what drives me mad? No fur. Throughout the whole film. How can you have a whole film about an insane woman wanting to steal puppies for a fur coat and not mention fur in the prequel? Like… that’s her whole character in the original?

[@waseem__600]

Cruella really didn't need a prequel. Making her out to be some sort of Anti hero doesn't work since she skins puppies Lmao😭😭😭.

[@just_delightful]

They allude to her not actually killing puppies in the movie. So they retconed that- I never seen the original- without having baggage, the movie is decent.

[@GellertTV]

It's not a prequel, it's an origin story and she's still a criminal who kidnapped dogs

[@waseem__600]

@@GellertTV so that's a prequel

[@AP-Design]

Dude. That 101 Dalmatians game in your initial clip was a tough game lol.

[@goldvondensternen]

102 Dalmatians, actually. One of my favorite games growing up.

[@WasatchWind]

A video about why Disney remakes suck? My favorite genre of UA-cam video!

[@blueelectro5218]

Man, at this point I’m so done with these Disney live action remakes/reimaginings/requel, etc.
And I’m one to talk I love the MCU projects. But everything else with the company when it comes to live action is so tiring. At this point I kinda miss those direct to video animated sequels, despite ALOT of them being awful at least they were ambitious to tell what happened happily ever after. Idk guys

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

Dw eventually they'll run out of source material with so many remakes being made.

[@eanderson9599]

Most of the MCU movies are pretty bland as well, but they’ve made a few good ones

[@danielramsey6141]

@@eanderson9599
To me, the MCU isn't all connected to the Diseny Machine. Because Marvel Movies were being made Waaay before Diseny entered the picture. The likes of Blade, X-men, Spiderman, Ironman, the Second Fantastic Four movie (not the 1st or the Reboot). They all were varying levels of Great to good, that's not to say they were perfect. But I felt more genuine effort going into some of these films than most.
I Will admit, we Got Stinkers in the Line-up, From Daredevil, Some of the X-Men Sequels, the Fantastic 4 films, Hulk's First solo movie, ELEKTRA! (oh god, that film was bad). And Captain Marvel.
I won't put Thor The Dark World, Avengers 2, or Antman or Dr. Strange into the bad category, mainly due to those films being pieces to a much grander story, and I generally do like that they are just precursors Events that were building up for Civil War, Infinity War & Endgame respectively! It took alot of planning and group think to get there and and I don't blame Kevin, the various Directors or the Rest of the Marvel Movie Staffers for some of the choices they had to make, but as a whole, the films really have become a universe all on their own!
So when I hear people Attacking the Marvel Universe and calling it bland and/or a Disappointment. Let me Ask you this...DID YOU, Not Cheer when the Whole Cast Of MARVEL HEROES Straight Up Appeared before Thanos and his Army just to back up Captain America?! If you said no, than you are a Liar.

[@Fantallana]

@@danielramsey6141 Captain Marvel was better than Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Doctor Strange, and Ant Man tbh. It just felt like a phase 1 movie, which was jarring after Black Panther and Ragnarok.

[@ryanb4940]

But a lot of them are actually good lol. Not lion king. But the rest have been great. Thought I’d hate Aladdin but ended up having a lot of fun. Cruella isn’t a live action remake, it’s its own thing. They already did a live action remake in the 90’s.

[@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051]

What bugged me the most about this film is that it tries to make us feel sympathetic for a villain whose motivations were driven by nothing more than obsession. Cruella only wants to kill the dalmatian puppies just so that she can make them in to a fur coat, because she's obsessed with furs, they're practically her religion. It doesn't make sense for her eventual agendas to be revenge on the death of her mother. It's like we're talking about 2 completely different characters

[@ThePonderer]

We ARE talking about 2 different characters, and for me that’s why the film works. Trying to make us sympathize with the previous version of Cruella would’ve been a ludicrous task, so the movie just takes a completely different person, names them Cruella, and has us sympathize with them instead.
It was frankly the smarter choice and made for a better movie. This Cruella and THAT Cruella are two distinct figures.

[@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051]

@@ThePonderer I do feel like it completely goes against Cruella's character, and if there ever is a sequel to it (hopefully not), it's likely that it'll riff on the plot of 101 Dalmatians, as the post-credits scene has Cruella giving Pongo and Perdita to Roger and Anita as gifts, and what then? It'll be especially confusing

[@TheFourthWinchester]

You haven't seen the movie. She doesn't kill anything and is likable.

[@ThePonderer]

@@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 worry about a sequel if/when one happens. Right now, THIS movie, on its OWN terms, is a standalone narrative.

[@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051]

@@ThePonderer they've just announced a sequel, so I worry now

[@davidkonevky7372]

Imagine if instead of trying to be a harley queen clone, this movie actually tried to be outlandish and absurd and didn't try to show Cruella in a good light. Kind of like how dr.doofenshmirtz although had a very tragic childhood, is still portrayed as extremely evil and absurd in his ideas. Also, why not make her growing obsession with fur a part of the movie? As long as the movie doesn't treat it at something ethical, it would immensely improve the quality and complexity of the character.

[@viroshanargiri4641]

Still he was better father to Vanessa than Phineas and Ferb parents who always never spend time with their children ,let them do outlandish thing.He often drop whatever thing he do to help daughter , hell even quit being evil for because of her.

[@xero1048]

When I saw the trailer for this my only question was “why?”. As in who was asking for a cruella prequel?

[@eatatjoes6751]

No one.

[@demonking-zm3rs]

No one has to the truth is most people don't know what they want until its in front of them.
Its kinda disingenuous to say that the market doesn't favor retelling's and remake's

[@joshuawilliams8428]

i was asking why as well, but when i watched it, the movie was actually good.

[@javiermaciasleon3609]

I just don't consider it a prequel, I just consider it a different take of the character of Cruella. I don't think that they are both set in the same "universe", sort to speak. There are a lot of contradictions between the both films, they just don't make sense together so I treated it like a separate film.

[@ThePonderer]

Exactly!

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

That would be great but Disney down right said it was connected and a prequel so it’s hard to look past that. If they never said that and didn’t apply it so much in the movie I would totally agree with you.

[@ThePonderer]

@@PSYCHOWORLD marketing is marketing, the movie is the movie. Disney can say whatever they want but it doesn’t change what’s demonstrably on screen.

[@PSYCHOWORLD]

@@ThePonderer yeah and on screen it is very obvious they were making this a prequel lol and of course marketing can change how the audience views a film lmao marketing can be the difference of someone even going to see a film in the first place.

[@kimtaehyungshandsomeface5958]

@@PSYCHOWORLD Disney maybe said it's a prequel but perhaps a prequel that will led to a new 101 dalmatians. i mean if it's prequel it contradicts a lotta things in 1996 film. No offense, but Anita's race and Roger's job already contradicts the whole 1996 film.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

Disney has the best female villains in history. Yet they are defanging them and making them likable while keeping the men the same. That's sexist af.

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

Idk man I've seen great male characters from them but whatever

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 This is not about men.

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

@@TheFourthWinchester oh ok well the woman are still ok but i get what you mean though

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 From being iconic to being okay is not okay. We have almost no female villains and they are ruining the ones who existed before.

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

@@TheFourthWinchester you mean no new female villains right?

[@AlbertoFolres]

Why is she a genius, does she have the Mulan Strong Woman Chi?

[@NASkeywest]

Disney executive: “OK. So, why does Cruella hate Dalmatians so much she wants to skin their puppies and wear them?”
Disney writers: “…..hmmm. Wait..I GOT IT! What if, trained assassin Dalmatians actually drop kick her mom off a cliff into the ocean!!”
Disney executive: “…..that is the most….BRILLIANT WRITING I HAVE EVER HEARD! Here is $100 million dollars, let’s make a movie!”

[@darkozosel9114]

Bro, that sounded so ridiculously stupid thatbI thought you were all joking, until I saw the scene. How, just how.

[@carmillakarnstein8109]

@@darkozosel9114 It is a joke, at least the part of her hating Dalmatians for this. She doesn't hate them at all in the movie and even adopts them.

[@Skydude69]

I think the future here is a new 101 dalmations live action movie where a new villain is introduced and cruella is a new anti-hero. If you look at this in the same frame as Maleficent, it's glaringly obvious this is the new template for their villainesses.

[@despresso3686]

Yeah I feel like they r about to make a new 101 Dalmatians movie. To "fix" all the issues of it not making any sense. I'd like them to tbh. But the classic will always be the best

[@Zombiesnyder13]

We just can't trust Disney, can we?

[@jliller]

We can't trust major movie studios. Every time there is a very successful movie or movie series they take the wrong lessons from it then proceed to beat the idea to death and beyond.

[@ryanb4940]

But it was a really good movie though.. and they’ve been producing quality content for Star Wars and Marvel. Sooooo

[@thanosamazing72]

@@ryanb4940 yes exactly

[@corncrackerkid5092]

Seeing how they treated Luca, a movie the director and cast actually put a lot of dedication into and just stuck it on Disney+ I’m not surprised

[@ryanb4940]

@@corncrackerkid5092 it was “just stuck” onto Disney+ so it could actually be released… because… you know… the worldwide pandemic… or were you gone for that?

[@davidg2927]

Dude, I was surprised at how much I liked this movie. And I don’t like most of the live action remakes Disney has made.

[@charliedelfino2102]

I went into it thinking "alternate universe" and I wasn't dissatisfied so I'd suggest that if you're unsure

[@kb-ih7ni]

Yeah I just separated the two worlds, I didn’t consider it a reboot either, just an isolated story with a character coincidentally anamed Cruella. Puppies were just a weird element in it lol

[@mickdipiano8768]

This is the way

[@FKA91]

Yeah. I enjoyed the movie because, from the first 20 minutes, it doesn't match the original story. And clearly, it doesn't want to. It takes place in the 70s, Cruella was born with that black and white hair🤨, she isn't rich and had to start from the bottom. Anita is a reporter, her childhood best friend and she's black. Jasper is also black (and pretty cute ngl 😏) and with Horace, are now Cruella's kind of adoptive family. Etc.
It was easy for me to just take it as "another universe" situation.

[@lukematthews1442]

I agree, I really enjoyed the middle part of the movie. Emma Stone was a joy to watch, her performance was great and the movie was pretty engaging. I liked the setting, the tone, and the production design. The issue is of course it had to be a prequel to a well-known IP. I think if you took out all the 101 Dalmations stuff you'd actually have the makings of a pretty great standalone movie. But Disney just doesn't know how to do that. Everything is a sequel or reboot or adaptation. Seems like Pixar is the only Disney property that is competent anymore at making solid original content.

[@gamerxxgaming7075]

Imagine Disney makes animated remakes of the live actions

[@Lucky_Daguenet]

I rather enjoyed it similar to maleficent. I just treated it like a reimagining tbh.

[@hopperthemarxist8533]

Nah you’re wrong it’s bad

[@ktmorange02]

Haha I seriously enjoyed the movie and I understand what’s he’s talking about it’s like they have to involve the franchise or it won’t sell.

[@nominaldegree7614]

@@hopperthemarxist8533 what makes it bad. And don’t say “because I think it’s bad” . Clearly your capable of building an argument right?

[@gloryramos2526]

If you take it for what it is it's just a fun crazy film some good acting lovely wardrobe decent soundtrack not every movie has to be Oscar worthy to be enjoyed. I took my mom and some family on her birthday once quarantine restrictions dropped to see this at the local theater it was a good time we laughed got confused and were surprised unlike with some other disney remakes I can understand why people don't like it but I've seen worse films I think for what it was it was a fun interpretation with other interesting elements in the film people can hate on it if they want or we could just stop trying to be uptight mini critics have some fun or just don't watch it if disney reboots or reimaginings of old concepts aren't for you.

[@calciferpendragon6810]

it was pretty forgettable. thank god i work at a movie theater so i can use a free ticket

[@MrTurtleMusic]

Not one outfit was forgettable

[@agstinacueva1673]

@@MrTurtleMusic that red dress with the puffy hair was the most cringe worthy thing i ever seen. She just looked like a halfassed goth from 80's berlin

[@skyrogue1977]

It failed because Emma Stone doesn’t look like a Thousand Year old mantis.

[@mdrglxix3699]

I think the problem here is to look at this movie as a prequel to the other movies, it is very clear that it is not, this one is a reimagining

[@captainmidnight]

That goes out of its way to set up the original film...

[@anthonyperalta4623]

@@captainmidnight For me this was clearly a re imagining that has strong nods to the original. This Cruella clearly loves dogs, and will not try to skin them. She even adopts the dalmatians and they seem to be loyal to her. To me the film was setting up its own re imagined squeal and not the original. I mean the original is set in the 1960's this was set in the 1970, there are not literally connected.

[@mdrglxix3699]

@@captainmidnight massive disagreement, you seem set to believe in your take so there's not much anyone can say to help you see you missed the point. By the end of this version Cruella is a completely different character to the Cruella in the animated version, I don't know how this version is set up for that other version, but you already decided what fits your narrative so, more power to you! still enjoy the channel though 👍

[@Elementa2006]

Of all the media that use this "villains reimagined as anti-hero protagonists" trope, the manga/anime 'Moriarty the Patriot' is the only good one.

[@inferiorinferno8859]

And Christina Henry's Lost Boy, that reimagines Hook having originally been a lost boy who grew tired of Peter's selfishness and started to dream of escaping and growing up. But Peter couldn't stand losing their bromance and after Peter ruined all of Hook's chances of becoming happy, Peter cursed him to be stuck on the island forever, immortal but as an adult. So Peter could still play with him for all eternity.

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

Xena did such a good job everyone forgot she was a One-Shot villain from Hercules.

[@santiagogarza8121]

And Kobra Kai 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

I found it odd how for a prequel to 101 Dalmatians, this film takes place in the 1970s, even though the original movie took place in the 1950s.

[@SansDemStrings]

I get the prequel idea - but I thought of it more as a reimagined origin story. I don't think this Cruella would skin puppies but did smirk at the idea of it flouted by the newspapers and media coverage.
Overall I enjoyed the movie - and definitely find it the best of the Disney live action movies. Which doesn't say much, but there are my thoughts.

[@tyruswillier7358]

I didn't like the setup of a whole new version of Cruella just make a new movie and pick any random name if it's a new personality I knew obviously a stylish hunger games dress wearing Emma isn't gonna skin puppies not sure she's capable of portraying a villain so the movie was predictable as another cash grab

[@SansDemStrings]

@@tyruswillier7358 Definitely a cash grab. The head of Disney Bob Chapek is only considering project using established IP so for the foreseeable future I am not expecting anything totally new. But also knowing that I thought was more new than the other more recent Disney live action.

[@ayleentrujillo2736]

Unlike the other live action Disney movies, this is just a breath of fresh air. What I did like was the ending, the fact that she planned the entire plot of 101 Dalmatian explains why she was so into the puppies well before they were born. It’s so evil, and that’s cruella.

[@fortniteepicgamer76]

I think if Disney just made an original movie. More people would see it. (Also it would be a better movie)

[@austinreed7343]

They tried with Raya.

[@KalaVerag]

I see cruela as a stand alone movie like an other version of the character. Like batman and the batman who laughs. And I never heard this been a prequel I need to look that up

[@Sakattack2023]

Who fuckin cares C O N S O O M E R. They’re recycling stories and characters to repackage for idiots.

[@youmadornahhh]

@@Sakattack2023 Triggered

[@thatrandomcomment968]

@@Sakattack2023 u mad? Cruella is great

[@Sakattack2023]

@@thatrandomcomment968 Why don’t you just say “I’m an idiot and am entertained by whatever anyone tells me to”

[@mrmcpopcorn9159]

@@Sakattack2023 people are allowed to like what they like and you can’t change that, so don’t try making people feel less for liking something you don’t

[@TheGhostOfTK]

Just saw the movie, and idc what anyone says about this movie, this movie was fantastic, made me Actually care about the characters, and how DEVIOUS she was, as a dude, can't say I wasn't a little attracted to that, they definitely didn't disapoint in the slightest with this movie, I was VERY invested in it

[@juanpedrodelacruz7348]

Cruella fails because they want it to be a "DISNEY VERSION" that supposed to be not. It was just PLAYING SAFE kind of movie.

[@ethanol1586]

I can't wait for them to make an Aladdin prequel where they defend Jafar and say he actually loved Jasmine

[@michelledang6834]

Team Starkid actually did a fun musical on youtube called twisted that took from the perspective of Jafar which is fun. They also did the harry potter musicals. They're really funny and clever

[@equinox6944]

Ethanol hahaha yes. In this day and age it’s cool apparently to turn evil villains into victims, so it Wouldn’t surprise me if they did

[@therealianclarkfanpage6028]

When the Mother died I deadasss laughed so hard in the theater like cmon stop trying to humanize her like that

[@Akaketsugami]

I think its hilarious how Cruellas mother gets killed by dalmatians, thats honestly very funny

[@ExiledQ]

cruel batman of the fashion world

[@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115]

Watching a Disney prequels, sequels and "re-imaginings" A.K.A. reboots is like watching someone try to put two halves of two completely different puzzles together. It simply doesn't work!

[@platinum11110]

Each year Disney descends into a deeper level of crap. And has been for several years now.

[@RubenTricky]

I just watch these movies with the original put aside. Don't think about it. I really loved Cruella as a standalone movie

[@mr.moviemafia]

Either way, I think Stone absolutely nailed the role

[@cavemanm8902]

📠

[@MrBattlekiwi]

I watched cruella last night and me and my friends all enjoyed it, it definitely doesn’t work as a like proper prequel but the movie itself is pretty great imo

[@jacksul2087]

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, It is a Movie, movies are made to entertain, and just because it involves a character that people are familiar with doesn't mean it has to change its story structure for that character. There are hundreds upon hundreds of reimaginings of beloved characters and people love them. Cruella is not a prequel, plain and simple.

[@jacksul2087]

I feel like you hold too much attachment to the old movies, and so you're eyes are clouded by nostalgic gas, covering your sense of taste in movies. The movie is supposed to be camp, its supposed to not take itself too seriously. I don't want to see a shitty version of the devil wears prada where the protag is an envious dickhead, I want to see Cruella.

[@darlalathan6143]

I think the reason for all this discourse about movies is that filmmaking is a business, movies are a product movie studios make for fans or customers. Bad B movies are a quality-control issue for consumers. When one pays for movie tickets, popcorn and colas, one expects to see a fun movie. Poor scripts, acting, special effects or ethnic stereotypes spoil the customer's experience with the product or service of entertaining them. Movies and other film media are one-way communication, so studios can only tell what viewers want to see by examining old movies or their greatest hits, hence all new movies are sequels, prequels or remakes of older media, such as cartoons, comics, video games and television shows.

[@jacksul2087]

@@darlalathan6143 Just to clarify, it sounds like you're half agreeing with me, correct?

[@chinrys06]

At this point. I don't even care how good Cruella is or isn't. I just want new content from Disney that isn't a rehash of something they've already done.

[@demonking-zm3rs]

....Disney was literally founded on taking old stories and remaking them

[@chinrys06]

@@demonking-zm3rs true but at least they weren't a rehash of their own IPs

[@jamescaldwell2357]

I liked Cruella. It had a slow start, but by the mid, it really picked up. When I realized that this was intended for younger audience, which took about 5 minutes in, I dropped all expectation and enjoyed the film. The fashion was great, so artsy!

[@diegoprodriguez]

They should’ve taken the Maleficent route where they they took the characters and gave them a story that is similar, but allows for them to make changes.
Outside of Marlficent’s love for Aurora and the Moors v Ulstead Subplot, the basic plot line of the movie remains relatively the same.
And both those changes affect Maleficent because it gives us a reason to care about her. She lost her wings and her friend. She has every reason to hate humanity in that film. Which is what makes her choice to help Aurora that much more meaningful.
TLDR: Cruella should’ve been more like Maleficent and less like whatever they were trying to do in this film.

[@DWAkhaten]

7:50 Cruella's tragic backstory was easily my favorite part of this movie: everything about that scene was hilarious.

[@ishaanwankhade4834]

Disney: Alright we're thinking of doing another remake, maybe making another villain backstory. Any ideas?
Person: *raises hand*
Disney: Yes, Person?
Person: You know that movie Joker with Joaquin Phoenix?
Disney: Yeah...
Person: Well let's do that...but with Cruella
Disney: Fantastic! And maybe we'll do it worse!
Person: Wait what-

[@ThePonderer]

Cruella fails as a prequel...but it’s NOT a prequel.
I share basically none of this video’s issues because I check any and all expectations that this film “has to function as a 101 Dalmatians prequel” at the door. This movie really is *not trying* to BE that. It’s emphatically not even attempting to be in line with the other takes on the character, and once you accept that this is basically Cruella in Name Only, it because much easier to take the film as a good time on its own terms.

[@skelleyd9097]

sounds like they tried to make joker but forgot that joker was intended to be 100% a stand-alone story with no canonical connection to the rest of the DCEU. i hope they figure out that using Joker’s formula let’s filmmakers still tell interesting stories (even if it’s basically just a mumble core taxi driver riff) under the facade of existing IPs instead of companies feeling beholden to those IPs in the writing process. let the existing IP name boost sales & then take the story in an unexpected & new direction!! also, don’t ruin the whole idea of the original like Mulan, Mary Poppins Returns, or Rise of Skywalker.

[@GellertTV]

It's not a prequel

[@ThePonderer]

Nope, Cruella is a 100% stand alone story too. Everything you’re describing is EXACTLY what Cruella does.

[@Soul-cry1]

What upsets me is they spent $200 million on a movie no one asked for, imagine what good that money could have done..

[@Coolcoolcooldude]

I really enjoyed this movie. I do see some people saying that if she doesn't want to turn dogs into coats then that is not Cruella. I do see their point. But what I wanted was a good movie. To me a good movie has a good story and good characters. And that is what I got coming out of this. But that is my opinion. I also see some people complaining why a villain needs an origin film. Well I consider this like X men first class. Magneto was a villain that wanted to commit genocide and First Class we saw why. Which is kind of funny considering First Class was originally going to be Magneto origins film.

[@niccottone8158]

You always unlock hidden my memories with your little commercial breaks. I remember playing that 101 Dalmatian game as a kid

[@jrjoanes]

I like this movie a lot, however, it does fail as prequel. There's no way that this version of Cruella turns into cruella from 101. But on its own this movie was fun for me. I thought Emma Stone was great and while Cruella isnt a dog killer in this she's not like an angel or anything

[@Legault6789]

This is exactly how I feel about solo, it’s a good movie but it’s just strictly worse because it’s trying so hard to be a prequel for a character that definitely doesn’t need one

[@freedominart11]

The entire premise of the Cruella movie is just bad. Nobody asked for the girl boss backstory to the dog skinning socialite.

[@ThePonderer]

Hence, that’s not what the movie ends up being.

[@freedominart11]

@@ThePonderer did we... not watch the same video we're commenting under?

[@ThePonderer]

@@freedominart11 I ain’t talking about the video, I’m talking about the movie. The movie *isn’t* the backstory for a dog skinning socialite. That’s not what this version of Cruella is.
This is the backstory for a completely different character who just happens to have the same name.

[@freedominart11]

@@ThePonderer you say that, but nothing the Cruella movie did tried to separate the two films. The video present gives a pretty comprehensive look on where the movie fails as a prequel and where it is only passable as a standalone experience. Disney does not care about its IPs, as they DID market this movie as a prequel to the 101 Dalmatians animated film. You can't just ignore the function of a film. That's like saying the Star Wars prequels films aren't intended to be watched as prequels or that the Disney sequels are just new reimaginings of the same characters.

[@ThePonderer]

@@freedominart11 that’s a stupid comparison because the Star Wars movies all share a continuity. Cruella and 101 Dalmatians demonstrably, obviously do *not.*

[@jaygibbs_]

I don't get the no smoking thing, since the film was filled with so much crime and murder. WTF Disney?!
Also, Emma Thompson was hilarious!! Loved her!!

[@alexdelaloire8739]

The thumnail: why cruella fails
Me: "what? but it's not!!..."
Also me watcging the video: "oh, it's because you treated it like a prequel...but it's not"

[@yamataichul]

The smoking is PART of her character. This 2021 movie doesn't even try to make it at least closer to book Cruela

[@seankkg]

It's so funny because it'd be a fun and possibly iconic movie if it was its own story. Imagine that.

[@SnatchBandegrip]

Without being tied down to an existing property, and a little more freedom to be irreverent and risque, I think we could've gotten a modern-day Rocky Horror out of this.

[@doctorvanya]

I liked Cruella's backstory from the original novel; she was expelled from school for drinking ink and one of her ancestors was literally the Devil.

[@raxxie]

sadly, this is kinda what I expected from Cruella

[@unofficialmeme5972]

I don't know anyone who even wanted this movie.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Idiots on Tumblr are defending the crap out of it.

[@ryanb4940]

It’s a fucking great movie. I didn’t ask for it but I absolutely loved it and don’t know anyone who hated it.

[@unofficialmeme5972]

@@ryanb4940 I guess there are two kinds of people.
Still, you say you don't know anyone who hated this film as if you've been living under a rock.

[@CartoonsSerbia]

@@unofficialmeme5972 People who "hated" this movie hate it for "failing as a prequel", which it's not, it's an alternate universe, a completely different depiction of a character; or because of the "can Disney stop with those live-actions" whining, which is stupid, disregarding a movie because of other movies + it was for sure one of, if not the best live-action movie they made, it was really great.

[@unofficialmeme5972]

@@CartoonsSerbia Well tell you what. I'm going to give this movie a watch once it's taken off of Disney's premium access bullshit because I'm not paying 20 extra dollars for the bonus of one extra film to watch. And then I'll tell you if I hate the movie for any of the reasons you listed or not.

[@yanoquierodormir8059]

I'm usually with you in your reviews, but not in this one, you got too caught up with Cruella being a prequel. The movie does a lot of things so well, and it's well executed, the pacing is good and the characters are interesting, and don't get me started with the photography, makeup and vestuary. It's really a joy to watch. It's far from perfect but I do really and honestly think this movie deserves more than this.

[@ThePonderer]

Agreed

[@Seorori]

Because it is set up by Disney to be a prequel, and it restricted the possibility of the scriptwriter and producer turning it into a better movie. In the end, Cruella will be the villain who hunt dogs no matter what perspective this movie is trying to change.
Basically it would have been a great movie if it borrows the name and that's it.

[@Wico90YT]

It's because this wasn't an actual prequel, but a reboot. She'll never kill dogs, but will embrace the "villain" role in the press because it makes her money. It's just Disney's The Devil Wears Prada.

[@taylordacquelclayton]

Let’s be honest. Once Upon a Time did it better.

[@RandomSkyeRoses]

They did a lot of current Disney trends better

[@corncrackerkid5092]

Yep, I’m mad THIS got a 30 dollar paywall AND a theater release over Luca, y’all.. But you have no idea how disappointed I was when Disney didn’t go all the way and it was revealed Cruella didn’t really turn Mommy Dearest’s dogs into a fur coat.

[@Abell_lledA]

Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos🎈

[@porassrivastava8242]

I love how the Twitter fandom has claimed this as a feminist movie and that "it's not made for men" When it's literally about a woman who skins puppies 🤣🤣🤣

[@eatatjoes6751]

Tumblr does that too.

[@demonking-zm3rs]

..No
Kind of hate it when people pull the Twitter shit. A couple of people with bad opinions isn't controversial. So please don't give those people a platform by spreading that shit. We get enough UA-cam click bait

[@jesterisinsane]

eh it seems like a cash grab

[@DanielFolsom]

Is it just me ... or did the "what if the villain was actually sympathetic, as a prequel would establish" genre start with the Broadway musical Wicked? Wicked (while getting some mixed reviews) was good, but it was also campy as hell. It featured hyper-polished-Disney-esque songs, some funny dialogue, and enough winks to let you know that it knew it was absurd (it also portrayed the Witch/Elphaba as concededly having a bit of a dramatic breakdown, explaining the harsher Wizard of Oz lines).
Toe expand on the great point you made here: the start and end problem with Cruella the animal killer is that an animal killer-a killer of literal puppies-is basically as irredeemable as you can get in a children's movie. It would've taken an exceedingly clever bit of writing to contextualize that in a way that wouldn't make you hate the character-and Cruella didn't do that ... the "dalmatians killed my mom" plot ... definitely didn't work. And, ultimately, the strain that the writers clearly felt to connect the film to 101 Dalmatians-a semi-iconic work- basically ensured that this would be a bogged down mediocre film that would do nothing but disappoint.