My father was in the Army of the Occupation at Oberphaffenhofen AFB just outside of Munich during 1946-1948 and he was able to bring over my mom and me to live there. Although I was only 3 and 4 yrs. old, I still remember the destroyed building and bricks piled beside every street. We traveled a great deal to France and Italy and my parents really loved Berchtesgarden. We lived in a home in Steinebach on the lake and mom fed several orphaned kids who stayed at our home. My dad's fellow B-24 pilots would always come over to our house during the weekend for barbecues and lots of drinking. I was able to go to a German kindergarten because my parents wanted me to learn about other cultures and traditions and when I had a birthday, we had all the kids from my school come to the base for ice cream and cake. My classmates had never had cake or ice cream before so they were very excited. I still have great memories of Germany
Wow! What a great story! It kind of amazes me to see people going about their business, not even looking slightly disturbed by their world that makes me think Bomber Command and the 8th air force were failures in getting Germany to capitulate (yes, I know the bombing was hell on earth).
Many Thanks ! For your great " real life " true story of those long ago days of living in the post-war Munich area. I am a German-American born in 1948 with a GI Dad and a German War Bride Mother. I once lived in the next town over from you in Gilching-Argelsried. So I, too, have a good--- understanding of the places that you mentioned. I am sure for all the local Bavarian people there. That you and your very kind family were perfect goodwill ambassadors. For the United States and all its good people who lived in Germany back then. I was born in Brooklyn, NYC. But I married a German girl who was very homesick. So I returned to Munich when I was 24 years old, way back in 1973. I have lived in Munich for the past 50 years. When I speak to the older Bavarians or their children and even grandchildren. They still can recall the stories of the kindness that Americans had shown to them in their defeated country. Be proud that you and your family were part of that. --- mfG, Norman in München-Obergiesing
Many Thanks ! For your great " real life " true story of those long ago days of living in the post-war Munich area. I am a German-American born in 1948 with a GI Dad and a German War Bride Mother. I once lived in the next town over from you in Gilching-Argelsried. So I, too, have a good--- understanding of the places that you mentioned. I am sure for all the local Bavarian people there. That you and your very kind family were perfect goodwill ambassadors. For the United States and all its good people who lived in Germany back then. I was born in Brooklyn, NYC. But I married a German girl who was very homesick. So I returned to Munich when I was 24 years old, way back in 1973. I have lived in Munich for the past 50 years. When I speak to the older Bavarians or their children and even grandchildren. They still can recall the stories of the kindness that Americans had shown to them in their defeated country. Be proud that you and your family were part of that. --- mfG, Norman in München-Obergiesing
als münchner soviele orte in schutt und asche zu sehen, an denen ich fast täglich vorbeigehe macht extrem nachdenklich und dankbar, dass ich in dieser heutigen zeit in münchen aufwachsen darf
Seltsamerweise gibt es schon wieder Menschen, die Hitler großartig finden. Das Ergebnis der Politik dieses menschenverachten Drecksacks kann man in dem Video betrachten.
ebenfalls. Ich finde es wirklich schrecklich, was Krieg anrichten kann: Sachschaden sowie Personenschaden. Zahllose Kriegsopfer, sowohl Mensch, als auch Tiere, die Umwelt und Historische Gebäude. Alles, was da ist, wurde weggebombt. Ich bin froh, das es die Theatinerkirche nicht so ernsthaft erwischt hat, die ist meiner Meinung nach die schönste Kirche in ganz München
So nice that somebody had the foresight to film these cities straight after the war. In order to freeze them in time the way that they looked before serious restoration had begun. Thank you for uploading. Tremendously enjoyable footage!
My father was sent by the US Air Force to Germany in 1955 to help rebuild the German Air Force. He was stationed at a former Luftwaffe air base near Landsberg, about 30 miles west of Munich. We went to Munich many times during 1955-1958 and I remember many of these buildings. There was still a lot of bomb damage from the war 10 years earlier, but by 1958 the Germans had rebuilt most everything. I was stationed in Germany myself 30 years later and visited Munich--a beautiful city and oh that beer.
Geht mir ganz genauso. Bin Baujahr 67, in München geboren und habe bis 2000 dort gelebt. Kannte - da während des Studiums bei ihr wohnhaft - die Witwe des Dr. Scheid, nachdem die U-Bahn-Haltestelle am SKH benannt ist. Von daher kenne ich aus erstem Munde Geschichte aus dieser und den Jahren vor dieser Zeit... Eine Riesenleistung, dass man die Städte im Süden bei dem hohen Maß an Zerstörung wieder so hin bekommen hat...
@@matthiasrottler947 Ja... ich frage mich, was ihnen dabei wohl durch den Kopf ging... Ob sie es wohl verflucht haben, das sie so dämlich waren und Hitler zur Macht verhalfen ?
@@KeckderFuchs Einem der "1967 Baujahr" ist, Hitler zur Macht verhelfen, entweder haben sie in Geschichte nicht aufgepasst, den 1967 war Hitler schon längst tot, oder ich stehe auf der Leitung
I went to Munich twice in 92 and 96 , I see these archive images , it is beautiful monument that have been restored and redone and courage for reconstruction well done , and thanks again for sharing
Das sind schon eindrucksvolle Bilder. Auch faszinierend zu sehen ist die Wandlung des Stadtbilds im Vergleich zu damals. Der Viktualienmarkt im Zentrum, der Sitz des amerikanischen Generalkonsulats München (in unmittelbarer Nähe zum Haus der Kunst), der ehemalige Bürgerbräu Keller wo jetzt das Hilton München City steht und so weiter.
Toll. Als Münchner fasziniert mich das sehr. Es wäre schön, wenn man als Untertitel Beschreibungen hätte, was da gerade zu sehen ist. Vieles habe ich erkannt, vieles aber auch nicht.
Time machine. Wonderful camera work wow. Hard to believe this devastation happened then we see this colorized stuff and it’s like we are standing there in 1945. Strange feeling
Einfach toll das es solche Historischen Aufnahmen gibt,und wenn man es anschaut kann man es garnicht glauben,wie beeindruckend es ist.So etwas ist unwiederbringlich!!!!👍👏
“Concentration camps Dachau, Velden, Buchenwald, I feel ashamed being a German” written on the Feldherrnhalle. Says a lot how the average German felt after the war.
This is one of the first and one of the most famous graffities of munich. And it was written on an signficant wall. At the place in front of the monument, hitler tried on 11.9.1923 his coup and had been arrested there. After 1933 this place become nearly a religious meaning to the nazis. At the monument had been soldiers as a hohor guard. And every person that passed the place had to greet in the way of hitler greeting. People they dont act this way, got serious trouble
@@glory2thehighest254 I agree, but I'm not sure if it's not the 60s to mid80s, but the age we were there and our distorted memory (which happens to everyone and is unavoidable).
My father ended the war here, 759 Military Police Bn. Long road to get here, North Africa, Road to Rome, Invasion of Southern France, up to Saint Di France, then in to Germany ending in Munich. As a Military Policeman, he was in Dachau but would never speak of it, other then you had to push bodies into a grave, because they fell apart if you attempted to carry them.
Nicht gesehen im Geschichtsunterricht? Ich schon, Hambrug Dresden, München, die Filme von den KZ-Befreiungen...Und ich reg mich schon darüber auf, dass damals in den 1970ern das 3. Reich so huschhusch in Geschichte behandelt wurde. Mit Pippinen und Ottonen wurden wir gefühlt 2 Jahre gequält, das 3. Reich hatten wir in maximal 2 Monaten durch.
At 16:40 the sign shows a Rainbow and the number 42. That is from the US Army 42nd Rainbow Division which my father was with. They went from Munich to Dachau.
@@tpm2056 Thank you. Of course, it is the fork of Bayerstrasse and Schützenstrasse - as seen from Karlsplatz. Wow. I didn't immediately recognise it - even though I used to go to "Foto-Pini" all the time from the 70s. Amazing to see all these U.S. Army trucks and jeeps going by. I even found pictures of a "Pzkw. V Panther tank", captured by the Americans in front of this building. 😊
No, Sir. It's called long term associational Genes. Generations and generations of similar indivuals reprodution and you end up having almost the same genes as your relatives. Just like asians do look all the same in some aspects. Be well!
Hola desde Lima Perú,interesante histórico vídeo. Es admirable el resurgimiento de Alemania. Mi hija menor estudió el Post Grado en la Universidad Técnica de Munich TUM, Está casada con un joven científico alemán egresado de la misma universidad, fué reconocido el año 2018 como primer científico de la Unión Europea. Admiro mucho al pueblo alemán. Gracias por el video.
@@beerborn I believe 16mm was newsreel standard. Also what was taken into the field by both sides. 8mm is to low quality and grainy for something that's going to be shown in movie theaters. 35mm is to big, bulky, and heavy to drag around the field. 16mm hits a nice compromise between the two.
I was in Munich (around Haar) in 1972.. It is so hard to believe that what a great change in so short time of period at all!..What type of people these Germans. How did they succeed this? How is it be possible? Does anybody know and can explain it?
@KokainuserOf course foreign workers are also important for that, but the main answer is, in my opinion, different.. One of the main and real answers is the power and capability of knowledge and engineering and also the ability of using these elements.. But, still this is not the answer for my question.. I ask for after so great destruction why Germany rise up so quickly in a very great discipline and why not any other country reached to this success yet? Why not France, Italy, Norway, England, Poland, Sweden, Turkey, and many more, etc ? As you know, there are so many German oriented trade marks in every field of Industry (Navigation, electronic, mechanic, chemistry, high technology in every field of manufacturing, CNC, computer, robot, and many more what ever you think).. We also know they were manufacturing airplanes in underground in Poland during WWII. I also have electromechanical background and know what these mean. Is there any other country which has more company names and successful all around the world than Germany? Isn't it worth to investigate? This is one of the many issues I'm interested and searching on these matters..
Emin Kulturel The USA...which was 85% German decent at the time. Also USA taxes went to rebuild Germany. England suffered terribly. The losing Nations were helped the most. Japan was rebuilt by the Americans. We wanted Japan and Germany to be erased of their dark leanings, so we occupied them until they were back on their own feet. We are only Nation in all of history who did this. We took nothing for our own...no “spoils of war”. Then there was the Marshall Plan of 1947. Need I say more?
I really don't understand why it was necessary to bomb these beautiful cities. I understand bombing war manufacturing plants, factories, railroads, airstrips, but not the classical buildings, homes, convents, cathedrals, abbeys, castles, monasteries, schools, town squares etc.
It was necessary in order to make the Germans understand that if they invaded other countries and destroyed their cities they would suffer the same and worse themselves. The plan worked. Germany has not invaded any of its neighbours since 1945. The country is no longer a menace to mankind.
@Garret Petersen Yep, that´s the difference between US/AUS/NZ tourists and european tourists. We have far more clue about geography and history and inform ourselves upfront before travelling to a foreign country.
Sure. Most Germans I have known think they know more about the world than they do. Just because Germans watch American movies doesn't mean they know much about the US. They don't.
Beim Anblick der Zerstörungen kann man verstehen, daß es den Plan gab, München komplett aufzugeben,(die Ruinen als Mahnmal stehenzulassen) um in der Nähe des Starnberger Sees eine neue Stadt zu bauen.
@@fynnoleianson8802 Das glaube ich garnicht mal.... Wenn man es auch der Sicht eines damaligen Deutschen betrachtet: Anfang der 30er Jahre vielleicht ein Jugendlicher, der Hitler lautstark zugerufen hat. Später voller Stolz und Überheblichkeit in den Krieg gezogen. Kam dann 1945 als Überlebender nach München und sah, was nun geschehen ist und das er auf Sand gebaut hatte.... Vielleicht war es genau so jemand, welcher diese Worte da hinschrieb...
No actual logic. Churchill originated the idea, however, cities like Dresden were not just bombed with conventional bombs from bombers overhead, but also with incendiary bombs which not only started buildings on fire but created whirlwinds that rose in temperature and even melted the asphalt of the streets. Many civilians died trying to run across streets to flee burning buildings only to be trapped in the melting asphalt where they burst into flames. The British and American bombing of Dresden should be considered a war crime.
michael ehrenreich there actually was a plan to it...demoralization! To subject the urban heartland to mass casualties for supporting Nazi Germany, was supposed to send home a very, clear message. Now, the allies, England in particular, stated that there were industrial targets of interest to the German war machine that they were after...which we know is bullocks!
The logic is that the Anglo-Saxons never loosen their grip when their opponent is down on the knees. They always tend to hit the knelt down to death. You are lucky to deal with the Russians when you deal with us, because we quickly forget the harmd you do to us
Es ist echt surreal dies zu sehen.. München meine lieblings Stadt so zertrümmert und diese Worte "ich schäme mich dass ich ein Deutscher bin" hits hard..
Whoever wrote that should added the rape of 2 million woman by the Red Army and the700,000 plus German civilians killed by allied bombers The mass rapes of Japanese woman on Okinawa by American GIs should not be forgotten
Please don’t say that. I am against ultra nationalism and think it is very bad, but I am proud of my family. All hard working Germans, decent people. I am sure your parents and grandparents were good people also, or are if they still live. You can be proud without being racist, proud without arrogance, proud without racism, in other words accept yourself. We can’t change the past but we can work to make a better future. Germany has done a lot to try to repair its image. Many other countries commit crimes and don’t care. When I was in Russia Stalin’s grace was full of flowers people would take everyday to honor him, he is responsible for 60million deaths. Germany does not honor Hitler.
@@anthondeutsch3133 Absolutely true. A large number of Germans even in WWII were not Nazis. And today, no country has followed the example of Germany to atone for its past failures. And every nation has its failures and crimes against humanity.
The logistics of that war were mindboggling...... One of the reasons the nazis lost ten thousands during their murdering campaigns....There hardly were any facilities to bring wounded men back home from the eastern front...As Adolf stated ...."fight till death" while he was sipping tea in his bunker... Although,.....the same nation that beat the nazis ,was (as part of the 1918 allied conglomerate) also instrumental to the fascist power grab.....
Ja, das fällt wirklich auf. Ich hätte mir gedacht, dass im Stadtzentrum fast nichts mehr steht und je weiter man rausfährt desto intakter ist die Stadt dann geblieben. Teile des Münchener Stadtzentrums haben scheint's weniger 'abbekommen' als z.B. die Berliner Stadtmitte. Da stehen ja am Kriegende nur noch Ruinen herum. Wenn ein Haus weg ist, der Block ansonsten aber noch steht, dann nehme ich an, dass das ein direkter Treffer einer Sprengbombe war. Das wirklich Destruktive in diesem Bombenkrieg waren aber die millionenfach abgeworfenen Stabbrandbomben, die tausende Brände auslösten, die man nicht mehr löschen konnte. Und Berlin hat dann im April 1945 noch massiven Artilleriebeschuss abbekommen (was in München auch nicht der Fall war).
@@paulsanders9262 Stimmt.Ich bin geb.Münchner. Man muss natürlich schon sagen daß vor allem die Maxvorstadt(ca. Hbf. bis ElisabethStr.(N/S) u.DachauerStr. bis LudwigStr.(W/O) ziemlich ausradiert wurde.
Da sahen Berlin und Köln schlimmer aus.. wobei man sagen muss dass München ja "nur" bombardiert wurde und sehr groß ist. Gute Filmaufnahmen, wunderschöne Stadt
@@samanli-tw3id Dresden hat es auch schlimm erwischt.. oder Pforzheim. zumindest sind das die deutschen Städte.. Stalingrad, clydebank und Coventry wurden ja auch schwer weggebombt.. Von Tokyo und den Atombomben ganz zu schweigen.. Oder die Französischen Städte der Normandie.. von ihren eigenen Verbündeten ausgebombt
Uranos 96 dann bist du blind Mann erkennt vieles trotzt das alles zerstört war Isar Tor z.b Königsplatz dann bei Isar .. oder am stachus und hbf ich weis nicht wie du das nicht erkennst ??‘
Sie sollten sich nur dann schämen, wenn Sie für eine der Schweinerein der NAZI-Diktatur Sympathie empfänden oder gar verantwortlich wären. Offenbar ist das nicht der Fall, also müssen Sie sich auch nicht schämen. Menschen pauschal für etwas zu verurteilen, auch sich selbst als Deutscher, ist nämlich das eigentliche Problem. Die Deutschen, die Juden, die Amerikaner gibt es nicht. Es gibt nur einzelne Menschen und ihre Taten. Von daher ist es falsch, sich als Deutscher für etwas zu schämen, das man als Individuum nicht zu verantworten hat. Genauso falsch ist es, Flüchtlingen pauschal zu unterstellen, dass sie in unserem Land nur Böses vorhaben. Diese Leute sind in ihrer Mehrheit weder Messermänner oder Terroristen noch wollen sie uns umvolken. Das sind Hetzpatolen von Neonazis, die uns Anhgst machen wollen, damit wir sie als "Retter" in die Regierung wählen. Darauf sollte niemand reinfallen. AFD, NPD, Die Rechte und wie sie alle heißen sind die Rattenfänger der Moderne, die nur eine Sprache verstehen: den Arschtritt.
@Michael Collins Das stimmt, es ist ein wachsendes Problem. Zwar verdienen hier viele Menschen auch sehr gut, aber wir haben ein Problem wenn normale Polizeibeamte, Krankenschwestern, Erzieher etc. nicht mehr in der Stadt leben können. Zur Entlastung sind viele infrastrukturelle Schritte nötig, Verkehrsreformen, schnellerer Ausbau des S-Bahn Netzes, neue Zentren außerhalb des Stadtkerns bilden etc.
Ja,, München weiss, wie man Geld macht. Die Menschen dazu haben wir genug und spielen absolut keine Rolle, weil wir haben sie mehr als genug. In Muc haben wir alles mehr als genug, aber wehe, es begehrt einer auf.
Wonder if some American GIs brought back Bavarian mugs, pretzels, frankfurters, mustard & beer. ' Look ma' a GI returning at the end of 1945 'I brought big pretzels & Bavarian mugs from Germany'😜😜
I am an American and every time I see videos of the destruction of German cities I feel sad. All done for what?...Prevention of the prevention of the Bolsheviks conquering Europe, who then conquered half of it. And who then became the enemies of the preventers of the preventers.
Yeah, sure. I suggest you ask the Poles, the Norwegians, the Danes, the Dutch, the French, the Greeks, and the peoples of the former Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and Soviet Union whether or not it was a good thing Nazi Germany lost WWII. Hell, ask any thinking American. (Just don't ask a far right nut job. They're psychotic and can't give an informed answer.)
Germany/Japan had to be stopped in ww2, no question there, but yes the thought of children being burnt up in fire raids is pretty horrific. Kids are kids, no matter the ancestry, and if anyone thinks a baby who can't even speak is a Nazi, they have a screw loose. That whole war devolved people into savages. But you are right, for any country east of Germany the war was a loss, one flag was simply traded for another. We liberated France, Holland, _____, etc, booted the fascists from Germany/Italy, made Japan peaceful again, and say we "won" the war. Well, we also handed over half of Europe to a lunatic dictator who took over every country he was allowed, crushed any resistance with brutal force, and killed millions in "work camps". Sound familiar? We went to war in Europe to stop one nutbar but replaced him with another, so did we really win? I would day we did it half right. Sure the Soveit Union finally fell 45 years later, but not before a whole pile of people bit the dust under "Uncle Joe's" reign.
My father was in the Army of the Occupation at Oberphaffenhofen AFB just outside of Munich during 1946-1948 and he was able to bring over my mom and me to live there. Although I was only 3 and 4 yrs. old, I still remember the destroyed building and bricks piled beside every street. We traveled a great deal to France and Italy and my parents really loved Berchtesgarden. We lived in a home in Steinebach on the lake and mom fed several orphaned kids who stayed at our home. My dad's
fellow B-24 pilots would always come over to our house during the weekend for barbecues and lots of drinking. I
was able to go to a German kindergarten because my parents wanted me to learn about other cultures and
traditions and when I had a birthday, we had all the kids from my school come to the base for ice cream and cake.
My classmates had never had cake or ice cream before so they were very excited. I still have great memories of Germany
Wow! What a great story!
It kind of amazes me to see people going about their business, not even looking slightly disturbed by their world that makes me think Bomber Command and the 8th air force were failures in getting Germany to capitulate (yes, I know the bombing was hell on earth).
Many Thanks ! For your great " real life " true story of those long ago days of living in the post-war Munich area. I am a German-American born in 1948 with a GI Dad and a German War Bride Mother. I once lived in the next town over from you in Gilching-Argelsried. So I, too, have a good--- understanding of the places that you mentioned. I am sure for all the local Bavarian people there. That you and your very kind family were perfect goodwill ambassadors. For the United States and all its good people who lived in Germany back then. I was born in Brooklyn, NYC. But I married a German girl who was very homesick. So I returned to Munich when I was 24 years old, way back in 1973. I have lived in Munich for the past 50 years. When I speak to the older Bavarians or their children and even grandchildren. They still can recall the stories of the kindness that Americans had shown to them in their defeated country. Be proud that you and your family were part of that. --- mfG, Norman in München-Obergiesing
Many Thanks ! For your great " real life " true story of those long ago days of living in the post-war Munich area. I am a German-American born in 1948 with a GI Dad and a German War Bride Mother. I once lived in the next town over from you in Gilching-Argelsried. So I, too, have a good--- understanding of the places that you mentioned. I am sure for all the local Bavarian people there. That you and your very kind family were perfect goodwill ambassadors. For the United States and all its good people who lived in Germany back then. I was born in Brooklyn, NYC. But I married a German girl who was very homesick. So I returned to Munich when I was 24 years old, way back in 1973. I have lived in Munich for the past 50 years. When I speak to the older Bavarians or their children and even grandchildren. They still can recall the stories of the kindness that Americans had shown to them in their defeated country. Be proud that you and your family were part of that. --- mfG, Norman in München-Obergiesing
...YOU'RE LUCKY...(!)
@@normanmartin2225 Thanks so much for your comment. It is appreciated and best of luck to you living in a beautiful country.
als münchner soviele orte in schutt und asche zu sehen, an denen ich fast täglich vorbeigehe macht extrem nachdenklich und dankbar, dass ich in dieser heutigen zeit in münchen aufwachsen darf
Seltsamerweise gibt es schon wieder Menschen, die Hitler großartig finden. Das Ergebnis der Politik dieses menschenverachten Drecksacks kann man in dem Video betrachten.
Viele Gegenden schaun 1945 als Trümmer schöner aus als heute.
@@messerschmittbolkow5606 Red kein Blech
ebenfalls. Ich finde es wirklich schrecklich, was Krieg anrichten kann: Sachschaden sowie Personenschaden. Zahllose Kriegsopfer, sowohl Mensch, als auch Tiere, die Umwelt und Historische Gebäude. Alles, was da ist, wurde weggebombt. Ich bin froh, das es die Theatinerkirche nicht so ernsthaft erwischt hat, die ist meiner Meinung nach die schönste Kirche in ganz München
@@heinzsilberbach7586 peleo y pelearon a muerte contra el orden y la esclavitud que hoy en día se ciñe sobre el mundo.
So nice that somebody had the foresight to film these cities straight after the war. In order to freeze them in time the way that they looked before serious restoration had begun. Thank you for uploading. Tremendously enjoyable footage!
My father was sent by the US Air Force to Germany in 1955 to help rebuild the German Air Force. He was stationed at a former Luftwaffe air base near Landsberg, about 30 miles west of Munich. We went to Munich many times during 1955-1958 and I remember many of these buildings. There was still a lot of bomb damage from the war 10 years earlier, but by 1958 the Germans had rebuilt most everything. I was stationed in Germany myself 30 years later and visited Munich--a beautiful city and oh that beer.
The 1957 classic Interlude was filmed in 1956 with June Allyson show much of Munich rebuilt😁
München! Meine Heimatstadt.Diese Farbaufnahmen sind sehr beeindruckend und machen nachdenklich.
Geht mir ganz genauso. Bin Baujahr 67, in München geboren und habe bis 2000 dort gelebt. Kannte - da während des Studiums bei ihr wohnhaft - die Witwe des Dr. Scheid, nachdem die U-Bahn-Haltestelle am SKH benannt ist. Von daher kenne ich aus erstem Munde Geschichte aus dieser und den Jahren vor dieser Zeit... Eine Riesenleistung, dass man die Städte im Süden bei dem hohen Maß an Zerstörung wieder so hin bekommen hat...
@@matthiasrottler947 Ja... ich frage mich, was ihnen dabei wohl durch den Kopf ging... Ob sie es wohl verflucht haben, das sie so dämlich waren und Hitler zur Macht verhalfen ?
@@KeckderFuchs Einem der "1967 Baujahr" ist, Hitler zur Macht verhelfen, entweder haben sie in Geschichte nicht aufgepasst, den 1967 war Hitler schon längst tot, oder ich stehe auf der Leitung
@@puerto3776
Du stehst auf der Leitung
@@puerto3776 Er meinte ja offensichtlich die Bevölkerung damals und nicht die Person zu welcher er replied hat
This is a mine of gold! Awesome how germans are hard working and how Germany recovered after WWII. Greetings to all Germans!
Nicht nur die Deutschen halfen beim Aufbau mein Freund!
I think they should have leveled the place and turned Germany into a pastoral farming community like they thought of doing.
@@munihstar stimmt das wäre respektlos die ganzen Wanderarbeiter aus europa, amerika und aller welt zu vergessen!
@@dougg1075 Sure you do. Does your last name end in 'stein', 'berg', 'itz' or 'in' by chance?
@@dougg1075 lmao
Vielen Dank für die eindrücklichen Bilder.
😘
I was in the US Army stationed in Munich 1970-1972. Loved it. Got to go to two October Fests!
I went to Munich twice in 92 and 96 , I see these archive images , it is beautiful monument that have been restored and redone and courage for reconstruction well done , and thanks again for sharing
Man munkelt die ganze Restauration hat weniger als die Erbauung der Berliner Flughafen gedauert.
In Berlin wird vielleicht kein Flughafen gebaut. Ein Bunker für die Regierung. Wenn es einen Atomkrieg gibt.
Maureen Almudena, aber man munkelt auch nur ! 😝
dieser verfickte flughafen ist ne scheiß geldwaschmaschiene genau wie die gorch fock. aufpassen. seit wachsam
@@desperados986 ...und die Erde ist flach, und die Sonne dreht sich um die Erde....
Fakt! :)
this gives me goosebumps... watching my hometown like 3/4 of a century ago... after one of the most fatal wars of modern time
THE most.
And today, Munich is again so beautiful :) I am living in Munich from last 5 years.
Hats off to all, who worked hard to rebuild this wonderful city.
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I was at Munich 72 for 1 month ... Nice city but tragic history.
Das sind schon eindrucksvolle Bilder. Auch faszinierend zu sehen ist die Wandlung des Stadtbilds im Vergleich zu damals. Der Viktualienmarkt im Zentrum, der Sitz des amerikanischen Generalkonsulats München (in unmittelbarer Nähe zum Haus der Kunst), der ehemalige Bürgerbräu Keller wo jetzt das Hilton München City steht und so weiter.
Toll. Als Münchner fasziniert mich das sehr. Es wäre schön, wenn man als Untertitel Beschreibungen hätte, was da gerade zu sehen ist. Vieles habe ich erkannt, vieles aber auch nicht.
Schade dass bei diesem Film kein Ton gibt. Aus diesem Grund habe ich diesen Beitrag negativ bewertet. Mit freundlichen Grüßen
ixh kenne alles noch,, ich bin damit aufgewachsen!
@@peteresser2403 Diese Bilder brauchen keinen Ton.
Ich kenne alles!
@@peteresser2403 das ist ein Grund es negativ zu bewertend? Vergrab dich
Long live great and strong Germany!God bless all German!And my warm greetings from Azerbaijan!!!
Vielen Dank !
Time machine. Wonderful camera work wow. Hard to believe this devastation happened then we see this colorized stuff and it’s like we are standing there in 1945. Strange feeling
Einfach toll das es solche Historischen Aufnahmen gibt,und wenn man es anschaut kann man es garnicht glauben,wie beeindruckend es ist.So etwas ist unwiederbringlich!!!!👍👏
traurig, aber wahr.
“Concentration camps Dachau, Velden, Buchenwald, I feel ashamed being a German” written on the Feldherrnhalle. Says a lot how the average German felt after the war.
Даже не верится, учитывая огромное количество бывших солдат СС, которых немцы покрывали и поддерживали после войны.
Thanks for the translation, I was wondering...
@Eternally Righteous ¿Extrañas mucho al chiflado del bigotito?
@Eternally Righteous there were lots of germans who hated the nazis and knew what had happened. My grandpa was one of those whl knew.
This is one of the first and one of the most famous graffities of munich. And it was written on an signficant wall. At the place in front of the monument, hitler tried on 11.9.1923 his coup and had been arrested there. After 1933 this place become nearly a religious meaning to the nazis. At the monument had been soldiers as a hohor guard. And every person that passed the place had to greet in the way of hitler greeting. People they dont act this way, got serious trouble
Hi there, would I be allowed to use this footage in a documentary on my channel? I will credit you in my bibliography, thanks :)
I was in Munich in 67 and 68. I had a chance to enjoy it. I know that a lot has changed now.
Jep it did changed,....best time in munich 60ies 70ies to mid 80ies.
:)
@@glory2thehighest254 I agree, but I'm not sure if it's not the 60s to mid80s, but the age we were there and our distorted memory (which happens to everyone and is unavoidable).
How devastated was it still then in the 60s ? Much had been rebuilt ?
@@frankmontez6853 It was already rebuild in the 60's.
My father ended the war here, 759 Military Police Bn. Long road to get here, North Africa, Road to Rome, Invasion of Southern France, up to Saint Di France, then in to Germany ending in Munich. As a Military Policeman, he was in Dachau but would never speak of it, other then you had to push bodies into a grave, because they fell apart if you attempted to carry them.
Wahnsinnig gute Aufnahmen wenn man bedenkt wie lange das her ist.
Sollte man in jedem Geschichtsunterricht zeigen ☝🏻
Nicht gesehen im Geschichtsunterricht? Ich schon, Hambrug Dresden, München, die Filme von den KZ-Befreiungen...Und ich reg mich schon darüber auf, dass damals in den 1970ern das 3. Reich so huschhusch in Geschichte behandelt wurde. Mit Pippinen und Ottonen wurden wir gefühlt 2 Jahre gequält, das 3. Reich hatten wir in maximal 2 Monaten durch.
@@besenwieslersepp1011 schlechte Nachrichten
Das huscht heute noch schneller!
@@Optimismus53 Das sind wirklich schlechte Nachrichten
At 16:40 the sign shows a Rainbow and the number 42. That is from the US Army 42nd Rainbow Division which my father was with. They went from Munich to Dachau.
From one Joe C. to another, your father was a hero!!!
Thanks for that info!
Amazing footage
08:15 - I can identify almost everything in this film. Here, I'm having trouble. Is this Rotkreuzplatz?
Could be Arnulfstr./Luisenstr. - which was replaced in the 60s by an ugly high-rise?
@@ulicadluga I think this is Karlsplatz facing towards Central Station along Bayerstraße. The narrow building still exists.
@@tpm2056 Thank you. Of course, it is the fork of Bayerstrasse and Schützenstrasse - as seen from Karlsplatz.
Wow. I didn't immediately recognise it - even though I used to go to "Foto-Pini" all the time from the 70s.
Amazing to see all these U.S. Army trucks and jeeps going by. I even found pictures of a "Pzkw. V Panther tank", captured by the Americans in front of this building. 😊
9:08 look at the men on the right who looks at the camera and then to the left the men in a white suit! Are they twins or just randome?
Na, like most bavarians over 50 look like that, the guy that trained me my at my job looks like that too.
No, Sir. It's called long term associational Genes. Generations and generations of similar indivuals reprodution and you end up having almost the same genes as your relatives. Just like asians do look all the same in some aspects. Be well!
Most old men and women look the same , especially in those days.....
No that’s just the Herzog twins. They haven’t spoken in ten years. One joined the Democratic Socialists and the other was Socialist Democrat!
Hola desde Lima Perú,interesante histórico vídeo. Es admirable el resurgimiento de Alemania. Mi hija menor estudió el Post Grado en la Universidad Técnica de Munich TUM, Está casada con un joven científico alemán egresado de la misma universidad, fué reconocido el año 2018 como primer científico de la Unión Europea. Admiro mucho al pueblo alemán. Gracias por el video.
Fantastic material for that time, probably super8 color.
This allied film was shot in 35mm (Kodakchrome)
That explains the relatively rich colors, used Kodachrome 50 a few times with my fotocamera.
I thought it was 16mm.
@@beerborn I believe 16mm was newsreel standard. Also what was taken into the field by both sides. 8mm is to low quality and grainy for something that's going to be shown in movie theaters. 35mm is to big, bulky, and heavy to drag around the field. 16mm hits a nice compromise between the two.
@@WildBikerBill You do see some 8mm footage of the war but it was regular 8mm, Super 8 wasn't developed until the 1960's.
*Yes, this is where it all started and ended up costing about 50 million lives. What a shame!*
I was in Munich (around Haar) in 1972.. It is so hard to believe that what a great change in so short time of period at all!..What type of people these Germans. How did they succeed this? How is it be possible? Does anybody know and can explain it?
@KokainuserOf course foreign workers are also important for that, but the main answer is, in my opinion, different.. One of the main and real answers is the power and capability of knowledge and engineering and also the ability of using these elements.. But, still this is not the answer for my question.. I ask for after so great destruction why Germany rise up so quickly in a very great discipline and why not any other country reached to this success yet? Why not France, Italy, Norway, England, Poland, Sweden, Turkey, and many more, etc ? As you know, there are so many German oriented trade marks in every field of Industry (Navigation, electronic, mechanic, chemistry, high technology in every field of manufacturing, CNC, computer, robot, and many more what ever you think).. We also know they were manufacturing airplanes in underground in Poland during WWII. I also have electromechanical background and know what these mean. Is there any other country which has more company names and successful all around the world than Germany? Isn't it worth to investigate? This is one of the many issues I'm interested and searching on these matters..
Emin Kulturel
The USA...which was 85% German decent at the time. Also USA taxes went to rebuild Germany.
England suffered terribly. The losing Nations were helped the most. Japan was rebuilt by the Americans. We wanted Japan and Germany to be erased of their dark leanings, so we occupied them until they were back on their own feet. We are only Nation in all of history who did this. We took nothing for our own...no “spoils of war”.
Then there was the Marshall Plan of 1947. Need I say more?
Wir lieben alle münchen!!!
@@Wanamaker1946 Excellent. Well done.
Krass, wenn man bedenkt wie modern und weltoffen die Stadt nur 27 Jahre später zu den Olympischen Spielen aussehen sollte.
heute 2024 nur Baustellen und bankrotte Fußgängerzonen Gschäfte ..
Feldherrnhalle on the left at 1:07
danke fürs Einstellen. Meine geliebte Heimatstadt
All of this destruction but today Munich looks amazing. No other people in the world would clean the rubble the same day it was bombed.
Millions of people died from starvation after WW2
W Polsce również zmarło miliony ludzi przez Niemców którzy najechali mój kraj.
Viva a Alemanha. Hoje é um país totalmente recuperado e que serve de bom exemplo pra o mundo.
Interesting that many buildings have camouflage netting to throw off the bombardier.
You won't see that in many other German cities at the time ....Munich was after all the Nazi home base .
18:48 where is this place?
Was ist das für ein Ort
Maximilianeum (bayrischer Landtag heute)
@@TheStyler2710 und wo ist das? 16:23
@@nico28zs92 Gasteig. Rosenheimer Str.
@@mcschwamm Danke! Ist nicht wieder zu erkennen der Ort.
I really don't understand why it was necessary to bomb these beautiful cities. I understand bombing war manufacturing plants, factories, railroads, airstrips, but not the classical buildings, homes, convents, cathedrals, abbeys, castles, monasteries, schools, town squares etc.
It was necessary in order to make the Germans understand that if they invaded other countries and destroyed their cities they would suffer the same and worse themselves. The plan worked. Germany has not invaded any of its neighbours since 1945. The country is no longer a menace to mankind.
Are you serious or out of your mind??? Go back and read history before making such comments.
Germans also did this to Polish, Dutch, Belgian and British cities.
Germany, a great country.
@@columbmurray *one
Men against Men. How foolish .
Andre Atkinson not just "men", but the ideas, actions and ideologies they represent!
@@xman4un You mean human stupidity? To try to bomb an idea is quite a mad thing to do.
@@aljoschalong625 Well said sir! I agree with Andre's point.
Government for you 💸💸🛐
Nowadays it is Women against Men ! Ahhh!
I was born in Munich in 1962, 17 years after the WW2.
Ok Boomer
Kommt es nur mir vor oder kann man am Anfang sehen dass der stadteil Au-Haidhausen fast komplett verschont blieb?
Do not let these Color Films fall into the Hands of The Man in The High Castle !
No more Brother Wars.
You sure bout that?
10:26 Sendlinger Tor?
Zoltan Szakacs isartorplatz
@@marseillex danke✌️
I guess it filmed in summer '46. Anyway great shots without any comments
26:12 soldier texting on his cellphone...
War would have been over quicker without those damn phones
I didn't realize that Munich was bombed. As a touist I recognize the Frauenkirche and Marienplatz immediately.
@Garret Petersen Yep, that´s the difference between US/AUS/NZ tourists and european tourists. We have far more clue about geography and history and inform ourselves upfront before travelling to a foreign country.
Sure. Most Germans I have known think they know more about the world than they do. Just because Germans watch American movies doesn't mean they know much about the US. They don't.
Wahooo. Danke dafür.
Azarius B für das Video denk ich.
ist der film mit einen negativ scanner eingescant oder ist er projeziert worden ?
Doesnt look quite as "liberated" as berlin
Fixed Face those are american soldiers if that's what you're looking at.
Someone talled me in Vienna:"We were lying on the ground, dead... but...liberated." No comment.
Seems like carpet bombing only destroyed the interior of the buildings not actual building itself !
The Allies bombed more in the north of Germany because that is where most of the industrial towns are.
How could people not see this outcome considering Hitler wrote a book explaining his intentions.
They thought they would win, and they nearly did. But Stalin defeated them.
@@ABC_DEF Plus those 24/7 Allied bombers.
@@ABC_DEFnot only Stalin you don’t know anything about ww2 if you think only the soviets defeated the Germans
@@lelequebecois9668 Of course I don't think that, but Soviet casualties massively outnumbered those of the western allies.
Have you read the book?
Beim Anblick der Zerstörungen kann man verstehen, daß es den Plan gab, München komplett aufzugeben,(die Ruinen als Mahnmal stehenzulassen) um in der Nähe des Starnberger Sees eine neue Stadt zu bauen.
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ich bin starnberger
@@fynnoleianson8802 stimmt doch was da steht
@@fynnoleianson8802 Sind Sie stolz auf den Holocaust oder was?
@@fynnoleianson8802 Das glaube ich garnicht mal.... Wenn man es auch der Sicht eines damaligen Deutschen betrachtet: Anfang der 30er Jahre vielleicht ein Jugendlicher, der Hitler lautstark zugerufen hat. Später voller Stolz und Überheblichkeit in den Krieg gezogen. Kam dann 1945 als Überlebender nach München und sah, was nun geschehen ist und das er auf Sand gebaut hatte.... Vielleicht war es genau so jemand, welcher diese Worte da hinschrieb...
8:40 currently going to the cafeteria inside this building
The bombing techniques we’re advancing, but that building sure felt the brunt of the effort
What was the logic behind carpet bombing of civilian targets???
No actual logic. Churchill originated the idea, however, cities like Dresden were not just bombed with conventional bombs from bombers overhead, but also with incendiary bombs which not only started buildings on fire but created whirlwinds that rose in temperature and even melted the asphalt of the streets. Many civilians died trying to run across streets to flee burning buildings only to be trapped in the melting asphalt where they burst into flames. The British and American bombing of Dresden should be considered a war crime.
Albert E. because german troops where everywhere. they bombed the areas troops where known to be.
michael ehrenreich there actually was a plan to it...demoralization! To subject the urban heartland to mass casualties for supporting Nazi Germany, was supposed to send home a very, clear message. Now, the allies, England in particular, stated that there were industrial targets of interest to the German war machine that they were after...which we know is bullocks!
The logic is that the Anglo-Saxons never loosen their grip when their opponent is down on the knees. They always tend to hit the knelt down to death. You are lucky to deal with the Russians when you deal with us, because we quickly forget the harmd you do to us
it was meant to demoralize the german ppl.
it used to be so cozy with the big old trees....all gone now for buildings....
Der Bürgerbräukeller hat´s ihnen besonders angetan...
...vielleicht ein Genießer?
vonpfrentsch Bürgerbräukeller was converted to a U.S. servicemen’s club at that time. Recall using the library there quite often.
@@eugenebabitchev9549 Ah, OK. I now understand why it is shown this often in the documentary movie.
History in the face does not increase in the news and in the interior look and achieve
11:44 I am watching this video right now exactly in the street you can see there
On your phone?
Man this city is better then any other
München, Meine Heimatstadt.
Das waren noch Immobilienpreise
Restauriert und renoviert für eine Million Tote. Deal or no deal?
Look at these places today more modern then the countries that conquered them.
i was at the hof brau house in 1983 i didnt now it was that old
Es ist echt surreal dies zu sehen.. München meine lieblings Stadt so zertrümmert und diese Worte "ich schäme mich dass ich ein Deutscher bin" hits hard..
Whoever wrote that should added the rape of 2 million woman by the Red Army and the700,000 plus German civilians killed by allied bombers The mass rapes of Japanese woman on Okinawa by American GIs should not be forgotten
A great city rose from the ashes of such an evil gang of Nazis. Munich is a must for anyone with the slightest interest in history.
2:00 translation:
K.Z. Dachau -Velden-Buchenwald
I'm ashamed of being a German.
Please don’t say that. I am against ultra nationalism and think it is very bad, but I am proud of my family. All hard working Germans, decent people. I am sure your parents and grandparents were good people also, or are if they still live. You can be proud without being racist, proud without arrogance, proud without racism, in other words accept yourself. We can’t change the past but we can work to make a better future. Germany has done a lot to try to repair its image. Many other countries commit crimes and don’t care. When I was in Russia Stalin’s grace was full of flowers people would take everyday to honor him, he is responsible for 60million deaths. Germany does not honor Hitler.
I don't know Anthon, I see comments right here that disprove what you say...
@Sasuke Uchiha nope we have a boot to your neck. You're an occupied country, nothing more than an American vassal with autonomy.
@@anthondeutsch3133 Absolutely true. A large number of Germans even in WWII were not Nazis. And today, no country has followed the example of Germany to atone for its past failures. And every nation has its failures and crimes against humanity.
Mr and Mrs. Smith “Then” goes back hundreds of years, from Luther and years of antisemitism
The logistics of that war were mindboggling......
One of the reasons the nazis lost ten thousands during their murdering campaigns....There hardly were any facilities to bring wounded men back home from the eastern front...As Adolf stated ...."fight till death" while he was sipping tea in his bunker...
Although,.....the same nation that beat the nazis ,was (as part of the 1918 allied conglomerate) also instrumental to the fascist power grab.....
Super !!!!
Nigdy więcej wojny!
So sad for Beautiful city was destroyed by war
Yes, it wasn’t necessary..
Smutno to jest że Polska została zniszczona przez Niemców.
10.30 Isartor
0:00 Merkwürdig: Ganze Blocks ohne sichtbare Schäden. Bzw. viele Häuser mit intaktem Dach und das daneben ziemlich zerstört
Das hat mich auch gewundert, da gebe ich Dir recht.
Ja, das fällt wirklich auf. Ich hätte mir gedacht, dass im Stadtzentrum fast nichts mehr steht und je weiter man rausfährt desto intakter ist die Stadt dann geblieben. Teile des Münchener Stadtzentrums haben scheint's weniger 'abbekommen' als z.B. die Berliner Stadtmitte. Da stehen ja am Kriegende nur noch Ruinen herum. Wenn ein Haus weg ist, der Block ansonsten aber noch steht, dann nehme ich an, dass das ein direkter Treffer einer Sprengbombe war. Das wirklich Destruktive in diesem Bombenkrieg waren aber die millionenfach abgeworfenen Stabbrandbomben, die tausende Brände auslösten, die man nicht mehr löschen konnte. Und Berlin hat dann im April 1945 noch massiven Artilleriebeschuss abbekommen (was in München auch nicht der Fall war).
@@paulsanders9262 Stimmt.Ich bin geb.Münchner. Man muss natürlich schon sagen daß vor allem die Maxvorstadt(ca. Hbf. bis ElisabethStr.(N/S) u.DachauerStr. bis LudwigStr.(W/O) ziemlich ausradiert wurde.
Also das ist das "HD" von dem alle sprechen?
Da sahen Berlin und Köln schlimmer aus.. wobei man sagen muss dass München ja "nur" bombardiert wurde und sehr groß ist. Gute Filmaufnahmen, wunderschöne Stadt
Hamburg und Dresden wurde viel schlimmer bombardiert
@@samanli-tw3id Dresden hat es auch schlimm erwischt.. oder Pforzheim. zumindest sind das die deutschen Städte.. Stalingrad, clydebank und Coventry wurden ja auch schwer weggebombt.. Von Tokyo und den Atombomben ganz zu schweigen.. Oder die Französischen Städte der Normandie.. von ihren eigenen Verbündeten ausgebombt
viele gebäude ohne überdachung,
kein auto auf der straße,
quite neat city indeed
6:38 ich sehe ein Auto
Almost totally unscathed, compared to the other German cities.
Terry Plew munich is in Germany. guessing you meant to add "other".
Jane Renee Of course. I corrected it.
Because Munich is in Bavaria
also auch wenn man sich die Gebäude mal nicht beschädigt vorstellt, man erkennt ja fast nichts wieder
Uranos 96 dann bist du blind Mann erkennt vieles trotzt das alles zerstört war Isar Tor z.b Königsplatz dann bei Isar .. oder am stachus und hbf ich weis nicht wie du das nicht erkennst ??‘
Wenn du nichts erkennst dann bist du kein Münchener
K.Z. Dachau - Velden - Buchenwald, ich schäme mich, daß ich ein Deutscher bin."
Man muss sich nicht mehr schämen ein Deutscher zu sein.
Sie sollten sich nur dann schämen, wenn Sie für eine der Schweinerein der NAZI-Diktatur Sympathie empfänden oder gar verantwortlich wären. Offenbar ist das nicht der Fall, also müssen Sie sich auch nicht schämen.
Menschen pauschal für etwas zu verurteilen, auch sich selbst als Deutscher, ist nämlich das eigentliche Problem. Die Deutschen, die Juden, die Amerikaner gibt es nicht. Es gibt nur einzelne Menschen und ihre Taten. Von daher ist es falsch, sich als Deutscher für etwas zu schämen, das man als Individuum nicht zu verantworten hat. Genauso falsch ist es, Flüchtlingen pauschal zu unterstellen, dass sie in unserem Land nur Böses vorhaben. Diese Leute sind in ihrer Mehrheit weder Messermänner oder Terroristen noch wollen sie uns umvolken. Das sind Hetzpatolen von Neonazis, die uns Anhgst machen wollen, damit wir sie als "Retter" in die Regierung wählen. Darauf sollte niemand reinfallen. AFD, NPD, Die Rechte und wie sie alle heißen sind die Rattenfänger der Moderne, die nur eine Sprache verstehen: den Arschtritt.
Burger brau keller is really where Hitler and the Nazis started.
No computers, no cell phones. How did they survive?
Simply without computer and cell phone.
Try it!
It is really possible!
What a stupid question.
Their pet mammoths rescued them
But Elvis Presley will go to Germany almost at the end in 1958. 😐
Und heute die reichste Stadt Deutschland
Um 3 Uhr morgens am Hauptbahnhof unterwegs sein und sich sicher fühlen - unbezahlbar.
@Michael Collins Das stimmt, es ist ein wachsendes Problem. Zwar verdienen hier viele Menschen auch sehr gut, aber wir haben ein Problem wenn normale Polizeibeamte, Krankenschwestern, Erzieher etc. nicht mehr in der Stadt leben können. Zur Entlastung sind viele infrastrukturelle Schritte nötig, Verkehrsreformen, schnellerer Ausbau des S-Bahn Netzes, neue Zentren außerhalb des Stadtkerns bilden etc.
Ja,, München weiss, wie man Geld macht. Die Menschen dazu haben wir genug und spielen absolut keine Rolle, weil wir haben sie mehr als genug. In Muc haben wir alles mehr als genug, aber wehe, es begehrt einer auf.
@@erichloidfelder1931 Ich rate zu einem Arztbesuch, Sie sind ein bisschen durcheinander.
@@danielfunke4747 ist das wirklich noch so?
Drones in 1945?
Plane?
Wonder if some American GIs brought back Bavarian mugs, pretzels, frankfurters, mustard & beer. ' Look ma' a GI returning at the end of 1945 'I brought big pretzels & Bavarian mugs from Germany'😜😜
Die Ruhe nach dem Sturm
"The Spirit of Liberation"????? Soll das ein Witz sein???
so sad 😌😌
I am an American and every time I see videos of the destruction of German cities I feel sad. All done for what?...Prevention of the prevention of the Bolsheviks conquering Europe, who then conquered half of it. And who then became the enemies of the preventers of the preventers.
Yeah, sure. I suggest you ask the Poles, the Norwegians, the Danes, the Dutch, the French, the Greeks, and the peoples of the former Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and Soviet Union whether or not it was a good thing Nazi Germany lost WWII. Hell, ask any thinking American. (Just don't ask a far right nut job. They're psychotic and can't give an informed answer.)
Germany/Japan had to be stopped in ww2, no question there, but yes the thought of children being burnt up in fire raids is pretty horrific. Kids are kids, no matter the ancestry, and if anyone thinks a baby who can't even speak is a Nazi, they have a screw loose. That whole war devolved people into savages.
But you are right, for any country east of Germany the war was a loss, one flag was simply traded for another. We liberated France, Holland, _____, etc, booted the fascists from Germany/Italy, made Japan peaceful again, and say we "won" the war.
Well, we also handed over half of Europe to a lunatic dictator who took over every country he was allowed, crushed any resistance with brutal force, and killed millions in "work camps". Sound familiar? We went to war in Europe to stop one nutbar but replaced him with another, so did we really win? I would day we did it half right. Sure the Soveit Union finally fell 45 years later, but not before a whole pile of people bit the dust under "Uncle Joe's" reign.
To stop a murderous racist regime and free the Jewish people from those camps.
It was to prevent the Germans from doing the same again. And so far they haven't.
What about the grotesque crimes against humanity that were committed against millions of innocent people by the Germans? How do you feel about them???
Solders look healthy, not grossly overweight like today.
I wonder if Trump would help other countries like we did during WW2.
Trump .. 🙈
What a waste of life for what....If wouldn’t be for Russia USA and Britain I would speak German now
yeah there's three innocent countries right there
If it wasn't for Hitler, you probably would be speaking German
Die viele Zerstörung schmerzt mich.
Und wir regen uns wegen Kleinigkeiten auf ...
Munich was quite far from England
Patrick guernsey Still is.
not far enough,
Until Americans occupied Italy
Befreiung...
Meine oma ist 1898 auf der weit meine Opa ist 1936