I believe that the key to horizon going back in time will be cooperating with wraith and Jack cooper because wraiths technology is similar and Jack can describe to wraith how the device worked and how to make one
the only reason cooper was able to travel between timestreams was because of the spacetime distortions caused by the fold weapon. plus he wasn’t the one that made the time gauntlet so he wouldn’t know much anyways. it’s more likely that horizon is going to travel to another universe through the void and the horizon that she saw with newton was from another universe, similar to the wraith voidwalker stuff.
I feel like he'd get nerfed hard. He ended up kicking everyone's ass despite being a grunt turned pilot in the campaign It'd be neat if he simply got pilot movement as his passive.
I'd rather have Cooper be a story character rather than a legend, kinda like how Blisk is only involved in the story. I feel like if they add him as a legend (same with Blisk) it would mess with his character to much and hurt chances for a TF3 even though it's already unlikely. It worked with Ash because that's what Ash does, she likes combat simulations.
It doesn't ruin the chances of that at all. In a hypothetical scenario where Jack Cooper gets added as a legend and they start developing Titanfall 3, all it would do is pull some focus away from his story since at least _some_ of the other legends would most likely be involved in the third game's story too, but there are ways they could work with that or work around it. Hell, if anything they could use Jack's addition to the legends roster for teasers for Titanfall 3. But at this point Titanfall 3 is never gonna happen, so who cares? Might as well use him and capitalize on the hype he brings instead of just.. not doing anything with him at all. There's still a lot they can do with him.
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I´m pretty sure that they want him dead. But i would not mess with Cooper. He would kill them with ease. He is just way way way better than them. He destroyed whole apex predator roster. Even Kuben gave him apex card to join him. He knew that Cooper was insane pilot.
I think most of us by now know that cooper could thrash the apex legends, especially in his prime, but with his age I think it’s a fair fight if not a bit unbalanced due to his experience
If Cooper joins, I want it to be like a limited time event gamemode where it's 1v10. 11 people queue up and one player gets randomly selected to play Cooper. He gets all the Titanfall movement and HUD as passive, six shots of smart pistol as tactical, and BT as his ultimate.
@@brandonleon5183 Thats the dumbest thing ever. We see Pilots legit explode people with a punch.... I hate that because there is no way a freaking grunt that are little more than ants to a human in titan Fall.....
@@fullsendabeerforme2988 ua-cam.com/video/uJxDhMWutkY/v-deo.html read em and weep, its cannon so get over it, instead of splitting the fan base be more exciting their gonna add a Pilot in the future to the game, keep up with your datamined
Followed by lore in Apex and Titanfall2 is that Jack Cooper is trying to find Keuben Blisk but cannot find him anywhere. He has to research with his squad mates to find him and talk to him about why Keuben didn't kill Jack. Keuben knows Jack will be in the Games but He has to get the other legends first in order to be noticed by Jack Cooper.
@@Del-Dokan I'll let this "Jack Cooper" tell her that himself, if the opportunity presents itself. Hearing or experiencing the painful truth from the person who delivered the blow is.... *a bloodbath* , and I like that. Cooper will then know a small glimpse of what I experience, having someone constantly finding ways to exact their revenge on you, just for doing something you had to do. She wouldn't believe me no matter what I tell her anyway
@@angelthiel9051 Nothing. I've been around long enough to see many people like him come and go. I don't care what he did or how great he was. *He's just another skinsuit to me*
Passive: Double Jump and Wall Run Tactical: Can turn invisible for ten seconds, however, if he shoots his gun his invisibility deactivates Ultimate: Titanfall, he can call a Titan that has a total of 500 HP, it has the Tone load out, 30 damage if it hits a target directly, 15 damage from splash damage, can punch for 50 damage, launch missiles like Valkyrie, each does the same amount as Valk’s missiles, when destroyed, Jack gets a launch that’s only about half the height of Valkyrie’s ultimate Possible Reviving Voicelines: Jack: I’ve killed a lot of IMC grunts, yet here I am helping one Bangalore: Their blood’s on your hands, saving me doesn’t clean them Jack: Sure Jack: The IMC weren’t exactly good people you know Bangalore: Good and bad’s all a matter of perspective Jack: I speak from the Outlands perspective Bangalore: With all the IMC grunts you’ve killed, I should just let you die Jack: After they tried to kill me, and everything they did, they deserved it Bangalore: Keep talking, “hero” Bangalore: Lotta IMC blood on your hands, maybe I should let you drown in it Jack: We’re soldiers, there’s probably a lot of Militia blood on your hands Bangalore: Then we’ll both drown in our sins Jack: I heard your father is Viper, if it’s any consolation he was one hell of a pilot Valkyrie: I know he was, so why’d you kill him? Jack: Simple, he was trying to kill me Jack: Killing your dad wasn’t personal Valkyrie: That doesn’t make it any better Jack: He chose his side, we all do Jack: I remember killing you, how are you back? Ash: I simply underestimated you, a mistake I won’t repeat Jack: You’re welcome by the way Jack: First I trashed you, now I’m putting you back together Ash: A fluke at best, you would never beat me again Jack: Let’s head to the firing range later and find test that theory Ash: If you can beat me, then how did you fall? Jack: Guess I’m not perfect Ash: Clearly Ash: You make pilots look bad, GET UP Jack: I make pilots look bad? That’s rich coming from you Ash: You are not better than me Possible Looting Voicelines: Jack: Thanks for the gear, glad it wasn’t IMC made Bangalore: Yeah, WE’RE the bad guys Bangalore: Thanks, you know the IMC weren’t all bad Jack: The order they held is far outweighed by the Fold Weapon Jack: Thanks, does this mean we’re cool now? Valkyrie: I don’t know, can you bring my dad back from the dead? Valkyrie: This doesn’t make up for what you did Jack: What happened with your father was business and war, I can’t change either things Jack: Thanks, are you gonna put me through another gauntlet? Ash: You weren’t challenged by the last one, but perhaps the Arenas would provide different results Ash: Your selection is adequate, as expected from an inferior pilot Jack: Right, INFERIOR Dibs Voicelines: Can you save that for me? I’ll take that Ultimate Voiceline: Ultimate’s ready! Standby for Titanfall Heirloom: Data Knife
As an ex G10 of titanfall 2 I would say that titanfall players will rule and normies will ask him to be nerfed despite him being that character that's like If you don't know how to use him : worst character in the game If you know how to use him : best character in the game
@@karvenman What? The only way tf2 players will rule is if they have movement. Wallrunning? Respawn already said they didn't want that. If they add double jump that makes a few characters obsolute.
I honestly don't think Mirage would be secrect about it if Jack joined the games. In fact it might be one of the few times we get to see the stumbling, stuttering Mirage finding his footing and getting angry. A lot like how Ash and Horizon interact.
If he will be added I expect him to have a broken kit or let him have wallsliding and faster agility for his passive. mfer was one of the leading pilots that wiped an entire roster of Apex Predators.
When Valk finally understands it wasn't Blisk who killed her father and that it was cooper will be the day Loba understands Revenant was told by hammond to kill her parents, one day. One. Day.
I think when Valk didn't shot Blisk she already know that she need to move on and left the feeling for revenging Viper behind so even if she knows that it was cooper that killed Viper She won't be mad or anything maybe they even became good friends
my theory is: the frontier militia put cooper into cryo sleep for future missions because he is expendable and his amazing skills but he got out and he is abandon in an old army facility but remembers blisk apex card because he needs a purpose to fight for himself(and needed answers from blisk to know where is the frontier now etc.)and thats it my theory.
Highly doubt he will join the apex games imo, cause it would be a MAAAASSIIIIIVE disrespect towards captain lastimosa who died by blisk, who runs the games, and BT so very unlikely, still respawn can do whatever they want with the story so who knows, but hey, nice theories kev
Yeah but "respawn a finds a way" But actually I think the reason for it is because fans love him and if it wasn't for titanfall 3 not happening i wouldn't think so
@@IAshuraI possibly, but the game doesnt advance much in story terms, you got the rev/loba in the same spot nothing happening, wraith only found out her name was hope in 11 seasons, bangalore is kinda finding something with her brother but its still in the same spot, crypto and caustic are stepbros, and its basically the same for the other legends, there is nothing, they're trying to put a story through twitter and comics where there should have been a story mode with missions added for each character ages ago, unfortunately they just care about selling skins and battle pass content
@@IAshuraI doubt it. Blisk doesn't run the games either, he is simply the commissioner. The real runners of the Apex Games is the Syndicate which are basically the real antagonists of the video game as a whole. Blisk simply works with them. A lot of time has passed between TF2 and Apex and the war is over. There's no reason Cooper would really want to kill Blisk or vice versa. At some point between the games Cooper probably even sat down and had a drink with Blisk and ended things on friendly terms. It's completely possible and respawn can just throw together whatever story they want to make him come into the Games. It's not exactly farfetched
Captain Lastimosa would want Cooper to do the honorable thing. Lastimosa wouldnt kill Blisk either if he was in Cooper’s shoes, remember, Lastimosa didnt like wars, he simply just wanted to help Cooper become a Pilot because cooper was looked down upon Also in the beginning cinematic of Titanfall 2, it was taking place in operation “fracture”. The same operation that BT tells cooper he “took place in and was severely injured by head trauma, causing severe memory loss” In the cinematic that rifleman that got blown back by a missile and watch BT-7274 and that Ronin fight was Jack Cooper (his helmet had J. Cooper embedded on a patch on it)
They should add bear, a character from the 6-4 who had almost no lore other than being some guy with the 6-4 who could be used as a "pilot" character because adding cooper would kinda destroy the chances of Titanfall 3 existing.
I get the feeling Jackson's disappearance might be related to where Cooper is hiding. Jackson might have found Cooper and they could've talked with Cooper and Jackson agreeing about the horrors of war and deciding to go radio silent then retiring to some peaceful planet. Hell, we could have Bangalore find both of them and convince them that the outlands have gotten worse and NEEDS their help.
This'll be the final nail in the coffin of Titanfall with how they'd sooner add Jack and continue his story on Apex rather than a proper snd more deserving sequel that explores his search or reuniting with BT-7274.
I mean you never know, maybe him joining the apex games is what leads to the story of titanfall 3 or vise versa Titanfall 3 ends with him joining the games
Yeah, I don't think Ash would be too pissed. However, the recent episode shows that Ash is pretty pissy at the fact that Leigh is around. She might be a little angry because him getting her crushed, ultimately led to Leigh resurfacing.
To explain the entire card thing you have to look up why the games were made. So basically the games are a way to recruit people to the apex predators after the old ones were killed in titanfall 2
When apex does eventually slow down and get less updates is when they are going to look into making titanfall 3 , because if one game that earns revenue dies they need to find another like titanfall 3.
I think copper should be a bit faster. This fast: Normal run--cooper-------octane boost And he should be able to wallrun. No cooldowns on wall running or speed. He’s a pilot; it’s about quick moves.
Here's my personal legend profile for Jack and its kinda long... "I served as a Rifleman in the Militia, fighting to free the Frontier, I was a long way from becoming a Pilot, but when that day came... I lived up to that honor..." The Pilot who defeated the IMC, the Pilot who killed the Apex Predators, the Pilot... that saved the Frontier! Name: Jack Cooper/Hero Age: 47 Birthday: 10/6/87 June 6th 2687 Height: 5.8 Weight: 185 LBS Eye Colour: Brown Hair Colour: Black Gender: Male Mental State: Sane Height: 5'8 Blood Type: A+ Birth Planet: Earth (Core) Home Planet: Harmony (Frontier) Language: English Rank: Rifleman Class-3 (Formerly) and Pilot Allegiance: Frontier Militia, 6-4, Marauder Corps and Special Recon Squadron Combat Unit: 41MRB-E Personality: A boy scout through and through, Jack is a all around good guy! While his slight cockiness and sarcasm still exists he is a polite gentlemen and is willing to help anyone that needs his help. Cooper is also a good soldier who is willing to lay down his life in protecting the innocent and defenseless in the Frontier and Outlands, but not as harsh as he did during war but most people back then just shot at him! Being a man of actions not words so he only talks when needed, he also calls the Legends he knows by name, obviously not believing in such titles... Perks: As a Pilot, Jack's quick reflexes has warranted him many different types of training such as hand to hand combat and many different types of disarming tactics! His armor is also fitted with advanced Frontier tech that allow him to do many different attacks. Legend Type: Offence Passive: (Jack of all Trades) Limited advanced movement, wallrun and double jump. Ability: (Teleporting terror) A Simple instant teleport that allows Jack to jump 15 feet infront of him. Ultimate: (Repulsor) Jack uses hie advanced tech to push all enemies near him away. Quotes and quips: "Just doing my job..." "BEEETEEE!!!" "A Pilot can see world differently..." "Longer relationships than I've ever had!" "Trust me." "Heh heh I think someone's in love..." "Its high noon!" "You can say that again!" Achievements: Saving the Militia home planet of Harmony, destroying the planet Typhon and single handedly killing all of the ferocious Apex Predators! Bio: After the war for the Frontier ended, Jack may have lost his good friend and Titan, BT-7274 but Coop had saved the Galaxy from destruction. After that he was tasked with clearing out the remnants of the IMC, eventually participating In the horrific battle of Gridiron where he actually survived and once the Militia was back to full strength it fortified the worlds of Frontier, ready for the next counter attack by the IMC but... no attack never came and by the year 2734 the Frontier is now a Utopia and under guard of the thousands of Militia battle cruisers and naval blockades but... there was one corner of the Galaxy that the Militia was concerned about. Syndicate Space or just the Outlands so the highest of Militia brass tasked the now Older and veteran Jack Cooper to travel to the Outlands, but once arriving there, Jack found out that his former Nemesis, Kuban Blisk had reformed the Apex Predators into the Apex Legends and Jack remembered his invitation that the Predator gave him all those years ago... he also realised that Kairi Imahara also know as Valkyrie, the Daughter of Viper was in the games aswell, this triggered a overwhelming guilt in Jack's heart and it was time to him to Apologise to her and see if his invitation was still valid, besides he has nothing better to do...
Everyone gonna go crazy when respawn teases cooper joining the apex games. Also, he gotta have an ultimate that gives squadmates a limited time ability to wall run
I feel like cooper's ability would be pretty op Passive: advanced wall running and wall climbing or you should say, pilot experience Tactical: able to throw a gadget that allows him to stun enemies while leaving him completely flawless, he can also stick it onto walls that act as a trap or a stop for enemy squads(just like ash's tactical pretty much) Ultimate: smart pistol
Seeing Cooper return to the story would be great. However, i don't really want him to come back by being a playable character in Apex because it wouldn't make much sense for him to be in that role.
I think adding Jack cooper will be unfair to Ash only because he beat her once and if Horizon is there then I bet those 2 will double team her every chance they could get 😂
@@apexgear2340 it really would be a revenant thing to do lol 😆 😂 Revenant: "thats the guy that killed your dad Kairi!" *points to Cooper as he's saying in a mocking tone* Cooper: *surprised Pikachu face*
It's definetly gonna happen. I mean they are adding blisk and already added ash so its definetly gonna happen and I feel he's gonna be the last legend. It would just make sense because he'd be the most hype
As much as I feel like it'd be cool, I kinda wish they would stop adding unnecessary TitanFall characters unless it fit with the story (Like Ash Kinda) It's not like I dislike TitanFall cause it's a great game, but I just feel that sometimes the devs go the lazy route by adding a pre-made character into the story rather than creating a new likeable character with the creativity that I know they're capable of. Idk just saying; Apex is just a game in the end 🤷♂️
@@grAnita- he's been confirmed leaked since S0 on the old dev sheet. However he reappeared on a newer leaked legends list back in S6 showing all upcoming legends going to S13. The list is obviously correct with all of them being true and only 2 legends left from the list. That's husaria (mad maggie) and the 2nd being Blisk.
Great vid, I actually had an idea for a jack cooper ability set. Here it is: Passive: Wallrunning, but it has only a certain amount of time, like Valkyrie's jetpack, and it recharges Tactical: He puts down a tick, that can be directed towards a person or place, like a mirage decoy, and will act like a normal tick, but to make it better, he can choose to detonate it by pressing the tactical button again. It would work as a semi counter to ramparts walls Ultimate: He pulls out a smart pistol, but it has a very short range, it has a damage fallow were it does say 50 damage from within 5 meters, after 5 meters, it goes down to like say 25 and than after 15 meters, it doesn't lock on, but i think itl work like ramparts ult, were it can be put away with ammo still in it, and be pulled out again later. Btw this was thought up in like 2 minutes, so it isn't perfect, it will still need some balancing
My theories on Jacks abilities Passive: Wall runs/ Double jump since pilots like him had special training for equipment like that Tactical: Goes invisible for a short amount of time, if you shoot the ability will deactivate Ultimate: I cant think of anything
Ultimate could be a nerfed smart pistol. Another decent tactical could be the force field Titan ability that catches bullets and returns them to enemies. Passive is perfect though.
The ultimate could be BT helping or buffing the entire team through being uploaded into Coopers helmet or comms. “Protocol three protect the pilot.” And when activated BT patches in and restores the entire teams shields to full
cannonical jack cooper abilities: passive: pilot jumpkit that allows wallrunning and titanfall esc. sliding. tactical: cloak ultimate: titanfall. not sure how this could be balanced, but i would love to see BT again.
It’s interesting because the 3 that hate him are Bangalore and Valkyrie and Mirage two of them are in a love triangle the difference is Bangalore and Valkyrie will also want revenge but I don’t think Mirage would go that far which puts a dilemma in play as if Bangalore and Valkyrie look for backup choices would have to be made and it doesn’t look good for Mirage as Pathfinder would just want everything to be friends (neutral) and though Wraith may want to side with Mirage personal and want to ask Cooper questions any progress on Bangalore will be lost but on the other hand siding with Bangalore, Mirage would take that hard because of his abandonment issues and then with Loba well obviously she would choose Valkyrie and Bangalore because she doesn’t have anything to gain from protecting Cooper and but looses everything if she does the only other guarantee on Mirage’s side is Rampart because although she may hate him she stands nothing to gain on the side to kill Cooper but would lose everything if she did so the tipping point could be very interesting.
What they can do for cooper is by makign him an OW-Ash clone... and make his ultimate calling forth BT in a Reaper body. Then the reason he join is simple: Just to keep his buddy alive
@@kevkevv_ Perceived Balance (since a Reaper will still just a be a bit taller than most legends), and has less polygon clipping needed to go into interior space. Otherwise it will be a glorified Trident with the same area limitation issue.
I think that a better option for Cooper would be to make him an announcer for a PvE L4D-style gamemode that has Titanfall style movement. Not just is it more fitting for his gamemode to be titanfall themed, but he's too important of a character to he downgraded to legend.
I'm pretty sure the only reason why jack isn't in the games is cause they're trying to figure out his voice lines, legendary skins, ect cause I mean it's a lot to do cause it's so much history and unique voice lines that need to be figured out between different legends
i feel like cooper might be happy to see ash knowing that he finally saw someone that he fought with or that he knew a long time ago. and same for ash probably
If he did I want them to make up that he use the rebirth system (which would make him younger) that is in the lore of tf2 but forgets some stuff so he joins cause the last thing he has to remember is the apex legends card. If not him with the rebirth than atleast someone from the frontier version of the apex predators (can't remember group name).
Ok. I know this vid have a year and Cooper didn't come yet but I think it still is possible for him to join. IMC did capture 2 vanguard titans to make monarch. Even tho those titans were destroyed there's a chance there's an AI core was still in them. All it takes for Blisk to make Cooper to join is flash an vanguard core in front of camera and say something like" I have something you want".
I'm also wondering if they will tackle the theory of IMC pilot jack cooper (if you dont know the theory its basically jack went therw the regeneration process and was found by the militia and sent to rifleman as to not have him suspicious of why he is a pilot but has no memory of training with the militia. Keep in mind the regeneration process is considered illegal.) A second thing I'm wondering is what happened to the advocates and if they are like a rival organization to the syndicate.
I think if they added actual lore accurate cooper, he would dominate because he has official training, unlike most of the characters (same for ash) +titans and increased strength and mobility
Movie idea: blisk tells everyone separately that they’ve become an official apex predator and that they each have a mission… to hunt and kill jack cooper and they all hunt him down on different planets as he tries to rebuild BT and in the end it’s jack and BT vs blisk
Hunt and kill Jack Cooper… when he literally gave Cooper the card for Apex and didnt have anything personal against cooper because he literally said “i dont work for free”. Blisk and Cooper have the understanding that they’re both 2 fighters on opposite sides. If anything, i think Blisk and Cooper would sit down after the war and have a drink
I would absolutely hate if this happens because it would be the final nail in the coffin for the best shooter game in history. I really don’t like EAs slot machine games
wasnt the apex card destroyed in the planetairy explosion? I feel like blisk would just remember what jack did and let him in even though he doesnt have the card
The thing with octane is that he is literally based of a speedrunner in titanfall2 so he actually is jack cooper from the dev perspective but they said that he always wanted to be like someone: the pilots so he would like cooper
Its kinda unfair if he gets to be treated like a normal legend. He is futeristic captain americka with fast regeneration, better training, more strength, a hud and Military backing. He should be like a juggernaut where multiple squads try to take him down. I mean bangolore is a grunt, a good one, but a grunt. Octane is a kid. Gibby is not a military operation trained person but a safe and rescue trained dude. Caustic is a scientist. Crypto is a hacker with tech but cant go public. And bloodhound is a hunter with some teck. Jack cooper is a war hardend perfect soldiere, who fought the best mercanaries himself. Only revenant can beat jack skillwise. So i hope respawn doesnt make him pathetic like they did rev. Oh and valk is just a angry kid with tech and doesnt understand that her father was a killer for hire.
i mean, Cooper and Bangalore are technically on the same level. She was doing pilot training herself. Without the jump kit, he's just like everyone else.
@@denizmergen418 yes- not elite in the slightest. he literally wasn't even technically a pilot in the campaign, just an acting one who hadn't even been inducted officially. he's a rifleman- aka, a grunt, like bangalore, who also received pilot training herself, similar to Cooper (but on the side of the imc)
@@flat-seventh let me put it this way a vanguard pilot can defeat multiple other pilots ez apex predotors eat vanguard pilots for breakfeast you killed all of em
@@denizmergen418 he also did that with bt who was an experimental titan chassis that outclassed all the apex predators Cooper is skilled. But if you somehow replaced Cooper with Bangalore in that campaign, with a jump kit and all the same equipment, I get the feeing she’d do just fine- though I’m not sure her and bt would have gotten along
Honestly would be pretty cool. His passive: Pilot's Grace. He gets a speed boost and the ability to wallrun after running for a period of time. Tatical: Cloak. He cloaks himself using similar tech as in Titanfall. Ultimate: Seer Kit. He gets a smart pistol, with only one magazine, the bullets work like Vantage's rifle.
I never expected ash tbh i wanted her to stay in arenas and wanted blisk to come to the game and thought the rampart town takeover was hinting it but who knows
Blisk is coming but not yet. Him and Ash were leaked back in S6 upcoming legends list. Only 2 are left to release now from that list. Husaria and blisk. Husaria is code named for Mad Maggie for S12 and Blisk is expected S13 since he would be the only one left from the list. However it's possible Blisk gets pushed back to S14 or S15 if needed for the storyline.
Age 47 is maybe not a big age in titanfall universe because they are living in 28th century. They definitely have long lifespan and youth than present day humans
I like to think that the card was both that originally it meant you can join the apex predators team but when the games were made it meant you could join without qualifiers
i dont think cooper will join the apex games, though its most from my own headcanon about the relationship between cooper and blisk, which there isnt really any. cooper just thinks of blisk as the one who killed lastimosa, and blisk thinks of cooper as the one who got away, and - much to his chagrin - a hero. blisk was so impressed with cooper's skill and prowess he offered him a place in the apex predators, but cooper cared so little about it he just let the card slide off his titan while he resolved to sacrifice himself to save Harmony.
Valkryie: "You took everything away from me"
Cooper: "I dont even know who you are"
Classic
valk: "you killed my father"
cooper: "do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
Pro pilot with flying mech gets destroyed by a rifle men and a random robot seems legit
Oh god
Lol viper is my least favorite boss😂
I feel like horizon and cooper would talk due to the fact Cooper had done time travel and had the technology once so he might be able to help her.
Oh yea I completely forgot about that, I wonder how that interaction will go
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@@MTHR3E no
I believe that the key to horizon going back in time will be cooperating with wraith and Jack cooper because wraiths technology is similar and Jack can describe to wraith how the device worked and how to make one
the only reason cooper was able to travel between timestreams was because of the spacetime distortions caused by the fold weapon. plus he wasn’t the one that made the time gauntlet so he wouldn’t know much anyways. it’s more likely that horizon is going to travel to another universe through the void and the horizon that she saw with newton was from another universe, similar to the wraith voidwalker stuff.
I feel like he'd get nerfed hard.
He ended up kicking everyone's ass despite being a grunt turned pilot in the campaign
It'd be neat if he simply got pilot movement as his passive.
I agree however it be unfortunately too op
What if Pilot Movement isn't passive but a Skill like Octane?
Regular movement as passive, wall jumps as tactical, invis and ultimate
passive wall running or double jump tactical pulse blade or cloak and ult smart pistol
Oh no - gets grapple pilot flashbacks -
Blisk- "hey you going to join my games"
Jack: "yeah time to teach these kids how the grown ups play"
That would be an awesome cinematic to see in a future story of the outlands for Cooper
Fuse and horizon:... But...
one shot melee go BONK
@@pige0223 in titanfall 2, I got threw all the pilots on the mission you kill viper just by punching and kneeing them
“I mean sure you killed my mentor and I slaughtered your team in response (orders are orders) but ya sure, no hard feels”
I'd rather have Cooper be a story character rather than a legend, kinda like how Blisk is only involved in the story. I feel like if they add him as a legend (same with Blisk) it would mess with his character to much and hurt chances for a TF3 even though it's already unlikely. It worked with Ash because that's what Ash does, she likes combat simulations.
Bad news blisk might be coming
I don't think adding jack Cooper as a legend would hurt tf3 as apes legends takes place in another time line therefore everything is fine
Tf3 is definitely more than “unlikely”, probably more like never gonna happen
It doesn't ruin the chances of that at all. In a hypothetical scenario where Jack Cooper gets added as a legend and they start developing Titanfall 3, all it would do is pull some focus away from his story since at least _some_ of the other legends would most likely be involved in the third game's story too, but there are ways they could work with that or work around it. Hell, if anything they could use Jack's addition to the legends roster for teasers for Titanfall 3.
But at this point Titanfall 3 is never gonna happen, so who cares? Might as well use him and capitalize on the hype he brings instead of just.. not doing anything with him at all. There's still a lot they can do with him.
@@gabeitches87 I get what you are saying, and I agree in some ways but A cashgrab really I mean cooper is so much better than that
Be interested to see how Loba would react after knowing Cooper was vipers killer since she is close to valkraye.
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I´m pretty sure that they want him dead. But i would not mess with Cooper. He would kill them with ease. He is just way way way better than them. He destroyed whole apex predator roster. Even Kuben gave him apex card to join him. He knew that Cooper was insane pilot.
Would be more interesting to see valkyries reaction then lobas
I think most of us by now know that cooper could thrash the apex legends, especially in his prime, but with his age I think it’s a fair fight if not a bit unbalanced due to his experience
i agree.🙋
A few would still give give him a challenge though Rev and Ash for example.
@@Oceb rev is probably strong enough to be a pilot with correct equipment and some training. Ash already is soo makes sense
Well
While that can be true experience might not be as good since apex has new guns and a lot of Titanfall guns were modified
@@Oceb Cooper committed murder on ash hard
If Cooper joins, I want it to be like a limited time event gamemode where it's 1v10. 11 people queue up and one player gets randomly selected to play Cooper. He gets all the Titanfall movement and HUD as passive, six shots of smart pistol as tactical, and BT as his ultimate.
gers depressed once bt dies
It’s already proven Bangalore can take out a pilot alone, so wouldn’t be a far fetch for the other legends to do the same. So it wouldn’t make sense
@@brandonleon5183 Thats the dumbest thing ever. We see Pilots legit explode people with a punch.... I hate that because there is no way a freaking grunt that are little more than ants to a human in titan Fall.....
@@brandonleon5183 Bangalore is one of the most stupid fuckin characters in the game, she wouldn’t stand a damn chance.
@@fullsendabeerforme2988 ua-cam.com/video/uJxDhMWutkY/v-deo.html
read em and weep, its cannon so get over it, instead of splitting the fan base be more exciting their gonna add a Pilot in the future to the game, keep up with your datamined
All the theories match up almost perfectly, and I *KNOW* that valk is gonna be pissed.
Wait. When Copper got his card, he didn't take it. The card fell to the ground and he left it there. Then Typhon was destroyed.
Still, blisk would remember him anyways, he can just send him a new card anytime
Followed by lore in Apex and Titanfall2 is that Jack Cooper is trying to find Keuben Blisk but cannot find him anywhere. He has to research with his squad mates to find him and talk to him about why Keuben didn't kill Jack. Keuben knows Jack will be in the Games but He has to get the other legends first in order to be noticed by Jack Cooper.
@@apexiw blisk would probably remember a pilot who destroyed an entire planet with the help of his titan
In lore, he actually keeps it. In the after credits of TF2 when it´s revealed BT is still alive you can see the card next to his helmet.
@@Zenek7274 yes I can see
The lore between him and ash would be awesome
Hmmm
Hey Rev, you're gonna tell my daughter that Cooper killed me, riiiight?
@@Del-Dokan I'll let this "Jack Cooper" tell her that himself, if the opportunity presents itself. Hearing or experiencing the painful truth from the person who delivered the blow is.... *a bloodbath* , and I like that. Cooper will then know a small glimpse of what I experience, having someone constantly finding ways to exact their revenge on you, just for doing something you had to do. She wouldn't believe me no matter what I tell her anyway
@@revenant9277 let me ask you something Caleb if he really did join say that if he did how would your reaction going to be and what would you do
@@angelthiel9051 Nothing. I've been around long enough to see many people like him come and go. I don't care what he did or how great he was. *He's just another skinsuit to me*
Passive: Double Jump and Wall Run
Tactical: Can turn invisible for ten seconds, however, if he shoots his gun his invisibility deactivates
Ultimate: Titanfall, he can call a Titan that has a total of 500 HP, it has the Tone load out, 30 damage if it hits a target directly, 15 damage from splash damage, can punch for 50 damage, launch missiles like Valkyrie, each does the same amount as Valk’s missiles, when destroyed, Jack gets a launch that’s only about half the height of Valkyrie’s ultimate
Possible Reviving Voicelines:
Jack: I’ve killed a lot of IMC grunts, yet here I am helping one
Bangalore: Their blood’s on your hands, saving me doesn’t clean them
Jack: Sure
Jack: The IMC weren’t exactly good people you know
Bangalore: Good and bad’s all a matter of perspective
Jack: I speak from the Outlands perspective
Bangalore: With all the IMC grunts you’ve killed, I should just let you die
Jack: After they tried to kill me, and everything they did, they deserved it
Bangalore: Keep talking, “hero”
Bangalore: Lotta IMC blood on your hands, maybe I should let you drown in it
Jack: We’re soldiers, there’s probably a lot of Militia blood on your hands
Bangalore: Then we’ll both drown in our sins
Jack: I heard your father is Viper, if it’s any consolation he was one hell of a pilot
Valkyrie: I know he was, so why’d you kill him?
Jack: Simple, he was trying to kill me
Jack: Killing your dad wasn’t personal
Valkyrie: That doesn’t make it any better
Jack: He chose his side, we all do
Jack: I remember killing you, how are you back?
Ash: I simply underestimated you, a mistake I won’t repeat
Jack: You’re welcome by the way
Jack: First I trashed you, now I’m putting you back together
Ash: A fluke at best, you would never beat me again
Jack: Let’s head to the firing range later and find test that theory
Ash: If you can beat me, then how did you fall?
Jack: Guess I’m not perfect
Ash: Clearly
Ash: You make pilots look bad, GET UP
Jack: I make pilots look bad? That’s rich coming from you
Ash: You are not better than me
Possible Looting Voicelines:
Jack: Thanks for the gear, glad it wasn’t IMC made
Bangalore: Yeah, WE’RE the bad guys
Bangalore: Thanks, you know the IMC weren’t all bad
Jack: The order they held is far outweighed by the Fold Weapon
Jack: Thanks, does this mean we’re cool now?
Valkyrie: I don’t know, can you bring my dad back from the dead?
Valkyrie: This doesn’t make up for what you did
Jack: What happened with your father was business and war, I can’t change either things
Jack: Thanks, are you gonna put me through another gauntlet?
Ash: You weren’t challenged by the last one, but perhaps the Arenas would provide different results
Ash: Your selection is adequate, as expected from an inferior pilot
Jack: Right, INFERIOR
Dibs Voicelines:
Can you save that for me?
I’ll take that
Ultimate Voiceline: Ultimate’s ready! Standby for Titanfall
Heirloom: Data Knife
So much effort of you. I hope that Jack will be a legend
Why you have only 5 likes?
Ash: *Joins the games*
Cooper and horizon: “so anyway I started blasting”
Personally I would love to see Jack Cooper in Apex
Personally? I think everyone would love to see Jack Cooper in the Apex Games
Same
Same
Meh... I'll allow it
I agree with this, but I still want Titanfall 3
If jack cooper joins the games then I will buy everyone a toy
Make sure it’s a car one
I want a clacker
I'd like a furby please-
As an ex G10 of titanfall 2 I would say that titanfall players will rule and normies will ask him to be nerfed despite him being that character that's like
If you don't know how to use him : worst character in the game
If you know how to use him : best character in the game
@@karvenman What? The only way tf2 players will rule is if they have movement. Wallrunning? Respawn already said they didn't want that. If they add double jump that makes a few characters obsolute.
I hope there’s an event where jack cooper basically “revives” bt. He finds his data core and bt becomes the arenas announcer
That would be sick
Nah I think bt is gone
Dude got decimated
@@MarcoTheDarco when you look at the cutscene where bt flies into the ark before it explodes something gets launched away
I mean technically BT has connection which was approved by the helmet blinking so it could actually happen
I honestly don't think Mirage would be secrect about it if Jack joined the games. In fact it might be one of the few times we get to see the stumbling, stuttering Mirage finding his footing and getting angry. A lot like how Ash and Horizon interact.
If he will be added I expect him to have a broken kit or let him have wallsliding and faster agility for his passive.
mfer was one of the leading pilots that wiped an entire roster of Apex Predators.
When Valk finally understands it wasn't Blisk who killed her father and that it was cooper will be the day Loba understands Revenant was told by hammond to kill her parents, one day. One. Day.
Nah lets be honest Revenant enjoyed harassing Loba about her dead parents even before the whole source code thing
Doubt valk even cares. All she has done is chase loba’s pus
imagine if this is true then all of this leads up to the legends somehow destorying the syndicate
@@pigeon1177 Would be nice
I think when Valk didn't shot Blisk
she already know that she need to move on
and left the feeling for revenging Viper behind
so even if she knows that it was cooper that killed Viper
She won't be mad or anything
maybe they even became good friends
my theory is: the frontier militia put cooper into cryo sleep for future missions because he is expendable and his amazing skills but he got out and he is abandon in an old army facility but remembers blisk apex card because he needs a purpose to fight for himself(and needed answers from blisk to know where is the frontier now etc.)and thats it my theory.
Highly doubt he will join the apex games imo, cause it would be a MAAAASSIIIIIVE disrespect towards captain lastimosa who died by blisk, who runs the games, and BT so very unlikely, still respawn can do whatever they want with the story so who knows, but hey, nice theories kev
Yeah but "respawn a finds a way"
But actually I think the reason for it is because fans love him and if it wasn't for titanfall 3 not happening i wouldn't think so
I mean they could make cooper join the games to try to take down blisk bc he runs it
@@IAshuraI possibly, but the game doesnt advance much in story terms, you got the rev/loba in the same spot nothing happening, wraith only found out her name was hope in 11 seasons, bangalore is kinda finding something with her brother but its still in the same spot, crypto and caustic are stepbros, and its basically the same for the other legends, there is nothing, they're trying to put a story through twitter and comics where there should have been a story mode with missions added for each character ages ago, unfortunately they just care about selling skins and battle pass content
@@IAshuraI doubt it. Blisk doesn't run the games either, he is simply the commissioner. The real runners of the Apex Games is the Syndicate which are basically the real antagonists of the video game as a whole.
Blisk simply works with them.
A lot of time has passed between TF2 and Apex and the war is over. There's no reason Cooper would really want to kill Blisk or vice versa.
At some point between the games Cooper probably even sat down and had a drink with Blisk and ended things on friendly terms. It's completely possible and respawn can just throw together whatever story they want to make him come into the Games. It's not exactly farfetched
Captain Lastimosa would want Cooper to do the honorable thing. Lastimosa wouldnt kill Blisk either if he was in Cooper’s shoes, remember, Lastimosa didnt like wars, he simply just wanted to help Cooper become a Pilot because cooper was looked down upon
Also in the beginning cinematic of Titanfall 2, it was taking place in operation “fracture”. The same operation that BT tells cooper he “took place in and was severely injured by head trauma, causing severe memory loss”
In the cinematic that rifleman that got blown back by a missile and watch BT-7274 and that Ronin fight was Jack Cooper (his helmet had J. Cooper embedded on a patch on it)
They should add bear, a character from the 6-4 who had almost no lore other than being some guy with the 6-4 who could be used as a "pilot" character because adding cooper would kinda destroy the chances of Titanfall 3 existing.
I don't think Respawn will make a Titanfall 3 cause their main focus is Apex Legends right now
@@loadshedding_ literally everything else is their focus except titanfall.
Bear wouldn’t make sense though cause he has no lore, it would make more sense to introduce someone like Gates.
i rlly want a pilot to be part of the apex games because I hope wallrunning will be their passive
Lol a cloak pilot
@@MarcoTheDarco He's Ability Will probably
Passive idk
Tactical wall running (haves a Stamina bar)
Ult Cloack
@@justarandomnumberinthecomm8022 passive prob will be double jumping
@@MarcoTheDarco probably lol
Well, there’s already a pilot in the game lol
I get the feeling Jackson's disappearance might be related to where Cooper is hiding. Jackson might have found Cooper and they could've talked with Cooper and Jackson agreeing about the horrors of war and deciding to go radio silent then retiring to some peaceful planet.
Hell, we could have Bangalore find both of them and convince them that the outlands have gotten worse and NEEDS their help.
If they ever added him into the game. They best give the respect his is due.
This'll be the final nail in the coffin of Titanfall with how they'd sooner add Jack and continue his story on Apex rather than a proper snd more deserving sequel that explores his search or reuniting with BT-7274.
I mean you never know, maybe him joining the apex games is what leads to the story of titanfall 3 or vise versa Titanfall 3 ends with him joining the games
Yeah, I don't think Ash would be too pissed. However, the recent episode shows that Ash is pretty pissy at the fact that Leigh is around. She might be a little angry because him getting her crushed, ultimately led to Leigh resurfacing.
To explain the entire card thing you have to look up why the games were made. So basically the games are a way to recruit people to the apex predators after the old ones were killed in titanfall 2
If Cooper gets added to Apex his heirloom should be the data knife that he gets from BT in the S.E.R.E. kit
Tbh if he joins the potential for his heirloom would be crazy
BT's finger?
Maybe BTs voicebox and when you hold it he will talk stuff to you
Data Knife
Dataknife probably
Dataknife, photo of bt, photo of lastimosa
When apex does eventually slow down and get less updates is when they are going to look into making titanfall 3 , because if one game that earns revenue dies they need to find another like titanfall 3.
I think copper should be a bit faster. This fast:
Normal run--cooper-------octane boost
And he should be able to wallrun.
No cooldowns on wall running or speed. He’s a pilot; it’s about quick moves.
Here's my personal legend profile for Jack and its kinda long...
"I served as a Rifleman in the Militia, fighting to free the Frontier, I was a long way from becoming a Pilot, but when that day came... I lived up to that honor..."
The Pilot who defeated the IMC, the Pilot who killed the Apex Predators, the Pilot... that saved the Frontier!
Name: Jack Cooper/Hero
Age: 47
Birthday: 10/6/87 June 6th 2687
Height: 5.8
Weight: 185 LBS
Eye Colour: Brown
Hair Colour: Black
Gender: Male
Mental State: Sane
Height: 5'8
Blood Type: A+
Birth Planet: Earth (Core)
Home Planet: Harmony (Frontier)
Language: English
Rank: Rifleman Class-3 (Formerly) and Pilot
Allegiance: Frontier Militia, 6-4, Marauder Corps and Special Recon Squadron
Combat Unit: 41MRB-E
Personality: A boy scout through and through, Jack is a all around good guy! While his slight cockiness and sarcasm still exists he is a polite gentlemen and is willing to help anyone that needs his help. Cooper is also a good soldier who is willing to lay down his life in protecting the innocent and defenseless in the Frontier and Outlands, but not as harsh as he did during war but most people back then just shot at him! Being a man of actions not words so he only talks when needed, he also calls the Legends he knows by name, obviously not believing in such titles...
Perks: As a Pilot, Jack's quick reflexes has warranted him many different types of training such as hand to hand combat and many different types of disarming tactics! His armor is also fitted with advanced Frontier tech that allow him to do many different attacks.
Legend Type: Offence
Passive: (Jack of all Trades) Limited advanced movement, wallrun and double jump.
Ability: (Teleporting terror) A Simple instant teleport that allows Jack to jump 15 feet infront of him.
Ultimate: (Repulsor) Jack uses hie advanced tech to push all enemies near him away.
Quotes and quips:
"Just doing my job..."
"BEEETEEE!!!"
"A Pilot can see world differently..."
"Longer relationships than I've ever had!"
"Trust me."
"Heh heh I think someone's in love..."
"Its high noon!"
"You can say that again!"
Achievements: Saving the Militia home planet of Harmony, destroying the planet Typhon and single handedly killing all of the ferocious Apex Predators!
Bio:
After the war for the Frontier ended, Jack may have lost his good friend and Titan, BT-7274 but Coop had saved the Galaxy from destruction. After that he was tasked with clearing out the remnants of the IMC, eventually participating In the horrific battle of Gridiron where he actually survived and once the Militia was back to full strength it fortified the worlds of Frontier, ready for the next counter attack by the IMC but... no attack never came and by the year 2734 the Frontier is now a Utopia and under guard of the thousands of Militia battle cruisers and naval blockades but... there was one corner of the Galaxy that the Militia was concerned about. Syndicate Space or just the Outlands so the highest of Militia brass tasked the now Older and veteran Jack Cooper to travel to the Outlands, but once arriving there, Jack found out that his former Nemesis, Kuban Blisk had reformed the Apex Predators into the Apex Legends and Jack remembered his invitation that the Predator gave him all those years ago... he also realised that Kairi Imahara also know as Valkyrie, the Daughter of Viper was in the games aswell, this triggered a overwhelming guilt in Jack's heart and it was time to him to Apologise to her and see if his invitation was still valid, besides he has nothing better to do...
Shit that looks like and oficial info
Only thing that wallrun should could be done with a limited time because would be broken
@@Jdud. oh thanks dude!
@@officialkirbyfan6899 it really well done
Beeeeeteeee!!!!
@@tgm2104 heh
Everyone gonna go crazy when respawn teases cooper joining the apex games. Also, he gotta have an ultimate that gives squadmates a limited time ability to wall run
Now I desperately want jack cooper to become a legend and then have a set of events reviving BT like how ash was brought back.
Even if Cooper isn't a legend, I would still like to see what someone like droz
I feel like cooper's ability would be pretty op
Passive: advanced wall running and wall climbing or you should say, pilot experience
Tactical: able to throw a gadget that allows him to stun enemies while leaving him completely flawless, he can also stick it onto walls that act as a trap or a stop for enemy squads(just like ash's tactical pretty much)
Ultimate: smart pistol
The ultimate will be the smart pistol
@@Mi_tala yes the terror of getting aimbotted will be non bannable if they add it
Ehh I would think it would be the same as titanfall 2 but with his ultimate being a smart pistol
Seeing Cooper return to the story would be great.
However, i don't really want him to come back by being a playable character in Apex because it wouldn't make much sense for him to be in that role.
I really hope Jack Cooper becomes a legend in the game
Id love to see him talk about Mirages uncle, though im guessing Valk will be pissed at Mirage and Copper if that happens
I think adding Jack cooper will be unfair to Ash only because he beat her once and if Horizon is there then I bet those 2 will double team her every chance they could get 😂
Imagine Valks reaction to fidning out Cooper killed her dad
@@apexgear2340 it really would be a revenant thing to do lol 😆 😂
Revenant: "thats the guy that killed your dad Kairi!" *points to Cooper as he's saying in a mocking tone*
Cooper: *surprised Pikachu face*
@@davidpoa7775 lmao
@@apexgear2340 this is gonna get spicy then
@@apexgear2340 and id be like "Where the hell were you you when this happened!"
It's definetly gonna happen. I mean they are adding blisk and already added ash so its definetly gonna happen and I feel he's gonna be the last legend. It would just make sense because he'd be the most hype
As much as I feel like it'd be cool, I kinda wish they would stop adding unnecessary TitanFall characters unless it fit with the story (Like Ash Kinda) It's not like I dislike TitanFall cause it's a great game, but I just feel that sometimes the devs go the lazy route by adding a pre-made character into the story rather than creating a new likeable character with the creativity that I know they're capable of. Idk just saying; Apex is just a game in the end 🤷♂️
They are going to add Blisk? Is it confirmed?
He was leaked
For sure lol.
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@@grAnita- he's been confirmed leaked since S0 on the old dev sheet. However he reappeared on a newer leaked legends list back in S6 showing all upcoming legends going to S13.
The list is obviously correct with all of them being true and only 2 legends left from the list.
That's husaria (mad maggie) and the 2nd being Blisk.
I forgot that Jack Cooper killed Valkyries dad
Great vid, I actually had an idea for a jack cooper ability set.
Here it is:
Passive: Wallrunning, but it has only a certain amount of time, like Valkyrie's jetpack, and it recharges
Tactical: He puts down a tick, that can be directed towards a person or place, like a mirage decoy, and will act like a normal tick, but to make it better, he can choose to detonate it by pressing the tactical button again. It would work as a semi counter to ramparts walls
Ultimate: He pulls out a smart pistol, but it has a very short range, it has a damage fallow were it does say 50 damage from within 5 meters, after 5 meters, it goes down to like say 25 and than after 15 meters, it doesn't lock on, but i think itl work like ramparts ult, were it can be put away with ammo still in it, and be pulled out again later.
Btw this was thought up in like 2 minutes, so it isn't perfect, it will still need some balancing
Na his tackle would be clock as that was what he had in tf2
@@kevkevv_ no ether the invisibility or phasing
@@godsavethequeen4675 no phasing that only happened from the folds space time distortion
@@willowworth9349 true
My theories on Jacks abilities
Passive: Wall runs/ Double jump since pilots like him had special training for equipment like that
Tactical: Goes invisible for a short amount of time, if you shoot the ability will deactivate
Ultimate: I cant think of anything
Ultimate could be a nerfed smart pistol. Another decent tactical could be the force field Titan ability that catches bullets and returns them to enemies. Passive is perfect though.
@@shinobi007YT Cool ideas, i considered the smart pistol too but thought it may be too op
tactical is too op, plus mirage kinda have that
That sounds kinda op.
The ultimate could be BT helping or buffing the entire team through being uploaded into Coopers helmet or comms.
“Protocol three protect the pilot.”
And when activated BT patches in and restores the entire teams shields to full
The way you sound next and last is mysteriously similar it driving me insane lol
Keep up good work
You raise some good points, I’m excited to see if you predicted correctly.
Cooper : hey bang... Nice knife you got there.
Wait, what about the "other MRVIN" that is also looking for its creator? Is that from Titanfall 2 or is that some sort of leak for Apex?
Cant wait for Cooper to join! More Titan fall lore is always so great, also hope BT gets mentioned :D
“This is for you BT”
@@Kyletsosie 😁
Or when he uses jump pad he yells BT
@@willowworth9349 that'll actually be sick :D
Why do I feel like high fiving pathfinder while smiling is someone jack would do
The card will probably just be a plot device for a mission in a future game where the mc(might not even be Cooper) needs to infiltrate the apex games.
Imagine Coopers passive is wallrunning
cannonical jack cooper abilities:
passive: pilot jumpkit that allows wallrunning and titanfall esc. sliding.
tactical: cloak
ultimate: titanfall. not sure how this could be balanced, but i would love to see BT again.
It’s interesting because the 3 that hate him are Bangalore and Valkyrie and Mirage two of them are in a love triangle the difference is Bangalore and Valkyrie will also want revenge but I don’t think Mirage would go that far which puts a dilemma in play as if Bangalore and Valkyrie look for backup choices would have to be made and it doesn’t look good for Mirage as Pathfinder would just want everything to be friends (neutral) and though Wraith may want to side with Mirage personal and want to ask Cooper questions any progress on Bangalore will be lost but on the other hand siding with Bangalore, Mirage would take that hard because of his abandonment issues and then with Loba well obviously she would choose Valkyrie and Bangalore because she doesn’t have anything to gain from protecting Cooper and but looses everything if she does the only other guarantee on Mirage’s side is Rampart because although she may hate him she stands nothing to gain on the side to kill Cooper but would lose everything if she did so the tipping point could be very interesting.
copper sneaks up behind ash and imitates bt's voice: ENEMY PILOT ENGAGED
ash:ERROR 404 PTSD SYSTEM ACTIVATED
He shouldn’t get invis as an ult… rather a bloodhound mode where he gets to use his pilot movement for 15-20 seconds
I can definitely see him becoming a character in the game
What Cooper would say to octane:Nobody cared who I was until I put on the helmet.
What they can do for cooper is by makign him an OW-Ash clone... and make his ultimate calling forth BT in a Reaper body. Then the reason he join is simple: Just to keep his buddy alive
What's an OW?
Why a reaper instead of jack getting a old vanguard and putting bt into it
@@kevkevv_ Perceived Balance (since a Reaper will still just a be a bit taller than most legends), and has less polygon clipping needed to go into interior space. Otherwise it will be a glorified Trident with the same area limitation issue.
Revenant is such a messy bottom that does sound exactly like something a messy queen like him would do.🤣
I think that a better option for Cooper would be to make him an announcer for a PvE L4D-style gamemode that has Titanfall style movement. Not just is it more fitting for his gamemode to be titanfall themed, but he's too important of a character to he downgraded to legend.
I'm pretty sure the only reason why jack isn't in the games is cause they're trying to figure out his voice lines, legendary skins, ect cause I mean it's a lot to do cause it's so much history and unique voice lines that need to be figured out between different legends
Well I honestly wouldn't doubt if this would happen since I heard that they have at least the next 4 legends planned out.
His kit could be a 3 second wall run as a passive double jump as a tactical with a 8 second cool down and a smart pistol which deals 60 dmg
The real question is how will the srs feel 🤔
i feel like cooper might be happy to see ash knowing that he finally saw someone that he fought with or that he knew a long time ago. and same for ash probably
If he did I want them to make up that he use the rebirth system (which would make him younger) that is in the lore of tf2 but forgets some stuff so he joins cause the last thing he has to remember is the apex legends card. If not him with the rebirth than atleast someone from the frontier version of the apex predators (can't remember group name).
doesnt make you younger per say, it just rids your body of injuries and wipes your mind
it wasnt cooper that killed valkyrie's dad, it was the spitfire meta that still haunts players for many years now
Me who is in love with hemlock : what’s a spitfire
The card Blisk gave Cooper was to join the Apex Predators, not the Apex Games
Ok. I know this vid have a year and Cooper didn't come yet but I think it still is possible for him to join. IMC did capture 2 vanguard titans to make monarch. Even tho those titans were destroyed there's a chance there's an AI core was still in them. All it takes for Blisk to make Cooper to join is flash an vanguard core in front of camera and say something like" I have something you want".
I'm also wondering if they will tackle the theory of IMC pilot jack cooper (if you dont know the theory its basically jack went therw the regeneration process and was found by the militia and sent to rifleman as to not have him suspicious of why he is a pilot but has no memory of training with the militia. Keep in mind the regeneration process is considered illegal.)
A second thing I'm wondering is what happened to the advocates and if they are like a rival organization to the syndicate.
I think if they added actual lore accurate cooper, he would dominate because he has official training, unlike most of the characters (same for ash) +titans and increased strength and mobility
I just wanted the wall running to be back bro
Movie idea: blisk tells everyone separately that they’ve become an official apex predator and that they each have a mission… to hunt and kill jack cooper and they all hunt him down on different planets as he tries to rebuild BT and in the end it’s jack and BT vs blisk
Hunt and kill Jack Cooper… when he literally gave Cooper the card for Apex and didnt have anything personal against cooper because he literally said “i dont work for free”.
Blisk and Cooper have the understanding that they’re both 2 fighters on opposite sides. If anything, i think Blisk and Cooper would sit down after the war and have a drink
I feel like he'll be added as a ai controlled ally for a limited time game mode
I would absolutely hate if this happens because it would be the final nail in the coffin for the best shooter game in history. I really don’t like EAs slot machine games
wasnt the apex card destroyed in the planetairy explosion?
I feel like blisk would just remember what jack did and let him in even though he doesnt have the card
Man I just love revenant. He's just such a funny character.
He’s joining to finish the job of ending the viper bloodline and killing all simulacrum pilots
Imagine the voice lines between valk and jack cooper
I can already imagine one “your dad was a pussy man used North Star and cored every 5 seconds
When you try and help you end up looking like the bad guy or end up losing a lot of friends or family.
I have a feeling for his passive he will have a walla running mechanic or double jump and as an ult he'll have smart pistol
Would be kinda dumb tho. Double jump would be the most likely and aimbot as an ult? Could be possible but still dumb.
@@savagedeviljho2879 and what would his ult be because we can’t have bt blowing a fucking planet up again
The thing with octane is that he is literally based of a speedrunner in titanfall2 so he actually is jack cooper from the dev perspective but they said that he always wanted to be like someone: the pilots so he would like cooper
Its kinda unfair if he gets to be treated like a normal legend. He is futeristic captain americka with fast regeneration, better training, more strength, a hud and Military backing. He should be like a juggernaut where multiple squads try to take him down. I mean bangolore is a grunt, a good one, but a grunt. Octane is a kid. Gibby is not a military operation trained person but a safe and rescue trained dude. Caustic is a scientist. Crypto is a hacker with tech but cant go public. And bloodhound is a hunter with some teck. Jack cooper is a war hardend perfect soldiere, who fought the best mercanaries himself. Only revenant can beat jack skillwise. So i hope respawn doesnt make him pathetic like they did rev. Oh and valk is just a angry kid with tech and doesnt understand that her father was a killer for hire.
i mean, Cooper and Bangalore are technically on the same level. She was doing pilot training herself. Without the jump kit, he's just like everyone else.
@@flat-seventh do you know how elite of pilot cooper is
@@denizmergen418 yes- not elite in the slightest. he literally wasn't even technically a pilot in the campaign, just an acting one who hadn't even been inducted officially. he's a rifleman- aka, a grunt, like bangalore, who also received pilot training herself, similar to Cooper (but on the side of the imc)
@@flat-seventh let me put it this way a vanguard pilot can defeat multiple other pilots ez apex predotors eat vanguard pilots for breakfeast you killed all of em
@@denizmergen418 he also did that with bt who was an experimental titan chassis that outclassed all the apex predators
Cooper is skilled. But if you somehow replaced Cooper with Bangalore in that campaign, with a jump kit and all the same equipment, I get the feeing she’d do just fine- though I’m not sure her and bt would have gotten along
Honestly would be pretty cool.
His passive: Pilot's Grace.
He gets a speed boost and the ability to wallrun after running for a period of time.
Tatical: Cloak.
He cloaks himself using similar tech as in Titanfall.
Ultimate: Seer Kit.
He gets a smart pistol, with only one magazine, the bullets work like Vantage's rifle.
Oh god you only need one mag when it’s a smart pistol
@@godsavethequeen4675 thd ultimate should be titanfall
@@cakefun1266 bro that would be so overpowered
I never expected ash tbh i wanted her to stay in arenas and wanted blisk to come to the game and thought the rampart town takeover was hinting it but who knows
Blisk is coming but not yet. Him and Ash were leaked back in S6 upcoming legends list.
Only 2 are left to release now from that list.
Husaria and blisk.
Husaria is code named for Mad Maggie for S12 and Blisk is expected S13 since he would be the only one left from the list.
However it's possible Blisk gets pushed back to S14 or S15 if needed for the storyline.
Fucking better add Jack cooper. Passive “Protocol 3 protect the pilot.”
My only question is how would blisk react to this if Jack joined
Blisk respects Cooper a lot, so I dont think he would care
Cant wait to play jack cooper and merk Valkry mains
I hope respawn makes a final Apex update and puts full attention on TF3 and Fallen order.
Yeah
And then like 15 years since apex last update they upload a trailer called : " Insert what new apex legends game should be called"
I would main the hell out of cooper no doubt, his desing is amazing... Just imagine the skins that he would get!!
Wait what’s the major detail he should keep from wraith? I’m confused a bit
He blew up her planet
Age 47 is maybe not a big age in titanfall universe because they are living in 28th century. They definitely have long lifespan and youth than present day humans
I feel that cooper would clap valkeri do to the fact that he has more experience and is more mobile
And is used to flying shit heads
Cough cough Viper cough
I like to think that the card was both that originally it meant you can join the apex predators team but when the games were made it meant you could join without qualifiers
And I thought having a pilot in the game would be awesome
Valkyrie - "How'd you know that devilbot?"
Revenant - "I've seen the other side, daddy says hello!"
i dont think cooper will join the apex games, though its most from my own headcanon about the relationship between cooper and blisk, which there isnt really any.
cooper just thinks of blisk as the one who killed lastimosa, and blisk thinks of cooper as the one who got away, and - much to his chagrin - a hero.
blisk was so impressed with cooper's skill and prowess he offered him a place in the apex predators, but cooper cared so little about it he just let the card slide off his titan while he resolved to sacrifice himself to save Harmony.
this guy gonna wall run and call his robo guy in team fight