"Even if centuries pass, everyone will know - a father killed his own son." Say what you want about Mahidevran, but she was right. Her son died on the altar of Suleiman's Sultanate. But it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't just a ruler executing a rebellious subject. It was a father who murdered his very own son and not even 5 centuries later, was the fact forgotten.
Did she tho?? I watched the episode where Hatice set Hurrem up and she was taken while trying to get to Selim recently and it dawned on me. Mahidevran knew what was going on, she also knew her son would be blamed and she did nothing to warn Mustafa. As a mother who loves her child I would’ve never let something like that happen, no matter how much so hated Hurrem. This caused a riff between father and son.
There was nothing strong in her blllablla, she showed she is 🤡 as always blaming others in her unhappiness, when she was the one who killled Mehmed! Lmao!
Pain of losing an angel like child. Sad you liers has nothing to prove mahi bad, except a half truth serial which shows her in dark light, to justify devil hurrem
@@rachealmuhambi3582 but that's too much in islam to accept your mistakes and bad deeds and then repent to Allah! That's enough to please the almighty amd everybody! And hurrem sultana did that! 🔥❤ nobody else was too guilty they all were shameless
I agree admitting and repenting of your sins is always the best you can do to make it right with our Almighty God. May we all remember to ask for forgiveness from our fellow men and God!
Very powerful scene between Mahidervan and Suleiman and great acting in the end nobody truly won because power in the end took something from each person
Frederick Douglass said it best; Power concedes nothing without demand; it never has & never will. These two, like others before them & since them, only see this too late.
Everyone who says that mahidevran is responsible for Mustafa's death .... I'm asking you to not take away the blame from the only and true culprit , which is Sultan Suleiman Nothing can justify killing your own son , there's a thousand alternative And he didn't verify the truth until after the execution...... Some of you will blame Hurrem , mahidevran or even Mustafa himself....but nobody forced the Sultan to kill his own sons , he is the only master of his decision and action ... I'm not a fan of mahidevran's Character , and she may be responsible for some of her son's flaws , but I wouldn't blame her in that situation , and I wouldn't victimise her either , she wasn't strong enough and was too much blinded by her desires of revenge . But the main responsible is the ruler himself !
@@thakurrohit65 I'm talking about this series , Who ever mentioned history ? We all noticed that this show is not really accurate but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy it or analyse it . So please be more respectful next time . And if you could keep your history facts to yourself I would be grateful .
Yes!! I hate show Suleiman soooo much if I were Mahidevran I would have poisoned him 100 times already😠😠😠 Mahidevran’s greatest flaw is not evil it’s not being ruthless and smart enough, she should have poisoned the evil revolting Sultan!! Instead of wasting her time with Hurrem
Remember one ☝️ thing if yu Dug hole 🕳 for sm1 then Great allah will fall yu in this Hole 🕳 & what goes Around Come Around..! When God wants Sm1 to Live nothing work on them nor poison ☠️ or anything ..! So just chill Aunty 💖
I'm glad she finally realised the real culprit behind the death of her son. For once, she blamed the right person for her misfortunes. Since she has a penchant for blaming Hurrem for everything bad that happens to her. But this time, she rightfully placed the blame at the right door. Suleiman killed Mustafa to protect his throne due to his own insecurities. It had little to nothing to do with Hurrem. Yes, she benefitted from that decision to secure the lives of her children, but that doesn't make Hurrem the reason Mustafa died. Try as she may, she couldn't have been able to successfully manipulate Suleiman to kill Mustafa, if it wasn't something he wanted to do himself. But history tends to blame women for bad decisions men make. It's a shame.
Godlive No doubt Hurrem was guilty too Was it not Hurrem who lied by saying Mustafa was in alliance with Shah of Persia to overthrow Sulaiaman. Was it not Mihrimah who stole Mustafa's seal? Was it not Hurrrwn was behind the murder of Mustafa's concubine? Was it not
@@ankaramahi3008 hope u felt better calling me an "idiot" over a tv show with actors playing characters. I'm sure your life suddenly became great and all your depression left you after writing that comment.
It was Hurrem who first tried to kill Mustafa even before Mahidevran killed Mehmed. Hurrem sent Efsun Hatun to become Mustafa's favorite and she put poison in his food much before Mehmed was killed by Mahidevran. Mahidevran on the other hand once saved Mehmed from drowning in the pond in the palace gardens when he was a toddler.
Exactly. Every one just want to act like hurrem is all innocent. Plus mahidevran aborted her second child because of psychological pressure caused by hurrem and only after that she tried to poison Hurrem so she aborts her child too. Which wasn't successful. Plus she saved Mehmet one when there was no need to. But hurrem tried to kill Mustafa numerous times even before mahidevran killed Mehmet.
Please upload the next part of this scene where Suleiman recites the poem he wrote for Mustafa Halit Ergenc is simply phenomenal in this recitation!! Interesting Fact: The poem was really written by Suleiaman under his pen name Muhibi
Y’all saying Mahidevran never admits to her mistakes (which is true) but when does Suleiman? He deserves to hear al these words. ‘The future of the Ottoman Empire lies in a cold coffin’ yikes. And for what suleiman? He killed his son for power greed and wealth. He’s the worst person in the entire show. At least mahidevran killed mehmet to protect mustafa.
Hahahahaha! Suleiman was the greatest Sultan and Magnificent! He killed Traiitorr Mustafa! And Mahidervan killled Mehmed for poweerr and greed! Mehmed was the smartest, sweetest and most innocent Sehzade! He would never hurrt his brothers everrr!
Hahahahahha! The future of Ottomans was Mehmed and Mahidevran killled him for her greed and powerr hunger! She said herself she wanted to be Valide Sultan! She even poiisoned pregnant Hurrem and plottted Hurrem’s deathh to kill her children! Suleiman killed Mustafaf for his liies! Mustafa openly defied and ignored orders of Suleiman multiple times, lied on many things-including his wedding. He also threattened Hurrem many times, he was also aware that his allies formed a secret group aiming to dethrone Suleiman and he gave them gifts and monney, instead of doing something. Sulleiman warned him many times to stop crossing the line- watch episode 100, but Musfafa still continued being rebbbell. So he got his end! Get over it!
Suleiman was best sultan! He was MAGNIFICENT! And Mustafa was liiiar, mannipulated by Mahidervan! She killed Mehmed for her greed of power! She said herself- she wanted to become Valide Sultana! So agaiin🤌🏼🤫🤫
This scene was epic truly epic . These actors are out of this world . Anyone with a heart could relate with the pain of mahidevran . I know some will say she deserved it bla bla bla but still. What a powerful scene . " Future of ottomans is lying in a cold dark coffin " . Sad 😢😢😢😢
And she not have some doubt. Mehmet and Mustafa were the most talented Suleiman's son, more the first. Bayezid was talented but don't have intelligence. In the end the Sultan is one that think to drink more of Sultanate and her wife that broken the happy family of her son
@@ramn_bennington and Selim II was a drunkard fool, with absolute no talent, intelligence or any interess for state affairs. No doubt the decline of the empire started with him.
Reminded me of the scene of the 19 coffins being taken out after one Brother killed all his rivals to the throne. The seeds started with Suleiman's Father...
@@virginiaalo7434 in real life, she never saw the Sultan again after being sent to Manisa. So she never got a chance to tell the Sultan how she feels. I think it's great this added this to the show. I just wish someone would've held Mahidevran accountable for her actions throughout the show, she got away with too much and never realized she was the problem.
The hate towards Mahidevran is unbelievable. She never killed nearly as many innocent people as Hurrem did and never called herself a saint. What Hurrem did was absolutely inexcusable - compare Kosem she never once tried to kill Osman but Hurrem also killed so many innocent concubines. Also in history Mahidevran never killed Mehmet and was well liked by the Ottoman people. She’s just a victim of the Ottoman system and Suleiman. Even in the show, she’s not really more evil than other Sultanas she’s just stupid. Could have poisoned the Sultan a long time ago. Suleiman is the real devil, consumed by power and fearing rebellion due to his own insecurities. He’s become such a despot at the end it disgusts me. He doesn’t deserve to rule. People are seriously messed up. Stop blaming women, it’s the men who are at fault here. Hurrem’s role in Mustafa’s death was likely exaggerated as well, it’s always easier to blame the women during that time period. Oh well, thanks Suleiman for bringing about the decline of the Ottoman Empire I guess.
Mahidevran starting the war, she killed Mehmet at the first place. And Mehmet was a Prince. Not equal to concubine. So you think it's okay to kill the Emperor's son at the first place? Seriously.
@@littlemissai8997 She never did in history. Mehmet died of a natural disease. Even in the show, Hurrem already tried to cause Mustafa’s death twice, long before Mahidevran did anything to Mehmet. Prince and concubine are just stupid titles the Ottomans invented, they never had any right to kidnap concubines in the first place.
@@littlemissai8997 Actually, Hurrem started this war. By isolating Suleiman and Mustafa, trying to have Mustafa poisoned and despite being in a harem monopolising Suleiman and his time. Not to mention, Hurrem's utter disregard for the Valide Sultan, her arrogance towards Mahidevrian, her ruthlessness towards Isabella, and her own best friend. Hurrem made enemies out of everyone.
@@samhart4205 oh no Sam You have committed " the cardinal sin" for criticising Hurrem. Many zombies here are unable to accept your comments. To them ,Hurrem was a paragon of virtue, honesty, bla bla bla But I agree with you. Both Hurrem and Mahidevran were not saints. But Hurrem was ruthless. Behind facade of " worrying Sultan of her son's future" was actually a ruthless woman with unbridled passion for power above everything else
This is always one of the scenes I find difficult to watch. When Mustapha was executed, Mahidevran and Suleiman have not met for about thirty years. We are talking about Ottoman sultan and a discarded concubine. With hundreds of security details how did Mahidevran got near Suleiman? Fictionalised fiction
Mahidevran killed Mehmet to protect her son. Hurrem had to do the same. The rule was 1 concubine, 1 son. And the one who took the throne murdered his brothers. I don't think Mustafa would have killed his brothers. But Mahidevran would have killed them without him giving the order when the time came. Its hard to feel sorry for anyone when given the chance they would slaughter each other. Mehmet, mustafa and bayazid were the only decent people and look what it got them.
How prophetic was Mahidevrian's words! She may have lost Mustafa but Hurrem and Suleiman lost the Empire! In a weird way she actually won. Mustafa didn't carry the burden of being blamed for the decline of the Empire. It was *Hurrem's* son Selim. Yowza 😂
Selim was a drunkard. He spent all his time in harem. He was the first sultan to do that and so he had stopped his future generations from overcoming the addiction of bad things. Mustafa might have been a lot better.
@@umarrk3082 precisely. What I can't comprehend is the fact that Sualiman can be so heartless to his own son and Mahidevran. While Sulaiamn stood out as merciful towards his subjects as compared to contemporary like Queen Mary or Spanish King who were busy with Inquisition, Sualiamn was nonetheless ruthless towards his own son
Hurrem and Hurrem wanted the Empire, but they lost it, because even if they had won it, nothing would bring back their children. Because power never wins, love wins always, loyalty, friendship and brotherly love. All the temporary things are nothing and nothing wins the good feelings, the true feelings and to have your beloved ones is the greatest treasures of the whole world. But this last thing is very difficult to be understandable by many people.
@@umarrk3082 Mustafa would be much more better than Selim. Mustafa was even a better Prince than Selim. Imagine how Mustafa would be as a Sultan, compared to Syleiman and Selim. He would be 1000 times better than them.
i believe mahidevran had some goodness in heart, but unfortunately it was clouded by feelings of jealousy and hatred that led to where she (and her son) was. honestly if she accepted that she was no longer the favored concubine and raised mustafa properly and quietly, she could’ve lived a good life
Even if she accepted she wasn't the favoured concubine and tried to live out the rest of her life in peace with her son when Hurrem or any other concubine would have a son Mustafa's life would always be at risk. There was no accepting her fate
Everything shown in this drama is perfect depiction of how harsh life is. Neither Sultans nor Sultanas can escape it's miseries. Just Look at the great Sultan Suleiman Magnificent, look at Great Haseki Sultana Mahidevran. This drama is Tooo OP
@@kayodewa Mahidevran was one of top favorite concubines of Suleiman and mother of his first prince, so she held a GREAT ranking in the harem. Secondly, she is addressed as Haseki in the series.
For Beyazid, yes. Selim had Mustafa and Beyazid, even Cihangir as rivals. Beyazid loved his brothers Mustafa, Cihangir and Mehmed, but when Selim started to fight him, he should fight hi back, as he did. Selim never loved Mustafa or his brothers. He even was jealous of Mehmed, for he was the first one to the throne, his father gave him a change for the throne, he even built a throne over Mehmed's tomb.
Lol Mahidervan always blames others but never takes responsibility for her actions and never regrets her sins. 6:50 what about you Mahidervan? Did you ask Lord fogiveness for your sins? For killing Mehmed, hurtiing Hurrem for years since day one, threatening her children, etc? That’s why she what she deserved, as Mihrimah told her in the last Episode 139.
Remember guys this wasn’t immediately after Mustafa’s death, it was around 5 years afterwards. So Suleiman (show-version) didn’t visit his sons tomb for 5 years, and Mahidevran waited 5 years to say her words to Suleiman, that’s crazy! Her last words basically saying she doesn’t forgive him, imagine hearing that
In reality he never visited mustafa's tomb . He genuinely believed mustafa betrayed him and hence whatever happened was right . And he could care less if someone forgives him or not . As an emperor , during his long reign he had executed many and was immune to any such feelings such as guilt , remorse etc 😢 .
@@wazirmuhammad8999 The reference is in History. Suleiman called Mustafa traitor dog and never ever visited his grave. And yes, Mustafa was traitor in real history.
Mustapha's death was the start of a situation where weak sultans would follow and the downward slide would start for the great Ottoman empire.... Cursed man, Suleiman and cursed woman Hurrem.
it's not easy for a woman to lose the man she loved for years over a night beacuse of a concubine Mahidevarn suffered a lot due to suleiman's negligence she couldn't bear the burden she was very jealous and wanted to kill hurrem by any way her jealousy blinded her mind and she lost suleiman's love and respect she wasn't lucky as was hurrem but she was more merciful and patient than all of them
Yes...that's what I think too. She is a woman madly in love with her husband. How can she stand that. Her jealousy is justifiable. Suleiman ignored her badly which made her poisonous.
Surely Sultan will answer to Allah he was the only one who was responsible of his son's death as a ruler he should investigate the case of territory.....but he himself was blinded by the rage of thrown but Mustafa had no hunger for thrown and blood he was just a loyal and capable person of empire..my heart broke for Mustafa he was really innocent if the empire runs through Mustafa and his descendants Ottomans will become unstoppable
The most disliked thing about Mahidevran is that she never admits her mistake she always forgets what she does but always remembers the deeds of others. Now she is showing herself as a victim while whenever Suleiman was ill, Mahidevran used to plan kill Hurrem's children by wearing black clothes in the joy of Suleiman death.
Mahi always played a victim 😎 If wealth,property& territory were such small temporary things for her...then why did she play all those dirty,cruel,scheming games te retain them and why she wished death fr suleiman & hurrem and even killed hurrem' s son mehmed mercilessly??😡😡now suddenly she became a philosopher??😎😎
Sultan Sulieman knew what kind of dirty game she has...and She plant ah seed by hatred to Mustafa to his Siblings from the very beginning and thats why Mustafa never Respect Hurrem but Kids of Hurrem Respect Mahiwicth..
6:50 You too, Mahidervan- beg forgiveness from God for killing Mehmed, because only God can forgive you! 🙏🏼 But God doesn’t forgive those who can’t see their sins and don’t repent them. Hurrem always knew her sins, so did Suleiman. That’s why they gained peace, but Mahidervan considered herself innocent victim and everyone else evils. I even feel sorry for her ignorance.
He didn’t say because he knew Mahidevran was 🤡 Mahidervan as usual blames others in her misfortune and refuses to admit her own mistakes and sins! 4:56 the Sultanate lol! She killed Mehmed for Sultanate and power. 6:50 Mahidervan is the one who should ask God forgiveness for her sins. But she never will as she doesn’t even know her sins, she sees herself as saint!
Suleiman was smart and knew not to talk with 🤮🗑 woman. And won what? Mahidervan lost everything thanks to her greed. Mahidervan had no remorse for her sins and evil she did! She acts like she is saint and others are evils, when she is the one eviill. Mahidervan apparently forgot that she was the one who first killed Mehmed for the Sultanate and power that she is talking about at 4:49! She should be begging forgiving to Lord and Suleiman and to Hurrem, but she had no morals, no decency. That’s why she LOST big.
He didn’t talk to her as he knew she was embarrrassing and liiar 🤡 He was wayyy above her. And mahidevran won what? 🤣🤣she lost everything and everyone! 4:56 she talks on Sultanate, when she literally killed Mehmed for sultanate and greed lmao! 6:50 she acts like saint telling Suleiman to ask forgiveness to God, when she never admitted her sins, her mistakes and never asked forgivess to God for anything. But Lord knows the best- He gave Mahidervan long life full of loneliness and suffering, as she deserved! 🙏🏼
Mahidervan had no remorse for her sins and evil she did! She acts like she is saint and others are evils, whereas Hurrem said- No one is innocent! Mahidervan apparently forgot that she was the one who first killed Mehmed for the Sultanate and power that she is talking about at 4:49! The Audacity!
Though I admit Mahi is a stupid, didnt Hurrem try to kill Mustafa using efsun before mehmet's death? All kind of evil things were started by hurrem. She was the game changer. Yes, She did suffer a lot in the beginning but that doesnt give her the right to kill mustafa and ruin people/ ottomon dynasty.
Mahidervan as usual blames others in her misfortune and refuses to admit her own mistakes and sins! 4:56 the Sultanate lol! She killed Mehmed for Sultanate and power. 6:50 Mahidervan is the one who should ask God forgiveness for her sins. But she never will as she doesn’t even know her sins, she sees herself as saint!
Historically she did not, Mehmed died because he got sick and there is no proof she was responsible for his death. Even if she did kill him, she didn't kill him because she wanted power, she killed him because if he became Sultan he would have killed her son. The only person to blame here is Sulieman because he killed Mustafa despite him not being a threat to him.
@@alexss4038 precisely Mahidevran lost the gmae of throne In all honesty, I find Sualiman was simply merciless to Mahidevran. He seemed to forget the fact that Mahidevran gave him an heir( mUstafa) and this strengthened his claim to ascend the throne. He could have done better. Even if he believed Mustafa commited a treason, he could at least consult Mahidevran. Sulaiman was simply merciless here
One part that I find simply magnificent was the scene where Hurrem paid a courtesy call to Mahidevran. Here ,Hurrem who won the game of throne finally bowed to her rival, Mahidevran who lost everything in her life. It was simply breathtaking
It’s sad that she lost her son. Was she sad for love or her inability to use him to get back at hurrem. If she thinks a dynasty is only those things then she remained blind to the end.
As always Mahidevran blaming the world around her and seeing herself as Saint and Victim! 🤦🏻♀️ 4:56 What is sultanate? Did Mahidervan forget that she killed Mehmed for her greed for Sultanate and Throne? 6:50 Did Mahidervan beg God forgiveness for killing innocent Mehmed? For trying to poison pregnant Hurrem? For beating her, trying to kill her, for threatening Hurrem’s children? And she dares to talk on God and Forgiveness! 🤣🤣
But really, what do you expect her to do under the circumstances? Allow one of Hurrem's sons ascend the throne and kill her son? If anything, Sulaiman is responsible for all the issues between Mahidevran and Hurrem. He chose not to follow Ottoman rules by marrying a concubine and fathering more than one child with her. Of course thats going to cause strife, jealousy and resentment in the Harem, how could it not? Same with Gulfem; once their children died, he should have freed her and allowed her to marry someone else since he no longer wanted to be with her. Instead, he kept her around...still a slave and no chance of finding love for the rest of her life.. He allowed his feelings, desires and insecurities to cloud his judgment as a ruler.
It’s so funny to hear Mahidervan constantly blaming everyone for her unhappiness, but never admitting her own sins. 4:56 she talks on Sultanate, when she literally killed Mehmed for sultanate and greed lmao! 6:50 she acts like saint telling Suleiman to ask forgiveness to God, when she never admitted her sins, her mistakes and never asked forgivess to God for anything. But Lord knows the best- He gave her long life full of loneliness and suffering, as she deserved!
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
Mahidervan never admitted her sins, she only kept accusing others! 🤮 Mahideviil should shutttuppp, fall on her knees in front of Suleiman and Hurrem and ask for apology for the pain she caused! Mahidervan killled Hurrem’s and Suleiman’s best Sehzade Mehmed-innocent Sehzade for her greed! Now she is talking on sins? 😆😆 6:50 It’s Mahidervan who should ask God forgiving for all her sins-especially for killing Mehmed! That’s why Mahideviil got Karma for her sins. God knows the best! 🙏🏼
Does that mean that Hurrem was innocent? Or a better said isnt it crystal clear that between Hurrem and her, which of the two was indeed the much evil one, isnt it clear its hurrem
Wrong, Selim was the son who had a good relationship with Mustafa. Mehmed and Bayezid were considered threats. This is why when Selim becomes Sultan he assist Mahidevran.
If there is one thing that different people with different perspectives on the show can agree upon, its that these bots are fkn annoying and brainless....ridiculous hydra heads😂🙄
6:27 Mahidervan bows to Suleiman! 🛐🛐 It’s so funny to listen same complaints from Mahidervan-always accusing and blaming others but NEVER admitting her sins! 4:56 she says “What is sultanate? Was it worth it?” Really Mahidevill? Didn’t you kill Suleiman’s and Hurrem’s son for Sultanate and your own greed? 🥱 6:50 She tells Suleiman to ask forgiveness for killing liar, traiitor son. When was last time Mahidevran asked forgiveness to God, Suleiman or Hurrem for killing Mehmed or poisoning pregnant Hurrem? She never repented her sins and she thinks she is martyr here! 🤮 The God Mahidervan is talking about knew well who was sinner, that’s why she punnished Mahidevill and took away her only son, grandson, everything she had. God also gave her long and lonely life, so that she pays for every single sin she did to Suleiman and Hurrem! 🙏🏼✔️
A) the only one who had the Sultanate, was Syleiman. Don't forget what Syleiman said to Ibrahim Pasha at episode 82, with English subtitles (I don't remember the minute): "there is the possibility to put yourself in danger, especially people like you and me, who have power in our hands". B) Mahidevran said if it was worthy. The answer is no, because having land and property, these are temporary things, family remains together and never ends. As for ruling people and determine their fate, no one except God had rhe right to do these things. C) Mahidevran DIDN'T kill Mehmet in real life, Prince Mehmet died by the deadly dicease called "plague", which had eliminated the 1/3 of global population at that era, Ayaz Mehmet Pasha had died witb the same way. D) Mahidevran didn't kill Mustafa, Syleiman killed Mustafa and Hurrem with Rustem had made Syleiman kill him. Shouldn't blame Syleiman? Syleiman executed his son. Mahidevran said the truth at Syleiman, as she did always. What's so funny about this? Hurrem didn't say to Fatma Sultana (Syleiman's sister) at episode 124, that Prince Mustafa had been executed by the orders of Syleiman? So who should blame? She should blame the one sho gave the order, so she blamed the right person, who was actually the one who had relationship a long time ago, the person who gave her their son in the world, Sultan Syleiman. She said that Hurrem will poison their dynasty, that she will get rid of everyone and finally not only Mahidevran and Mustafa had been eliminated by Hurrem the snake, but Syleiman himself too had been eliminated by Hurrem, which means that Hurrem's love for Syleiman was a huge lie, otherwise she wouldn't say that she would made Syleiman her slave. Her intentions towards him weren't good. E) Mahidevran said to him to ask for forgiveness from God, in order to forgive him, because he killed his son. Concerning about he was innocemt or not, I don't know if he was inmocemt or not, but however Mustafa was Syleiman's son and killing a son is a very huge sin, even if he was guilty. F) Concerning Mahidevran's sins, Hurrem made a huge sin too: she putted herself between the relation of a father and a son. She did all of these plots, in order to have ger children safe, but being between a father and a son is a huge sin, so God took Cihangir, just like he took Mehmet from Syleiman and Hurrem, after Ibrahim's execution (Hatice got killed as well, she committed suicide, but God punished them with these deaths). As for Hurrem, at least had two more sons, Beyazid and Selim, Mahidevran was alone after Mustafa's execution, which means that she was a true hero, even and even bigger that Hurrem. Is it the same to have four children and the same to have only one? Losing two of four sons is cruel, I will not disagree, but having one son and losing him, this is very injust and means that you will never feel okay ever again, you will be dead completely. Mahidevran lived another 28 years, after Mustafa's execution, she died at the age of 81. When she lost her son, she was 53 (1553 - 1500 = 53). Hurrem had also Mihrimah, except Beyazid and Selim, Mahidevran had only Mustafa, which means that she was more unlucky than Hurrem (Hurrem had stolen everything from her). G) It was Syleiman who had neglected Mahidevran from the beginning, this was Syleiman's biggest sin, because Mahidevran was Haseki Sultana and the Ottomab law at that era was saying that the Sultan of the Empire should not leave all alone her. Also, it was forbitten from the law for Sultans (Syleiman for example) to marry slaves, so Syleiman committed another sin too. The third sin that he committed was that Haseki Sultana who was the mother of the future Sultan of the empire (Mahidevran and Mustafa) had the right to be in charge at the Harem (after the death of Syleima's mother) and not one slave. His next sin was the execution order to his sons and especially he was responsible for Cihangir's death. Also, he killed his grand-children (Mustafa's son and Beyazid's sons). Then, he neglected Mahidevran, being with Hurrem all the time, he forgot that he was the Sultan, so that means that he should be by the side of all his subjects and his biggest sin was that he became tyrant, he shed innocent blood, blood of family, his own blood, he became cruel just like his father. He swore to himself that no one would been killed and he had swore the same promise to his sister Hatice Sultana, to his mother and to Ibrahim Pasha, so he swore the same promise to four people (to himself, to his mother, to Ibrahim and to Hatice), but he broke his promise, because he was coward and stupid in order to have it fulfilled, so this was also Syleiman's sin. I will not say about Hurrem's sins, because I will not finish untill tomorrow. As for Mahidevran, God gave her Mustafa, Syleiman killed him, so God rewarded her (if it may be a reward for a mother who lost a son) with longlife. But what can a mother if her son losses his life? Would be able to stand this pain? Thankfully, Mahidevran didn't die, until she saw the murderers of her son dying: first Hurrem died, who made Syleiman kill Mustafa (and Ibrahim with the same way), Rustem died (who made Syleiman kill Mustafa, in collaboration with Hurrem. He helped Hurrem to get rid of Ibrahim, with the same way that they got rid of Mustafa), then it was Syleiman's time, then Selim's and Nurbany's. Selim thought that his payment to Mahidevran was enough for the damage that he had done to her, when he became Sultan. Her son, Prince Mustafa died because of some hyenas and because of his father, who couldn't see the truth, who never interrogated about his son's possible betrayal and he killed him merciless. What kind of idiots were Syleiman and Selim? They thought that money would be a good consolation for Mahidevran. At least, Selim should be more friendly with Mustafa, after all they were brother (even if they were born from different mothers), Syleiman was crazy from the beginning and he ended up just like he had risen up. At last, the murderers had paid and the divine justice had been fulfilled.
As an American married to a Turk, this show helps me make sense of my current life. Don't get it twisted my life still don't make sense; but this show helps. Maybe because everyone is sad. I need a hug man.
5:13 look how silent the Sultan is while his 'concubine' is giving him a reality check, he knew he was guilty Suleiman only killed Mustafa so he could reign longer, mustafa never betrayed Suleiman The actors portraying mahidevran and Suleiman are magnificent too
Her words fell flat in his dead soul. Hurrem hollowed him out, to a shell of what he once was. His heart was eaten by Hurrem. He is now just her puppet, and does her bidding right or wrong.
You also killed by poisoning Prince Mehmet mahidervan, you killed him for the throne, now you know how painfulness hurrem felling and us as his funs:-)^_^
And that was a fact a big one because mustafa was to be a wise king n ruler the declines of ottomans started with his death selim n the rest destroyed the empire with meaningless wars n inter conflicts the only set that could have ruled better too were Memhed and Kosem especially thier son Murad but memhed and murad didn’t live long
Mahidevran is 🤮🗑🤡 She always blames others but never takes responsibility for her actions and never regrets her sins. 6:50 what about you Mahidervan? Did she ask Lord fogiveness for your sins? For killing Mehmed, hurtiing Hurrem for years since day one, threatening her children, etc? That’s why she what she deserved, as Mihrimah told her in the last Episode 139.
Mahidervan is complete embarrassment. She never admitted her sins and evil. She used her son for power, she killed Hurrem’s son Mehmed for her greed and now has Audacity to talk this way to Suleiman. Heaven sent Karma to her, and she deserved to live long suffering and die alone-the best ending for her.
@@lilymasood3O67 Still Better than Hurrem.....AND Fyi mahidevran didnt killed Mehmed in real life...mehmed died of smallpox....Makers did many things wrong to glorify hurrem...
Payal Suleiman ordered the execution of his own son. What would you expect a mother to react when she learnt that her son was executed by the order of his very own father. Yes Mahidevran was no saint. So was Sulaiamn and above all Hurrem. Are you saying it is OK to slander Mustapha? Are you saying slander is acceptable. Mihrimahnstile Mustoaha's seal, thus paving the way for Mustapha to be implicated. The least Sulaiamn should do was to investigate. The scene was tragic. I am no fan of Mahidevran. But if you care to be objective, you would agree that what Mahidevran did was pale in comparison to ruthlessness of Hurrem.
@@shamshulanuar7718 Wait a minute, where tf did I said slander is ok or I am confortable with it😑 do not assume things which you don't know. And wdy mean by 'what mahidevran did was pale to the ruthlessness of hurrem'. You people don't watch the show and come here. Mahidevran started all this by first poisoning hurrem when she was pregnant with mehmet. And don't say, hurrem snatched "mahidevran's husband", he wasn't his husband and according to harem rule any woman can coitus with the ruler as per his wish. And you see the stamp incindent only. Mustafa did many things against the order of suleiman or even without seeking his permission like gathering the army, distributing coins to them, fighting pirates and more despite many warnings. And nothing happens without the order of suleiman, he must have investigated it so don't blame hurrem for it; suleiman wanted it and he did it. Mahidevran was the reason for mehmet's death according to show but you don't see it. She started all this but hurrem ended it. She fought against all of them alone but you see her "ruthlessness" what about others? Didn't they do anything to provoke hurrem? AND I KNOW HER DEEDS BETTER THAN YOU BC I SUPPORT HURREM AND KNOW HER ACTIONS VERY WELL.
Mahivmdevran is correct, Suleiman able to create a magnificent era for his own, but he can't create a magnificient for Ottoman in future. And it was true, after Suleiman's era, ottoman always loosing their territory. And the last greatest sultan is Abdul Hamid II.
whatever mahidevan said was correct.Mustafa indeed was the future of the ottomans and this was the reason after Sulaiman’s death ottomans started to decline.Sulaiman is the villan here not hurrem nor mahidevran
Lmaoooo botttt! The future of Ottomans was Hurrem’s son Mehmed! And the Ottomans started to decline after 1830, this is hundreds years after Suleyiman! Read history, you🤡
Someone needs to read history! 🤣🤣🤣 Mustafa was weakk and never good sehzade! The best Sehzade and future of Ottomans was Mehmed! Mahidervan killled him- she was eviiil! Otttomans Empire started decclining in 1830 - hundreds years after Suleyiman and ended in 1922! So read history!
You clearly don’t know history! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The future of Ottomans was Mehmed-Hurrem’s son and Mahidervan killled him! Ottomans started decclline after 1830 that’s hundreds years after Suleiman! Bottt
Sadly, suliman will be known as the sultan who killed many of his children. He killed Mustafa first. Followed by another son(not sure of name but read it) who supported Mustafa. Killed Bayized. May as well have killed Chingar as he took his own life after the death of Mustafa. The one he should have killed honestly was Silim. He was a drunk, who during a visit in town killed a commoner for talking bad about him. He also destroyed the ottoman empire in the end.
Hahahahahahah! Botttt! Read history! Suleiman is known as greatest Sultan who made empire great! He is not first and last who killled Traiitor sons! Jihanngir diied with Chroniicall illlness! Bottt! And Selim was smart and good sultan! The Ottoman empire was strong until 1830 and ended in 1922, that’s hundreds years after Selim. Sit down now! Botttt!
What are you blllabbering Mustafa’s bott? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Suleiman is known as greatest sultan the MAGNIFICENT. He killled his traiittor sons Mustafa and Bayazid! As he should! Jihangir diied with illlness that he had from childhoood! And Selim was a very good sultan! The empire stayed strong hundreds years after Selim and ended in 1922, this is 400 years after Selim, U 🤡🤡
Hahahahahahaha! Bottt READ HISTORY, what are you blllabbering? 😆😆😆😆 Suleiman is known as greatest and smartest sultan in History, as Magnificent! Both Mustafa and Bayazid were traiiitors and were killled! Cihangir never took his llife 🤣🤣 He diied with illlness that he had many years! Selim was good, peaceful and kind sultan! He ruled 8 years and during his time the empire was strong! After him tens sultans came 😆 The empire ended in 1922, this is more than 400 years after Selim! Lmaoo READ HISTORY you🤡🗑🤦🏻♀️
Sadly for you, history doesn’t agree with you, U🤡 Suleyiman is known as most powerrful and smart Sultan MAGNIFICENT, he made empire greatest! He was and is LEGEND, so is his wiife Hurrem! Suleiman killled Mustfafa and Bayazid as they were liiars and traiitors. And Bayazid never killled himself😂 He was illl from childhoood for years and died of his chroniical illlness. Selim was good sultan and ruled 8 years, he was peaceful and smart! After him came tens sultans! The empire stayed strong hundreds more years and ended in 1922 becoming Turrkeyy- this was hundreds years after Selim! So READ HISTORY, Cloownnnnn!
Mahidevran acts turn Mustafa to Suleiman's nightmare, after the things she did, Suleiman see nightmares that his son stole his kingdom and kill his kids and wife , Suleiman know Mustafa as his enemy long time before hurrme do something, Mahidevran knows what would make Suleiman angry but still does it, she was more into defeating Hurrem than caring for Mustafa
I want to see her speaking if her son was taking the throne. Hard words? Oh, please! When she had Mustafa, she splendid her hate to everyone and saying that her son will destroyed Hürrem and everyone around her. But when she lost her son, she saying "right" words about Sultanate and power. She is so pathetic! She kill innocent Mehmet and laughing! She took everything that she deserves!
I always think that the fault for Mustafa's death was of Suleiman. And even she made the same Mahidevran here make me tenderness. She for Mustafa, Hürrem for Mehmet and Cihangir. At least closer to Mother's day, any mama deserve to life above her kids. For me Suleiman, as I have always said, continued this circle of envy of Mahidevran by reminding her that she was however "the mother of the first eldest son in life" and giving her the idea of being the future Valide. If he freed her Mehmet e Mustafa would still be alive in the show Ps: I love how Mahidevran talk to Suleiman. Not with angry or screaming. And the last words are so powerful.
Mahidervan never was mother of first eldest son, Gulfem was! And stop blaming Suleiman- He always said Mehmed would be sultan. And her words are embarrrassing! She always kept blaming others, never admitted that she killed Mehmed! She was 🤡🤡🤡
@@dakotaashleyneven start fight between two brothers isn't a intelligent choice. And Suleiman nobody saw off him on the throne. Not Mustafa, not Mehmet.
@@ramn_bennington Actually no; Mahidervan killed Mehmed because he was future Sehzade, not Mustafa! And nothing was powerrful in Mahidervan’s speech! She should ask forgiving for killling Mehmed 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 For me are powerful. I talk about my opinion in my comment, I don't say your opinion or my opinion. Everyone have her own point of wievs
Mahidevran doesn't really feel anything. She killed Mehmet and never regrets and now she is asking God for punishment for others. Why does she think that what happened to others is punishment but what happened to her is Cruelty .
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
she forgot how she was happy with the death of Mehmed's son Hurrem, she ordered his murder herself and everyone has to feel sorry for her Mustafa, the karma returns
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
@@nwilliams2132 People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
You know its deep when an old poor powerless destoyed woman mahidevran kept saying the emperor of world suleiman harsh words and he kept silent and didn't say a single word shows he actually regretted killing Mustafa It shows his negligence and partiality towards hurrem and her children that just because of mahidevran he started hating his own sons, he needed just one slander(a chance) and mustafa was killed In the end, Suleiman,hurrem and mahidevran all were guilty for their own wrongdoings But Suleiman will still be remembered as the magnificent because of his conquests and contribution towards the ottoman state
It's funny how memories are short, technically Mahidevran tried to kill Mehmet twice, when he was in Hurrem's womb and she succeeded the second time. Her jealousy, hate, and how she raised him help cause the death of her beloved Mustafa. She was always the victim, even to the end. She may have seen them (Suleman, Hurrem, etc.) die but in her way, her living was even worse.
You've the audacity to say she must be burning. In the history she never killed mehmet. It was hurrem who was evil and poisoned Suleiman's heart. Stop being clowns all you hurrem fans!🤡
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
What mahidevran didn’t understand and suleman didnt realize it’s just not Sultanate it was muslims glorious time. And to put in jeopardy was not An option , there were many people with mustafa and suleman who brought them at this point bcz in the end nobody was thinking of sultanate but themselves
Hate Mahidevran but her performance in this latter part of the show is phenomenal. She is very convincing as a grieving mother who has lost everything and stopped caring about anything except keeping her son's memory alive.
Nah, the way Mahidevran speaks it’s as if she wanted nothing but her son’s welfare from the beginning when we all know she wanted him to inherit the sultanate for her own benefit. 🤣 she was as obsessed with it as Hurrem was
I beg to differ. What would a mother do in her shoes. Mustapha was not a carpenter. He was a prince . In fact the eldest son of the reigning Sultanm That would put him as the strongest claimant to the throne. And that brings in enemy too. Mahidevran was protecting her son .
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hahahahahaha! No! Mahidevran’s son didn’t have to be sultan because he was older! It didn’t work like this, botttt! The throne was Mehmed’s and Suleyiman made it clear! Mahdiervan was not protttecting her son! She wanted powerr
@@shamshulanuar7718 hahahahahaha! Whattttt? Mustafa was not the claimant to throne! The throne was Mehmed’s! It didn’t matter who was oldest! Suleiman’s father Selim became Sultan as he had oldest brother! Mahidevran only wanted powerrr! Hurrem was prottecting her sons! Hurrem’s words: “I fought to protect my sons, not to ascend them on throne, because that would mean to lose Sultan Suleyman-the meaning of my life”! Mahidervan’s words: “Can’t wait to become Valide Sultana and return to the palace”. Try better 😆😆😆
No, Hurrem never wanted powerr, Mahidevran wanted powerr. HURREM’S words: “I fought to protect my sons, not to ascend them on throne, because that would mean to lose Sultan Suleyman-the meaning of my life”! MAHIDEVRAN’s words: “Can’t wait to become Valide Sultana, so that I return to the palace and kickk Hurrem and her chilldren out”. Mahidevran wanted powerr and used her son for it. She was 🤮🤮🤮
No, Mahidervan was obbbsesssed with powerr, not Hurrem! Hurrem’s son Mehmed was future sultan, not Mustaffa. That’s why Mahidervan killed the best Sehzade Mehmed! Hurrem never wanted sultanate for her sons; she was only protttecting them. These are her words: “I fought to protect my sons, not to ascend them on throne, because that would mean to lose Sultan Suleyman-the meaning of my life”! And here is Mahidervan’s words: “I can’t wait to return to the palace and claim the Valide Sultana status.” Mahidervan wanted only powerr and used her son for it. She paid for her every sinnn! 👊🏼
In real life, mahidevran never killed mehmed, he died naturally, but hurrem and mihrima were involved in Mustafa's killing Suleyman was the main protagonist and the maain antagonist of the show
Actually..it was Hurrem that made the move to show their kids weren't off limits. She didn't succeed back then but succeeded years later after Mahidevrian retaliated in the same way.
@@juliaserento9928 Actually, it was Hurrem that tried to sow the seeds of discord between Mustafa and Suleiman. She isolated them from each other, and hyped Suleiman's paranoia. Things come to such a head, that Hurrem openly asks Suleiman to *discipline* MUSTAFA, A PRINCE because he stood up to Hurrem for screaming at his mother. Hurrem wasn't stupid. So she clearly knew that she had Suleiman's ear enough to cause Mustafa harm because Suleiman and Mustafa's relationship was so deteriorated because of her.
When she says all these with so much audacity isn’t Mehmet also a son of a loving mother? whom she killed mercilessly for no fault of his. What goes around comes around. She is also asking sultan that all these he did for sultanate! Well, till the last minute of her son’s death she also played all sorts of nasty games for the sake sultanate, for power, to become Valide Sultana and make her Son Sultan, like anyone else. When son died hope set, life came to stand still she is talking like a saint. Perhaps she looks into herself she can find answers for all her suffering. (I mean the character called Mahidevran) Hurrem never brought her children ingesting poison, history says, Selim paid Mahidevran’s living expenses until she died at 84. If the story would have been other way around, Hurrem would have starved to death such is the way Mahidevran brought up her son, with no virtues.
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
@@mariaaaa67788 Many people in Turkey had issue with the series, the PM also was fuming against the series, we people across the globe witnessed the angst you expressed over a silly series. If you have a problem with the soap opera please deal with the crew or director individually. Spare us. We people paid for what was available on the Netflix not to learn your history but for entertainment. The issue here is, I just spoke about the characters and their dialogues in the series, not one bit I mentioned anything at all about the ottoman rulers, I think you have serious issue. Stop picking up on random people on the internet. Please work on yourself. PS: I don’t study history from Netflix, I go to school.
@@Aliaakaramm hahahahahahaha! As always Mahidevran blaming the world around her and seeing herself as Saint and Victim! 🤦🏻♀️ 4:56 What is sultanate? Did Mahidervan forget that she killed Mehmed for her greed for Sultanate and Throne? 6:50 Did Mahidervan beg God forgiveness for killing innocent Mehmed? For trying to poison pregnant Hurrem? For beating her, trying to kill her, for threatening Hurrem’s children? And she dares to talk on God and Forgiveness! 🤣🤣
@@Aliaakaramm bwahahahhaahah! Mahidevill and powerrful? She is 🤡🗑 She is the one who should ask God forgiveness! She killed Mehmed and got her karrmaaaa
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
It always bothers me that it is acceptable to kill your siblings and their children for the throne. It's a small leap for there to killing your own child..!!!
Hurrem made father killed his son God made her son's killed each other Punished her with disease Ottamine Empire sinks in darkness with the blood of innocent God didn't spare hurrem(son's For a son) God didn't spare Suleiman (demolition of Dynasty for throne he killed his son)
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"Even if centuries pass, everyone will know - a father killed his own son."
Say what you want about Mahidevran, but she was right. Her son died on the altar of Suleiman's Sultanate. But it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't just a ruler executing a rebellious subject. It was a father who murdered his very own son and not even 5 centuries later, was the fact forgotten.
She is also a killer , only sorry about the death of her son😢she has a short memory 😢
@@geraldineharvey6804 it was written here, but in reality as far as i know mehmed died of disease
@@Yanatscrollsyou’re absolutely right he died of plague
@@houdamaouche80he died becouse of vareola disease, the difference is that in reality it is not proved that mahidevran had anything to do about it
@@andreihorodniceanu6541i know
I feel so sad for mahidevran in this scene. And it was heartwarming that Bayezid wanted to help out his beloved brother's mother in building his tomb
But in reality Selim paid off her debts purchased a house for Mahidevran and set a monthly allowance for her atleast he was better than his mother
There's no love for Suleiman anymore... In mahidevran's heart
The actress who portrayed mahidevean was magnificent.. shes a very good actress ! I can feel the pain of mother who lost her child ...
Say what u want about mahidevran she always loved her son
Did she tho?? I watched the episode where Hatice set Hurrem up and she was taken while trying to get to Selim recently and it dawned on me. Mahidevran knew what was going on, she also knew her son would be blamed and she did nothing to warn Mustafa. As a mother who loves her child I would’ve never let something like that happen, no matter how much so hated Hurrem. This caused a riff between father and son.
Every mother loves his child
I mean she used him 🤷🏻
Toxic love though.
That's right!! SERVES U RIGHT FOR KILLING HURREMS N SULIEMAN FIRST BORN MEHMET..
This is the only strong scene of Mahidevran in which She talked without pushing and shouting Now she felt the pain of losing a child.
She killed Hurrem Prince ..she act like innocent than Sulieman🤣🤣
What are you saying? 🤣🤣🤣 Strong scene? She talked like she was innocent, when she killed Suleiman’s son Mehmed! Lmaooo🤣🤣🤣
There was nothing strong in her blllablla, she showed she is 🤡 as always blaming others in her unhappiness, when she was the one who killled Mehmed! Lmao!
@@camiyep0lat7585
I thought you were 🤡. I guess you are confusing
Pain of losing an angel like child. Sad you liers has nothing to prove mahi bad, except a half truth serial which shows her in dark light, to justify devil hurrem
Hurrem was 1st who Poisoned Shahzada Mustafa.
Almost all viewers were blind.
Mustafa is sweet.
Mehmat died due to illness
Didn't Hurrem tried to kill Isabella with plague and sending snake to her? Did Isabella harmed Hurrem before that ? 🤡@Dreamfyre
Mahi gave poison to hurrem when she was pregnant
@DreamfyreHurrem poisoned Mustafa way before Mehmet was dead. Plus in the real life, Mehmet died naturally.
@Dreamfyre How many innocents did Mahi kill? Vs how many did Hurrem kill? No comparison. Mahi's faults are so innocent and light compared with Hurrem.
Once hurrem got power ,she went on a killing spree. No one sees that
Not only Mahidevran,but all participants never admitted their mistakes even once! Especially Suleiman himself!
But hurrem admitted
Right...he just listened to mahudevran Everything was true whst can he say
Hurrem admitted at last minute,when she knew she would die anytime
@@rachealmuhambi3582 but that's too much in islam to accept your mistakes and bad deeds and then repent to Allah! That's enough to please the almighty amd everybody! And hurrem sultana did that! 🔥❤ nobody else was too guilty they all were shameless
I agree admitting and repenting of your sins is always the best you can do to make it right with our Almighty God. May we all remember to ask for forgiveness from our fellow men and God!
Very powerful scene between Mahidervan and Suleiman and great acting in the end nobody truly won because power in the end took something from each person
Frederick Douglass said it best; Power concedes nothing without demand; it never has & never will. These two, like others before them & since them, only see this too late.
Facts
@@dakotaashleyn calm down Leo is a Hurrem fan stop overacting
@@shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8 bruh Leo is a huge fan of Hurrem go sell your BS somewhere bots 🤖
@@SexhatClhxlhxyoxyl Who are you to call someone bots? Sit down ahahahaha
Everyone who says that mahidevran is responsible for Mustafa's death ....
I'm asking you to not take away the blame from the only and true culprit , which is Sultan Suleiman
Nothing can justify killing your own son , there's a thousand alternative
And he didn't verify the truth until after the execution......
Some of you will blame Hurrem , mahidevran or even Mustafa himself....but nobody forced the Sultan to kill his own sons , he is the only master of his decision and action ...
I'm not a fan of mahidevran's Character , and she may be responsible for some of her son's flaws , but I wouldn't blame her in that situation , and I wouldn't victimise her either , she wasn't strong enough and was too much blinded by her desires of revenge .
But the main responsible is the ruler himself !
Yu fool what yu know about History in Tv Drama they can’t show yu Facts
@@thakurrohit65 I'm talking about this series ,
Who ever mentioned history ?
We all noticed that this show is not really accurate but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy it or analyse it .
So please be more respectful next time .
And if you could keep your history facts to yourself I would be grateful .
Yes!! I hate show Suleiman soooo much if I were Mahidevran I would have poisoned him 100 times already😠😠😠 Mahidevran’s greatest flaw is not evil it’s not being ruthless and smart enough, she should have poisoned the evil revolting Sultan!! Instead of wasting her time with Hurrem
@@caterina_sforza2688 wahahahahhaha! What are you blllabering, bottt? 🤣🤣🤣
Remember one ☝️ thing if yu Dug hole 🕳 for sm1 then Great allah will fall yu in this Hole 🕳 & what goes Around Come Around..! When God wants Sm1 to Live nothing work on them nor poison ☠️ or anything ..! So just chill Aunty 💖
I'm glad she finally realised the real culprit behind the death of her son. For once, she blamed the right person for her misfortunes. Since she has a penchant for blaming Hurrem for everything bad that happens to her. But this time, she rightfully placed the blame at the right door. Suleiman killed Mustafa to protect his throne due to his own insecurities. It had little to nothing to do with Hurrem. Yes, she benefitted from that decision to secure the lives of her children, but that doesn't make Hurrem the reason Mustafa died. Try as she may, she couldn't have been able to successfully manipulate Suleiman to kill Mustafa, if it wasn't something he wanted to do himself. But history tends to blame women for bad decisions men make. It's a shame.
I really like your take on the situation, so true
Godlive
No doubt Hurrem was guilty too
Was it not Hurrem who lied by saying Mustafa was in alliance with Shah of Persia to overthrow Sulaiaman.
Was it not Mihrimah who stole Mustafa's seal?
Was it not Hurrrwn was behind the murder of Mustafa's concubine?
Was it not
So called hurram fan 😆😆😆😆😆 idiot
@@ankaramahi3008 hope u felt better calling me an "idiot" over a tv show with actors playing characters. I'm sure your life suddenly became great and all your depression left you after writing that comment.
It's truly a shame
It was Hurrem who first tried to kill Mustafa even before Mahidevran killed Mehmed. Hurrem sent Efsun Hatun to become Mustafa's favorite and she put poison in his food much before Mehmed was killed by Mahidevran. Mahidevran on the other hand once saved Mehmed from drowning in the pond in the palace gardens when he was a toddler.
Mahidevran poisoned pregnant hurrem, She tried to kill Prince Mehmet first when he was in his mumma’s belly.
@@fatima._66 but she stopped poison was not given
Hureem gave poison multiple times to mustufa... hurrem did alot of alot of bad deeds but mahedevran didnt
Exactly. Every one just want to act like hurrem is all innocent. Plus mahidevran aborted her second child because of psychological pressure caused by hurrem and only after that she tried to poison Hurrem so she aborts her child too. Which wasn't successful. Plus she saved Mehmet one when there was no need to. But hurrem tried to kill Mustafa numerous times even before mahidevran killed Mehmet.
@@bahars305seriously they actually so blind man
Please upload the next part of this scene where Suleiman recites the poem he wrote for Mustafa
Halit Ergenc is simply phenomenal in this recitation!!
Interesting Fact: The poem was really written by Suleiaman under his pen name Muhibi
No he didn't write any poem for Mustapha in reality, but he wrote a massive emotional one for Mehmet.
@✿*blueberries snow*✿ No what
@✿*blueberries snow*✿ Yes what. Please write full sentences.
Fool all parts had been made 10 yrs ago
@@kayodewa❤❤❤❤A
I loved where she said as only God can forgive you
exactly
...as she cannot....
Ама той дори не е молил тя да му прости ако не беше го убил Мустафа щеше да убие д-р ми деца ,Мустафа го предаде затова бе убит
She needs to look in the mirror.
Y’all saying Mahidevran never admits to her mistakes (which is true) but when does Suleiman? He deserves to hear al these words. ‘The future of the Ottoman Empire lies in a cold coffin’ yikes. And for what suleiman? He killed his son for power greed and wealth. He’s the worst person in the entire show. At least mahidevran killed mehmet to protect mustafa.
Hahahahaha! Suleiman was the greatest Sultan and Magnificent! He killed Traiitorr Mustafa!
And Mahidervan killled Mehmed for poweerr and greed! Mehmed was the smartest, sweetest and most innocent Sehzade! He would never hurrt his brothers everrr!
Hahahahahha! The future of Ottomans was Mehmed and Mahidevran killled him for her greed and powerr hunger! She said herself she wanted to be Valide Sultan! She even poiisoned pregnant Hurrem and plottted Hurrem’s deathh to kill her children!
Suleiman killed Mustafaf for his liies!
Mustafa openly defied and ignored orders of Suleiman multiple times, lied on many things-including his wedding. He also threattened Hurrem many times, he was also aware that his allies formed a secret group aiming to dethrone Suleiman and he gave them gifts and monney, instead of doing something. Sulleiman warned him many times to stop crossing the line- watch episode 100, but Musfafa still continued being rebbbell. So he got his end! Get over it!
Suleiman was best sultan! He was MAGNIFICENT! And Mustafa was liiiar, mannipulated by Mahidervan! She killed Mehmed for her greed of power! She said herself- she wanted to become Valide Sultana!
So agaiin🤌🏼🤫🤫
All the bots and muppets, gathered under one comment. Yikes. Go touch some grass, worthless bots. 🤡
He's the worst and Hurrem is a very close second. They deserved each other!
This scene was epic truly epic . These actors are out of this world . Anyone with a heart could relate with the pain of mahidevran . I know some will say she deserved it bla bla bla but still. What a powerful scene . " Future of ottomans is lying in a cold dark coffin " . Sad 😢😢😢😢
And she not have some doubt. Mehmet and Mustafa were the most talented Suleiman's son, more the first. Bayezid was talented but don't have intelligence. In the end the Sultan is one that think to drink more of Sultanate and her wife that broken the happy family of her son
@@ramn_bennington and Selim II was a drunkard fool, with absolute no talent, intelligence or any interess for state affairs. No doubt the decline of the empire started with him.
At least mahi was given d chance to pour out her heart on suleiman...
Reminded me of the scene of the 19 coffins being taken out after one Brother killed all his rivals to the throne.
The seeds started with Suleiman's Father...
@@virginiaalo7434 in real life, she never saw the Sultan again after being sent to Manisa. So she never got a chance to tell the Sultan how she feels. I think it's great this added this to the show. I just wish someone would've held Mahidevran accountable for her actions throughout the show, she got away with too much and never realized she was the problem.
Mustafa was killed by letters said to have been created by Hurrem and his daughter
*her
The hate towards Mahidevran is unbelievable. She never killed nearly as many innocent people as Hurrem did and never called herself a saint. What Hurrem did was absolutely inexcusable - compare Kosem she never once tried to kill Osman but Hurrem also killed so many innocent concubines. Also in history Mahidevran never killed Mehmet and was well liked by the Ottoman people. She’s just a victim of the Ottoman system and Suleiman. Even in the show, she’s not really more evil than other Sultanas she’s just stupid. Could have poisoned the Sultan a long time ago. Suleiman is the real devil, consumed by power and fearing rebellion due to his own insecurities. He’s become such a despot at the end it disgusts me. He doesn’t deserve to rule. People are seriously messed up. Stop blaming women, it’s the men who are at fault here. Hurrem’s role in Mustafa’s death was likely exaggerated as well, it’s always easier to blame the women during that time period. Oh well, thanks Suleiman for bringing about the decline of the Ottoman Empire I guess.
Mahidevran starting the war, she killed Mehmet at the first place. And Mehmet was a Prince. Not equal to concubine. So you think it's okay to kill the Emperor's son at the first place? Seriously.
@@littlemissai8997 She never did in history. Mehmet died of a natural disease. Even in the show, Hurrem already tried to cause Mustafa’s death twice, long before Mahidevran did anything to Mehmet. Prince and concubine are just stupid titles the Ottomans invented, they never had any right to kidnap concubines in the first place.
she may not have killed him irl but she did in the show and accordingly this makes her a hypocrite in the show
@@littlemissai8997 Actually, Hurrem started this war. By isolating Suleiman and Mustafa, trying to have Mustafa poisoned and despite being in a harem monopolising Suleiman and his time. Not to mention, Hurrem's utter disregard for the Valide Sultan, her arrogance towards Mahidevrian, her ruthlessness towards Isabella, and her own best friend. Hurrem made enemies out of everyone.
@@samhart4205 oh no Sam
You have committed " the cardinal sin" for criticising Hurrem.
Many zombies here are unable to accept your comments. To them ,Hurrem was a paragon of virtue, honesty, bla bla bla
But I agree with you.
Both Hurrem and Mahidevran were not saints. But Hurrem was ruthless. Behind facade of " worrying Sultan of her son's future" was actually a ruthless woman with unbridled passion for power above everything else
I love it how people become so sensible towards end of their lives
I give Selim credit for rescuing Mahidevran from abject poverty and building a tomb for his brother. He's a better person than both his parents.
Not selim.bayezid
Not Bayezid, Selim.@@Ottomanempires390
This is always one of the scenes I find difficult to watch. When Mustapha was executed, Mahidevran and Suleiman have not met for about thirty years. We are talking about Ottoman sultan and a discarded concubine. With hundreds of security details how did Mahidevran got near Suleiman? Fictionalised fiction
Mahidevran killed Mehmet to protect her son. Hurrem had to do the same. The rule was 1 concubine, 1 son. And the one who took the throne murdered his brothers. I don't think Mustafa would have killed his brothers. But Mahidevran would have killed them without him giving the order when the time came. Its hard to feel sorry for anyone when given the chance they would slaughter each other. Mehmet, mustafa and bayazid were the only decent people and look what it got them.
mahidevran never killed mehmet. it was only shown in the series. in real life he died from smallpox
@@Moocha_Moon stfu, they're clearly talking about the series
He died due to smallpox mahidervan didn’t killer him but they showed false story in the series
Bro dont learn history from the series these are fake things killing mehmet and stuff
How prophetic was Mahidevrian's words! She may have lost Mustafa but Hurrem and Suleiman lost the Empire! In a weird way she actually won. Mustafa didn't carry the burden of being blamed for the decline of the Empire. It was *Hurrem's* son Selim. Yowza 😂
Selim was a drunkard. He spent all his time in harem. He was the first sultan to do that and so he had stopped his future generations from overcoming the addiction of bad things. Mustafa might have been a lot better.
@@umarrk3082 precisely.
What I can't comprehend is the fact that Sualiman can be so heartless to his own son and Mahidevran.
While Sulaiamn stood out as merciful towards his subjects as compared to contemporary like Queen Mary or Spanish King who were busy with Inquisition, Sualiamn was nonetheless ruthless towards his own son
Hurrem and Hurrem wanted the Empire, but they lost it, because even if they had won it, nothing would bring back their children. Because power never wins, love wins always, loyalty, friendship and brotherly love. All the temporary things are nothing and nothing wins the good feelings, the true feelings and to have your beloved ones is the greatest treasures of the whole world. But this last thing is very difficult to be understandable by many people.
@@umarrk3082 Mustafa would be much more better than Selim. Mustafa was even a better Prince than Selim. Imagine how Mustafa would be as a Sultan, compared to Syleiman and Selim. He would be 1000 times better than them.
@@umarrk3082 I just love it when formal education ignorants writes with boldness topics they know absolutely nothing about.
i believe mahidevran had some goodness in heart, but unfortunately it was clouded by feelings of jealousy and hatred that led to where she (and her son) was. honestly if she accepted that she was no longer the favored concubine and raised mustafa properly and quietly, she could’ve lived a good life
I agree 100%
Even if she accepted she wasn't the favoured concubine and tried to live out the rest of her life in peace with her son when Hurrem or any other concubine would have a son Mustafa's life would always be at risk. There was no accepting her fate
Everything shown in this drama is perfect depiction of how harsh life is.
Neither Sultans nor Sultanas can escape it's miseries.
Just Look at the great Sultan Suleiman Magnificent, look at Great Haseki Sultana Mahidevran.
This drama is Tooo OP
Mahidevran was neither great nor was she Haseki.
@@kayodewa I didn't meant in literal sense.
@@MuzahirAli1 ok
@@kayodewa Mahidevran was one of top favorite concubines of Suleiman and mother of his first prince, so she held a GREAT ranking in the harem. Secondly, she is addressed as Haseki in the series.
What Hurrem said was true. When Mahidevran had no one left. Her children still helped and respected her. From Bayized to Selim.
Precisely
But no denying Hurrem was ruthless
But the same wouldn't happen if the places switched, if hurrem lost her kids and became poor no one would help her
@@Leila-q3dEventually Mahedevran Saved Hurrem's son while he was drowning and Hurrem did this to him
For Beyazid, yes. Selim had Mustafa and Beyazid, even Cihangir as rivals. Beyazid loved his brothers Mustafa, Cihangir and Mehmed, but when Selim started to fight him, he should fight hi back, as he did. Selim never loved Mustafa or his brothers. He even was jealous of Mehmed, for he was the first one to the throne, his father gave him a change for the throne, he even built a throne over Mehmed's tomb.
They didnt do anything when suleyman treating her and their brother mustafa like trash
Mahidevran was much wiser in her old. If only it was much earlier..
Nothing would happen, sultan would have killed mustafa anyways
Nur fettahoglu killed the role of mahidevran 💯
She is a great actress..Looks like a royal lady
Lol Mahidervan always blames others but never takes responsibility for her actions and never regrets her sins.
6:50 what about you Mahidervan? Did you ask Lord fogiveness for your sins? For killing Mehmed, hurtiing Hurrem for years since day one, threatening her children, etc?
That’s why she what she deserved, as Mihrimah told her in the last Episode 139.
She never did, keep believing in this fictitious serial who justify witch hurrem
What are the sources that she killed Mehmed?
@@ValyX7I Have you watched the show even?
Hurrem had changed but mahidevran's beauty didn't changed
Mahidevran’s beauty? 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡
What beauty? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yea, she is a very beautiful woman.
@@danikameric9236 I am sure you are not half as beautiful as her
i mean.. that’s what her name means “one whose beauty never fades”
Remember guys this wasn’t immediately after Mustafa’s death, it was around 5 years afterwards. So Suleiman (show-version) didn’t visit his sons tomb for 5 years, and Mahidevran waited 5 years to say her words to Suleiman, that’s crazy! Her last words basically saying she doesn’t forgive him, imagine hearing that
In reality he never visited mustafa's tomb . He genuinely believed mustafa betrayed him and hence whatever happened was right . And he could care less if someone forgives him or not . As an emperor , during his long reign he had executed many and was immune to any such feelings such as guilt , remorse etc 😢 .
In real history Suleiman never visited Mustafa’s Tomb. And Suleiman doesn’t care if Mahidervan forgives him or not🤌🏼
@@sarahdemir776 honestly this for me, my opinion, didn't make him strong. Mustafa was always his son. Now in death he could forgive him
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 Can you provide reference for any documents where Suleiman refers to Mustafa as a traitor or dog after his death?
Just curious.
@@wazirmuhammad8999 The reference is in History. Suleiman called Mustafa traitor dog and never ever visited his grave. And yes, Mustafa was traitor in real history.
Mustapha's death was the start of a situation where weak sultans would follow and the downward slide would start for the great Ottoman empire.... Cursed man, Suleiman and cursed woman Hurrem.
Even though mahidevran wasn't a good sultana in this series but she was a very good mother.
it's not easy for a woman to lose the man she loved for years over a night beacuse of a concubine Mahidevarn suffered a lot due to suleiman's negligence she couldn't bear the burden she was very jealous and wanted to kill hurrem by any way her jealousy blinded her mind and she lost suleiman's love and respect she wasn't lucky as was hurrem but she was more merciful and patient than all of them
Yes...that's what I think too. She is a woman madly in love with her husband. How can she stand that. Her jealousy is justifiable. Suleiman ignored her badly which made her poisonous.
Surely Sultan will answer to Allah he was the only one who was responsible of his son's death as a ruler he should investigate the case of territory.....but he himself was blinded by the rage of thrown but Mustafa had no hunger for thrown and blood he was just a loyal and capable person of empire..my heart broke for Mustafa he was really innocent if the empire runs through Mustafa and his descendants Ottomans will become unstoppable
"The Future of Ottoman lies here in a cold and dark coffin" Couldn't be any more truer.
The future of Ottomans was Mehmed and Mahidervan killled him first.
@@danikameric9236 in the real life not. And after Mehmet, Mustafa was more talented
@@ramn_bennington hahahaaha! No the Future of Ottomans was Mehmed and Mahideviil killed him. So she should shuttupppp
The future of Ottomans was Sehzade Mehmed-Hurrem’s son and Mahideviil killed him first!
@@kawsarnaseri3208 Now you tell to me in real life what killed Mehmet
The most disliked thing about Mahidevran is that she never admits her mistake she always forgets what she does but always remembers the deeds of others. Now she is showing herself as a victim while whenever Suleiman was ill, Mahidevran used to plan kill Hurrem's children by wearing black clothes in the joy of Suleiman death.
She was also who asked her servant to kill Mehmet by transfering the disses
Mahi always played a victim 😎
If wealth,property& territory were such small temporary things for her...then why did she play all those dirty,cruel,scheming games te retain them and why she wished death fr suleiman & hurrem and even killed hurrem' s son mehmed mercilessly??😡😡now suddenly she became a philosopher??😎😎
@@catiecat9283 Exactly !
@@bharathiramesh5878 well said, 👍she played all dirty games at the time and now trying to be innocent.
Sultan Sulieman knew what kind of dirty game she has...and She plant ah seed by hatred to Mustafa to his Siblings from the very beginning and thats why Mustafa never Respect Hurrem but Kids of Hurrem Respect Mahiwicth..
6:50 You too, Mahidervan- beg forgiveness from God for killing Mehmed, because only God can forgive you! 🙏🏼
But God doesn’t forgive those who can’t see their sins and don’t repent them. Hurrem always knew her sins, so did Suleiman. That’s why they gained peace, but Mahidervan considered herself innocent victim and everyone else evils. I even feel sorry for her ignorance.
Lame and unoriginal bot
Know your sins don't make the people less guilty
@@ramn_bennington no one asked you
@@jeanneaubert4193 but I didn't question to one answer 🤣
@@ramn_bennington This is my post so don’t tag people, botttr
He couldn't say enething bcoz he knew Mahidrevan was right. That's how you know YOU have won!!!!!
Hahahahahaha! Where? Suleyiman knew Mahidevran was 🤮 She killled his innocent son Mehmed and never regrettedd!
He didn’t say because he knew Mahidevran was 🤡
Mahidervan as usual blames others in her misfortune and refuses to admit her own mistakes and sins!
4:56 the Sultanate lol! She killed Mehmed for Sultanate and power.
6:50 Mahidervan is the one who should ask God forgiveness for her sins. But she never will as she doesn’t even know her sins, she sees herself as saint!
Suleiman was smart and knew not to talk with 🤮🗑 woman. And won what? Mahidervan lost everything thanks to her greed.
Mahidervan had no remorse for her sins and evil she did! She acts like she is saint and others are evils, when she is the one eviill.
Mahidervan apparently forgot that she was the one who first killed Mehmed for the Sultanate and power that she is talking about at 4:49! She should be begging forgiving to Lord and Suleiman and to Hurrem, but she had no morals, no decency. That’s why she LOST big.
He didn’t talk to her as he knew she was embarrrassing and liiar 🤡 He was wayyy above her.
And mahidevran won what? 🤣🤣she lost everything and everyone!
4:56 she talks on Sultanate, when she literally killed Mehmed for sultanate and greed lmao!
6:50 she acts like saint telling Suleiman to ask forgiveness to God, when she never admitted her sins, her mistakes and never asked forgivess to God for anything.
But Lord knows the best- He gave Mahidervan long life full of loneliness and suffering, as she deserved! 🙏🏼
Say what, mahidevran lost already and she's as responsible as Suleiman.
The fact Suleiman doesn't answer means she doesn't even worth that.
Mahidervan had no remorse for her sins and evil she did! She acts like she is saint and others are evils, whereas Hurrem said- No one is innocent!
Mahidervan apparently forgot that she was the one who first killed Mehmed for the Sultanate and power that she is talking about at 4:49! The Audacity!
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Exactly! She was evil and she got her Karma! ✔️
@@kawsarnaseri3208 less than hurrem🤡
Though I admit Mahi is a stupid, didnt Hurrem try to kill Mustafa using efsun before mehmet's death? All kind of evil things were started by hurrem. She was the game changer. Yes, She did suffer a lot in the beginning but that doesnt give her the right to kill mustafa and ruin people/ ottomon dynasty.
in history she never killed mehmet
Suliman always gts extreme level of anger when anyone oppose his decision..in thz whole series frst time he dumbfounded n frnt f mahidevran....
He always seems dumbfounded. He is not a very good actor. He always seems just kind of stupid and spaced out.
Mahidervan as usual blames others in her misfortune and refuses to admit her own mistakes and sins!
4:56 the Sultanate lol! She killed Mehmed for Sultanate and power.
6:50 Mahidervan is the one who should ask God forgiveness for her sins. But she never will as she doesn’t even know her sins, she sees herself as saint!
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She had no morals and that’s why
Historically she did not, Mehmed died because he got sick and there is no proof she was responsible for his death. Even if she did kill him, she didn't kill him because she wanted power, she killed him because if he became Sultan he would have killed her son. The only person to blame here is Sulieman because he killed Mustafa despite him not being a threat to him.
in history she never killed mehmet
@@alexss4038 precisely
Mahidevran lost the gmae of throne
In all honesty, I find Sualiman was simply merciless to Mahidevran.
He seemed to forget the fact that Mahidevran gave him an heir( mUstafa) and this strengthened his claim to ascend the throne.
He could have done better. Even if he believed Mustafa commited a treason, he could at least consult Mahidevran.
Sulaiman was simply merciless here
This is the most intense scene in the series.
One part that I find simply magnificent was the scene where Hurrem paid a courtesy call to Mahidevran.
Here ,Hurrem who won the game of throne finally bowed to her rival, Mahidevran who lost everything in her life.
It was simply breathtaking
She loved MUSTAFA ❤ HER BOY
How could a Sultana ended in debt and minimal life. Sultan must have had abandoned his wife.
It’s sad that she lost her son. Was she sad for love or her inability to use him to get back at hurrem. If she thinks a dynasty is only those things then she remained blind to the end.
As always Mahidevran blaming the world around her and seeing herself as Saint and Victim! 🤦🏻♀️
4:56 What is sultanate? Did Mahidervan forget that she killed Mehmed for her greed for Sultanate and Throne?
6:50 Did Mahidervan beg God forgiveness for killing innocent Mehmed? For trying to poison pregnant Hurrem? For beating her, trying to kill her, for threatening Hurrem’s children? And she dares to talk on God and Forgiveness! 🤣🤣
Idiot she never did, keep believing in this half truth serial to blame mahi, and justify devil hurrem
Agreed
So true. As if she was so blameless….😅
But really, what do you expect her to do under the circumstances? Allow one of Hurrem's sons ascend the throne and kill her son? If anything, Sulaiman is responsible for all the issues between Mahidevran and Hurrem. He chose not to follow Ottoman rules by marrying a concubine and fathering more than one child with her. Of course thats going to cause strife, jealousy and resentment in the Harem, how could it not? Same with Gulfem; once their children died, he should have freed her and allowed her to marry someone else since he no longer wanted to be with her. Instead, he kept her around...still a slave and no chance of finding love for the rest of her life.. He allowed his feelings, desires and insecurities to cloud his judgment as a ruler.
Yet another bot with the same exact comment... 🤡
It’s so funny to hear Mahidervan constantly blaming everyone for her unhappiness, but never admitting her own sins.
4:56 she talks on Sultanate, when she literally killed Mehmed for sultanate and greed lmao!
6:50 she acts like saint telling Suleiman to ask forgiveness to God, when she never admitted her sins, her mistakes and never asked forgivess to God for anything.
But Lord knows the best- He gave her long life full of loneliness and suffering, as she deserved!
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Exactly, she is absolute embarrassment.
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
Mahidervan never admitted her sins, she only kept accusing others! 🤮
Mahideviil should shutttuppp, fall on her knees in front of Suleiman and Hurrem and ask for apology for the pain she caused!
Mahidervan killled Hurrem’s and Suleiman’s best Sehzade Mehmed-innocent Sehzade for her greed! Now she is talking on sins? 😆😆
6:50 It’s Mahidervan who should ask God forgiving for all her sins-especially for killing Mehmed!
That’s why Mahideviil got Karma for her sins. God knows the best! 🙏🏼
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She was liiar and embarrassing 🤡🗑
That’s why Mahideviil got Karrmaa in the end- she died alone and sufffering!
Facts! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Does that mean that Hurrem was innocent? Or a better said isnt it crystal clear that between Hurrem and her, which of the two was indeed the much evil one, isnt it clear its hurrem
I love how caring and kind Hurrems sons was to Mahideran
Bayzid really love and respect mahidevran😇❤. He saw her as her mother.👑💖✨
It has to do with culture and religious upbringing
One must accord respect to consort of his father
Wrong, Selim was the son who had a good relationship with Mustafa. Mehmed and Bayezid were considered threats. This is why when Selim becomes Sultan he assist Mahidevran.
A lot of bots in the comments. Look at the way their comments are basically word for word the same.
Yup
If there is one thing that different people with different perspectives on the show can agree upon, its that these bots are fkn annoying and brainless....ridiculous hydra heads😂🙄
I have fun with them 🤣 they are so stupids that make me laugh. Repeat always the same things
Yes; it's annoying.
I wish the channel would get someone to ban, or delete these spam comments. It makes the fandom and channel look cheap.
In the end Mahidevran stopped loving suleiman.
6:27 Mahidervan bows to Suleiman! 🛐🛐
It’s so funny to listen same complaints from Mahidervan-always accusing and blaming others but NEVER admitting her sins!
4:56 she says “What is sultanate? Was it worth it?” Really Mahidevill? Didn’t you kill Suleiman’s and Hurrem’s son for Sultanate and your own greed? 🥱
6:50 She tells Suleiman to ask forgiveness for killing liar, traiitor son. When was last time Mahidevran asked forgiveness to God, Suleiman or Hurrem for killing Mehmed or poisoning pregnant Hurrem? She never repented her sins and she thinks she is martyr here! 🤮
The God Mahidervan is talking about knew well who was sinner, that’s why she punnished Mahidevill and took away her only son, grandson, everything she had. God also gave her long and lonely life, so that she pays for every single sin she did to Suleiman and Hurrem! 🙏🏼✔️
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As she should! 🔥🔥🔥
Actually what happened to mahidevran's grandson?? Where did they take him??
@@devujayasudhan2991 They killed him.
A) the only one who had the Sultanate, was Syleiman. Don't forget what Syleiman said to Ibrahim Pasha at episode 82, with English subtitles (I don't remember the minute): "there is the possibility to put yourself in danger, especially people like you and me, who have power in our hands".
B) Mahidevran said if it was worthy. The answer is no, because having land and property, these are temporary things, family remains together and never ends. As for ruling people and determine their fate, no one except God had rhe right to do these things.
C) Mahidevran DIDN'T kill Mehmet in real life, Prince Mehmet died by the deadly dicease called "plague", which had eliminated the 1/3 of global population at that era, Ayaz Mehmet Pasha had died witb the same way.
D) Mahidevran didn't kill Mustafa, Syleiman killed Mustafa and Hurrem with Rustem had made Syleiman kill him. Shouldn't blame Syleiman? Syleiman executed his son. Mahidevran said the truth at Syleiman, as she did always. What's so funny about this? Hurrem didn't say to Fatma Sultana (Syleiman's sister) at episode 124, that Prince Mustafa had been executed by the orders of Syleiman? So who should blame? She should blame the one sho gave the order, so she blamed the right person, who was actually the one who had relationship a long time ago, the person who gave her their son in the world, Sultan Syleiman. She said that Hurrem will poison their dynasty, that she will get rid of everyone and finally not only Mahidevran and Mustafa had been eliminated by Hurrem the snake, but Syleiman himself too had been eliminated by Hurrem, which means that Hurrem's love for Syleiman was a huge lie, otherwise she wouldn't say that she would made Syleiman her slave. Her intentions towards him weren't good.
E) Mahidevran said to him to ask for forgiveness from God, in order to forgive him, because he killed his son. Concerning about he was innocemt or not, I don't know if he was inmocemt or not, but however Mustafa was Syleiman's son and killing a son is a very huge sin, even if he was guilty.
F) Concerning Mahidevran's sins, Hurrem made a huge sin too: she putted herself between the relation of a father and a son. She did all of these plots, in order to have ger children safe, but being between a father and a son is a huge sin, so God took Cihangir, just like he took Mehmet from Syleiman and Hurrem, after Ibrahim's execution (Hatice got killed as well, she committed suicide, but God punished them with these deaths). As for Hurrem, at least had two more sons, Beyazid and Selim, Mahidevran was alone after Mustafa's execution, which means that she was a true hero, even and even bigger that Hurrem. Is it the same to have four children and the same to have only one? Losing two of four sons is cruel, I will not disagree, but having one son and losing him, this is very injust and means that you will never feel okay ever again, you will be dead completely. Mahidevran lived another 28 years, after Mustafa's execution, she died at the age of 81. When she lost her son, she was 53 (1553 - 1500 = 53). Hurrem had also Mihrimah, except Beyazid and Selim, Mahidevran had only Mustafa, which means that she was more unlucky than Hurrem (Hurrem had stolen everything from her).
G) It was Syleiman who had neglected Mahidevran from the beginning, this was Syleiman's biggest sin, because Mahidevran was Haseki Sultana and the Ottomab law at that era was saying that the Sultan of the Empire should not leave all alone her. Also, it was forbitten from the law for Sultans (Syleiman for example) to marry slaves, so Syleiman committed another sin too. The third sin that he committed was that Haseki Sultana who was the mother of the future Sultan of the empire (Mahidevran and Mustafa) had the right to be in charge at the Harem (after the death of Syleima's mother) and not one slave. His next sin was the execution order to his sons and especially he was responsible for Cihangir's death. Also, he killed his grand-children (Mustafa's son and Beyazid's sons). Then, he neglected Mahidevran, being with Hurrem all the time, he forgot that he was the Sultan, so that means that he should be by the side of all his subjects and his biggest sin was that he became tyrant, he shed innocent blood, blood of family, his own blood, he became cruel just like his father. He swore to himself that no one would been killed and he had swore the same promise to his sister Hatice Sultana, to his mother and to Ibrahim Pasha, so he swore the same promise to four people (to himself, to his mother, to Ibrahim and to Hatice), but he broke his promise, because he was coward and stupid in order to have it fulfilled, so this was also Syleiman's sin. I will not say about Hurrem's sins, because I will not finish untill tomorrow. As for Mahidevran, God gave her Mustafa, Syleiman killed him, so God rewarded her (if it may be a reward for a mother who lost a son) with longlife. But what can a mother if her son losses his life? Would be able to stand this pain? Thankfully, Mahidevran didn't die, until she saw the murderers of her son dying: first Hurrem died, who made Syleiman kill Mustafa (and Ibrahim with the same way), Rustem died (who made Syleiman kill Mustafa, in collaboration with Hurrem. He helped Hurrem to get rid of Ibrahim, with the same way that they got rid of Mustafa), then it was Syleiman's time, then Selim's and Nurbany's. Selim thought that his payment to Mahidevran was enough for the damage that he had done to her, when he became Sultan. Her son, Prince Mustafa died because of some hyenas and because of his father, who couldn't see the truth, who never interrogated about his son's possible betrayal and he killed him merciless. What kind of idiots were Syleiman and Selim? They thought that money would be a good consolation for Mahidevran. At least, Selim should be more friendly with Mustafa, after all they were brother (even if they were born from different mothers), Syleiman was crazy from the beginning and he ended up just like he had risen up. At last, the murderers had paid and the divine justice had been fulfilled.
As an American married to a Turk, this show helps me make sense of my current life.
Don't get it twisted my life still don't make sense; but this show helps. Maybe because everyone is sad.
I need a hug man.
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Thank you my dear @@Cliffviewnightradiodj
Are Turkish people really treacherous, like in their shows??
good job mahidevran....suleiman deserved a slap....
If you are a human and you say that you never make any mistake then that’s your worst mistake.
5:13 look how silent the Sultan is while his 'concubine' is giving him a reality check, he knew he was guilty
Suleiman only killed Mustafa so he could reign longer, mustafa never betrayed Suleiman
The actors portraying mahidevran and Suleiman are magnificent too
Her words fell flat in his dead soul. Hurrem hollowed him out, to a shell of what he once was. His heart was eaten by Hurrem. He is now just her puppet, and does her bidding right or wrong.
You also killed by poisoning Prince Mehmet mahidervan, you killed him for the throne, now you know how painfulness hurrem felling and us as his funs:-)^_^
This was made up in the drama bro read history u will know the truth
And even worse, he killed Mustafa’s innocent child
And that was a fact a big one because mustafa was to be a wise king n ruler the declines of ottomans started with his death selim n the rest destroyed the empire with meaningless wars n inter conflicts the only set that could have ruled better too were Memhed and Kosem especially thier son Murad but memhed and murad didn’t live long
Mahidevran❤
Mahidevran is 🤮🗑🤡 She always blames others but never takes responsibility for her actions and never regrets her sins.
6:50 what about you Mahidervan? Did she ask Lord fogiveness for your sins? For killing Mehmed, hurtiing Hurrem for years since day one, threatening her children, etc?
That’s why she what she deserved, as Mihrimah told her in the last Episode 139.
Mahidervan is complete embarrassment. She never admitted her sins and evil. She used her son for power, she killed Hurrem’s son Mehmed for her greed and now has Audacity to talk this way to Suleiman.
Heaven sent Karma to her, and she deserved to live long suffering and die alone-the best ending for her.
@@lilymasood3O67 Still Better than Hurrem.....AND Fyi mahidevran didnt killed Mehmed in real life...mehmed died of smallpox....Makers did many things wrong to glorify hurrem...
@@lilymasood3O67 hurrem is 🤢🤮
Mehedora is @@Labs20052
No one was innocent in the show but the way mahidevran spoke; she didn't admit her mistake. Everyone else did but she was still blaming on others 🙄
Payal
Suleiman ordered the execution of his own son.
What would you expect a mother to react when she learnt that her son was executed by the order of his very own father.
Yes
Mahidevran was no saint. So was Sulaiamn and above all Hurrem.
Are you saying it is OK to slander Mustapha? Are you saying slander is acceptable.
Mihrimahnstile Mustoaha's seal, thus paving the way for Mustapha to be implicated.
The least Sulaiamn should do was to investigate.
The scene was tragic.
I am no fan of Mahidevran. But if you care to be objective, you would agree that what Mahidevran did was pale in comparison to ruthlessness of Hurrem.
@@shamshulanuar7718 Wait a minute, where tf did I said slander is ok or I am confortable with it😑 do not assume things which you don't know.
And wdy mean by 'what mahidevran did was pale to the ruthlessness of hurrem'.
You people don't watch the show and come here. Mahidevran started all this by first poisoning hurrem when she was pregnant with mehmet. And don't say, hurrem snatched "mahidevran's husband", he wasn't his husband and according to harem rule any woman can coitus with the ruler as per his wish.
And you see the stamp incindent only. Mustafa did many things against the order of suleiman or even without seeking his permission like gathering the army, distributing coins to them, fighting pirates and more despite many warnings. And nothing happens without the order of suleiman, he must have investigated it so don't blame hurrem for it; suleiman wanted it and he did it.
Mahidevran was the reason for mehmet's death according to show but you don't see it.
She started all this but hurrem ended it.
She fought against all of them alone but you see her "ruthlessness" what about others? Didn't they do anything to provoke hurrem?
AND I KNOW HER DEEDS BETTER THAN YOU BC I SUPPORT HURREM AND KNOW HER ACTIONS VERY WELL.
@@shamshulanuar7718 You are Mahidervan’s and Mustafa’s botttt! Mustafa was traiitooor! Get over it
Mahivmdevran is correct, Suleiman able to create a magnificent era for his own, but he can't create a magnificient for Ottoman in future. And it was true, after Suleiman's era, ottoman always loosing their territory. And the last greatest sultan is Abdul Hamid II.
5:16 if only mahidevran thought that when she gave the order of mehmet's death.😢
In real life Mehmet died of illness, but Mustafa was killed by Mhirihmah, Hurrem and Suleiman
What happened to mahidrevan fate is unfair and she never deserve it,, Hurem and Suleman are inhuman.. and not being to everybody
whatever mahidevan said was correct.Mustafa indeed was the future of the ottomans and this was the reason after Sulaiman’s death ottomans started to decline.Sulaiman is the villan here not hurrem nor mahidevran
Lmaoooo botttt! The future of Ottomans was Hurrem’s son Mehmed! And the Ottomans started to decline after 1830, this is hundreds years after Suleyiman! Read history, you🤡
Facts
@@lilymasood3O67 Beep boop beep boop 🤖
Someone needs to read history! 🤣🤣🤣 Mustafa was weakk and never good sehzade! The best Sehzade and future of Ottomans was Mehmed! Mahidervan killled him- she was eviiil!
Otttomans Empire started decclining in 1830 - hundreds years after Suleyiman and ended in 1922! So read history!
You clearly don’t know history! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The future of Ottomans was Mehmed-Hurrem’s son and Mahidervan killled him!
Ottomans started decclline after 1830 that’s hundreds years after Suleiman! Bottt
Sadly, suliman will be known as the sultan who killed many of his children.
He killed Mustafa first.
Followed by another son(not sure of name but read it) who supported Mustafa.
Killed Bayized.
May as well have killed Chingar as he took his own life after the death of Mustafa.
The one he should have killed honestly was Silim. He was a drunk, who during a visit in town killed a commoner for talking bad about him. He also destroyed the ottoman empire in the end.
Hahahahahahah! Botttt! Read history! Suleiman is known as greatest Sultan who made empire great! He is not first and last who killled Traiitor sons!
Jihanngir diied with Chroniicall illlness! Bottt!
And Selim was smart and good sultan! The Ottoman empire was strong until 1830 and ended in 1922, that’s hundreds years after Selim. Sit down now! Botttt!
What are you blllabbering Mustafa’s bott? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Suleiman is known as greatest sultan the MAGNIFICENT. He killled his traiittor sons Mustafa and Bayazid! As he should!
Jihangir diied with illlness that he had from childhoood!
And Selim was a very good sultan! The empire stayed strong hundreds years after Selim and ended in 1922, this is 400 years after Selim, U 🤡🤡
Hahahahahahaha! Bottt READ HISTORY, what are you blllabbering? 😆😆😆😆
Suleiman is known as greatest and smartest sultan in History, as Magnificent! Both Mustafa and Bayazid were traiiitors and were killled!
Cihangir never took his llife 🤣🤣 He diied with illlness that he had many years!
Selim was good, peaceful and kind sultan! He ruled 8 years and during his time the empire was strong! After him tens sultans came 😆 The empire ended in 1922, this is more than 400 years after Selim! Lmaoo READ HISTORY you🤡🗑🤦🏻♀️
Sadly for you, history doesn’t agree with you, U🤡 Suleyiman is known as most powerrful and smart Sultan MAGNIFICENT, he made empire greatest! He was and is LEGEND, so is his wiife Hurrem!
Suleiman killled Mustfafa and Bayazid as they were liiars and traiitors.
And Bayazid never killled himself😂 He was illl from childhoood for years and died of his chroniical illlness.
Selim was good sultan and ruled 8 years, he was peaceful and smart! After him came tens sultans! The empire stayed strong hundreds more years and ended in 1922 becoming Turrkeyy- this was hundreds years after Selim!
So READ HISTORY, Cloownnnnn!
@@gunescelik4207you guys are the bots lmao same comments everywhere giving false info
Mahidevran acts turn Mustafa to Suleiman's nightmare, after the things she did, Suleiman see nightmares that his son stole his kingdom and kill his kids and wife , Suleiman know Mustafa as his enemy long time before hurrme do something, Mahidevran knows what would make Suleiman angry but still does it, she was more into defeating Hurrem than caring for Mustafa
I want to see her speaking if her son was taking the throne.
Hard words? Oh, please! When she had Mustafa, she splendid her hate to everyone and saying that her son will destroyed Hürrem and everyone around her. But when she lost her son, she saying "right" words about Sultanate and power.
She is so pathetic! She kill innocent Mehmet and laughing! She took everything that she deserves!
I always think that the fault for Mustafa's death was of Suleiman. And even she made the same Mahidevran here make me tenderness. She for Mustafa, Hürrem for Mehmet and Cihangir. At least closer to Mother's day, any mama deserve to life above her kids.
For me Suleiman, as I have always said, continued this circle of envy of Mahidevran by reminding her that she was however "the mother of the first eldest son in life" and giving her the idea of being the future Valide. If he freed her Mehmet e Mustafa would still be alive in the show
Ps: I love how Mahidevran talk to Suleiman. Not with angry or screaming. And the last words are so powerful.
Mahidervan never was mother of first eldest son, Gulfem was! And stop blaming Suleiman- He always said Mehmed would be sultan.
And her words are embarrrassing! She always kept blaming others, never admitted that she killed Mehmed! She was 🤡🤡🤡
@@dakotaashleyneven start fight between two brothers isn't a intelligent choice. And Suleiman nobody saw off him on the throne. Not Mustafa, not Mehmet.
@@dakotaashleyn "eldest son alive". I don't think that one Şehzade that died could be the next Padişah
@@ramn_bennington Actually no; Mahidervan killed Mehmed because he was future Sehzade, not Mustafa! And nothing was powerrful in Mahidervan’s speech! She should ask forgiving for killling Mehmed 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 For me are powerful. I talk about my opinion in my comment, I don't say your opinion or my opinion. Everyone have her own point of wievs
Mahidevran doesn't really feel anything. She killed Mehmet and never regrets and now she is asking God for punishment for others. Why does she think that what happened to others is punishment but what happened to her is Cruelty .
@Leo Yes That's right.
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
she forgot how she was happy with the death of Mehmed's son Hurrem, she ordered his murder herself and everyone has to feel sorry for her Mustafa, the karma returns
Right, people love to feel bad for Mahidevran when she cast the first stone.
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
@@nwilliams2132 People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
You know its deep when an old poor powerless destoyed woman mahidevran kept saying the emperor of world suleiman harsh words and he kept silent and didn't say a single word shows he actually regretted killing Mustafa
It shows his negligence and partiality towards hurrem and her children that just because of mahidevran he started hating his own sons, he needed just one slander(a chance) and mustafa was killed
In the end, Suleiman,hurrem and mahidevran all were guilty
for their own wrongdoings
But Suleiman will still be remembered as the magnificent because of his conquests and contribution towards the ottoman state
The audacity of her to act like a saint….
The audacity to act like she’s the only one allowed to suffer….
Mahi talks about sultane and worth, but she was perpering mustafa for the same.
It's funny how memories are short, technically Mahidevran tried to kill Mehmet twice, when he was in Hurrem's womb and she succeeded the second time. Her jealousy, hate, and how she raised him help cause the death of her beloved Mustafa. She was always the victim, even to the end. She may have seen them (Suleman, Hurrem, etc.) die but in her way, her living was even worse.
Mahidevaran outlived everyone ..Suleiman,Hurrem and all hurrem's children...
It what goes around, comes around, Maidreven would be burning now
Really?
You've the audacity to say she must be burning. In the history she never killed mehmet. It was hurrem who was evil and poisoned Suleiman's heart. Stop being clowns all you hurrem fans!🤡
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
like this scene a lot...meaningful dialogues from Mahidevran
What mahidevran didn’t understand and suleman didnt realize it’s just not
Sultanate it was muslims glorious time. And to put in jeopardy was not
An option , there were many people with mustafa and suleman who brought them at this point bcz in the end nobody was thinking of sultanate but themselves
5:30 she described exactly why the Ottoman Empire declined after Suleiman died. Because of weak ineffectual rulers.
you all can hate her all you want, but in this moment she just told him the truth and was right
Hate Mahidevran but her performance in this latter part of the show is phenomenal. She is very convincing as a grieving mother who has lost everything and stopped caring about anything except keeping her son's memory alive.
Again mahidevran blames others
Because apart from others, she was the least bad.
@@ValyX7I she was the worst
@@DimSK. Well the show do not portray her that way. And most importantly history does not say that.
@@ValyX7I both history and show portray it
Not unlike Hurrem LMAO
Suleiman should not have killed Mustafa if Mustafa was rebellious he should have put him in house arrest or something like that
I love when she said "Was it worth it to kill you own son for temporary things "
Episode?
And in reality mahiduran never ever killed hurem son mehmat because there was no son of hurem but saleem was elder It’s only for dramatising
mahidevran talks like she dosnt know that she kill mehmet
Nah, the way Mahidevran speaks it’s as if she wanted nothing but her son’s welfare from the beginning when we all know she wanted him to inherit the sultanate for her own benefit. 🤣 she was as obsessed with it as Hurrem was
I beg to differ.
What would a mother do in her shoes.
Mustapha was not a carpenter. He was a prince . In fact the eldest son of the reigning Sultanm That would put him as the strongest claimant to the throne.
And that brings in enemy too.
Mahidevran was protecting her son .
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hahahahahaha! No! Mahidevran’s son didn’t have to be sultan because he was older! It didn’t work like this, botttt! The throne was Mehmed’s and Suleyiman made it clear! Mahdiervan was not protttecting her son! She wanted powerr
@@shamshulanuar7718 hahahahahaha! Whattttt? Mustafa was not the claimant to throne! The throne was Mehmed’s! It didn’t matter who was oldest! Suleiman’s father Selim became Sultan as he had oldest brother!
Mahidevran only wanted powerrr! Hurrem was prottecting her sons!
Hurrem’s words:
“I fought to protect my sons, not to ascend them on throne, because that would mean to lose Sultan Suleyman-the meaning of my life”!
Mahidervan’s words:
“Can’t wait to become Valide Sultana and return to the palace”. Try better 😆😆😆
No, Hurrem never wanted powerr, Mahidevran wanted powerr.
HURREM’S words: “I fought to protect my sons, not to ascend them on throne, because that would mean to lose Sultan Suleyman-the meaning of my life”!
MAHIDEVRAN’s words: “Can’t wait to become Valide Sultana, so that I return to the palace and kickk Hurrem and her chilldren out”.
Mahidevran wanted powerr and used her son for it. She was 🤮🤮🤮
No, Mahidervan was obbbsesssed with powerr, not Hurrem! Hurrem’s son Mehmed was future sultan, not Mustaffa. That’s why Mahidervan killed the best Sehzade Mehmed!
Hurrem never wanted sultanate for her sons; she was only protttecting them. These are her words:
“I fought to protect my sons, not to ascend them on throne, because that would mean to lose Sultan Suleyman-the meaning of my life”!
And here is Mahidervan’s words: “I can’t wait to return to the palace and claim the Valide Sultana status.”
Mahidervan wanted only powerr and used her son for it. She paid for her every sinnn! 👊🏼
In real life, mahidevran never killed mehmed, he died naturally, but hurrem and mihrima were involved in Mustafa's killing
Suleyman was the main protagonist and the maain antagonist of the show
The worst mistake that Suleiman did on his life was killing Mustafa 😢
Mahidevan always seems to forget that she was the one that had Mehmet killed. She also is not innocent as she portrays herself.
Maybe that is why she is so sure that what goes around comes around ..
In history she Didn't,, though is series she did but stil even according to series..hurrem nd suleyman was a way more evil than her..
Actually..it was Hurrem that made the move to show their kids weren't off limits. She didn't succeed back then but succeeded years later after Mahidevrian retaliated in the same way.
@@samhart4205 Mahidevran was first to draw the sword. She poisoned Hurrem when she was pregnant with Mehmet.
@@juliaserento9928 Actually, it was Hurrem that tried to sow the seeds of discord between Mustafa and Suleiman. She isolated them from each other, and hyped Suleiman's paranoia. Things come to such a head, that Hurrem openly asks Suleiman to *discipline* MUSTAFA, A PRINCE because he stood up to Hurrem for screaming at his mother. Hurrem wasn't stupid. So she clearly knew that she had Suleiman's ear enough to cause Mustafa harm because Suleiman and Mustafa's relationship was so deteriorated because of her.
When she says all these with so much audacity isn’t Mehmet also a son of a loving mother? whom she killed mercilessly for no fault of his. What goes around comes around. She is also asking sultan that all these he did for sultanate! Well, till the last minute of her son’s death she also played all sorts of nasty games for the sake sultanate, for power, to become Valide Sultana and make her Son Sultan, like anyone else. When son died hope set, life came to stand still she is talking like a saint. Perhaps she looks into herself she can find answers for all her suffering. (I mean the character called Mahidevran) Hurrem never brought her children ingesting poison, history says, Selim paid Mahidevran’s living expenses until she died at 84. If the story would have been other way around, Hurrem would have starved to death such is the way Mahidevran brought up her son, with no virtues.
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
@@mariaaaa67788
Many people in Turkey had issue with the series, the PM also was fuming against the series, we people across the globe witnessed the angst you expressed over a silly series.
If you have a problem with the soap opera please deal with the crew or director individually. Spare us.
We people paid for what was available on the Netflix not to learn your history but for entertainment.
The issue here is, I just spoke about the characters and their dialogues in the series, not one bit I mentioned anything at all about the ottoman rulers, I think you have serious issue. Stop picking up on random people on the internet. Please work on yourself.
PS: I don’t study history from Netflix, I go to school.
Powerful words by mahidevran so true
Really bottt? 😂😂😂😂 Shall we remind you that Mahideviil killed Mehmed? She is 🤡🤡🤡
@@gunescelik4207 no she didn't
Li
@@Aliaakaramm hahahahahahaha! As always Mahidevran blaming the world around her and seeing herself as Saint and Victim! 🤦🏻♀️
4:56 What is sultanate? Did Mahidervan forget that she killed Mehmed for her greed for Sultanate and Throne?
6:50 Did Mahidervan beg God forgiveness for killing innocent Mehmed? For trying to poison pregnant Hurrem? For beating her, trying to kill her, for threatening Hurrem’s children? And she dares to talk on God and Forgiveness! 🤣🤣
@@Aliaakaramm bwahahahhaahah! Mahidevill and powerrful? She is 🤡🗑 She is the one who should ask God forgiveness! She killed Mehmed and got her karrmaaaa
Mahideviil proving she is 🤡 She killled Mehmed first and got her karrmaaa! Hahahaha!
She did not seem to have a problem when she killed Mehmet
People like you dont bother to read history do u? Just believe everything what is shown in the drama? It was a made up thing just to justify hurrem’s evil deeds in the series as she was the main heroine
It always bothers me that it is acceptable to kill your siblings and their children for the throne. It's a small leap for there to killing your own child..!!!
Hurrem made father killed his son
God made her son's killed each other
Punished her with disease
Ottamine Empire sinks in darkness with the blood of innocent
God didn't spare hurrem(son's For a son)
God didn't spare Suleiman (demolition of Dynasty for throne he killed his son)