Physics, science, math never change. That's why we don't do paid advertising. But the other thing never changes, car salesmen. So I see the reason for speculation. When I pay somone to say Dream Mat is the best, It time to worry.
@@PartridgeFamilyProspecting you trust that dude? He once argued with me that a plastic scoop is just as good to pan with as a super sluice because it all comes down to how skilled he thinks he is. Dudes an absolute chode
Before I drop a dime, I need to make sure that this company is not just “Non-woke”..But “Anti-Woke”.. Bathrooms and Cakes were sure a red flag, but that was almost forgivable.. however..Ever since rainbows went after The Children, well… Now you gotta clarify as Rainbows today Mean Satan..
I just bought their 6x16 mini and micro mats with the 24” sluice box. Small, easy to conceal in a backpack, easy to take to any spot and run a lot more test material than panning out a 5 gal bucket in every spot. I can do 50x more prospecting in the same amount of time now.
I recognice two of the other mats. I keep seeing switching over to dream mat videos all over this community. I have to say I'm going to get some when I'm ready to go prospect in Alaska for my first ever prospecting trip ever. I love this sluice mat test video thanks
I just ran some pay dirt through my dream mat , I’m really impressed how it did certainly catch the fine along with the bigger pieces, I ran the water really fast as well, checked the tailings on a miller table and didn’t find anything, this thing works
Cara, você provou tudo !!!!! Sou daqui do Brasil, eu ví esse seu vídeo a alguns anos atrás e eu mesmo fabriquei esse carpete frezado em uma borracha; tudo no grau de inclinação certa, tamanhos e distâncias. E deu certo mesmo !!!! Parabéns meu amigo, você é um Gênio !!!! Obrigado pelo esclarecimento !
That's a great test one of the best of ever seen made a believer out of me I bought the dream matte for my gold cube and I'm ready to install it now that I've seen this test I gotta get me a sluice Box a regular river sluice with your mats in it thank you great test love the competition love seeing that gold migrate even better love seeing those vials at the end and yours was empty amazing great job wonderful invention your time was well spent developing this thanks a ton
Thanks for directing me to the video with the vials actually showing the results.I think the best way to prove your product is by public competition. You should have ran something like this long time ago. Maybe you did and I just didn't know it. I guess I better be ordering some.
I have honestly been avoiding the whole dream mat idea maybe because I am bias or I just dont know what im doing, but I gotta say this was an impressive comparison! Thank you for sharing - I just shared this video on some of my social media platforms. Subscribed! ✌
This test demonstration is not entirely fair. because the same water flow was used over 4 mats that all require a different volume of water. The GoldHog mats use about a 1/3 less water then the Dream mat...Also those mats ONLY work according to the ground being tested, water volume, sluice angle, sluice width, qty of heavy sands, size and shape of gold, size and shape of black sands, clay content...etc. That is WHY Doc at Gold Hog says to match your mat and mining equipment to meet the soil conditions
@@bonks4395 100% agree. I've seen dream mat in action... there is a reason they are headed down stream. tested 5'' dredge tailings with this matting and got 100-200 colors per pan. on arkansas. when someone constantly tells you they are the best, its clearly a lie.. that goes for every trade.
@@bonks4395 gold hog is also a salesman and has different mats for everything so you keep buying. I don't like how they keep their comments turned off. as for dream mat it looks good but I haven't tested it myself yet.
After all these years, I just ordered a dream mat to equip an old sluice. This video is cool, but it's Big Foot that convinced me!"😅😅 Cant wait to give it a go!!
Just want to say David , I bought 2 of you vortex mats and haven't used them but but the little pocket sluice and the 8 in mini mat are amazing. Been catching very fine gold and so much better than all the panning . I have ordered a commercial mat and looking forward to see how well it does . I'll keep you posted , thank you for your hard work .
i have updated my Cube with Micro mat, Cape D mat and Mini mat at the bottom and just love it - i have videos of my home wash plant with gold cube and dream mat working - no better matt out there for sure- thanks Dream Mat!!
Loved the video !!! And i also love all the nay sayers here. First I am confident every comenter here is a weekend warrior wannabe just like myself. Is your test here flawed ? Yes it very much flawed. But so is everybody elses on there you tube channel. Every mat has its purpose but your mat seems to be the best " every circumstance " mat. Gold hog and i like doc makes some very good products. Only thing i dislike about his mats is they are to specific . You need to many mats to do a complete job. Next is almost every test I see is with controlled material. Problem here is the material is preped to how the manufacturer wants it to prove his value. Any way you get the idea. So for me I look at logical things. I talk to and see lots set ups. By far the most mats I see in use are the dream mats. By far the most replicated mat I see are dream mats. And by word of mouth recommendations is the dream mat. All that science you talk about means nothing to me or any of these other wanba be. Just set your equipment and test test test. After all that is exactly how you perfected your mat. Thx for reading my rant lol
Your best mat, best flow angle, durt whatever. Run it. Then jerk out your mat put dream mat in it, run it the same. Gaurantee it will kick its a55. There's my rant.
I would love to see this test being performed with the mats preloaded with black sands and let to clean out for a few mins. Anything deep enough can catch gold if it's pure, but if it just loads up with sand you just catch whatever was put in first. I am sure the Dream Mat would do great in such a test and would like to see it.
What happends with black sand in the dream mat is that the pockets do fill up with pebbles and slack sand but gold gets in under it and stays. The more gold that gets in the more black sand gets removed. The pockets stay active and are always swirling around keeping that non gold moving and working it out. If a small piece of gold does move down it will find another pocket to get trapped in. The dream mat is by far the most effective mat on the market! I use them all the time. I won't go back to the old way.
@@waynelacroix8870 I know it is, and I know that is what will happen but I'd like to see it in a video. My silicone mats are similar to dream mats but I designed mine to have smaller pockets and vortexes at the top and progressively larger down the mat. Then I covered the top section in fine and medium mesh so the upper section self classifies to avoid the larger pebbles filling the tiny pockets. So far it has worked wonders.
This test is useless. First, my bucket can also catch all the gold if that's all I'm running. Second, each mat runs at a different water flow, and it's clear the flow was altered to favor the dreamer Gucci mat. And third, my miners moss and expanded metal catches far more gold at varying water flows and we all know water flow is never a constant. Throw in a shovel or bucket of pay and watch the surge through the sluice. Gucci mat is not for production, but as a hobby mat in a hobby sluice where the pay is carefully metered. I'll never buy any Gucci mat product.
Well Done Mate all my life I thought unicorns and fairy's where fairytales. Now over the last 4years using every Dream Mat I now know That They Exist :) You Took Over The World in a few years with word of mouth and excellent/Bess Gold Recovery!!! Congratulations Mate!!! Only issue I have I can't do a spec. Count now not cant count over 100 lol :) ❤🇭🇲👍👏👌😁
Great mat just have to clean out more often when in high garnet areas the holding cells get full after a couple buckets but great for catching those fines!
So I have a gold buddy sluice that has the aluminum riffles over the mat. If I bought one of these mats should I leave it off and just glue the DM to the box? I'm very new to gold sluicing and panning
The basic idea of your mats process...perpetually moving gold backwards and a downwards spiral.... All other designs move gold down the mat with waterflow and spins it in a horizontal rolling out the mat motion..basically all other mats perpetuate migration by design. The dream mat is the exact opposite....thats awesome..and defies gravity and migration...
now id like to see a test between the different sizes of mat with dirt material running through as well. compare the bare mat or having expanded metal over the top of the mat or riffles above the mat or both riffles and the expanded metal over the mat. or if a classifier screen in the sluice box over the mat is better keeping fine material only going through and how much space should be kept between the mat and classifier to get the water effect. also does it work with it below miners moss? would they clean out if it was the mat then miners moss then expanded metal and hungarian riffles in sections over the top? is that all unnecessary in a large sluice box?
This video was the turning point for me, amazing results from myself using in freezing temps run quicker than this + unclassified, with fine & nugs never going past the middle of the mat.
Another thing is I’d like to see the results of all matts if you increased water flow and increased angle. Apparently gold hog matts work better the faster the flow or the harder you run them.
Jesse showed me your original video, all I can say is your an excitable person. Lol I’m gettin ready to Dream Mat my Mini Max Ed convinced me after I seen his. 👍✌️
Everyone wants the best mat.... I am no different.... But I would love to see a dream mat take the clay and unclassified dirt I throw at my ( I will say the name) Gold Hog mat.... Bucket after bucket up to 2" material..... And I rarely ever have gold beyond the midpoint of the sluice.... I am sure Dream Mat works great..... Would love to see a real world shoveling the dirt with rocks test....
Hay fam. Do you still make that purple hexagon river mat? If so. Do it come in 8 wide by 36 long? I seen it once on Martin's paydirt review, but can't find it anywhere fam. I'm just loving your mats fam. It cool if you don't make them anymore fam. The 6 inch & the 8 inch working great for me. Gold squad out!!!
I have a five stack gold cube. I use the dream mat micro mat on my slick tray, then a saw tooth mat, two dream mat beach matts and a saw tooth at the bottom. I run at cape disappointment. My question is what got pump should I be running.
I know Rob on the saw tooth uses an 1100 but he relies on his elevation to cut him down to somewhere near 900 and I do 1100 on a three stack, 1000 on a 5 stack and about 900 when I go 7 stack. I do not know the dream mat volumes but is not the same at all and I highly recommend not using the together. The dream backs up at that low of volume.
@@iralawrence9311 thanks for the info ira. Think I'm going to switch back to all saw tooth. Just seems to to be a better fit for the beach. Let me know next time you make it to benson.
Bugger going to a convention like that.. I bet every single one of them old guys would tell you how to pan properly and no matter what you do it would be wrong to them.. they always seem to know best
Dream mat works on the same principle that's used in all mats... it just has higher capacity cavities. For a field sluice, that's not bad. I think the reason naysayers don't care for it, is 'cause they don't SEE as much gold, because the finer groove mats separate black sands better. I think the difference here, is are you PRPSPECTING, or are you focusing on recovery? If your goal is to extract gold in-process, then stick with groove mats. If your goal is to gather the richest CONCENTRATES, then Dream Mat is the way to go. If you're working a location for a long period of time, and it's not easily accessed by a vehicle, then you may not want to carry 6-10 buckets of concentrate for a couple miles. You'd be better off capturing what you can on-site, marking your tailings, and coming back another day.
What’s the angle of the setup? I saw 2 of gold hog’s flour gold mats running a coarse gold sample, two strip of talon or river hog would’ve probably caught everything or just even using a few pieces of yukon I think.
I live in North Wales UK and we have some of the finest gold on the planet. I've run many different mats before but I am really surprised at the fine capture rate that I get with the dream mat. It' needs a good angle and flow of water but it's awesome. Good job 👍
Great business! I bought an adventure sluice from them and I love it.! They personally emailed me to thank me and update on where it was and it was here in a few days with stickers and everything. I’m getting gold now! Way better than a pan. Not sure how it compares to other mining stuff but when I upgrade I’m definitely buying from them again! Nice people
Not really a fair test as you should well know. Traditional mat is not run like that. Different contours are used together to work properly. Not one kind of mat the whole length of sluice. Except that Keene Miracle Mat, that's run alone...so
It's one of the great things about the dream mat, you don't need anything else. You can often use it without classifying and just dump in material. As for the other mats, in this situation it seems reasonable, its just showing how long it takes to be pulled out of them.
Some observations, then questions: 1. The flow is the same for all. 2. The slope is the same for all. Question #1: Was the flow set best for the Dream Mat? 2. Was the slope set best for the Dream Mat? If so, then obviously, the competition would not do very well.
Mats been out for 3 years, 12k plus mats sold, not a single customer return. You have your head in the sand if you believe your box, your tech, has not been already tested & the results were the same as one of the 12k happy customers. Unless you got super box? Every month 100-200 more mats go out the door. 100% money back gaurantee. It's obvious, time for an upgrade!
@@TheDSP1970 head in the sand? Is that how you reply to someone you don't know? Your not worth the time and neither is the mat. I already have a mat better than yours, and was going to send you a piece free for testing, but you don't deserve to even see the mat.
Buddy, the mat has been sold all over the world & you are like #10000 on the claim my gold is finer & my dirt bad'r. So far, the mat has done fine. What could you have that the iron stones of Australia, the garnets of Alaska, the coastal black sands, the hemmite of Montana, the pyrite of brazil, on & on? Why does every one person think they are the rule. I'm not being rude. I'm being real.
This is a really cool test! Thank you for sharing. Very informative. It makes a persuasive case - within the limitations of the test. There are a few design flaws. First, your dream mat probably had the strongest VORTEX of all the mats due to its cyclonic design - at that particular water flow level (leading to superior centrifugal force, etc). Second, your dream mat may have had the best ANGLE of all of them. This may have led to your mat having superior retention in this test. I'm willing to bet if you re-ran the test with each mat having its ideal water flow and angle concurently (perhaps impossible but hear me out) - there would be far fewer losses on the other products. Your other competitors have run their own tests (available on UA-cam) and are getting 98% retention in some cases. The bottom line is all of those mats are incredible technologies and are world class - within their own particular ideal operating parameters. Know thy equipment. Again, an amazing test and it certainly sheds some light on the power of your design. Great job! : )
More angle & more flow just makes the others loose more gold. Any slower or flatter, the gold does not even come off the slick plate. There is no istance w/ the others, that more flow or angle help. Gravity & force, for every action there is a reaction.
Plus they market 98% or more. With test that are flawed. Never has any of them did a scientific test like this. Cause they have gold go down farther, thus proving it's not so. They have to rely on marketing. I'll rely on physics.
Don't forget about angle/pitch of sluice and water flow. You ran all 4 sluice boxes at the same flow and pitch!!! If tuned properly, I "know" much better results good be found with other mats. Wonder how many other people caught those details???🤔 Actually made yourself look bad by corrupting the results like that, no matter how good ur mat is, or isn't...
The dream mat will easily take more or less angle/flow than any of the other mats. And no lm not in any way associated with them, lm just an Australian prospector.
Dream Mat guy isn't acknowledging the proven quality of his competitors' overall SYSTEMS - and the experiences in the field of hundreds, if not thousands of prospectors getting as close to zero losses as is reasonably possible with production sluices and highbankers. Dream Mat is a great product, absolutely. But it's not the only great product. And it's not the only great SYSTEM. Those other companies would NOT be in business if thei individual parts of their systems were as weak as this demo tries to make them seem. And yes, Dream Mat is probably the best in the bunch when it comes to low flow, so of course this demo will paint that product in a favorable light. This test does not highlight the quality of the overall GH system. In other words - it's testing mats head to head versus SYSTEMS.
I know every Matt has a particular run angle and I know you're doing this test to show this method of processing material but the other manufacturers have made their design to run at a different angle than what you are running at that's not to say that you're not running with manufacturers design but I would like to say that this test of yours is kind of not made for other people's engineered specifications
We are dying for brave souls to give us thar best mats, angle, pitch. Or even send in a chunk of thar thingy and we will test to the spec. But so far no luck.
@@TheDSP1970 I ran your Matt in a sluice box at different angles and it loses fine gold all the time although it is an older model but you were still making the same claims back then too?
The gold hog, the fine gold is caught in thiner water. It also is wider 14 inching were the fine golds caught. I've tested my own gear. That's not accurate testing, and a little tricky
No doubt that your mats work well, but that looks like GH UR mat on the end. I don't think anyone using that brand relies upon UR as a primary capture mat. Would be nice to see the same test with Talon or Motherlode.
Great video, thank you for the side by side.. next time maybe put more emphasis on the gold's rate of travel down the mat. Your gold seems to majorily be in the first few cells, where as the gold hog has that beautiful shiny all the way down the mat.. and even in GH videos, the material he runs, his angles, and speed, the gold has traveled all the way down the mat, hence the different capture zones. As part our set up we have captured 1.5 grams out of tailings. Proof is in the pan my friend. Thank you for a great product.. look forward to more. Through this channel, gold rat sluice, and Vogus. You guys rock and make the winter fever go by..thank you
After hundreds of real world runs I will confidentially say dream may is the best mat on the market.
Chris does this guy have any relation to gold rat in Australia?
I'm glad you said that!! Needed someone I recognize and trust!!
Physics, science, math never change. That's why we don't do paid advertising.
But the other thing never changes, car salesmen. So I see the reason for speculation. When I pay somone to say Dream Mat is the best, It time to worry.
@@PartridgeFamilyProspecting you trust that dude? He once argued with me that a plastic scoop is just as good to pan with as a super sluice because it all comes down to how skilled he thinks he is. Dudes an absolute chode
Before I drop a dime, I need to make sure that this company is not just “Non-woke”..But “Anti-Woke”.. Bathrooms and Cakes were sure a red flag, but that was almost forgivable.. however..Ever since rainbows went after The Children, well… Now you gotta clarify as Rainbows today Mean Satan..
I just bought their 6x16 mini and micro mats with the 24” sluice box. Small, easy to conceal in a backpack, easy to take to any spot and run a lot more test material than panning out a 5 gal bucket in every spot. I can do 50x more prospecting in the same amount of time now.
I recognice two of the other mats. I keep seeing switching over to dream mat videos all over this community. I have to say I'm going to get some when I'm ready to go prospect in Alaska for my first ever prospecting trip ever. I love this sluice mat test video thanks
Just bought a dream mat...im in NE Vic AUSTRALIA and cant wait to get out there with it....thanks for this very informative video and comparison.
I just ran some pay dirt through my dream mat , I’m really impressed how it did certainly catch the fine along with the bigger pieces, I ran the water really fast as well, checked the tailings on a miller table and didn’t find anything, this thing works
I just bought a 8x35 mini sluice because of your video. AWSOME!
Cara, você provou tudo !!!!! Sou daqui do Brasil, eu ví esse seu vídeo a alguns anos atrás e eu mesmo fabriquei esse carpete frezado em uma borracha; tudo no grau de inclinação certa, tamanhos e distâncias. E deu certo mesmo !!!! Parabéns meu amigo, você é um Gênio !!!! Obrigado pelo esclarecimento !
Hola amigo sabes como puedo fabricarme esa alfombra de caucho ???!saludos
That's a great test one of the best of ever seen made a believer out of me I bought the dream matte for my gold cube and I'm ready to install it now that I've seen this test I gotta get me a sluice Box a regular river sluice with your mats in it thank you great test love the competition love seeing that gold migrate even better love seeing those vials at the end and yours was empty amazing great job wonderful invention your time was well spent developing this thanks a ton
I've got cube install videos on my playlist
Awesome results man i can't wait to get my dream matt and make a high banker
I bought a couple of mats to make a two stage high banker, can't wait to test them when the weather allows!
Thanks for directing me to the video with the vials actually showing the results.I think the best way to prove your product is by public competition. You should have ran something like this long time ago. Maybe you did and I just didn't know it. I guess I better be ordering some.
Thats incredible buddy. Thanks for sharing
Excellent mat man!! :) need to get one
I have honestly been avoiding the whole dream mat idea maybe because I am bias or I just dont know what im doing, but I gotta say this was an impressive comparison! Thank you for sharing - I just shared this video on some of my social media platforms. Subscribed! ✌
One bitten, twice shy! Ha ha
This test demonstration is not entirely fair. because the same water flow was used over 4 mats that all require a different volume of water. The GoldHog mats use about a 1/3 less water then the Dream mat...Also those mats ONLY work according to the ground being tested, water volume, sluice angle, sluice width, qty of heavy sands, size and shape of gold, size and shape of black sands, clay content...etc.
That is WHY Doc at Gold Hog says to match your mat and mining equipment to meet the soil conditions
@@bonks4395 100% agree. I've seen dream mat in action... there is a reason they are headed down stream. tested 5'' dredge tailings with this matting and got 100-200 colors per pan. on arkansas. when someone constantly tells you they are the best, its clearly a lie.. that goes for every trade.
@@bonks4395 gold hog is also a salesman and has different mats for everything so you keep buying. I don't like how they keep their comments turned off. as for dream mat it looks good but I haven't tested it myself yet.
Great test. Would love to see the test ran with gold and black sand. That would effect the turnout.
After all these years, I just ordered a dream mat to equip an old sluice. This video is cool, but it's Big Foot that convinced me!"😅😅 Cant wait to give it a go!!
Excellent explanation mate cheers
Just want to say David , I bought 2 of you vortex mats and haven't used them but but the little pocket sluice and the 8 in mini mat are amazing. Been catching very fine gold and so much better than all the panning . I have ordered a commercial mat and looking forward to see how well it does . I'll keep you posted , thank you for your hard work .
How has it held up for you?
i have updated my Cube with Micro mat, Cape D mat and Mini mat at the bottom and just love it - i have videos of my home wash plant with gold cube and dream mat working - no better matt out there for sure- thanks Dream Mat!!
Loved the video !!!
And i also love all the nay sayers here.
First I am confident every comenter here is a weekend warrior wannabe just like myself.
Is your test here flawed ? Yes it very much flawed. But so is everybody elses on there you tube channel. Every mat has its purpose but your mat seems to be the best " every circumstance " mat. Gold hog and i like doc makes some very good products. Only thing i dislike about his mats is they are to specific . You need to many mats to do a complete job.
Next is almost every test I see is with controlled material. Problem here is the material is preped to how the manufacturer wants it to prove his value.
Any way you get the idea. So for me I look at logical things. I talk to and see lots set ups. By far the most mats I see in use are the dream mats. By far the most replicated mat I see are dream mats. And by word of mouth recommendations is the dream mat.
All that science you talk about means nothing to me or any of these other wanba be. Just set your equipment and test test test. After all that is exactly how you perfected your mat.
Thx for reading my rant lol
Your best mat, best flow angle, durt whatever. Run it. Then jerk out your mat put dream mat in it, run it the same. Gaurantee it will kick its a55. There's my rant.
Nice Test love It 😎👍🍺💯🦅🇺🇸
I would love to see this test being performed with the mats preloaded with black sands and let to clean out for a few mins.
Anything deep enough can catch gold if it's pure, but if it just loads up with sand you just catch whatever was put in first.
I am sure the Dream Mat would do great in such a test and would like to see it.
What happends with black sand in the dream mat is that the pockets do fill up with pebbles and slack sand but gold gets in under it and stays. The more gold that gets in the more black sand gets removed. The pockets stay active and are always swirling around keeping that non gold moving and working it out. If a small piece of gold does move down it will find another pocket to get trapped in. The dream mat is by far the most effective mat on the market! I use them all the time. I won't go back to the old way.
Yeah, a real world test would be the litmus.
@@waynelacroix8870 I know it is, and I know that is what will happen but I'd like to see it in a video.
My silicone mats are similar to dream mats but I designed mine to have smaller pockets and vortexes at the top and progressively larger down the mat. Then I covered the top section in fine and medium mesh so the upper section self classifies to avoid the larger pebbles filling the tiny pockets. So far it has worked wonders.
This test is useless. First, my bucket can also catch all the gold if that's all I'm running. Second, each mat runs at a different water flow, and it's clear the flow was altered to favor the dreamer Gucci mat. And third, my miners moss and expanded metal catches far more gold at varying water flows and we all know water flow is never a constant. Throw in a shovel or bucket of pay and watch the surge through the sluice. Gucci mat is not for production, but as a hobby mat in a hobby sluice where the pay is carefully metered. I'll never buy any Gucci mat product.
David ...a fair and balanced test
What an awesome visual demonstration!!
Well Done Mate all my life I thought unicorns and fairy's where fairytales. Now over the last 4years using every Dream Mat I now know That They Exist :)
You Took Over The World in a few years with word of mouth and excellent/Bess Gold Recovery!!!
Congratulations Mate!!!
Only issue I have I can't do a spec. Count now not cant count over 100 lol :) ❤🇭🇲👍👏👌😁
Nice mats I think I'm going to get me some. They are a little pricey but could be worth it in the end.
All worth it
Great mat just have to clean out more often when in high garnet areas the holding cells get full after a couple buckets but great for catching those fines!
very nice mat , and great video , now i need one :) what happens with heavies ? black sand ? you need do test with real gravel with lot of black sand
So I have a gold buddy sluice that has the aluminum riffles over the mat. If I bought one of these mats should I leave it off and just glue the DM to the box?
I'm very new to gold sluicing and panning
I've been thinking about buying one of these matts vs gold hog Matt and this made the decision
The basic idea of your mats process...perpetually moving gold backwards and a downwards spiral....
All other designs move gold down the mat with waterflow and spins it in a horizontal rolling out the mat motion..basically all other mats perpetuate migration by design. The dream mat is the exact opposite....thats awesome..and defies gravity and migration...
Good video. Well done. 👍
Waiting for mine to be delivered. Cant wait to see how it performs with black sand and fine gold.
now id like to see a test between the different sizes of mat with dirt material running through as well. compare the bare mat or having expanded metal over the top of the mat or riffles above the mat or both riffles and the expanded metal over the mat. or if a classifier screen in the sluice box over the mat is better keeping fine material only going through and how much space should be kept between the mat and classifier to get the water effect. also does it work with it below miners moss? would they clean out if it was the mat then miners moss then expanded metal and hungarian riffles in sections over the top? is that all unnecessary in a large sluice box?
I would love one for my 10" x 4' sluice!
LOVE IT !!!
Man i gotta try that on my dredge/sluice!! That is such a difference!! Do you think it keeps as much as miners moss??
We have a dredge mat
@@TheDSP1970 id be very interested in checking one out on our channel! I'm planning on upgrading tactics soon!! Let's talk!
Can you run this test with the cells full of rocks and black sands ?
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This video was the turning point for me, amazing results from myself using in freezing temps run quicker than this + unclassified, with fine & nugs never going past the middle of the mat.
Thank for the compliment, I always get excited when testing confirms theory!
@@TheDSP1970 You going to include a link to purchase your mats?
I think the key point is vertical vs horizontal rotation of vortex, a vertical vortex will spit out were as a horizontal vortex is confined .
Another thing is I’d like to see the results of all matts if you increased water flow and increased angle. Apparently gold hog matts work better the faster the flow or the harder you run them.
Jesse showed me your original video, all I can say is your an excitable person. Lol
I’m gettin ready to Dream Mat my Mini Max Ed convinced me after I seen his. 👍✌️
Everyone wants the best mat.... I am no different.... But I would love to see a dream mat take the clay and unclassified dirt I throw at my ( I will say the name) Gold Hog mat.... Bucket after bucket up to 2" material..... And I rarely ever have gold beyond the midpoint of the sluice.... I am sure Dream Mat works great..... Would love to see a real world shoveling the dirt with rocks test....
Anyone know when the next Gold Show will be in Oregon??
Hay fam. Do you still make that purple hexagon river mat? If so. Do it come in 8 wide by 36 long? I seen it once on Martin's paydirt review, but can't find it anywhere fam. I'm just loving your mats fam. It cool if you don't make them anymore fam. The 6 inch & the 8 inch working great for me. Gold squad out!!!
I have a five stack gold cube. I use the dream mat micro mat on my slick tray, then a saw tooth mat, two dream mat beach matts and a saw tooth at the bottom. I run at cape disappointment. My question is what got pump should I be running.
I know Rob on the saw tooth uses an 1100 but he relies on his elevation to cut him down to somewhere near 900 and I do 1100 on a three stack, 1000 on a 5 stack and about 900 when I go 7 stack. I do not know the dream mat volumes but is not the same at all and I highly recommend not using the together. The dream backs up at that low of volume.
@@iralawrence9311 thanks for the info ira. Think I'm going to switch back to all saw tooth. Just seems to to be a better fit for the beach. Let me know next time you make it to benson.
Very Nice
Awesome demonstration mate
Bugger going to a convention like that.. I bet every single one of them old guys would tell you how to pan properly and no matter what you do it would be wrong to them.. they always seem to know best
Dream mat works on the same principle that's used in all mats... it just has higher capacity cavities. For a field sluice, that's not bad. I think the reason naysayers don't care for it, is 'cause they don't SEE as much gold, because the finer groove mats separate black sands better. I think the difference here, is are you PRPSPECTING, or are you focusing on recovery? If your goal is to extract gold in-process, then stick with groove mats. If your goal is to gather the richest CONCENTRATES, then Dream Mat is the way to go.
If you're working a location for a long period of time, and it's not easily accessed by a vehicle, then you may not want to carry 6-10 buckets of concentrate for a couple miles. You'd be better off capturing what you can on-site, marking your tailings, and coming back another day.
how fast should water be on a 12 inch one would it be double so 1200 GPH
That upward inflection cant get much higher.
What’s the angle of the setup? I saw 2 of gold hog’s flour gold mats running a coarse gold sample, two strip of talon or river hog would’ve probably caught everything or just even using a few pieces of yukon I think.
watch my BB's videos, you will understand more what's happening.
We ordered a 10"x36" mat today. Is it easy to cut to fit my 9" sluice?
It cuts, but need a sharp knife & good skill. Mats worth more than the box, but a new 10" box & sell the 9"
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Unfortunately that isn't an option. I guess I'll just figure it out. Or ruin it and go back to what I am using. Thanks for the response
Wonderful demonstration!..
I live in North Wales UK and we have some of the finest gold on the planet. I've run many different mats before but I am really surprised at the fine capture rate that I get with the dream mat. It' needs a good angle and flow of water but it's awesome. Good job 👍
sEEING IS BELIEVEING.
Nice product!
I'm sold!
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Great business! I bought an adventure sluice from them and I love it.! They personally emailed me to thank me and update on where it was and it was here in a few days with stickers and everything. I’m getting gold now! Way better than a pan. Not sure how it compares to other mining stuff but when I upgrade I’m definitely buying from them again! Nice people
I need to know how it does with flour gold from the beach.
how often should you clean out with dream mat? i am thinking as soon as the mat gets filled up right?
Less than the others, unless you fill it with gold
@@TheDSP1970 i hear ya brother.
Great mats. Well done.
Would like to test it wit our superfine "Rhinegold" (the Rhine is a big German river)
Cheers CR
Prospectorsdream@hotmail.com
I saw you do this at the show. Facts and data matter and the proof is in the pudding. I've used your mats for over a year now and I love them.
Good Product! Slow shipping and customer service.
Not really a fair test as you should well know. Traditional mat is not run like that. Different contours are used together to work properly. Not one kind of mat the whole length of sluice. Except that Keene Miracle Mat, that's run alone...so
It's one of the great things about the dream mat, you don't need anything else. You can often use it without classifying and just dump in material. As for the other mats, in this situation it seems reasonable, its just showing how long it takes to be pulled out of them.
which is better
The one that holds the gold the longest, if you loose your gold, this is bad
Now it would be nice if they make the miners pans with a few of the dream matt shaped in rings and on one side in the pan. "The Dream Pan"!!!!🤠
Some observations, then questions: 1. The flow is the same for all. 2. The slope is the same for all. Question #1: Was the flow set best for the Dream Mat? 2. Was the slope set best for the Dream Mat? If so, then obviously, the competition would not do very well.
Looks like it has potential. If you would like a challenge, head to the Yuba River and see how it handles illmenite
Mats been out for 3 years, 12k plus mats sold, not a single customer return. You have your head in the sand if you believe your box, your tech, has not been already tested & the results were the same as one of the 12k happy customers. Unless you got super box? Every month 100-200 more mats go out the door. 100% money back gaurantee. It's obvious, time for an upgrade!
@@TheDSP1970 head in the sand? Is that how you reply to someone you don't know? Your not worth the time and neither is the mat. I already have a mat better than yours, and was going to send you a piece free for testing, but you don't deserve to even see the mat.
Buddy, the mat has been sold all over the world & you are like #10000 on the claim my gold is finer & my dirt bad'r. So far, the mat has done fine. What could you have that the iron stones of Australia, the garnets of Alaska, the coastal black sands, the hemmite of Montana, the pyrite of brazil, on & on?
Why does every one person think they are the rule. I'm not being rude. I'm being real.
i see you are still a rabid squirrel. i went gold hog because you come off as a guy selling shamwows
You should put info like a website where we could buy these????
GOTA Have ah dream mat! yeah!!
best demo ever ! thx for sharring !
This is a really cool test! Thank you for sharing. Very informative. It makes a persuasive case - within the limitations of the test. There are a few design flaws. First, your dream mat probably had the strongest VORTEX of all the mats due to its cyclonic design - at that particular water flow level (leading to superior centrifugal force, etc). Second, your dream mat may have had the best ANGLE of all of them. This may have led to your mat having superior retention in this test. I'm willing to bet if you re-ran the test with each mat having its ideal water flow and angle concurently (perhaps impossible but hear me out) - there would be far fewer losses on the other products. Your other competitors have run their own tests (available on UA-cam) and are getting 98% retention in some cases. The bottom line is all of those mats are incredible technologies and are world class - within their own particular ideal operating parameters. Know thy equipment. Again, an amazing test and it certainly sheds some light on the power of your design. Great job! : )
More angle & more flow just makes the others loose more gold. Any slower or flatter, the gold does not even come off the slick plate. There is no istance w/ the others, that more flow or angle help. Gravity & force, for every action there is a reaction.
Plus they market 98% or more. With test that are flawed. Never has any of them did a scientific test like this. Cause they have gold go down farther, thus proving it's not so. They have to rely on marketing. I'll rely on physics.
My favorite mat in the HB ... ⛏🤠
Where can I get one for my gold cube ?
Now do the same test with heavy minerals mixed with the gold o( and throw in some clays lol!
Already did, ua-cam.com/video/lMhgb812bD0/v-deo.html
I had a look ! Bullshit test
Good test but I'm waiting the final test with the "sister" of the gold.. blacksand.
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wow where can i get that beast mode widebanker the big blue one ? :D
Do it all Paul in Canada. Adventures in prospecting FB page
@@TheDSP1970 thx for the quick answer 💪
@@TheDSP1970 seems that i can't find the correct FB page, can I maybe bother you for a link? 😁
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Where do I get one?
Prospectorsdream.com
Don't forget about angle/pitch of sluice and water flow. You ran all 4 sluice boxes at the same flow and pitch!!! If tuned properly, I "know" much better results good be found with other mats. Wonder how many other people caught those details???🤔 Actually made yourself look bad by corrupting the results like that, no matter how good ur mat is, or isn't...
The dream mat will easily take more or less angle/flow than any of the other mats. And no lm not in any way associated with them, lm just an Australian prospector.
Dream Mat guy isn't acknowledging the proven quality of his competitors' overall SYSTEMS - and the experiences in the field of hundreds, if not thousands of prospectors getting as close to zero losses as is reasonably possible with production sluices and highbankers. Dream Mat is a great product, absolutely. But it's not the only great product. And it's not the only great SYSTEM. Those other companies would NOT be in business if thei individual parts of their systems were as weak as this demo tries to make them seem. And yes, Dream Mat is probably the best in the bunch when it comes to low flow, so of course this demo will paint that product in a favorable light. This test does not highlight the quality of the overall GH system. In other words - it's testing mats head to head versus SYSTEMS.
I know every Matt has a particular run angle and I know you're doing this test to show this method of processing material but the other manufacturers have made their design to run at a different angle than what you are running at that's not to say that you're not running with manufacturers design but I would like to say that this test of yours is kind of not made for other people's engineered specifications
We are dying for brave souls to give us thar best mats, angle, pitch. Or even send in a chunk of thar thingy and we will test to the spec. But so far no luck.
@@TheDSP1970 I ran your Matt in a sluice box at different angles and it loses fine gold all the time although it is an older model but you were still making the same claims back then too?
I have a combo mat (little/big). It catches fly speck gold like I never have previously caught....
The gold hog, the fine gold is caught in thiner water. It also is wider 14 inching were the fine golds caught. I've tested my own gear. That's not accurate testing, and a little tricky
What if you made a Tesla Valve sort of one?
where can i buy it ??
PROSPECTORSDREAM.COM
No doubt that your mats work well, but that looks like GH UR mat on the end. I don't think anyone using that brand relies upon UR as a primary capture mat. Would be nice to see the same test with Talon or Motherlode.
Those test are coming soon, I will be testing All the hog mats
@@TheDSP1970 Please do that, it would be nice too see, fun to watch! 🇺🇸⛏
Great video, thank you for the side by side.. next time maybe put more emphasis on the gold's rate of travel down the mat. Your gold seems to majorily be in the first few cells, where as the gold hog has that beautiful shiny all the way down the mat.. and even in GH videos, the material he runs, his angles, and speed, the gold has traveled all the way down the mat, hence the different capture zones. As part our set up we have captured 1.5 grams out of tailings. Proof is in the pan my friend. Thank you for a great product.. look forward to more. Through this channel, gold rat sluice, and Vogus. You guys rock and make the winter fever go by..thank you
I think gh yukon matt with miners moss expanded metal and rifles against the dream would be the best that gh could possibly do against the dream
Downdraft and Razorback alternating would be a fair test. No miner's moss or expanded metal necessary.
Hi Dave. Looks good.
That's trickery
Well if I ever run into just gold to run through a sluice I'll pick some up. Get some long Beach sand and test it.
Iv seen it on Yukon gold n gold Bering sea
Where can I buy a mat?
Prospectorsdream.com
I've actually got a video somewhere were I drop an Oz of 100 mesh in my hog,
Trust the science it does not lie
I did not see that do it again lol
Интересная затея🤔
Смущает пару моментов, но лучше всё проверить практически.
Сделаю такой же перепроверю.
It's looks like it has a little less slope
I run this mat in my highbanker and my river sluice. I'll never use anything else. Ive never found gold in my tailings ever.
And thiis why I bought a Dream Mat Sluice.
Need better more controlled tests using different materials.
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