I HOPE THIS PINNED TO PEOPLE WILL STOP BEING DUMBASSES 🤦🏽♂️ The reason Sora got hit but didn’t take damage is because of Invincibility Frames(or IFrames for short). IFrames can happen sometimes when dodging at the last second, and sometimes even guarding. Think of it like Mario shrinking down after colliding with a enemy. After getting hit, there’s a few seconds of IFrames making Mario invincible a little bit. IFrames can function differently.
Awesome how Sora says "it's over" at the end of that trinity limit and ends the fight. You're truly skilled. I'm still fighting the absent silhouettes before I take on Roxas o lv1 CM, and I'm not nearly this good. Props
At about 1:34 it looks like he hit you. Is there an ability that makes it so that you don't take damage from some hits? (Not critisising, just curious)
DynamicGames99 It's probably due to how dodge roll and invincibility frames work. If you play Birth by Sleep and fight the Mysterious Figure as Ventus or Aqua, you can hear his blades hit you, but you won't take damage due to how invincibility frames work when doing dodge rolls and cartwheels. It's more apparent during the unversed challenge when you have to collect the orbs he has, even if you're cartwheeling/dodge rolling and take no damage, it still counts as a hit and you lose some orbs. I'm not sure if it works the same in KHII, but I wouldn't be surprised if it follows the same formula.
rsmouse31 You explained it very good. I didnt know about that unversed challenge but it describes the dodging system. It is almost the same in kh 2 and bbs. Sometimes you'll get the "hit animation" on sora's picture on the bottom right when you dodge very closely. According to his picture you get hit but you are still in the invincebility frame so you wont get any damage. It's the same in birth by sleep when you are hearing the "hit noises" while dodging with dodge roll, carthwheel or slide.
He probably spliced it poorly. And before you say " well what about the music". Well he could easily muted the in-game music. And replaced it with the same music manually so it seems ligit. But he did this poorly that's why you saw the hit animation and why you don't see the main cutscene. Though that's how I see it. I don't mean to be THAT guy, I just saw some vids about splicing.
how do you know when he counter attacks with the keyblade throwing attack? that's when he usually gets me.... that finishing blow in the fight was epic btw
He mostly uses this move when he enters his 3rd Phase. Just look at his HP bar in my video. He also uses this move when his revenge value is very high I think.
+BunyonFunyon I hate dodge slash. It is such a bad ability to equip. It takes too long to perform and it can kill you easy when it misses against bosses with low recovery time like Sephiroth or Terra.
Dodge Slash can kill you sometimes cause it takes a long time for the attack to dish out. And it would activate the RV of a boss even before finishers due to low recovery time. Trust me, I’ve experienced this.
Okay, I did some studying on the pattern Normal Phase Full string, one finisher (Combo Plus x2, Guard Breaker) Attack twice, block Block, Parry, or Reflect last hit Mystic dash the jumping attack Desperation Attack Max level Glide in circles When using 3x Keyblades Full string, two finishers (Guard Breaker, Explosion) Mystic dash away Is this correct? And is the strategy shown consistent enough to get a win on Roxas, or would you recommend something else for a higher level run without restrictions? Also, how do I know when he's gonna be doing the attack where he blinks to you and spins his keyblades? I myself am planning on just fully exploring the game and going all-out with whatever I can get without really going for any particular challenges.
Roxas's Ai can be fairly easily manipulated to only ever use the basic combo, the somersault, or the AOE attack by remaining within a certain distance from him. A lot of bosses in this game have stuff like that, which is why people use restrictions.
I recommend doing 2 finishes in one combo and Quick Run right after. But this is only viable in Roxas’ 1st phase BEFORE his DM. Cause after his DM, his attacks will have lasers and he has a different revenge value attack in his 2nd phase. Not even Quick Running would work for me. So in his 2nd phase, 2 combos, 1 finisher, and quick run. DO NOT USE 2 FINISHERS OR HE WILL PROBABLY DO HIS 2ND REVENGE VALUE ATTACK.
***** I could do a couple of versions but kingdom key only is not really a big restriction. it just makes the fight longer because I lose the combo boost ability from decisive pumpkin.
IFrames. It’s a thing that makes it look like you took damage but you didn’t. Technically it said No Damage run, not “get hit” run so technically it’s still no damage.
i mean, roxas voice was so cool and grown up in the original, but they just redubbed him, and let him with the same voice of ventus and roxas on 358/2 .-.
Imagine you know dont give a shit about skill in this game and end up fighting this boss with normal attack, no dodge roll no fly whatsoever, just walk jump and normal attack.
I just copy and paste the explanation from rsmouse21: "It's probably due to how dodge roll and invincibility frames work. If you play Birth by Sleep and fight the Mysterious Figure as Ventus or Aqua, you can hear his blades hit you, but you won't take damage due to how invincibility frames work when doing dodge rolls and cartwheels. It's more apparent during the unversed challenge when you have to collect the orbs he has, even if you're cartwheeling/dodge rolling and take no damage, it still counts as a hit and you lose some orbs." The same goes for KH2
+Christian Kinnel I am tired of explaining that. It happens when I dodge really close. The animation gets triggered when I am inside a hitbox and the invincible frame is about to end.
![Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD ReMIX - Sora vs. Roxas [1080p] Boss Fight](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/y4yQioUhk9E/mqdefault.jpg)
I HOPE THIS PINNED TO PEOPLE WILL STOP BEING DUMBASSES 🤦🏽♂️
The reason Sora got hit but didn’t take damage is because of Invincibility Frames(or IFrames for short). IFrames can happen sometimes when dodging at the last second, and sometimes even guarding. Think of it like Mario shrinking down after colliding with a enemy. After getting hit, there’s a few seconds of IFrames making Mario invincible a little bit. IFrames can function differently.
Best finisher ever! If this was an anime, then the final hit done by Sora to Roxas would have been something like this!
Awesome how Sora says "it's over" at the end of that trinity limit and ends the fight. You're truly skilled. I'm still fighting the absent silhouettes before I take on Roxas o lv1 CM, and I'm not nearly this good. Props
That combo finisher with the three keyblades when they barrage Roxas in the air as they warp in and out of space is pure gold.
WOW, that was amazing. Great job on learning this boss.
This is truly amazing you have earned a sub :D
You, my friend, have TALENT.
Wow at 4:30 Sora’s standing while flying bruh!
Thanks for doing this without spamming or cheesing it!!!
+Byran enshb
I could explain why but you didnt tell me when he hit me. This is a legit "no damge" boss fight.
At about 1:34 it looks like he hit you. Is there an ability that makes it so that you don't take damage from some hits? (Not critisising, just curious)
DynamicGames99 It's probably due to how dodge roll and invincibility frames work. If you play Birth by Sleep and fight the Mysterious Figure as Ventus or Aqua, you can hear his blades hit you, but you won't take damage due to how invincibility frames work when doing dodge rolls and cartwheels. It's more apparent during the unversed challenge when you have to collect the orbs he has, even if you're cartwheeling/dodge rolling and take no damage, it still counts as a hit and you lose some orbs.
I'm not sure if it works the same in KHII, but I wouldn't be surprised if it follows the same formula.
rsmouse31 You explained it very good. I didnt know about that unversed challenge but it describes the dodging system. It is almost the same in kh 2 and bbs. Sometimes you'll get the "hit animation" on sora's picture on the bottom right when you dodge very closely. According to his picture you get hit but you are still in the invincebility frame so you wont get any damage. It's the same in birth by sleep when you are hearing the "hit noises" while dodging with dodge roll, carthwheel or slide.
Naru-Izanagi .
He probably spliced it poorly. And before you say " well what about the music". Well he could easily muted the in-game music. And replaced it with the same music manually so it seems ligit. But he did this poorly that's why you saw the hit animation and why you don't see the main cutscene. Though that's how I see it. I don't mean to be THAT guy, I just saw some vids about splicing.
0:37 So glad i'm not the only one who blocks two times cause I keep thinking he's gonna combo
A bit of Ventus voice and a bit of Roxas voice in 358/2 Days ^^
But I like his voice in 2.5.
Anyway good fight, Naru ^^
Keep fighting !!! ;)
The ending reminded me of Ventus vs Vanitas. So good.
bm631 same Roxas is my fav
Please, Ventus vs Vanitas wishes it anywhere was near half as good a fight. Both in terms of gameplay design and dramatic subtext.
@@Netherman14TheHellblazer No, I mean visually homie haha. It felt as chaotic as the final button mashing confrontation in BBS during Ven v. Vanitas.
Perfect finish!
Ich respektiere dich für diese Leistung
Beautiful end
idk y i just like the spinning attack roxas does
in th beginning
👏👏👏Very Nice!
Why the heck did they use Ventus' voice for Roxas?
how do you know when he counter attacks with the keyblade throwing attack? that's when he usually gets me.... that finishing blow in the fight was epic btw
He mostly uses this move when he enters his 3rd Phase. Just look at his HP bar in my video. He also uses this move when his revenge value is very high I think.
It felt like Sora was fighting both Roxas AND Ventus
Literally just looping him and not letting him get to revenge value unless you have trinity limit, only hiccup was during the keyblade swap
I did this fight on Beginner and wondered how the fuck I would ever get past this fight on any harder difficulty without a mountainous grind.
How do you make yourself go back to level 1
in critical mode, there is an ability to stay at level 1
+Conner Moore Go back to level 1? I never had a single level up in 2.5 because of zero exp.
how many play through a did you have to do to get this video recorded? like how many times did you have to replay it because you got hit?
That finish was sexy
Holy shit...
song name pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
How do you know when roxas is going to use his DM?
When he goes to the center of the Station and begins hovering, that's when he's going to use his DM.
Good job dude. By the way why didnt you block his jumps during the last minutes of the fight? The lasers can hit you?
Angel Villarta Yeah the laser can hit you very easy.
Roxas spin around sora in the beginning of the fight
I have an idea, how about you use Dodge Slash sometime? It's a bitch when used it boss fights.
*in
+BunyonFunyon I hate dodge slash. It is such a bad ability to equip. It takes too long to perform and it can kill you easy when it misses against bosses with low recovery time like Sephiroth or Terra.
Dodge Slash can kill you sometimes cause it takes a long time for the attack to dish out. And it would activate the RV of a boss even before finishers due to low recovery time. Trust me, I’ve experienced this.
Imagine after you beat them they gave you a thumbs up lol.
Okay, I did some studying on the pattern
Normal Phase
Full string, one finisher (Combo Plus x2, Guard Breaker)
Attack twice, block
Block, Parry, or Reflect last hit
Mystic dash the jumping attack
Desperation Attack
Max level Glide in circles
When using 3x Keyblades
Full string, two finishers (Guard Breaker, Explosion)
Mystic dash away
Is this correct? And is the strategy shown consistent enough to get a win on Roxas, or would you recommend something else for a higher level run without restrictions? Also, how do I know when he's gonna be doing the attack where he blinks to you and spins his keyblades? I myself am planning on just fully exploring the game and going all-out with whatever I can get without really going for any particular challenges.
Roxas's Ai can be fairly easily manipulated to only ever use the basic combo, the somersault, or the AOE attack by remaining within a certain distance from him.
A lot of bosses in this game have stuff like that, which is why people use restrictions.
Nick L He DM's (desperation move) when he is down 4 bars of health.
I recommend doing 2 finishes in one combo and Quick Run right after. But this is only viable in Roxas’ 1st phase BEFORE his DM. Cause after his DM, his attacks will have lasers and he has a different revenge value attack in his 2nd phase. Not even Quick Running would work for me. So in his 2nd phase, 2 combos, 1 finisher, and quick run. DO NOT USE 2 FINISHERS OR HE WILL PROBABLY DO HIS 2ND REVENGE VALUE ATTACK.
poor roxas (rocksack)
silvia boi That's what olette calls him that hard "rocksack" all on her face😏
nice move
gg
Now do it with sweet memories, no blocking
Dude if you were gonna make it that hard why not go all the way and use kingdom key?
***** I could do a couple of versions but kingdom key only is not really a big restriction. it just makes the fight longer because I lose the combo boost ability from decisive pumpkin.
Naru-Izanagi Good point anyway you go keep being a badass and I'll go back to my beginner mode :P
+shayden998 I do beginner as well, but I made restrictions: Kingdom key only, no items, no growth abillities, plus I did a no death run
No matter how many restrictions you have, it is hard to die when you play on beginner. I had problems to die intentionally on proud mode.
I saw the Health bar moving and sora's head is turning red
Do Sephiroth with these stats.
4:33 OK...... sora,warum kannst du schweben? o_O
Took damage at 1:35
Nope. Check the comments
@@NarukamiBun I rewatched that and it did look like you took damage but you didnt lose any health so ima side with you
IFrames. It’s a thing that makes it look like you took damage but you didn’t. Technically it said No Damage run, not “get hit” run so technically it’s still no damage.
@@Yurei2K read my reply to the creator
Lexandro Skywalker i know :/
they screwed roxas voice in 2.5....
Agreed.
how so? could you please explain?, I am a bit curious
i mean, roxas voice was so cool and grown up in the original, but they just redubbed him, and let him with the same voice of ventus and roxas on 358/2 .-.
Vini They are similar in voice and looks that's why. Pretty sure he's meant to be Ventus' nobody instead of Sora's anyway
ok then.
Even though you got hit 1:36 still really impressive
Someone doesn't know about invincibility frames.
Imagine you know dont give a shit about skill in this game and end up fighting this boss with normal attack, no dodge roll no fly whatsoever, just walk jump and normal attack.
He got damaged at 1:37
Haziq Khaliddin There’s a thing called iFrames. Lol
As stated by shrinefeldt. Nope i didnt get hit.
Its sound like ventutes
1 hit there at 1:36
I just copy and paste the explanation from rsmouse21:
"It's probably due to how dodge roll and invincibility frames work. If you play Birth by Sleep and fight the Mysterious Figure as Ventus or Aqua, you can hear his blades hit you, but you won't take damage due to how invincibility frames work when doing dodge rolls and cartwheels. It's more apparent during the unversed challenge when you have to collect the orbs he has, even if you're cartwheeling/dodge rolling and take no damage, it still counts as a hit and you lose some orbs."
The same goes for KH2
no soi heiter ni nada pero no esta un poco mal grabado
challenge
lv1 no equipment no drive kingdom.key only no guarding
DigitalPorygon 2 that's not possible..
This makes me hate how Kingdom Hearts 3 turned out. KH2.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
At 1:35 u did that damage I saw sora face make dame look but it dont look like ur HP moved like u can't die
Leon Scott It's still legit. I wont bother explaining anymore. Bizkit047 did a Video about this topic.
1:36 roxas' hit
Khang Văn nope. Check the comments.
Dodge roll has invariable frames m8. It takes very narrow timing
1:35 sora health bar
...didnt go down.
Recoded roxas was better since you couldnt block his speacial attacks and his Ai wasnt rigged
Soul Crona lol its not rigged.
i saw him hurt you, and it didnt do any damage.
*cough* invincibility frames *cough*
+Bryan enhsb He's explained it!
J Swizzle who?
Bryan enhsb The guy who uploaded this video lol
pause at 1:35
he got you but no damage showed effect.
+Christian Kinnel I am tired of explaining that. It happens when I dodge really close. The animation gets triggered when I am inside a hitbox and the invincible frame is about to end.
Naru-Izanagi but still
His HP bar didn't go down, so this is a legit run. Invincibility frames are at work, so.
Naru-Izanagi IFrames can also happen when blocking. Happened to me when I fought Roxas
Trinity uses magic
***** magic is magic. Limit is limit. Limit uses MP and not magic.
1:33 soras face shows the "hit" animation but the health bar is completely fine 😑.... Foul play dude. So much for a no hit!
Its called .... No foul play at all
Funny at 1:35 he gets hit but doesn’t take any damage.....a hack 🧐
Look at other comments. He's explained this.
The Gamer 2018 its called i frames u dumb shit, before talking bullshit learn about the game