Slot Mortiser - handheld & cordless using the Makita trim router
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In this video I make a handheld cordless slot mortiser using the Makita trim router and some scraps of wood and metal from around the workshop.
Pask Makes Handheld Mortiser video: bit.ly/2NOfipe
Pask Makes plans: bit.ly/2wNGv4h
Makita Cordless Trim Router DRT50 (Amazon UK): geni.us/0jdS
Makita Cordless Trim Router XTR01 (Amazon US): geni.us/SBpfAq
Makita Corded Trim Router RT0700 (Amazon UK): geni.us/Zsfbo6
Makita Corded Trim Router RT0701 (Amazon US): geni.us/DbRi
Katsu trim router (a well regarded, cheap clone of the Makita RT0700) UK: geni.us/vtNK35G
Makita 8mm collet (Amazon UK): geni.us/6gkT
8mm Spiral Upcut Bit (Amazon UK): geni.us/5EAH
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I'm used to larger, corded routers ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
Thanks, I realy appriciate the last part of the video where you so honestly discuss the shortcomings of this design. knowing what NOT to do is a very important part of learning.
you correctly identified where you got your inspiration and gave credit. Then walked us though challenges in design,. That in itself is actually more useful than a channel that shows only success. Knowing the challenges for newbies like me gives me more information of what I might be getting into. Thanks.
The conclusions are really useful. Regardless of how good the design or execution is, it does not come close to the original. For all those who appreciate the system from Festool, frustration intervenes when you have to purchase it. The more attempts to replace the tool appear, the more you realize that it is worth the money.
I love those glimpses of the kitty. It makes me smile every time.
It's nearly 2022 and I'm just finding this. I enjoyed watching this video, seeing your process, and I appreciate your thoughts at the end. Nicely done. Thank you for sharing.
It makes me very glad that you got full enjoyment out of the accidental, anthropomorphic "faces" when they manifested themselves. Likewise, I'm glad for your transparency on all aspects of this build. Just a very well rounded video.
Thanks for your honest thoughts regarding this project. I’m in awe of anyone who attempts to make a tool.
So it's a great journey to illustrate how much better someone else's was. Thumbs up. It saves us a lot of heartache. We've all built jigs we needed that worked and we never use any because there's something so much better. Thanks.
"I'm burned out with this project" Thanks for your honesty! That was a really refreshing change. It's extremely rare to see humility on UA-cam videos. --- Also: your UA-cam wood sign is so nice it made me want to click on it ;)
Don’t beat yourself up. The project was challenging, you had a go (4 times) and produced something that worked. The project was well presented as well and was entertaining. Well done.
Thank you!
The truth is that you just offerrd New ideas and possibilities for other projects. Thanks for your honesty and well done 👏 👏
It took me 2 years to write LOL
It helps a lot showing us where it went wrong and the whole build and concept of the road you went down. I am sure you will find in your work along the way the experience reminds you and stops you buggering up paid work.
A bit late to the party here, but thanks for a refreshingly honest video.
Many makers edit out mistakes/re-shoot footage/don't upload, in order put forth only what they perceive to be what viewers want....a perfect build.
That's not the case - learning and experience come from recognizing what does, and doesn't work as intended.
Real life projects don't always work out, there's always some hiccups and especially more-so when adapting your own plans from those of someone else. What didn't work for you, might inspire another viewer to head down a different track and come up with a solution.
Your time spent producing this video, for the benefit of others, is greatly appreciated. Do not feel that your time spent on this project was wasted...."If I could have my time back again, I would have just bought Neil's plans and built that...." would not have given you an opportunity to try out different approaches to the same goal, and learn from your own experience.
Subbed from this vid alone, and now off to watch some of your other content.
Thanks for your channel Keith.
The "hello" s when the faces show up, cracked me up.
I really respect your honesty, I still think that it is very normal to design something then modify it 10 times or more,so don't give up.
Thanks for sharing. 😁
Dear Keith, I appreciate your honesty but I wouldn’t be too harsh on yourself. Many people exaggerate the good in their work and gloss over the flaws. All this means is you have a very good starting point for a revision that takes all the good features and corrects the bad ones. That’s how a good product gets made. Nothing of quality happens easily. Well done.
Mate you should not apologise. You took your time to show us your take on the project. Neil also went through some prototypes. After watching your video it did make me happy that I got Neil’s plans. Thanks for sharing Keith.
I greatly appreciate your time and then the commentary on the good, the bad and the disappointing. I watched Pask Makes just prior to your video and you are spot on with the info.
Makes you appreciate how good the tools companys' make, are. My almost retired boss always went on about how good the tools today are and he wished he was an apprentice today
You get 10 points for honesty.
Great honest build. Nice to see the rough with the smooth - too much edited perfection is alienating.
Hey man, you tried several versions and got a working result in the end. That's a whole lot better than not trying at all, good for you and thanks for the video.
Hahaha! "And then I forgot how hot the metal gets when you cut it"!!!! Genial! It happened to me countless times!!!
Your candour and honesty is good
Hi, I must say completely without issues that it was such a pleasure to watch a fellow Brit making something so
Intricately instead of our friends across the pond. Everything you purchased is easily available here at home also
Well done.
Brilliant video, appreciate the amount of thought that went into the project, but most of all your honesty. We never stop learning when we do these kind of projects and you have helped a lot of fellow UA-camrs. Good job mate.
Subscribed because of your honesty at the end, I could see myself saying the same thing. made me smile
Nice one Keith, like your honesty about the project. I paid for Neil's plans (they are well worth the 10 Aus dollars) and followed his design, I just added oil point on the slides to keep things "moist". I must admit i was going to go your route with the 8mm collet as finding a 6mm spiral bit for my router was difficult. But i managed to get one at Wealdons in the end. Anyway i have one now and use it when i want more strength than biscuits and i can't be bothered to do mortice and tenons. I totally admire your ability to complete projects and film them, keep up the good work.
Thank you for sharing your project, for investing your time.
everything you did and showed will surely help others to improve but with the knowledge that you leave here and that will save time for those who want to continue improving it.
very good work.
greetings from Argentina
One of the things I really like about you Keith is your honesty and pragmatism. I hear what you’re saying about the time investment vs end result, but the experience you gained is beyond measure. You still have that thing you can use in a pinch without shelling out a fortune and your problem solving skills have been further honed. It may not feel like it when there is paid work piling up and putting pressure on but it’s still a win in the grand scheme of things. 👍🏻
Cheers Matt. Still want a domino though haha!
Rag 'n' Bone Brown Don’t we all! But unless I sell a kidney there isn’t going to be one on the horizon! 😂
On my router jigs I always us the base to permanently attached a cheaper router. I find that it hold much better than hose clamps and I work around that. Good idea but it looks very time consuming. Nice quality vid and your honestly is appreciated. Thanks.
Highly entertaining, particularly all the faces! Very honest and if I ever treat my self to a trim router, you have convinced me to buy Neil's plan.
But may even try a jig like Peter Millard's.
Thank you for your honesty, It looks so easy in video and like it worked flawlessly, but it is quite tricky to get right....
I learned a lot seeing your workflow and thought process. I learned even more from your honest evaluation of the shortcomings.
Great honest video, and tool makers never get it right first time either. I think it's great you made that tool and was honest about the results to .
Good video, I just bought this router. You convinced me to stick with a mortise jig for now. 👍
For centering beveled boards along both sides so it would self center in those. I hink you simplified it nicely, an I could see your learning as you went. Good video, I liked it too.
I like your honesty
Hi Keith just watched your video,and I agree with you entirely,you never try to build something really complicated without detailed plans,they're an absolute godsend,they are there all the time to be used again and again,your vidio is a very good vidio but your own admission proves the point!plans plans plans,but your video is worth a thumbs up
Thanks Colin
Not that I was thinking of making one... and I now I'm definitely not... but great video anyway HELLO. Nice to see someone who is not intimidatingly slick with an OCD wall of endless tools. Keep it up - look forward to your next design challenge - how about making a biscuit jointer from an old slipper and a toaster?
I like your honesty, you sound like me.
Great hearing your pros and cons. I see myself making a "sloppy" version of Neil's mortiser, but getting your thoughts on a slightly less processed one had me re think it.
I don’t know if you ever read these comments but truly an awesome job buddy, I’ve been watching since the beginning and I can’t believe how for you’ve come in your woodworking AND video making . You’re an inspiration !
I read them all, I don’t always respond though as there are so many. Thank you!! 👍
Hey that's pretty cool mate tidy machine you've built there even with the niggles you've still achieved a half decent bit of kit .... nothing like a bit of push back lol
Entertained I am sure ! Finaly a video of about 20 minutes! 10 minutes per week is not enough of you're good content! Love the work as always Keith kinds regards from the Netherlands!
Thank you!
Great..! :)
A few tips: when you countersink in metal do it slow...very slow and you won't get that star pattern as the bit wobbles all over the place.
If you want to smooth the rails use some very fine water-resistant emery cloth for the finish. You can put a mirror-like finish on almost every piece of metal that way. I use it frequently on my stainless steel constructions and it never failed to perform (I'm a blacksmith btw..).
If you start making merch, you need to do a t-shirt with 'hallo', a face and 'make friends in the workshop' on it. I'd buy one.
I made Pasks following his plans. The dust collection on it is really surprising.
We learn from our mistake and we get better but it's a good idea
great tip and great video, Thanks, I did learn a new trick
"Hello!" That was hilarious. I love the quality videos you always produce and I appreciate your honesty about the project. Definitely a lot of work went into it and at least it wasn't all to waste. Can't wait to see the next video.
Regarding the self centering: Use a triangular shape under your router. Solves the problem instantly, the router will always drop to the bottom, if you clamp it in from the top. With a little care, you can integrate it into this design.
And PLEASE screw the top handle to the backplate. If the handle breaks (at the glue point), your hand will instantly be caught in the exposed router bit below. Also you should add a (seethrough) cover over the routerbit in any case.
Glad you are making friends in the workshop with all those faces.
Just a pair of blocks front and rear, so as to provide a sort of carriage for the router to rest will fix the slop issue, glue to the moving base. Does not need to be big, just touch the round part in 2 places front and rear.
Thanks for posting!
An interesting project and very honest of you. I’ve not had much success with wood and moving parts myself!
One thing that really helps instead of washers are things call thrust bearings, take a look!
Really like the look of that router shame it’s the wrong colour for me but I think a black and yellow one is on its way.
Cheers Matt good to hear from you - any new vids in the pipeline? Will check out thrust bearings, I’ve always been rubbish at knowing what fixtures and fittings to use for the best 👍
You gave it a very good try mate. Neil pask is an inspiration like yourself Keith and as they always say, if you have the time of course, practice makes perfect 😉 great video chap
Good effort Keith if you don't try you will never know
16:00 i will forever be reminded of this every time i go to the dentist, thanks Keith *sobs*
Well done..yes I agree..a lot of work but fantastic effort and challenging too.
You can keep your hose clamps. Arrange a V- groove for the router. I think this will allow with repeatability.
an excellent video showing the highs and lows of such a project. i like your honesty too
Thanks for your honesty, but it still is very unique, nice job...
You're such an honest man Sir Keith. Cudos
if you have drill press the mortise attachment is only a c note then you could leave your domino edges square, because your holes are square, and as big or small as you need them. even if you had to buy a bench top drill press it would still be way less expensive.
Well done, it’s good that you gave it a shot and learnt something from it.. I’m sure you will still use it for future projects..Enjoyed the video and your work..
Impressed by your honest assessment.
I think a success all round - you're wiser and better for the experience. Well done.Best aye!
Think I have just been watching “I Build It”, Norwich. Thanks for sharing Keith
High praise!! Cheers 👍
Some good research there mate thanks. Planning to make one of these so it's great reference material. gotta love UA-cam aye!
Beautiful
Muito boa ideia genial
It was really amazing to watch your chanle grow so rapidly I remember your videos in which you were using your table saw on the floor
Failure is always a success if you learn something from it.
Great video. Love your honesty. Will try one day to make myself one.
Thank you!
You are always honest in your videos and i love it. Trying is make something so congrats for your work. Thanks for the time consumming to make a video of your interesting attempt 😁👍🏻
Hallo!! I spat my drink out 😂😂
I love your truthfulness. Thank you.
That looks like a wide bodied cat now lol 😆
Really no need for apology! Thank you you for sharing your experience
For the non slip face, you could have used the non slip tape Poundland have just started getting in. It's surprisingly useful for making jigs
Cheers I’ll look in to that
Good effort Keith. I really appreciate you taking the time to share the good and the bad. Found that so helpful 👍
Excellent honest appraisal Keith! Your ideas and comparisons are very helpful to anyone looking at building one of these. Thanks!
I'm very late to the party, but to help with the router centering issue, a couple of shallow V-blocks on top of the pivoting platform combined with the hose clamps might work.
I love the fact tried this project you might got right finished result wanted but you would learnt so much from experience
Keep up the good work🙋🙋🙋
Rag n Bone Brown: Looks to me like you need a pair of saddle rests to hold your trim router down on. It would just be 2 pieces of wood with a round spot cut out of it for your trim router to sit in, then use the clamps to hold it down. Give that a try and see where you come out at/with. Hopefully it'll be that much ore accurate.
😂HALLO! 😂
A valiant effort, mate👍
Neil is a brilliant maker, in a class of his own👌
Wonder what your neighbors thought when they heard you shout “HALLO!” 😂
Every day is a school day, right? Great effort and good to see it as it unfolds - bet that first slot cut through the fence was a thrill 😆👍👍
That jig is the most intresting as concern how many things you must count . Also a nice useful information (especially for beginners ) is that you can change the collet from 6mm to 8 mm. I thought that you must buy two trimmers , that was very helpful info as always !!!!!!
Cheers. I didn’t know about the collets either until I researched it
Good to hear honest review. Still seems handy though, perhaps if you can get a cheap 2nd hand router you can leave it set up for those odd times you need it. Good learning for future projects ash least
Amazing!
Great video and thanks for the candor at the end. I applaud your efforts and appreciate your sharing. I've built several jigs and have had my triumphs and disappointments and have to say you did a great job.
Your center line was off because of your pivot ends are slightly different. As if it pivots more one way than the other, it will cut further on the other side.
You had a good try at that Keith, I reckon you should carry on with it when you have the time to perfect it, perhaps this is why some of these tools are so expensive like Festool Makita who knows how much time and money manufacturers put into these tool's we never see that , any way have a nice day you deserve it after that !!!
Very elaborated jig my rispect for you but i think that samurái Carpentier have a very good jig that its More simple AND mucho More versatile excelent job any way congratulations!!!
Excellent work and loved the video.....Keep on making them buddy !! : ) : ) : )
To be honest, the less successful builds sometimes make for more interesting viewing.
That's a pretty complex project, would take anybody a few attempts to nail it.
i ended up with this monster roofing 'guide' meant for spacing for conposite shakes - never used the stupid thing, but it's make of phenolic plastic, so would be perfect for this - never warp, easy to work, slides nice... and i have a cheapo Horrible Fright trimmer i never use.