Like finding a hay in the needle stack. Only top notch devs get in (achieved huge milestones with other companies, 15 years experience) and even if you get in, they say its not the work experience you're hoping for.
he didn't use those words. there are absolutely project managers, but instead of being chosen by applying for the project manager job, they're chosen informally through social influence and seniority. there's a small group of people at valve who nobody will say no to. there are people in charge, it's just hard to know who they are.
I read how someone tried to take a zoom interview and got hung up on the moment they mentioned they were not from america. I'm pretty sure that if you don't live in washington or they are not interested in hiring you specifically, they won't even give you the time of day
They don't want anyone who doesn't fit into the company culture. (american cutlure.) and that's the best choice. Valve makes uniquely american games. I'd hate for a bunch of indians and chinese to influence valve
They pay a lot but 5 interviews?!!! Please. Such a ridiculous standard i feel bad for programming having to beg for work like that. If youre good enough to pass these multiple rounds of interviews go into business for yourself guys
It probably balances out though with how great of a place it is to work at though. I mean being able to program with no deadlines, feeling free to switch projects and choose what you work on, a boss that wants your input, etc.. plus I imagine the pay is very high
Valve literally only higher the best, their income per employee is probably the highest in the world. There is no bloat like other companies, there is no reason why they should settle for less than that and that is why they conduct that many interviews. They have said publicly only 10,000 people in the world are actually capable of working at valve.
imagine if they hired a guy who is secretly tf2 fan
"Hey guys, lets rebalance the shortstop" *entire company goes silent and stares, Gabe walks in and calls you to his office*
They'll pull out a real life gravity gun, and chuck you out of the building lol
How hard would it be I wonder.
well they don't have entry level job you have to have some prominent experience in the indusry
@@stt.9433 at least 5 years of professional experience in the industry
Like finding a hay in the needle stack. Only top notch devs get in (achieved huge milestones with other companies, 15 years experience) and even if you get in, they say its not the work experience you're hoping for.
@@foxbyte0157 Or be a great indie dev/team that happens to excell at certain things that they need at the time
2:04 these kind of conversations and challenges sound fun.
That'd be so fucking worth it
Can you imagine being an aspiring game dev and being able to work on Half Life 2? Good lord.
Imagine getting interviewed by 4 Gabes.
are there truly no project managers?
Correct.
@@jackscalibur That's a heaven for coders.
he didn't use those words. there are absolutely project managers, but instead of being chosen by applying for the project manager job, they're chosen informally through social influence and seniority. there's a small group of people at valve who nobody will say no to. there are people in charge, it's just hard to know who they are.
@@adog3129 sick sounds like a nice place to work
@@johnathan2023idk, sounds kinda awful to me lol, no clarity
I wonder how it is for people who come outside of usa??
I read how someone tried to take a zoom interview and got hung up on the moment they mentioned they were not from america. I'm pretty sure that if you don't live in washington or they are not interested in hiring you specifically, they won't even give you the time of day
Can you please link where you read that? I'd like to know more
That's wrong a colleague of my current company starts there in 3 weeks. 100% Home-Office
They don't want anyone who doesn't fit into the company culture. (american cutlure.)
and that's the best choice. Valve makes uniquely american games. I'd hate for a bunch of indians and chinese to influence valve
maybe it's just me but i am really struggling to follow what this guy's saying. His sentences are all over the place.
Hmm, maybe they should have done an additional interview to catch that...
A lot of these people make like a million a year.
They pay a lot but 5 interviews?!!! Please. Such a ridiculous standard i feel bad for programming having to beg for work like that. If youre good enough to pass these multiple rounds of interviews go into business for yourself guys
could be wrong but im pretty sure that's all big tech interview processes are like
@@bigbadbodypillow yeah that’s ridiculous that guys put up with it. Honestly i wish programmers realized their value but most workers dont.
It probably balances out though with how great of a place it is to work at though. I mean being able to program with no deadlines, feeling free to switch projects and choose what you work on, a boss that wants your input, etc.. plus I imagine the pay is very high
Valve literally only higher the best, their income per employee is probably the highest in the world. There is no bloat like other companies, there is no reason why they should settle for less than that and that is why they conduct that many interviews. They have said publicly only 10,000 people in the world are actually capable of working at valve.
5 interviews? You're such a baby. That's standard in the industry now.