I'm glad he named Lupe Fiasco because he's definitely one of the greats in hip-hop and deserves more respect for what he's added to the culture. Lupe has always been consistent with spreading a positive message and he's an amazing storyteller.
He didn't lie tho, considering what he literally said, it wasn't a lie. Pac was always conflicted, and a Gemini by nature, so he always carried that duality.
You should go back and listen to Pac's music. He played the line of Thug and Activist. I respect him for his art, but I will never forgive him, for how he disrespected Delores C Tucker. Look her up and discover who she was and what she stood for, then go listen to how Pac disrespected her on "How Do You Want It"!
@@vincentcorcoran6247you’re definitely underrating Pac’s flow. Both are dope af. Biggie has a smoother more laid back flow while pac had a very high energy flow.
2 Pac is the most overrated rapper in history!! Basic and average was his level. How many times can a nigga rhyme Enemyyyyyyyyy, Hennesseeeeeey, Enemyyyyyyyyy, Hennesseeeeeey etc....gtfoh!!
"Tupac was conscious too,he was just gangster with it. All conscious rappers a lil hardcore though, all they songs positive, but all of them Pop they slick,macho stuff some times, they just never make full songs about it. Nas was/is a gangster, conscious rapper, he's not all that positive. Nas is a killer, he from the bad bad hood. "
1.) Tupac (Influence/Impact) 2.) Biggie (Flow) 3.) Nas (Longevity/Story telling) 4.) Eminem (Word play) 5.) Krayzie Bone (Melodic/chopper) My personal opinion
Lupe Fiasco paved the way for rappers like Kendrick Lamar and Drake. He paved the way for alternative rap. This is why Jay-Z executive produced Lupe's first album and Lupe wasnt even signed to Jay-Z. Jay knew Lupe is a star and hes different.
2PAC died at the age of 25?!!! How can u say that? When did u find yourself, what age did u met the man that u are 2day!! 2PAC is the G.O.A.T!! HIS MESSAGE HAS NEVER CHANGED!!!?
He's 30+. He acknowledged 2pac consciousness at the same time he saying bomb first, blasphemy, Krazy, me and my girlfriend are prevalent. It's just his opinion not facts #respect
@kincamell2..My top Five Paris the blk panther of hiphop,Wise Intelligent,Killah Priest,Chief Kamachi,Pac..No particular order..After them Nas,Black Though,Krs-1,Immortal Tech,Lupe
i’ve always said this about Pac…for as Great as he was, the body of work he left behind, the movies, etc. the list of unaccomplished goals he had planned…it’s beyond sad & also unbelievable that when Pac passed…he was NOWHERE near reaching & maximizing his full potential
Everybody has they own opinion, own top whatever. I only got 1 favorite. Don’t need a top five cuz the other 4 don’t matter. Not only did pac live what he rapped about but his interviews and how he carried himself as a person. His point of view. He represented us Geminis proper.
Lived what he rapped about made him better? So you are admitting that if we dont read anything about their lives and focus on just the music itself as it should be then he wont be the best? Hmm i see....
Pac most certainly did not represent us geminis proper, he made us look crazy. He was bipolar as h*ll. One moment he's on positivity talking about we all came from a woman and we must respect woman and next minute he's on some "Keep your mind on your money, fuck these hoes" type shit and referring to women as b*tches in every other song lmao. One moment he's talking about how many brothers fell victims to the streets and then he's rapping about peeling caps. He carried himself as a lunatic and he isn't a role model in the slightest.
Most pac fans are not familiar with his discography just bandwagon rider fans of all eyez on me and makaveli. Most of them couldn't tell you anything about 2pacalypse Now, Strictly 4 My Ngz, or even the Thug Life compilation..
i think we're all familiar with pacs discography, but some people aint on pacs dick and appreciate the work of other rappers instead. believe or not theres better rappers out there than pac and big.
@@thdegj the Thug Life Album went hard, but did you know there's another version of "Bury Me a G" without the Thug Life crew, just Pac on all 4 verses, killing it 😯
You are not paying attention. He said he was flip flopping and growing. He didn’t get a chance to fully evolve to be that true revolutionary person. Strictly For My N’s is my favorite Pac album but peep the difference between that album and All Eyes on Me. I believe Pac would be a totally different person if he had lived. He was on his way and would have been even bigger in the community, politics and music.
It cost too much to shine now vs the 80s and 90s. Back then you could flex with a Acura Legend, Benz or Chevy Blazer. Now a Bentley or Ferrari is required. So the Big homies are more preoccupied making their scratch
How did 2pac not evolve? Every album he put out from 91-96, sounded different lol. Even his voice changed after his first two albums. 2pac the most versatile artist/rapper to come through Hip-Hop
He means evolve from a character perspective. He went from a conscious rapper in his early days to essentially becoming a gangster rapper. In reality, it should be the other way round. He showed regression if anything and that's what eventually led to his demise.
@MR12AMAZING Stop the cap, you obviously didn't listen to his first two albums closely. 2pac was on that gangster ish from the get go. Just more on that military street solider ish. Even on Me Against The Word album too. Dude started the ThugLife in 93 before he went to Death Row. You sound like a straight up casual.
It's funny because he said he could put Nas in his top 5 but he apparently isn't familiar with Nas' catalog, he must have missed songs like "Wanna play rough" where Nas raps about having goons gang rape a man's wife in front of him, and threatening to have a man killed and "stupid nigga" written on his tombstone. Or "Your mouth got you in it" where Nas raps *"white stocking cap on my face pulled down, from behind all you hear is a gun cock sound and now, I put it on ya mouth, fuck you was sayin', suck on this you trick, try to duck and I'm sprayin'"* I mean, two of Nas' nicknames were Nasty Nas and Nas Escobar.
What amazes me is how nobody's talking about one of the greatest rappers of all time k rino! And how positive and powerful the messages he spreads with his music are and you also can't leave Vinnie paz out of the greatest rappers of all time convo either...
Pac, Nas, Ice Cube, Mos Def, Nipsey, Lupe, Big Krit, Kendrick, Jcole, Black Thought, common, KRS one and Lloyd Banks are some of the best Lyricist and they all made Quality Music tryna Evolve the Black Community 🗣️
little dude!! The ABOVE AVERAGE little rapper nas HELPED to DESTROY HIPHOP MUSIC !! By OVER SATURATING it with ABSOLUTE GARBAGE and he did that with other ABOVE AVERAGE rappers like jz, jada kiss, ALL GROUP MEMBERS of wu tang clan and EVERY GOT DAMN ONE ELSE and REGARDLESS of AGE little dude.
Totally agree wirh Dee1 the Power✊is the music you 👂put out👂✊industry music 🎶🎚🎶💔is now heart breaking whats being played can not be understood nor sung later for future generations to come💔❤🎶🖤🎶💚💔
2pac’s music isn’t that violent if people pay attention to what he’s actually saying and if he was talking violent majority of the time it was in the name of self defense MOST of the time
😂 ok whatever you say. Your so called revolutionary Tupac also talked about killing someone’s kids. Oh and that was to a black man he said that to as well. Y’all gotta stop being followers and look at things individually. Tupac was definitely devolving!!! He would have been worse not better. He was actually more wise before he got famous.
As someone who has listened to almost every song released and unreleased that 2Pac has done, I have to disagree. Pre-death row you might be right, but most of his death row catalog was straight up gangsta rap and can’t be responsibly defended. I know he made a number of songs with a positive, uplifting message from death row era (“One Day At A Time”, “Baby Don’t Cry”, “Letter 2 My Unborn”, “The Good Die Young” etc.) but majority of it was profane and degenerate. TBH Pac going to DR and Suge Knight ultimately brought out the worst in him, tho he reached the highest level of success career wise.
@@Pineapples-Mango_Smoothie what narrative is that? Are you deaf? Or are you gonna actually tell whole lies to act like pac only rapped about an preached a persona of positively an black people's progression? Like he wasn't bound to prison for sexual assault before he was killed? Don't let them handful of positive songs negate the dozens of violent an negative ones that were pushing the demise an death of his own people an the disdain an objectively of woman. Nigga was not a common as much as yall wanna delude each other.
To be fair, he addressed that. He said having SOME light in your music isn't the same as denouncing all that hood shit and he believs Pac didn't live long enough to come back and denounce all the hood shit he was saying in a lot of his music.
I think you're the one who didn't know what Pac was about. Y'all act like he was a saint and that all his songs were in the same field as Keep Ya Head up and Life Goes on but ignore a great chunk of the rest of his catalogue that was promoting misogyny and glorifying violence on other black men.
@@MR12AMAZING Who would consider Pac or anyone to be a saint? By him rapping about the violence and misogyny which surrounded communities like my own it allowed his uplifting messages to get through. At a teenager all I knew was what I saw within a 40 mile radius. That is why when I was a teenager and living like an idiot it struck me when Pac said things like "Do what you gotta do but know you gotta change try to find a way to make it out the game". The only way that sentence reached me is because I perceived Pac as someone that represented me and my living environment thus there was a sense of authenticity. I loved listening to the violent and misogynistic tracks because that is what I could relate to at the time and in turn the positive message reached me as well. If Pac had only rapped positivity I would have dismissed him completely at that time. Pac rapping about misogyny and violence may just be a song to you but it was real life environment for some of us. When you are young you need someone to relate to before you can take what they say seriously. You evolve as you get older thus looking back on who I was an a teenager now make me squirm and I have a sense of guilt for not figuring things out sooner. But at that time and in the hell I was living Pac was able to reach me in a way no one else really could.
Dee 1 is young and I don’t think he has had the chance to fully listen and understand Tupac’s music or career, so I don’t think he has an accurate understanding or depiction of Who Pac really was and what he stood for or else he wouldn’t have said he had sparks he had way more than sparks, the man was luminous
The man died in 96 at 25 years old and at the time was caught up in the most negative mindset… Dee 1 is talking about people who grew into adults still glorying ignorance… Pac didn’t get that chance to do that in real time… so he isnt speaking about Pac in this because he was a kid when Pac died and didn’t get to mature with a current Pac
@@MR12AMAZINGso! He still had an overall positive message! Yea he had his own personal demons and opps and he spoke on it but he wasn’t a destructive person to the black community..he was on our side! He was young ..dee 1 act like he high and mighty at 38 to a 25 yr old who did more than we will ever do in this lifetime
Yo ART try to line up a interview with Lupe’s business partner CHILLY. Them dudes been thur ALOT and their stories should be heard if they choose to share it. ✊🏾
Listen Pac tried to be positive but niccas gravitates towards sin why it’s written we have done the same thing over and over turn our backs on our creator
Yes what this brother is saying is true but at the same time he is judging from a balcony. Things are different on the ground. Meaning pacs era was different and he was actually faced with a lot of things that ppl just see on the internet in the comfortably of their home. It’s easy to look back at history and say yeah I wouldn’t have done that.
True, but that don't mean he had to rap about some of the things he rapped about. Or said certain things or did certain things that was opposite of the image he wanted to create. Plenty of artists faced hard times. Its how you choose to deal with them and move forward. He was very intelligent from everything I've seen, but he did some very stupid and reckless things. Pac was unfortunately just as much the cause of his death as other outside forces, and people hate to admit that. Instead we like to glorify everything he did just based off the fact that he lived that life and was a good artist.
@@dylanhopkins5934 Do you know who pac was? Ppl don’t salute that man almost 30 years later because he was quote on quote about that life. Bruh was way more than an artist or any of that. The ppls reaction prove it everytime💯
Tupac didn't evolve, he was promoting negativity while with Death Row and took part in unnecessary violence to beef up his persona like in incidents with Sam Sneed and Orlando Anderson.
Don't condemn if you see a person has a dirty glass of water, just show them the clean glass of water that you have. When they inspect it, you won't have to say that yours is better. -Elijah Muhammad
Nas tried the gangster rap image too like Shoot Em Up,A Favor For A Favor,Tales Of The Hood but changed his message. That's what Pac did too,but for me Pacs best tracks were the sad ones like So Many Tears,Lord Knows,Dear Mama,White Mans World,Only Fear Of Death,Nothing To Lose,Unconditional Love,Part Time Mother,Letter To My Unborn,Reincarnation,My Block,Who Do You Believe In.. like there are tons and he always mentioned his belief in god. That's what I liked because even though he was going through hard times he still had faith. That's why i say i think Pac is the greatest because he connected his pain with the people.
One of Pac’s signature songs is Changes. Like not just the black community, everyone but he also had California Love and Hail Mary and I Get Around and Dear Mama. Dude was diverse and these songs are classics. That’s why people consider him the GOAT and for good reason. Dee is just lost.
Has this dude only listened to 2pac after he hit Death Row. One of the most socially conscious rappers was 2pac. Idk if this dude knows about 2pac. Pac even said it himself ive been dropping consciousness for years but nobody cared until he got to death row and started talking crazy.. I think the fans need to be more responsible for what they buy.. and fffff jay z, no respect for how he sabotaged DMX.
He must haven't listen to 2pac whole catalog. Most of his negative music was for a reason. So u just saying u suppose to let someone punch u and u don't punch back
You approach matters from a logical standpoint. That brainless punch back mentality is what gets you killed and that's why he got popped by Orlando Anderson.
Remember he started off more conscious but got pulled out of it.❤ but he kept a few on his album. Even wonder why they call you b!#%÷. To Crazy. Respect💯
"Yeah that fol be spitting lethal, I love 💖 some Conscious rap. They more lyrical than MOST thug,party rappers. Lupe a god with music he one of my all time favorites. "
I just fell inlove with this guy.. he is so on point.. i dont have a top 5 neither all i know is that nas is the best rapper.. not just my favorite but the best and only a dummy will debate it because its all about receipt.. listen to everyones material and he is the absolute greatest
@@nickb839 I guess he was gon bark at pac cause it wasn't gon be no lyrics to do it pqc would have swallowed him like he did the rest and all they was gon say was pac died so I couldn't respond but he was alive when he dissed yapl you had time but they knew better after he left like said now everybody got so much to say lol smh
Who is this kid?! He’s surely choosing NOT to be familiar with PAC’s catalog. PAC was way ahead of his time. He spoke of life’s realities. His words were pure poetry. The youngins’ are too consumed with the trash that they can’t acknowledge true artistry. PAC was the absolute GREATEST! His words were POWERFUL.
@legarianvance6937 how nas the GOAT when nobody quote his lyrics? Nobody take his lyrics and put them on shirts or tattoos that's Tupac homie... not Nas
@legarianvance6937 but nas himself went and got a Tupac style tattoo on his BELLY!!! where pac had Thug life at ... 💀💀 GODS SON? In the same Spot Pac has Thug life all this AFTER PACS DEATH not before...even went and started wearing the same type of chains pac had and even was wearing bandanas too ...lol . so ask yourself how Nas the GOAT but he copied PAC style... what that make pac? 🤷🏿🤷🏿💯 exactly
I nvr heard none of Bro’s music. However, I’ve been dig’N these snippets. Of the few Seg’s I’ve watched. This 1 compelled a response as he clearly shows his age. “I grew up on Hot Boys…”, “PAC didn’t get a chance…”. Some1 @Dee-1 2paca lypsev Now”. PAC changed lanes to capitalize on the Game. If you know u know ☝🏿
Nas was teaching but he also was rapping that street shit to thru the years. PAC peers wasn’t mentally on his level at that young age which years after his death you started to see other rappers catching up mentally.
You never heard Tupac interviews or music lol you got to be slow you need to study Dr claud Anderson dear mama, Brenda’s got a baby papa song 2Pacalypse Now me against the world big homie lol A mentor
@@larryconnerjr1835hes dope as fuck....start at the absolute power album and go from there. Speaks his life. Great beats and dudes got syllables for days 🤟
If Dee gone take that perspective he might as well stop rapping because rather he like it or not those rappers that didn’t rap positivity had a influence for where he is today. You can’t change what got you where you are now. You got to meet people where they are you can’t force change on nobody who ain’t ready for that. Especially someone stuck with a survival mindset.
👏👏👏 Well said. Not a lot of people would have said that as plainly. I stopped listening to mainstream hip-hop for years after 10 random back to back songs from my playlist glorified violence, drugs, murder, robbery. I was like Dãmn what is this doing to me subconsciously.
I agree. Pac had a LOT of potential. He was VERY good. Then he got caught up in gangsta shit. I think he was about to break out of that and evolve right when he got got.
@@vegito8502 And Makaveli which were his last albums. Those were his last proper projects before he passed which most accurately reflects his mindset before he died..
If self righteous was a clip.. I used to be closed minded like this when I first woke up. Hopefully this brother gets the opportunity to evolve and develope this perspective.
To each it's own, Lupe is not my cup of tea. I don't understand the hype with him. He's averaged lyrically. Feel like I'm listening to Dr. Sesus listening to him rhyme lol
It's hard being a Lupe fan, go to Harvard to be a lupe Stan. Like dude above said, he isn't for everyone, however Nas said the ONLY rapper that reminds him of himself is Lupe. That tells you all you need to know about Lupe. Real hip hop cats know about Lupe's greatness.
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I'm glad he named Lupe Fiasco because he's definitely one of the greats in hip-hop and deserves more respect for what he's added to the culture. Lupe has always been consistent with spreading a positive message and he's an amazing storyteller.
Lupe is trash
Why does everyone overlook guru from gangstar he always had a message rip legend
In terms of feel and aesthetic he is up there. Got classic joints. He is the purists choice.
Spot on!!💯💯💯
@@bolder2009 not just classic joints moment of truth the album is one of the greatest albums in music period !
@@ricardoguillen4731 🎯 💯
By his margin, he should have Outkast in his top 5..
Hell, even Goodie Mob
Facts
Yeah he trippin, there’s plenty more too
What if he’s not fans of the others… y’all can’t tell a man how he feels and who he likes
@@RoadIIDaRiches not telling him how 2 feel... im going on HIS criteria for GOAT status... Outkast is consistent.. positive, and shows, growth
Y'all obviously missed his point with which actually proves his point. Ignorance is our problem
This dude definitely don't know pac that well at all.
He didn't lie tho, considering what he literally said, it wasn't a lie. Pac was always conflicted, and a Gemini by nature, so he always carried that duality.
You should go back and listen to Pac's music. He played the line of Thug and Activist.
I respect him for his art, but I will never forgive him, for how he disrespected Delores C Tucker. Look her up and discover who she was and what she stood for, then go listen to how Pac disrespected her on "How Do You Want It"!
@@capprimentyou need to keep context though. She was literally one of the leaders trying to get rid of rap an hip-hop entirely.
@@cappriment that's cap
@@pep-d7dprove it
2pac was the most diverse Rap Artist ever!!!! He spoke on the good, the Bad, and all in between... FACTS!!!!
He couldn't flow anywher as good as Big
@@vincentcorcoran6247you’re definitely underrating Pac’s flow. Both are dope af. Biggie has a smoother more laid back flow while pac had a very high energy flow.
2 Pac is the most overrated rapper in history!! Basic and average was his level. How many times can a nigga rhyme Enemyyyyyyyyy, Hennesseeeeeey, Enemyyyyyyyyy, Hennesseeeeeey etc....gtfoh!!
Nah he was a confused hypocrite
Dee 1 is in his 30's he choose a "Conscious Rapper" like Nas. I'm in my 30's my top 5 "Rappers" are 2Pac Jay-Z Nas Biggie and DMX 🇺🇸🇯🇲🌍💵🤓📚🥷
"Tupac was conscious too,he was just gangster with it. All conscious rappers a lil hardcore though, all they songs positive, but all of them Pop they slick,macho stuff some times, they just never make full songs about it. Nas was/is a gangster, conscious rapper, he's not all that positive. Nas is a killer, he from the bad bad hood. "
Nas a conscious rapper??? Don’t do him like that 😂😂😂
But thats an amazing list. Dont shame yourself 😂😂
Jay - z 😂😂what a joke
1.) Tupac (Influence/Impact)
2.) Biggie (Flow)
3.) Nas (Longevity/Story telling)
4.) Eminem (Word play)
5.) Krayzie Bone (Melodic/chopper)
My personal opinion
Good list
I’ll swap out Eminem with Big L for wordplay on my list but I agree with everything else
They all had impact on hip hop list doesn’t make sense
@@cuzlightyear6184he's yt that's why he put Eminem on his list, lol.
3.)Nas (well crafted poetry) not longevity.
Lupe Fiasco paved the way for rappers like Kendrick Lamar and Drake. He paved the way for alternative rap.
This is why Jay-Z executive produced Lupe's first album and Lupe wasnt even signed to Jay-Z.
Jay knew Lupe is a star and hes different.
I thought Jay-Z had some kind of association with Chilly so that's why he helped his artist.
the True-Origin iz PE 87 & Native Tongue era 88 ala Q-Tip #respektfully
He paved u nor hip hop
Who paved the way for Lupe?? Kurupt paved the way for K.Dot...
@@natsusatsujinki8342 this is facts. Also, he respected Lupe's pen.
Pac's music was so far ahead of everyone else's you can still feel him when you hear it. It's a reason why his name never died
I listen daily.. it’s crazy
Facts
Pac wasn't even one of the best lyricists....I'll name a alot of dudes that was better lyricists,that wasn't nearly as popular.
I listen to So Many Tears (og vibe version) all the time!
Idol worship
Nas and Lupe been in my top 5 since 08
Guru from gangstar always had a message rip legend !!
3k too
@@gregh_777outkast yes
Lupe mention 🙌🏿 God's Son, Nasir 🙌🏿
2PAC died at the age of 25?!!! How can u say that? When did u find yourself, what age did u met the man that u are 2day!! 2PAC is the G.O.A.T!! HIS MESSAGE HAS NEVER CHANGED!!!?
Yea youngin trippin, most of 2Pac hits had messages. He probably only listen to the ones mainstream deemed were hits
Facts this guy going about it the wrong way
@@user-qd4lk8cs7kthat was literally his point, everyone's reacting to his words only but don't seem to understand the context he was speaking from.
He's 30+. He acknowledged 2pac consciousness at the same time he saying bomb first, blasphemy, Krazy, me and my girlfriend are prevalent. It's just his opinion not facts
#respect
Tupac fans are so emotional it's hilarious, that's literally what he said.
Nas and Tupac is my goats jayz and biggie overrated shout out too Dee 1
LUPE IS Always in my Top 5 he was always on some Conscience Rap...Krayzie Bone too..and OutKast as well 😎
Krayzie bone verse on I Don’t Give A F
Is a must repeat
My top 5 alive; Nas, Common, Black Thought, Lupe and Andre 3K.
Andre 3k is wack 😂
Crazy KRS Busta Redman NAS black thought...will crush them
@@stoptheviolence3358out of his entire list you call out 3K 😂?!
@kincamell2..My top Five Paris the blk panther of hiphop,Wise Intelligent,Killah Priest,Chief Kamachi,Pac..No particular order..After them Nas,Black Though,Krs-1,Immortal Tech,Lupe
Andre a great my boi..He in my top 20
i’ve always said this about Pac…for as Great as he was, the body of work he left behind, the movies, etc. the list of unaccomplished goals he had planned…it’s beyond sad & also unbelievable that when Pac passed…he was NOWHERE near reaching & maximizing his full potential
I love how he claps for himself. Dude is hilarious! We need more of this type of dude in the rap/commentary game.
His mind has been blown wide open.
Everybody has they own opinion, own top whatever. I only got 1 favorite. Don’t need a top five cuz the other 4 don’t matter. Not only did pac live what he rapped about but his interviews and how he carried himself as a person. His point of view. He represented us Geminis proper.
Lived what he rapped about made him better? So you are admitting that if we dont read anything about their lives and focus on just the music itself as it should be then he wont be the best? Hmm i see....
Absolutely 💯
And living what he rapped about is what got him killed at the tender age of 25.
Pac most certainly did not represent us geminis proper, he made us look crazy. He was bipolar as h*ll. One moment he's on positivity talking about we all came from a woman and we must respect woman and next minute he's on some "Keep your mind on your money, fuck these hoes" type shit and referring to women as b*tches in every other song lmao. One moment he's talking about how many brothers fell victims to the streets and then he's rapping about peeling caps. He carried himself as a lunatic and he isn't a role model in the slightest.
You sound like a woman
He’s definitely not familiar with Pac discography or interviews then because it’s not even close. 2pac is literally in a category with Malcom Ali etc
Most pac fans are not familiar with his discography just bandwagon rider fans of all eyez on me and makaveli. Most of them couldn't tell you anything about 2pacalypse Now, Strictly 4 My Ngz, or even the Thug Life compilation..
i think we're all familiar with pacs discography, but some people aint on pacs dick and appreciate the work of other rappers instead. believe or not theres better rappers out there than pac and big.
His life was still cut short. Pac wasn't even in his prime. Pac @ 35 - 40 yrs old smh, we will never know. Therefore, we did not see him fully evolve.
@@thdegj the Thug Life Album went hard, but did you know there's another version of "Bury Me a G" without the Thug Life crew, just Pac on all 4 verses, killing it 😯
You are not paying attention. He said he was flip flopping and growing. He didn’t get a chance to fully evolve to be that true revolutionary person. Strictly For My N’s is my favorite Pac album but peep the difference between that album and All Eyes on Me. I believe Pac would be a totally different person if he had lived. He was on his way and would have been even bigger in the community, politics and music.
I just love it when someone puts Lupe up there among one of the greats. Lu is a master of the game like Nas.
He did get inspiration from the goat, so it makes sense
Nas and Pac - Hip-hop GOATS
Tupac has made music that jay z cant make. Music with empathy.
It cost too much to shine now vs the 80s and 90s. Back then you could flex with a Acura Legend, Benz or Chevy Blazer. Now a Bentley or Ferrari is required. So the Big homies are more preoccupied making their scratch
Rakim, KRS-One, Chuck D
Or Public enemy
How did 2pac not evolve? Every album he put out from 91-96, sounded different lol. Even his voice changed after his first two albums. 2pac the most versatile artist/rapper to come through Hip-Hop
Exactly man,this niqqa must be raised of gospel rap..🎉
He means evolve from a character perspective. He went from a conscious rapper in his early days to essentially becoming a gangster rapper. In reality, it should be the other way round. He showed regression if anything and that's what eventually led to his demise.
@MR12AMAZING
Stop the cap, you obviously didn't listen to his first two albums closely. 2pac was on that gangster ish from the get go. Just more on that military street solider ish. Even on Me Against The Word album too. Dude started the ThugLife in 93 before he went to Death Row. You sound like a straight up casual.
@@MR12AMAZINGyou sound dumb asf, let’s me know y’all don’t listen to him
Pac was living a very negative lifestyle in his final year of life, he turned into a drama queen and got involved in situations he shouldn't have.
Pac did all the things he criticizes these rappers not doing.. Pac spoke on the good and the bad and he showed the bad side of the street life .
Pac was a tag along who stopped caring about everything he did in his early work and wanted to play gangsta and promote negativity with Death Row.
He dnt know pac like we know pac then‼️🤦🏾♂️
He On Jay Z 🍆🤦🏾♂️✨
Not everyone 🍆🚴🏽♂️ pac like yall do
It's funny because he said he could put Nas in his top 5 but he apparently isn't familiar with Nas' catalog, he must have missed songs like "Wanna play rough" where Nas raps about having goons gang rape a man's wife in front of him, and threatening to have a man killed and "stupid nigga" written on his tombstone.
Or "Your mouth got you in it" where Nas raps *"white stocking cap on my face pulled down, from behind all you hear is a gun cock sound and now, I put it on ya mouth, fuck you was sayin', suck on this you trick, try to duck and I'm sprayin'"*
I mean, two of Nas' nicknames were Nasty Nas and Nas Escobar.
For him to say he's about the community but put Jay-Z on a pedestal when he's nothing more than a hip-hop gatekeeper is truly sad.
@@glf9834 facts‼️ but we aint gon get on him 😂😂😂💯💯
What amazes me is how nobody's talking about one of the greatest rappers of all time k rino! And how positive and powerful the messages he spreads with his music are and you also can't leave Vinnie paz out of the greatest rappers of all time convo either...
True but he too raw
Pac, Nas, Ice Cube, Mos Def, Nipsey, Lupe, Big Krit, Kendrick, Jcole, Black Thought, common, KRS one and Lloyd Banks are some of the best Lyricist and they all made Quality Music tryna Evolve the Black Community 🗣️
Lloyd banks 😅 lol good joke
@@j2323j Right
@@j2323jlol Lloyd can rap his azz off though
2pac was an actor and who happens to rap that is why his lyrics was so weak
@@IdontevenknowU get a life bro
Buddy on here look'n like Gambit off X-Men🤣
Lol hell yeah 😆 🤣
Damn 😂
I needed that laugh
Damn no wonder!!!... I'm like where have I seen this dude before 😅
I was definitely thinking DAMN this cat look like 1 of the X-MEN 😂. MY MANS HIT 🎯
He’s not familiar with 2pac catalogue I see.
Pac went from Brenda's Got a Baby and Keep Ya Head up to Bitches and Hoes and being a bullet magnet.
@@romeod7549 found another one who’s not familiar with 2pacs catalogue
@@romeod7549 Pac never had a song called "Bitches and Hoes." Apparently, you're not too familiar with his music catalogue either.
@@nicmag7238u know damn well he’s talking about content not a song title
@@cjlaw228stop acting like bitches n hoes don’t exist goofy. y’all mfs talk like it’s wrong to express yourself
Mos def Yasiin Bey
Mos Definitely
⚫️ 🌟
Nas the g.o.a.t. word up son
little dude!! The ABOVE AVERAGE little rapper nas HELPED to DESTROY HIPHOP MUSIC !! By OVER SATURATING it with ABSOLUTE GARBAGE and he did that with other ABOVE AVERAGE rappers like jz, jada kiss, ALL GROUP MEMBERS of wu tang clan and EVERY GOT DAMN ONE ELSE and REGARDLESS of AGE little dude.
@@valerieabbott9883 bitch nas is the g.o.a.t. 🐐 👑.word up son
He could have added Common and Black Thought. The Fanatstic Four 2024 version!
This guy is just talking, he doesn't know real hip-hop. The more he talk I can tell.
@@blackcherry6877 you may be right. . I ain’t even peep game.
Yup and Sa-Roc, Rhapsody, KRS-1, J Cole, and Kendrick too in my opinion
He obviously never heard Me Against the World
definitely hasn't or Pac first two albums lol
You just too much in your feelings to hear him say Tupac had truth mixed hurtful things for the community.
@@getsugaallen6612 he had positive songs on there shut your punk ass up 😂 just typing to be typing
Totally agree wirh Dee1 the Power✊is the music you 👂put out👂✊industry music 🎶🎚🎶💔is now heart breaking whats being played can not be understood nor sung later for future generations to come💔❤🎶🖤🎶💚💔
2pac’s music isn’t that violent if people pay attention to what he’s actually saying and if he was talking violent majority of the time it was in the name of self defense MOST of the time
This exactly what I was thinking….. 2pacs first album all the way up had more evolved thought then people give him credit for…
Facts
😂 ok whatever you say. Your so called revolutionary Tupac also talked about killing someone’s kids. Oh and that was to a black man he said that to as well. Y’all gotta stop being followers and look at things individually. Tupac was definitely devolving!!! He would have been worse not better. He was actually more wise before he got famous.
As someone who has listened to almost every song released and unreleased that 2Pac has done, I have to disagree. Pre-death row you might be right, but most of his death row catalog was straight up gangsta rap and can’t be responsibly defended. I know he made a number of songs with a positive, uplifting message from death row era (“One Day At A Time”, “Baby Don’t Cry”, “Letter 2 My Unborn”, “The Good Die Young” etc.) but majority of it was profane and degenerate. TBH Pac going to DR and Suge Knight ultimately brought out the worst in him, tho he reached the highest level of success career wise.
@@observelearn2345hip hop ain’t for you. Go to weenie hut jr
Great to see Lupe get his flowers. He should be in the GOAT conversation.
There are TONS of emcees that don’t promote “negative” ish… Black Thought, Common, Posdnuos, etc…
The native tounges
Guru gangstarr
"Yes and I freaking love 💖 it too. All I listen too is Gospel rap and Conscious rap. Pure spiritual and positive
Stuff. Stuff as freak yo. "
"Yes and I freaking love 💖 it too. All I listen too is Gospel rap and Conscious rap. Pure spiritual and positive
Stuff. Stuff as freak yo. "
"Yes and I freaking love 💖 it too. All I listen too is Gospel rap and Conscious rap. Pure spiritual and positive
Stuff. Stuff as freak yo. "
Cant forget big krit
Agreed 💯
He left out so many greats too busy playing the name game focused on famous names.
@@coryhunt3412he’s a bum
this dude clearly wasnt born when pac was here
An you clearly didn't listen to pac 😂
@@crowing3886and you clearly pushing a narrative
@@Pineapples-Mango_Smoothie what narrative is that? Are you deaf? Or are you gonna actually tell whole lies to act like pac only rapped about an preached a persona of positively an black people's progression? Like he wasn't bound to prison for sexual assault before he was killed? Don't let them handful of positive songs negate the dozens of violent an negative ones that were pushing the demise an death of his own people an the disdain an objectively of woman.
Nigga was not a common as much as yall wanna delude each other.
Dee-1 was born in '89.
Naw 85
He don't even know what Pac was about.
To be fair, he addressed that. He said having SOME light in your music isn't the same as denouncing all that hood shit and he believs Pac didn't live long enough to come back and denounce all the hood shit he was saying in a lot of his music.
No, he had it right. Pac had two sides to him, DMX, as well.
I think you're the one who didn't know what Pac was about. Y'all act like he was a saint and that all his songs were in the same field as Keep Ya Head up and Life Goes on but ignore a great chunk of the rest of his catalogue that was promoting misogyny and glorifying violence on other black men.
@@MR12AMAZING Who would consider Pac or anyone to be a saint? By him rapping about the violence and misogyny which surrounded communities like my own it allowed his uplifting messages to get through. At a teenager all I knew was what I saw within a 40 mile radius. That is why when I was a teenager and living like an idiot it struck me when Pac said things like "Do what you gotta do but know you gotta change try to find a way to make it out the game". The only way that sentence reached me is because I perceived Pac as someone that represented me and my living environment thus there was a sense of authenticity. I loved listening to the violent and misogynistic tracks because that is what I could relate to at the time and in turn the positive message reached me as well. If Pac had only rapped positivity I would have dismissed him completely at that time. Pac rapping about misogyny and violence may just be a song to you but it was real life environment for some of us. When you are young you need someone to relate to before you can take what they say seriously. You evolve as you get older thus looking back on who I was an a teenager now make me squirm and I have a sense of guilt for not figuring things out sooner. But at that time and in the hell I was living Pac was able to reach me in a way no one else really could.
@@MR12AMAZING You are suspect. Go listen to your playlist.
Dee 1 is young and I don’t think he has had the chance to fully listen and understand Tupac’s music or career, so I don’t think he has an accurate understanding or depiction of Who Pac really was and what he stood for or else he wouldn’t have said he had sparks he had way more than sparks, the man was luminous
He's like 38
Tupacs discography is untouched..he was young and touched every emotion the human body could feel with his different songs
The man died in 96 at 25 years old and at the time was caught up in the most negative mindset… Dee 1 is talking about people who grew into adults still glorying ignorance… Pac didn’t get that chance to do that in real time… so he isnt speaking about Pac in this because he was a kid when Pac died and didn’t get to mature with a current Pac
Dee 1 is older than you. It's like Pac is beyond criticism to y'all smh lol.
@@MR12AMAZINGso! He still had an overall positive message! Yea he had his own personal demons and opps and he spoke on it but he wasn’t a destructive person to the black community..he was on our side! He was young ..dee 1 act like he high and mighty at 38 to a 25 yr old who did more than we will ever do in this lifetime
Yo ART try to line up a interview with Lupe’s business partner CHILLY. Them dudes been thur ALOT and their stories should be heard if they choose to share it. ✊🏾
Been through a lot??? How?
Listen Pac tried to be positive but niccas gravitates towards sin why it’s written we have done the same thing over and over turn our backs on our creator
Facts
Yessir
There's a lot of rappers that stayed away from that, that grew up in similar circumstances
RIP Pac gone to soon 🕊️
@@FRANKIBABI__ why you trolling a dead man
@@FRANKIBABI__ watch your mouth granny before you get exiled
Only comes down to jealousy. Any disrespect we all know what it is buddy and you don’t have to say nothing else.
Tupac is dead because he decided he wanted to act like a "thug" in his mid 20s when he wasn't cut from that cloth at all😅
@@FRANKIBABI__ you 40 trolling a man who died 30 years ago look at yo self 🤡 dont you get nephews to take care of?
Cormega is a good example of the change he mentioned
Nas been my favorite rapper since day 1
I definitely understand & respect how he feels about rap music.
I can appreciate this man's message.
"I can appreciate a big sexy queen, hey bad thang. You look so good shorty, respect and love for your comment. "
Nas, Mos Def, Lauryn Hill, KRS, Gift of Gab (Blackaliscious), Andre 3000
Yes what this brother is saying is true but at the same time he is judging from a balcony. Things are different on the ground. Meaning pacs era was different and he was actually faced with a lot of things that ppl just see on the internet in the comfortably of their home. It’s easy to look back at history and say yeah I wouldn’t have done that.
Love the way you explained this. 💯
True, but that don't mean he had to rap about some of the things he rapped about. Or said certain things or did certain things that was opposite of the image he wanted to create. Plenty of artists faced hard times. Its how you choose to deal with them and move forward. He was very intelligent from everything I've seen, but he did some very stupid and reckless things. Pac was unfortunately just as much the cause of his death as other outside forces, and people hate to admit that. Instead we like to glorify everything he did just based off the fact that he lived that life and was a good artist.
It’s easy to say pac made mistakes because he did. He got involved in gang activity. You didn’t have to be there to see that was an obvious mistake
@@dylanhopkins5934 Do you know who pac was? Ppl don’t salute that man almost 30 years later because he was quote on quote about that life. Bruh was way more than an artist or any of that. The ppls reaction prove it everytime💯
@@grymeyworld Yes I know who Pac was. I wasn't about to list every reason why people salute him.😂That wasn't really my point.
Tupac actually evolved from what he’s saying a lot earlier than most folks
Tupac didn't evolve, he was promoting negativity while with Death Row and took part in unnecessary violence to beef up his persona like in incidents with Sam Sneed and Orlando Anderson.
@@kevthegoat8774 stay off the drugs
He evolved thru his music mentally
Don't condemn if you see a person has a dirty glass of water, just show them the clean glass of water that you have. When they inspect it, you won't have to say that yours is better.
-Elijah Muhammad
Nas tried the gangster rap image too like Shoot Em Up,A Favor For A Favor,Tales Of The Hood but changed his message. That's what Pac did too,but for me Pacs best tracks were the sad ones like So Many Tears,Lord Knows,Dear Mama,White Mans World,Only Fear Of Death,Nothing To Lose,Unconditional Love,Part Time Mother,Letter To My Unborn,Reincarnation,My Block,Who Do You Believe In.. like there are tons and he always mentioned his belief in god. That's what I liked because even though he was going through hard times he still had faith. That's why i say i think Pac is the greatest because he connected his pain with the people.
One of Pac’s signature songs is Changes. Like not just the black community, everyone but he also had California Love and Hail Mary and I Get Around and Dear Mama. Dude was diverse and these songs are classics. That’s why people consider him the GOAT and for good reason. Dee is just lost.
He says Nas but Nas raps about everything he’s against 😅
This clown the biggest hypocrite so far 😅
Nas raps about everything..but he's more conscious than a Lotta rappers
Nas doesn’t glorify it you can rap about but it’s a difference in glorification
crybaby pacsexual, you can tell this is a pac fan page lol
You must haven’t heard much Nas
@@tilwannadavis8883
Street Dreams music video copied casino
Glorification of mobsters
Has this dude only listened to 2pac after he hit Death Row. One of the most socially conscious rappers was 2pac. Idk if this dude knows about 2pac. Pac even said it himself ive been dropping consciousness for years but nobody cared until he got to death row and started talking crazy.. I think the fans need to be more responsible for what they buy.. and fffff jay z, no respect for how he sabotaged DMX.
He must haven't listen to 2pac whole catalog. Most of his negative music was for a reason. So u just saying u suppose to let someone punch u and u don't punch back
Bruh don’t be mad cause he’s not a stan not everyone thought pac was the best and he’s entitled to his opinion
@@realfloxks__0637Its not about being a stan its about knowing what you are talking about. This guy does not.
You approach matters from a logical standpoint. That brainless punch back mentality is what gets you killed and that's why he got popped by Orlando Anderson.
Stop with the excuses for Tupac😂
Nas & 2Pac are the greatest.
Tupac was the greatest wannabe masculine man😅
PAC definitely evolved not fully but he definitely evolved
Remember he started off more conscious but got pulled out of it.❤ but he kept a few on his album. Even wonder why they call you b!#%÷. To Crazy. Respect💯
He was doing movies 🎥 he definitely was about to be bigger than will smith
#peace he devolved ala 2pacalypsenow #respektfully
@@j2323j Tupac would've had more gay acting roles than will Smith 😅
@@IdontevenknowU
Ok wack -100
Nas talk mob stuff to tbh
This dude a cliwn....
So does Lupe
@@dreedwards6859When?
exactly lmaooo .
he was dissing Cudi everyday until they just recently until they squash it lmaooo nobody positive all the time lol@@dreedwards6859
Lupe is criminally underrated
"Yeah that fol be spitting lethal, I love 💖 some Conscious rap. They more lyrical than MOST thug,party rappers. Lupe a god with music he one of my all time favorites. "
Bro you need to worry about you, you're not the gatekeeper of what MFs can rap about
When did he say he was? Lol
Facts! And speaking of MF’s! He forgot MF Doom!!
@crowing3886 do you need a qtip? He's been saying it every post. Drug music, street music, etc.
You're emotional, hope you don't have kids, interviewer asked him his opinion and you mad bc he talked about your bf.
Hes too intelligent for you low IQ boys
1. Guru (Gangstarr)
2. Nas
3. Andre 3000
4. Mos Def
5. Common
aye Dee you must haven't listened to Pacs first 2 albums Talked about oppression and black power
Exactly. Dude speaking out his ass
He making a lot of good points tho , it’s even hard for me to not listen to trap music fr fr it’s so catchy and the beats really lure you in
I just fell inlove with this guy.. he is so on point.. i dont have a top 5 neither all i know is that nas is the best rapper.. not just my favorite but the best and only a dummy will debate it because its all about receipt.. listen to everyones material and he is the absolute greatest
he can’t touch pac
I still believe if Pac had lived…him & Nas would’ve teamed up against Jay & BIG
Pac would ate his ass up @@FRANKIBABI__
Dmx foh
Tupac would've had a lot of gay acting roles had he lived
@@FRANKIBABI__DMX was a smoker/crackhead 😂 he could barely put a sentence together without gasping for air let alone rap
@@nickb839 I guess he was gon bark at pac cause it wasn't gon be no lyrics to do it pqc would have swallowed him like he did the rest and all they was gon say was pac died so I couldn't respond but he was alive when he dissed yapl you had time but they knew better after he left like said now everybody got so much to say lol smh
Who is this kid?! He’s surely choosing NOT to be familiar with PAC’s catalog. PAC was way ahead of his time. He spoke of life’s realities. His words were pure poetry. The youngins’ are too consumed with the trash that they can’t acknowledge true artistry. PAC was the absolute GREATEST! His words were POWERFUL.
He a church boy his mind isn't strong enough yet
PAC didn't live long enuff that's why plus NAS is the 🐐
@legarianvance6937 how nas the GOAT when nobody quote his lyrics? Nobody take his lyrics and put them on shirts or tattoos that's Tupac homie... not Nas
@@legarianvance6937 nobody ever went a got a Nas tattoo.... 🤷🏿💀💀
@legarianvance6937 but nas himself went and got a Tupac style tattoo on his BELLY!!! where pac had Thug life at ... 💀💀 GODS SON? In the same Spot Pac has Thug life all this AFTER PACS DEATH not before...even went and started wearing the same type of chains pac had and even was wearing bandanas too ...lol . so ask yourself how Nas the GOAT but he copied PAC style... what that make pac? 🤷🏿🤷🏿💯 exactly
Nas & Lupe Fiasco is also in my top 5. Always been my favorite rappers.
How hes talking ,this guy is on his way to being a GOAT!!
It appears to me that Dee 1 is being respectful of others and he is speaking from his own perspective being honest is the only way!
Nas arguably TOP 3 dead or alive!
I nvr heard none of Bro’s music. However, I’ve been dig’N these snippets. Of the few Seg’s I’ve watched. This 1 compelled a response as he clearly shows his age.
“I grew up on Hot Boys…”, “PAC didn’t get a chance…”. Some1 @Dee-1 2paca lypsev Now”. PAC changed lanes to capitalize on the Game. If you know u know ☝🏿
Nas was teaching but he also was rapping that street shit to thru the years. PAC peers wasn’t mentally on his level at that young age which years after his death you started to see other rappers catching up mentally.
you can’t be serious
@@realfloxks__0637 pac was on it since 2pacalypse now
Pac ain't mad at ya. Lupe will forever be one of if not is my favorite rapper though.💯
You never heard Tupac interviews or music lol you got to be slow you need to study Dr claud Anderson dear mama, Brenda’s got a baby papa song 2Pacalypse
Now me against the world big homie lol A mentor
I’ve never been that big of a Nas fan but I respect his lyrical ability my top 5 is 1 Tupac 2 Scarface 3 Ice Cube 4 Biggie 5 Jay Z
what about tech n9ne?
@@tylerraisl3939 i haven’t heard enough of his music but I like some of his shit that I heard
@@larryconnerjr1835hes dope as fuck....start at the absolute power album and go from there. Speaks his life. Great beats and dudes got syllables for days 🤟
I'm from New Orleans, this dude sound dumb... 2pac talk about everything in life plus he was so far in the game, his words when over people head!!!!
Bob Marley and the Wailers are the greatest musicians ever! Number 1
If Dee gone take that perspective he might as well stop rapping because rather he like it or not those rappers that didn’t rap positivity had a influence for where he is today. You can’t change what got you where you are now. You got to meet people where they are you can’t force change on nobody who ain’t ready for that. Especially someone stuck with a survival mindset.
I feel you..truly. But can't he force change on himself tho? He openly says it's a choice to change.
Lupe been number 1. My favorite and now my oldest daughters favorite
The Bible has more destruction than all the Gangsta rappers combined…. Basket Head ass 🤣🤣
Thank you lol
😂😂😂
Agreed, modern religions as a whole. Mental, Spiritual, and Physical Warfare Historically. People will wake up eventually though
Nas is more of a Martin Luther King and PAC is more of a Malcolm X so I get it..Pac not just gonna talk about it, he’s more with actions
Nasty Nas Escobar is his favorite rapper huh? The only rapper he can put in his top 5 huh?
Ok. 😂
Nas my GOAT. Since I was 14 when Illmatic dropped
Pac was also a very conscious rapper
We need another conscious rapper from the south.
Powerful information SALUTE KING DEE 1❤
👏👏👏 Well said. Not a lot of people would have said that as plainly.
I stopped listening to mainstream hip-hop for years after 10 random back to back songs from my playlist glorified violence, drugs, murder, robbery. I was like Dãmn what is this doing to me subconsciously.
I agree. Pac had a LOT of potential. He was VERY good. Then he got caught up in gangsta shit.
I think he was about to break out of that and evolve right when he got got.
Your only frame of reference is “all eyez on me”
@@vegito8502 And Makaveli which were his last albums. Those were his last proper projects before he passed which most accurately reflects his mindset before he died..
@@vegito8502 No brother... You are VERY mistaken. He should never have left Digital Underground. Unfortunately, he had no say in the matter.
If self righteous was a clip.. I used to be closed minded like this when I first woke up. Hopefully this brother gets the opportunity to evolve and develope this perspective.
IS HE SAYING NAS DIDNT GLORIFY MURDER,DRUGS, AND SEX ???
Yes 😂
And he’s wrong
I believe the Rapper Common should most definitely make you're top 5. 💯🎙🎤
Pac didn't have time to reach Big Homie status! The guy has raised generations and continues to do so!
Where is the rest of this interview series? The full interview?
This man said Lupe fiasco 😂😂😂😂😂
To each it's own, Lupe is not my cup of tea. I don't understand the hype with him. He's averaged lyrically. Feel like I'm listening to Dr. Sesus listening to him rhyme lol
It's hard being a Lupe fan, go to Harvard to be a lupe Stan. Like dude above said, he isn't for everyone, however Nas said the ONLY rapper that reminds him of himself is Lupe. That tells you all you need to know about Lupe. Real hip hop cats know about Lupe's greatness.
@@BJonesReactz1 Ssssshhhhhhh 😴
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Macklemore & Ryan LewisToad's PlaceBridgeport, Connecticut, United StatesNov 17, 2012
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis / Dee-1 / X-PerienceHigher Ground BallroomBurlington, Vermont, United StatesNov 16, 2012
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis / Dee-1 / X-PerienceHigher Ground BallroomBurlington, Vermont, United