Advance Wars 1+2: Reboot Camp - Is this the reboot we were hoping for?
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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Preview embargo has lifted on the delayed and long-awaited Advance Wars 1+2: Reboot Camp! If you had a GBA, you owned and loved these games for their taut tactical brilliant in a comfortable portable format.
The big question is, does the "remake" do enough? That's what we chat about in this video - just what should go into a remake, anyway.
#advancewars #nintendoswitch #tacticsgame - Ігри
I think it's a bit unfair to compare RebootCamp to the Resident Evil 4 remake and especially to the FF7 remake (Which might as well not be a remake). The scales are very different.
That said, it does not absolve it of criticism.
They are absolutely not on the same tier. This is a budget remake in comparison. RE and FF7 are much more mainstream and larger IPs.
This remake isn’t on the same tier as RE4 or FF7 remake. The budgets are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. Advance Wars was essentially a dormant IP, it has fans but they are all 10-20 year fans, few younger gamers have played the originals. This was intended to be a gap filer release, its not a big holiday release or even more prominent than FE Engage or Pikmin 4 etc. I get fans want more from Advance Wars but the series has a diminished status in 2023 from the GBA and DS days. Now add in Nintendo’s concerns about it being a military tactics game and I don’t think a new AW is in the cards.
Idk if it's a Soulless Artstyle if it's just the same style Wayforward uses for everything. It's just not the right style for it. And yeah, it's probably designed to replace it, since Nintendo refuses to ever preserve and give access to these things. Along with that, it seems Intelligence Systems isn't gonna make anything other than Fire Emblem anytime soon. All we can really hope for is Wayforward is given the go ahead to make more and improve, or they just forget about it again and watch it die.
Edit: Also, it doesn't help that Advance Wars fans have had so many projects to keep the spirit alive that the older games are lacking in depth in some places. We got AWBW giving more teams and colors to use, talented romhack makers with new campaigns, CO adjustments and reworks, along with new units and terrain. And then there's games like Tiny Metal and Wargroove taking the basic ideas and improving (or losing in some places) mechanics with their own twists. It's quite the conundrum in the end
Man they've totally killed any interest I had in this by delaying so much. Unthinkanble to ever pay full price for this.
same the graphics choice killed interest for me and u also make a good point about price
Its been a shelved IP since 2008, another year made you lose all interest? Thats not the fault of Advance Wars… thats you
Delays shouldn't discount the value. Just because you wait doesn't mean you deserve a discount.
I am autistic and I have been a huge fan of the advance wars series for years. From what I’ve seen so far, I think the graphical art style is okay for the most part. I do like the pixel sprites better, but I can get used to the 3D models. However, some of the CO designs look kind of bad (Drake and Sensei). I’m curious to see how the music will be remastered since I have a special interest in video game music. I just hope they won’t go too hard with the guitars. I’m mostly just concerned about the gameplay because the AI in the original games is, frankly, dumb as rocks. If the AI is still going to be cheating in fog of war and doing stupid stuff in a 2023 game, idk if I will like the campaign experience. Online multiplayer will probably be problematic if there isn’t some sort of ranking system or preferred rule sets since some CO or maps are just completely unbalanced.
My issue on the 3d models is the visual clarity, for me it's kinda difficult to differentiate a tank and a medium tank especially at a quick glance
I am excited to play this and already pre-ordered from the eShop. I am disappointed they didn't do more to make it an actual new game. For what we're getting I feel the price should be more like what we see on Metroid Prime Remastered. But even at full price I'm still getting it and I'm going to enjoy playing it on the Switch.
Advance Wars is strangely cursed. The NA release was basically 24 hours away from (most likely) never seeing the light of day in America. Then the Ukraine conflict caused the second delay. But the importance of AW can't be understated. Its success (combined with Smash Bros Melee) seems to have given Nintendo the signal to localize Fire Emblem, which has been doing fairly well ever since. So while we may not have had a lot of AW games (hopefully we get more!), the series still has been a big influence in general.
Yeah I always got the sense that Advance Wars was a little too close to actual war for Nintendo's taste. They seem very sensitive about it. Fire Emblem's fantasy and anime boobs, so it's more difficult to see in a real world context. I do hope we see more. Playing the DS one ATM alongside this remake, and it totally holds up.
i agree 100% with the art style criticism. I've seen this style before and soulless is exactly right. just like mobile game graphics.
Question, in the design room how large can the custom maps be? I have only seen 15x10 but can you make custom maps larger than that?
From what I’ve heard you can make maps that are larger than in the originals, but if you want to be able to upload your map online then you gotta make it smaller than before.
@Mr. xD I've seen it say online ok for maps with a 17 length size, so I guess we'll have to wait and see
@@Joetaku666 well according to some leaks the maximum size for an online map is 15x20. That is in line with what you saw and it is pretty significantly smaller than what the originals allowed in their map editor, which was limited to 20x30.
I hope they expanded this, but in all honesty even if they went up to the originals maximum map size for online play it would still be severely worse than what AW:BW offers.
Not to mention that it is highly likely online play will be limited to 1v1s. The latest trailer mentioned online play with "a friend" rather than "friends", heavily implying this to be the case.
I just hope they got a matchmaking system in place that balances CO matchups properly, otherwise this games online scene is going to die out to Sturm / Hachi spam rather quickly.
I'm definitely on your side. With the original art upscaled, it was a day one purchase; With this soulless (you said it!) vanilla 3D models, i'm gonna need a lot of convincing.
It frustrates me how Nintendo spurns pixel art. The GBA Advance Wars art is fantastic and this 3D artstyle is such a downgrade in comparison, imo.
Agreed. Imagine if they had licensed the Square Enix HD-2D pixel art for this remake? That, plus some new story angles and the online mode, would have been something so much more immediately appealing to fans of the GBA original.
I just want to know if they recreated the intro of AW2. I really love that part of the game.
in the design room, can you use black hole hq... etc, black hole units?
I hope so!
yo Matt, your voice is very much missed around here, hope you're going alright
Yes.
No, it sucks.