Bummer, chat gpt says its not legal to do what's described around 5:45 because it doesn't count as a new performance (whats needed to qualify as a cover) and is a derivative work since it uses the original copyright material
@@Mavesound Audimee requires a decent quality input vocal. They do say this upfront. From.my experience it takes the work out of polishing and making it a pro take.
I tried SynthV or whatever by Dreamtonics and was pleasantly surprised but not many vocalists to choose from. Audimee send to have more to offer. In definitely NOT a fan of releasing songs with AI voices but as a demo tool i can get behind it. I sing but i can't sing loudly in my house because of elderly parents and my wife working at home. This would be a godsend actually.
It's all great, but you still need the initial voice record with emotions, articulations etc. The real game changer will happen when you can create the humanlike singer record from scratch, like "text to voice record". Eleven Labs already provides that for speech. Looking forward for the same just for acapella.
Next level would be if they made it into a plug-in (maybe call it AI-apella). Logic Audio has a virtual drummer & piano players as AI tools built in. But I am sure what would delay something like this would be the legalities behind it. Just like when Samplers became cheaper in the early 90's, vocal acapella's started to disappear from 12" vinyl releases due to copyright infringements.
I think it’s important to address the topic „what is a cover vs what is a remix?“. Saying you could just cover a voice doesn’t make the song a cover. However looking at a lot of hypertechno covers being released aren’t really covers as well. Would just be interesting to know what point you have to cross that it could be infringing rights
I need an AI that listens to my track and come up with vocal ideas (melodies and lyrics, based on my input). This one, if not mistaken, you have to have a perfect vocal track already if not mistaken.
@5.50 your are incorrect. IF you use AI to change a recorded accapella, that accapella is a master recording as such and under copyright. Any derivative work would need pre-appoval from the master owner, typically labels. The publishing copyright is a separate thing. Stop talking about this if your are clueless as you only mislead people doing copyright infringements.
I think you do not get what the AI is doing. it's not changing the master > it is recreating it same as a human would sing it again. I'm with you that it's complicated and we need new clear rules but with the existing ones it it allowed.
@@Jonsine I know exactly what the AI do and I have made my own RVC banks too. I know copyright law quite well too. You cannot do derivative work from a recording. Pure and simple. It is the law. Find copyright lawyers if you so wish and ask them...
@@Jonsine AI is doing the same thing cover artist does, but it is not a cover artist. It does not really perform the song. It is software into which you input the original master, and it outputs the "cover".
You've made a lot of really useful videos over the years that have helped me, but AI really isn't the same as other advancements. All this is good for is even further homogenizing popular music with songs optimized to be inoffensive for the widest appeal by people who don't give a crap about the process of making music, who never had a passion for it, but just opportunists who want money in the easiest and fastest way possible. A "tool" that allows you to create a whole song with zero effort is not a tool, it's a musician in your pocket that you don't have to pay or interact with. It's the same thing whether you use it for a whole song or just a single part or instrument. And as a bonus, nobody consented to have their songs stolen to create the database for these AIs, and there is no way to revoke your consent because the creators of the AIs have zero principles. I hope it gets outlawed in some way, or some other approach to try to minimize the harm this does.
I started experimenting with suno etc for 3 months. Never before I wa so creative and inspired. I see AI Music like a tool. If you know how to use it, you got fantastic results, inspirationwuse. But if you wanna use it seriously the time you need to complete a Song does not differ from the time if you compose everything b yourself. To get a usable result (for example to layout an arrangement for already existing lyrics) you need about 50-60 generations, that will easely distract you befor there is one that nails it. But its amazing how AI learns with every new generation. At the End I will take the result as a "Demo with nice Ideas" and produce the Song traditionally. So. Its like a Tyros or Genos on Crack.
Honestly AI doesn't change anything in the real music business :) the low profile producers who upload faceless songs all over streaming platforms, will still remain faceless (with our without AI). The real artists backed and trained by big companies (and their investments) who are young, fresh, look great, sing great, present themself great will always win and dominate in music with huge numbers. Old dudes, producing songs in the basements will still remain just producers. No matter if they were slow before without AI or now they are fast with AI. Still just dudes behind computers :)) .. Young audience at the live concert want to see the great looking artist (singer, group whatever). Nobody care about the AI songs on spotify, they are just useless noise. Lot of producers and musicians who didn't make it, should stop being delusional
Bummer, chat gpt says its not legal to do what's described around 5:45 because it doesn't count as a new performance (whats needed to qualify as a cover) and is a derivative work since it uses the original copyright material
Jon, I was watching your videos daily when this track was originally released. Time flies! Give your kid a hug!
Remember this as well from the daily vids
the crazy thing about this is you can sing into your phone and have it converted - no need for vocal booths or anything like that!
Ive used audimee and dreamtonics synth v for some sync work. Can get great results but it does sometimes take a little bit of trial and error
True, but recording original vocals THIS good takes a lot of trial and error takes either hahah
@@Mavesound Audimee requires a decent quality input vocal. They do say this upfront. From.my experience it takes the work out of polishing and making it a pro take.
Cool! Does this also work with German Vocals?
I tried SynthV or whatever by Dreamtonics and was pleasantly surprised but not many vocalists to choose from. Audimee send to have more to offer. In definitely NOT a fan of releasing songs with AI voices but as a demo tool i can get behind it. I sing but i can't sing loudly in my house because of elderly parents and my wife working at home. This would be a godsend actually.
It's all great, but you still need the initial voice record with emotions, articulations etc. The real game changer will happen when you can create the humanlike singer record from scratch, like "text to voice record". Eleven Labs already provides that for speech. Looking forward for the same just for acapella.
*Eleven Labs
Next level would be if they made it into a plug-in (maybe call it AI-apella). Logic Audio has a virtual drummer & piano players as AI tools built in. But I am sure what would delay something like this would be the legalities behind it. Just like when Samplers became cheaper in the early 90's, vocal acapella's started to disappear from 12" vinyl releases due to copyright infringements.
I think it’s important to address the topic „what is a cover vs what is a remix?“. Saying you could just cover a voice doesn’t make the song a cover. However looking at a lot of hypertechno covers being released aren’t really covers as well. Would just be interesting to know what point you have to cross that it could be infringing rights
I need an AI that listens to my track and come up with vocal ideas (melodies and lyrics, based on my input). This one, if not mistaken, you have to have a perfect vocal track already if not mistaken.
So I released a song like this a year ago, and was flagged, systems know when AI is used unfortunately and they dont like it!
was the entire song AI?
@@Daddytang67 just the vocal
really? What platform/website was it flagged on? Also were you using an already popular vocal?
I'mma flag their systems as ai.
Love it
I am wathcing youy when you had only 800 subs. Time fliessssssssss
Nice!
cool video!
@5.50 your are incorrect. IF you use AI to change a recorded accapella, that accapella is a master recording as such and under copyright. Any derivative work would need pre-appoval from the master owner, typically labels.
The publishing copyright is a separate thing. Stop talking about this if your are clueless as you only mislead people doing copyright infringements.
I think you do not get what the AI is doing. it's not changing the master > it is recreating it same as a human would sing it again. I'm with you that it's complicated and we need new clear rules but with the existing ones it it allowed.
@@Jonsine I know exactly what the AI do and I have made my own RVC banks too. I know copyright law quite well too. You cannot do derivative work from a recording. Pure and simple. It is the law. Find copyright lawyers if you so wish and ask them...
@@Jonsine AI is doing the same thing cover artist does, but it is not a cover artist. It does not really perform the song. It is software into which you input the original master, and it outputs the "cover".
You've made a lot of really useful videos over the years that have helped me, but AI really isn't the same as other advancements. All this is good for is even further homogenizing popular music with songs optimized to be inoffensive for the widest appeal by people who don't give a crap about the process of making music, who never had a passion for it, but just opportunists who want money in the easiest and fastest way possible. A "tool" that allows you to create a whole song with zero effort is not a tool, it's a musician in your pocket that you don't have to pay or interact with. It's the same thing whether you use it for a whole song or just a single part or instrument. And as a bonus, nobody consented to have their songs stolen to create the database for these AIs, and there is no way to revoke your consent because the creators of the AIs have zero principles. I hope it gets outlawed in some way, or some other approach to try to minimize the harm this does.
I started experimenting with suno etc for 3 months. Never before I wa so creative and inspired. I see AI Music like a tool. If you know how to use it, you got fantastic results, inspirationwuse. But if you wanna use it seriously the time you need to complete a Song does not differ from the time if you compose everything b yourself. To get a usable result (for example to layout an arrangement for already existing lyrics) you need about 50-60 generations, that will easely distract you befor there is one that nails it. But its amazing how AI learns with every new generation. At the End I will take the result as a "Demo with nice Ideas" and produce the Song traditionally.
So. Its like a Tyros or Genos on Crack.
100 percent right!! AI will be just another tool for the producers...regards
Honestly AI doesn't change anything in the real music business :) the low profile producers who upload faceless songs all over streaming platforms, will still remain faceless (with our without AI). The real artists backed and trained by big companies (and their investments) who are young, fresh, look great, sing great, present themself great will always win and dominate in music with huge numbers. Old dudes, producing songs in the basements will still remain just producers. No matter if they were slow before without AI or now they are fast with AI. Still just dudes behind computers :)) .. Young audience at the live concert want to see the great looking artist (singer, group whatever). Nobody care about the AI songs on spotify, they are just useless noise. Lot of producers and musicians who didn't make it, should stop being delusional