Will it Freeze Dry? - CONDIMENTS - (18 kinds) in a Harvest Right Freeze Dryer

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  • @chris2906
    @chris2906 2 роки тому +7

    You need to put them directly on the trays in a thin layer. Then what works you have to grind into a fine powder before you rehydrate them and use the correct amount of water. The way Tod do it is measure it wet before, freeze dry it and measure after then you know the weight of water to add back. Many of these items that aren’t oil based actually freeze dry really well that way.

  • @yugbe
    @yugbe 5 років тому +40

    I think the entire batch was tainted by the oil. As the water left some of the items, the oil soaked up into it. I think you should retest removing the obvious bad guys, or use different containers/separators to keep the oil from soaking up into the other samples.
    Please?

  • @AngiesPantry58
    @AngiesPantry58 7 років тому +9

    I love that you guys are trying so many things in the freeze dry.... Keep up the awesome trails. Thank you all for doing this. Some day when I can afford a Freeze dryer.. I will know what I can & can't do! :)

  • @johnshipe7045
    @johnshipe7045 7 років тому +3

    Funnest Freeze-Dry Experiment so far!

  • @nerys71
    @nerys71 4 роки тому +4

    I think the lime juice worked fine. Lime juice will freeze dry into a crystaline structure (which looks like what you got) I think the sticky came from something else (like the mayo) not the lime juice. it SHOULD FD into "almost nothing" as it is almost entirely water (it is VERY strong so it does not take much to make it work)

  • @kimmididwhat
    @kimmididwhat 7 років тому +29

    If you had used silicone instead of paper, the oil would've never ruined the rest.
    The lime juice worked, it becomes crystalized without the oil. (I've done lime and lemon)
    Not failures..., you learned from them... 😀

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +5

      Thanks for the inputs! So Lime and Lemon worked OK for you. Good to know. Kind of a polluted test but we will keep pressing on with inputs like yours!

    • @kimmididwhat
      @kimmididwhat 7 років тому +4

      EpicenterBryan yup, best if frozen in tray and they both will be super duper concentrated and very thin on the tray after cycle... You'll need to scrape with spatula and get in a mason jar or mylar really quick because they absorb the moisture in the air really fast. Always happy to help. How lucky we are to have this option. I'd been looking at commercial FD'ers since 2007, but didn't want to spend $30,000 plus on one.
      When I found Harvestright2 yrs ago, I jumped... Fast... 😀😀😀

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +2

      What is your most liked Freeze Drying experience? What really made your day?

    • @kimmididwhat
      @kimmididwhat 7 років тому +5

      EpicenterBryan
      FD'd Chili, FD's Stouffer Lasagna,(there's a trick to doing this) and FD's Häagen Dazs Coffee Ice Cream Scoops. Yummo!!! Oh yeh, Raw eggs...you'll never eat powdered eggs again... 😀😀😀

    • @PreppingAngel
      @PreppingAngel 7 років тому +4

      Can you use silicone inside the unit or does it get too hot and too cold? I've seen some people use the Silpat mats.

  • @deborahelliott8460
    @deborahelliott8460 6 років тому +2

    This is a very good test actually. This is why you can freeze dry diced tomatoes (fresh) and grind to a powder and make your own ketchup.

  • @johnellis4129
    @johnellis4129 9 місяців тому

    Franks hot sauce does very well dehydrated. I mix it in with my Hooters brand flour mix for coating hot wings before frying. It also makes a great dry rub for chicken breasts on the grill & smoker.

  • @richardgray8593
    @richardgray8593 5 років тому +5

    "Will it Freeze Dry?" is so much more interesting and fun than "Will It Blend?"

  • @LivingBreadHomestead
    @LivingBreadHomestead 7 років тому +2

    Really enjoy watching y'alls videos. Keep them coming.

  • @donna5387
    @donna5387 5 років тому +3

    Would using the silicone cupcake liners work better?

  • @jeffmullins2163
    @jeffmullins2163 4 місяці тому

    Ive done ketchup and mustard both came out great

  • @RKBrumbelow
    @RKBrumbelow 2 роки тому +1

    Very late addition to the conversation:
    I found a 2022 academic article on free drying liquid smoke.
    One very different aspect was the use of maltodextrin to encapsulate the LS, but if anyone is interested in the article it can be found by searching for "Effects of Spray‐Drying and Freeze‐Drying on Bioactive and Volatile Compounds of Smoke Powder Food Flavouring" by Xing Xin, Sinemobong Essien · Kiri Dell, Meng Wai Woo, Saeid Baroutian. I would post the link, but UA-cam frown on such.

  • @PreppingAngel
    @PreppingAngel 7 років тому +3

    Ok, I've had it! lol I just ordered the large unit. ( Lay a Way) Darn you! I have been putting it off in buying one until mid summer but you all look like you are having so much fun! I really need one. My hubby is a long haul trucker and he can sure use good home cooked meals out there on the road. Plus I'm a homesteader as well as a prepper. :D That unit is going to be run a LOT! :D

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +2

      I sure love ours! Got lots of plans for it this summer too.

    • @PreppingAngel
      @PreppingAngel 7 років тому +1

      I have a HUGE garden. No more hard dehydrated veggies and fruits for us :D

    • @halfcrazyoldchristianredne895
      @halfcrazyoldchristianredne895 4 роки тому

      Just out of curiosity, how did it work out for you? I am looking at buying one.

  • @vdgitaliano
    @vdgitaliano 2 роки тому

    The more the salt content the quicker it thaws. The only way to check would be taking each one out right away and test it immediately. Things like soy sauce and worsteshire don't need to be dried, they last forever in the bottle and can't grow bacteria because of the axis and salt that's why they are used to make beef jerky, they preserve the meat.

  • @Joe.Rogan.
    @Joe.Rogan. 7 років тому +1

    Just curious.. the mustards and ketchup have a lot of vinegar in them.. would it be better to have a portion of the re hydrating liquid be vinegar for a better taste?

  • @seanwilliamson9600
    @seanwilliamson9600 7 років тому +1

    By the way, I did this type of test two weeks ago with plastic cups and dixie cups (what I had lying around). DON'T USE PLASTIC CUPS. The tray heat will melt the plastic even at such lower chamber temperatures, doy.
    Different hot sauces work differently. Sriracha seemed to work better than Frank's Red Hot in my test. Try comparing those two. Honey Dijon mustard came out well too. Sugars tend to crystallize, vinegars evaporate, and fats are just bad news.

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +2

      Thanks for the inputs. We will try some other hot sauces at some point. So much to try!

  • @noahleng3701
    @noahleng3701 7 років тому +6

    thanks guys ... very useful :)

  • @susanhunter8272
    @susanhunter8272 3 роки тому

    Another prepper added 3 cups water to one cup ketchup and to one cup Sweet Baby Rays. He said it was good and it looked good too. He ground it into a powder and mixed with water to reconstitute. You might try it the next time you experiment.

  • @carlathornton5751
    @carlathornton5751 7 років тому

    This was a really good learning experience. It appears things with an oil base or mostly made of water (e.g. the liquid smoke) doesn't fair to well. Possibly even those with a lot of salt. Very interesting.

  • @FrancisR420
    @FrancisR420 4 роки тому +4

    You tried to turn liquid smoke into solid smoke? your hubris knows no bounds!

  • @Noclevername00
    @Noclevername00 7 років тому +5

    You all are going Cray Cray with the freeze dry!

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +4

      Hey a new nickname. "Cray Cray, Bry Bry". I like it.

    • @annliddell1934
      @annliddell1934 6 років тому

      These things last up to 10 years freeze dried, we better learn to store up now.

  • @terrim.602
    @terrim.602 2 роки тому +1

    Lime juice does freeze dry. The oil has to be from another one of the condiments. I think using such porous liners skewed this experiment. Maybe look at the ones that you thought would do well and retry it in molds or another container so oils from food you know have oils doesn't cross over to foods you know does not have oils.

  • @jeremyschultz6861
    @jeremyschultz6861 7 років тому +1

    For the things that might explode, could you make a domed cover out of cheese cloth? Maybe it would work to keep the kielbasa from making a mess.

  • @TheresaForino
    @TheresaForino 7 років тому

    Worcester sauce - ˈwu̇s-tə(r)-ˌshir:
    Now this night gross people out but the main ingredient is fermented anchovies, however once blended with the barley malt vinegar, spirit vinegar, molasses, sugar, salt. Tamarind extract, onions, garlic, lemon and then allowed to mature for 18 months before bottling.
    It is very similar to Garum which was also a fermented fish sauce with herbs and spices used as a condiment in ancient Greece, Rome, and Byzantium.

  • @Brighten-up-sunshine
    @Brighten-up-sunshine 7 років тому +2

    Great Info Have a wonderful Toy Filled Day

  • @shelly5596
    @shelly5596 6 років тому +1

    Can I use my silicon cupcake forms on the trays to freeze dry condiments?

  • @brucewayne-cave
    @brucewayne-cave 7 років тому +2

    Great video.

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +2

      Thanks. That was a fun one. But I'm really looking forward to trying the raw steaks from the same batch. As soon as it stops raining we will grill them and post the video...

  • @DalV
    @DalV 5 років тому +1

    I wonder if you used ketchup that way organic and doesn't contain high fructose corn syrup if that'd freeze

  • @Pistonrager
    @Pistonrager 4 роки тому +1

    Why did you remove the plastic cups?

  • @AdmiralPreparedness
    @AdmiralPreparedness 7 років тому +2

    I am taking copious notes and I was not using a pencil....Now I am......Four out of so many......So, oil bad....Check!

  • @sarahw2561
    @sarahw2561 4 роки тому

    hi ive tried freeze drying some baby food, bananas and honey mashed together. but the batch came out like a sponge it was wobbly and not dry. what did i do wrong? please help
    I also freeze dried some pomegranates and the middle parts were gooey. should i have had them in the drying cycle longer?

  • @CookingwithCatLover0330
    @CookingwithCatLover0330 5 років тому

    I wish you tasted some of them. I will try the ketchup and mustard. Thanks!

  • @jamesc9001
    @jamesc9001 6 років тому

    you two are an adorable couple. nice video.

  • @agentp6621
    @agentp6621 7 років тому

    An old trick with condiments has been to dehydrate them in a normal dehydrater. Then grind them up in a coffee grinder. It makes a uniform powder that can be rehydrated or sprinkled on food.

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому

      Sprinkled on food? I like it!

    • @agentp6621
      @agentp6621 7 років тому

      Yes, firehousepantry.com has a powdered Red's hot sauce. Has the heat and vinegar flavor you expect from hot sauce. I tried it side by side fresh out of the bottle and powdered. The powdered wasn't quite as hot but definitely has the flavor with just a little less heat. I attribute that to the maltodextrin they add to it. It's in a lot of powdered food items because it is a filler, softens the heat if its hot. Think of salt and vinegar chips. If you had straight vinegar powder and it'd likely burn you. Acetic acid in powdered form is used in lab tests.

    • @agentp6621
      @agentp6621 7 років тому

      Additionally for the sandwich bread. Try Bridgford shelf stable bread. Multigrain, whole wheat, white etc.

  • @shelly5596
    @shelly5596 6 років тому

    Could the white stuff on the green sauce be citric acid? I also agree that all of the oil covering the tray, interfered with some of the items. Could lime juice ...a whole bottle dried at a time, basically what would fill the tray? Otherwise i’ll stick with dried citrus slices

  • @memyself-nd-i
    @memyself-nd-i 7 років тому

    when I was in the Army, '84-'88, they had freeze dried ketchup in some MRE's. it was tasty

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому

      I'm sure it works. I think the trick (many people are finding ) is if it has high fructose corn syrup it does crazy things and doesn't freeze dry well. I'll try ketchup again using something that doesn't have that and we will see.

  • @donbaggarlysr
    @donbaggarlysr 7 років тому +4

    Appears the samples were put in way too thick. My Heinz ketchup came out fine at a little less than tray height. Did a gallon of ketchup and mustard and both now powder.

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +2

      Thanks for the inputs! Definitely worth another try especially on the ketchup.

  • @gomezadams9900
    @gomezadams9900 5 років тому

    Hi Bryan, I've watched this video before, but I wonder if you could try to do salad dressings and post a video on that.

  • @freezedrying1793
    @freezedrying1793 6 років тому

    Just bought mine but i would like to know the taste test if possible.

  • @marcush4741
    @marcush4741 6 років тому +1

    This was cool, but with some of these, dont they already have ungodly shelf lives?
    Like worshtershire sauce. Isnt that, unopened, like a decade long shelf life?

  • @MrPlusses
    @MrPlusses 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for posting this episode. It answers the questions I had.
    How about cooked/uncooked pasta from the package? I'm thinking it will shrink but who knows?

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +2

      Added to the list. I can say that we have tried cooked pasta in Spaghetti sauce and also cooked Rotini pasta in sauce and they both retained their shape and size compared to the fully cooked version. I don't think we gain anything freeze drying uncooked pasta. Since it would still need to be cooked on the other side. The real gain is how quickly cooked pasta is ready to eat after being freeze dried and water is added back - it becomes "instant pasta" with no actual cooking.

    • @terrim.602
      @terrim.602 2 роки тому

      @@EpicenterBryan Pasta dishes are our next meals going in!

  • @hrdknox2000
    @hrdknox2000 7 років тому +2

    Well, in the words of my daughter's Elmo potty training video, "Keep on trying". In my words, try separating like items and retry the experiment. This is so much fun to watch!

  • @gomezadams9900
    @gomezadams9900 5 років тому

    I guess I should have been more specific since you tried some dressings in this video. Cesar and French dressings

  • @teenajtx
    @teenajtx 2 роки тому

    Maybe grind them catsup and then dehydrate the powder.

  • @gullinvarg
    @gullinvarg 6 років тому

    Mayo can break easily, especially if it gets too warm. That looked like broken mayo. If you can freeze dry lemon juice or vinegar (given the comment on someone successfully doing lemon and lime juice below), it might be interesting to try to make mayo from reconstituted whole eggs or just yolks, lemon juice and oil. I've made mayo with fresh whole eggs and just fresh yolks, most recipes are just yolks. If you have power and a stick blender, it's pretty easy. It's possible, but more finicky and time consuming, with a whisk if you don't have power.

  • @dgraham4966
    @dgraham4966 2 роки тому

    Hi EpicenterBryan!
    Have you tried these flavors or condiments in a cooked recipe to see how they do in that capacity?

  • @JefferyHunt
    @JefferyHunt 3 роки тому

    You could reconstitute some of thesewithchickenstockfora good flavor maybe.

  • @ksj1717
    @ksj1717 6 років тому

    Can we find a list of your results anywhere?

  • @onlythebestsound
    @onlythebestsound 7 років тому +2

    a lot of these condiments will store for years in their original form as long as they are stored in dark and cool.........might be easier that spending the time to freeze dry

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому

      I'm with you. I also wanted to know what worked and what didn't so I could try to stay away from things in other dishes I plan to try.

    • @onlythebestsound
      @onlythebestsound 7 років тому +1

      totally agree......some condiments seem to work when mixed with other ingredients.......will be testing more things this week....love your videos......

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +1

      Let me know if you do anything with Mayo. I have a batch of potato salad I made with sour cream (which I know for sure freeze dries) that is ready to go in a batch...

    • @onlythebestsound
      @onlythebestsound 7 років тому +1

      Will do......

  • @felaxchow207
    @felaxchow207 7 років тому +2

    I have the same problem of prouncing Worcestershire sauce, so the closest way I can say it is: "what's in this here" sauce...

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +1

      I haven't dived into the ingredients on that one. What's the most valuable insight you can share as to what causes a "fail" in your mind? And what's up with that Worcestershire sauce and the crazy puffiness?

    • @jean405
      @jean405 6 років тому +1

      Felax Chow pronunciations is ‘woostershire’. In England we drop the shire and call it Worcester Sauce

  • @johnhamburn3845
    @johnhamburn3845 3 роки тому

    Just a tip somethings that have a really high sugar content don't do so well such as ketchup. Its really hit or miss with ketchup I've seen some work and some not work really depends on the brand you use and its ingredients. As a tip you greatly increase your chances on such items if you dilute them with water allowing them for a more solid freeze. The extra water you add just gets evaporated out anyway. this is most likely the reason the BBQ sauce failed especially since baby rays has such a high sugar content.

    • @tkcdac
      @tkcdac 3 роки тому

      Can you tell me what brand works better on the ketchup?

  • @mikeswildoutdoors7279
    @mikeswildoutdoors7279 7 років тому

    Can't find no mention on youtube about FD'ed Jalapeno peppers!

  • @squishy312
    @squishy312 7 років тому +1

    So it looks like anything with oils or sugars won't work. The ones that are dry could probably be ground down into a powder. Most mustards come in powdered form to make your own. I wonder how many others come in powdered form. The lime juice is 95% water, so all that was left of it was the ascorbic acids, the sugars and the oil from it. Coffee would dehydrate pretty good. You'd probably be left with a foamy (whatever container sized) lump of coffee crystals.

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому +1

      There was a bunch of oil on the heater above the tray, so I'm not 100% sure oil from one item didn't collect above and drip somewhere else on the tray. Some things clearly didn't work though...

    • @tracyarmstrong2953
      @tracyarmstrong2953 5 років тому

      Kevin But we FD candy all the time. Gummy bears, Milk Duds, skittles. ALL sugar. So I don’t quite understand it.

  • @rollbot
    @rollbot 2 роки тому

    high oils and high sugars dont freeze dry. i dont know why?

  • @charlierogers1070
    @charlierogers1070 4 роки тому

    Has anyone tried putting Christmas candy (peanutter butter balls etc) in the fd?

  • @carladurland5194
    @carladurland5194 3 роки тому

    My grandmother would keep condements in her frig for years ane years and they were fine

  • @teenajtx
    @teenajtx 2 роки тому

    Lime juice is Mostly water there should not be much remaining solids.

  • @sandys.1891
    @sandys.1891 Рік тому

    I can tell you I had my first failure w/Better Than Bullion beef & chicken flavors. It raised up like a cake when you bake it. Made a huge mess in the machine. So stay away from that stuff. Happy to see your experiment so I don't have to do it.

  • @RVingwithG
    @RVingwithG 3 роки тому

    I think that the paper cups is what killed it.

  • @lauragray4536
    @lauragray4536 5 років тому

    The lime juice probably hit it's triple point and evaporated.

  • @mikeswildoutdoors7279
    @mikeswildoutdoors7279 7 років тому

    Right now 8-3-17 doing shrimp Argentine wild red and cocktail sauce, wondering how the sauce will turn out!

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому

      Let us know! One thing we found out was sauces with High-fructose corn syrup don't work.

    • @mikeswildoutdoors7279
      @mikeswildoutdoors7279 7 років тому

      will do, be glad to help

  • @jasonm621
    @jasonm621 4 роки тому +1

    Do honey please!!!

    • @tkcdac
      @tkcdac 3 роки тому

      Cant understand why anyone would do honey? It lasts forever in its normal state.
      There are some honey powders you can order that simulate the taste and last 25 years.. but its not real honey.

  • @tomirwin4819
    @tomirwin4819 6 років тому

    Thanks for sharing, I would appreciate the time/ temp settings that you use for all of the experiments that we see. 👍👍👍

  • @williamweigt7632
    @williamweigt7632 4 роки тому

    Results at 5:18.

  • @gregkral4467
    @gregkral4467 7 років тому

    The more sugar, the less drying, ruined a lot of sweet pickles that way (I hate sweet ones anyway, that ain't no pickle), am surprised with the relish though.

  • @IMDeus
    @IMDeus 5 років тому

    Why did you take them out of the plastic cups?

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  5 років тому

      I was afraid the cups would melt. The trays get up to 125+ degrees in the freeze drying process.

  • @lelandrumenthal5684
    @lelandrumenthal5684 7 років тому

    can you give us a list of just the ones that did work?

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  7 років тому

      Mustard, and half and half was about it. The ketchup was close - and will work with a brand that doesn't have high fructose corn syrup in it. We will try that again when I have time to search for a brand that doesn't have that.

  • @mikeswildoutdoors7279
    @mikeswildoutdoors7279 7 років тому

    First round the cocktail sauce is way to gummy , will load another batch of shrimp with the sauce

  • @rehabjoebuffet9892
    @rehabjoebuffet9892 6 років тому

    Mayo is mostly oil and eggs

  • @mlong1958
    @mlong1958 3 роки тому

    Should have left them in the plastic cups.

  • @tesshomestead8019
    @tesshomestead8019 3 місяці тому

    Oil n sugars don’t freeze dry well at all

  • @chappy2u22
    @chappy2u22 5 років тому

    How do you freeze dry coffee?

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  5 років тому +1

      We will do a video on that soon. We tried it and it worked!

    • @chappy2u22
      @chappy2u22 5 років тому

      @@EpicenterBryan Thank you!!!

  • @DrakkinXAI
    @DrakkinXAI 7 років тому +1

    I was waiting for Jen or someone to taste test the dried mustard before you reconstituted it

  • @grump86169
    @grump86169 3 роки тому

    I don't understand the experiment. Why would you try to freeze dry condiments and not the ingredients for the condiments. If it has water that's fine but you shouldn't freeze dry vinegar..

  • @joshuarayborn
    @joshuarayborn 6 років тому

    Sriracha?

  • @nat-mn7yk
    @nat-mn7yk 7 років тому

    how did i find this

  • @cuisined
    @cuisined 3 роки тому

    Basically, the more salt *_or_* Sugar the slushiest it gets!

  • @brendavandyke4967
    @brendavandyke4967 6 років тому

    I guess peanut butter won't work either. Lots of oil.

  • @lolitabonita08
    @lolitabonita08 6 років тому

    i think u need to re do the test using different containers,,,

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  6 років тому

      I know.... So much to freeze dry - so little time.

  • @carladurland5194
    @carladurland5194 3 роки тому

    Most Those things would probably last almost forever anyway

  • @DSMattitude
    @DSMattitude 6 років тому

    Rehydrate all of it in one bowl and try it haha

  • @brentcunningham5580
    @brentcunningham5580 6 років тому

    but who uses half and half as a condiment lol

  • @dhawk1755
    @dhawk1755 6 років тому

    Try fat free half and half. There's lots of fat in regular cream

  • @retroprime9216
    @retroprime9216 4 роки тому +1

    REDO !!! Too much contamination...

  • @shepnannie
    @shepnannie 5 років тому

    Sherbet is full of gas, kinda like whipped cream

    • @EpicenterBryan
      @EpicenterBryan  5 років тому

      The real problem is with corn syrup. If you can find that item without corn syrup you will have much better results.