I gotta disagree with your idea for the best setup. I know it’s all personal preference, but if you’re looking to make slappies easier I think there are two essentials. 1: a nose. The nose of your board is the first thing that contacts the curb and starts guiding you up it. That doesn’t mean you can do them without a nose, it’s just a lot harder. You also don’t need a lot of nose. Just enough that when you ride your board into the curb at a 45 degree angle, your nose touches the curb first instead of your wheels. 2: wheels. Wheels are a little tough because there are two different wheels that help with different things. Rounded wheels help you get into the slappy a little better, but squared wheels (conicals) help you stay locked in better. Sometimes you can find asymmetrical wheels that have both shapes. Spitfire lock ins are probably the best example I can think of. Oj mini combos would be great to, but you’d have to ride them inside out so that the conical side was facing inside the trucks and the rounded side was facing out. I also think that bigger wheels lock in better too. I find that small ones slip out sometimes on curbs that are really rounded from wear. Anyway, the main thing I disagreed with is you saying that smaller wheels are better. I think 55s are best. That being said, you might be into something with those trucks being wider than your board. I usually keep my axle flush with the sides of my board. I think having slightly wider trucks would prevent the tippy board thing that happens and you end up doing a wallride side grind thing instead of getting up on top of the curb. Feel free to disregard my information too haha. But hopefully you don’t and make some more videos about tinkering with your setup. I really enjoy them.
I skate a lot of wide decks, the best way to grip them in my opinion is to rip the griptape apart (longitudinally) right in the middle and put it on, the gap you're gonna create in the middle will look great (looks like a crack or something) and you're never gonna notice the difference under your feet! P.S. : some kinds of grips do not rip apart, they're kinda stiff, in that case just cut it in the middle with a scissor.
I went with a big gap in the middle to give it that old school 80s look. Also helped that the board I bought has a huge topside graphic to fill out the space. I love tearing & cutting up the grip for larger decks, all mine have things like funky disjointed grip patterns & spray paint jobs (go super easy on applying spray paint, too much kills the grippiness). My popsicles I like clean...but any shaped or larger deck I love go to ham on. Let me rephrase that: if you're not customizing the grip jobs on your boards, you're doing it wrong!
My friend bought me a 10in Punk Stix board and I was sweet I'm gonna learn Slappys! Bought a set of Indy 215s and sold them a couple days later. I feel like they dive to much for me. Mind you this is after trying different bushing combos. I weigh 290lbs so I always gotta switch out the bushings for harder ones. So I searched high and low to find a set of 10in Land yachts Polar Bear trucks 180mm, and I'm much happier. They are a shorter geomatry truck so I think that helps me be more stable. Haven't slappy'd them yet but I LOVE them on transition with some 98a Khiro bushings. Ive blown out sooooooo many bushings it's annoying. My back up bushings are 98a Shorty Doh Doh White's and they have worked well for me also.
I ride the same black Khiro bushings and the white DohDoh's , the 10-in polar bears trucks, those aren't a reverse kingpin are they? Looking for the standard kingpin style truck cuz I thought they stopped making them and I'm looking for a set now.
@@joshuadugan1931 haven't ridden thunders in about 22 years but I will definitely look into it cuz they didn't and never have made a super wide truck. Thanks
@@joshuadugan1931 unless they're remaking those 10-in polar bears the only reason I said reverse kingpin is because you said land yachts. I know that they quit making the 10-in polar bear two or three years ago cuz I contacted the company, not land yachts ,and they said they were discontinued and that was pre COVID.
@@waynecartwright9478 I was shocked at how slow my 52mm/100As are compared to my 56mm/92A clouds. I had even just bought new Bronson bearings to get them more rideable. But still, so slow and they totally die on a crusty spot. How do all these street guys ride these?
Ive seen all your episodes and since Im a curb skater this one is my favorite. ive been doing slappies since the late 80's but Im always willing to learn and try something new or different. i usually skate 56mm OJ's but after watching your video im gonna scale down on your advice and try 54mm tomorrow and see how a smaller wheel works to lock in better. thanks for the rad videos. love your channel. keep em coming Dowdy.
I wanted 215s so bad I planned a whole setup around them just so I could pick up a set. Slappies and slappies only. I've got my own little curb crusher now. Nice 10" deck, Indy 215s, some nice soft wheels...
Oh my God! Look at that curb -- perfectly angled and the just the right height! Truly reference quality. I wish I had these types of curbs nearby me ;( East Coast sucks lol
good to see you getting a sponsor dude! subscribed to you after your nike SB video which was fucking fantastic. love to see independent creators passionate about what they do sticking it to companies that want to exploit and use us for their own good. keep up the good work!
Me to my wife: "No. Sweety, I NEED another setup for slappies." Wife: "You have a few already" Me to my wife: It's different from the others." Me to myself: "Better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission"
I had slappys down on my 169s on my street setup. but i temporarily had to put smaller wheels on my transition setup wich has 215s. I could not slappy on it at all with 60mm wheels. Now that it has 53mm wheels on it and still the 1/4" risers there is so much space for the trucks to move and ive never been able to slappy that easily. Straight sqare curbs that are 9" high. Just roll right on it. Ever at slow speed.
I just started doing these on a 1-inch curb near my old highschool. They're tonnes of fun, the sound of your trucks against the concrete has to be the best noise in the world. Love the shape of that deck, by the way! Keep up the awesome work
I got a Madness 10" deck last week and a set of 215s. I found the trucks super squirrely so I switched out the bushings for Hard Bones. Really like them now. It was originally to be just a cruiser board but gonna hit a few pools with I think. After this video a slappy session is inevitable. Not too stoked on the advertising but understand it's great for you and your channel so if it helps the sick content to keep flowing I'll take it. Good for you man!
siiiick! this is a really cool setup! if you dont mind having a gap in the middle, you can rip the grip down the middle so it can go all the way to the edges.
I got a krooked zip zogger which is really short and fat (10.75×30) and I got a little creative with the grip by cutting it in a couple zigzag patterns (one down the middle and one straight across in front of the rear trucks.) It was a bit tricky to lay it down and line it up right but I worked it out. Even managed to get some stickers in the gaps
If grip tape isn’t wide enough I like to cut it or tear it down the middle then leave a small gap down the middle of the board so rails of the board have grip.
Yup, was looking for this comment. Also, don't use the edge you cut in the middle of the board. Use the factory cut straight edge - spin it so the outer edges are now on the centre line. Looks perfect, especially with some offset so you don't have to get it 100% in the middle.
You should jb weld some grind kings on those trucks (or any inverted kingpin) because if you're mainly doing grinds on that board the trucks will break but on the kingpin so that the kingpin will keep falling off unless you have some sort of inverted kingpin
Indy 215s don't come with the inverted kingpin but they do offer inverted kingpin baseplates separately which I'm sure the 215 hangers should fit right on
Great screws are spax multi purpose construction screws #8x 5/8” at Home Depot they sell them great screws they have teeth on them so once they’re on they won’t break or unscrew
I did a screen record at 8:10 and watched it frame by frame. I guess it’s about leading with the feet and hopping your weight off the deck a bit while the wheels contact, and then locking in. They sort of know where to go from what I saw.
Nice one, I have been riding the 215s , only problem (INDY!), is the crazy slop in the pivot cup and shitty bushings. Wth is it with quality control lately? Have fun Zach!
I bought a squaretail 10" Vision 'Old Ghosts' deck with modern concave just for my 215s. I bring it up because my pursuit of finding a deck that fits 215s took awhile. A lot of larger, shaped decks often taper in & around the truck area and I'm not a fan of the hot rod look (trucks & wheels sticking out from underneath), so finding a board in the 10" range that actually fits 215s is a little more difficult. I will probably just cut my own deck for my next curb crusher, as that seems to be the best option.
@@hksolventless9260 Keep an eye out for a Black Label Lucero Racing Stripe or Cross 10". They have very little taper toward the back and great with Indy 215's.
That shape is crazy but sick at the same time 🤣 also tried to support and followed the Skillshare link, but not sure it'll let me do a few trial since I've had a membership account before 😅😂
Loving the looks of that deck. I’m an OG skater from the late 80’s, so big decks just feel right. Does Dom have a site? Couldn’t find one searching. I’d love to get a hold of one of his beauties. Thanks for sharing Zack!
@@ZackDowdy i guess you can use it for that, like a wheelbase modifier. and oldschool truck patterns with holes further apart tend to lock your baseplate down better, less swimming around.
im an average size guy.165 5 10 .i have been skating since 86 and i have never broke a bearing like you mention.even cheap reds get cleaned. i keep hearing people saying they blow out bearings and this and that .i have to wonder if its because you are using cheap bearings.if not i think its because america doesnt make our own stuff anymore even indys are made in china now. china doesnt make anything that isnt cheap
Congrats! Also, for sure make those videos on putting on rails and how you set up your trucks. Suoer interested in that! Another topic could be bombing hills? I saw you bombed a hill on your trip with Al. Maybe some tips on that, maybe on powersliding and keeping balance would be cool. Have a good weekend!
I gotta disagree with your idea for the best setup. I know it’s all personal preference, but if you’re looking to make slappies easier I think there are two essentials.
1: a nose. The nose of your board is the first thing that contacts the curb and starts guiding you up it. That doesn’t mean you can do them without a nose, it’s just a lot harder. You also don’t need a lot of nose. Just enough that when you ride your board into the curb at a 45 degree angle, your nose touches the curb first instead of your wheels.
2: wheels. Wheels are a little tough because there are two different wheels that help with different things. Rounded wheels help you get into the slappy a little better, but squared wheels (conicals) help you stay locked in better. Sometimes you can find asymmetrical wheels that have both shapes. Spitfire lock ins are probably the best example I can think of. Oj mini combos would be great to, but you’d have to ride them inside out so that the conical side was facing inside the trucks and the rounded side was facing out. I also think that bigger wheels lock in better too. I find that small ones slip out sometimes on curbs that are really rounded from wear.
Anyway, the main thing I disagreed with is you saying that smaller wheels are better. I think 55s are best. That being said, you might be into something with those trucks being wider than your board. I usually keep my axle flush with the sides of my board. I think having slightly wider trucks would prevent the tippy board thing that happens and you end up doing a wallride side grind thing instead of getting up on top of the curb.
Feel free to disregard my information too haha. But hopefully you don’t and make some more videos about tinkering with your setup. I really enjoy them.
Stoked on this! And congrats on the sponsor, big dawg!
What are you doing here Matt?! 😆 you love Zack too i guess:)
@@Gamling1888 Nothing but love for Zack and what he does!
I skate a lot of wide decks, the best way to grip them in my opinion is to rip the griptape apart (longitudinally) right in the middle and put it on, the gap you're gonna create in the middle will look great (looks like a crack or something) and you're never gonna notice the difference under your feet!
P.S. : some kinds of grips do not rip apart, they're kinda stiff, in that case just cut it in the middle with a scissor.
Solid tip!!
I went with a big gap in the middle to give it that old school 80s look. Also helped that the board I bought has a huge topside graphic to fill out the space. I love tearing & cutting up the grip for larger decks, all mine have things like funky disjointed grip patterns & spray paint jobs (go super easy on applying spray paint, too much kills the grippiness). My popsicles I like clean...but any shaped or larger deck I love go to ham on. Let me rephrase that: if you're not customizing the grip jobs on your boards, you're doing it wrong!
Dude… what a killer fucking tip, I’ve been driving myself crazy trying to figure this out! I knew their had to be a simple fix. You da man.
@@ravenvision222 I'm glad it did help you!
Dowdy's on Skillshare now-- my man's made it!
Glad to see you're moving forward :)
That’s my actual setup for bowl riding. 10 inches wide board, Indy 215 and a little bigger wheels 58mm. Old School! Like your Dad.🤙🏾
My friend bought me a 10in Punk Stix board and I was sweet I'm gonna learn Slappys!
Bought a set of Indy 215s and sold them a couple days later. I feel like they dive to much for me. Mind you this is after trying different bushing combos. I weigh 290lbs so I always gotta switch out the bushings for harder ones.
So I searched high and low to find a set of 10in Land yachts Polar Bear trucks 180mm, and I'm much happier. They are a shorter geomatry truck so I think that helps me be more stable. Haven't slappy'd them yet but I LOVE them on transition with some 98a Khiro bushings. Ive blown out sooooooo many bushings it's annoying. My back up bushings are 98a Shorty Doh Doh White's and they have worked well for me also.
Ahh the bushing dilemma is real.
I ride the same black Khiro bushings and the white DohDoh's , the 10-in polar bears trucks, those aren't a reverse kingpin are they? Looking for the standard kingpin style truck cuz I thought they stopped making them and I'm looking for a set now.
@@waynecartwright9478 10in polar bears are a standard truck. I would also say try some new Thunder 181s
@@joshuadugan1931 haven't ridden thunders in about 22 years but I will definitely look into it cuz they didn't and never have made a super wide truck. Thanks
@@joshuadugan1931 unless they're remaking those 10-in polar bears the only reason I said reverse kingpin is because you said land yachts. I know that they quit making the 10-in polar bear two or three years ago cuz I contacted the company, not land yachts ,and they said they were discontinued and that was pre COVID.
Thunder 161, hosoi deck, 60 mm wheels is my slappy/cruiser setup. I love big trucks
How are 60mm for slappies ?
@@stuartbrown3229 he is right about less space and have tried 54s tablet which open up the trucks. But it works, best for me is 97-99 duro.
The big wheel helps with crusty street and speed for slashing in. But if it’s a clean stop you should be good going smaller.
I agree 60 mm is where its at 53mm wheels are way too slow and borderline gimmicks as all small wheels are.....sounds like a killer setup you have
@@waynecartwright9478 I was shocked at how slow my 52mm/100As are compared to my 56mm/92A clouds. I had even just bought new Bronson bearings to get them more rideable. But still, so slow and they totally die on a crusty spot. How do all these street guys ride these?
215's with 55mm Mini Super Juice for the win for me! Damn that sea rat looks sick!
Geeze that yacht is a monster! Looks like a ton of fun tho! Congrats on the sponsored video Dowdy!!
The extra holes in the truck is not for changing wheelbase. Those are for boards with the old hole pattern that was standard until early 1993
Ive seen all your episodes and since Im a curb skater this one is my favorite. ive been doing slappies since the late 80's but Im always willing to learn and try something new or different. i usually skate 56mm OJ's but after watching your video im gonna scale down on your advice and try 54mm tomorrow and see how a smaller wheel works to lock in better. thanks for the rad videos. love your channel. keep em coming Dowdy.
Thanks Emil, I hope the smaller wheels work out!!
What up E?
@@thorgoodlife1865 haha..Whats up amigo!!
me too have you ever broke a bearing doing slappys?
My 10x30 moose deck, Indy 159s, OJ team riders 95a.... the old ways from the old days😎👌🔥🍻
I wanted 215s so bad I planned a whole setup around them just so I could pick up a set. Slappies and slappies only. I've got my own little curb crusher now. Nice 10" deck, Indy 215s, some nice soft wheels...
What size of wheels
Oh my God! Look at that curb -- perfectly angled and the just the right height! Truly reference quality. I wish I had these types of curbs nearby me ;( East Coast sucks lol
Snazzy video! The extra holes are for boards with an old school bolt pattern.
Man! I love that sound of trucks grinding on concrete. It will never get old.
good to see you getting a sponsor dude! subscribed to you after your nike SB video which was fucking fantastic. love to see independent creators passionate about what they do sticking it to companies that want to exploit and use us for their own good. keep up the good work!
Me to my wife: "No. Sweety, I NEED another setup for slappies."
Wife: "You have a few already"
Me to my wife: It's different from the others."
Me to myself: "Better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission"
One thing you can do with the grip is put it on 90°. It'll end up being 4 seperate pieces, but not too hard to line up.
Rad setup. Just an FYI though, the different mounting holes on the trucks are for new and old school bolt patterns not wheelbase options
I had slappys down on my 169s on my street setup. but i temporarily had to put smaller wheels on my transition setup wich has 215s. I could not slappy on it at all with 60mm wheels. Now that it has 53mm wheels on it and still the 1/4" risers there is so much space for the trucks to move and ive never been able to slappy that easily.
Straight sqare curbs that are 9" high. Just roll right on it. Ever at slow speed.
I just started doing these on a 1-inch curb near my old highschool. They're tonnes of fun, the sound of your trucks against the concrete has to be the best noise in the world. Love the shape of that deck, by the way! Keep up the awesome work
it really is.im so glad nobody uses pvc for coping like the 80s anymore.
Nice I really want to learn slappy grinds, thanks for the video.
Dude 215s look so amazing, I always thought they had the best Silhouette but never had any. I’d need a gonz beemer lol sick slapz 🤘🏽
It's a whole lot of truck for sure!!
Hell Yeass Dowdy!! getting them frontside slappys on lock!
It's a game changer, I never could frontside slappy very well now it's the only slappy I want to do haha
Yess finally dowdy is getting sponsors this is something you really deserve man❤️
I appreciate you!
Cool to see you shredding some of my wheels! 🙌
Love your wheels!
I got a Madness 10" deck last week and a set of 215s. I found the trucks super squirrely so I switched out the bushings for Hard Bones. Really like them now. It was originally to be just a cruiser board but gonna hit a few pools with I think. After this video a slappy session is inevitable.
Not too stoked on the advertising but understand it's great for you and your channel so if it helps the sick content to keep flowing I'll take it. Good for you man!
Another killer video! Pig decks are my ....! Next DIY video is a slappy curb with a hump in the middle. Congrats on the marriage brother! 👊🔥🤘
Jessup 11' grip tape for the big boys...always!
yoooo love me a fresh upload before the weekend kicks off. Grats on a sponsor!
Mob and jessup (my go-to's) sell 11in grip
siiiick! this is a really cool setup! if you dont mind having a gap in the middle, you can rip the grip down the middle so it can go all the way to the edges.
Good idea!
the best skate UA-camr 🙏
Much love!!
Im rockin 9.25 indy 169s and oj keyframes its my favorite setup ive had
I got a krooked zip zogger which is really short and fat (10.75×30) and I got a little creative with the grip by cutting it in a couple zigzag patterns (one down the middle and one straight across in front of the rear trucks.) It was a bit tricky to lay it down and line it up right but I worked it out. Even managed to get some stickers in the gaps
take it to the bowl brother... Nice setup
Dude is high as hell! Lmao
Big trucks small wheels , love it
If grip tape isn’t wide enough I like to cut it or tear it down the middle then leave a small gap down the middle of the board so rails of the board have grip.
Yup, was looking for this comment. Also, don't use the edge you cut in the middle of the board. Use the factory cut straight edge - spin it so the outer edges are now on the centre line. Looks perfect, especially with some offset so you don't have to get it 100% in the middle.
Oust bearings have a good variety for different styles
just cut the grip tape in half lengthways. Fit it with a gap on the board to make up the width.
Zip Zogger 💥
215s are serious trucks for serious grinds. You get bigger carve grinds out of them as well, just more truck to slide across on your way in and out.
0:28 you said "slappy skatebirrrd" 😆
You should jb weld some grind kings on those trucks (or any inverted kingpin)
because if you're mainly doing grinds on that board
the trucks will break but on the kingpin so that the kingpin will keep falling off
unless you have some sort of inverted kingpin
Indy 215s don't come with the inverted kingpin but they do offer inverted kingpin baseplates separately which I'm sure the 215 hangers should fit right on
Great screws are spax multi purpose construction screws #8x 5/8” at Home Depot they sell them great screws they have teeth on them so once they’re on they won’t break or unscrew
They always come in 50 screws 20 bucks great screws
Now I can learn more Slappy Grinds! The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/zackdowdy07211
I did a screen record at 8:10 and watched it frame by frame. I guess it’s about leading with the feet and hopping your weight off the deck a bit while the wheels contact, and then locking in. They sort of know where to go from what I saw.
Nice one, I have been riding the 215s , only problem (INDY!), is the crazy slop in the pivot cup and shitty bushings. Wth is it with quality control lately?
Have fun Zach!
I cut my grip down the middle so i have grip on the sides where i want it and gives a sick racing stripe down the middle
Slappy, oh yeah!
I bought a squaretail 10" Vision 'Old Ghosts' deck with modern concave just for my 215s. I bring it up because my pursuit of finding a deck that fits 215s took awhile. A lot of larger, shaped decks often taper in & around the truck area and I'm not a fan of the hot rod look (trucks & wheels sticking out from underneath), so finding a board in the 10" range that actually fits 215s is a little more difficult. I will probably just cut my own deck for my next curb crusher, as that seems to be the best option.
Heroin skateboards makes a lot of 10's with a decent variety of shapes that actually skate well. I got the big egg 10 on 215s and it's a fun set up
@@hksolventless9260 Keep an eye out for a Black Label Lucero Racing Stripe or Cross 10". They have very little taper toward the back and great with Indy 215's.
No doubt the old ghosts John Grigley deck......and what happens next?
That shape is crazy but sick at the same time 🤣 also tried to support and followed the Skillshare link, but not sure it'll let me do a few trial since I've had a membership account before 😅😂
Nice setup and sick skating but please sand the grip down (especially on that right side 😂)
New sub! Keep shreddin and motivating man 🤜🏼🤛🏼🖤
WHATS THE DURO ON THE WHEEL? NEED TO KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AS WELL.
Nice to see some curb surfing action 🤙
I had so much fun!! Gotta make it a weekly routine now.
215’s are so sick! I wanna get a pair but im scared ill like them too much and only start skating wider boards and then lose all my tech tricks
Loving the looks of that deck. I’m an OG skater from the late 80’s, so big decks just feel right. Does Dom have a site? Couldn’t find one searching. I’d love to get a hold of one of his beauties. Thanks for sharing Zack!
He doesn't just the instagram Searat Skateboards
I wonder what the wheelbase is on that deck?
Sea rat boards for the win! 💯
Any suggestions for production decks that are similar? I'm struggling to find non-custom 10" wide decks for a slappy setup.
try heroin skateboards they do a curb crusher 10.25
I really love your house it's so beautiful and simpe
i've always wanted a pair of indy 215..
Does risers matter?
adjustable wheelbase on a truck? that’s not possible it’s for oldschool truck holes, further apart. only on reissues nowadays
Gotta re-drill new holes for sure.
@@ZackDowdy i guess you can use it for that, like a wheelbase modifier. and oldschool truck patterns with holes further apart tend to lock your baseplate down better, less swimming around.
Love a slappy, just been getting into them on 139s, gonna try bigger trucks. like, subscribe, 215s incoming......
"hello you beautiful people"
You must be a Blake Samson fan
red curbs are the best
im an average size guy.165 5 10 .i have been skating since 86 and i have never broke a bearing like you mention.even cheap reds get cleaned. i keep hearing people saying they blow out bearings and this and that .i have to wonder if its because you are using cheap bearings.if not i think its because america doesnt make our own stuff anymore even indys are made in china now. china doesnt make anything that isnt cheap
Congrats! Also, for sure make those videos on putting on rails and how you set up your trucks. Suoer interested in that!
Another topic could be bombing hills? I saw you bombed a hill on your trip with Al. Maybe some tips on that, maybe on powersliding and keeping balance would be cool. Have a good weekend!
That's a good idea!
No lance or Lucero references. ??? 🤷🏻♂️
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤟🏼👊🏼😎✌🏼
Sea Rat curb dawgs
Sea Rat rules! An you butchered that grip tape! 😅👍🏻
dude, no nose? need a nose for slappy crooks!
This guy does not know how to grip a big board
That grip job was an actual crime😂
thats the worst i have seen
People in dislikes can’t skate curbs