Wow, that was a quick turnaround with the edit! Just in case I forgot to mention: I have published a book about photography in English and Chinese. 🤣 Thanks for having me on!
For Adobe: When are we going to get proper multi-core and graphic card acceleration on PC (and maybe Mac but I don't know Mac)? It is already obvious that the software isn't fully optimised but with AI already there and going to get exponentially more and more powerful, using 100% of hardware resources is going to be crucial.
I've been a huge fan of Kai and Lok since the DigitalRev days in the late 2000s and early 2010s. They really brought a lot fun and excitement to the photography space, and pioneered this "photo/video content creation" industry. I have to say that I am a little sad to see how dejected and apathetic Kai now seems to be regarding this industry. In contrast, I am very glad that Chris and Jordan are still very much themselves after all these years!
We've wanted small cameras the whole time. It's just in the last 5 years that they stopped making them. It's not an explosion of interest, we were mostly catered to for years, and then suddenly dropped off a cliff. 🤷♂️
I love my Canon G1X mark iii. My R5 stays in the studio for most of my hiking but the G1X always comes with me. I hope they make mark iv! Small cameras are amazing and I hope these companies realize this again.
and yet, most people have a "good enough" compact camera in their hands for a lot of the day. they're also used to take calls, send messages & surf the net.
Camera review can be fun .. who invented that? KAI W. Yes Digital Rev TV was behind that liberty that KAI had but it was him. Kai Alambi Lok are the best TRIO. The greatest funniest camera reviews ever found on internet youtube all by KAI W.
Nice to see Kai in the show. Collaborate more with Kai, also such a huge competence and entertaining skills since years. - As yours are too! 😀 Greetings from South-West Germany.
It’s so interesting how grumpy and disillusioned Kai is in this episode about the whole UA-cam-ing thing. I wanna hear him explore this existential situation he’s in
Jaron and Jordan were the only ones that semi-rescued this one. Kai and Chris, competing to see who could be more insipid and snarky. Blech. Boring. Sophomoric and just plain dumb-assed humor went out with the late 1990s...apparently Chris and Kai never got the memo. Grow up.
Regarding Nikon Z-mount and APS-C, the question I think is what lesson Nikon is learning: the lesson that APS-C isn't a feasible market, or that their APS-C Z-mount bodies just weren't very exciting. Which in addition to the limited lens line-up I think explains why that didn't sell so well. The problem on "focusing what they can sell" is that it completely disregards the mechanisms in the market, or why a customer ends up buying a Z8 or Z9. Or even "just" a Z6 III, which is still not a cheap camera either. I'm not just talking about getting an entry-level body and then stepping up either. I'm also talking about rocking an FX and a DX body. The D500 was partially a success because of that.
One of my favourite lenses was the Canon 28 - 135mm used on a crop camera. I wish they come out with that type of lens again, a bit faster and a bit sharper. But I used that lens a lot, especially on ten wine tours and I was happy with the resulting images.
Questions for Adobe: 1. Is there any Lightroom development team left with a clear strategy? Classic is feeling left for dead, with an aging UI and worsening performance; « CC » is still lacking many features to be a proper replacement, and has had very few updates over the last years (except AI), hardly justifying the high cost of a subscription. 2. Do you have any plan to properly support iPads? Most providers like Affinity or DaVinci offer almost all functionalities of their desktop counterpart. Meanwhile, it’s not possible to set the output quality on Premiere Rush, or just a custom crop ratio on Lightroom iPad (requested on Adobe’s forum in 2017)
Would also appreciate asking about Android support as well! It's so weird that the iPad version randomly supports importing from a camera/media card, but Android devices can't AFAIK, despite almost universally having USB-C ports.
@@JMurph2015 that’s actually the kind of thing that irritates me the most: the lack of logic. I would understand if certain features are not available, either due to lack of CPU power, or UI challenge to adapt to touch.. anything logical. But it always seems completely random. Like: you can edit curves on for the whole picture but.. not on a mask. Hence a bit my question on strategy, as it seems completely random; even the differentiation between CC and Classic, now that it can edit locally.
@@JMurph2015 that’s actually the kind of thing that irritates me the most: the lack of logic. I would understand if certain features are not available, either due to lack of CPU power, or UI challenge to adapt to touch.. anything logical. But it always seems completely random. Like: you can edit curves on for the whole picture but.. not on a mask. Hence a bit my question on strategy, as it seems completely random; even the differentiation between CC and Classic, now that it can edit locally.
I suggested on a couple of UA-cam Channels in their comments that I thought the new Leica SL3 power button was causing problems. It is hard to know if the camera is in sleep mode or off.Cheers!
Finaly it comes together what belongs together... my favorite camera testers since ages... i really love you since camerastore and digitalrev... oh and my 7d still works 🙂... by the way, where is Lok ...still filming with his 5dmk2?
I don't shoot Canon right now but I took a look at the R3 some time ago and really liked the feel of that camera. Make the R3 the upgraded replacement for the R7 and you have the new Nikon D500, king of the cropped sensor cameras. Just make improvements like an upgraded 30+ meg sensor to get rid of rolling shutter and their latest AF tech, minus eye-track. I think wildlife photographers, especially birders, would spend the extra money to make this camera happen if Canon could bring this camera in for around 3-grand. I'd love to team this with their 100-500mm zoom.
A new Pen F from OM System would be great - I've always thought it rather weird that they never updated that camera, considering it still holds its price even now.
Please let's leave olympus om-whatever out of the equation. They filed for bankruptcy for a reason. Their product didnt interest enough ppl for their price point.
It was a tax write off so they could make more amazing cameras. Best in the business. Best ibis. Best image quality. Best handling. Best build. Best ergonomics. Best naming schemes. Best menus. Best marketing. Just because you don't understand their genius doesn't mean they should be ignored. Maybe if you knew anything about photography you'd realize Om-Lympus is the greatest brand ever to exist.
Z6III had one problem with one brand of CFExpress Type B card. Kept freezing the camera where the dials and buttons stopped working. I had to pop out the Battery to turn off the camera and BTW it Reset the settings in the camera after each time it froze. My Two Z6III's froze with that brand. I will say that I was Video vlogging and panning which may have caused the problem. When the cameras were stationary there was no problem. That brand had no problems with any other Nikon and Canon Cameras with the same cards. Cheers!
RF lenses “no-one can imagine yet”? So, since *no-one* can imagine them, then Canon cannot imagine them either, and how would they know if they can’t imagine them? 🤔😂
Years ago I heard an interview with Steve Jobs and when asked why they don't do focus groups he replied (in essence): People don't know what they want if they haven't seen it. If you use focus groups, you'll never innovate and come up with something that people never imagined...Apple with Jobs had many innovations with concepts/gear no one had seen before: original iMac, iPhone, etc. Not that Canon has ever been as visionary as Apple used to be, but that doesn't mean they don't have engineers and deisgners with vision. They just have to make use of them.
@@JoelWolfsonPhoto Despite Jobs’ assertion that focus groups are useless, it’s nevertheless essential to identify unmet gaps in the market. It’s about asking the right questions around people’s ‘pain points’ in their day-to-day lives, solving problems, not just asking “what do you want?”, which is probably what he actually meant. That’s core to successful product development. Canon’s core problem is the camera tech plateau combined with very strong competition in a mature market. Only time will tell if it has a vision that can be translated into compelling, must-buy, products, or if it is like Apple today with a stagnating product line-up apart from some faster chips (practical but not sexy) and a VR headset (sexy, but not practical).
Well this was a lovely surprise. Isn't it nice when we make this photography stuff fun? Much love to all the fellas. You're appreciated. "I get bored of cameras these days". Could not agree more with Kai. Endless incrementally upgraded specs, with not much to get excited about, especially for stills shooters. It's a golden age for video shooters though! Stills image quality has clearly hit a hard plateau, so to encourage buyers to 'upgrade' and get excited, it feels like we need a leap forward in the whole user experience e.g. A full Android user interface with apps maybe. I find myself fantasising about a new Sony RX1 with an Xperia Android interface. A compact fixed lens body with a big high-res rear screen, the A7's 33MP full frame sensor and a G-Master quality fixed lens (28mm?). That thing would sell numbers off the scale and it's absolutely do-able... But not likely! Anyway, whatever, I'm just blabbering and thinking out loud. Ignore me. Great show as always! EDIT: I missed the part of the podcast where you guys actually mention Sony launching a new RX1. Nice to know I'm not alone or crazy!
Chris sure seemed to be getting edgy/defensive about the Canon drawbacks portion of the discussion (e.g., lack of specs, mismatched LED panels, dual pixel AF) 😂
@@niccollsvideo I hear you. It's amazing how far mirrorless has come (and digital photography in general) in such a short period of time. You can easily lose sight of that and get bogged down in specs. The fact is, you can get the job done and then some with any of these top cameras.
As an amateur photographer who is greatly improving my skills and already having the R5, would getting the R3 be a good investment and a compliment to the R5? I do a lot of landscape, airshow, studio portrait photography. My work is now providing me a good side hustle $$$. Your opinion is appreciated.
35:42 That's the reason no one should refer to screen resolution in dots. 1.23m against 922k dots sounds like a whopping 33% increase in resolution, but they are RGBW and RGB pixels respectively, while the end resolution is the same 640x480 on both. 3.2" 4.2m dots sounds like insane resolution (with more DPI than modern flagship phones have), and no one has ever done it before or since, but who knows, maybe they count quantum dots or something there too, or pixels are made from 8 subpixels. Also - AI image enhancements worked great in Gordon's example and weren't just "pixel count multipliers" as you've described it previously.
‘US speaking web sites, Canada , UK’ I think you’ll find they speak English 😂, and Chris is welcome to pop by any time he is in Uk and play with my A7R5 and 300mm prime :)
Affinity Photo is sadly not a LR alternative but more a Photoshop alternative, No catalog, unintuitive UI. I also tried capture One but its also very unintuitive and just overloaded. As much as i hate Adobe, i love LR Classic and as long as i can pay 12€ a month for just LR Classic im fine giving Adobe Money
Panasonic should make the smaller size m4/3 camera bodies since they already had GM series and now very small S9, plus they have the new, state-of-the-art sensor at 26mpix. So, all the tech for this is within their grasp...
I believe with ALL the larger camera brands you'll see consolidation of models and the end of some lines. For Sony, i think the S line is done, and I can see A7 and A7r line being merged in the future.
To be fair to canon, they have made some lenses that are kinda unique. 28-70 f2, 24-105 f2.8, 200-800mm, 10-20mm, 600/800mm f11. I do like that they are trying different things but they should definitly focus on the basic lenses first. Great f1.4 primes is something everyone wants. If I was a decision maker at canon I would definitly have focused more on those initially. Especially when not allowing third party as those generally fill that void perfectly.
I’ve noticed lately that your camera companies are bringing cameras out with super high, mega pixels and scaling back and settling around 24 megapixels, now that we have such programs says giga, pixel AI do you think it is as important as it used to be to have sensors with such high megapixels?.
The main issue with high megapixel sensors comes down to readout speed. Readout speed affects the usability of electronic shutter specifically for freezing action, burst rate with electronic shutter, and decreases or completely eliminates rolling shutter (jello effect) issues from video. Either way, lower megapixels is not better or worse, it just serves a different purpose; at least until technology progresses and 100mp sensors are just as fast as our current 24mp sensors.
seems to be a lot of disappointment with a new R1 sensor resolution, many photographers were expecting minimum would be 30 megapixels resolution going forward, I guess sensor technology has plateaued and games of point of diminishing returns.
I think the R1 and R5II will probably have more people switch from Canon. Never mind the cost increase but the "meh factor" over what they are replacing isn't very exciting. I expect the Sony A7 V will blow people away and I think there are more then 1 canon users now waiting to see what Sony drops later this year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Canon decides to follow Nikon and make R3ii a chopped version of R1 in the future, like Z8&Z9. That is the only way having both camera lines makes sense at this point.
Pairing Chris “I can barely keep myself on track” Nicholls with Kai “I give zero f$&ks about even trying to stay on track” Wong was a dangerous thing to do. Please, please do it again. Soon.
Nobody cares about R3, but I would like to see K3 IV. Pentax :) Different LCDs in Canons might be result of supplier issues. If they have one version for all cameras, once source has problems, then all cameras are stopped. If they have various models, there is good chance to mitigate such issue. But one would expect R1 to have at least 45Mpix sensor with same parameters.
Ask Adobe to bring back user lens profile database and tool for LR/CameraRaw. So many ‘modern’ lenses don’t have profiles and they used to when the tool was available. Now with mirrorless being able to adapt so many legacy lenses the need for user created profiles is even more needed
I don't think the R3 is necessarily dead. It may be in the future that Canon releases say a 30 or 40 MP R1 body in which case the R3 would become a budget friendly body that sits between the R1 and R5 (like it does now). So I wouldn't necessarily call it dead unless Canon releases an R1 Mark II before an R3 Mark II comes out, then it might be dead.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Magic Lantern on Canon DSLRs allowed you to have multiple overlays at the same time while recording in 2012. Canon hiding level overlay during recording is baffling and has nothing to do with processing power.
The R1 is not a clear winner. It is, at best, a minor upgrade to the R3. I think they tried a number of upgrades but concluded they could not rely on the technology to work at professional levels. I remember the early R5 had overheating problems that really caused people to not trust Canon. So, they remembered this debacle and decided they were not going to take a chance the same would happen with the R1. Then there is the incredible hype over the last year or two where all kinds of amazing features were envisioned by the UA-cam pundits. You could almost see the wind hissing out as they tried to explain what the R1 really had as opposed to all the preceding speculation. I would not pay $1.7K more for an R1 over the R3. Especially when the Sony Alpha 9 III is $6K with the same megapixels and a global shutter.
4:33 Yeah, the AW1 was cool! I bought a used one and had it for a while to use in the rain. Definitely unique though I wasn't blown away by the image quality and maintaining the seals looked like a pain plus I needed the cash, so I eventually sold it while it was still in good shape. It would be cool to see a larger sensor waterproof camera.
Then what's the point of the R1? Arguably, the R5ii has the better overall sensor of the two, according to a lot of the reviewers. The R1 24MP sensor is fast, but it's not so overwhelmingly fast compared to the R5ii's 45MP sensor.
Adobe Question: Why can’t you fully support HEIF HEIC files. Perhaps you should try and hire some of the stare engineers from Affinity or Pixelmator! JPG is so third world!
Wow, that was a quick turnaround with the edit! Just in case I forgot to mention: I have published a book about photography in English and Chinese. 🤣 Thanks for having me on!
Link?
Amazon?
@@BruceLeroyUK Old School Photography: 100 Things You Must Know to Take Fantastic Film Photos. I have a few copies on my bookshelf.
@@choppedLI thanks
Well I just bought the book , so full success 🫡
Kai making loads of British jokes, and the deadly silences after - incredible, pure British comedy gold!
It’s so awkward but I love it lol
@@FPVwineUK I wonder how long before Jared aka Fro Knows…loses his mind about KAI getting attention AGAIN because he’s “not a real photographer “
He may be cutting jokes, but has absolutely nothing to say, even when they ask him questions because he just sits silent😅
@@CoenradJMorgan Kai can be crass but he never puts other photographers down like Jared does.
@@joshuaprietophoto true thatI really enjoyed his mental health devoid Digital Rev videos and many since, kept me from going mad during the lockdowns
Mr. Comic relief himself. Finally a worthy collab
This is what I was waiting for since TheCameraStoreTV and DigitalRev TV!!!🎉
What a time to be alive!
"we invented the blacklist" lol kai is a legend
Kai on more often 😂please
Yessssss
Please no. He is not even that funny and has nothing to say beyond sarcasm.
@@grimfist79 hahahaha 🤣
Kai W! The Benny Hill of the camera world! Living Legend!!!!
Kai + da Boys? Dream collaboration!
Speaking of alternatives to Photoshop, I think Kai should sell a set of tools for photo editing. We could call it Kai's Power Tools. 😉
Honestly, Kai seems so authentic and just very nice. Great having him on.
WITH KAI. Lok should have joined too
The one and only Kai! Finally! ❤
For Adobe: When are we going to get proper multi-core and graphic card acceleration on PC (and maybe Mac but I don't know Mac)? It is already obvious that the software isn't fully optimised but with AI already there and going to get exponentially more and more powerful, using 100% of hardware resources is going to be crucial.
Guys just please invite Kai more often 🙏🤗😁
I feel a PetaKai transformation coming.
I've been a huge fan of Kai and Lok since the DigitalRev days in the late 2000s and early 2010s. They really brought a lot fun and excitement to the photography space, and pioneered this "photo/video content creation" industry. I have to say that I am a little sad to see how dejected and apathetic Kai now seems to be regarding this industry. In contrast, I am very glad that Chris and Jordan are still very much themselves after all these years!
Kai bringing the awkwardness lol
And nothing else. He had nothing to say
We've wanted small cameras the whole time. It's just in the last 5 years that they stopped making them. It's not an explosion of interest, we were mostly catered to for years, and then suddenly dropped off a cliff.
🤷♂️
I love my Canon G1X mark iii. My R5 stays in the studio for most of my hiking but the G1X always comes with me. I hope they make mark iv! Small cameras are amazing and I hope these companies realize this again.
and yet, most people have a "good enough" compact camera in their hands for a lot of the day. they're also used to take calls, send messages & surf the net.
Camera review can be fun .. who invented that? KAI W. Yes Digital Rev TV was behind that liberty that KAI had but it was him. Kai Alambi Lok are the best TRIO. The greatest funniest camera reviews ever found on internet youtube all by KAI W.
Nice to see Kai in the show. Collaborate more with Kai, also such a huge competence and entertaining skills since years. - As yours are too! 😀 Greetings from South-West Germany.
You are joking right?😅
@@grimfist79 Not really. I like his kind at all and since years. Greetings.
Chris Niccolls is the Charles Barkley of photography.
Can't wait for the shirt on the merch store:
Adobe: We do things your wife won't do
It’s so interesting how grumpy and disillusioned Kai is in this episode about the whole UA-cam-ing thing. I wanna hear him explore this existential situation he’s in
The other 3 guys whinnied about Canon and being invited to that event. Very unprofessional and next time they need to stay home.
Kai !! A True OG !
..but where's Lok?
It's like Chris without Jordan 😅
Lok is seeking asylum in UK. What a joke 😂
Kai is the reason I bought a 7d years ago. Love that thing.
He's the reason i once got the panasonic 15mm 1.7 for m43. A nice old video of when he was trying to pretend he was wealthy.
I love Kai too. ;)
He was the reason I bought a 1100D over a decade ago.
There I was thinking that Chris is going to forget how sad he was that he had to return M11 Mono.
Wow Kai!😍 Hi Kai nice to see you slumming. 👏🏻🫶🏻❤️
Jarr was STRESSIN this podcast lmao. Too much non topic conversations 😂
He is too negative in the two podcasts I watched.
Jaron and Jordan were the only ones that semi-rescued this one. Kai and Chris, competing to see who could be more insipid and snarky. Blech. Boring. Sophomoric and just plain dumb-assed humor went out with the late 1990s...apparently Chris and Kai never got the memo. Grow up.
@@warn0245 daddy chill
Regarding Nikon Z-mount and APS-C, the question I think is what lesson Nikon is learning: the lesson that APS-C isn't a feasible market, or that their APS-C Z-mount bodies just weren't very exciting. Which in addition to the limited lens line-up I think explains why that didn't sell so well.
The problem on "focusing what they can sell" is that it completely disregards the mechanisms in the market, or why a customer ends up buying a Z8 or Z9. Or even "just" a Z6 III, which is still not a cheap camera either. I'm not just talking about getting an entry-level body and then stepping up either. I'm also talking about rocking an FX and a DX body. The D500 was partially a success because of that.
Kai is a good mix for you guys. Great show!
Kai Wong as a regular reccuring guest please!
I’d love to see Benj Haisch on the podcast.
All the cameras that Kai have dropped… how many?
And dont forget all the lenses he juggled with.
Awesome - love Kai joining in - should be a regular!!
Kai is the limit 📷
One of my favourite lenses was the Canon 28 - 135mm used on a crop camera. I wish they come out with that type of lens again, a bit faster and a bit sharper. But I used that lens a lot, especially on ten wine tours and I was happy with the resulting images.
18-135 was a great range
This is the genisis of the AFS 24-120/4 and the current Z 24-120/4.
KAI FTW!
Questions for Adobe: 1. Is there any Lightroom development team left with a clear strategy? Classic is feeling left for dead, with an aging UI and worsening performance; « CC » is still lacking many features to be a proper replacement, and has had very few updates over the last years (except AI), hardly justifying the high cost of a subscription.
2. Do you have any plan to properly support iPads? Most providers like Affinity or DaVinci offer almost all functionalities of their desktop counterpart. Meanwhile, it’s not possible to set the output quality on Premiere Rush, or just a custom crop ratio on Lightroom iPad (requested on Adobe’s forum in 2017)
Would also appreciate asking about Android support as well! It's so weird that the iPad version randomly supports importing from a camera/media card, but Android devices can't AFAIK, despite almost universally having USB-C ports.
@@JMurph2015 that’s actually the kind of thing that irritates me the most: the lack of logic. I would understand if certain features are not available, either due to lack of CPU power, or UI challenge to adapt to touch.. anything logical. But it always seems completely random. Like: you can edit curves on for the whole picture but.. not on a mask. Hence a bit my question on strategy, as it seems completely random; even the differentiation between CC and Classic, now that it can edit locally.
@@JMurph2015 that’s actually the kind of thing that irritates me the most: the lack of logic. I would understand if certain features are not available, either due to lack of CPU power, or UI challenge to adapt to touch.. anything logical. But it always seems completely random. Like: you can edit curves on for the whole picture but.. not on a mask. Hence a bit my question on strategy, as it seems completely random; even the differentiation between CC and Classic, now that it can edit locally.
Madness, just madness. Top tier guest
Great addition to the podcast. I want a R5ii but don’t have any money… guess I will settle with my Fuji cameras.
Kai and PetaPixel? Wait! What?!!!!!!!!!
I suggested on a couple of UA-cam Channels in their comments that I thought the new Leica SL3 power button was causing problems. It is hard to know if the camera is in sleep mode or off.Cheers!
Finaly it comes together what belongs together... my favorite camera testers since ages... i really love you since camerastore and digitalrev... oh and my 7d still works 🙂... by the way, where is Lok ...still filming with his 5dmk2?
Yay we got Kai after Gordon! Everyone should buy Kai's book! I bought one (English one) and honestly think it's fantastic!!
I don't shoot Canon right now but I took a look at the R3 some time ago and really liked the feel of that camera. Make the R3 the upgraded replacement for the R7 and you have the new Nikon D500, king of the cropped sensor cameras. Just make improvements like an upgraded 30+ meg sensor to get rid of rolling shutter and their latest AF tech, minus eye-track. I think wildlife photographers, especially birders, would spend the extra money to make this camera happen if Canon could bring this camera in for around 3-grand. I'd love to team this with their 100-500mm zoom.
A new Pen F from OM System would be great - I've always thought it rather weird that they never updated that camera, considering it still holds its price even now.
Please let's leave olympus om-whatever out of the equation. They filed for bankruptcy for a reason. Their product didnt interest enough ppl for their price point.
It was a tax write off so they could make more amazing cameras. Best in the business. Best ibis. Best image quality. Best handling. Best build. Best ergonomics. Best naming schemes. Best menus. Best marketing. Just because you don't understand their genius doesn't mean they should be ignored. Maybe if you knew anything about photography you'd realize Om-Lympus is the greatest brand ever to exist.
The R3 line is now called the R1
Z6III had one problem with one brand of CFExpress Type B card. Kept freezing the camera where the dials and buttons stopped working. I had to pop out the Battery to turn off the camera and BTW it Reset the settings in the camera after each time it froze. My Two Z6III's froze with that brand. I will say that I was Video vlogging and panning which may have caused the problem. When the cameras were stationary there was no problem. That brand had no problems with any other Nikon and Canon Cameras with the same cards. Cheers!
RF lenses “no-one can imagine yet”? So, since *no-one* can imagine them, then Canon cannot imagine them either, and how would they know if they can’t imagine them? 🤔😂
Years ago I heard an interview with Steve Jobs and when asked why they don't do focus groups he replied (in essence): People don't know what they want if they haven't seen it. If you use focus groups, you'll never innovate and come up with something that people never imagined...Apple with Jobs had many innovations with concepts/gear no one had seen before: original iMac, iPhone, etc. Not that Canon has ever been as visionary as Apple used to be, but that doesn't mean they don't have engineers and deisgners with vision. They just have to make use of them.
They said "you can't imagine yet".
@@jeejbeejEr, no, actually. If you listen to Jaron reading out the “exact quote” from 16:35 “no-one can imagine yet”.
@@JoelWolfsonPhoto Despite Jobs’ assertion that focus groups are useless, it’s nevertheless essential to identify unmet gaps in the market. It’s about asking the right questions around people’s ‘pain points’ in their day-to-day lives, solving problems, not just asking “what do you want?”, which is probably what he actually meant. That’s core to successful product development.
Canon’s core problem is the camera tech plateau combined with very strong competition in a mature market. Only time will tell if it has a vision that can be translated into compelling, must-buy, products, or if it is like Apple today with a stagnating product line-up apart from some faster chips (practical but not sexy) and a VR headset (sexy, but not practical).
Wait - Kai Hendrixed a camera? How did I miss that back in the day? 📸 🎸 🔥
Well this was a lovely surprise. Isn't it nice when we make this photography stuff fun? Much love to all the fellas. You're appreciated.
"I get bored of cameras these days". Could not agree more with Kai. Endless incrementally upgraded specs, with not much to get excited about, especially for stills shooters. It's a golden age for video shooters though! Stills image quality has clearly hit a hard plateau, so to encourage buyers to 'upgrade' and get excited, it feels like we need a leap forward in the whole user experience e.g. A full Android user interface with apps maybe.
I find myself fantasising about a new Sony RX1 with an Xperia Android interface. A compact fixed lens body with a big high-res rear screen, the A7's 33MP full frame sensor and a G-Master quality fixed lens (28mm?). That thing would sell numbers off the scale and it's absolutely do-able... But not likely!
Anyway, whatever, I'm just blabbering and thinking out loud. Ignore me. Great show as always!
EDIT: I missed the part of the podcast where you guys actually mention Sony launching a new RX1. Nice to know I'm not alone or crazy!
I def would love to see a docuphototravel series with lok, Kai and the Pera pixel crew!
Chris sure seemed to be getting edgy/defensive about the Canon drawbacks portion of the discussion (e.g., lack of specs, mismatched LED panels, dual pixel AF) 😂
I just want to keep context on what the camera can and can’t do. It may be an R3 mkII but it’s still an effective tool.
@@niccollsvideo I hear you. It's amazing how far mirrorless has come (and digital photography in general) in such a short period of time. You can easily lose sight of that and get bogged down in specs. The fact is, you can get the job done and then some with any of these top cameras.
YES KAI
As an amateur photographer who is greatly improving my skills and already having the R5, would getting the R3 be a good investment and a compliment to the R5? I do a lot of landscape, airshow, studio portrait photography. My work is now providing me a good side hustle $$$. Your opinion is appreciated.
35:42 That's the reason no one should refer to screen resolution in dots. 1.23m against 922k dots sounds like a whopping 33% increase in resolution, but they are RGBW and RGB pixels respectively, while the end resolution is the same 640x480 on both.
3.2" 4.2m dots sounds like insane resolution (with more DPI than modern flagship phones have), and no one has ever done it before or since, but who knows, maybe they count quantum dots or something there too, or pixels are made from 8 subpixels.
Also - AI image enhancements worked great in Gordon's example and weren't just "pixel count multipliers" as you've described it previously.
On APSC subject, it seems they are still the best selling cameras in many big stores, including for Canon and Nikon
‘US speaking web sites, Canada , UK’ I think you’ll find they speak English 😂, and Chris is welcome to pop by any time he is in Uk and play with my A7R5 and 300mm prime :)
Affinity Photo is sadly not a LR alternative but more a Photoshop alternative, No catalog, unintuitive UI. I also tried capture One but its also very unintuitive and just overloaded. As much as i hate Adobe, i love LR Classic and as long as i can pay 12€ a month for just LR Classic im fine giving Adobe Money
Panasonic should make the smaller size m4/3 camera bodies since they already had GM series and now very small S9, plus they have the new, state-of-the-art sensor at 26mpix. So, all the tech for this is within their grasp...
I believe with ALL the larger camera brands you'll see consolidation of models and the end of some lines. For Sony, i think the S line is done, and I can see A7 and A7r line being merged in the future.
To be fair to canon, they have made some lenses that are kinda unique. 28-70 f2, 24-105 f2.8, 200-800mm, 10-20mm, 600/800mm f11.
I do like that they are trying different things but they should definitly focus on the basic lenses first. Great f1.4 primes is something everyone wants. If I was a decision maker at canon I would definitly have focused more on those initially. Especially when not allowing third party as those generally fill that void perfectly.
I’ve noticed lately that your camera companies are bringing cameras out with super high, mega pixels and scaling back and settling around 24 megapixels, now that we have such programs says giga, pixel AI do you think it is as important as it used to be to have sensors with such high megapixels?.
Who scaled back to 24Mp? No one
@@outdoorlife_nature I assume he's referring to the Canon R1
The main issue with high megapixel sensors comes down to readout speed. Readout speed affects the usability of electronic shutter specifically for freezing action, burst rate with electronic shutter, and decreases or completely eliminates rolling shutter (jello effect) issues from video. Either way, lower megapixels is not better or worse, it just serves a different purpose; at least until technology progresses and 100mp sensors are just as fast as our current 24mp sensors.
@@outdoorlife_nature Sony A9III, Nikon Z6III, Canon R1
seems to be a lot of disappointment with a new R1 sensor resolution, many photographers were expecting minimum would be 30 megapixels resolution going forward, I guess sensor technology has plateaued and games of point of diminishing returns.
Guys this is a really funny and great effort! greetings from Mexico!
I think the R1 and R5II will probably have more people switch from Canon. Never mind the cost increase but the "meh factor" over what they are replacing isn't very exciting. I expect the Sony A7 V will blow people away and I think there are more then 1 canon users now waiting to see what Sony drops later this year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Canon decides to follow Nikon and make R3ii a chopped version of R1 in the future, like Z8&Z9. That is the only way having both camera lines makes sense at this point.
Pairing Chris “I can barely keep myself on track” Nicholls with Kai “I give zero f$&ks about even trying to stay on track” Wong was a dangerous thing to do. Please, please do it again. Soon.
Nobody cares about R3, but I would like to see K3 IV. Pentax :)
Different LCDs in Canons might be result of supplier issues. If they have one version for all cameras, once source has problems, then all cameras are stopped. If they have various models, there is good chance to mitigate such issue. But one would expect R1 to have at least 45Mpix sensor with same parameters.
Enjoyable as always, love seeing kai joining in! Also, I just ordered his book for some more Kai content ;)
As soon as someone thinks about a lens that has never been done before canon can stop working on it because, well... now you've thought about it.
Uni students all know what Canva is, everyone else not so much.
Ask Adobe to bring back user lens profile database and tool for LR/CameraRaw. So many ‘modern’ lenses don’t have profiles and they used to when the tool was available. Now with mirrorless being able to adapt so many legacy lenses the need for user created profiles is even more needed
One of the best features on the R5 Mk2 that no one talks about is that it makes the price on the R5 Mk1 much cheaper.
Jordan is already looking mortified within the first few minutes lmao
1:02 Chris is gonna say the M10/M11 Monochrom....
4:14 CONFIRMED
Please do more podcast like this
Dude the porn analogy is spot on actually. So I hear 😅
They are completely pet - files - storing files list in PDFs 😅
I miss the non-fisheye Sigma 8-16mm ... could Canon make one with an f2.8 or 4? Waving from The Bahamas 🇧🇸
Kai the goat
I don't think the R3 is necessarily dead. It may be in the future that Canon releases say a 30 or 40 MP R1 body in which case the R3 would become a budget friendly body that sits between the R1 and R5 (like it does now). So I wouldn't necessarily call it dead unless Canon releases an R1 Mark II before an R3 Mark II comes out, then it might be dead.
When are you doing the HOT-WINGS Challenge podcast!! Chris and Jordan do it in person!! Now I would watch that.
Actually, I have a shift mount adapter for M43 to mount Nikon F lenses. I can mount a zoom on it if I want to.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Magic Lantern on Canon DSLRs allowed you to have multiple overlays at the same time while recording in 2012. Canon hiding level overlay during recording is baffling and has nothing to do with processing power.
HOLY MOLY ITS KAI
The R1 is not a clear winner. It is, at best, a minor upgrade to the R3. I think they tried a number of upgrades but concluded they could not rely on the technology to work at professional levels. I remember the early R5 had overheating problems that really caused people to not trust Canon. So, they remembered this debacle and decided they were not going to take a chance the same would happen with the R1. Then there is the incredible hype over the last year or two where all kinds of amazing features were envisioned by the UA-cam pundits. You could almost see the wind hissing out as they tried to explain what the R1 really had as opposed to all the preceding speculation. I would not pay $1.7K more for an R1 over the R3. Especially when the Sony Alpha 9 III is $6K with the same megapixels and a global shutter.
All my favourite humans!!!!!! At least in photography and videography 🎉
Hello friends! :)
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Kai the canon legend lol
Canon got caught with their pants down yet AGAIN!!! 🙄
In the thumbnail you can see the "LoC" from LoCa - was that done on purpose in reference of KAI & LOK? :P
17:00 No one could have imagined the VR lens, so I guess give them some credit lol
is canon still a thing?
Wow, great collaboration. I wish I was still really into cameras like when I first started watching y’all
Just ordered Kai’s book! Didn’t know he made one!
Can’t wait to see you in Brussels!
4:33 Yeah, the AW1 was cool! I bought a used one and had it for a while to use in the rain. Definitely unique though I wasn't blown away by the image quality and maintaining the seals looked like a pain plus I needed the cash, so I eventually sold it while it was still in good shape. It would be cool to see a larger sensor waterproof camera.
r5m2 sensor in a new r3m2? so r3 line becomes big body version of the r5 line?
interesting idea! though it leaves R5M3 a weird place to fit in. or, the line would be like R5 pro max(R3) and R5
Then what's the point of the R1? Arguably, the R5ii has the better overall sensor of the two, according to a lot of the reviewers. The R1 24MP sensor is fast, but it's not so overwhelmingly fast compared to the R5ii's 45MP sensor.
Adobe Question: Why can’t you fully support HEIF HEIC files. Perhaps you should try and hire some of the stare engineers from Affinity or Pixelmator! JPG is so third world!
A new canon lens like never done before, a 28-100 f2 2:1 macro