Do Temperature Swings Really Matter on an Offset Smoker? | Smoke Lab with Steve Gow | Oklahoma Joe's

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Will temperature swings on your offset smoker affect the quality of your brisket or other meats? Steve Gow from ‪@SmokeTrailsBBQ‬ conducts an experiment to find out, comparing two briskets on the #OklahomaJoes Longhorn Offset Smoker - one with steady temps and one with WILD temp swings. Let’s find out if there’s a difference.
    Offset Smoker Brisket Recipe
    Ingredients:
    Meat
    10-15 lb brisket (Choice grade or higher)
    Rub
    Quarter cup course black pepper
    Quarter cup kosher salt
    Tablespoon Lawry’s Seasoned Salt
    Wrap liquid
    1/3 cup beef tallow
    1/3 cup clarified butter/Ghee (or substitute with normal butter):
    Technique
    Trim brisket
    Mix rub ingredients in shaker bottle, add small amount of vegetable oil to help mixture stay consistent
    Apply rub to brisket, starting with back and sides, and finishing with fat cap
    Place large water pan on grate next to firebox with a few inches gap from the firebox to allow heat up and over the water pan
    Place brisket on cold side of the smoker with thicker point end of brisket toward the firebox
    Smoke at 250 for 4 hours (Note: Temperatures can be +/- 25 degrees of target temp)
    Increase temperatures to 285 for around 8 hours or until the brisket probes at least 190-195 everywhere in the brisket
    Wrap brisket in butcher paper with beef tallow and clarified butter
    Place wrapped brisket in aluminum pan with quarter cup water added, foil top tightly. If aluminum pan is unavailable wrap, brisket with aluminum foil, ensuring liquid cannot leak from bottom.
    Place brisket into holding device (holding oven, electric smoker, regular oven etc.) at 150 and hold for 15-20 hours. If using oven, check manual for instructions on how to adjust temperature down to attain 150 degrees - recommend confirming actual oven temps ahead of time with remote-graphing probe thermometer placed in a pan of water in the oven to ensure oven can hold meat at a steady 150 indefinitely.
    Remove brisket from wrap, slice against the grain and serve.

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  • @fiftyf1
    @fiftyf1 Рік тому +1

    This is good content Steve! I really appreciate watching you use the Longhorn. I own a 20+ year old one, and really like it. I am learning how to make small changes to the fire often in order to maintain temp. I was told by others that OKJ smokers were not capable of making great BBQ. You have proven them wrong, and educated me in the process. Thanks!

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому

      They can totally make amazing BBQ! Thank you for watching man!

  • @CowboyCree63
    @CowboyCree63 Рік тому +3

    I'm glad to see this, I tend to have issues with temp control, I try to keep it within a 50 degree range (25 above/below the target).

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому +2

      I think it's kind of a feature, not a bug, for offsets. Even on my much larger offset I still have temperature variation.

    • @bryred9299
      @bryred9299 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for this comment! I also have wild temperature swings on my offset. Watching numerous smoking videos on here it seems they never have issues with keeping a steady temperature and rarely do they mention temperature swings as being ok.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому

      @@bryred9299 Yep they are ok within reason of course

  • @bryred9299
    @bryred9299 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video. I struggle with a steady temp in my offset so it's nice to know others do as well but it won't affect the meat too much.

  • @Sandmann03
    @Sandmann03 Рік тому +1

    Great that Oklahoma Joe is giving a try on good usefull content. I hope to see more of you instead of just seeing product Promotion. I love the idea of smoke lab. Best greetings from Germany.

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay77 Рік тому +1

    Great experiment.

  • @jonbuettner270
    @jonbuettner270 Рік тому +1

    Glad you are on here now. STB is the bomb.

  • @Grace_Davin
    @Grace_Davin Рік тому +1

    Very informative 🔥🔥

  • @Poorsportsman
    @Poorsportsman Рік тому +1

    From a design perspective for small offsets, I wonder if the overhead door in the fire box contributes to temp fluctuations. I have a Highlander with a basket. I'm thinking of modifying the basket so I can feed wood from the damper door and leave the door directly above the fire closed the entire cook.
    As a northern smoker, also, the feed rate of wood increases in cold weather, which allows the heat from the fire to escape every split added.
    I haven't seen a video focussed on temp control comparing how splits are fed into a small offset. For cold weather smoking I think side feeding of splits has the potential to flatten out temp swings, by not allowing the fire box heat to escape with every added split.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому

      Yes the chamber temps do dip a little bit when the firebox lid is opened.

    • @olesam8970
      @olesam8970 Рік тому

      Not a bad idea.....

  • @TomW2034
    @TomW2034 Рік тому +2

    I suspected this even with the relatively little amount of brisket I have made. A twist on this topic you might consider is to do the same thing again, but skip the 10 - 18 hour hold at 150 degF and let the meat stand 1/2 hour or so before slicing. I am curious what those results would be.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому +1

      I've tested with a 203+ probe tender brisket rested 2 hours against a 190 & hold brisket many times and I like the 190 hold briskets. Would be a good experiment though with multiple taste testers.

  • @WillGowKelowna
    @WillGowKelowna Рік тому +2

    Great videos

  • @BigChuck525
    @BigChuck525 Рік тому

    How do you think the up and down Temps effected the smoke flavor? It should have added more "dirty" smoke which I don't necessarily is always a bad thing.

  • @harrythehorsebbq
    @harrythehorsebbq Рік тому +1

    Maybe test something along the lines of the rate or the extremity of temp swings between insulated, semi insulated, and non insulated fireboxes 🤔

  • @CarlosNunez-t2r
    @CarlosNunez-t2r Рік тому +2

    Can you make videos on Oklahoma Joes smoker mods?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому

      I'm thinking about it. Trying to gather up all the most common mods first.

  • @Keasbeysknight
    @Keasbeysknight Рік тому

    I've given up on it... My offset is too small, if I try to get 3/4 of it full there's gonna be an area just roasting and others that are okay... I just make sure there's always a fire going and always a log in there. If it's 200-300 I don't care. The long rest is the great equalizer

  • @mattvangampler7508
    @mattvangampler7508 Рік тому +1

    I cooked ribs this past weekend on my longhorn and i had it steady at 260-265 for 6 hours straight. I had 1 flare up that spiked to 280, but i was able to settle it within 15min. I recorded weather at 42F and felt like 39F. I didn't pay too much attention to it either. The Longhorn holds really well for a solid 25-30min before needing a new split. Granted, I have it gasketed and a smoke stack extension

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому

      That's amazing! Do you think the extension and gaskets help?

    • @mattvangampler7508
      @mattvangampler7508 Рік тому +1

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ 100%! I had some leaks from the firebox and smoking chamber, so I got the gaskets and clamps. They work wonders! As far as the smoke stack extension, it draws very well. Living in Alaska, Temps don't get optimal for offsets (as you are likely familiar). I have a nice, hot, healthy fire with every cook

    • @mattvangampler7508
      @mattvangampler7508 Рік тому +1

      I used the charcoal basket and kept a channel carved in the coals perpendicular to the vent and laid the split across it. Quick combustion within 15-20sec. Kept temps very stable. Winds were 5-10mph as well

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому

      @@mattvangampler7508 Nice! did you control the temps by opening/closing the inlet vent/door?

  • @ScottysBackYardBBQ
    @ScottysBackYardBBQ Рік тому +1

    no idea, i have no temp gauges on my offset, i am old school. learned at a young age how to build a fire. anf manage temp by feel.

  • @8Nguy1948
    @8Nguy1948 Рік тому

    How thick is the metal on that Okkahoma Joe ?

    • @Ric11111
      @Ric11111 Рік тому

      I have one. I think its about an 1/8th inch. Yes Firebox too.

  • @alldayfeenom
    @alldayfeenom Рік тому +1

    How did you make your sous-vide holding chest?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому +1

      I drilled a hole in an old chest freezer and installed a sous vide machine.

    • @alldayfeenom
      @alldayfeenom Рік тому +1

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ did you add water inside the freezer chest or no?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ Рік тому +1

      @@alldayfeenom yes there's a few inches of water in the bottom for the sous vide machine to heat. The heated water creates hot water vapor that fills the entire chest at the same temp as the water is heated to.

  • @bluesdemitra38
    @bluesdemitra38 Рік тому +1

    Next experiment: Kiln dried wood vs seasoned wood

  • @Edible_Semtex_
    @Edible_Semtex_ Рік тому

    I don’t get how people keep steady temps. My temps stay between 215-300. For every cook .