It's been bought and sold a few times now, but somehow survived... One of the oldest photography sites and sharing platforms still exists, still remains photographer biased... For now... Flickr! Shoutout to those who buck the trend
I was thinking to join the Photomator world couple of weeks ago, then came the acquisition announcement. Now struggling whether to go ahead for a lifetime plan and see when an OS update will kill or to go for other options like ON1/Camerabag. On the ON1 free trials, a bit of mix as sometimes, the AI things seems overcooked and sometimes look weird, sky swap AI also make me feel, am I creating an image or enhancing my image :).
I hear you - there's definitely a thin line between post-processing and compositing. Luminar Neo takes it too far but I think you can stay the right side of the line with On1 to a greater degree.
For Photomator, a "lifetime" subscription might work. I won't call it a lifetime license, since it relies on the app remaining listed on the app store and still working in the next few macOS updates, so that you can get maybe 3 years worth of your purchase. Main downside, beyond the risk of the app going away, is that Photomator was still a fairly young product (compared to Pixelmator) and needs more polish and a few more features IMHO. Its RAW engine and development algorithms are alright, but not best in class (Lightroom, Capture One and DxO PhotoLab are ahead). Some possible alternatives: - Nitro by Gentlemen Coders (a one-man shop) - DxO PhotoLab (a bit pricey, but maybe more palatable with the current Black Friday offer)
I am, unfortunately, quite allergic to craft or microbrewery beers. I'm not sure what's different about them compared to the mass-produced stuff from the big breweries but it gives me a terrible anaphylaxis reaction - wine as well - particularly fizzy wine. You can't move for small breweries round here - they kicked off during Covid and now there's heaps of them dotted all the way down the coastline.
There's still a chance that Pixelmator Pro will remain and will even be expanded upon by Apple, like Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. But I have less hope for Photomator, which has too much overlap with Apple's own Photos app. I expect we'll see a few things from Photomator end up in Photos, while development of Photomator is paused and the app will be delisted on the app store after some time.
Thanks for the video. Entertaining as always. It is a bit of a shame, although sometimes the apps get support. I worked at a tiny software company that got acquired by a medium sized company (for talent and proprietary information) that finally got acquired by Microsoft (for the products). The product is still healthy (Visio) and still lives in the Microsoft Office division. I also got to watch a few acquisitions (my company acquiring another) along the way with mostly all negative results in the end - but we did get some stellar talent. Adobe also had a few acquisitions while I was there (Macromedia was one of them...). You're right of course, it's rarely good for the product and virtually never good news for the customers.
DXO is not that big and quite good. The app called Nitro is a very small company and is actually similar to Photomator, and even better in many ways although not in all areas. There are several others I believe.
I think you have picked the wrong acquisition to make this video around. From the industry chatter, Apple have been closely collaborating with and nurturing that company for a few years and are absorbing it to fill the professional gap they created when they killed off Aperture, as well as capitalising on the current exodus from Adobe products after their TOS changes (which are the reason that my company cannot use Photoshop and more and moved to Pixelmator Pro).
That's the outcome we're all hoping for - but Apple's history of app acquisitions is public record. Check out the list on Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Apple) and you'll find that not a single one of the 100 or so that they've bought still exist. I think we're all hoping that this is some kind of re-emergence of Aperture, but based on how they've been in the past, it's far more likely that some of the features in Pixelmator/Photomator will live on ... but not much else.
@@Andyhutchinson I'm going to look at the list only since Tim took the helm, and pretty much everything since then either still exists or wasn't a direct to consumer product in the first place.
Every time I see something get bought by a major corporation or private equity....I say my goodbyes and move along.
Yep.
It's been bought and sold a few times now, but somehow survived...
One of the oldest photography sites and sharing platforms still exists, still remains photographer biased... For now...
Flickr!
Shoutout to those who buck the trend
I came very close to renewing my Pro membership on Flickr the other day - I may yet - I do appreciate survivors.
I was thinking to join the Photomator world couple of weeks ago, then came the acquisition announcement. Now struggling whether to go ahead for a lifetime plan and see when an OS update will kill or to go for other options like ON1/Camerabag. On the ON1 free trials, a bit of mix as sometimes, the AI things seems overcooked and sometimes look weird, sky swap AI also make me feel, am I creating an image or enhancing my image :).
I hear you - there's definitely a thin line between post-processing and compositing. Luminar Neo takes it too far but I think you can stay the right side of the line with On1 to a greater degree.
For Photomator, a "lifetime" subscription might work. I won't call it a lifetime license, since it relies on the app remaining listed on the app store and still working in the next few macOS updates, so that you can get maybe 3 years worth of your purchase. Main downside, beyond the risk of the app going away, is that Photomator was still a fairly young product (compared to Pixelmator) and needs more polish and a few more features IMHO. Its RAW engine and development algorithms are alright, but not best in class (Lightroom, Capture One and DxO PhotoLab are ahead).
Some possible alternatives:
- Nitro by Gentlemen Coders (a one-man shop)
- DxO PhotoLab (a bit pricey, but maybe more palatable with the current Black Friday offer)
You could do an almost identical video on the craft beer industry.
I am, unfortunately, quite allergic to craft or microbrewery beers. I'm not sure what's different about them compared to the mass-produced stuff from the big breweries but it gives me a terrible anaphylaxis reaction - wine as well - particularly fizzy wine. You can't move for small breweries round here - they kicked off during Covid and now there's heaps of them dotted all the way down the coastline.
This is why I 'root' my Android devices. If a developer pushes out an update I don't like, I can roll it back, turn off auto-update for that app.
Nice.
There's still a chance that Pixelmator Pro will remain and will even be expanded upon by Apple, like Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro.
But I have less hope for Photomator, which has too much overlap with Apple's own Photos app. I expect we'll see a few things from Photomator end up in Photos, while development of Photomator is paused and the app will be delisted on the app store after some time.
If I was a betting man then I'd say the same. Everyone's hanging on a new Aperture and maybe, just maybe, we'll get it.
Maybe Apple Photos will become like Aperture was and we can ditch Adobe.
That would be best case scenario :)
Thanks for the video. Entertaining as always. It is a bit of a shame, although sometimes the apps get support. I worked at a tiny software company that got acquired by a medium sized company (for talent and proprietary information) that finally got acquired by Microsoft (for the products). The product is still healthy (Visio) and still lives in the Microsoft Office division. I also got to watch a few acquisitions (my company acquiring another) along the way with mostly all negative results in the end - but we did get some stellar talent. Adobe also had a few acquisitions while I was there (Macromedia was one of them...). You're right of course, it's rarely good for the product and virtually never good news for the customers.
I hope the reason for this one is that they're going to take eg local edits and stuff from Photomator and add it to Apple Photos but who knows
Yep - it's anyone's guess really. It might disappear completely, we might see bits of it appearing in Photos, we might get a new Aperture.
Is it possible the Apple need a replacement for the now long dead Aperture?
That would be the best outcome from this.
Andy laying the law !
lol - thanks mate :)
App-solutely nothing will change… love it✌️
lol - app-solutely correct :)
Who are the little guys now in Photo editing that I can support?
Camerabag Photo, Luminar Neo, Dark Table (open source), Gimp (open source), Acorn (Mac only), PhotoLine, Movavi Photo, Ashampoo Photo, On1 PhotoRAW, Exposure X7, Widsmob Retoucher, Franzis Color Projects are all independent developers.
DXO is not that big and quite good. The app called Nitro is a very small company and is actually similar to Photomator, and even better in many ways although not in all areas. There are several others I believe.
Thanks mate - knew I'd forget a couple!
ON1 or DXO
@@AndyhutchinsonNitro and Darkroom worth checking out. Though neither I like quite as much as Photomator.
I think you have picked the wrong acquisition to make this video around. From the industry chatter, Apple have been closely collaborating with and nurturing that company for a few years and are absorbing it to fill the professional gap they created when they killed off Aperture, as well as capitalising on the current exodus from Adobe products after their TOS changes (which are the reason that my company cannot use Photoshop and more and moved to Pixelmator Pro).
That's the outcome we're all hoping for - but Apple's history of app acquisitions is public record. Check out the list on Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Apple) and you'll find that not a single one of the 100 or so that they've bought still exist. I think we're all hoping that this is some kind of re-emergence of Aperture, but based on how they've been in the past, it's far more likely that some of the features in Pixelmator/Photomator will live on ... but not much else.
@@Andyhutchinson I'm going to look at the list only since Tim took the helm, and pretty much everything since then either still exists or wasn't a direct to consumer product in the first place.
Dark Sky was Cored (Apple) rather than Zucked.
lol! Very true.
Enjoyed
Cheers :)
Every word absolutely spot on! 👍🏾 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
Thanks mate :)
Bought iPad Photomator just 10 days ago...🤣
And look, you may get years of use from it, everything is guesswork at the moment. :)