To be fair, Ryan Leaf did turn out to be a franchise changing player. They don't go 1-15 in 2000 without royally screwing the pooch by selling the farm to move up one position for that turkey. They got two hall of famers in Tomlinson at 5, and Brees at 32. So the Chargers owe quite a lot to Leaf in the end.
@@stevedaddy3498 They played together 5 years, and the Chargers drafted Brees' replacement in Eli (then traded him for Rivers) before he really developed. They were gonna replace Brees for Rivers eventually. Brees' shoulder injury just guaranteed he would be leaving San Diego. Drew had a better career playoff record than Rivers, so who's to say he couldn't have won rings with the defenses that San Diego put out there along with a HOF RB and TE?
@@stevedaddy3498 Drew did win a ring in NO after he left SD, and even with no ring, LT is an all-time back and the Chargers won a lot while he was there
Cam's rookie year is not given the respect that it should have been given.Everyone thought Peyton Manning was going to accomplish this but he fell short but he established a NFL ROOKIE Mark for Interceptions with 28 and threw 6 INTS in one game which led to the most famous post game tirade in NFL HISTORY by Jim Mora.
matt ryan had an amasing rookie year. he won offensive rookie of the year after turning a 4-12 season in 2007 (before he was drafted) into an 11-5 team.
@@justinterry2926 He had 26 Td's but he threw 28 Interceptions (Most by a rookie) and he had a 56% completion percentage. He had the worst efficiency in the league. Also having 3-13 record isn't carrying a team lol.
@@isaiahcrowell3578 far different game back then Anyone who understands football knows that He carried a terrible team on his back And yes he had interceptions Farve has the record for interceptions and he is an all time great
@@justinterry2926 Far different game? He still led the league in Interceptions and was bottom 5 in Completion percentage. And how is having more Interceptions than Td's with the worst efficiency in the league carrying his team? They went 3-13 with Peyton as a starter so how is that carrying when they only won 3 games with him? Also comparing Peyton's terrible rookie year to the seasons that made Farve a legend is a bad argument. Farve in his best years had way more Td's than Interceptions. Where as rookie Peyton Manning was the opposite, he had more Turnovers than he had Touchdowns plus he only won three games.
It's almost unfair to compare these rookie qb's. Back in Elway and Aikmans day, defenses were allowed to murder a qb! Nowadays it's a pass happy league where qb's put up video game type numbers on a regular basis! I think this list is proof to the theory - different football eras are unfair to compare?
I believe honorable mentions should be made for the rookie seasons of Arnie Herber (1930), Sammy Baugh (1937), Bob Waterfield (1945) and Otto Graham (1946): all four led their teams to the title, and all are in the Hall of Fame.
Joe Burrow could have had one of the best rookie QB seasons ever had he not suffered a season-ending injury in Week 11 that year... i think he had 15 TDs and only 5 INTs when his rookie campaign got cut short. What makes Burrow and Herbert's rookie seasons even MORE remarkable is the fact that there were no minicamps or preseason in 2020 due to COVID, so they had so little time to actually prepare.
@@rileyfreeman7122 I thinks so or maybe because a lot of people know that Peyton Manning had the most picks and TPS just put other players that had bad rookie seasons that many people didn't know?
Yep I'm still stumped how miami didn't get him over tua.but then again covid .screwed us.i think if herburt was able to come to miami they would've got herburt..is what it is.
I'm at 9:51 and it seems the reoccurring theme here is that the "best" ones have great starts but awful ends and the "worst" have awful starts but legendary ends aside from Alex Smith. Interesting. I'm sure Patrick Mahomes is soon too come and he's the only one that dominated and still dominates but he's also only a couple years into his career.
I really thought Greg Cook would be on the list for best. While many have never heard of him he was great for Cincinnati and if he had modern medicine he my have been an all timer.
Damn right!! Replacement refs were absolutely terrible! They even admitted later that they fucked that up. Rodgers has a 2nd ring if that was called the right way
Nice video, but after hearing Ryan Leaf on the Pat McAfee show and how humble he is, how he’s really changed, and come so far, I don’t know that that extra little “dig” of having him in his prison stripes is really necessary as the final image of such a video. Just my two cents.
I fast forwarded to the end because if Ben wasn't number one I was going to riot. My very 1st and only Steelers game was the one after Ben beat an undefeated Patriots team with Tom Brady and then undefeated Philly Team. He had the best year any rookie could have asked for.
good rookie years for QBS are rare. Look at this year not a single QB had a decent year except mac cause he’s in the best system possible. Which makes years like herberts and mahomes that much more special
Pretty good and pretty even handed and fair. I have one correction and it s about pronounciation. Art Schlicter’s last name is pronounce Shleester. You just mentioned him in passing but don’t seem to know much about him. As a guy who attended Ohio State one year behind him, I know quite a lot. You could see Art might have problems even at OSU, as he was the typical arrogant, privileged athlete. That is where his gambling problems started, which led to two jail stints. Even without this, however. the odds were stacked against him as, Frank Kush, from Arizona State, took over as Colts coach during his rookie year. Kush also saw fit to draft his quarterback at ASU, Mike Pagel in the same draft. So, Art really had no chance, because, as soon as he struggled, Pagel took his place and it went that way his entire career. He may have still imploded, due to his gambling issues (Which seemed to get much worse after he was benched), but he never really got much of a chance. Watching a Colts preseason game, in Art’s rookie year, it was apparent that Kush preferred Pagel, and that is who he went with throughout Art’s career. Would Art have done better for n a different situation? I guess we’ll never know.
Smith had ZERO TALENT around him at the WR position while he was in San Francisco and the person who recommended that Smith to be taken over Rodgers MIKE MC CARTHY!!!!!
I wish the younger Brady fans weren't so ignorant. People who watched the guy play during those early Super Bowl runs know he didn't throw the ball all over the place til they got Moss and Welker. I've listened to Mac Jones get shit on all year,but Mac has had an above average season as a rookie and in my opinion has looked better than Brady did at that same age.
That’s the whole point of this video, he talks about strictly the rookie years of these QBs , and explicitly say that while they struggled to start, they turned it around.
@DJ Savage that doesn't matter; Mahomes still played and started the last game of the season. Had Mahomes suffered a season-ending injury in the preseason, his second season would have been considered his rookie season. Similar to Ben Simmons when he won Rookie of the Year in the 2017-2018 NBA season despite getting drafted in 2016
Ryan Leaf should've been with the Colts if it wasn't for Archie Manning crying about the Chargers selecting Peyton. The history almost repeated itself but the Chargers didn't forget that Archie Manning would cry again if they touched Eli. So they had to settle for Phillip Rivers. I wish that people would write this history correctly. The whole thing about Peyton and Leaf gets twisted into a false story. The Manning family didn't want their boys playing for SanDiego ever and it's a shame that the NFL would let this happen. And then act like the Chargers selecting Leaf and Rivers was what they wanted. That's blowing smoke up your asses
Peyton had nothing to do with the Chargers. The Colts picked first overall so they didn’t have to worry about the Chargers selected Peyton. The Colts ultimately chose Peyton because they preferred his attitude to Leaf’s
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To be fair, Ryan Leaf did turn out to be a franchise changing player. They don't go 1-15 in 2000 without royally screwing the pooch by selling the farm to move up one position for that turkey. They got two hall of famers in Tomlinson at 5, and Brees at 32. So the Chargers owe quite a lot to Leaf in the end.
Wasn't leaf undrafted ?
@@shawnbopko858 2nd overall pick after manning
Mmm how about nah In the end drew and LT still couldn't win a ring they don't owe alot due to tht had they one one or a few yea sure
@@stevedaddy3498 They played together 5 years, and the Chargers drafted Brees' replacement in Eli (then traded him for Rivers) before he really developed. They were gonna replace Brees for Rivers eventually. Brees' shoulder injury just guaranteed he would be leaving San Diego. Drew had a better career playoff record than Rivers, so who's to say he couldn't have won rings with the defenses that San Diego put out there along with a HOF RB and TE?
@@stevedaddy3498 Drew did win a ring in NO after he left SD, and even with no ring, LT is an all-time back and the Chargers won a lot while he was there
You guys should do a video ranking or grading every starting qbs rookie years
@Hinia Vanisa--💞 shut up
No cause some of them didn’t start their rookie season
@Hinia Vanisa--💞 STOP SENDING THAT
@@derekstudios8494 how about their first seasons
Every? Wouldn't that video be hours long?
I'm going to say RGIII should have been on this list, as a rare example of when a great rookie season is NOT a harbinger of things to come.
Cam's rookie year is not given the respect that it should have been given.Everyone thought Peyton Manning was going to accomplish this but he fell short but he established a NFL ROOKIE Mark for Interceptions with 28 and threw 6 INTS in one game which led to the most famous post game tirade in NFL HISTORY by Jim Mora.
RG3 had the best rookie season for a QB the numbers were pretty damn impressive
Honorable mention to Baker Mayfield, who's season records were only beaten the next year by Herbert
Two years after.
*Record
Not to mention herbert had one of the worst o line n still got it done
Joe Flacco's rookie season was similar to big Ben; Boller and Wright go down in preseason, Flacco leads the Ravens to the AFC title game
So Payton Manning isn't on this list? He threw like a Million picks in his rookie year
Patton was a beast back in the day for the colts i remember him and regie wayne and marvin Harrison and stokley edgin James 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I think he still has the rookie int record
He also had the rookie touchdown record . And basically put a terrible team on his back
@@justinterry2926 no he dont
@@Levidawgs7744 no he don't what ?
matt ryan had an amasing rookie year. he won offensive rookie of the year after turning a 4-12 season in 2007 (before he was drafted) into an 11-5 team.
No Payton Manning with the most picks by a rookie QB
Trevor Lawrence had the same misfortune in his rookie year as well.
And most touchdowns
He carried a bad team on his back
@@justinterry2926 He had 26 Td's but he threw 28 Interceptions (Most by a rookie) and he had a 56% completion percentage. He had the worst efficiency in the league. Also having 3-13 record isn't carrying a team lol.
@@isaiahcrowell3578 far different game back then
Anyone who understands football knows that
He carried a terrible team on his back
And yes he had interceptions
Farve has the record for interceptions and he is an all time great
@@justinterry2926 Far different game? He still led the league in Interceptions and was bottom 5 in Completion percentage. And how is having more Interceptions than Td's with the worst efficiency in the league carrying his team? They went 3-13 with Peyton as a starter so how is that carrying when they only won 3 games with him? Also comparing Peyton's terrible rookie year to the seasons that made Farve a legend is a bad argument. Farve in his best years had way more Td's than Interceptions. Where as rookie Peyton Manning was the opposite, he had more Turnovers than he had Touchdowns plus he only won three games.
You guys should do 10 biggest upsets. Either in general, or this year or both
It's almost unfair to compare these rookie qb's. Back in Elway and Aikmans day, defenses were allowed to murder a qb! Nowadays it's a pass happy league where qb's put up video game type numbers on a regular basis!
I think this list is proof to the theory - different football eras are unfair to compare?
I believe honorable mentions should be made for the rookie seasons of Arnie Herber (1930), Sammy Baugh (1937), Bob Waterfield (1945) and Otto Graham (1946): all four led their teams to the title, and all are in the Hall of Fame.
As a colts fan Peyton going 3-13 with rookie Peyton manning throwing like 15+ int to going 13-3 the next is one of the biggest turn around s ever
RG3 is about to start a hostage situation at tps headquarters
Joe Burrow could have had one of the best rookie QB seasons ever had he not suffered a season-ending injury in Week 11 that year... i think he had 15 TDs and only 5 INTs when his rookie campaign got cut short.
What makes Burrow and Herbert's rookie seasons even MORE remarkable is the fact that there were no minicamps or preseason in 2020 due to COVID, so they had so little time to actually prepare.
Where's Peyton Manning? The guy threw 27 INTS in his rookie year
They don’t talk about that because they are Peyton fanboys
@@rileyfreeman7122 I thinks so or maybe because a lot of people know that Peyton Manning had the most picks and TPS just put other players that had bad rookie seasons that many people didn't know?
@@rileyfreeman7122 no it’s cause he broke the rookie td record and carried that awful team on his back
@@gigachad3392 28 but you were 1 off
Im a chiefs fan & i know (Herbert, Chargers) has potential he has taken chargers to a new level.
Thanks !! I love seeing rival fans showing love especially cheif fans !! Hopefully y’all get the chip this year dude 👏🏽
Respect man
Yep I'm still stumped how miami didn't get him over tua.but then again covid .screwed us.i think if herburt was able to come to miami they would've got herburt..is what it is.
I'm at 9:51 and it seems the reoccurring theme here is that the "best" ones have great starts but awful ends and the "worst" have awful starts but legendary ends aside from Alex Smith. Interesting. I'm sure Patrick Mahomes is soon too come and he's the only one that dominated and still dominates but he's also only a couple years into his career.
I really thought Greg Cook would be on the list for best. While many have never heard of him he was great for Cincinnati and if he had modern medicine he my have been an all timer.
Video Idea: Ranking offensive lines in football worst to first
Despite how the rest of his career turned out, I would've had RG3 under best in here
Sorry I know baker hasn’t been great recently but he had an amazing rookie season
As a Chiefs fan, I routinely referred to Donald Stephenson as "not Russell Wilson." I was a little bitter.
This a certified hood classic
Best: MAC jones wort: Trevor Lawrence
This is a certified hood classic
Five worst NFL rookie running back seasons and 5 of the best
Big Ben isn't #1? Wins mean more than stats
Troy played on a 1-15 team which had 90% of its roster turned over from the prior 3-13 season.
That Cam Newton roomie season was amazing! Even tho we were losing, he was so much fun to watch.0
Johnny Manziel not being up here is hard to believe
Right, and I mentioned Tim Couch too. ('99)
Don't forget Lamars rookie season when he took the ravens to the playoffs
Best: Brock Purdy, 2022
Worst: Peyton Manning, 1998
I think all the best being in this century really highlights how much the NFL has really transitioned to a more pass heavy league.
Love your video
Wilson’s win over Green Bay in his rookie year has an asterisk
Damn right!! Replacement refs were absolutely terrible! They even admitted later that they fucked that up. Rodgers has a 2nd ring if that was called the right way
@@Bizness87
If you look at how the standings played out that year the playoff seedings wouldn't have been affected at all.
Peyton manning rookie season wasn’t too good either
He had interceptions yes , but he also broke the rookie touchdown record.
He was carrying a terrible team on his back
Nice video, but after hearing Ryan Leaf on the Pat McAfee show and how humble he is, how he’s really changed, and come so far, I don’t know that that extra little “dig” of having him in his prison stripes is really necessary as the final image of such a video. Just my two cents.
I fast forwarded to the end because if Ben wasn't number one I was going to riot. My very 1st and only Steelers game was the one after Ben beat an undefeated Patriots team with Tom Brady and then undefeated Philly Team. He had the best year any rookie could have asked for.
good rookie years for QBS are rare.
Look at this year not a single QB had a decent year except mac cause he’s in the best system possible.
Which makes years like herberts and mahomes that much more special
RG3 rookie 2012 season for sure should’ve been added to the list
Matt Ryan had a killer rookie year. Considering the state that the franchise was at the time.
What about Baker Mayfield in 2018?
Not a cowboy fan, but QBs played against defenses that will lay the wood to quarterbacks.
Worst also, in '99 Tim Couch ( Browns) we didn't call him Tim 'Ouch' for being a stellar player either.
Next do every NFL teams jersey design from worst to first
Can you do worst and best years from Qbs in their last year of the NFL
Wait, no Josh Rosen ??
Nice video
Matt Ryan?
Can you do best coach and worst coach please in next video
@Hinia Vanisa--💞 stop
Pretty good and pretty even handed and fair. I have one correction and it s about pronounciation. Art Schlicter’s last name is pronounce Shleester. You just mentioned him in passing but don’t seem to know much about him. As a guy who attended Ohio State one year behind him, I know quite a lot. You could see Art might have problems even at OSU, as he was the typical arrogant, privileged athlete. That is where his gambling problems started, which led to two jail stints. Even without this, however. the odds were stacked against him as, Frank Kush, from Arizona State, took over as Colts coach during his rookie year. Kush also saw fit to draft his quarterback at ASU, Mike Pagel in the same draft. So, Art really had no chance, because, as soon as he struggled, Pagel took his place and it went that way his entire career. He may have still imploded, due to his gambling issues (Which seemed to get much worse after he was benched), but he never really got much of a chance. Watching a Colts preseason game, in Art’s rookie year, it was apparent that Kush preferred Pagel, and that is who he went with throughout Art’s career. Would Art have done better for n a different situation? I guess we’ll never know.
Manning's rookie year wasn't very good, he started 3-13.
I'm a ducks fan and can't wait to see what Justin Herbert can do with later in his career
You guys should do this but with every nfl team. Like in alphabetical order
Wasn't Leaf taken before Manning, which was why it was such a head scratcher... 🤔
No that was Eli and Rivers.
Hey the ryan leaf pick turned out not to be so bad because he was so bad that they ended up taking drew Brees several years later
J HERBO 😮💨💪🏼💪🏼
Man rg3 had a stellar rookie season
Thought Andrew Luck would be on here because of his yards
Rg3 better be on here
Trevor law Zach Wilson and Justin fields will be super stars trust
Agreed 👍🏾
Smith had ZERO TALENT around him at the WR position while he was in San Francisco and the person who recommended that Smith to be taken over Rodgers MIKE MC CARTHY!!!!!
Because Kurt Warner won the Super bowl super bowl mvp and won the mvp in his rookie year
Baker Mayfield
I wish the younger Brady fans weren't so ignorant. People who watched the guy play during those early Super Bowl runs know he didn't throw the ball all over the place til they got Moss and Welker. I've listened to Mac Jones get shit on all year,but Mac has had an above average season as a rookie and in my opinion has looked better than Brady did at that same age.
7:03 A late Matt Ryan Field Goal???
How is RGIII not on this list
Where’s baker
How can you suffer a rib injury before you get on the field and play
RG3 should be on here
Did this dude just say Dak was becoming a top 5 quarterback? Bro.
Payton manning had the worse rookie season plus he still holds the rookie interceptions
Daniel Jones and Tlaw
No dude
ReGuLaR DuDes ranking channel they both had awful rookie years
elway would be without a job second year in the nfl today...wtf
The best rookie season I think was Kurt Warner by the way you guys should watch American underdog
“Scared the 1 seed 49ers… but lost on a MATT RYAN field goal”
1 seed falcons lost on a Matt Bryant field goal
What about baker
Jared Goff had the worst statistical season of any first overall pick
What about RG3
I feel like no one cares about Ben’s rookie year, the man won a Super Bowl the next year, I mean c’mon, show some respect
That’s the whole point of this video, he talks about strictly the rookie years of these QBs , and explicitly say that while they struggled to start, they turned it around.
Best: baker mayfield
where's my man TLaw?
Damn leaf retired in 01??fawk
Mac Jones should be in this vid for best
you forgot payton manning for worst
Dak n troy r my qbs!!!!
Great video banger video
Mac Jones
Robert griffin
What about Matt Ryan
Where is Kurt Warner
honorable mention to Patrick Mahomes who led the chiefs to the afc title game in 2018.
That was his sophomore season. His rookie season was 2017 and he only started one game.
@@launanadine he didnt get to be starter really that year so it doesn't count. the first year of him starting was 2018.
@@DJSavage978 still wasn't his rookie season
@@Angry_Peanut_52 it was his first year as starter tho
@DJ Savage that doesn't matter; Mahomes still played and started the last game of the season.
Had Mahomes suffered a season-ending injury in the preseason, his second season would have been considered his rookie season. Similar to Ben Simmons when he won Rookie of the Year in the 2017-2018 NBA season despite getting drafted in 2016
Where’s Baker?
Shoulda put Patrick mahomes
Ryan Leaf should've been with the Colts if it wasn't for Archie Manning crying about the Chargers selecting Peyton. The history almost repeated itself but the Chargers didn't forget that Archie Manning would cry again if they touched Eli. So they had to settle for Phillip Rivers. I wish that people would write this history correctly. The whole thing about Peyton and Leaf gets twisted into a false story. The Manning family didn't want their boys playing for SanDiego ever and it's a shame that the NFL would let this happen. And then act like the Chargers selecting Leaf and Rivers was what they wanted. That's blowing smoke up your asses
Peyton had nothing to do with the Chargers. The Colts picked first overall so they didn’t have to worry about the Chargers selected Peyton. The Colts ultimately chose Peyton because they preferred his attitude to Leaf’s
Where’s baker Mayfield
Ben Roethlisberger will end up a top ten quarterback of all time. Ryan leaf is the biggest bust ever.🤮
Who was worse The Colts or The Buccaneers???