@@VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT and it's funny too.... my mom couldn't really stomach the slimy monsters and the kill scenes from "Deep Rising", but yet, the decapitations in this movie didn't make her sick
Unless I'm mistaken, I thino the darkness might have something to do with a bad transfer. I say this because that's exactly what happened to Godzilla 2014: in the theaters, you could see in the darkness pretty well, but on blu ray, good lord, you're lucky if you can see OUTLINES! I think Good Bad Flicks discussed the issue in more detail on his video. It's a shame, because it seems to take away from what appears to be a really cool movie. Unlike AVP:R, which has a similar darkness problem but no one seems to like the movie anyway.
that sounds about right. I also saw that video as well. the Blu-Ray tho is the closest we'll get, so far, to the theatrical version which from what I've heard was a little brighter. hopefully they can make another release and finally fix that issue. otherwise tho I love this movie
FlyingFocs avp sucked because they tried to rely on the predator wolf to steal the movie. He was definitely the best predator but the plot was very poor. This movie the relic however has a great plot, great creature and perfect co star Tom Sizemore. To me the darkness in this film made it more suspenseful and scary. But that’s just me 🤷♂️
@@bounty367 I am agree with you with the dark ambience. The film uses the formula from the original Alien where the monster is vaguely shown in order to focus on the victims and how they are being hunted down making you wonder who will be the next or how they will die, being defenseless against a predator they cannot see nor understand at all; in fact, the Xenomorph in the first Alien film is supposed to only have about 4 minutes of screen time due this fact. The Relic actually is one of my favorite monster movie from all time, plus I love the design of the Kothoga
I don’t understand why this movie is so underrated. The darkness in this film fits the plot and makes the movie more scary and suspenseful. Barely seeing the creature kinda adds to the fear factor a bit
LOL, I was going to comment that this movie is too dark and someone needs to turn the lights on.... and then came the text at the end and made that kind of redundant. Still, for 1997 thats some mint special effects! Theres another movie im gonna have to add to my must see list :) Keep up the awesome work you two! Your "killing" it with these vids..... pun TOTALLY intended ;)
@N. Shadow holy poop shoot, that is something I never thought I would see, considering I dont really post stuff. Thank you, my new fave person lol. I hope I get to talk to you more, in a strange way, you just made my day! :)
if you do intend to check out The Relic I'd recommend getting the Blu-Ray since out of all the releases so far it's the closest to the version that was shown in theaters. reason I mention this is because that version was not as dark as the later releases.
@@Armageddon-yt3so oooh, thank you for the info, I will indeed go for the bluray, I was gonna just get the dvd but im very thankful for you letting me know about that! :) much appreciated!
An underrated jewel. The way that rescue team gets turned into chow is pretty brutal and graphic, scared me shitless the first time I saw it. I loved this movie, thanks for the count!
I freaking love this movie. I'm watching when I get home from work. They need to bring the kothoga back dude. Reboot or remake with a sequel. Thanks carnage count for another movie request. How did you like it??? Would you root for a sequel or remake?? Thanks Stan Winston for this amazingly brutal creature.
This movie is based on a book that did have a sequel called reliquary. Both books are worth a read, but it would be hard for them to do the sequel based on some of the cinematic choices they made for for the movie. Still an awesome watch.
Maybe someone could bring in Guillermo Del Toro to give the Kothoga new life in the remake or sequel. But yeah I wish this monster had a second chance at the big screen. 😊
The reason why CC that The Relic was filmed dark: the director wants to tap into our fears of being afraid of the dark. Look at Alien, Ridley Scott filmed the intense alien scenes in the dark. Three reasons why The Relic is great: 1. Stan Winson's monstrous effects; 2. Peter Hyams' direction and killer cinematography; & 3. The f-king Kathuga. Any questions?
AWESOME movie monster! Love the weird jaws, how it eats (I mean, eating the brain stem only? That's new!), how it came to be, the sounds it makes, it's very iconic!
what scared me (still does) the most about the kothoga is how brutal your death was going to be, brutalized like a rag doll before that thing grabbed your head to rip it out open, like being mauled by a nasty pitbull-crocodile-roach hybrid the size of a rhino
Saw this when i was 6 and didnt know what it was called, could only remember seeing the kothoga with the guys head in its tusks, and the bit and the end when it gets destroyed... only found out the name of the movie by chance today!
It’s been said by other people quicker and funnier than I am that it’s probably just as well that Kothoga didn’t run into Linda Hunt. After all, if she can successfully turn Ahnold into a quivering bundle of fright, what chance does a brain-junkie monster have? Another fun fact: Kothoga’s death in the book was very different. And I think, much cooler. It’s skull is thick enough to deflect bullets, but the detective gets a lucky shot (with the lucky bullet), and hits it in the eye. The bullet then ricochets inside the skull and turns the brain to mush. Boom, dead. At least, that’s what I remember.
the original script for the movie has the same scenario, but the main difference is that it wasn't D'Agosta who fired the lucky shot, but it was FBI Agent Pendergast who uses a high-powered rifle with a laser-sight to shoot the creature in the eye.
One thing that bugs me about this movie is that they keep referring to the monster as the Kothoga, when that's not what it's called in the book. In the book, the creature was called the Mbwun (which translated means "He who Walks on All Fours"). Not to mention, in the book, the monster's design was much simpler, looking more like a reptilian gorilla.
If there was a movie about a guy that kidnaps girls and takes them in his 5945473 chamber and turns out he's a guy with tentacles with arms that would be amazing
I just finished the book and didn’t know there was a movie made, checked this video out because I was curious how the kill scenes were handled. The swat team being slaughtered wasn’t shown on page, and maybe that was for the better because here they were stupid af lmao
I love reading a book and finding out later there was a movie way back. Literally just learned there is a movie adaption of The Wind in the Willows, I'm stoked
Carnage Counts yah I did like a 10 foot dragon that has fire it’s really cool and this prop was standing still and he sprints at you it’s scared me to death but it was really fun I love getting scared but not that much because I’m 13 but it’s fun to get scared And I’m going to my first ever hanted house maze on Saturday night
There are 2 more deaths that I can’t seem to find anywhere.. the old rich couple who Greg was sucking up to that stayed behind when they all went into the tunnels, I swear it showed them dead in the cinema when I watched it!!!
if you mean the Blaidesdales, it was rumored that a scene was filmed where the Kothoga rampaged through the museum further and and killed the Blaidesdales. It was said that an old article from Fangoria magazine had a shot in there that supposedly confirmed them to being killed. But since I haven't seen this article for myself and don't know if it actually exists or not, i'm only taking that as that, a rumor!!!
My freind the reason theres never light cause that ruins the fear yes the kills are scary but when you can clesrly see it its not scary what makes it also scary is when they do the kill its barely seen untell its reveled in the light. It soppouse to show that even in a safe place like a museum can be dangoures the monster would of been killed easily if was seen witch is why when so much light was shown and it was a grest finish cuase the creature was out of its element. Small monsters like that belong in the dark big monsters are different there scary no matter the shade of light. But you have to agree it was a good movie that sadly never got a sequel but i do agree they could of at least let us see the kills a little better like slasher films... but it was a good movie non the less :)
I’m really sick of these monster movie stuff it’s too cliche like An extremely hungry monster who Eats constantly Death of unimportant character Monster getting blown up The last person always survives an explosion Like FFS why don’t they just think of something new and yeah same thing with superhero movies
Kothoga's wheezing always creeped me out as a kid.
ikr. still does to this day for me. 'shudders'
One human characteristic of it thats really creepy
What freaked me out was the part where the Kothoga was running through the office hall, smashing all the doors while chasing Dr. Green.
The whole scene freaked me out lol 😂
@@VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT and it's funny too....
my mom couldn't really stomach the slimy monsters and the kill scenes from "Deep Rising", but yet, the decapitations in this movie didn't make her sick
This movie scared the hell out of me as a kid!
The Kothoga looked like the ancestor of the Predator
well considering that the late great Stan Winston designed both the Predator AND the Kothoga, I can understand the comparison
I wish I could see this thing being adopted by the predator clan. That thing would be the best pet for them.
Unless I'm mistaken, I thino the darkness might have something to do with a bad transfer. I say this because that's exactly what happened to Godzilla 2014: in the theaters, you could see in the darkness pretty well, but on blu ray, good lord, you're lucky if you can see OUTLINES! I think Good Bad Flicks discussed the issue in more detail on his video.
It's a shame, because it seems to take away from what appears to be a really cool movie. Unlike AVP:R, which has a similar darkness problem but no one seems to like the movie anyway.
that sounds about right. I also saw that video as well. the Blu-Ray tho is the closest we'll get, so far, to the theatrical version which from what I've heard was a little brighter. hopefully they can make another release and finally fix that issue. otherwise tho I love this movie
FlyingFocs avp sucked because they tried to rely on the predator wolf to steal the movie. He was definitely the best predator but the plot was very poor. This movie the relic however has a great plot, great creature and perfect co star Tom Sizemore. To me the darkness in this film made it more suspenseful and scary. But that’s just me 🤷♂️
@@bounty367 I am agree with you with the dark ambience. The film uses the formula from the original Alien where the monster is vaguely shown in order to focus on the victims and how they are being hunted down making you wonder who will be the next or how they will die, being defenseless against a predator they cannot see nor understand at all; in fact, the Xenomorph in the first Alien film is supposed to only have about 4 minutes of screen time due this fact. The Relic actually is one of my favorite monster movie from all time, plus I love the design of the Kothoga
This Kothoga creature was brought to the big screen by Stan Winston. R.I.P.
I don’t understand why this movie is so underrated. The darkness in this film fits the plot and makes the movie more scary and suspenseful. Barely seeing the creature kinda adds to the fear factor a bit
Why can't they make good monster movies like this now? Sick of all those slasher flicks.
90's movies are so awesome. Bring back the old days of movies.
This was a good monster movie. A little dated and i wish the dogs lived but still neat monster design.
Where's an army of Klingon Warriors when you need them?
Only 1 dog died. The other lived.
Yeah the other dog lived
You are the best at doing carnage counts
Thanks Caleb!
It was much later that I read the books Relic and Reliquary. Equally amazing!
1:05 Poor Doggy. 🐕 🥺😭 🥀
I think it was only one that died not the other
The Relic is one of masterpiece at his time.
Looks like the predalien’s mutant child
LOL, I was going to comment that this movie is too dark and someone needs to turn the lights on.... and then came the text at the end and made that kind of redundant. Still, for 1997 thats some mint special effects! Theres another movie im gonna have to add to my must see list :) Keep up the awesome work you two! Your "killing" it with these vids..... pun TOTALLY intended ;)
@N. Shadow hells yes gir, he is my hero lol.
Zim: "Gir why is there bacon in the soap"?
Gir: "Because I made it myself"
Oh damn I miss that show!
@N. Shadow holy poop shoot, that is something I never thought I would see, considering I dont really post stuff. Thank you, my new fave person lol. I hope I get to talk to you more, in a strange way, you just made my day! :)
@N. Shadow also, say hello to your 59th subscriber ;)
if you do intend to check out The Relic I'd recommend getting the Blu-Ray since out of all the releases so far it's the closest to the version that was shown in theaters. reason I mention this is because that version was not as dark as the later releases.
@@Armageddon-yt3so oooh, thank you for the info, I will indeed go for the bluray, I was gonna just get the dvd but im very thankful for you letting me know about that! :) much appreciated!
do sphere (1998), virus (1998) and Q the winged serpent I love these monsters
Yay! My wish came true!
This movie was scary as hell, so does the monster!
0:21 Smoke in Toliet.
0:29 Hand Monster.
0:34, 0:35-0:37, 0:38 Haunting Shooting
1:16-1:17 Suicide Fall.
1:24 Scary Girl.
1:27-1:28 Scary Another Girl.
1:41-1:42 Lion Eating.
1:50-1:52 Falcon Punch!
2:02-2:04 Stock Scream.
3:22-3:36 Explosion.
3:47 Rest in Peace Monster.
An underrated jewel. The way that rescue team gets turned into chow is pretty brutal and graphic, scared me shitless the first time I saw it.
I loved this movie, thanks for the count!
I freaking love this movie. I'm watching when I get home from work. They need to bring the kothoga back dude. Reboot or remake with a sequel. Thanks carnage count for another movie request. How did you like it??? Would you root for a sequel or remake?? Thanks Stan Winston for this amazingly brutal creature.
This movie is based on a book that did have a sequel called reliquary. Both books are worth a read, but it would be hard for them to do the sequel based on some of the cinematic choices they made for for the movie. Still an awesome watch.
@@gustavus007 I almost read the books myself but I didn't have the time too. Honestly, they just need to go from this film to make the sequel.
If they did remake it, I think they should do it closer to the book.
Maybe someone could bring in Guillermo Del Toro to give the Kothoga new life in the remake or sequel. But yeah I wish this monster had a second chance at the big screen. 😊
The reason why CC that The Relic was filmed dark: the director wants to tap into our fears of being afraid of the dark. Look at Alien, Ridley Scott filmed the intense alien scenes in the dark. Three reasons why The Relic is great: 1. Stan Winson's monstrous effects; 2. Peter Hyams' direction and killer cinematography; & 3. The f-king Kathuga. Any questions?
@Anna Carson actually, Peter Hyams is a fairly decent director, as he directed "2010" and the Sean Connery actioner "Outland"
Thanks carnage count, this movie has the idea of not seeing the terror too well.
AWESOME movie monster! Love the weird jaws, how it eats (I mean, eating the brain stem only? That's new!), how it came to be, the sounds it makes, it's very iconic!
God what an awesome monster design.
i'm shocked at how well the CGI/practical effects have aged!
To be honest the cgi in this film are so realistic. No cartoonish or pixelated effect on that creature nor that corpse dead bodies.
True.. They combine minimal cgi with claw stopmotion During that era
So there is mode realism than current cgi
Could you do The Avengers (1998)? (with Ralph Fiennes, Uma Thurman, Sean Connery, Eddie Izzard, Fiona Shaw, Eileen Atkins & Jim Broadbent).
Trying to think of some more spoopy classic you can do. Anybody got any ideas? Or you could do another Top 10 Eliminations.
Hopefully planning on doing another Top Ten next Friday!
This monster is like a predator lion.
what scared me (still does) the most about the kothoga is how brutal your death was going to be, brutalized like a rag doll before that thing grabbed your head to rip it out open, like being mauled by a nasty pitbull-crocodile-roach hybrid the size of a rhino
I LOVE THIS MOVIE!
Nostalgia here bro. I haven't seen this since I was a kid nice upload :)
Missed the bug part
Gwoemul from The Host vs Kathoga from The Relic who you got
Tough one
Saw this when i was 6 and didnt know what it was called, could only remember seeing the kothoga with the guys head in its tusks, and the bit and the end when it gets destroyed... only found out the name of the movie by chance today!
It’s been said by other people quicker and funnier than I am that it’s probably just as well that Kothoga didn’t run into Linda Hunt. After all, if she can successfully turn Ahnold into a quivering bundle of fright, what chance does a brain-junkie monster have?
Another fun fact: Kothoga’s death in the book was very different. And I think, much cooler. It’s skull is thick enough to deflect bullets, but the detective gets a lucky shot (with the lucky bullet), and hits it in the eye. The bullet then ricochets inside the skull and turns the brain to mush. Boom, dead.
At least, that’s what I remember.
the original script for the movie has the same scenario, but the main difference is that it wasn't D'Agosta who fired the lucky shot, but it was FBI Agent Pendergast who uses a high-powered rifle with a laser-sight to shoot the creature in the eye.
You forgot the mutant beetle
do skyscraper next
One thing that bugs me about this movie is that they keep referring to the monster as the Kothoga, when that's not what it's called in the book. In the book, the creature was called the Mbwun (which translated means "He who Walks on All Fours"). Not to mention, in the book, the monster's design was much simpler, looking more like a reptilian gorilla.
oh yeah baby!! btw can you do prophecy (1979)?
Love the monster in this movie, but my favorite part is counting all the stock sound effects and screams they put into this thing.
This movie gave me a nightmare yesterday
I can see why
I think there was a reason for the lack of lights, but I can't remember why... Though I still enjoyed this movie and the book it was based off.
camera problems, perhaps?
There’s blood everywhere Carnage!
I love this movie could watch it over and over again hihi
Alwsys had good memories about this movie... please, can you do the REC series?
Why 90s movie is so damn good
If there was a movie about a guy that kidnaps girls and takes them in his 5945473 chamber and turns out he's a guy with tentacles with arms that would be amazing
Good Job again Stranger.You know the Director's Sam Peckinpah and John Woo? Please make us Happy.Greetings from Germany
It looks like feral version of Predator
well considering the late great Stan Winston worked on both movies, it's understandable and makes sense
Could I suggest doing the film Mimic? directed by Gullimero Del Toro. It featured Josh Brolin aka Thanos himself.
Good job on your videos
But can someone give this studio some more flashlight its dark i cant see much
The beast
Might also want to do a stock sound effect count for this one
How come that a Movie Made 1997 is Way better than newer Monster movies😒
I just finished the book and didn’t know there was a movie made, checked this video out because I was curious how the kill scenes were handled. The swat team being slaughtered wasn’t shown on page, and maybe that was for the better because here they were stupid af lmao
I love reading a book and finding out later there was a movie way back. Literally just learned there is a movie adaption of The Wind in the Willows, I'm stoked
Love this movie
Thanks
Where did the little woman die? I didn't see her in this count?
Hay carnage count I just went to a Halloween store I had fun well I hope u have a good night
And I love this movie
Did you see anything cool at the Halloween store?!
Carnage Counts yah I did like a 10 foot dragon that has fire it’s really cool and this prop was standing still and he sprints at you it’s scared me to death but it was really fun I love getting scared but not that much because I’m 13 but it’s fun to get scared
And I’m going to my first ever hanted house maze on Saturday night
SabrePredator... 8)
Gave me nightmares for a whole week.
I had this in vhs. It was very bright.
Great monster flick here!
Why am i watching this at 11:54 PM
1:20 AM
Because why not
Probably not a good idea
Kothoga had 14 out of the 20 kills in this movie. It’s best if you don’t fuck with him
I appreciate you liking my comment, carnage counts!
Richie Aprile never had the makings of a security guard
I would like to tell you all that this video was uploaded on my Birthday.
The creature is strange but good for a horror movie!
R.I.P. swat team 😭
My favorite monster movie✌️
thank-you upload(*- -)(*_ _)ﾍﾟｺﾘ
im excited for dead rising endgame killcount to come out
I think this Carnage Count is one I wasn’t able to see. Anyways that lizard thing sure liked to decapitate a lot didn’t it?
Yes, it did!
Kothoga: Here we GOOOO
The most inept SWAT team in history.
The reason this movie was dark is cause it seem no one was going to survive
Do Ice Spiders!
There are 2 more deaths that I can’t seem to find anywhere.. the old rich couple who Greg was sucking up to that stayed behind when they all went into the tunnels, I swear it showed them dead in the cinema when I watched it!!!
if you mean the Blaidesdales, it was rumored that a scene was filmed where the Kothoga rampaged through the museum further and and killed the Blaidesdales. It was said that an old article from Fangoria magazine had a shot in there that supposedly confirmed them to being killed. But since I haven't seen this article for myself and don't know if it actually exists or not, i'm only taking that as that, a rumor!!!
This is based on a novel, if someone doesn't know. The first of the Pendergast saga.
A fantastic series I was obsessed with in high school.
@@trevorkoehn1992 , there are 14 books rigth now, if I'm not counting wrong.
I think they're up to 18, which means I'm behind 7 books. My brother still keeps up on them.
Finally the good stuff
Is this monster photosensitive or did not have so much budget?
Deaths in Mobile Suit Gundam?
I'm going to delete my channel but don't worry when i get it back...
There's going to be CARNAGE😈😈😈
So much carnage!
@@CarnageCounts NO I MET CARNAGE THE MONSTER 👾👾😈😈🔥🔥
Oh, I'm so sorry for misunderstanding Mr. President UA-cam. My apologies
Have you seen the Venom movie yet Mr. President?
@@CarnageCounts HAHAHAHAHAHA NOT... YEEEEEET 😈👾😈👾🔪🔥
Watched this movie today
I still can't wrap my head around what the hell this thing even is.
@Iblis König Love too if I could
You should do truth or dare the 2017 one
can u do top 10 Texas chainsaw massacre kills
Predator after birth
This movie is almost as dark as AVP: Requiem
I LOVE THAT MOVIE😍😍😍
Unfairly forgotten and underrated movie...
Nice
*why can't monsters in movies attack with the lights on?*
*Because that's what slasher villians are for.*
My freind the reason theres never light cause that ruins the fear yes the kills are scary but when you can clesrly see it its not scary what makes it also scary is when they do the kill its barely seen untell its reveled in the light. It soppouse to show that even in a safe place like a museum can be dangoures the monster would of been killed easily if was seen witch is why when so much light was shown and it was a grest finish cuase the creature was out of its element. Small monsters like that belong in the dark big monsters are different there scary no matter the shade of light. But you have to agree it was a good movie that sadly never got a sequel but i do agree they could of at least let us see the kills a little better like slasher films... but it was a good movie non the less :)
I know something that rest of you don't know. The Koyhoga's real name is John Whitney
Julian Whittlesey, actually, if you want to go by the source material.
I waited for a Anime to Corpse Count I’ll wait!
Akira, Mononoke princess, Devilman?
James Jaguar Yes! And by 1987!
@@eriklopez5408 Vampire hunter D
James Jaguar oh my bad 🤗
@@eriklopez5408 wasn't a correction no worries, just another movie suggestion.
I’m really sick of these monster movie stuff it’s too cliche like
An extremely hungry monster who Eats constantly
Death of unimportant character
Monster getting blown up
The last person always survives an explosion
Like FFS why don’t they just think of something new and yeah same thing with superhero movies
LORD OSA ikr its fucking dumb and you see it from a mile away.
If you woke up from a looooonnnng sleep or somehow ended up on a strange planet, wouldn't you be really damn hungry and homicidal???
Jacob A no I would just eat 3 or 4 snacks it’s enough not a chunks of 24 people
LORD OSA I’m sick of u
@@Spider10v that's why you wouldn't get your own movie.
2:04 yowie scream
Do Deep star six or leviathan
We'll add it to the list, fran zamor!
Best movie monster in my opinion
I love your channel