Philadelphia Route 56 Trolley - Run Past Scenes - 1991
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- This is a presentation of run-past scenes on Route 56 Trolley in Philadelphia. Scenes were filmed in the area from Torresdale & Cottman to 5th & Erie in 1991. Trolley operation on Route 56 was discontinued in 1992.
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Crazy watching this. I actually never knew there was a trolley there. Down on Erie ave i would see the tracks but I never put 2 and 2 together and realized that the Torresdale and cottoman loop was probably a trolley before. Seeing it cross harbison ave is so strange to me bc I legit do not recall anything ever being there. Great video.
HI Grammatical Chainsaw, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Route 56 trolley began running between 23-Venango and Torresdale-Cottman in 1928 and did so as a trolley until 1992. Since then, there have been whispers of reinstating it as a trolley, but I'm not holding my breath. They were quick to pave the tracks over on Torresdale Avenue, and it would be very un-Philadelphia like to undo that. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebazYeah, really sad. There are many perks of trolleys over bus and vice versa. I am glad to have lived in one of the few North American cities where some trolleys still were in service. It is really a shame to see that so much was destroyed for the sake if the automobile. Hopefully things improve as the calls to modernize America's transportation grow but like you said, I am not too optimistic lol. Have a great one.
😁😃 I ABSOLUTELY ADORE THIS time OF Philadelphia's transit system.. An SEEING THE Trolleys pass by MY 🏡 & 🏫 👍 👍😊💞... THANKYOU Ever Soooooooooooooo VERY MUCH FOR THE AWESOME WONDERFUL & FABULOUS MEMORIES✌
Hi Taurus-Astrobike, Thanks for watching and for your comment. It was the end of a great era in Philadelphia transportation. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation and appreciate your kind words. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thanks so much for uploading this! It's great to see what everyday life looked like in my hometown way back in the early 90s. (Before I was born) All those old cars, storefronts that have since closed down, lack of dilapidation, even people wearing those 90s clothes. Its great! Never delete this. It will be a gem in the 2030s :)
Hi The Mouse, Thanks for watching and for your comment. As long as UA-cam is around, it'll be there for viewing. Sometimes the streetscapes and backgrounds are as interesting as the vehicles. Glad you enjoyed it. Have a look at my Route 66 trackless presentation to see what things looked like over on Frankford Avenue. Regards, tassiebaz.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I used to ride this line, EVERY TIME I went to my Grandmother's home from virtually birth (1975), to the VERY LAST DAY, this line was in revenue service... GREAT WORK!
Hi litephaze, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to send those kind words. I am glad you enjoyed the presentation and that it brought back some pleasant memories. Regards, tassiebaz.
Priceless footage, thanks for uploading
Hi Wins and Losses, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I like the $1.13 gas😀 . Wonderful nostalgic video!
Hi Rawvision, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Nothing like the good old days, is there. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
It's hard to believe this was more than 30 years ago!
Hi Michael, Agreed, where does time go? Seems like just yesterday. Cheers, tassiebaz.
They should restore the 56 trolley.
I don’t think they are going to restore the 23 and it would have to run out of Midvale and the 56 We Can Just Forget About.
There are lots of reasons not to restore though. Getting stuck behind one of these trolleys sucks and in many places the trolley is in the middle of the street and it's dangerous getting off the trolley in these places. Since they tore up all the tracks, it might make sense to relocate the tracks so that you are not exiting the trolley into a lane of moving traffic! These trolleys don't perform well in icy conditions (which, granted are not that common in Philly). The 66 is still a trackless trolley. I think they combine the efficiency and quietness of electric drives with the comfort of riding on tires. If you are really yearning to ride the trolley, there is always the Girard ave line and all of the trolleys in West Philly. There are still like 8 lines running on tracks in West and South West Philly.
They don't have the funding , they to all of our trolleys from North Philadelphia 😀
North Philadelphia needs a underground trolley system 🚊
They took all of our trial is from North Philadelphia miss them all I hope they give us an underground trolley system for North Philadelphia if they don't I'm going to start building one myself and go after my dreams I'm putting a transportation company together nothing but all the trial is awesome huh. I want to take the name ptc or ptr from septa history.
19:44. D and Erie was always an awesome place to watch the cars on the 56 blend in with what was still somewhat of an industrial corridor along the end of Erie Avenue that ran through Philadelphia's Juniata neighborhoods.
Hi Christopher, I always enjoyed the stretch between Whitaker and Erie and Kensington and Erie, and also the stretch on lower Torresdale Avenue between Frankford and Orthodox because the streetcars would really move at high speeds. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Nice video! Thanks for posting!!’
Hi drippinglass, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. Regards, tassiebaz.
As much as I love the PCC-IIs (today’s Route 15 stock), I keep searching for videos on the vehicles in their white livery before their 1992 removal. Though I was born and raised in Philly, I was taught to stay out of the Northeast as I had no business there, so unlike the 15 and the 23 I NEVER rode the 56 line before the PCCs were replaced by Neoplans and NABI boxes (my most-hated SEPTA vehicles are the loud, boxy NABIs that apparently SEPTA hated as well!). Anyway, I noticed that the neighborhoods - compared to your video regarding the 15 - are NICE! I can understand why SEPTA decided on the 15 getting the heritage treatment (the zoo, easier to bring back, commercial revitalization efforts along Girard), but imagine the 56 running today with PCC-IIs!
Hi Lone Wolf, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Shame you didn't get to ride Rt 56 as a trolley. They moved right along on the section of Erie east of Front, and also on Torresdale from Frankford to Orthodox, especially on a Kansas City car. Many of
neighborhoods were more industrial than residential. You've probably already seen my Rt 15 and 23 pre-1992 presentations with some white PCCs. If not, please have a look. I think the decision to use PCCIIs on the 15 (not sure if it was SEPTA's decision), was the location of Callowhill depot and the fact that Rt 10 would continue to run from there. It would have been nice to see Rt 56 (or even 23) run with PCCIIs, but the (lack of) depot situation at Luzerne and Germantown would have caused logistics problems, so 15 was the logical (and probably default) choice.
Of course, if Philadelphia was San Francisco, they would have run PCCs on Market Street, then along the waterfront up to the Casino. Obviously I'm dreaming, but at least you can still ride the PCCs in San Francisco (I've got a few presentations on UA-cam), Kenosha (I've got one presentation), and Boston-Mattapan (no presentation yet from me. Maybe one day). Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz there actually are preliminary plans for a trolley line on delaware ave to be operated by patco but needless to say would be operated by modern light rail vehicles. there are still obstacles that need to be overcome though; mainly funding and freight use of the median tracks on delaware ave. but hopefully in the next 10-15 years
Hi@@respect411, At the rate things happen in Philadelphia, I wouldn't be holding my breath. We're all still waiting for the extension of the Norristown High Speed Line to King of Prussia and the Northeast subway. We'll all keep hoping though. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz youre absolutely right. im worried about trolley modernization with all of the covid funding issues septa has. we already lost 2 regional rail lines likely for good as im sure u know. love your work btw
@@respect411 Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me you enjoy my videos.
Philadelphia can be a frustrating place for those of us interested in public transport. Lots of words, but not too much action (except negative things that happen.) Cheers.
How dare they terminate such a good trolley route
Hi Tyrone, Agreed but, unfortunately, it wasn't the only trolley line that was terminated in this way. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I don't remember the cars being so old in 1991.
That's cause most of the cars being driven in 1991 were still from the 70s and 80s.
Only saw a ‘71-‘73 Mustang that looked cool. All the rest was crusher food.
Was this shot on film or video? My guess would be video. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Petworth Traction Co. This was shot with video. Regards, tassiebaz.
every city in the country should lookinto this type of trolly service as their light rail service this was the way to get from point a to point b without alot of polution.
Hi Frank, Thanks for watching and for your insightful comment. Sadly, many cities had this form of transport at least until the end of World War 2. Then most decided to abandon it in favor of buses and roads. Then, in the 70s, a renaissance began and many cities began restoring and/or creating new "light rail" lines, and the trend has picked up speed. We'll just hope this keeps up with new lines opening regularly. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
LUZERNE DEPOT is gone. No where to store the trolleys. Never no more return for ROUTE 56 trolleys , Same for ROUTE 23
Hi Steve, It's a miracle the 15 is still running. Regards, tassiebaz.
19:00 or 19:02 . That bass and those bells on that 2163 (2183)?
Hi Christopher, Thanks again for watching and your attentiveness to detail. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I had forgotten about the Wendy's across from NC...
Hi Tom, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sometimes the background streetscapes bring back some good memories. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Did SEPTA occasionally run K-cars on the 53 and 56? I know they did and now do, since the line was reopened, on the 15.
Hi brett8706, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I have no knowledge nor could find any information that K cars ran on the 53 and 56. That doesn't mean that they didn't get out there. I did find something that showed them on route 23, and I know they occasionally were on route 15 when that route first reopened. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
22:44. That SEPTA Neoplan bus though
Thanks again, tassiebaz.
Прикольный резвый старый трамвайчик. И цвет хорошо подобран. Приятно смотреть
И никто не пытается объехать трамвай,запипикать, уважительно относятся
I saw a Scruff McGruff and COPS tv show billboard!
Hi My Own Path, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sometimes the streetscape and background are as interesting as the vehicles. Regards, tassiebaz.
What were the destination tags for route 56?
Hi Jean, By "tags", if you mean what the destination signs were, they read:
Eastbound: Torresdale-Cottman
Westbound: 23-Venango
Depot Trips: 10-Erie
Hope this answers your question. If not, please let me know.
oo/woo
this is the short oo sound
Thanks for watching. tassiebaz.
Roy Rogers!❤️
Hi donkey boy, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Fascinio for tram am , train , trolley ...
Think it was back in the 1970's that Bachman plastics whose factory was on Erie Avenue stopped a route 56 trolley and took loads of pictures .They even used a step ladder. They made a very accurate model that they sold for a year or two until the company that owns the SEPTA logo threatened to sue them. I was in the Bachman factory a few times when Wylie and Green had me disconnect a couple of injection molding machines that they used to make plastic Ville houses for Bachman for 2 years until scum bags sent dies over to communist china to have the sweat shops there make them. Used to ride the route 56 while going to North Catholic. Were always late when it rained but ran better when it snowed. Back in earlyv1959's some trollies had a person stationed at rear doors to collect fares. Can remember seeing a foot diameter steel plate on floor where collection box was bolted to. Had to take SEPTA or the extra slow city 10 years to finally remove tracks after they replaced this route with buses.
Hi garbo, I hadn't thought about those rear door conductors in years.
I think that there is still plenty of track on Erie Avenue. Torresdale Avenue got the paving, at least down to Frankford Avenue. Probably some politician lives up there. Cheers, tassiebaz.
Shame they built new tracks and stops then stopped using the trolley shortly after...
Hi kiegeez, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I believe they did they same thing on parts of Route 23. Regards, tassiebaz.
22:02 2nd and Erie
Hi Tyrone, You are correct. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
We're Love Too See Change SEPTA could have the Northeast Center City South Philly subway Surface Trolleys Line Extension Local And Express Peak Rush Hours With PCC Trolleys Cars And Light Rail Vehicles All At Same Times
19:00
Thanks. Cheers, tassiebaz.
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this is the ee sound
Thanks for watching. tassiebaz.
As I said, septa always downgrading a lot
Hi Tyrone, It started with SEPTA's predecessor, the PTC in the mid-50s. SEPTA is just finishing the job. Cheers, tassiebaz.
I like the Kawasaki cars better.
Hi Anna, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Too bad they didn't have more Kawasaki cars so they could have run them on the 56 and the 23. The Kawasaki cars have really held up well. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.