To each his own. The numbers don't lie, as the title says. Someone IS wifing up these single moms and from the most vocal comments on this thread saying they would never date or marry one, will be the main ones doing it. They doth protest too much. My Filipina GF is a single mom. I didn't have to choose her, but she had a great personality that stood out. Whatever a man chooses to do with his resources and time is his business no matter what we think of them or call them. I think a lot of these guys are just parroting what their favorite UA-camr is saying and they don't want to stand out or feel embarrased. Women do that to us enough, we don't need to shame each other. All men want affection, respect, a full stomach, and empty loins. Even if she has a child(2 would be my limit) I don't see myself passing that up.
@@kevindavis3598 Richie you are absolutely right about men wifing up single mothers in the Philippines. Not in the states . Two different minds sets. The single mothers in the Philippines are taught at an early age to respect men and know their place is beside her man and to be a help mate. In the states these women feel entitled to think that they’re the prize. I heard it to many times that a woman especially a black woman say I ain’t putting no man before my children. When I was a young lad I can just off the top of my head think about men who got with single mothers and help raise them. The woman had several children and the men still excepted the mother and her children. The children grew up and when the man got older they looked out for him because they loved and respected him as a man as a father and someone who loved them as though they were his own children. Richie two different eras. Men are not respected especially black men. Women are looking for some simp to raise her brood and he can’t discipline the children. They disrespect the man and the woman upholds them in their behavior. Furthermore he can’t even get a child from this woman. You’ve seen videos from KS and the women coming on his platform saying the most obvious things about their children. Black men are not excepting that kind of disrespect anymore. We as black people have the highest numbers of unwed mothers. The highest number of single women because no man wants to deal with the negative attitude masculine energy not being fit friendly cooperative feminine submission. Fake hair wigs weaves nails eyelashes children by multiple men. When I was in the Philippines I didn’t see no wigs multi colored hair long fingernails. Women walking around half naked. May I add I didn’t hear a single cuss word. Richie I’m a cusser but since coming from the Philippines I have cut the cussing pretty much out of my vocabulary. Men will sleep with black women but that ain’t marrying them at all. Every day on tv you see high profile black men marrying outside of their race. Black athletes marrying white and other nationalities other than black women. As an older black man I don’t even want to deal with a black woman any longer . I would rather be by myself than deal with a black woman. Richie your site is different you have a great partner and her two sons love and respect you. Let’s me make myself clear in my experiences I wouldn’t date a single mother in the states but since coming to the Philippines and Thailand I might have to change my opinion on single mothers. I married my wife didn’t I? Who knows what the future will hold for me but thanks to you and Cheng I have decided to just travel and meet new people and make new friends. I made two great friends with you and Cheng and that’s just the beginning. Anyway I look forward to seeing you in March and Cheng in the future. Take care you two until we meet again. Uncle Johnnie
Ps Richie ur right about one thing dating single mothers is one thing marrying them is another. What I have read in the comment section is more are against dating a single woman than dating a single mother. Dating a single mother for sex is one thing but a long term relationship and marriage is another issue. As the old saying goes why marry the cow when you can have the milk for free?
The reality is that after you reach a certain age, most of the available women are single moms. They're not ALL bad , but vet carefully brothers, or you'll be out of pocket in no time!
Rich and Cheng, another great video! My gf is a single mom. I'm in my mid-50s and while my preference would have been to date a woman without kids, I also don't want to date someone in their early to mid-20s either. So that leaves limited options. The key is to vet carefully. If the woman starts hitting you up for $$$ for her kid(s) expenses early in the dating process, WALK AWAY!
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6olRichie I’ve been reading a lot of the comments to me it seems like more men are against dating single mothers. You know I told you about my experience with single mothers. I married one who I loved to death and I still love her. The reality was dealing with her sons. They cause me so much anxiety aggravation headaches heartaches pain and suffering depression. You name it I claim it. Yes love won out but look at the toll it did on me? I have not completely forgotten what it was like for me to have to deal with her sons. I would suggest to any man no matter how good the woman is if her children are ill mannered disrespectful behavior problems don’t even get involved. No man needs to go through what I went through for the love of a woman and her brood. When you get to a certain point in your life you don’t want drama you just want peace. With most single mothers you definitely won’t have peace. Been there done that. Peace peace and more peace. I LOVE it. C u soon 😊
I’ve been married to a woman with kids, I’ve been in a long term relationship with a woman who had kids and I also had kids so not that big of a deal. I think when you are older the odds are good she’s going to have a children. The difference between then and now though is in retirement I want the freedom to travel anytime I want, for as long as I want and that’s next to impossible with kids. So that’s why it’s kind of a deal breaker for me at this stage in life. Luckily I found someone who is getting towards the end of child bearing years without any kids. Btw, another good video on a pretty important topic. Thank you!
Thanks Huff, I like to keep an open mind on this topic and never say never, but i definitely understand the ramifications of dating a single mom and most men wont do it without getting over some major hurdles. Each man has to decide for himself whether he thinks it is worth his own time, effort, and money.
Sup Richie & Cheng? Excellent video, you hit on all the key points of dating a single mom. If I had to add one more point, it would be that you as the man isn’t going to be the her main focus in that relationship. Cheng if I could I’d give you both of my thumbs up!
Hi Rich. Good video and very important topic. I got married to a filipina in her early 30s with no kids. It was my preference. I don't say I wouldn't have dated a single mom, but her situation has to be compatible with what I was looking for. I also want to say that not all single moms are the same. A widow is not the same as a woman who dated too many guys and finds herself pregnant by an irresponsible guy who disappears. Every woman is different, every situation is different. The most important is to be with the right person. I talked to a few single moms when I was on the dating site. Many were lovely and beautiful women. But I chose my wife because she checked all the boxes of my requirements.
Hey realdeal, you are preaching to the choir bro. That is exactly why I chose Cheng. She checked almost all the boxes for me. As you said, her situation was different in that she was a widow and not just some baby mama. Vet her and her situation too!
Every woman and situation is different. Choose the one that ticks most of the boxes. After all, it is your choice to choose the woman whom you want to spend the rest of your life with. Thank you for choosing me and the boys, Rich ❤. You know the rest.
Good luck, I experienced this. My single Mom that I married was a liar about her age, her education goals and when she was going to bring her two kids from East Malaysia. Marrying this woman was the biggest mistake of my life. I stayed with her to raise her kids and she abandoned me travel around the world when I had cancer. I was 43 when I married her. She was 47 but lied and claimed to be forty though she did look older. I had never dated a Chinese woman before. She asked me to marry her within six months of meeting her so she could stay in the United States. She did not have a skill, she was working illegally as a cashier at a Chinese restaurant. I was set up by a Taiwanese lady whose restaurant was close to where I lived. She promised to go to college but after we were married she refused to go. She lied about everything. She was from Sabah, Malaysia.
Wow John, you semi eluded to this earlier, but I didnt get the whole story from you until now. Yeah that one is tough and I definitely feel for you. We live and learn, dont we? Im curious ... in hindsight, were there signs that you just chose to ignore at that time and later you looked back and said " I should've listened to my gut instincts!"?
Very interesting topic. I previously stated that I would not date a single mom, but the reality is there are a lot of single moms and as you stated guys really need to vet the single mom. Specifically, one should consider how many kids does the single mom have; single or multiple baby daddys; and the relationship between the single mom and the baby daddy. No one wants to endure multiple men coming to their door every weekend to pick up children or a baby daddy that's always around. If the mom is not working.... serious red flag because the expectation will be there spoken or not for you to provide financial support for the children and her.
The thing about falling for a young Filipina without children when an expat is pushing 60, is she willing to stick around? I think most Filipinas are hardwired to want to have children. So who knows really knows if they will stick around into your older age? Especially when you have some if health problems chill up and You haven't given her children. This is something that could probably be argued about a single mother being more loyal. I'm guessing that there are a lot of single Filipina mothers that want an older guy with experience as a father and husband to lead the family. That woman would probably not leave her husband. I have thought about this in the past. All of us expats here are going to get old. Growing old alone is not an easy thing. In summary, it could be a good win for a single Filipina mother and an older expat as long as the details are agreed upon and worked out. I can't believe I said this 😆😆😆
This is a great comment, and I have had similar thoughts in a lot of ways. But the main thing for me is that most, if not all filipinas want to have at least one child. It doesn't matter if she tells you now that she is fine with not having one. She WILL want one in the future. I don't have any kids, and don't really want to have any. So its probably better for me to eventually get with a single mother. But she can't have more than one kid, and the father can be nowhere in the picture, in ANY capacity. In some ways it might work out better if it's not my kid because I'm not overly obligated to do some of the things like pay for college and buying cars, etc. 😂. Food on the table, roof over your head, and clothes on your back. If the kid wants extra things like college, etc., better be a really great kid that doesn't disrespect me in any way, or causes me any grief.
This is a very interesting perspective Pernel. I came here thinking the same as you, but i quickly figured out that there was a reason that those ladies were single with no kids. In any case, youre gonna need to vet carefully and choose the woman who has her own job, can take care of herself and where you can easily fit in without too many issues.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol Always vetting Sir. But I'm really trying to stay single anyway. If a guy comes here and lives, while avoiding getting permanently locked down his first few months. It becomes less likely that he will want to get locked down because so many dating options here in the Philippines. Unless of course ,the foreigner is one of those men who wasn't really successfully dating in his home country. He might feel like he has no choice but to keep whomever he was able to meet online before he came here. And that's fine if he's really content with her. But for most men I think when they see all of these women here, (WATSON'S ANYONE???)you will most certainly want to trade up. 😂
In life, we are all trying to win. The Phils is a great place to be, but you had better come here with the right mindset for sure. Nobody wants to take that L if they dont have to.
Well the most important thing You should not even be thinking about dating, rather male or female until you have yourself together and your life together. You should not need another person in your life. You might want to share your life with somebody that could be part of the plan, but you need to be complete within yourself and have your life and direction in order and be on your path and then if you meet somebody and she must have join you on your path. Okay, consider it if you have to make substantial adjustments to the direction you're going in. Probably it's not going to work. Always going to be adjustments, but they should not be big life-changing adjustments. She needs to join you on your path in life and you need to take her thoughts and feelings into consideration when you make your decisions
I love your Topic Today Hello Mega shoutout Sir Rich & Cheng Honestly No body is the right to Judge a Single Mom They have there Own Story no body knows what really Happens to them what They been through. Me my story I got Pregnant when i was 17 you fall in love , you fail and You Learned that’s the Important ,then i work I raise my kid i work in Korea then I met my husband. When I met my husband I told him right away that I had Kid . I told him I don’t play around if you can’t accept my kid. We’re done we’re like a package deal . I cannot abandon my child just for guy period 😅 Then finally here we become lovers for 4 years before we got Married. Now we’re 15 years Married and 19 years together. We Have 13 years age gap don’t judge me I love it like that it’s mature and loving husband responsible. I love everything about him.
Renze, youre tugging at my heart over here. Great story and thanks for sharing. Really enjoy reading your recent comments. Keep doing what youre doing. There are quality women everywhere. Some men will have to churn through the bad ones to get to the good ones!
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol yes its true Sir . Like I always say Its Ok to be Fall in Love but you have to be smarter too . And Pray to God that give the right person for you . But I Already think Cheng is the right person for you because she always makes you smile 🥰
She absolutely does make me smile Renze! Thank you for watching and adding your comments. We are both really enjoying reading what you have to say. Love having a womans perspective; even if it is a little different sometimes. It gives us something to think about.
I also know a lot of women in their mid-30s or 40+ who are single. The question you want to ask though is how long have they been single and why are they still single.
@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol ......... with the demographic of women (in the Philippines) that I have mentioned: (1) They are 🚫 not sharing their bodies until married. In many cases. (2) Many (not all) are less experienced with dealing with men or relationships in general. (3) Many (not all) are more westernized. (4) U will have to "date" her family as well as her. U better mean BUSINESS if she goes out with you.
Glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate ya. We try to keep it real and give you facts and our perspective based on those facts. Then you choose your own course of action.
Peter, I actually WOULD! Not saying that you'll be 100% successful, but many of those women put a lot of effort into going to those and they know that they are competing with a lot of other women; yet they are putting their best foot forward. I would say that those kinds of events offer women who are employed and more mature than the avg woman on a dating website. The fact that youre meeting her F2F initally is a plus too! You still have to ask a lot of questions though and vet carefully. You need to know about her, her family, and her living situation too. Possibly her past relationships if there are children in the picture. But i think those are a good way to meet a decent Filipina. Just my 2 cents.
I believe that remaining single is the best life for a man. I will never be needy enough to raise another man’s kids. I was raised by a stepfather. He did not get my love and respect until I became a man and understood what he had done for me. I would not do it.
Hello Rich and Cheng, very good topic today. When I became a widower when I turned 47 I had two daughters in college one in UCLA that other in UCSB. The only women that started blowing up my phone and dropping food by the house. You guessed it Single Moms. In Cali that's all it was!!!
The way through a man's heart is through his stomach. Rich might have figured it out by this time, why I feed him so much lol. I'm sorry for your loss, Rodmo.
Remind them to make sure that the single mom is not married. Dating a married woman in the Philippines can get you arrested for adultery if the husband who has left over 5 years ago or longer can call the cops on you.
@@Mandy-Bee-k7k there’s the problem. Dating a single mother is alright if thats all you want. You want a relationship that hopefully ends in marriage. Most men will date a single mother for sex and that’s it. I married a single mother who had children. Two were grown and youngest was 8. Dating a single mother comes with a lot of challenges that I would advise any man to think long and hard before getting into a relationship with a single mother. My wife always put me first and foremost because I was the provider and protector. I was the king of my castle. How many women do you know will do that? You always hear women say I ain’t putting no man before my children. Most women have low paying jobs and need a man to help raise her children. Kevin Samuels made men aware that you don’t need to take on the responsibility of being a stepfather for children that ain’t yours. My wife is deceased and I miss her every single day. She and Cheng are one in a million. Women who know their place is beside her man and to let the man lead. Most modern women don’t fit the role of being a help mate. Being fit feminine friendly cooperative and submissive and who doesn’t bring drama and negativity energy into the relationship. Since my wife passed 4 years ago I have dated ten different women and I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with any of them. The one thing all men look for in a relationship is PEACE . Do you bring that into a relationship? Only you can answer that question if you’re honest with yourself. I have peace and plenty of it. I don’t need a woman who brings nothing into a relationship other than sex. She must be intelligent educated self sufficient have her own place and her own money and doesn’t need me to pay her bills because I have bills of my own. I’m not asking any woman to be like my wife but have a lot of her standards and to know her role is to be beside her man. If she can do most of what my wife did I could see myself being with a woman like that. When you had the best why settle for less just to say you have a woman in your life. If that’s all you want is to date then be my quest but the end result is to be in a lasting relationship and hopefully it will end in marriage. Take care
@JohnniePermint .....So sorry for your loss.....I'm fortunate to currently be in a long term relationship with the Father of my youngest child, so I'm not really a single Mom or dating anymore, but I did ok with Men when I was.
@@Mandy-Bee-k7k I’m so happy for you. That’s a blessing to have a good man and a good relationship today. I do really miss my wife because it’s so difficult meeting a good person man or woman in today time. God Bless you both and take care of each other.
I’d be a taker. My adopted mom married my dad with four children and she never labeled us as her step children. Mom always refer us as her children. I’d have to lay it forward if I was in that situation
Hey Cimba. I hear ya bruh! My father was pretty much always in my life, but my parents split when I was around 5 years old and my mom married my step dad, who turned out to be one of the greatest men I have ever met (RIP)! There is also a part of me that desires a situation where I can pay it forward too!
As you will hear on content creator in this space's channel, you will need to surf through a lot of bad ones before you get a good one. Just believe that as you move around. Dont ignore red flags and listen to your gut instincts. That being said, I believe we met on Filipino Cupid.
You can chat on different sites and find the same types of women. It simply depends on whether or not you can notice the red flags. If they sound too desperate to meet you... block... If they start off telling you their financial issues... block. If they dont have a job... block... Trust and believe that they are chatting with different men while chatting with you. So you chat with different ones and get a feel for things without getting addicted to the online sweetness they may show you. When you get here, whether its for a visit or if you are coming as an immigrant, avoid the club heads, the ones whose families drink a lot.. Basically, if you dont want a ghetto woman in the states, dont get a ghetto woman here. Certain areas that you can visit on certain islands will have more driven women... although most of them prefer to date their own men that work in the same fields as they do. Like the IT park on Cebu or the professional women in the BGC area of Manila on Luzon. Dont come here with the sole purpose of meeting a woman because it will leave you with your guards down. Come with the purpose of finding your peace, settling into a smooth and stress free retirement, finding a good woman is just a bonus....
Mr. Troy we met on Filipino Cupid, but I suggest that when you come here, first, be familiar or accustomed to in the way things get down here before finding a partner. As you do that, it will open more opportunities for you to meet Filipinas face to face.
... and I dont think anyone in this space is gonna shame you for it brother. We understand! It aint for everybody! Keep an open mind though. Just sayin...
I will try to keep this as brief as possible while hitting the most important points. Having dated single moms and 3 of the relationship were long term in the snakes aka United states or matix. If the question is for men in the USA, I'd strongly recommend men today to not date single moms. Now, outside of the matrix or cultures where women are traditional or masculinity is still respected, that most likely is my answer. Here are a few reasons or base on the answers why not to date single moms or at least vet prior to dating a single mom. 1-Is the child/children's father still alive and involved? 2-If the answer is yes but he is not involved at all or locked up, this plays a big role to deciding to date or not date. 3-If he the answer is yes to both questions to #1, it is highly not likely to date a single mom. 4-People fail to realize that real men or loving men develop a relationship with the woman's child. When the relationship ends and especially if she is an idiot or petty, that men no longer has access to that child. Men love and many times hurt more than women. Society things all we do is try to be macho and sex every women we see. BS. 5-Dating single mom with teenage daughters ie puberty and especially dad is involved and still wants to be with mom or daughter wants her parents back. Hell no!!! All she has to do to is say soso touched me, etc. Then he can catch a criminal case. 6-If you date a single mom especially if she has young kids ie under 8 or so, you run the house and they must follow your rule. Mom must support your decisions and not undermine them especially if the child is a boy. I'm now 52. The generation of my mom and grandparents revered a man who dated or married a man with kids. Today, you are either seen as a simp or an idiot. Taking care of another man's child/children and you are not appreciated or respected in most instances. So, why do it? Again, outside the matrix, this is much more likely. However, many men who have endured my past, just do not want it regardless where outside the matrix they go to especially in our 4th quarter of life. It is all about us ie me, myself, I and other men my age or experience or older. We not looking towards trying to deal with children. Maybe older teens.
Thanks for the insightful comment and I appreciate your advice. I think i would agree with you for the most part. Obviously i took a different path, but I vetted and vetted, ... and then I vetted some more before i made my choice.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol you’re welcome bro. This is a top that has affected me and I’ve experienced. The relationship prior to my lady was 5 years with a Nicaraguan. Btw, overall great and sweet people. She has a daughter that was almost 6. When the relationship ended, she was 11. We are very amicable and her daughter prefers me over her sorry dad. She’s like my 4th child (I have 3 adult kids). Despite my past experiences, I didn’t want to neglect the child. Yes. She’s not my responsibility legally, it’s a matter of ethics and morals. Plus, neglecting a child regardless of biological status or not can have a negative on them. I live by karma. Simply put it takes a village to raise a child. Again, the chances pros dating a single mom I think increases more outside the matrix big time. Vetting is all we can do if she has great qualities.
@@ypmm53 >>the chances pros dating a single mom I think increases more outside the matrix big time. Yep. You can't have it all. Every situation in this life has pros and cons. Heaven doesn't exist on earth. This is the hard reality of human life.... In other words, hen you travel outside of the US, you're still in the matrix, Just in a different palce...in the matrix.
Brother, I do not want a single mom or bar gir. Both are for recreational use only. I have side chicked both or put them on the roster. I would never ever marry one.
Me personally rather not date a single Mom because I want the ability to be able to get up, go anywhere including out of the country without having to the take kids or have someone to look after them while we’re gone.
Saying NO BENEFITS i think is too strong! I believe that there are some benefits for some men, but they are often overshadowed by the cons that a relationship with a single mom can have.
I agree... I mean for me, after I had my own kids, I said that I would only date single mothers. This was for 3 reasons... 1, I got a vasectomy after my 3rd child... 2, it would be pure hypocrisy to look down on a woman for having a child but expect her to look over the fact that I have children. And 3, its much more likely that a single mom isnt out here trying to have more kids... Whats funny is that some of these 50+ year old guys come look for these 20 something year old no children having women, just to get them pregnant and die before the kid even grows up. Half of the dudes saying they dont want single moms, were raised by single moms....
With me and many other men the reason why a single mom is not preferred is not the woman. It's the child. Hard for the stepdad to discipline like his own child. Also the biological father can complicate matters too. Conflict of interest can exist
@JohnniePermint thanks. I dated a single mom in the west and that was a lesson learned for me. NEVER a single mother again. I rather date an old lady than a single mom. Too much baggage for peace to exist
Dating a single mother would not be my first choice but I would also not pass on a woman who I thought was exemplary and surpassed my expectation in everything just because she had a child. My hesitancy has nothing to do with money, but rather my concern of the limitations associated with having another person in the relationship.
Absolutely legit! I totally understand your reasoning. I would think that most men would get it that too. Most men arent out here looking for single moms. It definitely isnt the optimal choice to start a relationship. Nor is having a gf with a 20+ year age gap either. Man, im telling you, these days, no matter who you choose, youd better vet carefully and make sure that she is the right one for you and your situation or she can cause you some serious problems.
You are correct, you may not be able to do a ton of things with her since she has a child, but if she really wants to spend time and do things with you, she'll find a way. 😊
Great topic. There is a difference between dating and marrying a baby momma or single mom. A lot of guys will sleep with or go on a couple of dates with a woman that has a child but marrying her is a different story. Most men are not marrying single mothers no matter what country they are in. I agree there are a lot of single mothers roaming around these counties which is one of the reasons why most of them are still single. A man would be less likely to date or marry a single mother the more money he earns or climbs the economic ladder. Even though I have dated a baby momma once before, I wouldn't do it again. It wasn't a terrible relationship but the ROI didn't match the investment she wanted me to make into the relationship. Most women don't understand men don't want a woman who has a lot of experiences in life because that means she has gone through a lot of bad things or trauma. Besides, there is nothing a woman can learn from being with other men that will make her a better wife for the man she wants to marry.
Andrew, youre like a brother from another mother. Our minds are synched! If you date a baby mama, there will likely be drama! I made my choice based on what Cheng brought to the table that matched my own expectations. She is pretty damned cool! Keep comin with it, Andrew! Love your comments, bro.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol And another thing is if you do date a single mom is. The fact that if you get close to her child and get to love it like it's your own. If things don't work out with the mom. She won't let you see the kids and that hurts you and the kids.
I will be turning 54 this year and have a 7 year rule that I will not cross. If she is 7+ years younger than me then I won't even consider the relationship. My preference is to find someone my age or no less than 3 years younger. In this way we could both grow old together. Also, a woman my age would have adult kids. She would be retired or close to it and would be free to travel. If she's around my age and doesn't have kids (🚩) then I'm looking to see if she has an Adam's apple 🧐🤔🤨 In this day and age of transformers you have to watch what you grab 👀
Hey Xsx, I get ya and I totally agree. Im super wary if I meet a 35+ year old woman who has no kids and never been married. Def yellow, if not red flag for her.
Guys!!!! Always remember, "we" have the advantage, the upper hand. While you are dating her, take your time and vet her. Spend a couple hundred(or even a thousand) dollars and do a deep background check if you like her so much! Never forget... MEN ARE THE PRIZE!!!
Men control the relationship. Women on the other hand, should make herself to be the best option to any man especially if she's a single mom because of her competition which is single, young, women. You are right, Vernon. Doing a background check won't hurt if you're talking about the future.
Agreed, almost no one out there is looking for that kinda situation. You have to find the situation that works for you. But see how it works if you find a woman with no job at all! Not so good either!
I like to add, men that do date single moms almost always don’t marry these single mothers, it is very rare that men want to be stepdads! Those kids of another man are a liability to a stepfather! I think most men aren’t being honest about dating a single mom, the one’s that say they won’t date a single mother have dated a single mom and will again! That’s not me though! Marriage is mostly out of the question but there are exceptions I’m sure!
The fact is, men dont WANT to date single moms, but in thia era, it's very often either date a single mom, date a literal garden tool, or remain single forever. The single moms are still not an option anyone WANTS, it's just something that a lot of guys HAVE to settle for. So we are being completely honest when we say we dont want to daye single moms, we genuinely dont want to. And it almost always is a bad option, but a bad option ends up being the best option, when its the only option.
Ahhhhhhh, someone is getting it! We can be mad at facts, but they are still facts and most women over 30 have kids; especially here in the Phils, but even at home a very large proportion of women at that age, already have kids.
Love this topic, guys. And Rich coming in "keeping it Real" with his opinions on dating a single mother...Is that U Cheng?..LOL Oh Rich dont forget the OTHER category of women..Thats even WORSE than the single mother.. The single filipina woman btw 30-36 who dont have kids at all, and say "oh, I dont want any children"..Then she meets a 65 yo man either online or at the mall.. So, the 65 yo man says alright !!!..I'm gonna date this 32 yr old filipina who has told me emphatically ", I dont want kids",..But lets remember guys :She ONLY says this statement just to snag you in her net.. Then after just 3 months of dating, she says "oh honey, I want a mixed baby, so lets get married, next month and I'll get pregnant".. say WHAT??..whats the hurry?.. And the filipina says her biological clock is ticking and she wants to get pregnant in the next couple months. But I thought you said you dont want kids?..I dont want kids, I'm an old man... "oh I changed my mind honey, I realized im getting older now--besides your not old, ur still under 80!!!" And if you dont agree. heres what you hear EVEREYDAY, if you stay with this filipina. Filipina: "honey, when are we going to have a baby?" Honey, if you loved me you would make me pregnant Honey we have known each other for six months, be a man and put a baby inside me. Honey are you gay?. You havent touched me in 5 days, lets goto the bedroom to see if your still man enough to make me pregnant.. Honey ,If you dont make me pregnant in a month, I'm leaving you.(she never does, tho) True story coming up: This american guy met his filipina ONLINE..they had known each other online for just 5 months online.She was 34yo. He goes to visit her in the phillipines for the FIRST time and after just 1week of being there. They do the deed. Then the next day She unloads this truth bomb" I want to get pregnant, in the next 24 hours !!!!.. Are you man enough to do this for me?"....He said WHAT? No, this is not what we talked about Online!!! Within 24 hours he was up and outta there..bags packed up and gone to another city in the phillipines. Didnt tell her which city, or she might follow him..
Damn Joel! Im amazed... amazed that it took him 24 hours to bounce! I would have left immediately and been on the first thing smokin, boss! That woman would have caused him nothing but trouble! But I know for a fact that there is a group of women here exactly like that. They have no prospects for marriage due to their age and their only source of security in their minds is having a child ... YESTERDAY!
Alot of weird stuff going on out there guys. IF ur a foreigner and the filipina that is "ready for a baby", meets you- Lookout. Because you KNOW VERY well they dont like to use protection.And they are very convincing on having fun "back at your hotel/AirB&B).. Its like "why is she is easy?" So surprise, when she says 9 months later on your facebook-- your a DADDY and SHE is trying to hunt you down looking for financial support .(if your still in the phillipines area), hint hint.. better move.
Wow Dale! Kudos to you, brother! I dont think many men would have taken that much responsibility on, including myself! But youre not on here bitching and whining about your situation, so it cant be that bad! God bless and thanks for sharing!
not against single mom, but the downside was your never the priority. they will take care 1st their children than you. and the guilt of raising a child thats not yours. these red flags often cause problems that you will have your woman without a child and you have your own family. i would date a single mom if shes a widow. its streassful that a single mom that baby daddies are around and you end up being the beta male took responsibilities while your woman spend time with her baby daddies. godbless sir riche and i agree with you. more cons than pros. dating these kinds of woman will give you stress than peace in a relationship.
JJA, you are totally on point with this take, brother. Youd better be willing to take a back seat to her children if you get into a situation with a single mom.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol yes brother been to in a relationship with a single mom back then when im still simpy person. its more cons than pros. godbless to you and miss cheng brother.
I agree with you Jane. Cheng has proven herself to be very responsible. She never asked me for money and she was more than capable of taking care of herself and her fam when we met. Im happy to add to what she has already started building.
Im with you there, TC. The situation needs to be ideal for each man. Dont just vet her, but also vet her situation too! SHE SHOULD HAVE A REAL JOB and be able to take care of her and hers without you!
First of, some of us were raised by single moms. Second, most of us who go to the Philippines arent the best of the best anyhow. Third, scarcity mindset , one guy on YT said that if you eliminate single moms, options are reduced. I for one did date a few single moms and decided to NOT have one for a long term relationship. To each their own though
Throughout the video, I say that I definitely understand the men who choose not to date single moms. I GET IT! However to address your first comment, I get that many people were raised by single moms, but would you consider that to be the optimal environment for a child to be raised in, as opposed to being raised with a father to teach you a lot of things that your mom will never be able to teach or show you or who instills pride and confidence in you with the praise that you get from him AND her? Just my thoughts...
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol I get your point. It is like saying 'I like living poor because I grew up poor'. And yes I agree a normal nuclear family is the ideal environment for kids. I was just cutting some slack to some of our brother, I actually grew up in a normal 2 parents household, with a patriarchal father, which is why it would be a little hard for me to be raising another man's kid.... but I guess for those not lucky enough to have that, they might feel it to be ironic to shy away from single mother.Same sentiment some divorcees have, like " i too have kids" etc.
I wouldn't date a single mom if her kids are under 18 years old. At 18, they are adults and I don't consider them as "kids". At my age (65), I'm well past any desire to raise young kids. I'm retired now and my goals are about traveling & relaxing during my retirement & earning some side income from my investment hobby to supplement my retirement.
Hey Nappy, im with you on this, but here in the Phils, even young adults will often live with their moms for a long time; even up to marriage. This leads to a lot of them turning out to be mamas boys and being rejected by a lot of women. My point is, even when they are over 18, it still isnt a guarantee that they will be gone and out of the house.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol My thinking on this is different. If my GF & her 18+ "kid" were living together in her place before I showed up in my GFs life, then her 18+ "kid" can stay there while the mother stays with me on most days or my GF can alternate between staying at my place and her place.
Not this guy. I have three sisters. Two ended up being single moms, between them, my Aunt and others, no way no how. If I want to be last in the line of importance, I will stay single and neglect myself, lol. I have no interest in another man's DNA. Sorry they picked the wrong one, but I am not coming behind to sweep up the mess.
There are good single Moms and Bad ones. There are good single childless women and bad. There are bad people and good people, All these vloggers are just Blah Blah Blah for entertainment purpose only and they make their money that way, Best to take your time and know the person you are with. That Simple. And yes sometimes mistakes will be made. Live Your own life.
He kills the young ones straightaway! I love animal planet and I hear ya. Every situation is different though. How would you consider a situation where the father passed away and she is a good mom, but a widow? Is that the same?
To each his own. The numbers don't lie, as the title says. Someone IS wifing up these single moms and from the most vocal comments on this thread saying they would never date or marry one, will be the main ones doing it. They doth protest too much. My Filipina GF is a single mom. I didn't have to choose her, but she had a great personality that stood out. Whatever a man chooses to do with his resources and time is his business no matter what we think of them or call them. I think a lot of these guys are just parroting what their favorite UA-camr is saying and they don't want to stand out or feel embarrased. Women do that to us enough, we don't need to shame each other. All men want affection, respect, a full stomach, and empty loins. Even if she has a child(2 would be my limit) I don't see myself passing that up.
Mad respect to you KD! Im gonna pin this comment since this is how i think we should all get down!
Well said, Kevin. Well said 👏👏
@@kevindavis3598 Richie you are absolutely right about men wifing up single mothers in the Philippines. Not in the states . Two different minds sets. The single mothers in the Philippines are taught at an early age to respect men and know their place is beside her man and to be a help mate. In the states these women feel entitled to think that they’re the prize. I heard it to many times that a woman especially a black woman say I ain’t putting no man before my children. When I was a young lad I can just off the top of my head think about men who got with single mothers and help raise them. The woman had several children and the men still excepted the mother and her children. The children grew up and when the man got older they looked out for him because they loved and respected him as a man as a father and someone who loved them as though they were his own children. Richie two different eras. Men are not respected especially black men. Women are looking for some simp to raise her brood and he can’t discipline the children. They disrespect the man and the woman upholds them in their behavior. Furthermore he can’t even get a child from this woman. You’ve seen videos from KS and the women coming on his platform saying the most obvious things about their children. Black men are not excepting that kind of disrespect anymore. We as black people have the highest numbers of unwed mothers. The highest number of single women because no man wants to deal with the negative attitude masculine energy not being fit friendly cooperative feminine submission. Fake hair wigs weaves nails eyelashes children by multiple men. When I was in the Philippines I didn’t see no wigs multi colored hair long fingernails. Women walking around half naked. May I add I didn’t hear a single cuss word. Richie I’m a cusser but since coming from the Philippines I have cut the cussing pretty much out of my vocabulary. Men will sleep with black women but that ain’t marrying them at all. Every day on tv you see high profile black men marrying outside of their race. Black athletes marrying white and other nationalities other than black women. As an older black man I don’t even want to deal with a black woman any longer . I would rather be by myself than deal with a black woman. Richie your site is different you have a great partner and her two sons love and respect you. Let’s me make myself clear in my experiences I wouldn’t date a single mother in the states but since coming to the Philippines and Thailand I might have to change my opinion on single mothers. I married my wife didn’t I? Who knows what the future will hold for me but thanks to you and Cheng I have decided to just travel and meet new people and make new friends. I made two great friends with you and Cheng and that’s just the beginning. Anyway I look forward to seeing you in March and Cheng in the future. Take care you two until we meet again. Uncle Johnnie
Ps Richie ur right about one thing dating single mothers is one thing marrying them is another. What I have read in the comment section is more are against dating a single woman than dating a single mother. Dating a single mother for sex is one thing but a long term relationship and marriage is another issue. As the old saying goes why marry the cow when you can have the milk for free?
Preach, Johnnie! Preach brother!
The reality is that after you reach a certain age, most of the available women are single moms. They're not ALL bad , but vet carefully brothers, or you'll be out of pocket in no time!
For sure.
Rich and Cheng, another great video! My gf is a single mom. I'm in my mid-50s and while my preference would have been to date a woman without kids, I also don't want to date someone in their early to mid-20s either. So that leaves limited options. The key is to vet carefully. If the woman starts hitting you up for $$$ for her kid(s) expenses early in the dating process, WALK AWAY!
That is the right thing to do. Walk away and don't look back. Thank you, Byl 😊
I completely agree with you except for one thing... RUN AWAY! LOL
No don’t walk away run away as fast as you can 😂
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6olRichie I’ve been reading a lot of the comments to me it seems like more men are against dating single mothers. You know I told you about my experience with single mothers. I married one who I loved to death and I still love her. The reality was dealing with her sons. They cause me so much anxiety aggravation headaches heartaches pain and suffering depression. You name it I claim it. Yes love won out but look at the toll it did on me? I have not completely forgotten what it was like for me to have to deal with her sons. I would suggest to any man no matter how good the woman is if her children are ill mannered disrespectful behavior problems don’t even get involved. No man needs to go through what I went through for the love of a woman and her brood. When you get to a certain point in your life you don’t want drama you just want peace. With most single mothers you definitely won’t have peace. Been there done that. Peace peace and more peace. I LOVE it. C u soon 😊
See you on the flip side, Johnnie. We're waiting for you to come back!
I’ve been married to a woman with kids, I’ve been in a long term relationship with a woman who had kids and I also had kids so not that big of a deal. I think when you are older the odds are good she’s going to have a children.
The difference between then and now though is in retirement I want the freedom to travel anytime I want, for as long as I want and that’s next to impossible with kids. So that’s why it’s kind of a deal breaker for me at this stage in life. Luckily I found someone who is getting towards the end of child bearing years without any kids.
Btw, another good video on a pretty important topic. Thank you!
Glad you liked it, Dim.
Thanks Huff, I like to keep an open mind on this topic and never say never, but i definitely understand the ramifications of dating a single mom and most men wont do it without getting over some major hurdles. Each man has to decide for himself whether he thinks it is worth his own time, effort, and money.
Sup Richie & Cheng? Excellent video, you hit on all the key points of dating a single mom. If I had to add one more point, it would be that you as the man isn’t going to be the her main focus in that relationship. Cheng if I could I’d give you both of my thumbs up!
Appreciate you giving me your two thumbs 😂
As always, you are AWESOME Slick Rick!
@ Welcome ka Cheng! It was fun seeing you both on the live chat.
Hi Rich. Good video and very important topic. I got married to a filipina in her early 30s with no kids. It was my preference. I don't say I wouldn't have dated a single mom, but her situation has to be compatible with what I was looking for. I also want to say that not all single moms are the same. A widow is not the same as a woman who dated too many guys and finds herself pregnant by an irresponsible guy who disappears. Every woman is different, every situation is different. The most important is to be with the right person. I talked to a few single moms when I was on the dating site. Many were lovely and beautiful women. But I chose my wife because she checked all the boxes of my requirements.
Hey realdeal, you are preaching to the choir bro. That is exactly why I chose Cheng. She checked almost all the boxes for me. As you said, her situation was different in that she was a widow and not just some baby mama. Vet her and her situation too!
Every woman and situation is different. Choose the one that ticks most of the boxes. After all, it is your choice to choose the woman whom you want to spend the rest of your life with.
Thank you for choosing me and the boys, Rich ❤. You know the rest.
Good luck, I experienced this. My single Mom that I married was a liar about her age, her education goals and when she was going to bring her two kids from East Malaysia. Marrying this woman was the biggest mistake of my life. I stayed with her to raise her kids and she abandoned me travel around the world when I had cancer. I was 43 when I married her. She was 47 but lied and claimed to be forty though she did look older. I had never dated a Chinese woman before. She asked me to marry her within six months of meeting her so she could stay in the United States. She did not have a skill, she was working illegally as a cashier at a Chinese restaurant. I was set up by a Taiwanese lady whose restaurant was close to where I lived. She promised to go to college but after we were married she refused to go. She lied about everything. She was from Sabah, Malaysia.
Wow John, you semi eluded to this earlier, but I didnt get the whole story from you until now. Yeah that one is tough and I definitely feel for you. We live and learn, dont we? Im curious ... in hindsight, were there signs that you just chose to ignore at that time and later you looked back and said " I should've listened to my gut instincts!"?
Sorry to hear what happened to you John. Thanks for sharing your comment
Very interesting topic. I previously stated that I would not date a single mom, but the reality is there are a lot of single moms and as you stated guys really need to vet the single mom. Specifically, one should consider how many kids does the single mom have; single or multiple baby daddys; and the relationship between the single mom and the baby daddy. No one wants to endure multiple men coming to their door every weekend to pick up children or a baby daddy that's always around. If the mom is not working.... serious red flag because the expectation will be there spoken or not for you to provide financial support for the children and her.
Yeah these ones that you mentioned are some real serious red flags for sure. I wouldnt date the woman in any of those situations, Torocane!
The thing about falling for a young Filipina without children when an expat is pushing 60, is she willing to stick around? I think most Filipinas are hardwired to want to have children. So who knows really knows if they will stick around into your older age? Especially when you have some if health problems chill up and You haven't given her children. This is something that could probably be argued about a single mother being more loyal. I'm guessing that there are a lot of single Filipina mothers that want an older guy with experience as a father and husband to lead the family. That woman would probably not leave her husband. I have thought about this in the past. All of us expats here are going to get old. Growing old alone is not an easy thing. In summary, it could be a good win for a single Filipina mother and an older expat as long as the details are agreed upon and worked out. I can't believe I said this 😆😆😆
It is a good point to ponder on Joey!
I think your comment is on point here, Joseph. I believe you said it. That came from the heart with some experience behind it!
This is a great comment, and I have had similar thoughts in a lot of ways. But the main thing for me is that most, if not all filipinas want to have at least one child. It doesn't matter if she tells you now that she is fine with not having one. She WILL want one in the future. I don't have any kids, and don't really want to have any. So its probably better for me to eventually get with a single mother. But she can't have more than one kid, and the father can be nowhere in the picture, in ANY capacity. In some ways it might work out better if it's not my kid because I'm not overly obligated to do some of the things like pay for college and buying cars, etc. 😂. Food on the table, roof over your head, and clothes on your back. If the kid wants extra things like college, etc., better be a really great kid that doesn't disrespect me in any way, or causes me any grief.
This is a very interesting perspective Pernel. I came here thinking the same as you, but i quickly figured out that there was a reason that those ladies were single with no kids. In any case, youre gonna need to vet carefully and choose the woman who has her own job, can take care of herself and where you can easily fit in without too many issues.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol Always vetting Sir. But I'm really trying to stay single anyway. If a guy comes here and lives, while avoiding getting permanently locked down his first few months. It becomes less likely that he will want to get locked down because so many dating options here in the Philippines. Unless of course ,the foreigner is one of those men who wasn't really successfully dating in his home country. He might feel like he has no choice but to keep whomever he was able to meet online before he came here. And that's fine if he's really content with her. But for most men I think when they see all of these women here, (WATSON'S ANYONE???)you will most certainly want to trade up. 😂
Thank you for being honest Richie
In life, we are all trying to win. The Phils is a great place to be, but you had better come here with the right mindset for sure. Nobody wants to take that L if they dont have to.
Great clip and discussion!!
I enjoy watching the 2 of you. Great interaction
Glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully we will see you again after the next one!
I like to travel and stay at different destinations for a while. A single mom wouldn't be able to do that.
True
In my own experience, I know this to be true. So I cant argue with your logic!
Well the most important thing You should not even be thinking about dating, rather male or female until you have yourself together and your life together. You should not need another person in your life. You might want to share your life with somebody that could be part of the plan, but you need to be complete within yourself and have your life and direction in order and be on your path and then if you meet somebody and she must have join you on your path. Okay, consider it if you have to make substantial adjustments to the direction you're going in. Probably it's not going to work. Always going to be adjustments, but they should not be big life-changing adjustments. She needs to join you on your path in life and you need to take her thoughts and feelings into consideration when you make your decisions
I agree, you need to be solid with yourself before you jump into anything. Otherwise, its a recipe for disaster. Thank, as always brother.
I love your Topic Today Hello Mega shoutout Sir Rich & Cheng Honestly No body is the right to Judge a Single Mom They have there Own Story no body knows what really Happens to them what They been through. Me my story I got Pregnant when i was 17 you fall in love , you fail and You Learned that’s the Important ,then i work I raise my kid i work in Korea then I met my husband. When I met my husband I told him right away that I had Kid . I told him I don’t play around if you can’t accept my kid. We’re done we’re like a package deal . I cannot abandon my child just for guy period 😅 Then finally here we become lovers for 4 years before we got Married. Now we’re 15 years Married and 19 years together. We Have 13 years age gap don’t judge me I love it like that it’s mature and loving husband responsible. I love everything about him.
Renze, youre tugging at my heart over here. Great story and thanks for sharing. Really enjoy reading your recent comments. Keep doing what youre doing.
There are quality women everywhere. Some men will have to churn through the bad ones to get to the good ones!
You found love, Renze. I am genuinely happy for you. 🎉😊
Btw, thanks for the MEGA Shoutout 😊
@@bachengcheng876Yes Cheng I feel I found the right one and Thank God 🙏🏼 If is meant to be it will be 🥰
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol yes its true Sir . Like I always say Its Ok to be Fall in Love but you have to be smarter too . And Pray to God that give the right person for you . But I Already think Cheng is the right person for you because she always makes you smile 🥰
She absolutely does make me smile Renze! Thank you for watching and adding your comments. We are both really enjoying reading what you have to say. Love having a womans perspective; even if it is a little different sometimes. It gives us something to think about.
Huge difference between dating and marrying. Let’s talk about it.
Hey VCG, that could be a good topic for a future video.
I recommend a man be alone before dating a singe mom anywhere,a single mom have many unwanted responsibilities and many problems
No doubt about it.
@@One4nuke Amen ! I couldn’t agree more with what you just said
Rich i love your show, keep it touch
Thanks for watching Brian. Much appreciated!
There are many 32 - 40+ single women with no kids out there too. Most (that I know) are college grads or church ladies.
I also know a lot of women in their mid-30s or 40+ who are single. The question you want to ask though is how long have they been single and why are they still single.
It sounds like you are in a pretty decent circle of women there, Solar! Maybe more men should go to where you are.
@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol ......... with the demographic of women (in the Philippines) that I have mentioned:
(1) They are 🚫 not sharing their bodies until married. In many cases.
(2) Many (not all) are less experienced with dealing with men or relationships in general.
(3) Many (not all) are more westernized.
(4) U will have to "date" her family as well as her.
U better mean BUSINESS if she goes out with you.
Those are the kids of women that a lot of men want... but they qualify for that kind of quality woman?
Great video with real talk.
Glad you liked it, Paul.
Glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate ya. We try to keep it real and give you facts and our perspective based on those facts. Then you choose your own course of action.
Would you recommend AFN dating dinners in Cebu
Peter, I actually WOULD! Not saying that you'll be 100% successful, but many of those women put a lot of effort into going to those and they know that they are competing with a lot of other women; yet they are putting their best foot forward.
I would say that those kinds of events offer women who are employed and more mature than the avg woman on a dating website. The fact that youre meeting her F2F initally is a plus too! You still have to ask a lot of questions though and vet carefully. You need to know about her, her family, and her living situation too. Possibly her past relationships if there are children in the picture. But i think those are a good way to meet a decent Filipina. Just my 2 cents.
I believe that remaining single is the best life for a man. I will never be needy enough to raise another man’s kids. I was raised by a stepfather. He did not get my love and respect until I became a man and understood what he had done for me. I would not do it.
Wow! Thats a great take and theres a lot of truth to that. There are far more cons than pros!
Hello Rich and Cheng, very good topic today. When I became a widower when I turned 47 I had two daughters in college one in UCLA that other in UCSB. The only women that started blowing up my phone and dropping food by the house. You guessed it Single Moms. In Cali that's all it was!!!
Rodmo, im from the Bay so I know what it is there too brother! Sorry for your loss and i hope youre living your best life now and moving forward.
The way through a man's heart is through his stomach. Rich might have figured it out by this time, why I feed him so much lol.
I'm sorry for your loss, Rodmo.
Remind them to make sure that the single mom is not married. Dating a married woman in the Philippines can get you arrested for adultery if the husband who has left over 5 years ago or longer can call the cops on you.
I was a single Mom after my 1st child and really didn't have trouble dating.
Many single moms have no trouble dating at all. I guess it depends a lot on her demeanor and what she also brings to the table.
@@Mandy-Bee-k7k there’s the problem. Dating a single mother is alright if thats all you want. You want a relationship that hopefully ends in marriage. Most men will date a single mother for sex and that’s it. I married a single mother who had children. Two were grown and youngest was 8. Dating a single mother comes with a lot of challenges that I would advise any man to think long and hard before getting into a relationship with a single mother. My wife always put me first and foremost because I was the provider and protector. I was the king of my castle. How many women do you know will do that? You always hear women say I ain’t putting no man before my children. Most women have low paying jobs and need a man to help raise her children. Kevin Samuels made men aware that you don’t need to take on the responsibility of being a stepfather for children that ain’t yours. My wife is deceased and I miss her every single day. She and Cheng are one in a million. Women who know their place is beside her man and to let the man lead. Most modern women don’t fit the role of being a help mate. Being fit feminine friendly cooperative and submissive and who doesn’t bring drama and negativity energy into the relationship. Since my wife passed 4 years ago I have dated ten different women and I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with any of them. The one thing all men look for in a relationship is PEACE . Do you bring that into a relationship? Only you can answer that question if you’re honest with yourself. I have peace and plenty of it. I don’t need a woman who brings nothing into a relationship other than sex. She must be intelligent educated self sufficient have her own place and her own money and doesn’t need me to pay her bills because I have bills of my own. I’m not asking any woman to be like my wife but have a lot of her standards and to know her role is to be beside her man. If she can do most of what my wife did I could see myself being with a woman like that. When you had the best why settle for less just to say you have a woman in your life. If that’s all you want is to date then be my quest but the end result is to be in a lasting relationship and hopefully it will end in marriage. Take care
@@Mandy-Bee-k7k ps my wife wasn’t perfect but we were perfect for each other. Take care
@JohnniePermint .....So sorry for your loss.....I'm fortunate to currently be in a long term relationship with the Father of my youngest child, so I'm not really a single Mom or dating anymore, but I did ok with Men when I was.
@@Mandy-Bee-k7k I’m so happy for you. That’s a blessing to have a good man and a good relationship today. I do really miss my wife because it’s so difficult meeting a good person man or woman in today time. God Bless you both and take care of each other.
Fact! Way more cons than pros. At least 30-40 plus years ago men were revered and respected for stepping up.
I just got up and left.
ABSOLUTELY and UNEQUIVOCALLY
NO SINGLE MOM!!!
No debate necessary!
It's the other guy's problem NOT yours!
NEXT!
I aint mad at ya, Pastor! I hear ya , brother!
I’d be a taker. My adopted mom married my dad with four children and she never labeled us as her step children. Mom always refer us as her children. I’d have to lay it forward if I was in that situation
Hey Cimba. I hear ya bruh! My father was pretty much always in my life, but my parents split when I was around 5 years old and my mom married my step dad, who turned out to be one of the greatest men I have ever met (RIP)! There is also a part of me that desires a situation where I can pay it forward too!
Having someone calling my sons, "his sons" makes me the luckiest woman on earth.
@@bachengcheng876that’s a blessing for sure
I am blessed indeed. ❤
So what app did you 2 meet on? I'm a black man coming to the philippines soon and I'll be interested In meeting of philippina.
As you will hear on content creator in this space's channel, you will need to surf through a lot of bad ones before you get a good one. Just believe that as you move around. Dont ignore red flags and listen to your gut instincts. That being said, I believe we met on Filipino Cupid.
You can chat on different sites and find the same types of women. It simply depends on whether or not you can notice the red flags. If they sound too desperate to meet you... block... If they start off telling you their financial issues... block. If they dont have a job... block... Trust and believe that they are chatting with different men while chatting with you. So you chat with different ones and get a feel for things without getting addicted to the online sweetness they may show you. When you get here, whether its for a visit or if you are coming as an immigrant, avoid the club heads, the ones whose families drink a lot.. Basically, if you dont want a ghetto woman in the states, dont get a ghetto woman here. Certain areas that you can visit on certain islands will have more driven women... although most of them prefer to date their own men that work in the same fields as they do. Like the IT park on Cebu or the professional women in the BGC area of Manila on Luzon. Dont come here with the sole purpose of meeting a woman because it will leave you with your guards down. Come with the purpose of finding your peace, settling into a smooth and stress free retirement, finding a good woman is just a bonus....
Wow, what you wrote here are some good advice for sure, Loveyourlife. Thanks for chiming in
Mr. Troy we met on Filipino Cupid, but I suggest that when you come here, first, be familiar or accustomed to in the way things get down here before finding a partner. As you do that, it will open more opportunities for you to meet Filipinas face to face.
My brother! I love this kinda advice. We gotta get together and chop it up in the near future. I would love to have you on the channel.
I not daing or marrying a single mother
I hear ya, Michael.
... and I dont think anyone in this space is gonna shame you for it brother. We understand! It aint for everybody! Keep an open mind though. Just sayin...
When dating a single mom,her child is her number m#1,you will never be her number#1,but the single mom will demand to be your number#1
Yeah, if you dont choose right, you could easily end up in a bad situation.
@@One4nuke Ain't that the truth!😊
@@One4nuke or you one her mom meddles in your relationship!😡
I will try to keep this as brief as possible while hitting the most important points.
Having dated single moms and 3 of the relationship were long term in the snakes aka United states or matix. If the question is for men in the USA, I'd strongly recommend men today to not date single moms. Now, outside of the matrix or cultures where women are traditional or masculinity is still respected, that most likely is my answer.
Here are a few reasons or base on the answers why not to date single moms or at least vet prior to dating a single mom.
1-Is the child/children's father still alive and involved?
2-If the answer is yes but he is not involved at all or locked up, this plays a big role to deciding to date or not date.
3-If he the answer is yes to both questions to #1, it is highly not likely to date a single mom.
4-People fail to realize that real men or loving men develop a relationship with the woman's child. When the relationship ends and especially if she is an idiot or petty, that men no longer has access to that child. Men love and many times hurt more than women. Society things all we do is try to be macho and sex every women we see. BS.
5-Dating single mom with teenage daughters ie puberty and especially dad is involved and still wants to be with mom or daughter wants her parents back. Hell no!!! All she has to do to is say soso touched me, etc. Then he can catch a criminal case.
6-If you date a single mom especially if she has young kids ie under 8 or so, you run the house and they must follow your rule. Mom must support your decisions and not undermine them especially if the child is a boy.
I'm now 52. The generation of my mom and grandparents revered a man who dated or married a man with kids. Today, you are either seen as a simp or an idiot. Taking care of another man's child/children and you are not appreciated or respected in most instances. So, why do it? Again, outside the matrix, this is much more likely. However, many men who have endured my past, just do not want it regardless where outside the matrix they go to especially in our 4th quarter of life. It is all about us ie me, myself, I and other men my age or experience or older. We not looking towards trying to deal with children. Maybe older teens.
Thanks for the insightful comment and I appreciate your advice. I think i would agree with you for the most part. Obviously i took a different path, but I vetted and vetted, ... and then I vetted some more before i made my choice.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol you’re welcome bro. This is a top that has affected me and I’ve experienced. The relationship prior to my lady was 5 years with a Nicaraguan. Btw, overall great and sweet people. She has a daughter that was almost 6. When the relationship ended, she was 11. We are very amicable and her daughter prefers me over her sorry dad. She’s like my 4th child (I have 3 adult kids). Despite my past experiences, I didn’t want to neglect the child. Yes. She’s not my responsibility legally, it’s a matter of ethics and morals. Plus, neglecting a child regardless of biological status or not can have a negative on them. I live by karma. Simply put it takes a village to raise a child.
Again, the chances pros dating a single mom I think increases more outside the matrix big time. Vetting is all we can do if she has great qualities.
@@ypmm53
>>the chances pros dating a single mom I think increases more outside the matrix big time.
Yep. You can't have it all. Every situation in this life has pros and cons.
Heaven doesn't exist on earth. This is the hard reality of human life....
In other words, hen you travel outside of the US, you're still in the matrix, Just in a different palce...in the matrix.
Brother,
I do not want a single mom or bar gir.
Both are for recreational use only.
I have side chicked both or put them on the roster.
I would never ever marry one.
I hear ya Jason. Especially here in the Phils, many are for rec use only!
Me personally rather not date a single Mom because I want the ability to be able to get up, go anywhere including out of the country without having to the take kids or have someone to look after them while we’re gone.
I aint mad at cha for that either, Veteran! I can understand any man not wanting to date a single mom! Most of the time, youre gonna take an L.
Their is no benefit to dating a single mom
Saying NO BENEFITS i think is too strong! I believe that there are some benefits for some men, but they are often overshadowed by the cons that a relationship with a single mom can have.
I agree... I mean for me, after I had my own kids, I said that I would only date single mothers. This was for 3 reasons... 1, I got a vasectomy after my 3rd child... 2, it would be pure hypocrisy to look down on a woman for having a child but expect her to look over the fact that I have children. And 3, its much more likely that a single mom isnt out here trying to have more kids... Whats funny is that some of these 50+ year old guys come look for these 20 something year old no children having women, just to get them pregnant and die before the kid even grows up. Half of the dudes saying they dont want single moms, were raised by single moms....
Hey LYL, I get
all 3 of these; especially your sound off about the 50+ year olds coming here to bag a 20 year old and get them pregnant.
With me and many other men the reason why a single mom is not preferred is not the woman. It's the child. Hard for the stepdad to discipline like his own child. Also the biological father can complicate matters too. Conflict of interest can exist
No question about it, Ego! There are way more cons than pros for most men when it comes to dating single moms.
@@Ego-Kills Amen I agree with you 1000%
@JohnniePermint thanks. I dated a single mom in the west and that was a lesson learned for me. NEVER a single mother again. I rather date an old lady than a single mom. Too much baggage for peace to exist
@@Ego-Kills Double and triple Amen
Dating a single mother would not be my first choice but I would also not pass on a woman who I thought was exemplary and surpassed my expectation in everything just because she had a child.
My hesitancy has nothing to do with money, but rather my concern of the limitations associated with having another person in the relationship.
Absolutely legit! I totally understand your reasoning. I would think that most men would get it that too. Most men arent out here looking for single moms. It definitely isnt the optimal choice to start a relationship. Nor is having a gf with a 20+ year age gap either.
Man, im telling you, these days, no matter who you choose, youd better vet carefully and make sure that she is the right one for you and your situation or she can cause you some serious problems.
You are correct, you may not be able to do a ton of things with her since she has a child, but if she really wants to spend time and do things with you, she'll find a way. 😊
Great topic. There is a difference between dating and marrying a baby momma or single mom. A lot of guys will sleep with or go on a couple of dates with a woman that has a child but marrying her is a different story. Most men are not marrying single mothers no matter what country they are in. I agree there are a lot of single mothers roaming around these counties which is one of the reasons why most of them are still single. A man would be less likely to date or marry a single mother the more money he earns or climbs the economic ladder. Even though I have dated a baby momma once before, I wouldn't do it again. It wasn't a terrible relationship but the ROI didn't match the investment she wanted me to make into the relationship. Most women don't understand men don't want a woman who has a lot of experiences in life because that means she has gone through a lot of bad things or trauma. Besides, there is nothing a woman can learn from being with other men that will make her a better wife for the man she wants to marry.
Andrew, youre like a brother from another mother. Our minds are synched! If you date a baby mama, there will likely be drama! I made my choice based on what Cheng brought to the table that matched my own expectations. She is pretty damned cool! Keep comin with it, Andrew! Love your comments, bro.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol Yes, you can find a few gems in the females with children dating market but not many of them. 😃😃
They are not easy to find at all.
I'm 66 years old now I'm to old to help someone raise their children
i hear ya. I wouldnt want to do it again post 50 years old.
@@hermanedwards1981 I agree with you I’m older than you and I definitely ain’t raising nobody else children
@@JohnniePermint I heard that!!!👍😊 LOL
@@hermanedwards1981 lmao2 😂🤣
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol And another thing is if you do date a single mom is.
The fact that if you get close to her child and get to love it like it's your own.
If things don't work out with the mom.
She won't let you see the kids and that hurts you and the kids.
I will be turning 54 this year and have a 7 year rule that I will not cross. If she is 7+ years younger than me then I won't even consider the relationship. My preference is to find someone my age or no less than 3 years younger. In this way we could both grow old together. Also, a woman my age would have adult kids. She would be retired or close to it and would be free to travel.
If she's around my age and doesn't have kids (🚩) then I'm looking to see if she has an Adam's apple 🧐🤔🤨
In this day and age of transformers you have to watch what you grab 👀
Hey Xsx, I get ya and I totally agree. Im super wary if I meet a 35+ year old woman who has no kids and never been married. Def yellow, if not red flag for her.
Guys!!!! Always remember, "we" have the advantage, the upper hand. While you are dating her, take your time and vet her. Spend a couple hundred(or even a thousand) dollars and do a deep background check if you like her so much! Never forget... MEN ARE THE PRIZE!!!
Men control the relationship. Women on the other hand, should make herself to be the best option to any man especially if she's a single mom because of her competition which is single, young, women. You are right, Vernon. Doing a background check won't hurt if you're talking about the future.
With all that they are asking us to do and with how little most women have to offer in return, you better believe that sh*t, Vernon! Damn right!
Hold on, what expat wants a single mom that works all day and has kids when by law he can’t even be in the house with them while she’s at work?
Agreed, almost no one out there is looking for that kinda situation. You have to find the situation that works for you. But see how it works if you find a woman with no job at all! Not so good either!
I like to add, men that do date single moms almost always don’t marry these single mothers, it is very rare that men want to be stepdads! Those kids of another man are a liability to a stepfather! I think most men aren’t being honest about dating a single mom, the one’s that say they won’t date a single mother have dated a single mom and will again! That’s not me though! Marriage is mostly out of the question but there are exceptions I’m sure!
some men just arent having it and some others are very content with that kind of situation. Every body has to do what makes them happy.
She's Right But does the single mom have fewer choices Of course ! And few men would prefer to raise or provide for another man's child.
Very few men would do that. If its tough for a single woman to find a partner, it's twice or three times harder for a single mom.
You're not wrong Rayjack! She definitely has fewer choices, especially because over here the local men likely will not touch her.
The fact is, men dont WANT to date single moms, but in thia era, it's very often either date a single mom, date a literal garden tool, or remain single forever. The single moms are still not an option anyone WANTS, it's just something that a lot of guys HAVE to settle for. So we are being completely honest when we say we dont want to daye single moms, we genuinely dont want to. And it almost always is a bad option, but a bad option ends up being the best option, when its the only option.
Ahhhhhhh, someone is getting it! We can be mad at facts, but they are still facts and most women over 30 have kids; especially here in the Phils, but even at home a very large proportion of women at that age, already have kids.
Love this topic, guys. And Rich coming in "keeping it Real" with his opinions on dating a single mother...Is that U Cheng?..LOL
Oh Rich dont forget the OTHER category of women..Thats even WORSE than the single mother.. The single filipina woman btw 30-36 who dont have kids at all, and say "oh, I dont want any children"..Then she meets a 65 yo man either online or at the mall.. So, the 65 yo man says alright !!!..I'm gonna date this 32 yr old filipina who has told me emphatically ", I dont want kids",..But lets remember guys :She ONLY says this statement just to snag you in her net.. Then after just 3 months of dating, she says "oh honey, I want a mixed baby, so lets get married, next month and I'll get pregnant".. say WHAT??..whats the hurry?.. And the filipina says her biological clock is ticking and she wants to get pregnant in the next couple months. But I thought you said you dont want kids?..I dont want kids, I'm an old man... "oh I changed my mind honey, I realized im getting older now--besides your not old, ur still under 80!!!"
And if you dont agree. heres what you hear EVEREYDAY, if you stay with this filipina.
Filipina: "honey, when are we going to have a baby?"
Honey, if you loved me you would make me pregnant
Honey we have known each other for six months, be a man and put a baby inside me.
Honey are you gay?. You havent touched me in 5 days, lets goto the bedroom to see if your still man enough to make me pregnant..
Honey ,If you dont make me pregnant in a month, I'm leaving you.(she never does, tho)
True story coming up: This american guy met his filipina ONLINE..they had known each other online for just 5 months online.She was 34yo.
He goes to visit her in the phillipines for the FIRST time and after just 1week of being there. They do the deed. Then the next day She unloads this truth bomb" I want to get pregnant, in the next 24 hours !!!!.. Are you man enough to do this for me?"....He said WHAT? No, this is not what we talked about Online!!!
Within 24 hours he was up and outta there..bags packed up and gone to another city in the phillipines. Didnt tell her which city, or she might follow him..
Damn Joel! Im amazed... amazed that it took him 24 hours to bounce! I would have left immediately and been on the first thing smokin, boss! That woman would have caused him nothing but trouble!
But I know for a fact that there is a group of women here exactly like that. They have no prospects for marriage due to their age and their only source of security in their minds is having a child ... YESTERDAY!
Wow. Just wow.
Alot of weird stuff going on out there guys. IF ur a foreigner and the filipina that is "ready for a baby", meets you- Lookout. Because you KNOW VERY well they dont like to use protection.And they are very convincing on having fun "back at your hotel/AirB&B).. Its like "why is she is easy?" So surprise, when she says 9 months later on your facebook-- your a DADDY and SHE is trying to hunt you down looking for financial support .(if your still in the phillipines area), hint hint.. better move.
yeah Joel. Thats real deal stuff. That really happens out here.
I'm with a single mother of 5 and me makes 6... she knows her shit 👍
Wow Dale! Kudos to you, brother! I dont think many men would have taken that much responsibility on, including myself! But youre not on here bitching and whining about your situation, so it cant be that bad! God bless and thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing, Dale 😊
not against single mom, but the downside was your never the priority. they will take care 1st their children than you. and the guilt of raising a child thats not yours. these red flags often cause problems that you will have your woman without a child and you have your own family. i would date a single mom if shes a widow. its streassful that a single mom that baby daddies are around and you end up being the beta male took responsibilities while your woman spend time with her baby daddies. godbless sir riche and i agree with you. more cons than pros. dating these kinds of woman will give you stress than peace in a relationship.
JJA, you are totally on point with this take, brother. Youd better be willing to take a back seat to her children if you get into a situation with a single mom.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol yes brother been to in a relationship with a single mom back then when im still simpy person. its more cons than pros. godbless to you and miss cheng brother.
Thanks to you for watching and dropping your comments, JJA !
Ching Is A Single Mom But She Has A Nice Job❤
Unlike The Other Single Mom No Job Waiting For The Bf/Partner Income😀
Lazy To Find Job
I agree with you Jane. Cheng has proven herself to be very responsible. She never asked me for money and she was more than capable of taking care of herself and her fam when we met. Im happy to add to what she has already started building.
Thank you, Jane and Rich
Some pinay have attitude also, if you ain't paying youre wasting thier time , don't date single moms, especially if the father is in the life
Im with you there, TC. The situation needs to be ideal for each man. Dont just vet her, but also vet her situation too! SHE SHOULD HAVE A REAL JOB and be able to take care of her and hers without you!
First of, some of us were raised by single moms. Second, most of us who go to the Philippines arent the best of the best anyhow. Third, scarcity mindset , one guy on YT said that if you eliminate single moms, options are reduced.
I for one did date a few single moms and decided to NOT have one for a long term relationship. To each their own though
Throughout the video, I say that I definitely understand the men who choose not to date single moms. I GET IT! However to address your first comment, I get that many people were raised by single moms, but would you consider that to be the optimal environment for a child to be raised in, as opposed to being raised with a father to teach you a lot of things that your mom will never be able to teach or show you or who instills pride and confidence in you with the praise that you get from him AND her? Just my thoughts...
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol I get your point. It is like saying 'I like living poor because I grew up poor'. And yes I agree a normal nuclear family is the ideal environment for kids. I was just cutting some slack to some of our brother, I actually grew up in a normal 2 parents household, with a patriarchal father, which is why it would be a little hard for me to be raising another man's kid.... but I guess for those not lucky enough to have that, they might feel it to be ironic to shy away from single mother.Same sentiment some divorcees have, like " i too have kids" etc.
Exactly Newafrican! Now youre feelin' me, brother!
I wouldn't date a single mom if her kids are under 18 years old. At 18, they are adults and I don't consider them as "kids". At my age (65), I'm well past any desire to raise young kids. I'm retired now and my goals are about traveling & relaxing during my retirement & earning some side income from my investment hobby to supplement my retirement.
Hey Nappy, im with you on this, but here in the Phils, even young adults will often live with their moms for a long time; even up to marriage. This leads to a lot of them turning out to be mamas boys and being rejected by a lot of women. My point is, even when they are over 18, it still isnt a guarantee that they will be gone and out of the house.
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol My thinking on this is different. If my GF & her 18+ "kid" were living together in her place before I showed up in my GFs life, then her 18+ "kid" can stay there while the mother stays with me on most days or my GF can alternate between staying at my place and her place.
Ok, Im with that! That makes sense to me.
Not this guy. I have three sisters. Two ended up being single moms, between them, my Aunt and others, no way no how. If I want to be last in the line of importance, I will stay single and neglect myself, lol. I have no interest in another man's DNA. Sorry they picked the wrong one, but I am not coming behind to sweep up the mess.
@Ripley
That's a good boy!
I hear ya and I cant argue with you at all, Ripley!
Filipino. Men Won't...
Filipino men wont touch a woman with a child. Thats why they are looking for foreign guys. Next in line, please.
Most Filipino men won't touch a single mom because of "face" and most of their families will not approve of the relationship.
Single mom is a no no no non no no
i hear ya, Nuke! I hear ya.
There are good single Moms and Bad ones. There are good single childless women and bad. There are bad people and good people, All these vloggers are just Blah Blah Blah for entertainment purpose only and they make their money that way, Best to take your time and know the person you are with. That Simple. And yes sometimes mistakes will be made. Live Your own life.
I couldnt have said it better. Live your best life. Learn from your mistakes and keep moving forward!
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cmon, surely you have a bigger vocab than that! Would you care to explain further?
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol bro, watch animal planet. what happens after a male lion takes over a pride? the end.
He kills the young ones straightaway! I love animal planet and I hear ya. Every situation is different though. How would you consider a situation where the father passed away and she is a good mom, but a widow? Is that the same?
@@RichieRichAbroad-us6ol he kills all cubs. no baby mamas. you want dating advice watch animal planet. the rest is BS.
The big question and controversy is Not about dating single women. Its getting MARRIED to them. Which is mostly a NO! NO!😎
If youre gonna offer that large of a commitment, you'd definitely better be sure about the choice youre making.
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