Please make a one arm pullup video yes ❤. There's a massive part that almost no other source covers at the moment and that's going from having the strength to do it to actually completing one
I really appreciate you guys putting out free information like this! You'd have to pay quite a bit of money going to your physio once for one issue, nevermind having a free library readily available with so much quality(and well sourced) information around such a diverse set of subjects. You guys deserve so much more love and I hope it comes your way❤
@@HoopersBeta ditto to this👆 and also, either there's actually a broscience subreddit or you took the time to make a fake page for that scene and it made me laugh my ass off.... Very dedicated for the cause, it was literally only up for a half second but i paused just in time, hilarious
your videos on finger injury and how to fix it has really helped me these past 3 weeks. still recovering, but i can climb again with some taped fingers. not pushing it and being safe, but also working on rehabilitating it. dig this episode as well!
“You’ll know more about pull-ups than any of your friends.” You didn’t win… I have no friends. But, I did learn quite a bit about pull-ups and what’s going on biomechanically. Very helpful video. Of course, “Magnus Mitbro” was the icing on the cake.
I'd love to know about the differences between arched back vs straight/hollow body pull ups. Door frame pullup bars are too low for my to do straight body pull ups.
@@TheBonboni11 tucking knees feels awkward and Lsit targets abs a lot more, I cant find a lot of info about what is targeted differently for straight vs arched back. The stuff i have seen has been conflicting.
Dropping a comment for the algo. I usually never comment, but your videos really help to better understand the mechanics of body movements, so thank you.
I noticed it is hard to keep traps retracted and shoulders down while trying to do overhand pull ups. It just feel natural to let your body adjust itself when performing the movement.
Varying your pull up grips makes a lot of sense, even reverse grip. No two climbs are alike and you may need strength with you hand And body at every possible angle. If every route was just a big campus board then maybe there would be no need for grip variation but thankfully that’s not the case. Plus, if you struggle with pull-ups neutral grip or reverse grip may be a good way to work up to standard grip.
I recently started strength training after 6 years of only climbing and immediatly got a golfers elbow. I am doing max pull ups and max hangs. At first I only felt the pain when doing the pull ups, now (after a month) I also feel it when climbing and even when straightening/stretching my arm. Thats why I'm conviced the injury was caused by the pull ups. I did an assesment before starting training and got an 2 RPM of +30 kg (150%) as result. So my following training was 6 sets, 3 reps with +20kg. In a Lattice video a physio said, that when the golfers elbow is caused by pull ups, its often because of the end of motion, but I don't know what that means practically for my training. Im wondering what I did wrong and if I should stop the pull ups completely, dont do the full range of motion (which i thought is important), reduce the intensity (I'd say I'm at 7/10 of effort) or just push through. And/Or should I train special muscles to not load that elbow too much to compensate weaknesses? Any advice? Thanks for the great content! :)
Would love a one arm pull up video. I'd be really interested to know if it's actually an effective way of training for climbing or of they're more of a party trick. I found one arm pulldowns on a cable machine improved my climbing much more than one armers, presumably as it was easier to match the plane of motion of that of climbing.
On a serious note, I found that neutral grip gives me a crazy back pump. Depending how your body’s positioned you can reallly drive your elbows behind your back, much like with a row
I’ve always been fit and athletic and throughout middle school, high school, US Army and my competition fighting days and I was always stronger with BTN pull-ups than the traditional pull-ups. I also feel lest wrist strain and more comfortable doing BTN pull-ups. I am 56 now and still fit at 5’ 8” and 160 lbs. I still am much stronger with BTN pull-ups. Honestly, I dread the thought of doing traditional pull-ups. I literally need to force myself to do traditional pull-ups in at least one of my workout sessions lol. Any trainers know why I am stronger doing BTNs rather than traditional pull-ups? Same with BTN barbell presses. I feel stronger doing those than traditional front barbell press.
It would be very beneficial to have a one arm video, I know most people aren't stuck at the entire movement only different parts. So knowing what muscles are more active in the different ranges would help target accessory muscle training easier!
Great idea! You're right. That is certainly a challenge. I wonder if we did a poll what would be the hardest for the most people, bottom, middle, or top.. hmmm :)
Superb! I’m also a PT and a novice climber. Everything here makes sense! I started incorporating my regular gym work outs with climbing. This video helped me tremendously 👌🏼
you're in the right place! watching their videos (especially all the shoulder-related ones) was how i got back to climbing shape after a shoulder dislocation injury! keep at it and hope you bounce back stronger!
4:57 An isolated exercise to really help with correcting this behaviour would be really appreciated. Any rubber band will help most at the bottom part of the pull-up, not the part where I'm actually having problems with form
True! Excellent point. A weight system would be better to provide assistance throughout the entire range :) Bands were just mentioned because they are much more accessible for most.
Would love to associate these types with climbing styles a bit more. Going dynamic and lacking that oophf? Maybe some regular pull ups- [training schedule here].
Great video! I think I'll start incorporating the reverse grip now that I know it's useful. I was surprised that there was no mention of pectoral activation in the wide grip, I certainly feel it there the day after training... it must just be a weakness of mine. Thanks for putting together another awesome resource!
Right? Definitely has some practical use! There's a chance you're rolling your shoulders forward / scaps into an anterior tilt in order to use the pecs more to compensate for some lower trap / mid back weakness. I'd re-investigate your form and perhaps record yourself. That's not to say there is no pec involvement in the wide grip, it's just to mention it may be a compensation.
@@HoopersBeta Thanks for the tip! I recorded myself doing wide grips and there's a prominent shoulder roll towards the top of my pull-up, especially in later reps/sets.
thankyou for both many lols and some really solid explaining (with visual references for the muscles!! thankyou, from a super visual learner). best quick crash course I've seen on pull ups :)
Awesome! Lattice and Dave Mcleod also have some great training content on UA-cam. Of course if you really want to kickstart your learning, a good coach like Dan Beall (danbeall.climbingcoach@gmail.com) can work wonders. Best of luck!
Is it true that wide grip pull-ups bias the lats more than standard grip? Mike Israetel says the opposite and that seems to make sense that the easier variation would be the one biasing the larger muscle.
what an amazing video! I understand you study and make videos about climbing in general, but I would love to see any type of leg workout, very in depth like this. Maybe I am misunderstanding the point of the channel but there are so little channels that goes so in-depth like you do. Thank you.
If your looking for generic workouts with this level of detail and analysis fitness faqs is a good channel with information from a PHYSIO/ strength coach with a more focus on calisthenics
Great job! There is always controversy surrounding pull ups behind the neck. It looks like the neck is in a bad position. But most people look up when doing a front pull up. And that doesn't seem to bother anyone. Is it bad to do pull-ups behind your head from an anatomy standpoint?
Correct. "looking up" or spinal extension is better in the ending position whereas the pull ups behind the neck, force your neck forward into flexion, which may increase flexion of the thoracic spine as well which changes your ability to engage the scapula in meaningful ways that would be beneficial to climbing strength (and general health of the shoulder).
Hi, thanks again for a very informative video. One thing I often see overlooked and wonder whether there are any differences is the female vs male body. To me as a lay person, it seems that all the examples are illustrated on male body but as far as I know there are differences in terms of upper body muscles etc. So perhaps it would be informative to address those and see what can be done about them ? Because it’s a nice advice for me to just start with the simple pull ups before moving on, but as far as I know that’s much harder for example for my gf or other girls.
Make and female muscles are the same in terms of function, insertion points and practical training. The difference is males usually naturally have more muscle mass on their upper body Edit: so the reason it’s harder for your gf is she probably starting with lower muscle so she needs easier progressions
Yes, I did notice through my experience that a one arm pull up use s muscles differently than a regular pullup. I am actually curious how you would explain it
Please make a one arm pullup video yes ❤. There's a massive part that almost no other source covers at the moment and that's going from having the strength to do it to actually completing one
Definitely would be a fun one to make!
Using a pulley system to take weight off is the best way, IMO
Came here to comment this. Yeah
I would really like to learn how to do a one arm pull up correctly, I think doing them improperly may have given me back pain for a couple of months
One arm pullup video would be amazing. So far the geekclimber is pretty much the only reputable source on how the one arm pullup works
I really appreciate you guys putting out free information like this! You'd have to pay quite a bit of money going to your physio once for one issue, nevermind having a free library readily available with so much quality(and well sourced) information around such a diverse set of subjects. You guys deserve so much more love and I hope it comes your way❤
Thank you for the kind comment! It is much appreciated :) We are glad you're finding it useful.
@@HoopersBeta ditto to this👆 and also, either there's actually a broscience subreddit or you took the time to make a fake page for that scene and it made me laugh my ass off.... Very dedicated for the cause, it was literally only up for a half second but i paused just in time, hilarious
your videos on finger injury and how to fix it has really helped me these past 3 weeks. still recovering, but i can climb again with some taped fingers. not pushing it and being safe, but also working on rehabilitating it. dig this episode as well!
Awesome! Happy to hear that our vid has helped you. Thanks for the comment :)
Same here! Hoping to be climbing next Friday!
“You’ll know more about pull-ups than any of your friends.” You didn’t win… I have no friends. But, I did learn quite a bit about pull-ups and what’s going on biomechanically. Very helpful video. Of course, “Magnus Mitbro” was the icing on the cake.
😂 you sure pulled a fast one on us! Having no friends is the real power move. Glad the video was helpful!
That "Magnus Mitbros" was so smooth 😅
I'd love to know about the differences between arched back vs straight/hollow body pull ups. Door frame pullup bars are too low for my to do straight body pull ups.
I usually try to get my back straight by doing an L seat or tucking my knees
@@TheBonboni11 tucking knees feels awkward and Lsit targets abs a lot more, I cant find a lot of info about what is targeted differently for straight vs arched back. The stuff i have seen has been conflicting.
Arched back is more traps hollow is more lats and core
Arch usually uses more of the inner middle back straight targets the lats more
@@Limbaugh_ This. Question is, what's more needed for a climber (in non-steep territory).
Yes one arm pullup video please!
Also why my elbows really hate one arm pullups but heavy regular pullups (+70kg) dont seem to aggrevate them as much.
Dropping a comment for the algo.
I usually never comment, but your videos really help to better understand the mechanics of body movements, so thank you.
That's fantastic :) Thanks for the comment. Stoked to have the feedback!
archer pull-ups seem applicable to climbing for those moves where you’re leaning one way or another, locking off to get the next hold
You won! So here's my comment. I really loved the "sophisticated research" scene xD Off to the shop now anyway.
hah thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I noticed it is hard to keep traps retracted and shoulders down while trying to do overhand pull ups. It just feel natural to let your body adjust itself when performing the movement.
Varying your pull up grips makes a lot of sense, even reverse grip. No two climbs are alike and you may need strength with you hand And body at every possible angle. If every route was just a big campus board then maybe there would be no need for grip variation but thankfully that’s not the case. Plus, if you struggle with pull-ups neutral grip or reverse grip may be a good way to work up to standard grip.
This mans said "to avoid going straight up into the bar and concussing ourselves..." Hooper's got some crazy velocity on those pullups!
Maybe I'm just a little soft in the head :P
I suffered from golfer's elbow for a couple of years and the safest pull up variation to prevent it from happening again is neutral grip pull ups.
I recently started strength training after 6 years of only climbing and immediatly got a golfers elbow. I am doing max pull ups and max hangs. At first I only felt the pain when doing the pull ups, now (after a month) I also feel it when climbing and even when straightening/stretching my arm. Thats why I'm conviced the injury was caused by the pull ups. I did an assesment before starting training and got an 2 RPM of +30 kg (150%) as result. So my following training was 6 sets, 3 reps with +20kg.
In a Lattice video a physio said, that when the golfers elbow is caused by pull ups, its often because of the end of motion, but I don't know what that means practically for my training. Im wondering what I did wrong and if I should stop the pull ups completely, dont do the full range of motion (which i thought is important), reduce the intensity (I'd say I'm at 7/10 of effort) or just push through. And/Or should I train special muscles to not load that elbow too much to compensate weaknesses? Any advice?
Thanks for the great content! :)
Another fine video. Informative and entertaining. And I know so much more about pull ups now than anyone who hasn't watched this vid.
Happy to hear that! :)
Would love a video on one arm pull-ups! Especially on when to do them, i.e. progression to get to them form normal pull-ups. 😄
Explain it a different way? My dude, the aerospace engineering explanation was mind-blowingly amazing!
Would love a one arm pull up video. I'd be really interested to know if it's actually an effective way of training for climbing or of they're more of a party trick. I found one arm pulldowns on a cable machine improved my climbing much more than one armers, presumably as it was easier to match the plane of motion of that of climbing.
On a serious note, I found that neutral grip gives me a crazy back pump. Depending how your body’s positioned you can reallly drive your elbows behind your back, much like with a row
Fair point! Glad you get some great work with it and can ... focus... on your form... hah
@@HoopersBeta cries in PT
I’ve always been fit and athletic and throughout middle school, high school, US Army and my competition fighting days and I was always stronger with BTN pull-ups than the traditional pull-ups. I also feel lest wrist strain and more comfortable doing BTN pull-ups.
I am 56 now and still fit at 5’ 8” and 160 lbs. I still am much stronger with BTN pull-ups. Honestly, I dread the thought of doing traditional pull-ups. I literally need to force myself to do traditional pull-ups in at least one of my workout sessions lol.
Any trainers know why I am stronger doing BTNs rather than traditional pull-ups? Same with BTN barbell presses. I feel stronger doing those than traditional front barbell press.
That Magnus Midtbrø joke got me good.
You won the bet, learnt a lot, will share it with my bros.
Nice! Thanks for being a good sport ;)
The shades complete this video. Thank you 🙏🙏
😎
It would be very beneficial to have a one arm video, I know most people aren't stuck at the entire movement only different parts. So knowing what muscles are more active in the different ranges would help target accessory muscle training easier!
Great idea! You're right. That is certainly a challenge. I wonder if we did a poll what would be the hardest for the most people, bottom, middle, or top.. hmmm :)
Thanks for the video)) As always: good quality content+ a bit of humour= perfection.
Hah thank you! Glad you enjoyed :)
Superb! I’m also a PT and a novice climber. Everything here makes sense! I started incorporating my regular gym work outs with climbing. This video helped me tremendously 👌🏼
Hello and welcome! Glad you agreed! And hope you enjoy your journey into climbing :)
I lost the bet but was worth it; I now know more about pullups than I ever thought I would! Great video as always, guys.
Awesome! That's the good kind of bet to lose ;) hah. Thanks for the comment!
You win! I am currently dealing with a shoulder injury and am finding your videos super helpful. Thanks!
Dang! Sorry to hear about the shoulder injury but stoked to hear that the videos are helpful!!
you're in the right place! watching their videos (especially all the shoulder-related ones) was how i got back to climbing shape after a shoulder dislocation injury! keep at it and hope you bounce back stronger!
of course not just watching, but actually following and doing all the work Xp best of luck in your recovery!
4:57 An isolated exercise to really help with correcting this behaviour would be really appreciated. Any rubber band will help most at the bottom part of the pull-up, not the part where I'm actually having problems with form
True! Excellent point. A weight system would be better to provide assistance throughout the entire range :) Bands were just mentioned because they are much more accessible for most.
"If I win, you've got to leave us a nice comment."
* Cracks knuckles *
Nice
🤙🤙
A bet is a bet. Well played, sir. Well played.
😅 thank you! 🤙
I loved the engineers description! I always knew Calc 3 would be useful at some point
Do the one arm pull up video as well pretty please. Very good content, guys. Good job.
On it!
Would love to associate these types with climbing styles a bit more. Going dynamic and lacking that oophf? Maybe some regular pull ups- [training schedule here].
thanks buddy!!
🙏
Great video! I think I'll start incorporating the reverse grip now that I know it's useful. I was surprised that there was no mention of pectoral activation in the wide grip, I certainly feel it there the day after training... it must just be a weakness of mine. Thanks for putting together another awesome resource!
Right? Definitely has some practical use!
There's a chance you're rolling your shoulders forward / scaps into an anterior tilt in order to use the pecs more to compensate for some lower trap / mid back weakness. I'd re-investigate your form and perhaps record yourself. That's not to say there is no pec involvement in the wide grip, it's just to mention it may be a compensation.
@@HoopersBeta Thanks for the tip! I recorded myself doing wide grips and there's a prominent shoulder roll towards the top of my pull-up, especially in later reps/sets.
Yes please on the 1 arm pullup video. 🙌
And thanks for the knowledge bomb! Quality first ✅
Thank you! It's a deal :)
Explained very detailed 👍🏻
What surprised me is the reverse grip is my strongest pull-up and also the one that irritates my shoulder at the same time
A deals a deal! Here is my comment! And my upvote! And my stoke! Love you guys!!!
Thank you! :)
Lots of info--you win the bet. But my question is, should I avoid pull-ups with an irritated medial epicondyle?
Thank you very much sirs. It is always humbling when ya'll shine a light on my broy-ness. TCSR.
Haha our please! 🙏
Yes please make a one arm pull-up video
I see you aren't wrapping your thumb around the bar on the pull-ups, is this significant in the quality of the exercise? Thanks!
That grip just comes more naturally to me because I find myself in that position far more often with climbing.
This is the only channel I actually have notifications turned on for, fire content as always!
Awesome!! That's really cool to hear :). Thanks for the support!
The Magnus Mitbro made my day :D
excellent info. thanks a lot
Yes one arm pull up video please! also this is a great video. I love the movement break down with muscle activation in each.
You've won fair and square
Keep it up, guys 💪😁
Thank you!
Love that I found this channel!
Beautiful work - interesting and funny!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice Breakdown!
Glad you liked it!
thankyou for both many lols and some really solid explaining (with visual references for the muscles!! thankyou, from a super visual learner). best quick crash course I've seen on pull ups :)
Awesome! We both appreciate the kind words and are happy that it helped you!
One minute into the first video I ever watched from your channel and I already liked and subscribed. Your content is amazing!
Awesome 👍 Thank you and welcome to the channel :)
Super freaky awesome!!! Science into climbing, what's better? ❤
thank you for the help and advice!!!
No problem!
Thanks for this video! Came at the perfect time.
Very nice video!
A lot of work and research put into a video. Thanks a lot!
Absolutely! Thank you for the comment!
Well played... Well played
Thanks for the content!
Our pleasure!
You won the bet.
Not only was it intesely nformative, this video was hilarious
Haha thank you for saying so!
Great entertain-educational video! Love it!
I was just going over correct pull up form. This is great!
great video!
1-arm pull up video would be interesting to compare with this one
Agreed!
Great video. Thanks! The one arm pull-up video would be great.
Excellent video, as usual. Thanks for the great content you produce!
You won. Sweet vid, bro.
Love the humor AND info; keep up the good work while having fun :)
The last part is very important :)
Everything you make is amazing; more please!
How about every week? :)
Good stuff 👍
Thanks 👍
Great video. Thank you so much for these!
Our pleasure!
beautiful video, I'm self trained and am trying to find more about how I'm training, thank you
Awesome! Lattice and Dave Mcleod also have some great training content on UA-cam. Of course if you really want to kickstart your learning, a good coach like Dan Beall (danbeall.climbingcoach@gmail.com) can work wonders. Best of luck!
great video! :)
great as always!
Love the content
Thank you!
Thank you for the awesome video ❤️
Nice Joe dart bass line
Great video
Really helpful and interesting. I did'nt know that pricep is engaged in pull ups.
Always neat to learn new biomechanics, right?
Is it true that wide grip pull-ups bias the lats more than standard grip? Mike Israetel says the opposite and that seems to make sense that the easier variation would be the one biasing the larger muscle.
love this channel
As always absolutely amazing content!
Thank you!
what an amazing video! I understand you study and make videos about climbing in general, but I would love to see any type of leg workout, very in depth like this. Maybe I am misunderstanding the point of the channel but there are so little channels that goes so in-depth like you do.
Thank you.
Thanks for the idea! Yes, our focus is on rock climbing training and rehab but we love the feedback and new ideas!
If your looking for generic workouts with this level of detail and analysis fitness faqs is a good channel with information from a PHYSIO/ strength coach with a more focus on calisthenics
I'm currently working on being able to do at least one real pullup, which as a female I find really hard. I'm getting there though :)
Nice! Keep up the good work! Comment again or on a new vid once you've gotten it down :)
Great vid! Thanks Hooper!
Welcome!
Great job! There is always controversy surrounding pull ups behind the neck. It looks like the neck is in a bad position. But most people look up when doing a front pull up. And that doesn't seem to bother anyone. Is it bad to do pull-ups behind your head from an anatomy standpoint?
Correct. "looking up" or spinal extension is better in the ending position whereas the pull ups behind the neck, force your neck forward into flexion, which may increase flexion of the thoracic spine as well which changes your ability to engage the scapula in meaningful ways that would be beneficial to climbing strength (and general health of the shoulder).
Hi, thanks again for a very informative video. One thing I often see overlooked and wonder whether there are any differences is the female vs male body. To me as a lay person, it seems that all the examples are illustrated on male body but as far as I know there are differences in terms of upper body muscles etc. So perhaps it would be informative to address those and see what can be done about them ? Because it’s a nice advice for me to just start with the simple pull ups before moving on, but as far as I know that’s much harder for example for my gf or other girls.
Make and female muscles are the same in terms of function, insertion points and practical training. The difference is males usually naturally have more muscle mass on their upper body
Edit: so the reason it’s harder for your gf is she probably starting with lower muscle so she needs easier progressions
Very nice!
Thankful as always for this great and free content. Here is the earned comment guys. Keep growing our climbing knowledges (also our biceps) 😋
Haha thank you! And happy to 😎👍
Thank you for this!
One arm pull-up video would be great 👍
I agree! We'll get to work on it :)
another fantastic piece of content 👏
Thank you!
This is great thanks!!
Yes, I did notice through my experience that a one arm pull up use s muscles differently than a regular pullup. I am actually curious how you would explain it
We'll have to make a vid on it!
Good one 🎉
Thank you!
I like how its recorded
nice vid men! gran trabajo!
Thank you!