Even a year after you did this it holds up.I'm sure you know of his recent "prediction" he did as well as the shirt with what you said on it in a recent interview
@@namelessjedi2242 Scott. I remember him saying that they were already scraping the bottom of the for classic characters. I'm guessing they didn't want to jump into The New Adventures because he knew how weak that series is, and without the nostalgia factor, the platform will quickly lose subscribers.
I will admit it was a funny gag and the nod to it with the figure was funny. But I didn't think it would become lore/cannon. Or even cause such an uproar.
@@namelessjedi2242 I did, it was me. It was the only MOTU thing I ever saw. That I liked and I said, “ Scott, boyo, if I can’t wrestle Battle of the Planets into this He-Man thing you keeps blathering on about, what can you do with Steve Martin’s character from Little Shop, now there was a movie.” Yup, that’s how the conversation went, still sad he didn’t come with the Banjo I asked for though, that woulda been the shit right there I tell ya.
The Masters line had Barbarians, demons from other dimensions, cowboys(Rio Blast), Ninjas, transforming Rock People etc.... Why would a superhero type be out of place?
I was a subscriber from day one. I never had an issue with Scott or his canon. Some of it was done to copyright the intellectual MOTU properies which were due to expire. Notice few characters had name changes due to those rights expiring. Outside of Scott, nobody else at Mattel saw value in MOTU. The success of classics relaunched MOTU.
You never had an issue with Scott's cannon? I hope not. But we're talking canon here, not genitals. Go talk about his cannon on the appropriate slashboards.
I subscribed but not every year. Some years were crap offerings that, honestly, did not justify having to put up with Digital River. Including Neitlich's vanity Spector project. The horrible job that Digital River did pretty much killed half of the value proposition of Mattycollector.
Yet you can't say that palace guard face or the Mighty Specter were needed things. Well, all my guards look pristine, just the one with the Neitlich face has the most dinged up armor.
I hate multiverse. 200x is one of the rare exceptions where the reboot is superior to the original show. If you rewatch the 80's cartoon you immediately notice it's not aged as well as transformers or gi joe.
So... you're saying that the 200X series DIDN'T shit the bed at retail? I can't speak to most of this, but I firmly believe that the online subscription model WAS the only way Classics was going to happen, and it's CERTAINLY the only way they were able to just drop deep-cuts all over the place. Your assertions regarding their market viability do not hold water. Ghostbusters and He-Man are back on shelves now because there is media to market it now.
@@Theopheus That whole thing was in response to the last original MOTU Wave.... the HE-Man property was "HAWT" and needed more merchandise.... This made Mattel overproduce secondary characters which didn't sell.... Apparently the public wanted He-Man cause there was a new wave of kids getting into the cartoon.... This is what they said int those Netflix Documentaries....
Mattel bought the license for Ghostbusters because there was supposed to be a new movie around 2010, but Bill Murray blocked it because of his feud with Harold Ramis. Mattel would have put it in stores if GB3 came out back then. But no movie, no retail. Hasbro has since made toys because there have been two new movies.
I was never a He-man fan. My kid brother was, but I ran out of steam for action figures after my Mego Batman stuff, Star Wars, and GI Joe. My brother loved every conceivable IP, and collected them his whole life. But this channel is priceless so I am really enjoying this story, even if He-man was never my bag. You can always intrigue me by mocking Kevin Smith. He just sucks.
By the way, my advice is 3D modeling, 3D scanning, 3D printing, and no pity whatsoever for the corpo-cunts that have wrecked the industry. Take it all away from them. The only thing they have to sell is the concept of "official" and when they can't enforce that, they can't monetize it. So strip it away from Scot Dicklick and the rest of the rancid slime that have trainwrecked this hobby. Build your own.
Prior to working on Masters of the Universe, Scott Neitlich worked in other toy lines under Mattel. One of those lines was Hot Wheels, and under the Hot Wheels label you'll find the name "Spector" used twice in their products (as far as I know): one such "Spector" was a skeleton-themed car. The other Hot Wheels "Spector" came out under Mattel's very own take on the Transformers, the "Modifighters". There was a subset of smaller Modifighters, and under that subset sure enough you'll find a robot named "Spector".
Why is it bad though? If He is the word for power in that world all they did was just make the name “world correct” ( I can’t think of a way to describe it).
I haven't seen a lot of this guy's videos, and there are some valid points in this one about Mattel, but there are many other points running off of false information and obvious bias. A Neutral take, this is not.
Multiverse like Time Travel is very hard to pull off. You have to plan ahead from multiple causalities. And have it be incredibly dangerous. Otherwise the villains would use it constantly. Or have it be fun and gimmicky. Bill and Ted makes absolutely no sense but I enjoy the hell out of it.
The character of Spector isn't as OP as people have made him out to be. Scott went out of his way to explain this to people and try to have that reflected in the figure. Around his thigh is a holster with these green test tube looking widgets. Those are like fuel rods that power either his pistol or his time travel device. He has a limited number of them and when they're gone, they're gone. So he literally would have a set number of trips he can go on, and also would have to decide between "fight or flight" as he can't use up all those rods on combat, or else how the hell would he get back home? It's actually an intriguing part of the character and always appreciated that aspect of him.
Toys like comics and video games are niche cultures that have gone mainstream. But they're run by corporations that actively prey on their customers. Selling the cheapest product for the highest prices.
I kind of feel a core idea of MotU Classics was to combine elements from all the previous He-Man "canons" (mini-comics, Filmation, and the 2000s reboot) into one as a toyline that celebrated all of the brand. Does that idea actually work? Debatable, as a lot of times the writing had to jump through a lot of hoops to fit seemingly contradictory things together, and invent a lot of stuff to fill the gaps. But ultimately I do respect what they set out to do. Now, should it be "The" definitive version of the MotU? universe I don't think so. Preferring only the mini-comics or Filmation or the reboot canon and ignoring the others is just as valid, if not more so, than trying to reconsile different versions of the brand that were created largely independently from each other into a single whole. It's kind of unfortunate that MotU Classics kind of ends up being treated that way, rather than as just "a" version of the MotU universe. Not sure how much of that it Neytlich's own fault, though, because while he does a lot of videos about the lore of MotU Classics (which he wrote), he also does seem to consider MotU a multiverse that can have different equally valid versions of the universe (of which Classics is just one take).
@@dedalionarts6077 I mean attach all continuities into one story in a modified way through a multiverse like said in the video. I believe it’s called transformers legacy
You’re obviously wrong about reboot culture. It’s not about lacking the talent to continue a story, it’s about resetting a storyline to the point where the largest possible audience cohort will be familiar with the goings-on. It’s the same reason any movie with “the final chapter” in the title will abandon any attempt at deep continuity.
@@somethingclever8916 I’m not praising them. Just presenting applying the old adage “Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.” Retro’s explaination, frankly, sounds paranoid in the extreme.
I enjoyed the video. I revisited my vintage MOTU at the end of 2018 and never even heard of MOTUC until I was searching for vintage figures, I needed to complete my collection. I'm sure I would have bought into the Classics if only I knew about them.
Just saw that Scott recently did an interview with the idiots at ClownfishTV. I should have expected a company man like Neitlich to happily and openly converse with grifters if it means getting a bigger platform. This video aged like fine wine Michael 👍🏻
My big problem, at least in NJ is that stores dont stock anything. Empty shelves everywhere, so im forced to buy online if i want anything. But then places like Walmart and Target randomly cancel your orders and say the payment couldnt be recieved, even though i just got a package from them the day before.
@@hq9344 thank you for directing me towards another toy channel. I appreciate that. Have you checked out Bobby Skullface? If not, I highly recommend his channel. It is very Transformers centric. He offers a very distinct viewpoint and you can tell he truly has a real love for toys.
@@hq9344 i dont think mercys a scumbag. tony had a right to be mad at him but thats between them and apparently mercy gave tony his money back that he put into the unicron.
HOLD ON a moment, why is this something worth arguing for??? I'm a big fan of RetroBlasting but you are going to whine about the man who was responsible for keeping a classic toy alive? No offense, but you are JUST a collector. He was a person who made toys so collectors like you can have a job. If you had the chance to re-write your favorite cartoon, wouldn't you want to put yourself into the story? I'm not understanding the hate here, you are taking this way too seriously.
There's always fans who want to complain, sometimes they make good points, other times they're just whining. Why this guy is moaning about MOTU lore is beyond me though, MOTU is such a flexible canon because of its numerous incarnations that I can't bring myself to care about some bad creative decisions that won't effect the stuff I like.
@Chandelier Mirage ブラックマジンガーZ Yeah everyone can complain, that's their right, but a lot of people just always complain, and you can tell it's a knee jerk reaction for them, an almost instinctual behavior that arises whenever something is at all questionable to them. I didn't even realize Spector was supposed to look like Scott, as far as I'm concerned Spector is just a Deadpool looking superhero guy with exaggerated powers that never really does anything. Maybe a cool looking toy, but his lore is irrelevant to me and most everything else in MOTU.
Michael my man... I usually love your videos, especially the ones about MOTU. But man oh man did somebody piss in your Corn Flakes this morning or what?
Corporate shilling is silly. Classics had alot of great figures but the business model Scott pushed has alot to do with why the toy industry is what it is today
I agree with you, i don't think motu classics will survive that long if it was released at retail. with over 200 figures, including vehicles and playsets.
u gotta be kidding u must be a reseller or had luck or you are TG in disguise 'cause between DR and QC issues with the figurines i had to stop buying this figures altogether
Scott Neitlich has posted a short and very polite response to this video. Scott would like to have a conversation with RetroBlasting. I hope that Retro takes Scott up on his offer.
dude .... i heard somebody say that this guy was responsible for turning he-man into his personal fan-fiction ... didn't know what that meant ... now i do ... that's dude!!
Hey Michael, I really hope you accept Scott's invitation to speak with him. I feel that the toy community as a whole would benefit from that discussion. I personally did not agree with many of your points in this video, but I also do not agree with many of Scott's points he has made. On the flipside, I also agree with other points that both of you have brought up regarding various issues. I would really love to see that conversation happen so that we can come together and do what we can to improve the issues we all have been facing. I hope that the expectation of how you think the conversation may go does not deter you from, at the very least, making an attempt to better the toy community. Thanks, and I hope you consider it.
Wow. I did not realize this was such a thorny issue. I'm not sure why there was a need for a video over 30 minutes long talking about how much you dislike the former marketing manager of Matty Collector or how he ruined He-Man by making a figure of himself. In all seriousness, you are of course allowed to have your own opinion and have the right to express yourself, but you seem to have a lot of anger in your heart. Maybe this is the best way for you to express it. I don't know. But in the end they're just toys, whether they be for kids of collectors. They're never going to be perfect. They're made by imperfect people who we hold to incredibly high standards. We need to remember they're just people who make toys (or the decisions behind them) and are doing the best job they can.
4-17-23 Haha "kick his ass Johnny'!' Good video. The roast and critique is warranted, I remember many of Neitlich's lies, and the many bait-and-switch during the MOTUC line. His megalomania is shown by his post at 18:07. So according to Neitlich, the customers need to be nice (kiss the butts, and celebrate everything done) to the people behind a toyline, or else the line might get canceled?? haha. Well if thats the mentality, its no wonder some companies lose millions, or people get ''head-hunted'' (ie fired), like an alleged firing that happened to certain brand manger at Mattel. NO-- the companies dont have the power to ''punish the customer'', in real life the customers have the power to punish a company. Companies dont make and sell items, "as a favor" to customers... Instead they make and sell items, to make money. Companies only make products, if they believe that it would make the company profit, they dont do it as "a favor" to customers. If a company outright tells its customers to take a flying leap, then thats a company that wont be in business for long. That deluded company arrogance is the reason that many multi-billion dollar companies, are getting boycotted and sinking. Smart customers vote with their wallets, when regrading businesses. Then again I dont expect Mr. Neitlich to understand that, since he once made the claim in a podcast (around the time that he left Mattel), that he (Neitlich), "is the Jack Kirby of the toy industry"....yes he went there.
Amazing how Starblazers has been rebooted ( live action movie not included) and stayed pretty close to the source material because the people doing it cared about the property
Same with Dragon Ball. Funny how Japan has no issues with respecting source material, but USA.... they just fart out a slew of excuse about why things have to be radically altered... and then shockingly they keep failing.
@@Grim2 Exactly!!! As Michael has said numerous times: These corporate types acquire an IP, change just about all the fundamentals about it, and then wanna blame the FANS when those changes turn out to be terrible!
@@Grim2 In Dragon Ball Super, Goku was turned into a special needs sociopath. Power scaling and lore was botched left and right. And having the original creator, Akira Toriyama, involved didn't help, since he likes to say Goku was just somebody who likes to fight strong guys. He's either forgotten what he originally wrote or is retconning in the worst ways. When in the original series and Dragon Ball Z, Goku clearly cared about people. He even destroyed the entire Red Ribbon Army just to help a friend bring his dead father back to life with the Dragon Balls. Toriyama can't even get the hair color of characters right and completely forgot one of his characters existed, that being Launch. So, that is not true about Dragon Ball, and even having the original creator involved did not help. It arguably made things worse. There have been plenty of botched anime adaptations of manga, and other terrible reboots. Most of the live action Japanese movies made after manga and anime are nothing to write home about either. So yeah, I wouldn't give Japan or Japanese creators a pass on this.
@@k-dawgbroadcasting5444 well. Im from 1976. So i was 6 to 8 years old when motu first aired. I had the toys. And it was one of the best cartoons BACK THEN. But where i can still watch an episode of gi Joe or transformers i cant do he-man. Just being honest to myself.
@@megasystem8473 No now it is all about beefs in the toy community (which 99.9% of us could care less about), modern toy companies’ ineptitude, etc. I don’t mind the occasional off the cuff rant but this clearly took a lot of time and effort to create and edit. Would’ve loved to see something of this quality about a vintage toy line.
Scott is clearly a complex character, but I can't believe that MOTU was deliberately held back from retail to suit his own empire-building ambitions. Isn't it more likely that he was a superfan who worked super hard to create a collectors' toyline and maybe took a bit too much on in the process? MOTUC was awesome, and bigger than anyone could have predicted, and like it or not, it was Scott's baby. I'd rather have had him in charge of it, than not had it at all - which is a far likelier the alternative. In the most part, I don't think people are motivated to be 'bad' - they just want things done right, which sometimes means doing them their way, and sometimes getting tunnel vision in the process. I think that was Scott. He maybe got a bit lost in it all, but we owe him a huge debt of thanks for being the force behind Origins. The Mighty Spector seems a small price to pay for EVERYTHING else that we got with that wonderful line. Did I like everything he did? No. Was I going to personally take over the line myself to do it my way? No. If I had, would fandom have thanked me for it? No. Is this enough rhetoric? Probably.
You can't believe someone misrepresented a brand's perceived value in order to mine and exploit it for their own selfish gain? It may suck to learn this, but... Santa Claus isn't real either.
@@Mekaneckpain Yes it was the Robot Chicken crew. Scott liked it so much they had to ask Warner Bros if they could " have the rights" to the figure to make it. They were overjoyed with the yes and Mo-Larr was born as a toy!
Talentless hacks slap the multiverse on the pig and grab a lot of lipstick... so true. I'd be interested in your view of ThunderCats Roar, Co-Executive Producer Victor Courtright. It was his older Brothers favorite show and he watched it too, but he always wanted to make his own version... as revenge to his older Brothers???
Can it be said for the TMNT crew, they don't go after older fans and try to keep things civil because they KNOW kids are watching their stuff and the last thing they want is for them to be thrown into drama. The TMNT crew also seems to, you know, like the past iterations of the series since they enjoy doing things with the 80s series as well as the comics and 90s movies. The only TWO series that haven't been brought up are the Bay films and Next Mutations which has more or less been buried by EVERYONE, the original creators included. MOTU:R did the exact opposite, making the drama VERY public and in a way sullying any sort of goodwill that could have come to the point where the CGI cartoon, which made a lot less noise about its existence, is eventually slowly coming up as a favorite between the two even if it also does its own thing. Back on point to the video, THIS is the very reason why I don't really *trust* people who say that they are the face of any sort of hobby, especially if they themselves appointed it TO THEMSELVES. Kevin Smith's whole 'king of the nerds' thing or whatever it was always came off as pretentious to me and after the whole MOTU debacle I felt justified in not seeing him as the hot shit that he and a lot of his clout chasing 'fans' claimed he was because like the man mentioned in the video, he only sees HIS visions as the approved ones. Sure, that's fine when you're doing your own work but Smith has worked on properties that he has not created and the whole crash landing with Revelations shows that what we saw wasn't a fan letter or whatever. It was just Smith trying to prove himself as the person to make the 'right' He-Man for this current time in the world and it was fucking terrible. I wasn't even alive when He-Man's initial popularity was high nor was I old enough to be in those groups that were playing with the toys even when they still were out but I knew all the shit he was doing was fucking wrong? How? Because I actually watched the series when I had the chance to, got interested in it, watched it some more and then was bitch slapped by the same awful current writing styles I detest now being passed off as 'how to do He-Man right'? No. No it's not. It's fucking awful and when the Jeff Matsuda designed He-Man cartoon is running CIRCLES around the 'for really reals grown up for the fans' Smith version, you have a massive problem. And the less we talk about what happened to She-Ra, the better because HOLY HELL dude....
Have you SEEN the Star Wars collectors? Particularly the ones who are against repro/custom/anything not made by the original company? MOTU is probably bad, but they are a motorcycle gang compared to SW collectors...
@@k-dawgbroadcasting5444 even though I like both toylines I don't bother with either community. Collectors prices made me go to gundam models as my hobby.
Speaking as an avid MOTU fan (with the entire run of MOTU Classics.. I collected it from the beginning straight through it's time with Super7, capping it off with the release of Snake Mountain earlier this year... and it was not the easiest line to collect), I will say there are some valid points being made here. But there are also some factual inaccuracies. For instance, the issue with Scott's face being on that palace guard figure. It was the 4 Horsemen who decided to model the face after Scott. He didn't know about it until they showed it to him. That was not his idea. I'm not defending Scott on all fronts. His time on the brand was controversial, and some of that controversy was and is for good reason. But some of it is also blown out of proportion.
@@hinesypoomusic Yeah, that would be good. Scott actually posted a 1 minute video response on his channel offering to come onto the RetroBlasting channel and talk about all of this. I hope Michael takes him up on the offer. Among the issues with the points made in this... Michael's video here is saying that Scott prevented these things from going to retail. Just getting MOTU Classics off the ground as a niche collector's line was difficult. This was not very long after the 200X toy line and cartoon failed to catch on with kids and was canceled, and Mattel was pretty much ready for the brand to go dormant again. They had no desire to try and bring MOTU back to retail so soon (and given it's then-recent failure at retail, there was a good chance that retailers might not have bought the figures if Mattel tried). Scott originally conceived the online collector's line to be a continuation of the 200X figures in that same style, and was trying to pitch that to Mattel. But around the same time, the 4HM (unprompted) made a prototype He-Man figure in what became the Classics style. It was put out at Comic Con as a display piece back around 2007 if memory serves to see what fans thought of it, and it generated a lot of buzz. The short version of what happened from there was that Scott and the 4HM worked together and refocused the concept as an entirely new collectors line in that design ascetic. Also regarding Michael's points about Ghostbusters... at the time that the MattyCollector figures came out, there was no new movies to tie the sale of them with. So traditional retail would have been risky. The figures that he refers to in this video that did eventually hit retail (which were mainly reissues of the Matty figures) came out in conjunction with the 2016 Ghostbusters movie. As bad as that film was, there was a lot of merchandise being sold at the time at retail based on the new characters/designs, as well as the classic ones. The figures based on the 2016 movie were in the same size and scale as the previous Matty figures. And since the tooling was already done, it was easy enough for Mattel to just do a wide release of the Matty figures. Hasbro started making their figures because of Ghostbusters Afterlife. Yes, there are the Plasma figures based on the original movie that have been out for well over a year now, but that movie was supposed to come out over a year ago and got delayed due to covid. I could go on but these are among the sorts of things that are simply not taken into consideration in this video.
However his face got there is kind of beside the point. Do you ses anyone at hasbro putting an employees face on Optimus Prime? Is DC putting their next editor in chief on supermans face? Perhaps for the next Ghostbusters figures we can put the temps faces and the work experience kid? That is after all what fans crave 😘
Savage! But I can't argue with the points made! Masterverse and Origins are doing great rn at retail, and I don't even know who is running the property, isn't that odd?
Of course he's not, RB isn't interested in any meaningful, honest discussion. RB and AT just try to thrive on manufacturing drama because they don't have the pull other channels (who they call 'shills') have.
@@JinzoCrash spectre creative comes from the corporate toy industry and offers an inside view on how it works, debunking some of the BS believed by collectors. this makes him an easy proxy for the corporate Goliaths like Hasbro that people love to rail against. makes sense; identity politics is a great way to rally the troops and increase viewership... like the sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives 🙂
@@carlo2384 Indeed. When bigotry and hate slow down, the companies, governments, people and globalists that profit from it must make more, be it for monetary, control, or petty "internet peepee touches" clout.
My sis brought over some homemade turnovers (nearing the holidays, she and her daughter are test baking recipes). I nearly spat out the crispy, buttery crust of one of them while laughing.
@@myronaustin I REALLY think Michael needs to start putting disclaimers in some of these videos! 😂Something like "Warning: The following video contains material that may be HYSTERICAL to some viewers. For your own safety, please be sure you are not currently operating a vehicle, or using tools. Viewer discretion is advised."😆
True, just look at how the entertainment industry treats its consumers as a drug dealer would. Like a pusher who stretches drugs with everything he gets, just produce something with the name of something from the past and people take the bait.
Nice frustration video which only focusses on everything bad SN did for MOTU. I'm interested in what good things you have to say about what SN did for MOTU.
You've been a subscriber for 5 years and you're just now seeing this video? That tells me you're not an engaged sub, and you wait for UA-cam to spoonfeed you content. You should know by now that I am objective. If I had felt SN had done anything positive **I would have said so.** Take your Pollyanna relativism somewhere else next time you want to throw a passive-aggressive comment like this at me. It won't fly here. - Michael
@@retroblasting Well my take on objective is definitely something else. I like lots of your video's because they go deep into the source material. But this video just sounds very sour and frustrated.
Sorry...but I laughed when I saw his face as an action figure.........why not? Genius for a creative. He was part of the creative force getting these toys out so who cares. Multiverse didn't hurt marvel or DC though.... Anyway...you taking up his offer for a meeting?
When he made his video around the 40th anniversary celebration that the line was dead again I get the feeling Mattel heard about it and made it their mission to humiliate Scott. After a lot of goal post moving videos to cover his rear each time new MOTU figures were announced, he no longer even acknowledges the continued existence of two toy lines he said would end in April.
That's because he had no basis in facts for his claims. He was disguising his opinions as facts and click baiting his audience along with his B.S. Even Mattel reps told crowds at panel events to stop listening to him. Maybe the toy community will finally get its collective head out of its a$$ regarding that huckster.
Everything happening here is a result of Spector Creative’s targeted marketing plan. Made crystal clear by his recent debate announcement video. With a background in advertising and marketing it’s easy to see. It’s called “negative marketing” and is often used in big business. It’s also contemptible and a strong indication your dealing with a real douche bag.
I am a huge fan of this channel, but of late I am struggling and I do not want to be! I am not sure if the pressures of COVID are showing This video is lacking so much behind the scenes details. Please bring back the videos of old!
I’m sure I’m going to get flak for this, but whatever! Thank you for telling fans who may love other iterations of he-man that their version is bullshit. And, that we are Corporate schills unable to think for ourselves because were willing to except the narrative given to us. Even if we might actually really like some of the new story lines and/or directions that has been thought of. I am not saying that everything is perfect since the OG He-Man stories. But, I think it is unfair to give judgment on every single new iteration, concept or idea that come out without thinking that maybe there is a fan base for this. In your argument to put down Scott Neitlich, you have basically done the very thing that you are complaining that the industry heads are currently doing to the Fanbase. And that’s putting down the Fanbase. While you have the right to express your criticism, you do not represent every MOTU fan. I grew up watching the original he-man cartoon and since then I have watched every version of He-Man and She-ra out there. Some things I like most others not so much. However, I will never tell a person who may enjoy their specific iteration, that they don’t have the right to like the version that they like. This to me is truly toxic behavior, and I’m not a person who likes to use that word loosely.
I been saying this all since 2008. Val Staples & Pixel Dan are gatekeeping He-Snobs with insufferable takes on many of these issues. Neitlich was completely a mark for himself and caused so many bad customer experiences that have ripples to this day.
"Sword of He" Is it just me or does "Sword of Greyskull" sound a lot better than that? "Sword of Greyskull" and "Sword of Protection" just have a better ring to them
@@ScooterinAB wasn't it, that in trollan, the word "he" translates to "power"? I believe that's what the classics line established in its minicomic storyline. Whatever it might be, it's better than what came from kevin smith. :)
One can only laugh about how dang mad people can get about perceived assaults on the *intelligence* and *creative sanctity* of a property with characters like Beast Man the beast man and Roboto the robot, populating a world where barbarians in loincloths ride their metal laser horses to battle. I love MOTU, but the whole thing was very clearly a slapdash, patchwork creative endeavor from the word "go." I guarantee that the vaunted creative geniuses behind the initial lore of the property look with bemused curiosity at how 40 years later, people are starting dumb internet beef towards the infidels who would dare disrespect -the ankle-deep concepts they just made up as they went along- *THE HOLY TEXTS*.
I love this one from Retro blasting because it's now truth. No way to deny it anymore. It's so specific, and to point and spot on, it's not only hilarious, it's prophetic! It's also a blueprint of the corporate mind set, run by narcissistic psychopaths. Great job Michael. I've seen this twice, and it's still fascinating!
Enjoying your rant and all, but the complex mythology of classics is what brought me back to the line. Just sayin'. These are imaginary tales you can take and discard everything you want. That's what I do. :)
I love that you found a Lt Spector head with eye wonk to use as the closeup. lol Brilliant. Although I will point out, Keldor is mentioned in the mini-comics from the 80s and there was a connection to Skeletor. We never saw the end of that story back then though and technically we only have the word of others that Keldor became skeletor was the plan.
I don't think Michael is as big a fan of Masters as he is other properties like Star Wars. Certainly not as much as Scott. I hope he takes up his offer to speak with him in person and prove this is really about toys and the future of the franchise(s), more than just views.
I don't buy that anyone really has a problem with MOTU having multiverse or revelations not being a continuation of the 80's cartoon. To me It just seems like a scapegoat used to cover up talking about other more controversial problems people have with current MOTU media.
I couldn't care less about either, but that's just me. Mutliverses serve a purpose, reboots serve a purpose. you don't have to like them but why be dismissive if it keeps the line ongoing. I'm a big Transformers guy, if something hasn't caught my eye, I'd rather just pass over it than go all "Trukk not monkee" I've watched the revelations episode that have been released, yhea it has issues, but I'll watch and then judge if it's worth worrying or being dismissive. Too much judgement being made in advance about what things aren't rather than judging them on what they are.
Ok, you are wrong that Scott made up the Keldor/Randor dynamic. The Search of Keldor mini comic you pointed out is about Randor looking for his brother Keldor and Skeletor wants keep that a secret. The Mike Young Show explicitly stated that they were brothers so I think you show probably make an adjustment. Sword of He tho: terrible the worst
"The Search of Keldor mini comic you pointed out is about Randor looking for his brother Keldor and Skeletor wants keep that a secret." That story never got resolved, we have no concrete idea WHERE it was going, just fan speculation that Skeletor and Keldor are one and the same.
@@Grim2 - But Keldor was Randor's brother. Keldor was lost to another dimension because of magic gone wrong. Late in the comic, Randor thought he saw Keldor, when he was actually looking at the silhouette of Skeletor. And Skeletor did everything he could to keep the heroes from being successful in their search.
@@texasbeast239 No, Grim's correct. Re-read the story. Not once does it ever explicitly say, "Keldor was Randor's brother" or "Keldor became Skeletor."
I'm so glad you did this video. He makes videos on his UA-cam channel that put the corporate twist on the problems with the toy industry. He actually says that toy scalpers are a good thing and I'd you want each wave of figures just preorder everything. Not everyone can afford to just pre order everything. He sounds like a politician,skates around things, sounds like a weasel.
@@LtCaveman Every spector video is an audition for another job. He's trying to show suits what he can sell to morons like you. Michael and many others can see through the guy, sorry you can't.
This'll be interesting. Toy Guru sometimes has something inciteful or interesting to say but I still cannot stand "Mighty Spector" They did some cool things in Classics and Spector wasn't one of them. I liked some of the concept figures that we got in Classics like Vikor,Demo-Man,Wun-Dar and even Fearless Photog but Spector feels too Marvel-esque for MOTU
Holy hell this one was so spot on. I love Pixel Dan- but always wondered why he never called out duplicat in the video….he seemed taken back when he saw it as well…like he wanted to say something but didn’t.
@@Man_of_Tomorrow pixel dan cant afford to say anying off topic publicly as he will lose money and sponsors. Hes a pr piece. Genuine passion for toys sure, but his channel is free advertising for toy companies.
@@JONNYSORENSEN_AU He seems like a really nice guy. Maybe he just doesn't want to get into drama. He's been less active this year so maybe that's a good indicator of his feelings towards Revelation and such 😆
If you're conducting an interview, you don't want to jump on somebody and start an argument. Interviews are not the place for "calling out" and "taking a stance", they're for bringing people information from the horse's mouth that they can absorb and interpret themselves. People have to personally pick their own battles. Depending on their situation and circumstance some people cannot speak out against certain things. I disagree with Michael's statements against Pixel Dan.
If Pixel Dan is only in it for the PR, then A. why has he slowed way down on the reviews? B. Why does he consistently say at the beginning he had to borrow the figure from someone else or wait until he could find it? C. Complain consistently about availability of He-Man toys? I think you guys are making a lot of assumptions that you're pulling out of nowhere. Yes a review channel that receives review copies of anything has a tightwire they have to tread, that's the name of the game, he's doing a job, and has received review samples in the past. But I've never seen him be shy at pointing out aspects of figures, releases or prices that he's had issues with. He might not make 20 minute videos ranting about it like it's the end of the world, but I don't think that's fair to say he's a shill or just a PR guy.
With all due respect, the “multiverse” concept is also useful to get people in on the “ground floor” Look at X-Men, if the 2000 movie had say been a page per page re-make of the 1963 comic it would likely. Not have done nearly as well, if for no other reason than the lack of wolverine and other heroes people had heard of. Same with the avengers, This is the reason we see this in plenty of media. Needing a starting off point. YES it can be seen as a lazy way for writers to put their own ideas and pet theories into a story, especially as stories age and some things are harder to keep in part (Tony Stark being captured by the red Chinese, or the sheer collection of Marvel heroes/villains who got their powers from open air nuclear testing).
Yes, but the X-Men movie is an adaptation from the comics medium to film. What is mostly being talked about here are situations where a toy line or film series is being continued in the same medium.
Wow, there are a lot of complaints about a lot of different things in this video, only some of which I think are valid. All the stuff about MattyCollector and the poor distribution of toys and all that I totally get and I'm totally on board with. But complaining about a guy making a character of himself and inserting that character into one single story, which actually only occurred in eight mini-comics that were spread over three years that didn't really have that much of an impact on the overall lore of He-Man, is a bit much. The problem with He-Man is that there's never really been one consistent story; there were the mini-comics which were different from the cartoon which was different from the Marvel imprint Star Comics, then the '87 movie to the late 80s cartoon reboot to the 200x reboot to the mini-comics from 2012 and then all the stuff that DC published over the last several years and now MOTUR and the new CGI show...it's all different enough that you can pretty much just pick which ones you like and ignore the rest. It's certainly nothing to get so worked up about. Also, why does anyone care what this Scott guy says about whether or not this new MOTUR series is canon? He has zero to do with the show and has no more official say on it than any one of us here.
The point of noting to the extent on Spectre was that it goes to character. Everything was a mentality of "MOTU wont sell or work at mass retail" and "one man making all decisions based on his own machinations..." w the figure being a culmination of a stroke of ones own ego. Using his own opinion in higher regard despite mass opinion contradicting much of it. And that figure standing tall that he is king of the MOTU people and what he believes trumps all others. Its quite a stark indictment. And very much on the nose.
@@ClunkerSlim Yep that’s exactly how I feel. All the stuff involving the toys, from the forced exclusivity to the poor distribution and stealing someone else’s ideas...it’s all shady and actually pretty despicable. But all the stuff about the cartoons, multiverse stuff, etc. seemed very out of place and completely irrelevant to the toy stuff.
I have been saying there are no writers out there,also people get jobs of who they know ,not what they know,like I say knowledge with no wisdom, awesome again retroblasting
We are all getting the “inside baseball” of the big toy industry - so now the kids that these toys were meant for have been shoved out of the way to chase the adult collector dollars - I will not be spending any money on these products, they have taken the joy out of all of it
Not through with the whole video yet...but your saying we took Masters of the Universe from kindergarten writing to third grade? That is progress! Edit: Are we really talking about solid world building in a MOTU video? MOTU was cobbled together to sell toys. It does needs a multiverse just to explain the mini comics, cartoon, and comics.
This. Was. Savage. . . Just. Savage! If you're trying to get the fans back on board, you kinda need to start at an established point at least and move forward from there. Pass the baton if need be, but yeah it needs to be logical and well written. Self insertion can't be the endgame, not everyone will follow it or even agree to it. This dude did his thing and it didn't work out. Self insertion is cool in your own 'verse and maybe to a few friends. But you can't "hijack" a fandom and hold it hostage. Then when it goes off the rails and faces harsh feedback, cop out of it leaving it in a smoking wreck. Some things fans might like, but at least take in info and ideas for serious consideration. But I had no idea it was this big of a dumpster fire. 😅 I just counted each iteration as its own telling and left it at that. Some of the many reboots we see are good in their own light. While others are trash and reek as much. But seeing as how this debacle likely contributed to the decimation of toy aisles, Toys R Us and shifted collecting for fun as a whole? It needed to be spoken on and put up for view. 👍🏾👍🏾💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I don't know if it started with that, but last week Retro made a video about the Haslab Sentinel and why the crowdfunding was a scam. Yesterday Scott made a video defending Haslab in which he told collectors to be grateful for it. It was very out of touch from Scott
GET EMILIANO SANTALUCIA on the show. Joe amato is great, and been around supporting the property from way back. He should alao be keenly aware of what happened to Emiliano.
I agree. Hate all the reboots and kind-of-sequels that pretend to be sequels, but are reboots. Where are the legit GHOSTBUSTERS- STAR WARS and HE-MAN-sequels?
I originally got into MOTU when it was first introduced. I was in my teens. As far as the lore was concerned I always felt the mini comics and possibly the first DC mini series was the “ bible”. Always preferred those stories to the Filmation cartoon, but I understand it’s importance to the children of the 80’s. I have completely ignored the existence mighty Spector. king he-man etc in a similar way to how I ignore the three SW sequels. As far as I’m concerned the Thrawn Trilogy is my post original trilogy Star Wars. Michael, one word that you kept repeating, “stewardship” continues to resonate with me. Very true.
This is an interesting video for sure. While the argument that multiverse's are lazy...there is a precedent in MOTU: because this line started with two continuities. The mini-comics and the cartoon had totally different things happening. It then evolved into a third continuity when they added aspects of the show to the mini-comics. And. let's not forget the DC comic as well. This gives writers a lot to draw from and, if handled the way Bruce Timm handled Justice League, you can cherry pick from them all to create the best possible stories.
How is Mighty Specter even a He-Man character? He just looks like a rejected X-Men member
Absolutely. It’s the most un-creative design ever. 90s X-Men Cyclops with Deadpools mask. Who-hoo.
I mean... Mattel invited everything from Ninjas and robots to the party... Its been the kitchen sink property from the get go
Purple Nurple Dead Pool.
Very much so,or like,rob leifield, universe ,Wildcat character or some isht.
Even a year after you did this it holds up.I'm sure you know of his recent "prediction" he did as well as the shirt with what you said on it in a recent interview
"Mighty" Spector looks like a jacked, bald version of Super Ninja from Chuck Norris' Karate Commandos.
Molar is a creation from Seth Green's 'Robot Chicken' show. Just for accuracy.
But who decided it should be a figure?
@@namelessjedi2242 Scott. I remember him saying that they were already scraping the bottom of the for classic characters. I'm guessing they didn't want to jump into The New Adventures because he knew how weak that series is, and without the nostalgia factor, the platform will quickly lose subscribers.
I will admit it was a funny gag and the nod to it with the figure was funny.
But I didn't think it would become lore/cannon.
Or even cause such an uproar.
@@myronaustin agreed. To be honest, it was fan service more than anything. As Spector said regarding it, they decided to do it because it was fun.
@@namelessjedi2242 I did, it was me. It was the only MOTU thing I ever saw. That I liked and I said, “ Scott, boyo, if I can’t wrestle Battle of the Planets into this He-Man thing you keeps blathering on about, what can you do with Steve Martin’s character from Little Shop, now there was a movie.”
Yup, that’s how the conversation went, still sad he didn’t come with the Banjo I asked for though, that woulda been the shit right there I tell ya.
The Might Spectre's look doesn't go with He-Man. Looks more like a cousin of Spider-man joined X-men.
The Masters line had Barbarians, demons from other dimensions, cowboys(Rio Blast), Ninjas, transforming Rock People etc.... Why would a superhero type be out of place?
@@GemJam73 the concept fits well but the anesthetics does not, IMHO.
He definitely reminds me more of an early 90s comic character. He-Man always lives in the early 80s.
He looks like a Cyclops knock off
@@iampoch01 Yep. That's my point. Looks like a Marvel charater.
I was a subscriber from day one. I never had an issue with Scott or his canon. Some of it was done to copyright the intellectual MOTU properies which were due to expire. Notice few characters had name changes due to those rights expiring. Outside of Scott, nobody else at Mattel saw value in MOTU. The success of classics relaunched MOTU.
Yeah I think not enough people understand just how different the landscape was in 2009. Mattel in general had no faith in MOTU.
You never had an issue with Scott's cannon? I hope not. But we're talking canon here, not genitals. Go talk about his cannon on the appropriate slashboards.
I subscribed but not every year. Some years were crap offerings that, honestly, did not justify having to put up with Digital River. Including Neitlich's vanity Spector project. The horrible job that Digital River did pretty much killed half of the value proposition of Mattycollector.
Yet you can't say that palace guard face or the Mighty Specter were needed things.
Well, all my guards look pristine, just the one with the Neitlich face has the most dinged up armor.
I hate multiverse. 200x is one of the rare exceptions where the reboot is superior to the original show. If you rewatch the 80's cartoon you immediately notice it's not aged as well as transformers or gi joe.
ehh i kinda think seasons 1&2 of TF were pretty slipshod. doesnt mean i dont love 'em still though. :-)
So... you're saying that the 200X series DIDN'T shit the bed at retail? I can't speak to most of this, but I firmly believe that the online subscription model WAS the only way Classics was going to happen, and it's CERTAINLY the only way they were able to just drop deep-cuts all over the place.
Your assertions regarding their market viability do not hold water. Ghostbusters and He-Man are back on shelves now because there is media to market it now.
Facts
@@Theopheus That whole thing was in response to the last original MOTU Wave.... the HE-Man property was "HAWT" and needed more merchandise.... This made Mattel overproduce secondary characters which didn't sell.... Apparently the public wanted He-Man cause there was a new wave of kids getting into the cartoon.... This is what they said int those Netflix Documentaries....
Show got cancelled because of slow toy sales even though I loved it.
Mattel bought the license for Ghostbusters because there was supposed to be a new movie around 2010, but Bill Murray blocked it because of his feud with Harold Ramis. Mattel would have put it in stores if GB3 came out back then. But no movie, no retail. Hasbro has since made toys because there have been two new movies.
I was never a He-man fan. My kid brother was, but I ran out of steam for action figures after my Mego Batman stuff, Star Wars, and GI Joe. My brother loved every conceivable IP, and collected them his whole life.
But this channel is priceless so I am really enjoying this story, even if He-man was never my bag. You can always intrigue me by mocking Kevin Smith.
He just sucks.
By the way, my advice is 3D modeling, 3D scanning, 3D printing, and no pity whatsoever for the corpo-cunts that have wrecked the industry. Take it all away from them. The only thing they have to sell is the concept of "official" and when they can't enforce that, they can't monetize it.
So strip it away from Scot Dicklick and the rest of the rancid slime that have trainwrecked this hobby. Build your own.
Prior to working on Masters of the Universe, Scott Neitlich worked in other toy lines under Mattel. One of those lines was Hot Wheels, and under the Hot Wheels label you'll find the name "Spector" used twice in their products (as far as I know): one such "Spector" was a skeleton-themed car. The other Hot Wheels "Spector" came out under Mattel's very own take on the Transformers, the "Modifighters". There was a subset of smaller Modifighters, and under that subset sure enough you'll find a robot named "Spector".
Literally the “60 Minutes” of the toy industry. Great commentary man.
Just when I thought the name "Cobra-La" the was stupidest thing I ever heard, the Sword of 🎵HE-hee🎵 took it to a whole new level!😂😂😂🙌
Especially since there's new meme, _"I now identify as Michael Jackson and my pronouns are, 'HE-Hee!'"_
Total missed opportunity that they didn't have an evil counterpart to the sword of 🎵He-hee🎵. The sword of 🎵 SHA-MONE🎵
Why is it bad though? If He is the word for power in that world all they did was just make the name “world correct” ( I can’t think of a way to describe it).
COBRA-LLALALLAALALAALALALALALA
I haven't seen a lot of this guy's videos, and there are some valid points in this one about Mattel, but there are many other points running off of false information and obvious bias. A Neutral take, this is not.
When did I ever say this was neutral, squid man? Also - FUN FACT -- The moment you have a take, YOU AREN'T NEUTRAL, genius. Learn what words mean.
Multiverse like Time Travel is very hard to pull off. You have to plan ahead from multiple causalities. And have it be incredibly dangerous. Otherwise the villains would use it constantly.
Or have it be fun and gimmicky. Bill and Ted makes absolutely no sense but I enjoy the hell out of it.
The character of Spector isn't as OP as people have made him out to be.
Scott went out of his way to explain this to people and try to have that reflected in the figure.
Around his thigh is a holster with these green test tube looking widgets. Those are like fuel rods that power either his pistol or his time travel device. He has a limited number of them and when they're gone, they're gone.
So he literally would have a set number of trips he can go on, and also would have to decide between "fight or flight" as he can't use up all those rods on combat, or else how the hell would he get back home?
It's actually an intriguing part of the character and always appreciated that aspect of him.
Toys like comics and video games are niche cultures that have gone mainstream. But they're run by corporations that actively prey on their customers. Selling the cheapest product for the highest prices.
Beautifully said Michael!
I kind of feel a core idea of MotU Classics was to combine elements from all the previous He-Man "canons" (mini-comics, Filmation, and the 2000s reboot) into one as a toyline that celebrated all of the brand. Does that idea actually work? Debatable, as a lot of times the writing had to jump through a lot of hoops to fit seemingly contradictory things together, and invent a lot of stuff to fill the gaps. But ultimately I do respect what they set out to do.
Now, should it be "The" definitive version of the MotU? universe I don't think so. Preferring only the mini-comics or Filmation or the reboot canon and ignoring the others is just as valid, if not more so, than trying to reconsile different versions of the brand that were created largely independently from each other into a single whole. It's kind of unfortunate that MotU Classics kind of ends up being treated that way, rather than as just "a" version of the MotU universe. Not sure how much of that it Neytlich's own fault, though, because while he does a lot of videos about the lore of MotU Classics (which he wrote), he also does seem to consider MotU a multiverse that can have different equally valid versions of the universe (of which Classics is just one take).
What’s worse is that hasbro may be doing something similar with transformers, trying to merge every continuity into one storyline.
@@panzerkorps2122 Didn't they tryed that once with Aligned continutie?
@@dedalionarts6077 I mean attach all continuities into one story in a modified way through a multiverse like said in the video. I believe it’s called transformers legacy
You’re obviously wrong about reboot culture. It’s not about lacking the talent to continue a story, it’s about resetting a storyline to the point where the largest possible audience cohort will be familiar with the goings-on. It’s the same reason any movie with “the final chapter” in the title will abandon any attempt at deep continuity.
Agreed.
Its lack of taking risks and hijackings others work.
Reboots are nothing to oraise
Reboots/remakes/“re-imaginings” are usually hot garbage.
Reboot Culture is nothing more than artistic bankruptcy.
@@somethingclever8916 I’m not praising them. Just presenting applying the old adage “Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.” Retro’s explaination, frankly, sounds paranoid in the extreme.
pixel would never bite the hand that feeds him
I enjoyed the video. I revisited my vintage MOTU at the end of 2018 and never even heard of MOTUC until I was searching for vintage figures, I needed to complete my collection. I'm sure I would have bought into the Classics if only I knew about them.
Just saw that Scott recently did an interview with the idiots at ClownfishTV. I should have expected a company man like Neitlich to happily and openly converse with grifters if it means getting a bigger platform. This video aged like fine wine Michael 👍🏻
I would argue the whole video has aged well, given where that man is today. Not just "for the most part."
@@retroblasting I was mostly referring to minor parts not about Scott, sorry for nitpicking
My big problem, at least in NJ is that stores dont stock anything. Empty shelves everywhere, so im forced to buy online if i want anything. But then places like Walmart and Target randomly cancel your orders and say the payment couldnt be recieved, even though i just got a package from them the day before.
Have him on your show, he is ready to come on. Get both sides.
He wants to do a show with Michael
Personally, I think a 3rd party channel such as Bobby Skullface or Michael Mercy should host such an event.
@@hq9344 I was unaware of this. Thank you for the info. I nominate Dan from Toy Galaxy as a potential moderator/Host
@@hq9344 thank you for directing me towards another toy channel. I appreciate that.
Have you checked out Bobby Skullface? If not, I highly recommend his channel. It is very Transformers centric. He offers a very distinct viewpoint and you can tell he truly has a real love for toys.
@@hq9344 i dont think mercys a scumbag. tony had a right to be mad at him but thats between them and apparently mercy gave tony his money back that he put into the unicron.
HOLD ON a moment, why is this something worth arguing for??? I'm a big fan of RetroBlasting but you are going to whine about the man who was responsible for keeping a classic toy alive? No offense, but you are JUST a collector. He was a person who made toys so collectors like you can have a job. If you had the chance to re-write your favorite cartoon, wouldn't you want to put yourself into the story? I'm not understanding the hate here, you are taking this way too seriously.
There's always fans who want to complain, sometimes they make good points, other times they're just whining. Why this guy is moaning about MOTU lore is beyond me though, MOTU is such a flexible canon because of its numerous incarnations that I can't bring myself to care about some bad creative decisions that won't effect the stuff I like.
@Chandelier Mirage ブラックマジンガーZ Yeah everyone can complain, that's their right, but a lot of people just always complain, and you can tell it's a knee jerk reaction for them, an almost instinctual behavior that arises whenever something is at all questionable to them. I didn't even realize Spector was supposed to look like Scott, as far as I'm concerned Spector is just a Deadpool looking superhero guy with exaggerated powers that never really does anything. Maybe a cool looking toy, but his lore is irrelevant to me and most everything else in MOTU.
Michael my man... I usually love your videos, especially the ones about MOTU. But man oh man did somebody piss in your Corn Flakes this morning or what?
"Trust the company! They pay me bazillions, so you have to trust them and throw as much money down their throats as possible."
I like both channels and love to see them debate the issues presented in this video.
MOTU Classics was a home run. Scott did a great job on that. Toy activism is silly.
Corporate shilling is silly. Classics had alot of great figures but the business model Scott pushed has alot to do with why the toy industry is what it is today
I agree with you, i don't think motu classics will survive that long if it was released at retail. with over 200 figures, including vehicles and playsets.
Classics figures were great
Some of the backstories were cool,but the canon was kinda meh...
u gotta be kidding u must be a reseller or had luck or you are TG in disguise 'cause between DR and QC issues with the figurines i had to stop buying this figures altogether
Scott Neitlich has posted a short and very polite response to this video. Scott would like to have a conversation with RetroBlasting. I hope that Retro takes Scott up on his offer.
dude .... i heard somebody say that this guy was responsible for turning he-man into his personal fan-fiction ... didn't know what that meant ... now i do ... that's dude!!
Teddy Rubskin?!? You're back?!? Coolness, welcome back!! I'm coming to check your new channel, it's been a long time (2020 was NOT a fun year. LMAO)
Hey Michael,
I really hope you accept Scott's invitation to speak with him. I feel that the toy community as a whole would benefit from that discussion. I personally did not agree with many of your points in this video, but I also do not agree with many of Scott's points he has made. On the flipside, I also agree with other points that both of you have brought up regarding various issues. I would really love to see that conversation happen so that we can come together and do what we can to improve the issues we all have been facing. I hope that the expectation of how you think the conversation may go does not deter you from, at the very least, making an attempt to better the toy community.
Thanks, and I hope you consider it.
This. Also i like a lot your content and i am happy to see such constructive comment from you.
Yeah I agree your comment jcc
Scott already burned that bridge last year. Does nobody here pay attention? I genuinely have bad short term memory, but the long term memory is fine.
I would like to hear a chat/debate between you two guys.
Unsurprisingly The Mighty Spector is the least popular figure from the MOTU Classics line.
Wow. I did not realize this was such a thorny issue. I'm not sure why there was a need for a video over 30 minutes long talking about how much you dislike the former marketing manager of Matty Collector or how he ruined He-Man by making a figure of himself. In all seriousness, you are of course allowed to have your own opinion and have the right to express yourself, but you seem to have a lot of anger in your heart. Maybe this is the best way for you to express it. I don't know. But in the end they're just toys, whether they be for kids of collectors. They're never going to be perfect. They're made by imperfect people who we hold to incredibly high standards. We need to remember they're just people who make toys (or the decisions behind them) and are doing the best job they can.
This post here yes!
12:18 Spector is even He-man's son too. Watch out Rey Spector might take your spot in the Mary Su market
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Haha "kick his ass Johnny'!' Good video. The roast and critique is warranted, I remember many of Neitlich's lies, and the many bait-and-switch during the MOTUC line. His megalomania is shown by his post at 18:07. So according to Neitlich, the customers need to be nice (kiss the butts, and celebrate everything done) to the people behind a toyline, or else the line might get canceled?? haha.
Well if thats the mentality, its no wonder some companies lose millions, or people get ''head-hunted'' (ie fired), like an alleged firing that happened to certain brand manger at Mattel. NO-- the companies dont have the power to ''punish the customer'', in real life the customers have the power to punish a company.
Companies dont make and sell items, "as a favor" to customers... Instead they make and sell items, to make money. Companies only make products, if they believe that it would make the company profit, they dont do it as "a favor" to customers. If a company outright tells its customers to take a flying leap, then thats a company that wont be in business for long. That deluded company arrogance is the reason that many multi-billion dollar companies, are getting boycotted and sinking. Smart customers vote with their wallets, when regrading businesses. Then again I dont expect Mr. Neitlich to understand that, since he once made the claim in a podcast (around the time that he left Mattel), that he (Neitlich), "is the Jack Kirby of the toy industry"....yes he went there.
tbh, I thought that whatever that character is, it's just Deadpool crossing over and doing his wall/dimension breaking ways.
Amazing how Starblazers has been rebooted ( live action movie not included) and stayed pretty close to the source material because the people doing it cared about the property
Same with Dragon Ball. Funny how Japan has no issues with respecting source material, but USA.... they just fart out a slew of excuse about why things have to be radically altered... and then shockingly they keep failing.
@@Grim2 Exactly!!! As Michael has said numerous times: These corporate types acquire an IP, change just about all the fundamentals about it, and then wanna blame the FANS when those changes turn out to be terrible!
Star Blazers FTW!!
@@Grim2 In Dragon Ball Super, Goku was turned into a special needs sociopath. Power scaling and lore was botched left and right.
And having the original creator, Akira Toriyama, involved didn't help, since he likes to say Goku was just somebody who likes to fight strong guys. He's either forgotten what he originally wrote or is retconning in the worst ways. When in the original series and Dragon Ball Z, Goku clearly cared about people. He even destroyed the entire Red Ribbon Army just to help a friend bring his dead father back to life with the Dragon Balls.
Toriyama can't even get the hair color of characters right and completely forgot one of his characters existed, that being Launch. So, that is not true about Dragon Ball, and even having the original creator involved did not help. It arguably made things worse.
There have been plenty of botched anime adaptations of manga, and other terrible reboots. Most of the live action Japanese movies made after manga and anime are nothing to write home about either.
So yeah, I wouldn't give Japan or Japanese creators a pass on this.
wasn’t there a comic about Keldor in the 80s?
To be fair the original He-man cartoon is unwatchable today
wise not to use that phrase in the RB domain...watch his video to see why
@@k-dawgbroadcasting5444 well. Im from 1976. So i was 6 to 8 years old when motu first aired. I had the toys. And it was one of the best cartoons BACK THEN.
But where i can still watch an episode of gi Joe or transformers i cant do he-man. Just being honest to myself.
@@alphatrion100
I’d actually say that MOTU aged up better than GI joe. But that’s just personal opinion.
I still remember when this channel was about vintage toys.
It still is
@@megasystem8473 No now it is all about beefs in the toy community (which 99.9% of us could care less about), modern toy companies’ ineptitude, etc. I don’t mind the occasional off the cuff rant but this clearly took a lot of time and effort to create and edit. Would’ve loved to see something of this quality about a vintage toy line.
Scott is clearly a complex character, but I can't believe that MOTU was deliberately held back from retail to suit his own empire-building ambitions. Isn't it more likely that he was a superfan who worked super hard to create a collectors' toyline and maybe took a bit too much on in the process? MOTUC was awesome, and bigger than anyone could have predicted, and like it or not, it was Scott's baby. I'd rather have had him in charge of it, than not had it at all - which is a far likelier the alternative. In the most part, I don't think people are motivated to be 'bad' - they just want things done right, which sometimes means doing them their way, and sometimes getting tunnel vision in the process. I think that was Scott. He maybe got a bit lost in it all, but we owe him a huge debt of thanks for being the force behind Origins. The Mighty Spector seems a small price to pay for EVERYTHING else that we got with that wonderful line. Did I like everything he did? No. Was I going to personally take over the line myself to do it my way? No. If I had, would fandom have thanked me for it? No. Is this enough rhetoric? Probably.
You can't believe someone misrepresented a brand's perceived value in order to mine and exploit it for their own selfish gain? It may suck to learn this, but... Santa Claus isn't real either.
Doesn’t Scott have his own UA-cam channel where he talks extensively about MOTU?
I get what you're saying, but I still think it was cool that Matty Collector made a Molar figure.
Agreed... and wasn't it the folks at Robot Chicken that created that character... not Scott?
@@Mekaneckpain Yes it was the Robot Chicken crew. Scott liked it so much they had to ask Warner Bros if they could " have the rights" to the figure to make it. They were overjoyed with the yes and Mo-Larr was born as a toy!
Agreed. I remember coming across the two-pack in TRU and laughing myself silly when I saw it. LOL
Talentless hacks slap the multiverse on the pig and grab a lot of lipstick... so true. I'd be interested in your view of ThunderCats Roar, Co-Executive Producer Victor Courtright. It was his older Brothers favorite show and he watched it too, but he always wanted to make his own version... as revenge to his older Brothers???
Can it be said for the TMNT crew, they don't go after older fans and try to keep things civil because they KNOW kids are watching their stuff and the last thing they want is for them to be thrown into drama. The TMNT crew also seems to, you know, like the past iterations of the series since they enjoy doing things with the 80s series as well as the comics and 90s movies. The only TWO series that haven't been brought up are the Bay films and Next Mutations which has more or less been buried by EVERYONE, the original creators included.
MOTU:R did the exact opposite, making the drama VERY public and in a way sullying any sort of goodwill that could have come to the point where the CGI cartoon, which made a lot less noise about its existence, is eventually slowly coming up as a favorite between the two even if it also does its own thing.
Back on point to the video, THIS is the very reason why I don't really *trust* people who say that they are the face of any sort of hobby, especially if they themselves appointed it TO THEMSELVES. Kevin Smith's whole 'king of the nerds' thing or whatever it was always came off as pretentious to me and after the whole MOTU debacle I felt justified in not seeing him as the hot shit that he and a lot of his clout chasing 'fans' claimed he was because like the man mentioned in the video, he only sees HIS visions as the approved ones. Sure, that's fine when you're doing your own work but Smith has worked on properties that he has not created and the whole crash landing with Revelations shows that what we saw wasn't a fan letter or whatever. It was just Smith trying to prove himself as the person to make the 'right' He-Man for this current time in the world and it was fucking terrible. I wasn't even alive when He-Man's initial popularity was high nor was I old enough to be in those groups that were playing with the toys even when they still were out but I knew all the shit he was doing was fucking wrong?
How?
Because I actually watched the series when I had the chance to, got interested in it, watched it some more and then was bitch slapped by the same awful current writing styles I detest now being passed off as 'how to do He-Man right'? No. No it's not. It's fucking awful and when the Jeff Matsuda designed He-Man cartoon is running CIRCLES around the 'for really reals grown up for the fans' Smith version, you have a massive problem.
And the less we talk about what happened to She-Ra, the better because HOLY HELL dude....
Reading these comments a month later I see the MOTU fanbase is still the most sensitive in the entire hobby.
Not sure why... I didn't like it as a kid, and never liked the toys, had to sit through the cartoon to get to GI Joe and Transformers.
Have you SEEN the Star Wars collectors? Particularly the ones who are against repro/custom/anything not made by the original company? MOTU is probably bad, but they are a motorcycle gang compared to SW collectors...
@@k-dawgbroadcasting5444 even though I like both toylines I don't bother with either community. Collectors prices made me go to gundam models as my hobby.
Speaking as an avid MOTU fan (with the entire run of MOTU Classics.. I collected it from the beginning straight through it's time with Super7, capping it off with the release of Snake Mountain earlier this year... and it was not the easiest line to collect), I will say there are some valid points being made here.
But there are also some factual inaccuracies. For instance, the issue with Scott's face being on that palace guard figure. It was the 4 Horsemen who decided to model the face after Scott. He didn't know about it until they showed it to him. That was not his idea.
I'm not defending Scott on all fronts. His time on the brand was controversial, and some of that controversy was and is for good reason. But some of it is also blown out of proportion.
Hopefully we get a follow up acknowledging this kind of stuff
@@hinesypoomusic Yeah, that would be good. Scott actually posted a 1 minute video response on his channel offering to come onto the RetroBlasting channel and talk about all of this. I hope Michael takes him up on the offer.
Among the issues with the points made in this... Michael's video here is saying that Scott prevented these things from going to retail. Just getting MOTU Classics off the ground as a niche collector's line was difficult. This was not very long after the 200X toy line and cartoon failed to catch on with kids and was canceled, and Mattel was pretty much ready for the brand to go dormant again. They had no desire to try and bring MOTU back to retail so soon (and given it's then-recent failure at retail, there was a good chance that retailers might not have bought the figures if Mattel tried).
Scott originally conceived the online collector's line to be a continuation of the 200X figures in that same style, and was trying to pitch that to Mattel. But around the same time, the 4HM (unprompted) made a prototype He-Man figure in what became the Classics style. It was put out at Comic Con as a display piece back around 2007 if memory serves to see what fans thought of it, and it generated a lot of buzz. The short version of what happened from there was that Scott and the 4HM worked together and refocused the concept as an entirely new collectors line in that design ascetic.
Also regarding Michael's points about Ghostbusters... at the time that the MattyCollector figures came out, there was no new movies to tie the sale of them with. So traditional retail would have been risky. The figures that he refers to in this video that did eventually hit retail (which were mainly reissues of the Matty figures) came out in conjunction with the 2016 Ghostbusters movie. As bad as that film was, there was a lot of merchandise being sold at the time at retail based on the new characters/designs, as well as the classic ones. The figures based on the 2016 movie were in the same size and scale as the previous Matty figures. And since the tooling was already done, it was easy enough for Mattel to just do a wide release of the Matty figures.
Hasbro started making their figures because of Ghostbusters Afterlife. Yes, there are the Plasma figures based on the original movie that have been out for well over a year now, but that movie was supposed to come out over a year ago and got delayed due to covid.
I could go on but these are among the sorts of things that are simply not taken into consideration in this video.
Yeah that would be good.
And thanks for explaining things and clearing some things up.
However his face got there is kind of beside the point. Do you ses anyone at hasbro putting an employees face on Optimus Prime? Is DC putting their next editor in chief on supermans face? Perhaps for the next Ghostbusters figures we can put the temps faces and the work experience kid? That is after all what fans crave 😘
@@JONNYSORENSEN_AU You have to admit there is a HUGE difference between a main character like Optimus or Superman and an Eternian guard.
And just like that Retroblasting comes outta nowhere with the chair!
Savage! But I can't argue with the points made! Masterverse and Origins are doing great rn at retail, and I don't even know who is running the property, isn't that odd?
Emiliano Santalucia is the real champion of MOTU. He called out on Toyguru years ago. Heard what happened to him?
Yeah, it's terrible what happened to Emiliano. He started calling Neitlich out on his bs, and was basically forced out of the fandom as a result.
Did you try to reach out to Scott to discuss these things? He’s not hard to reach. I just interviewed him for Clownfish TV.
Of course he's not, RB isn't interested in any meaningful, honest discussion. RB and AT just try to thrive on manufacturing drama because they don't have the pull other channels (who they call 'shills') have.
Interesting video. Hopefully we'll get more of the retro and less of the blasting next time. Just a thought. 🙂
Behind the scenes, Retro is false-flagging Spector to silence him.
@@JinzoCrash spectre creative comes from the corporate toy industry and offers an inside view on how it works, debunking some of the BS believed by collectors. this makes him an easy proxy for the corporate Goliaths like Hasbro that people love to rail against. makes sense; identity politics is a great way to rally the troops and increase viewership... like the sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives 🙂
@@carlo2384 Indeed. When bigotry and hate slow down, the companies, governments, people and globalists that profit from it must make more, be it for monetary, control, or petty "internet peepee touches" clout.
That Michel Jackson cut away had me pissing myself laughing!!
SAME!!!! I almost literally had to run to the restroom ! 😂 Seriously!
Just about had to stop the truck!
Kinda hard to belly laugh at 65mph!!!
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My sis brought over some homemade turnovers (nearing the holidays, she and her daughter are test baking recipes). I nearly spat out the crispy, buttery crust of one of them while laughing.
@@myronaustin I REALLY think Michael needs to start putting disclaimers in some of these videos! 😂Something like "Warning: The following video contains material that may be HYSTERICAL to some viewers. For your own safety, please be sure you are not currently operating a vehicle, or using tools. Viewer discretion is advised."😆
@@donmiles4581 🤣😂🤣😂
That would help for sure!
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Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
True, just look at how the entertainment industry treats its consumers as a drug dealer would. Like a pusher who stretches drugs with everything he gets, just produce something with the name of something from the past and people take the bait.
There are many trillions of ways to do things badly...and only a select few ways to make something work.
Appreciated the Sean Lock clips. Still can't believe he is gone. And now Norm Macdonald. 2 great comedians.
Sean Lock.
Nice frustration video which only focusses on everything bad SN did for MOTU. I'm interested in what good things you have to say about what SN did for MOTU.
You've been a subscriber for 5 years and you're just now seeing this video? That tells me you're not an engaged sub, and you wait for UA-cam to spoonfeed you content. You should know by now that I am objective. If I had felt SN had done anything positive **I would have said so.** Take your Pollyanna relativism somewhere else next time you want to throw a passive-aggressive comment like this at me. It won't fly here. - Michael
@@retroblasting Well my take on objective is definitely something else. I like lots of your video's because they go deep into the source material. But this video just sounds very sour and frustrated.
Sorry...but I laughed when I saw his face as an action figure.........why not? Genius for a creative. He was part of the creative force getting these toys out so who cares. Multiverse didn't hurt marvel or DC though....
Anyway...you taking up his offer for a meeting?
How do so many people even know about this guy and come here to write comments on his behalf lol, it is amazing.
@@aFoxyFox. cause he has a retro toy channel..he talks about the industry. Similar interest. I'm subbed to both channels. I suspect many are.
When he made his video around the 40th anniversary celebration that the line was dead again I get the feeling Mattel heard about it and made it their mission to humiliate Scott. After a lot of goal post moving videos to cover his rear each time new MOTU figures were announced, he no longer even acknowledges the continued existence of two toy lines he said would end in April.
That's because he had no basis in facts for his claims. He was disguising his opinions as facts and click baiting his audience along with his B.S. Even Mattel reps told crowds at panel events to stop listening to him. Maybe the toy community will finally get its collective head out of its a$$ regarding that huckster.
Everything happening here is a result of Spector Creative’s targeted marketing plan. Made crystal clear by his recent debate announcement video. With a background in advertising and marketing it’s easy to see. It’s called “negative marketing” and is often used in big business. It’s also contemptible and a strong indication your dealing with a real douche bag.
100% true
Crayons and loneliness lol , i can't help but laugh when i think about Spectre.. but he has accomplished alot , but at what cost?
I am a huge fan of this channel, but of late I am struggling and I do not want to be! I am not sure if the pressures of COVID are showing This video is lacking so much behind the scenes details. Please bring back the videos of old!
It does seem to be getting very negative.
I appreciate that this guy also recognizes that Hack Snydemouth crapped all over DC.
may we all live long enough to watch the things we loved as children die.... they F up every thing I loved
OOF... This was a drop mic video !🖐🎤💥
I’m sure I’m going to get flak for this, but whatever! Thank you for telling fans who may love other iterations of he-man that their version is bullshit. And, that we are Corporate schills unable to think for ourselves because were willing to except the narrative given to us. Even if we might actually really like some of the new story lines and/or directions that has been thought of. I am not saying that everything is perfect since the OG He-Man stories. But, I think it is unfair to give judgment on every single new iteration, concept or idea that come out without thinking that maybe there is a fan base for this. In your argument to put down Scott Neitlich, you have basically done the very thing that you are complaining that the industry heads are currently doing to the Fanbase. And that’s putting down the Fanbase. While you have the right to express your criticism, you do not represent every MOTU fan. I grew up watching the original he-man cartoon and since then I have watched every version of He-Man and She-ra out there. Some things I like most others not so much. However, I will never tell a person who may enjoy their specific iteration, that they don’t have the right to like the version that they like. This to me is truly toxic behavior, and I’m not a person who likes to use that word loosely.
You make a good point.
I been saying this all since 2008. Val Staples & Pixel Dan are gatekeeping He-Snobs with insufferable takes on many of these issues. Neitlich was completely a mark for himself and caused so many bad customer experiences that have ripples to this day.
@@jamespaul6315 Did you watch the video you're commenting on? It's laid out pretty meticulously.
"Sword of He"
Is it just me or does "Sword of Greyskull" sound a lot better than that?
"Sword of Greyskull" and "Sword of Protection" just have a better ring to them
The Sword Of Power is better
It was named after a piece of inworld lore, not a male pronoun. Granted, this is a children's toy line, so we're not exactly getting Shakespeare.
@@ScooterinAB wasn't it, that in trollan, the word "he" translates to "power"? I believe that's what the classics line established in its minicomic storyline.
Whatever it might be, it's better than what came from kevin smith. :)
@@ScooterinAB Still,it's a bit of lore that isn't too good
One can only laugh about how dang mad people can get about perceived assaults on the *intelligence* and *creative sanctity* of a property with characters like Beast Man the beast man and Roboto the robot, populating a world where barbarians in loincloths ride their metal laser horses to battle.
I love MOTU, but the whole thing was very clearly a slapdash, patchwork creative endeavor from the word "go." I guarantee that the vaunted creative geniuses behind the initial lore of the property look with bemused curiosity at how 40 years later, people are starting dumb internet beef towards the infidels who would dare disrespect -the ankle-deep concepts they just made up as they went along- *THE HOLY TEXTS*.
I love this one from Retro blasting because it's now truth.
No way to deny it anymore.
It's so specific, and to point and spot on, it's not only hilarious, it's prophetic!
It's also a blueprint of the corporate mind set, run by narcissistic psychopaths.
Great job Michael.
I've seen this twice, and it's still fascinating!
Enjoying your rant and all, but the complex mythology of classics is what brought me back to the line. Just sayin'. These are imaginary tales you can take and discard everything you want. That's what I do. :)
The only valid point in this video is the critizism of neitlich as a person
I like incorporating weird shit from the past and other continuities and I love complicated lore so if I was a he man fan I would be over joyed
I love that you found a Lt Spector head with eye wonk to use as the closeup. lol Brilliant.
Although I will point out, Keldor is mentioned in the mini-comics from the 80s and there was a connection to Skeletor. We never saw the end of that story back then though and technically we only have the word of others that Keldor became skeletor was the plan.
I don't think Michael is as big a fan of Masters as he is other properties like Star Wars. Certainly not as much as Scott. I hope he takes up his offer to speak with him in person and prove this is really about toys and the future of the franchise(s), more than just views.
@@LtCaveman Looks like he's taken up the offer over on Geek Dad Life, Sunday (... Sunday! Sunday!)
Crayons and loneliness! That’s gold! 🤣
I don't buy that anyone really has a problem with MOTU having multiverse or revelations not being a continuation of the 80's cartoon. To me It just seems like a scapegoat used to cover up talking about other more controversial problems people have with current MOTU media.
I couldn't care less about either, but that's just me. Mutliverses serve a purpose, reboots serve a purpose. you don't have to like them but why be dismissive if it keeps the line ongoing. I'm a big Transformers guy, if something hasn't caught my eye, I'd rather just pass over it than go all "Trukk not monkee"
I've watched the revelations episode that have been released, yhea it has issues, but I'll watch and then judge if it's worth worrying or being dismissive. Too much judgement being made in advance about what things aren't rather than judging them on what they are.
Ok, you are wrong that Scott made up the Keldor/Randor dynamic. The Search of Keldor mini comic you pointed out is about Randor looking for his brother Keldor and Skeletor wants keep that a secret. The Mike Young Show explicitly stated that they were brothers so I think you show probably make an adjustment. Sword of He tho: terrible the worst
"The Search of Keldor mini comic you pointed out is about Randor looking for his brother Keldor and Skeletor wants keep that a secret."
That story never got resolved, we have no concrete idea WHERE it was going, just fan speculation that Skeletor and Keldor are one and the same.
@@Grim2 - But Keldor was Randor's brother.
Keldor was lost to another dimension because of magic gone wrong.
Late in the comic, Randor thought he saw Keldor, when he was actually looking at the silhouette of Skeletor.
And Skeletor did everything he could to keep the heroes from being successful in their search.
All this video says is we only have peoples word that it was the intended story destination. Michael is correct.
@@namelessjedi2242 100%!!! 👍 And STILL stand by what 'Skeletor' himself said in the Orange Chairs with Zodak video: "Hashtag: Not..my..nephew!"👏👏🙌😂
@@texasbeast239 No, Grim's correct. Re-read the story. Not once does it ever explicitly say, "Keldor was Randor's brother" or "Keldor became Skeletor."
I'm so glad you did this video. He makes videos on his UA-cam channel that put the corporate twist on the problems with the toy industry. He actually says that toy scalpers are a good thing and I'd you want each wave of figures just preorder everything. Not everyone can afford to just pre order everything. He sounds like a politician,skates around things, sounds like a weasel.
Now its pointed out me Scott does sound like he's auditioning for corporate spokesman.
I watch his vids but usually its a few weeks a part.
Here you have a bit of self-pity: You poor guy. "Mama...the toy industry is so mean to me...they talk like politicians...booooooo"
His videos are educational about the toy industry but some of his takes about the toy industry are crap.
The clue is that his videos look like corporate slideshows 😉
@@LtCaveman Every spector video is an audition for another job. He's trying to show suits what he can sell to morons like you. Michael and many others can see through the guy, sorry you can't.
Wow how can you judge from the outside looking in
This'll be interesting.
Toy Guru sometimes has something inciteful or interesting to say but I still cannot stand "Mighty Spector"
They did some cool things in Classics and Spector wasn't one of them. I liked some of the concept figures that we got in Classics like Vikor,Demo-Man,Wun-Dar and even Fearless Photog but Spector feels too Marvel-esque for MOTU
*Insightful.
@@collegerebel No, he was right the first time.
Lets not forget if you wanted to make the Horde Prime from the UK Media, you needed a Mighty Spector figure for the base
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Alright, I looked it up.
@@knightwolfpro4494 That was an awful choice. That'd be like putting He-Man's battle axe in with Orko. It makes no sense!
That Matty collector logo is insufferable.
Holy hell this one was so spot on. I love Pixel Dan- but always wondered why he never called out duplicat in the video….he seemed taken back when he saw it as well…like he wanted to say something but didn’t.
He has mentioned it in a video, but he's not a drama channel, what do you expect? He shows the product and says what he thinks of them.
@@Man_of_Tomorrow pixel dan cant afford to say anying off topic publicly as he will lose money and sponsors. Hes a pr piece. Genuine passion for toys sure, but his channel is free advertising for toy companies.
@@JONNYSORENSEN_AU He seems like a really nice guy. Maybe he just doesn't want to get into drama. He's been less active this year so maybe that's a good indicator of his feelings towards Revelation and such 😆
If you're conducting an interview, you don't want to jump on somebody and start an argument. Interviews are not the place for "calling out" and "taking a stance", they're for bringing people information from the horse's mouth that they can absorb and interpret themselves.
People have to personally pick their own battles. Depending on their situation and circumstance some people cannot speak out against certain things. I disagree with Michael's statements against Pixel Dan.
If Pixel Dan is only in it for the PR, then A. why has he slowed way down on the reviews? B. Why does he consistently say at the beginning he had to borrow the figure from someone else or wait until he could find it? C. Complain consistently about availability of He-Man toys? I think you guys are making a lot of assumptions that you're pulling out of nowhere. Yes a review channel that receives review copies of anything has a tightwire they have to tread, that's the name of the game, he's doing a job, and has received review samples in the past. But I've never seen him be shy at pointing out aspects of figures, releases or prices that he's had issues with. He might not make 20 minute videos ranting about it like it's the end of the world, but I don't think that's fair to say he's a shill or just a PR guy.
With all due respect, the “multiverse” concept is also useful to get people in on the “ground floor” Look at X-Men, if the 2000 movie had say been a page per page re-make of the 1963 comic it would likely. Not have done nearly as well, if for no other reason than the lack of wolverine and other heroes people had heard of. Same with the avengers, This is the reason we see this in plenty of media. Needing a starting off point. YES it can be seen as a lazy way for writers to put their own ideas and pet theories into a story, especially as stories age and some things are harder to keep in part (Tony Stark being captured by the red Chinese, or the sheer collection of Marvel heroes/villains who got their powers from open air nuclear testing).
This guy hates everything that came after 1987.
@@itheuserfirst3186 yeah, I'm kind of seeing that now.
Yes, but the X-Men movie is an adaptation from the comics medium to film. What is mostly being talked about here are situations where a toy line or film series is being continued in the same medium.
@@ClunkerSlim Exaclty right.
Actually Iron Man was caught by the Red Vietnamese, later retconned to be the Sincongese
...why does that purple character have a spade on it? 🤔
DAMN I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!
Wow, there are a lot of complaints about a lot of different things in this video, only some of which I think are valid. All the stuff about MattyCollector and the poor distribution of toys and all that I totally get and I'm totally on board with. But complaining about a guy making a character of himself and inserting that character into one single story, which actually only occurred in eight mini-comics that were spread over three years that didn't really have that much of an impact on the overall lore of He-Man, is a bit much. The problem with He-Man is that there's never really been one consistent story; there were the mini-comics which were different from the cartoon which was different from the Marvel imprint Star Comics, then the '87 movie to the late 80s cartoon reboot to the 200x reboot to the mini-comics from 2012 and then all the stuff that DC published over the last several years and now MOTUR and the new CGI show...it's all different enough that you can pretty much just pick which ones you like and ignore the rest. It's certainly nothing to get so worked up about.
Also, why does anyone care what this Scott guy says about whether or not this new MOTUR series is canon? He has zero to do with the show and has no more official say on it than any one of us here.
The point of noting to the extent on Spectre was that it goes to character. Everything was a mentality of "MOTU wont sell or work at mass retail" and "one man making all decisions based on his own machinations..." w the figure being a culmination of a stroke of ones own ego. Using his own opinion in higher regard despite mass opinion contradicting much of it. And that figure standing tall that he is king of the MOTU people and what he believes trumps all others. Its quite a stark indictment. And very much on the nose.
@@ClunkerSlim Yep that’s exactly how I feel. All the stuff involving the toys, from the forced exclusivity to the poor distribution and stealing someone else’s ideas...it’s all shady and actually pretty despicable. But all the stuff about the cartoons, multiverse stuff, etc. seemed very out of place and completely irrelevant to the toy stuff.
I have been saying there are no writers out there,also people get jobs of who they know ,not what they know,like I say knowledge with no wisdom, awesome again retroblasting
Hey you think they should make a realistic movie based on Groo ??? 😂
We are all getting the “inside baseball” of the big toy industry - so now the kids that these toys were meant for have been shoved out of the way to chase the adult collector dollars - I will not be spending any money on these products, they have taken the joy out of all of it
it was 13 years ago
It’s every year with Power Con exclusives and now there’s Mattel Creations on top of that.
Not through with the whole video yet...but your saying we took Masters of the Universe from kindergarten writing to third grade? That is progress!
Edit: Are we really talking about solid world building in a MOTU video? MOTU was cobbled together to sell toys. It does needs a multiverse just to explain the mini comics, cartoon, and comics.
1:09 I respectfully disagree. J.J. Abrams didn't highjack Star Trek TOS for a profit. He reinvigorated it. Big difference.
Fan blaming. The first place the guilty go when they're busted.
This. Was. Savage. . .
Just. Savage!
If you're trying to get the fans back on board, you kinda need to start at an established point at least and move forward from there.
Pass the baton if need be, but yeah it needs to be logical and well written.
Self insertion can't be the endgame, not everyone will follow it or even agree to it.
This dude did his thing and it didn't work out.
Self insertion is cool in your own 'verse and maybe to a few friends.
But you can't "hijack" a fandom and hold it hostage. Then when it goes off the rails and faces harsh feedback, cop out of it leaving it in a smoking wreck.
Some things fans might like, but at least take in info and ideas for serious consideration.
But I had no idea it was this big of a dumpster fire. 😅
I just counted each iteration as its own telling and left it at that.
Some of the many reboots we see are good in their own light.
While others are trash and reek as much.
But seeing as how this debacle likely contributed to the decimation of toy aisles, Toys R Us and shifted collecting for fun as a whole?
It needed to be spoken on and put up for view.
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SO, basically, you're describing the way EA went in the early 2000 and still is.
MOTU always seems to attract jerks with big egos. Not sure why. I guess they want “the power”?
I feel like I missed a gauntlet drop that happened prior to this. Can someone clue me in?
I don't know if it started with that, but last week Retro made a video about the Haslab Sentinel and why the crowdfunding was a scam. Yesterday Scott made a video defending Haslab in which he told collectors to be grateful for it. It was very out of touch from Scott
GET EMILIANO SANTALUCIA on the show. Joe amato is great, and been around supporting the property from way back. He should alao be keenly aware of what happened to Emiliano.
what happened?
I agree. Hate all the reboots and kind-of-sequels that pretend to be sequels, but are reboots. Where are the legit GHOSTBUSTERS- STAR WARS and HE-MAN-sequels?
he's the shit guru
23:24 my god that is just- I- I don’t know where to begin
I originally got into MOTU when it was first introduced. I was in my teens. As far as the lore was concerned I always felt the mini comics and possibly the first DC mini series was the “ bible”. Always preferred those stories to the Filmation cartoon, but I understand it’s importance to the children of the 80’s. I have completely ignored the existence mighty Spector. king he-man etc in a similar way to how I ignore the three SW sequels. As far as I’m concerned the Thrawn Trilogy is my post original trilogy Star Wars. Michael, one word that you kept repeating, “stewardship” continues to resonate with me. Very true.
This is about the guy who runs the Spector Creative youtube channel isn't it?
This is an interesting video for sure. While the argument that multiverse's are lazy...there is a precedent in MOTU: because this line started with two continuities. The mini-comics and the cartoon had totally different things happening. It then evolved into a third continuity when they added aspects of the show to the mini-comics. And. let's not forget the DC comic as well. This gives writers a lot to draw from and, if handled the way Bruce Timm handled Justice League, you can cherry pick from them all to create the best possible stories.