Not a Diverge owner myself, but glad someone is seriously looking into options for extending the serviceable life of rideworthy bikes! Hope some of these kits are still around down the road, for us to talk down $$ on Diverges with broken shocks 😅
I literally commented again the other day on your previous video regarding the FSD as i was looking for an update, and i sure as hell got one! Just ordered with zero hesitation. Cheers man!
Will be buying! I bought the Diverge because it came in a 64 size frame and was in my price range. I didn't care about the FS, and don't particularly like it. This will be great.
I have a 64 cm 2021 Diverge Comp E5, @@jennings016, and am generally not a fan of the bike. I find the bars way too low compared to my saddle height - it's a racer's crouch and I don't like that. It's also too biased toward 'fast groomed gravel' for my riding style. I am six-foot-six/1.98 meters tall and long-legged for height.
@@troglodytestroglodytes220 I have just over 2,000 miles on my diverge and I have just personally never loved the future shock. I don't hate it but I'd rather not have it. It bottoms out a lot and in my opinion makes the front end feel a little dead sometimes
@@piersonmochoa44 thanks. I’m what marketing people call a late adopter. I’m always a couple of years behind the trend, waiting for problems to be ironed out.
Thanks so much for this option! I inherited my late wife's beautiful 58cm Roubaix and the FS is great for my arthritis and carpal tunnel, but the frame is a tad too small. I picked up `17 61cm S-Works frame for $700 from Incycle and now can retrofit her 58cm to sell as a complete bike.
UK Roubaix owner here. Just bought one as my future shock is making terrible grinding noises. I absolutely hated the idea of forking out £180 for a new cartridge. Can't wait to feel the difference..
From my experience the biggest difference is when bombing chunky sections of trail and sprinting on the road. Thats when you feel the difference between the suspension and the rigid delete.
I’m going to buy one immediately. I’m wondering if you could engineer a version that would slam the stem as much as possible? Removing the rubber boot. Thanks.
Helo this is really what i need. However I have a question, i am using roubaix pro 2017, i am not sure which future shock version is this. But can i use your FSD on my roubaix?
Mech. Eng. speaking, would you expect springs to wear down over time? Curious what you think the FS lifespan is? A specialized shop nearby closed down a few months back and I swooped up a replacement FS cartridge for $50. Unfortunately the only one they had. When I made the swap the suspension got noticeably stiffer, it took more force to bottom out even though I had the same color spring installed. This made me think that maybe my old unit had worn down over time. But I only had 4k miles on it and I weigh 160lbs. Originally I had a FS 1.0 and the replacement was a FS 1.5 so maybe it was just due to different internals.
According to his previous video on FSD, Specialized recommends replacing the FS every 500 hours of use, which may come very fast if you ride regularly.
I've done about 16,000 road km on a Roubaix with Futureshock 1.0 and it definitely feels softer and not as smooth as when I got it. There's no play and I don't think it needs replacing yet, but it's on the way and the needle bearings are just not smooth any more.
Can this be installed without the rubber boot in order to achieve a lower stack height (think stem sitting just above the headset cover)? Would this affect forces exerted on the frame/headset assembly?
This is a direct replacement, so the boot can't be omitted to yield lower stack. There's an ebay seller who has something similar that will allow the boot to be removed. The FSD will act very similar to the FS2.0 in its 'locked out' position.
Thx for checking in. I have been riding the slammed prototype for a bit now. Available on the website soon! Approx. 6 weeks (I know, been dragging my feet on it)
We have confirmed that the FSD fits the original FS1.0, but I have not confirmed that the original according boot fits the FSD. The customer purchased the updated 1.5 boot for the FSD.
I'm definitely going to get this and delet mine on the Diverge Evo. My main problem tho (other than disliking Future Shock generally) is that my Future Schock collar has backed off a little bit from hard riding (jumps) in the past, and I'd love to someday just get rid fo the whole cursed ensemble. Is there any way to just put a NORMAL fork and stem on a Supershock bike?
👍 thought a lot about that, but the cost would have gone up significantly since a regular star nut can’t be used (smaller diameter than normal steer tube)
@@TheBikeSauce Interesting. I was thinking of just threading the hole where the plug goes and using a shortened top cap bolt. For me I wouldn't mind cutting whatever bolt came with the top cap, but I guess that's not for everyone. BTW, thanks for the videos, I would never have been able to do my own servicing and bar height adjustments without them.
Would it then not be better to just buy a bike without Future Shock? The Diverge is extremely expensive for what parts it comes with and i think thats due to the Future Shock.
I think a lot of people (myself included) were all on board with the future shock at first. Then, the reality of sourcing replacements and paying for future shock cartridges set in a couple years down the road. Seems like people want the delete as an option, which is otherwise unavailable.
You state that installing an FSD kit will "most certainly void your frame's warranty". How do you know this? The FSD is just a steering component just like installing a stem. The frame consists of the the fork and the main frame, not a stem or handlebars for example.
Quick question. I take it this is the same diameter as the existing Future Shock, could one of these be made with a standard steerer diameter so that we wouldn't need a shim for 3rd party stems?
Problem is the rubber boot. We retain the boot for a factory look, but it requires the smaller diameter. A slammed version of the FSD is in the works, which eliminates the boot. Then we have the option of using a standard steerer diameter. Question is, would people rather have the same diameter as future shock, or have a standard steerer diameter, but then have to buy a new stem?
I have the same question. I think that for people willing to change their bike parts, it’s relatively common to replace stems to change the handlebar position to better suit the rider. On most bikes, this is a no-brainer and many people and bike shops do it routinely. Replacing an FS with an FSD will appeal to a much smaller audience that are clearly willing to make more significant mods to their bikes, and I would think those people would definitely prefer a standard steerer tube diameter to avoid needing the shim. I know I would.
I’m curious to know why you always want to delete the future shock? In my experience 15+ with Specialized, they are great about servicing older/broken proprietary parts. Probably the best in the biz. Register your bikes people.
I think most people including myself think they're unnecessary, expensive, frustrating to have to service, and don't feel great either, to each their own though.
@@rguitarist Speaking only from opinion? Check. No rational argument? Check. Move on pal youre talking to someone who has worked in the bike industry for over a decade boomer.
The Duck bill is the Achilles heal of the design. I would have preferred RedShift spring shock rather than built in mechanisms. For the same reason Canyon double bar isn't an attractive option
Not a Diverge owner myself, but glad someone is seriously looking into options for extending the serviceable life of rideworthy bikes!
Hope some of these kits are still around down the road, for us to talk down $$ on Diverges with broken shocks 😅
I literally commented again the other day on your previous video regarding the FSD as i was looking for an update, and i sure as hell got one!
Just ordered with zero hesitation.
Cheers man!
Same. Ordered immediately
Haha nice.
Will be buying! I bought the Diverge because it came in a 64 size frame and was in my price range. I didn't care about the FS, and don't particularly like it. This will be great.
How tall are you? And how do you find the frame size 64.
I have a 64 cm 2021 Diverge Comp E5, @@jennings016, and am generally not a fan of the bike. I find the bars way too low compared to my saddle height - it's a racer's crouch and I don't like that. It's also too biased toward 'fast groomed gravel' for my riding style.
I am six-foot-six/1.98 meters tall and long-legged for height.
So glad FSD is finally available. Ordered one right away. Thank you!
I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS. You are a true hero
Interested as to why.
@@troglodytestroglodytes220 I have just over 2,000 miles on my diverge and I have just personally never loved the future shock. I don't hate it but I'd rather not have it. It bottoms out a lot and in my opinion makes the front end feel a little dead sometimes
@@piersonmochoa44 thanks. I’m what marketing people call a late adopter. I’m always a couple of years behind the trend, waiting for problems to be ironed out.
Thanks so much for this option! I inherited my late wife's beautiful 58cm Roubaix and the FS is great for my arthritis and carpal tunnel, but the frame is a tad too small. I picked up `17 61cm S-Works frame for $700 from Incycle and now can retrofit her 58cm to sell as a complete bike.
Thank you! I will have to have one of these when I upgrade my old Diverge to a new model with FS. Not a fan of proprietary components.
I think this is an awesome product idea, that many will appreciate.
UK Roubaix owner here. Just bought one as my future shock is making terrible grinding noises. I absolutely hated the idea of forking out £180 for a new cartridge. Can't wait to feel the difference..
Just ordered one!
love the ride feel of my roubaix, interested to try the FSD to see if I can actually tell the difference or if it's just the tires + geometry
From my experience the biggest difference is when bombing chunky sections of trail and sprinting on the road. Thats when you feel the difference between the suspension and the rigid delete.
I’m going to buy one immediately. I’m wondering if you could engineer a version that would slam the stem as much as possible? Removing the rubber boot. Thanks.
I agree! That would be amazing
I ordered one and it looks great. But when can you guys make one where we can slam the handle bars? Im ready to order that as well.
Still in prototype, but we will have it available soon
@@TheBikeSauceawesome man! I’m ready.
Best of luck! I hope it sells out!
Se puede recortar? Porque se ve alto, yo tengo una Roubaix 2017.
How do you prevent water percolation under the duck bill?
What about adding the Shock Stop Suspension Stem to the FSD?
Amazing! will be picking one up
Helo this is really what i need. However I have a question, i am using roubaix pro 2017, i am not sure which future shock version is this. But can i use your FSD on my roubaix?
Do you think it would be possible to use a regular tapered fork on a diverge frame using custom adaptors ?
THIS is what I need to know...
Nice work. I’m curious, why did you keep the boot in the design?
Just to preserve a stock look. Otherwise you’d fill that gap with.. a bunch of spacers?
Hi Mr Sauce, I’ve been waiting when you were going to make this available- so, now that they are, where and how can I order one? Thanks.😊
Link is in description!
Can I fit any normal stem on the futureshock delete? If so, my order is on the way!
Is there a way to install an accessory mount, such as a Rok Form?
Are the 2 spacers required when using the FSD? Thanks...
Mech. Eng. speaking, would you expect springs to wear down over time? Curious what you think the FS lifespan is?
A specialized shop nearby closed down a few months back and I swooped up a replacement FS cartridge for $50. Unfortunately the only one they had. When I made the swap the suspension got noticeably stiffer, it took more force to bottom out even though I had the same color spring installed. This made me think that maybe my old unit had worn down over time. But I only had 4k miles on it and I weigh 160lbs. Originally I had a FS 1.0 and the replacement was a FS 1.5 so maybe it was just due to different internals.
According to his previous video on FSD, Specialized recommends replacing the FS every 500 hours of use, which may come very fast if you ride regularly.
I think Specialized retracted that requirement a while back. Supposedly it lasts the life of the bike, but mine has not stood the test of time.
I've done about 16,000 road km on a Roubaix with Futureshock 1.0 and it definitely feels softer and not as smooth as when I got it. There's no play and I don't think it needs replacing yet, but it's on the way and the needle bearings are just not smooth any more.
Can we go fully internal cables now with this FSD? I have a roubaix with FS 2.0 and Sram eTap
Can this be installed without the rubber boot in order to achieve a lower stack height (think stem sitting just above the headset cover)? Would this affect forces exerted on the frame/headset assembly?
This is a direct replacement, so the boot can't be omitted to yield lower stack. There's an ebay seller who has something similar that will allow the boot to be removed. The FSD will act very similar to the FS2.0 in its 'locked out' position.
Hi Mr. Sauce, bought the FSD last year. so, how is the slammed version/prototype coming along? i'm ready for that too.
Thx for checking in. I have been riding the slammed prototype for a bit now. Available on the website soon! Approx. 6 weeks (I know, been dragging my feet on it)
Future shock is just stupid. This is great!
Are you already working on a rear FSD?
Ha, that's a bigger project..
Glad you can, but I never ever would!
Will this work on 2020 roubaix ? Thanks
Is it working for a Roubaix disc 2017 with FS ?
Still verifying compatibility with the original FS
Is there any update on compatibility with 2017 Roubaix with the original future shock?
We have confirmed that the FSD fits the original FS1.0, but I have not confirmed that the original according boot fits the FSD. The customer purchased the updated 1.5 boot for the FSD.
a question! Could the height be lowered as well? do i have to cut it? how is it done? thank you
This is a direct replacement so it can’t be modified to slam the stem
I bought the Diverge, two of them actually, because of the Future Shock! The last thing I want Is to eliminate it...
When they start giving you trouble, at least you have an option now.
Is it possible to just replace the fork with a different one to get rid of the future shock?
Not really. You might be able to hack something together, but it wouldn’t be a simple swap
I'm definitely going to get this and delet mine on the Diverge Evo. My main problem tho (other than disliking Future Shock generally) is that my Future Schock collar has backed off a little bit from hard riding (jumps) in the past, and I'd love to someday just get rid fo the whole cursed ensemble. Is there any way to just put a NORMAL fork and stem on a Supershock bike?
hard to gauge the real interest in this, but.. might be a cool product for the future! The Future Shock Non-Futurator Machine.
Haha I’ve thought about it a lot, but there’s not a simple way to do it. Everything’s a different standard
@@TheBikeSauce :face palm emoji: wish I woulda knew before buying this thing. The Diverge Evo is such a cool concept, but the Future Shock.. WHYY???
Any updates regarding the 1.0 compatibility?
Yes, it’s compatible with FS 1.0!
Would have been nice to engineer this to take a standard top cap so we could fit top caps from the likes of Kapz or elsewhere.
👍 thought a lot about that, but the cost would have gone up significantly since a regular star nut can’t be used (smaller diameter than normal steer tube)
@@TheBikeSauce Interesting. I was thinking of just threading the hole where the plug goes and using a shortened top cap bolt. For me I wouldn't mind cutting whatever bolt came with the top cap, but I guess that's not for everyone. BTW, thanks for the videos, I would never have been able to do my own servicing and bar height adjustments without them.
Would it then not be better to just buy a bike without Future Shock? The Diverge is extremely expensive for what parts it comes with and i think thats due to the Future Shock.
I think a lot of people (myself included) were all on board with the future shock at first. Then, the reality of sourcing replacements and paying for future shock cartridges set in a couple years down the road. Seems like people want the delete as an option, which is otherwise unavailable.
Are we able to make a long or tall for more upright riding?
It’s a direct replacement, so you’re limited to +15mm of vertical adjustment via spacers
You state that installing an FSD kit will "most certainly void your frame's warranty". How do you know this? The FSD is just a steering component just like installing a stem. The frame consists of the the fork and the main frame, not a stem or handlebars for example.
Interesting thought. I suppose I don’t know for sure. Spesh might argue that the future shock is part of the frame/fork.
If this product is needed… how bad is future shock?
It’s a proprietary unit… Future shock is a pain in the ass
So is it confirmed for the 1.0 future shock?
Yes. It’s compatible with FS 1.0
Quick question. I take it this is the same diameter as the existing Future Shock, could one of these be made with a standard steerer diameter so that we wouldn't need a shim for 3rd party stems?
Problem is the rubber boot. We retain the boot for a factory look, but it requires the smaller diameter. A slammed version of the FSD is in the works, which eliminates the boot. Then we have the option of using a standard steerer diameter. Question is, would people rather have the same diameter as future shock, or have a standard steerer diameter, but then have to buy a new stem?
I have the same question. I think that for people willing to change their bike parts, it’s relatively common to replace stems to change the handlebar position to better suit the rider. On most bikes, this is a no-brainer and many people and bike shops do it routinely.
Replacing an FS with an FSD will appeal to a much smaller audience that are clearly willing to make more significant mods to their bikes, and I would think those people would definitely prefer a standard steerer tube diameter to avoid needing the shim. I know I would.
@@number6photo great insight. You’re probably right. Cheers!
@@TheBikeSauceKeen on the slammed version - any news? Preferable standard fork column diameter not the FS one so no faff with standard stems/no shims
@neilsalter8682 yea, it’s been on the back burner, but it’s designed. Will prototype for testing soon, then release
2:16 is my personal fave - I think all products should be tested by violently shaking them :D
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Will this work with a 2019 Roubaix Comp?
Yup
Can you slam the stem with this?
We have a slam version in the works
@@TheBikeSauce Super interested in this as well!
I’m curious to know why you always want to delete the future shock? In my experience 15+ with Specialized, they are great about servicing older/broken proprietary parts. Probably the best in the biz. Register your bikes people.
I think most people including myself think they're unnecessary, expensive, frustrating to have to service, and don't feel great either, to each their own though.
@@CorrectingIgnorance Actually, I think most people love the future shock. You probably bought the wrong bike if it’s not working out for you.
@@rguitarist Speaking only from opinion? Check. No rational argument? Check. Move on pal youre talking to someone who has worked in the bike industry for over a decade boomer.
Great product but why not make it out of carbon fibre? Be a lot lighter again & more shock dampening.
Manufacturing process is much more involved and costs would go way up for a small operation like ours. Would be cool though
The Duck bill is the Achilles heal of the design. I would have preferred RedShift spring shock rather than built in mechanisms.
For the same reason Canyon double bar isn't an attractive option
an unnecessary proprietary part of a bike now needs replaced? who could of saw this coming! jk but i hate when companies do stupid stuff like this.