Did it ever say then in the new testament that no more tithing? Giving includes tithes and offering which is what is referring to when it says be generous
Tithing and giving not to be mixed. John MacArthur, David Pawson, Zac Poonen, Francis Chan are amongst the numerous Bible teachers who mention that tithing is not for Christians.
Should you pay tithes? That's a matter of choice. There's nothing wrong with choosing to do so, money or otherwise, to a religious institution or otherwise, but today's version of tithing from earned wages carries no biblical precedent. As such, no biblical obligation.
It is not possible to tithe nor is it possible to give to the church anything material. It is not possible for man to start a church. It is not possible for man to name a church even if it is a biblical sounding name. It is not possible for man to build a church. It is not even possible for man to attend a church or go to church in the flesh. Jesus Christ is building His Church Heb 12:23 in heaven and we can be added to them only in Spirit and truth. All earthly denominations and cults are just men running businesses. God commands His people to come out of that. The commandment is to Love one another in the faith as He loved those He raised from the dead - the Heb 12:23 church in heaven. They are the New Jerusalem and they are coming back with Christ for those who believe the Testimony. Those who are not rebirthed will be His enemies. Many today come in Christ's name and deceive many. They worship the creation rather than the Creator.
Should you pay tithes? You can PAY to whomever whatever you purpose. The problem comes in when men claiming God's authority try to compel you to pay a tithe to them for their "service". There is no such thing as a "tithe" today. If you purpose to "give' a man 10% of your income that's your choice, but God does not require you to tithe. Giving to those less fortunate is the New Covenant teaching.
Acts 20:35 [35]I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. ...yes we are not under the Law, but remmember the secret of blessings is Giving.🙏🙏🙏
Hebrews 7:8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living. Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek and Jesus is our High Priest today in the order of Melchizedek. God bless you pastor.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts. My prayer is that people will give out of gratitude and love for God, who is the sole purpose of our worship, to begin with.
Maraming millionaire na pastors ngyon..talo pa nila kaming nagbubunot ng buto. Walang turo ang panginoon tunkol thites..mga kapwa ko christiano DOCTRINE ni JESUS ang dapat natin tularan.(2 JOHN 1:7~10)
@@markb7067 so if I pay tithes I going to be save. if I lie commit adultery homosexual acts. steal that doesn't matter GOD said why don't you and everybody else. force on people soul get your mind off.money. what dose tithes have to do bringing soul to JESUS when JESUS die on the cross. not one time did HE ask the theft on the right for tithes and offering
😂😅hai naku itong mga born again at evangelical di nagkakasundo, nagkakasulangatan sa tithing pinaniwalaan pa ng ibang born again at evangelical si bro eli soriano nagsisiraan sila about sa tithing, pastor sa pastor nagsisiraan sa tithing, tuwang -tuwa ung ibang relihiyon sa inyo😂😅. Idinidiin palagi ng hindi na naniniwala sa tithing ay ang 2 Cor. 9:7 na itong talatang ito ang dapat ng sundin ngunit dapat ito ay basahin ang buong chapter ng 2 Cor. 9 na itoy tumutukoy sa pagtulong, pagkakawanggawa at pag-aabuluyan.😢😢😢
I still believe that tithing is very important to a believers, because GOD has given you investesment to use for your business, so return to HIM what is HIS, and if you are blest whether amall or big dont to give love offrg to the LORD, Mahiya na man tayo, theres no verse in the Bible that tithes is omitted or no more
Thanks for being here. But may I ask you humbly, if you think that the question and explanation are wrong: 1. How would you frame the question? 2. How would you explain it biblically?
Very biblical.. That is what is important..staying along the word of God in every conduct and practice.. No other reason and excuses but to follow what is instructed in the word of God.. Just following the instruction as explicitly commanded in God's word, even in giving..2 Cor. Ch.8 & Ch.9.. Can i ask if there is any congregation in our country that even submit to this biblical teaching in giving? I remain until this day unable to find one congregation in this country that does not practice tithing. It is so sad that i know in my heart some of these church leaders know God's instruction biblically but they ride the bandwagon of this tithing. I would state so far as to say that any so-called church that violates in this issue of giving is already portraying a red flag to be inconsistent even in some of their hidden distinctive practices against some more essential christian doctrines, in some, i would surmise..as evidently exposed recently in the double lives of church leaders recently.. Evidently in the surface they are of course putting forward in the open the usual common Christian church doctrines that are truly Christian in most cases, but when it regards giving, in this they fall miserably, opening hidden doors for double lives ..so sad.. God intends biblical teaching without making intentional swerve and make excuse by using human reasoning to thwart truth. May your message bring purity to the true church of God, of Christ.. Pls. post Philippine congregations in our country in key cities that are not practicing tithing but are first giving themselves to God and so they are able to give generously and bountifully as they have determined in their heart without compulsion (from church leaders).. 2 Cor. 8 & 9 Sincerely..
Did it ever say then in the new testament that no more tithing? Giving includes tithes and offering which is what is referring to when it says be generous
It never said in the Old Testament to tithe money to anyone. If you want to follow that logic - take your pastor a mess- o- greens and some taters.
Thank you Pastor sa pag elaborate at masagot ang mga confusions about tithe vs giving..
Tithing and giving not to be mixed. John MacArthur, David Pawson, Zac Poonen, Francis Chan are amongst the numerous Bible teachers who mention that tithing is not for Christians.
Should you pay tithes? That's a matter of choice. There's nothing wrong with choosing to do so, money or otherwise, to a religious institution or otherwise, but today's version of tithing from earned wages carries no biblical precedent. As such, no biblical obligation.
It is not possible to tithe nor is it possible to give to the church anything material. It is not possible for man to start a church. It is not possible for man to name a church even if it is a biblical sounding name. It is not possible for man to build a church. It is not even possible for man to attend a church or go to church in the flesh. Jesus Christ is building His Church Heb 12:23 in heaven and we can be added to them only in Spirit and truth. All earthly denominations and cults are just men running businesses. God commands His people to come out of that. The commandment is to Love one another in the faith as He loved those He raised from the dead - the Heb 12:23 church in heaven.
They are the New Jerusalem and they are coming back with Christ for those who believe the Testimony. Those who are not rebirthed will be His enemies. Many today come in Christ's name and deceive many. They worship the creation rather than the Creator.
Should you pay tithes? You can PAY to whomever whatever you purpose. The problem comes in when men claiming God's authority try to compel you to pay a tithe to them for their "service". There is no such thing as a "tithe" today. If you purpose to "give' a man 10% of your income that's your choice, but God does not require you to tithe. Giving to those less fortunate is the New Covenant teaching.
Its not about paying but returning what belongs to God
Your every breath belongs to Him, not just the material things you acquire. Your every thought must be brought into submission.
Acts 20:35
[35]I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
...yes we are not under the Law, but remmember the secret of blessings is Giving.🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for sharing this verse as well as your thoughts. God bless!
Why the term "pay"! It should be GIVE.
Hebrews 7:8
In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.
Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek and Jesus is our High Priest today in the order of Melchizedek. God bless you pastor.
And christ is the homeless and downtrodden. Tithes should go to the poor not a church
Matthew 22:21
“Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
I give tithes.
Churches are still asking week in week out for tithes. Will appreciate they do not mention tithes when collecting and asking for offerings
I appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts. My prayer is that people will give out of gratitude and love for God, who is the sole purpose of our worship, to begin with.
GIVING TITHE DEPENDS ON YOUR FAITH ABOUT GIVING. YOU CAN GIVE TITHES AND AT THE SAME TIME OFFERINGS.
Kung ikaw isang dakilang kuripot at the same time dakilang buraot di ka makapag bigay ng tithes mo o offering dahil sa taglay mong kuripot
Maraming millionaire na pastors ngyon..talo pa nila kaming nagbubunot ng buto.
Walang turo ang panginoon tunkol thites..mga kapwa ko christiano DOCTRINE ni JESUS ang dapat natin tularan.(2 JOHN 1:7~10)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. God bless!
Giving vs Paying?
Could someone please answer this question why do people pick verse in the bible to obey but other verse in the bible they will not obey
Because it's convenient to pick and choose to support a paradigm built on subjective interpretation and programming.
@@markb7067 so if I pay tithes I going to be save. if I lie commit adultery homosexual acts. steal that doesn't matter GOD said why don't you and everybody else. force on people soul get your mind off.money. what dose tithes have to do bringing soul to JESUS when JESUS die on the cross. not one time did HE ask the theft on the right for tithes and offering
Can you pls educate us how can we understand what does
Numbers 18:8 may applied to Christians today
Thank you brother for clearing this matter....GODBLESS you bro
😂😅hai naku itong mga born again at evangelical di nagkakasundo, nagkakasulangatan sa tithing pinaniwalaan pa ng ibang born again at evangelical si bro eli soriano nagsisiraan sila about sa tithing, pastor sa pastor nagsisiraan sa tithing, tuwang -tuwa ung ibang relihiyon sa inyo😂😅. Idinidiin palagi ng hindi na naniniwala sa tithing ay ang 2 Cor. 9:7 na itong talatang ito ang dapat ng sundin ngunit dapat ito ay basahin ang buong chapter ng 2 Cor. 9 na itoy tumutukoy sa pagtulong, pagkakawanggawa at pag-aabuluyan.😢😢😢
Thanks for commenting. You have a point. I don't think it is God's desire to see Christians argue over these matters.
I still believe that tithing is very important to a believers, because GOD has given you investesment to use for your business, so return to HIM what is HIS, and if you are blest whether amall or big dont to give love offrg to the LORD, Mahiya na man tayo, theres no verse in the Bible that tithes is omitted or no more
Thank you for encouragement❤❤
May the truth and correct doctrine be applied
Mali Yung tanong - Mali ang explanation
Thanks for being here. But may I ask you humbly, if you think that the question and explanation are wrong:
1. How would you frame the question?
2. How would you explain it biblically?
Amen😊
amen
Amen
Amen
Very biblical..
That is what is important..staying along the word of God in every conduct and practice..
No other reason and excuses
but to follow what is instructed in the word of God..
Just following the instruction as explicitly commanded in God's word, even in giving..2 Cor. Ch.8 & Ch.9..
Can i ask if there is any congregation in our country that even submit to this biblical teaching in giving?
I remain until this day unable to find one congregation in this country that does not practice tithing.
It is so sad that i know in my heart some of these church leaders know God's instruction biblically but they ride the bandwagon of this tithing.
I would state so far as to say
that any so-called church that violates in this issue of giving is already portraying a red flag to be inconsistent even in some of their hidden distinctive practices against some more essential christian doctrines, in some, i would surmise..as evidently exposed recently in the double lives of church leaders recently..
Evidently in the surface they are of course putting forward in the open the usual common Christian church doctrines that are truly Christian in most cases, but when it regards giving, in this they fall miserably, opening hidden doors for double lives ..so sad..
God intends biblical teaching without making intentional swerve and make excuse by using human reasoning to thwart truth.
May your message bring purity to the true church of God, of Christ..
Pls. post Philippine congregations in our country in key cities that are not practicing tithing but are first giving themselves to God and so they are able to give generously and bountifully as they have determined in their heart without compulsion (from church leaders)..
2 Cor. 8 & 9
Sincerely..
Yes we should give. But when tithe is mentioned for giving it does put me off.
If you can not afford to give tithes then give offerings heartily