The making of an 800 Series Diamond speaker

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  • @HonJazzz
    @HonJazzz Рік тому +1

    One day I’ll own a pair of

  • @butwait
    @butwait 7 років тому +5

    I own a pair of 802d's and I love them. I will keep these forever...:)

  • @TheSticknstones
    @TheSticknstones 13 років тому +3

    I started with the 804 Nautilus sold them 7 years later at 75% of the original cost used that plus new money to buy the 802 Nautilus. It weighs 154 pounds per speaker and the sound is spectacular. I will eventually sell them to get the 802D Nautilus. The moral of this story is they hold their value way better than a car and an heirloom in your family. They are stunning to see and hear!

  • @leonmare6315
    @leonmare6315 9 років тому +13

    Wonderful to watch how the best is made. I listen to Classical Music on my B&W CDM9NTs every day - what a pleasure!

    • @xsamitt
      @xsamitt 4 роки тому

      The best !!!!! Go watch how an Eggelstonworks speaker is made......then you will have seen the best!

  • @aaronvx220
    @aaronvx220 12 років тому +2

    Anyone who is sceptical about buying these speakers should not be, i previously went to visit my uncles he had bowers and wilking 802 series diamond and they sounded amazing its acctually unbeliabable how good they are. You could play them to the maximum voleum possible and there was no distortion (the sound quality was amazing) I would definantly reccomend getting any B&W products. BIG SMILE :)

  • @AlexanderCB1982
    @AlexanderCB1982 4 роки тому +2

    I LOVE the 800 series, thanks!!

  • @corey1845
    @corey1845 12 років тому +1

    Whatching this video with the B&W P5 Headphones... Guy seriously... NO SERIOUSLY, THESE ARE THE VERY BEST HEADPHONES I EVER HAD! WAY better than any Beats or others, and every cent i payed worth it! Believe me, if you want good headphones... REALLY GOOD Headphones, go and buy the P5!
    Thanks so much Bowers&Wilkins!

  • @MaZEEZaM
    @MaZEEZaM 11 років тому +6

    Great to see the making of these speakers :-)

  • @yourphxrealtor
    @yourphxrealtor 12 років тому +2

    bowers and wilkins, you always pick good music for your videos.

  • @444Patricky
    @444Patricky 12 років тому +1

    Very nice video and of course nice speakers.

  • @mornecoetzee735
    @mornecoetzee735 6 років тому +2

    These speakers (especially the 802 D2) sounds amazing!! Listen and you'll see.....🎶

  • @dans8935
    @dans8935 3 роки тому +1

    IMO these are the most beautiful loudspeakers ever made! I'm not a fan of the new 800 series (d3), but these older D2s are just so beautiful to look at! I love my 802 Diamonds (D2), but plan on upgrading to 800 D2s once a nice used set comes up for sale.

    • @dans8935
      @dans8935 2 роки тому

      @@lynnhenson3042 Do it! You only live once! I think this style will be a collectors item in another 5-10 years.

  • @kazz330
    @kazz330 12 років тому

    Watched it. Again and again.

  • @MateusRochadeMedeiros
    @MateusRochadeMedeiros 12 років тому +2

    Amazing! Pure engineering

  • @bowerswilkins
    @bowerswilkins  13 років тому +1

    @irh007 Hi, the music is by a band called Spiro and the track is The Darkling Plains.

  • @Melvin2808
    @Melvin2808 5 років тому +1

    What a dream to have one pair of those 800 one day!

  • @daniloreyes2
    @daniloreyes2 13 років тому +1

    Love them, great video.

  • @ENTR0P1
    @ENTR0P1 13 років тому +1

    Extraordinary!

  • @joehappyjoehappy
    @joehappyjoehappy 8 місяців тому

    I like this video very much, like couple of years wants to come back to watch, still amazed, may I request a new version for the new 801D4 signature ? 😊

  • @luisvalencia5225
    @luisvalencia5225 7 років тому +2

    Amazing speaker 😍

  • @corey1845
    @corey1845 12 років тому

    my sound is definitly not lacking, and check the size... the sound for such small headphones ist phenomenal! aaand they look amazing^^

  • @trevorcourt1403
    @trevorcourt1403 3 роки тому

    Stunning

  • @paulmac63
    @paulmac63 12 років тому +1

    Fair enough , it was just reading your post you seemed to be insinuating that B&W didn't know what they are talking about in respect of their sales pitch. apologies for first reply :)

  • @AhmadzairiBinOsman
    @AhmadzairiBinOsman 12 років тому +1

    Amazing

  • @Squishmallows24
    @Squishmallows24 4 роки тому

    Just order 5, can’t wait.

  • @landisvaldoribeiro4673
    @landisvaldoribeiro4673 4 роки тому +2

    Top

  • @ericeng91
    @ericeng91 12 років тому

    I have never seen the use of the word "eddy" in fluid dynamics until I did a quick wiki search. I just use a different term when describing these types of "eddy currents". And I definitely am not under-estimating B&W. I have a pair of the 686Bs, albeit lower end, I love them. I was just commenting on the written portion of their article. They have an accompanying video where the engineer does a great job explaining.

  • @DarthTyranusbr
    @DarthTyranusbr 13 років тому

    Just beautiful! One day i will have this floorspeakers, but I live in a Country where these B&W costs 3x more than in Europe and US. It's more complicated...but...one day!!!!

  • @DMcH-gj6gv
    @DMcH-gj6gv 10 років тому

    I got the B&W DM603 speakers and they sound really good.These must sound even better.

  • @reji1rajan
    @reji1rajan 4 роки тому +1

    Wish I had these pair in my room

  • @kingofpunk1977
    @kingofpunk1977 12 років тому +1

    Expensive but compared to other speakers they are worth the money

  • @alexmcc89
    @alexmcc89 12 років тому

    Listened to it all with my B&W 685's, wooooohhhhh!! :)

  • @calinyoz
    @calinyoz 12 років тому

    I have been lucky enough to own these speakers, they are excellent in each and every way. And they look as beautiful as they sound. I am curious if anybody has listened the Nautilus and how does the sound compare to this.. Probably a dull questions, but are they that good?

  • @mraiwa1000
    @mraiwa1000 12 років тому +1

    Awsome!

  • @Luke-qs2cg
    @Luke-qs2cg 2 роки тому

    That response curve 😱

  • @DoNultima
    @DoNultima 12 років тому

    Gotta love B&W, proper high end speakers, second only to Snell THX Reference series :)

  • @roy4975
    @roy4975 4 роки тому +1

    I have CM10's and they are amazing. I have heard Diamond 800's on a demo and they will definetely be my upgrade when next I buy speakers. Quality craftsmanship for a quality sound.

  • @swampusmaximus
    @swampusmaximus 13 років тому

    Fantastic Vid....Thanx

  • @joeygonzo
    @joeygonzo 4 роки тому +1

    2:25, look at that network!

  • @BrusselsSouth
    @BrusselsSouth 12 років тому +1

    I'm still satisfied with the matrix 802 bought in 1992.

  • @keato02
    @keato02 12 років тому

    @bowerswilkins why did you make the tweeter out of diamond?

  • @Alexandra-Rex
    @Alexandra-Rex 10 років тому +7

    The song was horrible, but the image were wonderful :O Such craftsmanship to build something so beautiful!

  • @N4CR
    @N4CR 12 років тому

    802D or 800D will be my next speakers.

  • @Tres_Blik
    @Tres_Blik 4 роки тому

    2:56 что за этап? what is the point?

  • @irh007
    @irh007 13 років тому

    great vid whats the tune ?

  • @SiFFon-h2j
    @SiFFon-h2j 4 роки тому

    если бы они еще и играли....цены бы им небыло!

  • @armyhobo12
    @armyhobo12 12 років тому

    its a long voice coil thats thinner then most speakers but its longer to equal it out and give it better performance

  • @joske1007
    @joske1007 12 років тому +2

    Totaly Going to make one At home now I know how to

    • @tiz444
      @tiz444 6 років тому

      Me too!!

  • @ericeng91
    @ericeng91 12 років тому

    So I was about to comment about your Flowport design until I watched the video on your website. You guys should really have an engineer write parts of your website. The caption of your Flowport video states that the dimples minimize turbulence like it does on a golf ball, but that is quite the opposite of what dimples do. Your engineer Stuart Nevill does a great job explaining (correctly), but the design actually creates more turbulent flow just as on a golf ball.

  • @erikhaug
    @erikhaug 12 років тому

    I want this!

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 10 років тому +18

    Audiophile speaker cable believers would cringe at seeing that inside their speaker, very cheap wires are used to connect drivers to the crossovers and to the binding posts, so whatever 1000 dollar per meter speaker cable you're using, the current still travels trough a cheap 2 dollar per 10 meter wire.

    • @wyatt.photos
      @wyatt.photos 10 років тому +32

      Audiophile cable is the biggest scam

    • @nokivasaracom
      @nokivasaracom 10 років тому +4

      Wyatt Tyler
      There was a test in the late 1980´s regarding so-called audiophile cables and regular cables. There were meagre traces of the superiority of high-end cables. Certain minor differences could be detected with the most challenging speakers with a low impedance (say 0,5 ohms, Inifinty Kappa series afair). The test concluded that there are far major factors in a savoury sound than mere cables: Proper cones, crossover network design, behaviour in the echoless room, controlling diffractions and room acoustics. I believe that 200 € cables may not make a huge difference with my 1988 Philips CD-player and boom-boom living room...

    • @Mortison77577
      @Mortison77577 10 років тому

      nokivasaracom Almost certainly none of that was audible.

    • @wyatt.photos
      @wyatt.photos 10 років тому +2

      Ester Samuels what?

    • @Mrguy5
      @Mrguy5 10 років тому +13

      The cables used inside the 800 Diamond series, are cables from A.J Van Den Hul, made for Bowers & Wilkins. 805, 804 and 802 uses the same type, while 800 uses a thicker version. Also made by VDH. None of these are no-brand, cheap, cables.

  • @TheXtremesoundz
    @TheXtremesoundz 12 років тому

    Are they passive or active?

  • @panagiotiskafritsas4271
    @panagiotiskafritsas4271 4 роки тому

    Fantastic! Would love to see the assembly of the Chinese factory!!!

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 12 років тому +1

    Any gear that is made in China is supervised by the manufacturer and made by specialized workers completely up to standards of quality that manufacturer want's. It's not like Apple or Dell or B&W, or anyone else comes to China and starts picking random people on the street, gives them some money and tells them to build stuff in some garage. They build modern factories where stuff is made exactly as it would be made in Germany, England, France, Japan, Canada, USA, etc.

  • @DAVIDSDIEGO
    @DAVIDSDIEGO 13 років тому

    @RovexHD Perhaps their high end products might be made in the UK. However, I do not own the 800 Series, therefore I do not know...

  • @ghostzapper2006
    @ghostzapper2006 12 років тому

    These speakers in the mids and highs absolutely put Dynaudios to shame.

  • @irh007
    @irh007 13 років тому +1

    @bowerswilkins thank you 8-)

  • @thingsdemystified
    @thingsdemystified 12 років тому +2

    "Maximum volume" doesn't really mean anything. All this proves was that your uncle had a big enough amplifier to drive the speakers without distortion. I'm not saying anything about B&W here. I'm only trying to keep it real. But when I did audition B&W speakers, I was blown away by how good they sounded (not how loud they could play).

  • @louisjenvey1998
    @louisjenvey1998 12 років тому

    Because all of that polishing makes it sound better...

  • @jamesbond9873
    @jamesbond9873 5 років тому

    Love the 800s. All I have are 570s.

  • @kdomster9141
    @kdomster9141 9 років тому +3

    amounts of audio idiots below is just amazing. :) these are amazing speakers.

    • @scb2scb2
      @scb2scb2 9 років тому +3

      +k domster You do understand this is the Internet right ?, If you combine the just idiots with the even larger group of people just trolling you get this on any topic. I fully admit that part of owning these speakers or any of my other hifi stuff is enjoyment of how they look, how they are made and how they make me feel when i use them. The same is true for anything from cars, camera's, food... Fully know admitting i have/use these speakers will open me up for comments from below and above and it will be even worse if i admit i 'drive' them using a 'lowend' brand like denon (in this case a denon avp a1hdci + denon poa a1hdci bridged/biamped but so be it. Value is a tricky thing on both these buys i enjoy the end result, how they have been made and what technical solutions they have picked and why. That others feel i am crazy thats fine sometimes i ask how much they spend on their new kitchen and how often they cook but that just seems to upset them :)

  • @Mortison77577
    @Mortison77577 10 років тому +1

    Why is the cross over so big?

    • @fumo1000
      @fumo1000 9 років тому +2

      Ester Samuels Can't really see a couple of the components too well but the capacitors are likely polypropylene going into 100s of uF. Similary sized to motor run capacitors. The two inductors on the right hand side have a wide diameter... I can't tell their height but the increased diameter is likely to reduce resistance. Speaking of resistance I can't see any resistors.... although if they're precision resistors they could be the square shapes on the end of the white cables. To me this looks like a well designed, quality crossover... to inflate the price of their speakers!

    • @epiphonesg007
      @epiphonesg007 9 років тому

      +Ester Samuels
      Power handling.

    • @igettunes
      @igettunes 8 років тому

      So they munch power, make them look bigger

    • @Noah-Lach
      @Noah-Lach 5 років тому

      Probably because these speakers max out at 1,000w.

  • @ole9421
    @ole9421 11 років тому

    Ok, how much for them in kit form?

  • @ane74
    @ane74 13 років тому

    I want it !!

  • @Svulloismyhero
    @Svulloismyhero 10 років тому +1

    cool

  • @peceps
    @peceps 12 років тому

    Why does the installed drivers look like they have no magnet?

  • @DAVIDSDIEGO
    @DAVIDSDIEGO 13 років тому

    Amazing video! Are these made in the UK or China? I'm just asking because my Zeppelin Air and P5s were designed the UK; however, made in China.

  • @WL2K
    @WL2K 11 років тому

    The speed of sound through a material is but one of about 6548 things they analyze when choosing or implementing a driver material...

  • @paulgarrett4610
    @paulgarrett4610 3 роки тому

    A really good friend of mine had a pair of 802D's sadly he passed away but the 802's were amazing! No way i could afford them and he had a big room to use them in , they were sold off after he died to pay off debts but boy i wish i had have bought them though!

  • @mojo2382
    @mojo2382 4 роки тому

    Awesome I have the 805 Ds mated to McIntosh 2275 Integrated Tube Amp Sweet Airy Trasparency!!!!!!!!

  • @artharutunyan
    @artharutunyan 8 років тому +24

    at 2:02 Passed today-65, Failed today-123

    • @josmau12
      @josmau12 8 років тому +2

      you'r right. But it also says "total passes 178.185" they can't possible sell that many right? even if half of them fail that's still a large market for those expensive speakers.

    • @Beghty27
      @Beghty27 8 років тому +6

      The failed speakers just get sent back through production to have any problems corrected. It isn't like it goes straight into the trash.

    • @suma5939
      @suma5939 8 років тому +5

      if it did, i would sleep in their containers :D

    • @ultimateone624
      @ultimateone624 8 років тому

      Good Eye lol

    • @SchwizzZer
      @SchwizzZer 8 років тому +2

      The software says "D2" and the year 2011

  • @maidpretty
    @maidpretty 13 років тому

    Geez... I'm so wanting the B&W reference minimal-phase series. One day I'll get a pair dammit!

  • @ericeng91
    @ericeng91 12 років тому

    Also, your article says it creates "eddy currents". Now you're just using fancy words. Eddy currents are electrical. I think what you meant to say was "turbulent zones". The turbulent zones, however, are designed not to interfere with the sound output, but to decrease the height of the boundary layer against the walls of your port and increase the velocity of your air, all while keeping the separation point of the air to a minimum.

  • @321iseeyou
    @321iseeyou 12 років тому

    The Alexandria's are phenomenal but they do cost $195,000 a pair, the B&W speakers cost £3750 a pair (apologies for the different currencies). Hardly fair, is it?

  • @klbird
    @klbird 12 років тому +7

    The Brits can't make a good breakfast but their sound products are among the best.British engineeing combined with a real sense of art.

  • @MrJoe750li
    @MrJoe750li 12 років тому

    I just bought a pair of 800's series flagship models

  • @PetyAndr
    @PetyAndr 9 років тому

    What song is play on the video??

    • @lhe22
      @lhe22 9 років тому

      +Peter Andriichuk Fuck Song by AlwaysAskingSameQuestion

    • @PetyAndr
      @PetyAndr 9 років тому

      +Gumby Gibi 0:21
      Spiro-Darkling Plains

  • @apfelipod
    @apfelipod 13 років тому

    If I had only known that bowers and wilkins was in worthing, back when I was there myself.

  • @spsfalex
    @spsfalex 12 років тому

    I...
    I want a pair...

  • @mikreference3a130
    @mikreference3a130 6 років тому

    Ils sont où les menuisiers ?

  • @Eric.Morrison
    @Eric.Morrison 10 років тому

    gotta get a pair of these for my car

    • @SpanasyukO
      @SpanasyukO 9 років тому +2

      I was gonna get some for my bike

  • @TheHorwords
    @TheHorwords 12 років тому

    -fantastic!

  • @daniel93ss
    @daniel93ss 7 років тому +1

    Mommy, look at that crossover !

  • @Shercko
    @Shercko 12 років тому

    Ah, what I would do for a system with these.

  • @Oxibase
    @Oxibase 2 роки тому

    I wonder if they have a special program so the employees can own a pair?

  • @paulmac63
    @paulmac63 12 років тому

    I don't think you know what you are talking about eric tbh.The word eddy IS used in describing air turbulence, as with golf ball design. I also think you are underestimating the skills of B&W design. I have CDM9NT's , not as good as 800 series , but sound v price, they take some beating. 800's would be way too big for my room 15"x17"aswell, 803's probably ideal.

  • @Maisonier
    @Maisonier 2 роки тому

    Oh my goodness, this is awesome ... bad luck I'm poor and I will never could buy one of this ...

  • @oohhhdaniel
    @oohhhdaniel 11 років тому +4

    As you said before, you have never personally heard these speakers, so how can you say "low quality sound"? And if you think Bowers and Wilkins is a good "marketing scheme" then you clearly know nothing about Bose. They are 100% all about marketing their products.

  • @MaZEEZaM
    @MaZEEZaM 11 років тому +3

    +tetra digm thats a little unfortunate, you might base your opinion on your knowledge of speaker design but without hearing the speakers, These speaker get very high reviews from top quality hifi magazines. including this comment in one review "They are a true reference grade product that compete with and in many ways outperform everything in their class as well as embarrass loudspeakers costing twice as much."

  • @DGFishRfine1
    @DGFishRfine1 5 років тому +1

    You missed the part where I cut out my own kidney for resale... Gotta pay for the 802s somehow :D

  • @N4CR
    @N4CR 12 років тому

    Some of the lower models are, my older 604 s2 was made in Britain, newer ones are in china. They don't look Chinese in this video either.

  • @MrJoe750li
    @MrJoe750li 12 років тому +1

    Guy below me CM series are made in china
    Diamond series are still made Worthing England

  • @ВладимирИльин-о4к
    @ВладимирИльин-о4к 3 роки тому

    An excellent example of winding up the cost of a product that is to be sold.
    Ultimate sound quality is a chimera that doesn't exist. The very existence of auditory analyzer thresholds and functionality as a universal requirement for devices and instruments in the broadest sense of the word contradicts this understanding. It's time to abandon kevlar fibers in favor of high molecular weight graphite carbon fiber, and use high molecular weight polyethylene as a binder. You just need to learn how to cut off the heat generated on the speaker coil. And these new diaphragms will change the way we think about good dynamics. The difference in speed of sound in these materials is sufficient.

  • @theprof291166
    @theprof291166 12 років тому

    You made a mistake - the original 800 series speakers were not Matrix that came in the mid 1980s and was first fitted to the aptly named B&W Matrix 1 series. The honeycomb system invented by Laurence Dickie was then applied to the 801 and 802 to make the Matrix 801 series 2, identified by its port opening. People like Steve Roe or John Dibb could put your history straight for you.

  • @reyjulio
    @reyjulio 7 років тому

    amazing,the only bad is the price

  • @86Ivar
    @86Ivar 6 років тому +1

    WTF they use cheap spade connectors? even cheap radios got soldered terminals.

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh 7 років тому

    "Listen and you'll see" I thought I'd be hearing?

  • @kevonmanuel
    @kevonmanuel 12 років тому

    Man those Chinese made speakers are awesome..

  • @charda00
    @charda00 11 років тому

    One day...

  • @aussie_philosopher8079
    @aussie_philosopher8079 3 роки тому

    Man that's amazing. Some millionaire wanna help us out with a pair ? hahaha.