I was very impressed with Naomis positive response to, at times, examples of classic negative BBC Paxman style journalism. Well spoken, thought provoking and focused on solutions rather than almost revelling in the gloom of our times.
Fantastic interview. Reasoned, courteous, evidenced, humane and most of all joined-up. Wouldn't it be great if we all really listened to what Naomi Klein is saying, abandoned our political tribal feelings and looked optimistically at change that could really tackle the problems caused by globalisation, affecting ordinary people all over the world. Listen without prejudice, I say and if you wouldn't normally consider solutions like this because of an aversion to something labelled, say, 'socialism', try to engage with the arguments based on evidence and see if you can really disagree with anything she says.
I'm a US citizen, and I attended a 20,000-person Trump rally the month after he won the election, and all I saw were middle class and upper middle class people. I also heard Pence speak at a smaller gathering, and in 2020 I heard Ivanka speak. Again, they were all educated, middle and upper-middle class people. In addition to this, I have engaged with hundreds of Trump voters in my personal life over the last 5 years. Again, everyone that I know is VERY well-versed in politics and economics --- most are "educated", contrary to what the Left likes to say about Trump supporters. I have coastal liberal friends, who sound much like these two, who have never met in-person a Trump voter, other than me. Their views of Trump and Trump voters, much like these two, are based upon the limited information they receive from the Liberal media echo chamber. I haven't owned a TV in 20 years, and when I did own one I had no cable and never watched it --- my wife watched it. So I have never once seen an episode of "The Apprentice". I don't have a vision or image of Trump as someone who "fires people". My prior knowledge of Trump was from the '80s when I was in college in NY and he was much in the news, and from a 60 Minutes interview with Barbra Walters, in which I was SUPER-impressed with Trump's kids, and thought, "Wow, if he has kids that good he must be a great Dad." If only these two knew what they were talking about.
Naomi Klein seems to have such a grasp intellectual wisdom like deep introspective of the agenda that needs to be recognized in order to better Our Lives 0I recommend and I'm going to read all her books from now on. She's a gift of a n author
If this gentleman would simply get out of Naomi's way to provide her comments, that would be helpful. He wastes much time by getting in the middle of her answers, all while saying he's trying to hear her comments. he seems to have this glorified self-image that doesn't permit him to serve as a skilled journalist and questioner. This is to be expected among corporate news channels and even the BBC Brotherhood of Blovietors. They're under such pressure to veer conversation where their bosses want it.
It's interesting the points she makes, but then I wanted John to ask her about Trump, in that he is all that represents neo-liberalism. He is corporate capitalism personified. Yeah, he wasn't a politician already part of the system but he had always been one of the biggest elites in the game yet the people voted for him anyway. Thoughts?
WhyOWhy I appreciate Clinton isn't a saint but I never understand when people-mostly Americans-call her a bad candidate. Especially when the alternative it Trump. I can't imagine she'd do a worse job than he has been doing.
Missy: Problem with Clinton is, if she had been elected, we'd still be asleep the way we were during the two Obama administrations. Trump is a wake-up call we can't ignore.
cinema writer - left right / clinton or trumpf is a fake argument. a false narrative. nice try pal. bernie sanders and others like him were kept out of the race and purposefully so - the elite corrupt election system controlled this outcome and has for a long time.
War on affordable housing" (extended interview) = CAPITALISM without mercy!!! Like in L.A., San Francisco, Chicago, Harrisburg, Centralia, Detroit, and, and, and!!!
Good interview. I know that Jon Snow was seeking clarity in places, eg ethnic cleansing in New Orleans, but he interrupted too often. I disagree about Corbyn. Once youngsters so impressed by his election campaign realise he's a Brexiter, I reckon a lot of them will be disenchanted, and go back to apathy.
How's Venezuela going Naomi? You praised it so highly.
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I think he made his name in real estate? Does this woman spend her time watching reality TV? As for Trump self destroying, unless the DNC offer a viable option in 2020 with someone like Tulsey Gabbard, I am sitting on the fence. The party of Franklin Roosevelt lost its way and moral compass.
The economic/personal financial reasons are intriguing, but doesn't itself explain "Why *Trump*, and not equally "bad boy" Ted Cruz, or Bernie Sanders?". Seems to me Trump's real appeal is his macho, bulldozer personality (Americans tend to confuse that with leadership).
I've bought and read No Logo, The Shock Doctrine and This Changes Everything and I've hugely enjoyed them all (particularly The Shock Doctrine): the masses of research, the highly engaging and readable writing style, the clear structure and narrative line. I Haven't read No Is Not Enough yet but I'm getting the impression that it's going to be focused heavily on Trump and internal US politics and not so relevant for anyone living outside - though I do appreciate that the US president impacts the globe and not just the US itself.
What is american CAPITALISM? Greed, EGOISM and Profit, thats all! Socialism is a Solidarity, Humans/Workers Solidarity, not in fucking "Jesus Christ", Solidarity in the Security, Money and Insurance!!! Like in Finland, not christian Society, Sweden too!!!
Bernie, now the most popular politician in the US just lost and he should go away when he is over 40% more popular then Hillary, if you say this out load it just sounds ridiculous? What absurd, fact free bias from the interviewer.
I say, she, Mrs Naomi Klein, she is very pretty Women, but about her Charakter I can,t say nothing, but this is the most important Side of the Humans!!!
Witch Person you liked Mrs Naomi? Joe Biden? He is a most corrupt Person at US-Con gress, like his best Friend Barack Obama! Donald Trump? He is a big Liar, and?!!! Bernie Sanders? He was the best Person for US-President, but Americans hates Socialism!!! Americans liked more to sleeping on the Streets and in Tates, than at Home!!!
I think she is well intentioned and I have a left ideology (NOT THE USA LEFT but the rest of the WORLD's LEFT... without liberalism) but I want to vomit each time Naomi talks Against the RIGHT wing like they are a subspecies, this is so SAD that she FOLLOWS this DIVISIVE narrative... cause in FACT there is not Right or Left... there is just a division encouraged and hatred ... within the nation... to keep this same nation distracted from their real power WHICH MEANS (Demos : people, Kratos : power) ... You don’t know the most important thing there is to know... WHAT really IS and WAS supposed to be Democracy... listen closely... The ancient Greece invented the term democracy and it was about PEOPLE voting for LAWS and NOT at all about ELECTIONS or a new kind of « kings » and elite that would RULE US !!!! ... There were NO elections in the original democracy... this is just a lie to make you believe you are having a democracy... so you will shut up, submit, be divided from left, to right wing and hate other citizens ... When the monarchies started to fall, Kings, nobles and rich people were so afraid of people taking power they found out how they could keep influencing decisions and make people believe they have some kind of power ! Oligarchs and the political elites would be their friends, puppets… and people would hate eachothers !! It is time to LOVE the people and beat this system down !!
Snow makes a great point, if Klein realises that branding works on a majority of the voters, but she continues to use analytical/intellectual arguments alone, how can she expect to capture them?
"Life expectancy 5 years lower than Greece" - I'm sorry but this comment is deeply offensive. Greece may be have a high public debt but it's a first world country with very a high standard of living. So it's a very unfortunate comment by the BBC presenter to compare America to Greece as if Greece is Africa or something...
Good interview. I know that Jon Snow was seeking clarity in places, eg ethnic cleansing in New Orleans, but he interrupted too often. I disagree about Corbyn. Once youngsters so impressed by his election campaign realise he's a Brexiter, I reckon a lot of them will be disenchanted, and go back to apathy.
Thanks Naomi for everything you do from Bristol. Wonderful that you came to speak here. Hope springs eternal!
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I love Naomi Klein, she was the first person to open my eyes to the world as it is with her book: 'No logo'. She is such an amazing person.
She did a great interview there, touched a lot of points that had actual solutions instead of just pointing out what's wrong. Well done
I was very impressed with Naomis positive response to, at times, examples of classic negative BBC Paxman style journalism. Well spoken, thought provoking and focused on solutions rather than almost revelling in the gloom of our times.
its not the bbc, and its not paxman style, jon snow is doing his job by questioning her statements and debating the point.
"Your activism is attractive" Will have to try that chat up line Jon!Great thought provoking interview though in all seriousness 👍
as if jon needs chat up lines.
Smooth.
Wealthy media pundits don't like socialism.
I'd guess jon snow would be a socialist though.
I imagine 'fuck the Tories' earned him some points :)
Naomi is my homie.
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pretty stupid questions from Snow. Guess he's playing devil's advocate but come on Jon. And stop interrupting!
Exactly. thanks.
affordable housing is the big issue for workers acrross the major cities in the world. Dublin london sydney new york
She's excellent. And what an unusually good interview.
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Interesting and thought provoking. Despite many interruptions she got her points across. I shall watch out for this lady in future.
Fantastic interview. Reasoned, courteous, evidenced, humane and most of all joined-up. Wouldn't it be great if we all really listened to what Naomi Klein is saying, abandoned our political tribal feelings and looked optimistically at change that could really tackle the problems caused by globalisation, affecting ordinary people all over the world. Listen without prejudice, I say and if you wouldn't normally consider solutions like this because of an aversion to something labelled, say, 'socialism', try to engage with the arguments based on evidence and see if you can really disagree with anything she says.
Bernie still has a chance!!!!
Trump's 71, and apparently he's super great and strong enough to reign over America for a thousand years.
I sense Bernie could carry on in 2020.
This response reminds me of the movie wherein Jim Carey was rejected by a girl and gave a similar one...
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein
I'm a US citizen, and I attended a 20,000-person Trump rally the month after he won the election, and all I saw were middle class and upper middle class people. I also heard Pence speak at a smaller gathering, and in 2020 I heard Ivanka speak. Again, they were all educated, middle and upper-middle class people.
In addition to this, I have engaged with hundreds of Trump voters in my personal life over the last 5 years. Again, everyone that I know is VERY well-versed in politics and economics --- most are "educated", contrary to what the Left likes to say about Trump supporters.
I have coastal liberal friends, who sound much like these two, who have never met in-person a Trump voter, other than me. Their views of Trump and Trump voters, much like these two, are based upon the limited information they receive from the Liberal media echo chamber.
I haven't owned a TV in 20 years, and when I did own one I had no cable and never watched it --- my wife watched it. So I have never once seen an episode of "The Apprentice". I don't have a vision or image of Trump as someone who "fires people". My prior knowledge of Trump was from the '80s when I was in college in NY and he was much in the news, and from a 60 Minutes interview with Barbra Walters, in which I was SUPER-impressed with Trump's kids, and thought, "Wow, if he has kids that good he must be a great Dad."
If only these two knew what they were talking about.
Naomi is great!
Naomi Klein seems to have such a grasp intellectual wisdom like deep introspective of the agenda that needs to be recognized in order to better Our Lives 0I recommend and I'm going to read all her books from now on. She's a gift of a n author
Don't worry about backlash, Naomi. Trump fans don't read.
If this gentleman would simply get out of Naomi's way to provide her comments, that would be helpful. He wastes much time by getting in the middle of her answers, all while saying he's trying to hear her comments. he seems to have this glorified self-image that doesn't permit him to serve as a skilled journalist and questioner. This is to be expected among corporate news channels and even the BBC Brotherhood of Blovietors. They're under such pressure to veer conversation where their bosses want it.
I LOVE THIS WOMAN!
Go Naomi! You make sense to me.
Why did Channel 4 cut-out Naomi's insight on Grenfell @ 10:28??????
Because she shattered the fourth wall which is their bread and butter
Corruption is the number one problem of the US Political System.
Why won't this fool let her talk? HE is so rude!
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Are you referring to the Reaganomics and Thatcherism? If so, I couldn't agree more.
Stop interrupting her so much! Let her finish her points! She knows how to structure her arguments!
In Germany is a same situation with Apartments too!!!
Naomi is very impressive. Jon Snow is one of the only journalists who senses that "Winter is coming"
It's interesting the points she makes, but then I wanted John to ask her about Trump, in that he is all that represents neo-liberalism. He is corporate capitalism personified. Yeah, he wasn't a politician already part of the system but he had always been one of the biggest elites in the game yet the people voted for him anyway. Thoughts?
WhyOWhy I appreciate Clinton isn't a saint but I never understand when people-mostly Americans-call her a bad candidate. Especially when the alternative it Trump. I can't imagine she'd do a worse job than he has been doing.
Missy: Problem with Clinton is, if she had been elected, we'd still be asleep the way we were during the two Obama administrations. Trump is a wake-up call we can't ignore.
Amazing how some people were able to see a billionaire globalist as anti-elite anti-globalist.
Being Canadian she tends not to obsess about the Great Orange Turnip.
cinema writer - left right / clinton or trumpf is a fake argument. a false narrative. nice try pal. bernie sanders and others like him were kept out of the race and purposefully so - the elite corrupt election system controlled this outcome and has for a long time.
War on affordable housing" (extended interview) = CAPITALISM without mercy!!! Like
in L.A., San Francisco, Chicago, Harrisburg, Centralia, Detroit, and, and, and!!!
"Hurrican "Kathrina" is HAARPS dirty criminal work!!!
I wish the interviewer would stop cutting her off.
Good interview. I know that Jon Snow was seeking clarity in places, eg ethnic cleansing in New Orleans, but he interrupted too often.
I disagree about Corbyn. Once youngsters so impressed by his election campaign realise he's a Brexiter, I reckon a lot of them will be disenchanted, and go back to apathy.
Again: Hurrican "Kathrina" is a criminal work of HAARP Technology and US-Navy!!!
Great to see Naomi Klein here in the UK and many thanks to channel 4 news for having her on!
How's Venezuela going Naomi? You praised it so highly.
I think he made his name in real estate? Does this woman spend her time watching reality TV? As for Trump self destroying, unless the DNC offer a viable option in 2020 with someone like Tulsey Gabbard, I am sitting on the fence. The party of Franklin Roosevelt lost its way and moral compass.
Republicans are extremely Conservativ TEA-Party!!! Sarah Palin&Donald Trump!!!
naomi klein and bernie sanders i wish them prosperety and victory
The economic/personal financial reasons are intriguing, but doesn't itself explain "Why *Trump*, and not equally "bad boy" Ted Cruz, or Bernie Sanders?". Seems to me Trump's real appeal is his macho, bulldozer personality (Americans tend to confuse that with leadership).
I've bought and read No Logo, The Shock Doctrine and This Changes Everything and I've hugely enjoyed them all (particularly The Shock Doctrine): the masses of research, the highly engaging and readable writing style, the clear structure and narrative line. I Haven't read No Is Not Enough yet but I'm getting the impression that it's going to be focused heavily on Trump and internal US politics and not so relevant for anyone living outside - though I do appreciate that the US president impacts the globe and not just the US itself.
make corbyn pm, kick out the tories and make the changes we need!
What is american CAPITALISM? Greed, EGOISM and Profit, thats all! Socialism is a
Solidarity, Humans/Workers Solidarity, not in fucking "Jesus Christ", Solidarity in the
Security, Money and Insurance!!! Like in Finland, not christian Society, Sweden too!!!
Bernie, now the most popular politician in the US just lost and he should go away when he is over 40% more popular then Hillary, if you say this out load it just sounds ridiculous? What absurd, fact free bias from the interviewer.
This interviewer prefers to listen to himself talking.
A lot of money to be made from green development,wind farms in my area provide income for community projects.
this old guy should retire....
This guy is BS. Greece's life expectancy is the same as that of the UK.
Typical Englishman. What arrogance!
Why is Socialism / WORKERS Party, the biggest TABU in USA?!!!
self explode .. nice term.. yet will it happen or will it be made to happen?
I say, she, Mrs Naomi Klein, she is very pretty Women, but about her Charakter I can,t
say nothing, but this is the most important Side of the Humans!!!
However you care to 'slice it', the common man is being 'bought' rather cheaply.
Great prediction from her 😂
Witch Person you liked Mrs Naomi? Joe Biden? He is a most corrupt Person at US-Con
gress, like his best Friend Barack Obama! Donald Trump? He is a big Liar, and?!!! Bernie
Sanders? He was the best Person for US-President, but Americans hates Socialism!!!
Americans liked more to sleeping on the Streets and in Tates, than at Home!!!
10:28 why was this cut?
Gods, Jon, stop interupting and talking over her!
I think she is well intentioned and I have a left ideology (NOT THE USA LEFT but the rest of the WORLD's LEFT... without liberalism) but I want to vomit each time Naomi talks Against the RIGHT wing like they are a subspecies, this is so SAD that she FOLLOWS this DIVISIVE narrative... cause in FACT there is not Right or Left... there is just a division encouraged and hatred ... within the nation... to keep this same nation distracted from their real power WHICH MEANS (Demos : people, Kratos : power) ... You don’t know the most important thing there is to know... WHAT really IS and WAS supposed to be Democracy... listen closely... The ancient Greece invented the term democracy and it was about PEOPLE voting for LAWS and NOT at all about ELECTIONS or a new kind of « kings » and elite that would RULE US !!!! ... There were NO elections in the original democracy... this is just a lie to make you believe you are having a democracy... so you will shut up, submit, be divided from left, to right wing and hate other citizens ... When the monarchies started to fall, Kings, nobles and rich people were so afraid of people taking power they found out how they could keep influencing decisions and make people believe they have some kind of power ! Oligarchs and the political elites would be their friends, puppets… and people would hate eachothers !! It is time to LOVE the people and beat this system down !!
What about letting her finish her sentences?? Interviewing also means listening.
Why do theses interviewers keep on interrupting their guests when obviously they haven't finished the point their trying to make!
that people think Trump is an outsider is laughable.
1:23 you alright there Jon?!
"blame?!" not biased at channel 4 are they! haha....
NOT in Capitalism, Mrs Naomi Klein, and you know very well too! Capitalism isnt work!
not too big a fan of the snooty British interviewer
Snow makes a great point, if Klein realises that branding works on a majority of the voters, but she continues to use analytical/intellectual arguments alone, how can she expect to capture them?
This women has clearly never been to a war zone
"Life expectancy 5 years lower than Greece" - I'm sorry but this comment is deeply offensive. Greece may be have a high public debt but it's a first world country with very a high standard of living. So it's a very unfortunate comment by the BBC presenter to compare America to Greece as if Greece is Africa or something...
I want to to live on this lady's planet where America isn't 20 TRILLION dollars in debt ...
blah blah blah
OHH Jeremy Corbyn!! OHH Jeremy Corbyn!! OHH Jeremy Corbyn!! OHH Jeremy Corbyn!!
Very, very beautiful WOMEN!!!
Naomi forgets herself as part of the elite. The middle finger means her too. She should better shut up.
Bernie was the real guy...he was cornered by the establishment, I supported Trump but he is really disappointing
She's my homegirl. Wish I'd married her....
This woman has the same voice as Molly Ringwald
She is masking, she does a better job than Sean Spicer.
I wish I was married to Naomi Klein. She's, like, perfect and stuff.
Good interview. I know that Jon Snow was seeking clarity in places, eg ethnic cleansing in New Orleans, but he interrupted too often.
I disagree about Corbyn. Once youngsters so impressed by his election campaign realise he's a Brexiter, I reckon a lot of them will be disenchanted, and go back to apathy.