1. If the Bulgarian State was the biggest enemy of the Slavs, why the Slavic culture starts from that state??? 2. If Bulgarians and Slavs were such a big enemies, why Cyrillic alphabet was invented in the capital of Preslav? Why the capital was named PRESLAV??? 3. And why the very first books of Bulgarians are not only in Slavic letters but in Slavic sense? You can use whatever alphabet you want in your state, all western countries are using the Latin alphabet, but by meaning each nation has its own language. The very first Bulgarian books from Chernorizec Hrabur, Ioan Exzarh, Konstantin Preslavski are in clear Slavic language? 4. Why Macedonians are offending Bulgarians as Tatars or Turks. These are all great nations. On the other hand to be a janissary that is offending. If all Tsars from the Medieval times and all early Macedonian scholars from the Revival claimed themselves as Bulgarians, why do you think you know better than them?
i wonder why every "bulgarian hero" is written as Bulgarian AND Macedonian Revolutionery . why is macedonian even written there. When goce delchev was born in Kukus Greece why was he written as Macedonian not just bulgarian?
Hi Mario, first of all I think it's nice there is a debate and a conversation about these topics. I actually liked this eposode much more than the one about the Bitola inscription for example. It is true Bulgar khans were quite hostile towards the Christians, but I think it's sloppy to equate Slavs with Christians for this particilar period. Some Slavs who lived south of the Balkan mountain range were indeed Christian and the khans fought against them, but that doesn't necessarily prove that Slavs to the north were Christian as well or that they were treated any worse than the way the Byzantines treated its own Slavic subjects in Thrace and Macedonia. It seems to have been a marriage of convenience, the Bulgars had horses and were good at fighting the Greeks/Romans, and the the slavs would have provided the Bulgars with grain and other goods in exchange for the Bulgar "protection". I don't imagine they had much of a choice, granted. Also, I don't think you give a fair analysis to the Presian inscription. In my opinion the "good things" the Bulgars did to the Christians refers to military assistance provided to Constantinopole by khan Tervel against the Arabs and by khan Omurtag against the rebelion of Thomas the Slav. What I really liked about the video is the part where you acknowledge that slavs who lived in Bulgarian Empire chose the Bulgarian label themselves once they were offered Christianity in their own language. This was nation building. It was indeed a brilliant move by Boris I and it did backfire initially, but this was the moment when Bulgars and Slavs started to mix and form a new Bulgarian/Christian "identity" vs the old tribal Slav and Bulgar ones. From that moment on you can't be sure who is Bulgar and who is Slav anymore because they started using Christian names and the slavic language for their inscriptions. So I don't think it's fair of you modern day Macedonians to stress the Turkic/Mongol origin of modern day Bulgarians. If you were right, why do Bulgarians speak a Slavic language today? Here is an interesting fact for you: many Muslims who speak "our" language do not feel comfortable with the Bulgarian identity because for them Bulgarian means Christian. Just like in Yugoslavia many people just identify with their religion. The Byzantines identified as Roman even though the majority of them must have spoken Greek. I saw a documentary about the Pomaks in modern day Greece from one of those nationalist TV channels in Bulgaria, the most interesting part was when when the journalist asked a kid about the language they use at school and the answer was "urumski". So I think we have to cool down and realize these national identities are very complex things that are not absolute or constant. There were many waves of migrants in our region which continue until today. Kumans, Tatars, Crusaiders, Jews (from Spain of all places), Gypsies, Turks, Circassians, Armenians, Syrians etc. So, nobody is "pure". In fact, things were likely even more mixed up during the Ottoman period. I don't agree with Bulgarians who say Macedonia shouldn't be allowed in the EU until they declare themselves as Bulgarians, that's wrong, just as it's wrong for Macedonians to insist Bulgarians aren't slavs but pure Mongols (you guys have a town called "Kumanovo", it doesn't mean you're Turkic). I think a lot of people are learning many new things because of the current disputes and that's good. My current understanding is that the creation of the modern Macedonian nation was a political decision made by the Yugo leadership about 80 years ago, and that before some Macedonians had a Bulgarian identity, others Greek, and then others favored a Macedonian identity. The last group form the majority in the republic of N. Macedonia today, and even if they have little to do with Ancient Macedonians, it's their right. Hopefully the historians will come up with an acceptable solution soon and people from both countries will be able to live their lives and visit, and be frends with each other just like most other European countries. The Bulgaria/Macedonia situation isn't unique. We have Germany/Austria/Switzerland, Norway/Denmark, Dutch/Frisian/Flemmish, Russia/Belarus/(Ukraine), Romania/Moldova. In some cases people consider themselves pretty much the same, in other cases they think they're very different, and then some others just don't care. I think Macedonia and Bulgaria will find a solution soon because this bickering doesn't really help anyone. I was born in Bulgaria, I use a Canadian passport, I live among a mix of Native, African and European people in Colombia and speak a local variety of Spanish. Peace.
I mean the people really don't care when it comes to history and politics we can still live our lives. It's usually always the nationalists that make things seem hard between nations otherwise the people always get along. I know a friend that studied in a university in Thessaloniki and he met a really great greek friend there but what's also interesting is he met a Bulgarian there too who was also very warm as a person and overall nice. The three spent most of their time hanging out and chatting about things that matter today, in this era/time instead of being on each other's throats/necks like history made us look like. They still to this day meet up to important holidays e.g Easter or Christmas. The same thing could be said during Yugoslavian times, many people from SR Macedonia could barely wait to travel to Greece and experience the nice beaches or visit some old families/friends in Bulgaria despite history saying otherwise and it's great to know that no matter what the politicians say the people will always get along. Hopefully, before we reach the 22nd century these whole Balkan debates will be settled or we just form a union of some sort.
@@JustSlav98 Exactly, you are worshiped of Asian lords with name Bulgars. Your ancestors have got rid of their name and substituted with Asian wariors, which are now almost extinct. Why I know, why you treated Macedonians in same way as Greeks do.
Mario, have you made errors here? 3:48 that inscription does not seem to be written in Greek. 7:42 this inscription is written in the Greek alphabet, so what you are implying is that Bulgars left it using the Greek alphabet?
@Antigon Gonat From what I read, Omurtag inscription is in the Greek LANGUAGE. Is the one Mario showing in Bulgarian language using Greek script or is it in Greek language alltogether?
@@my8osprive It's Greek language. This is the truth: There are only 1 and a half texts written in the supposed Bulgarian language which aren't enough to prove any linguistic family and no conclusive translation has been made (these are: the Preslav "inventory?" list, and another similar badly damaged one). People can't figure out what they say so they search words in other turkic languages in other time periods in other regions trying to find some words that "somehow look like" so they can connect them, but none of that is scientific. These texts also suggest that the language doesn't have agglutinative features(as seemingly multiple forms of the same words are present, with changed roots), neither do they have vowel harmony, both of which are essential to all turkic languages. Besides, the real name of the ruler is 100% certainly Murtag without O (there's no question about it!). Many other sources confirm it and there are documents that show the name was still used by people in 16th century. It is also definitely not turkic by origin, because of the phonology as well as very similar names found in Germanic and Celtic sources, which supports an Indo-European origin of the name. The O in front is a misinterpreted typo of using omega instead of omicron for the definitive article in Greek language. Our epigraphic sources are quite crude and illiterate, and there are various inconsistencies and typos. The original researcher of the text (more than 100 years ago) was confused and decided to merge the O together as part of the name. That's how it entered mainstream historiography, something that our historians still haven't addressed officially. The whole turkic theory is a made up lie based on many similar fabrications. Also, this channel is pure propaganda and this hobo speaks no truth. Regards from Bulgaria, "Makedonia" is Greek. Truth shall prevail.
@@didoidol you can only dream that the world is bulgarian you sichkovist!from Burgundia to Mongolia its all yours i gave it to you! when we say Makedonia its like garlic to a devil to you Vulgarians..
@@danielpetrovski6662 no the world is not ours, only macedonia. Бугарче од македонски регион без историjа, без фолклор, без народ, без jазик. И не можеш да ме обидиш на татар и монгол оти Гоце Делчев е бугарин и е ваш най голем герой, Гоце Делчев татар ли е? Монгол ли е? 😂😂😂😂
@@didoidol iako pishuval vo pisma zada ubeduva lugje da go pomognat kako i sekoj politichar deka e Bugarin,toj se deklarira kako Makedonec ,zatoa i e eliminiran kako i site negovi sovremenici koi ne se soglasuvale so vrhovistite..so Protogerov natamu VMRO e kidnapirana organizacija i site manipulacii se od vrvot na Bg.tron za nivni potrebi .vash heroj nee sigurno zashto ke najdevte nachin ushte togash dago velichate ,a ne nashi lugje dago krijat i dagi donesat koskite vo Skopje.a so shovinizmot i fashistichkite likovi i strani,teshko deka kese najdeme..trebashe da bideme edno ushte od vremeto posle Puleski Gjorgija ,a od togash se samo vetuvanja deka ke ni pomognete ko brakja ama ne!toa shto ne tretirate ko cigani i den denes otkoga ZajkoKukurajko ne ostavi na nemilost megu vas i Shiptarite ke vi se mavne pak od glava,zashto Bugarite ne razbiraat bratsvo i edinstvo na narodite tuku samo svojot lichen interes mislejki deka ke izgubite,a ne ste izgubile nishto..a gjavolot ni ora ni kopa..a plodovite se poznavaat po drvoto..a drvoto nee Bugarsko..niti srpsko niti grchko niti shiptarsko..
You are forgetting that the majority of the standardization of The Old Church Slavonic (Old Bulgarian) language occurred in the city of Preslav, not only in Ohrid along side the creation of the "Cyrillic" Alphabet. Also, at the time of Boris, he was known as "TSAR" and not "KHAN" - he was the first ruler to be given this title of "Caesar" outside of the Roman/Byzantine Empire. Just how Thracians disappeared and became one with Bulgaria and Byzantium, the same happened with the original "Macedonians" but a thousand or so years earlier! - The ethnicity of "North Macedonia" is the same as that of Bulgaria, and so is it's language. North Macedonia has no claim over the language or alphabet, and the history books say it all, there is no argument to be had.
So other nations on the territory of the bulgarian empire like Serbs and Vlahs kept their name and identity, but the Macedonians with their great culture started calling themselves Bulgarians. The tribe of the Smolyani can not be macedonian. Geographically they lived in the Rhodopi Mountain, where nowadays is the bulgarian town of Smolyan. And this is not in Macedonia at all. And how can a slavic tribe be a macedonian tribe? If they are Macedonians they cannot be a slavic tribe anymore. Looks like this is really a complicated part of the history for you. Beside that, you lye like "an old gypsy".
Think a bit about Makedon an archeological site of Vergina wich was not Makedonia in pagan times ! Never called so in the time before 2000 years ! Alexander was from Makedon ! It was pagan time left in oblivion . There is no such a thing North Republic of Makedon but North republic of Macedonia as wider expresion than Makedon is . We did not stole anything Greek , but the culture was called retrogradly so. It is too late to change it and that is why we must make comprimises! Makedon was not called ever Greece but Kingdom Makedon sometime Helenic, and helenic was not some kind of a nation but culture spread ! When you compare the artefacts just see how old and diferent ornamentation are in that site of Pella ( Bela ) and what are macedonian treasures all over, today of a new era after Jesus Christ . Nowhere was writen Makedonia in the Alexander time , but Makedon ! You made it in all history books Makedon to be the same with Makedonia ! OK , you have that name "greeks", and nobody is going to change it ! If it wasn't the mosaic of Alexander found in excavation of Pompey in 1843 , nobody could have known how he looked like . They didnt know where Vergina was up to 1970-ties . There was only pagan amulets and panagias in churches ! Pagan art of pagan famoust people left in memory of people ! And that is an other story how is looking today ( Alexsander The Great , realy great like handsome and imaginable, Apolon ). Everyone can put him anywhere they like as artefact! Not knowing how he loked like is not pilfering . It is only an art exagerated by passed times ! So keep going making "ancient " arthefact but all world knows what was Makedon and what is Macedonian Republic in the Northern Macedonia after Province Macedoniae , Roman time name ! Thank you ,at last the problem is solved and Bulgaria will never manage to apropriate us ever ! Because we have not ancestors of Makedon but from Makedonia which was a unique and specialy determinated because of people calling themselves Macedonians ! It is your ancestors Makedin because you like to exagerate and you think that it is posible to have such as long time "greek" haplogrour relation . Ha ha ha ha You have accepted that expresion ,, Greeks" , so please yourselves , and no thank you we are not greeks ! We dont like it ! You are the ones that did us a favour at last and made last verifikation of our entity in the North . Is our name Slav Macedonia , not . Even our language is registered worldwidly as macedonian language , indoeuropean groupand Slavic branch which is expresing the culture aplied in our country Makedonia not Slav etnicity !
@@voskreglavincevska3651 You (Macedonians), are an invention of the Comintern in the 1930's and 40's. Nowhere before that do history books mention a separate slavic Macedonian race. Trying to cover this up makes you guys look like infants. Grow up and face reality.
"It should be noted that there is NO CONNECTION between the ancient Macedonians of the time of Alexander the Great who were related to other Greek [Hellenic] tribes, and the modern so called "Macedonians" of today [of the Former Yugoslav Rep..of north Macedonia]who are of Slavic origin and related to the Bulgarians" [David H Levinson, Anthropologist, Encyclopaedia of World Cultures, p. 239]
Mario, I really tried to hear you out (I listened to 18 minutes of fantasy) this interpretation if history is so skewed that is nothing but propaganda. My favorite part is that tsar Boris gave the throne to someone else... called Simeon?!?!? (This someone else just happened to be his younger son) do some research brother don't embaress yourself...
@adrian colp just so you understand I am from the macedonian region, my family was prosecuted by the communist for not accepting the made up macedonian nationality, maintaining that we are all Bulgarians. I also hapen to be educated in the US, and just so you know the rest of the world believes in the same history the Bulgarians believe in. Only in Macedonia do they teach this alt history, which is paid for by the Serbian state since before the 40's. Unfortunately this propaganda has worked and now we have one peoples divided in 2 separate weak countries instead of united and strong together. As far as you comment is concerned... so weak... you ignored everything I said and created your own narrative which was total gibberish. P.S. that is called a strawman argument...look it up.
"Macedonian nationalism Is a new phenomenon. In the early twentieth century, there was no separate Slavic Macedonian identity." Sperling, James; Kay, Sean; Papacosma, S. Victor (2003). Limiting institutions?: the challenge of Eurasian security governance. Manchester, UK: Manchester University Press. p. 57.
@@ioanhogwarts4953 Yes, you have Greek cities and they are more than the Greek cities in Vardarska. My grandmother is from Sozopol (Σωζόπολη-Sozopoli) in Black sea and south of Burgas. My cousins still live there.
Greek history is fake made to attract tourist like egypts the real old ruins are in iran turkey and iraq and are Tartarian and Alexander never existed his sculpt is an itallian statue made somehere in the 17th century
Don't listen to the man on top. Greece has history and unfortunately we don't know why they steal history... I have always wondered how do they claim they have Christian since day yet they claim Alexander the great is "macedonian" He was born before Christ which means there is no way he could be Christian as you would know. Makes you think eh? Obviously not it's very easy to catch on the eye
@@todorvranchev2091 Greeks are NOT Christian.After centuries of Byzantine murders and suppression of Hellenes, still most Greeks are Atheists, Agnostics, etc, and even most of those who claim Christian, attend church maybe once in a year.
@@maniacgr2617 hmmmm true and also interesting. Now my question is to mario as many macedonians claim. How are eyes one of the first Christian "countries"..... It's sad what they are doing and while they are at it are low key gonna destroy isreals history as well....... If what they say that Alexander the great was SOMEHOW a Christian.
@@todorvranchev2091well in fact Greek history is fabricated to suit for Tourist purposes, genetically Byzantines are Romans and not Greeks and they have different genetic code. It’s not hard to check if you run some DNA tests. Today’s Greek people are mix of small Balkan tribes and Ottoman Empire descendants! That’s why we both those people Turkish and Greek when they run DNA tests it comes out with the same genetic code.
It angers me so much that the Bulgarians will claim Alexander the Great, St Cyril and Methodius and even Jesus Christ as their own. They will take anything the Macedonians and Slavs adore and practice and say they created it.
@@bobantheighty6141 You should be ashamed of yourself spreading lies on internet. Which countries divided Macedonia on this date in 1913? Who did the ethnic cleansing in Aegean, Pirin and Vardar Maceodnia? You are pretty much brave with your sweet talks, originating from a Pagan Turkic Mongol background. Your aancestor were killing Macedonians (Slavs) for 3 centuries before they accepted the Christian faith in which we the MACEDONIANS baptized you and gave you language. But one thing is for sure, the world don't sleep they are slowly opening their eyes and seeing the truth that you and Greece are trying to hide and twist.
@@forbiddenhistory9893 В България никога не са гонили християните, дори Кубрат, Муртаг и Телериг са християни. Така че не си измисляй глупости, Княз Борис покръсти целия си народ, 1200 години по късно ще се явнат едни малумници да си измислят нова народност, като хем са славяни, хем са елини, хем са чада на Александър. Ще се кръстят на римската провинция Македония и ще решат че това е антична Македония. И понеже никой не е чувал за такива мелези, ще си пооткраднат бая от гръцката и българската история, ще побият знаме с вентилатор и ще кажат като княз Испор, - ОТ ТУК КЕ БИДЕ МАКЕДОНИЯ. :)
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Bulgarians never ruled Macedonia Both first and second bulgarian empire were turks by origin from bulgars and cumans😂😂 Also last bulgarian dynasty is German origin
Actually the North Macedonians, are ethnic Turks. The real Macedonians live in Northern Greece. During the Ottoman Empire the region North Macedonia was inhabited by Turks, Albanians and Serbs. The real name of Skopje is Sanjak of Üsküp. In 1392 Pasha Yiğit Bey led the army that took Skopje (Üsküp) and he was named the conqueror of Skopje by the Ottoman Empire. Pasha Yiğit Bey became the first lord of the Skopsko Krajište, the borderland province of Ottoman Empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Tito, USSR and the Communist Party in Sofia invented you as a nation. A new history and language were also invented, erasing your Turkish origin. According to the latest census in NM only 54% are ethnic macedonians and 46% of you are christians. Because of its many mosques, Skopje is also known as Little Turkey. The sad reality is that you are a failing state that soon will be part of Albania.
You are being problematic buddy. Your channel in general is the biggest propaganda I’ve ever seen so far. Just because your country was, and is a nothing doesn’t gives you any sort of right to change history according to your very own likes and preferences.
@@Κωνσταντίνος-ξ9μ the republic of Macedonia is the only independent region of Macedonia the other parts of the region are occupied by Greece Bulgaria Serbia and Albania Macedonia will reunite in her ethnographical and geographical borders 👌🏻 Macedonia for the Macedonians 🇲🇰
"Yugoslav Communists recognized the existence of a Macedonian nationality during WWII to quiet fears of the Macedonian population that a communist Yugoslavia would continue to follow the former Yugoslav policy of forced Serbianization. Hence, for them to recognize the inhabitants of Macedonia as Bulgarians would be tantamount to admitting that they should be part of the Bulgarian state. For that the Yugoslav Communists were most anxious TO MOLD Macedonian history to fit their conception of Macedonian consciousness. The treatment of Macedonian history in Communist Yugoslavia had the same primary goal as the creation of the Macedonian language: to de-Bulgarize the Macedonian Slavs, and to create a national consciousness that would inspire identification with Yugoslavia." For more see: Stephen E. Palmer, Robert R. King, Yugoslav communism and the Macedonian question, Archon Books, 1971, ISBN 0208008217, Chapter 9: The encouragement of Macedonian culture.
Don't be shine I am sure alexander the great conquer mars, how there we call u Bulgarians OMG the man himself do other planets not countries! And do u know how I know that ? Becouse you the greater macedonians discover your( imagine) leanglige there on Mars .... So we are the true GREAT Macedonians firs on this lend!!! This will be like epizod 911 cheers tard
Have you ever seen any Tatarian? We have one women from Tatarstan. She is look like Mongolian girl. Don`t mix Russsian with Tatarian. Tatarians are minority in Russia.
As the number of evidence of linguistic, ethnographic and socio-political nature show that Bulgars belonged to the group of Turkic peoples.[36][24][26][30] The Bulgars (also Bolgars or proto-Bulgarians[40]) were a semi-nomadic people of Turkic descent, originally from Central Asia, who from the 2nd century onwards dwelled in the steppes north of the Caucasus and around the banks of river Volga (then Itil). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bulgaria Bulgars (< Turkic bulgha- ‘to mix, stir up, disturb’, i.e. ‘rebels’) A Turkic tribal union of the Pontic steppes that gave rise to two important states: Danubian-Balkan Bulgaria (First Bulgarian Empire, 681-1018) and Volga Bulgaria (early 10th century-1241). They derived from Oghuric-Turkic tribes, driven westward from Mongolia and south Siberia to the Pontic steppes in successive waves by turmoil associated with the Xiongnu (late 3rd cent. ... ... www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780198662778.001.0001/acref-9780198662778-e-820 Many Slavic tribes lived within the boundaries of the state, together with the proto-Bulgarians, a tribe of Turkic origin that had settled in the Balkan Peninsula at the end of the 7th century. www.britannica.com/biography/Boris-I The Bulgars were a Turkic tribal confederation that gave rise to the Balkan Bulgar and Volga Bulgar states.The ethynonym derives from the Turkish bulgha-,”to stir,mix,disturb,confuse.” books.google.com.tr/books?id=c788wWR_bLwC&pg=PA354&redir_esc=y&hl=tr#v=onepage&q=Bulgars&f=false (Harvard University Press) The Volga Bulgars, a Turkish tribe then living on the east bank of the Volga River, ... the laws of Islam to the Bulgars, who had recently converted to the religion. www.bookrags.com/research/ahmad-ibn-fadlan-ued/#gsc.tab=0
Greeks and Bulgarians!! We don't have to prove anything to you , if someone is Macedonian that they are Macedonian, regardless of history. Stay safe,happy peace,love and respect.
We don't mind u having your own country brother we never new countries come up anytime any year and they also dissapear. But the problem is when history is taken. Yes macedonian land as we know it now is very sacred and historical but it doesnt belong to the country of macedonia it belongs to the country that owned this land. We love fyrom anyway.
@@todorvranchev2091 , nobody is asking if you mind or don't mind. Your luck of respect shows your chauvinism. You came up with nice words then you twisted them like someone is owing something. You need to decide what are you , vulgarturk, Tatar, ülgur or Slav. If choose the first 3 then you are Bulgar descending from Khan family. If you are Slav then you can be Macedonian or Serb. Again I will keep my nice attitude. Wishing everyone happy New year and prosperous life ❤️🇲🇰👌
@@MacedonianGrace brother I said nothing but nice things. I am a bulgar the bulgar that rules the world created the cyrilic I am also a macedon descendent where my grandfather got burnt in front of our bulgar family from serbs. That's what I am, I am also a slav. A nation that's been slavic for around 1000 words do not try to rub that bullshit on me. In will never be macedonian as there is no such thing ur either Greek serb orbulgia bulgarian.
@@todorvranchev2091 right Brother Ok I didn't mean to upset you, I'm sorry, if you are ok , we can do nice talk beyond political. I respectfully greet you are as a Great Bulgarian. Cheers mate.
Bulgarian history in the medieval times is heavily influenced by Macedonians. But in the 19th and 20th century it's reversed. And it's nothing to be ashamed of. When the bulgars came, we were intellectually superior to them, although they try to claim the opposite and losing the opportunity to be taken seriously by us. The truth is, we don't share the same history, but we have a significant amount of times when we were counted as one, under the Bulgarian name which is strange.
@@bobantheighty6141 you are taking this way too far. How come every Wikipedia page is referring to the Old Slavic language as Old Church Slavonic, and only the Bulgarian page is calling it Old Bulgarian. How come a Turkic tribe becomes from extremely hostile to extremely acceptive and protective to the Slavic culture in a time span of 200 years. P.S we didn't have an official alphabet until 1945 so you can't call the Serbs guilty of taking Bulgarian letters from the alphabet because in the northern parts of Macedonia, Serbian letters were prevalent, while in the southern parts Bulgarian letters were prevalent because we didn't have schools nor any official cultural institution allowed. It is very idiotic to call Macedonian the youngest Slavic language when many people are referring to it as one of the oldest
@@bobantheighty6141 well whatever symbol or other we claim as our own, few years later you claim it as yours. A pure evidence are the author songs from Vaska Ilieva and Vojo Stojanovski, who you show under bulgarian flag and claim as your own
You are very good at mental gymnastics. Too bad the world does not agree with you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_of_Bulgaria www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-tsar-of-western-Bulgaria
@@ProtSqua YOU HONESTLY BROUGHT IN WIKIPEDIA???? ROFLLLLLLLLLL MAAANNNN I feel sorry for you. EVERY WIKIPEDIA PAGE IS CONTRA TO YOUR "MACEDONIAN" history books man, wtf are you talking about?
There is no Turkic-Bulgar tribe, my descendants are from the Ottoman Empire and I’m born and raised in Bulgaria, but in fact we were Bulgarian until the Ottoman Empire started taking the 1st born male to become a Janissary! I really don’t know where have you studied History… it’s funny how so many people live in some sort of fantasy.
@@bobantheighty6141 Да,да знаеме како умреа, од вашите изроди и предавници кои ги местеа да гинат од турците а вие да фаќате сеир од страна. Бугарија беше слободна кога умре Гоце, ај де одговори ни зошто не побарал Гоце да биде закопан на Бугарска земја туку во Македонија - пошто според вашите квази истории напишани во кафана Македонија била Бугарска земја?
Who is Simeon again? Somebody else. If you calling your son somebody else it doesn't talk good for you. But you already treat him bad when you talk false history about his origin. Really it is documented that ancient Macedonians (100% from Hellenistic origin) where resettled by Byzantium due heavy devastated onslaught by Visigoths, Huns and Vandals IV V century into other parts of the empire. So you are not ancient now what are you Slavs just one of the slav peoples who resettled in that region because it was heavy depopulated. Even these Presian inscription from Philippi is not written in native Bulgarian language as you say, it is greek language . The nobility of First Bulgarian empire is not only Bulgars who sadistically torture native balkan population as you picture it but byzantine greeks, bulgars and slavs even from the parts of macedonian province and was well educated back then . In conclusion If you are saying that Bulgars come tortured and killing everything they saw the rest alive they subjugate why there is state called Bulgaria today? How was able to survive so much time more than 1000 years. How you will explain that with what you saying? It is non sense complete false history. Take your North Macedonian state build it how you can but don't mess with my history and origin of the provinces from The First and Second Bulgarian Empires. I'm not Macedonian as you try to picture me. You have to rename yourself to Mario's False History Talks
In borders of other empires. Ruled by other nations kings and emperor's. There were ancient inhabitants inhabiting an area called Macedonia. Not a nation. The nation was created centuries later. Around 1991.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 you mean Filip the Greek? Who was born in the Macedonian region between Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece 😂 I can easily tell that you never opened a book in your entire life. You are artificially created country just like kosovo 😉
100 % TRUE ! slushajte slavjano - " bugari " , toa e vistinata ! dozvolivte edna turko-mongolska orda da vi nametne nivno ime i ideentitet ! od Trako - slavjani stanavte turko-bugari !
Само дето българите никога не са били тюрки, а славяните ще се явнат към 16 век, измислени от Марко Прибоевич, и наложени от немкинята Екатерина велика. Ама ти това от де ще го знаеш, като слушаш и верваш само на такива измислени историчари.
@@bogdanharalampiev2875 cel svt znae deka bulgarite se turkic - mongolic , so turkic jazik ! slavjanite postoele i pred 16 vek , pod ime Makedonci , Traki i Iliri , samo poimot slavjani e nov od 16 vek !
@@ohrid59mk76 под име македонци, жив славянин не мож намери, имало е гети, а тюрско-монголи си е ваша измислица, кой век идват монголите в европа може и сам да разбереш, като гледам имаш компютар, потърси а не пиши заучени глупости. bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82_%D0%9E%D1%85%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8, bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8 как мислиш, йоан малала който е роден в 5 век, дали не е по близо до истината от тебе?
@@ohrid59mk76 поляците и литовците и чехите какви са бре? Прото македонци ли? Да си чувал монголи и татари да превземат троя? Я прочети какво пише В „Хронография“ на византийския летописец Йоан Малала пише: „пристигна с атридите и самси Ахил със своя собствена войска, наричани някога мирмидоняни, а сега българи, 3000 души“ Това е 550 година смотан, смяташ ли че човек от 6 век не прави разлика между тюрки и монголи и траки? Ахил монголец ли е бре? istorianasveta.eu/%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8/ct-menu-item-11/%D0%BE%D1%82-%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE-681-%D0%B3/534-%D0%B1%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8-%D0%B8-%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8-%D0%B2-%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BD%D0%B0-v-%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0-vi-%D0%B2.html Чети и това, за монголи освен теб, никъде не се споменава. В прочем и за мЪкедонци.
Makedonia is Part of greek like all other states. You are a slav like it or not. Go to make a dna test to see what you are. Slavs came to the region 6 c after christ.
1. If the Bulgarian State was the biggest enemy of the Slavs, why the Slavic culture starts from that state???
2. If Bulgarians and Slavs were such a big enemies, why Cyrillic alphabet was invented in the capital of Preslav? Why the capital was named PRESLAV???
3. And why the very first books of Bulgarians are not only in Slavic letters but in Slavic sense? You can use whatever alphabet you want in your state, all western countries are using the Latin alphabet, but by meaning each nation has its own language. The very first Bulgarian books from Chernorizec Hrabur, Ioan Exzarh, Konstantin Preslavski are in clear Slavic language?
4. Why Macedonians are offending Bulgarians as Tatars or Turks. These are all great nations. On the other hand to be a janissary that is offending. If all Tsars from the Medieval times and all early Macedonian scholars from the Revival claimed themselves as Bulgarians, why do you think you know better than them?
What kind of nation is one, which has glorified the name of their lords of different language and origin? Typically Slavic.
I'm surprised why the mighty Macedonian Empire didn't show any resistance or even build one fortress?
I see several Bulgarian rulers and not even one "macedonian" wonder why? 😆
Not several !
They can be a lot of them any time !
But the inhabitants were and are Macedonians !
i wonder why every "bulgarian hero" is written as Bulgarian AND Macedonian Revolutionery . why is macedonian even written there. When goce delchev was born in Kukus Greece why was he written as Macedonian not just bulgarian?
i wonder why most Macedonian revolutioneers are born in macedonia not bulgaria
@@voskreglavincevska3651iam macedonian and we are bulgarians not the communist identity you think we are
@@BringBackCyrillicBGbullshit
Само дето "македонски славянин" през 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 век, няма да го намериш никъде.
В 19.век също. Чак в средата на 20. век
Македонски славянин просто означава славянин , който населява географската област Македония, нищо повече.
M A K E D O N I J A ime od BOG MAKEDON. pred 30 veka.
Hi Mario, first of all I think it's nice there is a debate and a conversation about these topics. I actually liked this eposode much more than the one about the Bitola inscription for example. It is true Bulgar khans were quite hostile towards the Christians, but I think it's sloppy to equate Slavs with Christians for this particilar period. Some Slavs who lived south of the Balkan mountain range were indeed Christian and the khans fought against them, but that doesn't necessarily prove that Slavs to the north were Christian as well or that they were treated any worse than the way the Byzantines treated its own Slavic subjects in Thrace and Macedonia. It seems to have been a marriage of convenience, the Bulgars had horses and were good at fighting the Greeks/Romans, and the the slavs would have provided the Bulgars with grain and other goods in exchange for the Bulgar "protection". I don't imagine they had much of a choice, granted.
Also, I don't think you give a fair analysis to the Presian inscription. In my opinion the "good things" the Bulgars did to the Christians refers to military assistance provided to Constantinopole by khan Tervel against the Arabs and by khan Omurtag against the rebelion of Thomas the Slav.
What I really liked about the video is the part where you acknowledge that slavs who lived in Bulgarian Empire chose the Bulgarian label themselves once they were offered Christianity in their own language. This was nation building. It was indeed a brilliant move by Boris I and it did backfire initially, but this was the moment when Bulgars and Slavs started to mix and form a new Bulgarian/Christian "identity" vs the old tribal Slav and Bulgar ones. From that moment on you can't be sure who is Bulgar and who is Slav anymore because they started using Christian names and the slavic language for their inscriptions. So I don't think it's fair of you modern day Macedonians to stress the Turkic/Mongol origin of modern day Bulgarians. If you were right, why do Bulgarians speak a Slavic language today? Here is an interesting fact for you: many Muslims who speak "our" language do not feel comfortable with the Bulgarian identity because for them Bulgarian means Christian. Just like in Yugoslavia many people just identify with their religion. The Byzantines identified as Roman even though the majority of them must have spoken Greek. I saw a documentary about the Pomaks in modern day Greece from one of those nationalist TV channels in Bulgaria, the most interesting part was when when the journalist asked a kid about the language they use at school and the answer was "urumski".
So I think we have to cool down and realize these national identities are very complex things that are not absolute or constant. There were many waves of migrants in our region which continue until today. Kumans, Tatars, Crusaiders, Jews (from Spain of all places), Gypsies, Turks, Circassians, Armenians, Syrians etc. So, nobody is "pure". In fact, things were likely even more mixed up during the Ottoman period. I don't agree with Bulgarians who say Macedonia shouldn't be allowed in the EU until they declare themselves as Bulgarians, that's wrong, just as it's wrong for Macedonians to insist Bulgarians aren't slavs but pure Mongols (you guys have a town called "Kumanovo", it doesn't mean you're Turkic). I think a lot of people are learning many new things because of the current disputes and that's good. My current understanding is that the creation of the modern Macedonian nation was a political decision made by the Yugo leadership about 80 years ago, and that before some Macedonians had a Bulgarian identity, others Greek, and then others favored a Macedonian identity. The last group form the majority in the republic of N. Macedonia today, and even if they have little to do with Ancient Macedonians, it's their right.
Hopefully the historians will come up with an acceptable solution soon and people from both countries will be able to live their lives and visit, and be frends with each other just like most other European countries. The Bulgaria/Macedonia situation isn't unique. We have Germany/Austria/Switzerland, Norway/Denmark, Dutch/Frisian/Flemmish, Russia/Belarus/(Ukraine), Romania/Moldova. In some cases people consider themselves pretty much the same, in other cases they think they're very different, and then some others just don't care. I think Macedonia and Bulgaria will find a solution soon because this bickering doesn't really help anyone. I was born in Bulgaria, I use a Canadian passport, I live among a mix of Native, African and European people in Colombia and speak a local variety of Spanish. Peace.
I mean the people really don't care when it comes to history and politics we can still live our lives. It's usually always the nationalists that make things seem hard between nations otherwise the people always get along.
I know a friend that studied in a university in Thessaloniki and he met a really great greek friend there but what's also interesting is he met a Bulgarian there too who was also very warm as a person and overall nice. The three spent most of their time hanging out and chatting about things that matter today, in this era/time instead of being on each other's throats/necks like history made us look like. They still to this day meet up to important holidays e.g Easter or Christmas.
The same thing could be said during Yugoslavian times, many people from SR Macedonia could barely wait to travel to Greece and experience the nice beaches or visit some old families/friends in Bulgaria despite history saying otherwise and it's great to know that no matter what the politicians say the people will always get along. Hopefully, before we reach the 22nd century these whole Balkan debates will be settled or we just form a union of some sort.
24 veka od FILIP KRAL do 1913 TERITORIJA NA MAKEDONIJA
Kavala-----------Solun-----------Halkidiki----------Pella so Egejsko more.
Macedonia is Bulgarian province, simple as.
Not with tatars
stop lying
No it isn't
@@blagoevski336 yes it is my grandad arrived in Australia in 1931 he wrote Macedonian not greek not bulgarian
@@niksmaithy6929 wasn't responding to you
hi Mario, where can I find the complete lineage of the Macedonian kinds? Since the creation of the Kingdom until the ottoman rule. Thanks.
Do you really think that there were and Macedonian kings? 🤣🤣 You can google it and see there were not , because there were bulgarian kings
nowhere
It doesn't exist, the real Macedonians are extinct
@@JustSlav98 Exactly, you are worshiped of Asian lords with name Bulgars. Your ancestors have got rid of their name and substituted with Asian wariors, which are now almost extinct. Why I know, why you treated Macedonians in same way as Greeks do.
before 25 centuries FILIP MACEDONIAN KINGDOM ! ! ! !
Mario, have you made errors here?
3:48 that inscription does not seem to be written in Greek.
7:42 this inscription is written in the Greek alphabet, so what you are implying is that Bulgars left it using the Greek alphabet?
@Antigon Gonat From what I read, Omurtag inscription is in the Greek LANGUAGE. Is the one Mario showing in Bulgarian language using Greek script or is it in Greek language alltogether?
@@my8osprive It's Greek language. This is the truth: There are only 1 and a half texts written in the supposed Bulgarian language which aren't enough to prove any linguistic family and no conclusive translation has been made (these are: the Preslav "inventory?" list, and another similar badly damaged one). People can't figure out what they say so they search words in other turkic languages in other time periods in other regions trying to find some words that "somehow look like" so they can connect them, but none of that is scientific. These texts also suggest that the language doesn't have agglutinative features(as seemingly multiple forms of the same words are present, with changed roots), neither do they have vowel harmony, both of which are essential to all turkic languages.
Besides, the real name of the ruler is 100% certainly Murtag without O (there's no question about it!). Many other sources confirm it and there are documents that show the name was still used by people in 16th century. It is also definitely not turkic by origin, because of the phonology as well as very similar names found in Germanic and Celtic sources, which supports an Indo-European origin of the name. The O in front is a misinterpreted typo of using omega instead of omicron for the definitive article in Greek language. Our epigraphic sources are quite crude and illiterate, and there are various inconsistencies and typos. The original researcher of the text (more than 100 years ago) was confused and decided to merge the O together as part of the name. That's how it entered mainstream historiography, something that our historians still haven't addressed officially. The whole turkic theory is a made up lie based on many similar fabrications.
Also, this channel is pure propaganda and this hobo speaks no truth. Regards from Bulgaria, "Makedonia" is Greek. Truth shall prevail.
Do you really try to reason with him? You cannot make a moron stop being a moron - this is a law of physics.
@@onezero3218 I am always the optimist :D
Yeah we used the Greek alphabet before we created the slavic alphabet
twisted truth by Bulgars!thnx for explaining.
You are twisted you branewashed Bulgarian from macedinian región.
@@didoidol you can only dream that the world is bulgarian you sichkovist!from Burgundia to Mongolia its all yours i gave it to you! when we say Makedonia its like garlic to a devil to you Vulgarians..
@@danielpetrovski6662 no the world is not ours, only macedonia. Бугарче од македонски регион без историjа, без фолклор, без народ, без jазик. И не можеш да ме обидиш на татар и монгол оти Гоце Делчев е бугарин и е ваш най голем герой, Гоце Делчев татар ли е? Монгол ли е? 😂😂😂😂
@@didoidol iako pishuval vo pisma zada ubeduva lugje da go pomognat kako i sekoj politichar deka e Bugarin,toj se deklarira kako Makedonec ,zatoa i e eliminiran kako i site negovi sovremenici koi ne se soglasuvale so vrhovistite..so Protogerov natamu VMRO e kidnapirana organizacija i site manipulacii se od vrvot na Bg.tron za nivni potrebi .vash heroj nee sigurno zashto ke najdevte nachin ushte togash dago velichate ,a ne nashi lugje dago krijat i dagi donesat koskite vo Skopje.a so shovinizmot i fashistichkite likovi i strani,teshko deka kese najdeme..trebashe da bideme edno ushte od vremeto posle Puleski Gjorgija ,a od togash se samo vetuvanja deka ke ni pomognete ko brakja ama ne!toa shto ne tretirate ko cigani i den denes otkoga ZajkoKukurajko ne ostavi na nemilost megu vas i Shiptarite ke vi se mavne pak od glava,zashto Bugarite ne razbiraat bratsvo i edinstvo na narodite tuku samo svojot lichen interes mislejki deka ke izgubite,a ne ste izgubile nishto..a gjavolot ni ora ni kopa..a plodovite se poznavaat po drvoto..a drvoto nee Bugarsko..niti srpsko niti grchko niti shiptarsko..
MACEDONIANS speak Macedonian language. @... arivederc'i .
You are forgetting that the majority of the standardization of The Old Church Slavonic (Old Bulgarian) language occurred in the city of Preslav, not only in Ohrid along side the creation of the "Cyrillic" Alphabet. Also, at the time of Boris, he was known as "TSAR" and not "KHAN" - he was the first ruler to be given this title of "Caesar" outside of the Roman/Byzantine Empire.
Just how Thracians disappeared and became one with Bulgaria and Byzantium, the same happened with the original "Macedonians" but a thousand or so years earlier! - The ethnicity of "North Macedonia" is the same as that of Bulgaria, and so is it's language. North Macedonia has no claim over the language or alphabet, and the history books say it all, there is no argument to be had.
boris was knyaz but yea
So other nations on the territory of the bulgarian empire like Serbs and Vlahs kept their name and identity, but the Macedonians with their great culture started calling themselves Bulgarians.
The tribe of the Smolyani can not be macedonian. Geographically they lived in the Rhodopi Mountain, where nowadays is the bulgarian town of Smolyan. And this is not in Macedonia at all.
And how can a slavic tribe be a macedonian tribe?
If they are Macedonians they cannot be a slavic tribe anymore.
Looks like this is really a complicated part of the history for you.
Beside that, you lye like "an old gypsy".
Think a bit about Makedon an archeological site of Vergina wich was not Makedonia in pagan times !
Never called so in the time before 2000 years !
Alexander was from Makedon !
It was pagan time left in oblivion .
There is no such a thing North Republic of Makedon but North republic of Macedonia as wider expresion than Makedon is .
We did not stole anything Greek , but the culture was called retrogradly so.
It is too late to change it and that is why we must make comprimises!
Makedon was not called ever Greece but Kingdom Makedon sometime Helenic, and helenic was not some kind of a nation but culture spread !
When you compare the artefacts just see how old and diferent ornamentation are in that site of Pella ( Bela ) and what are macedonian treasures all over, today of a new era after Jesus Christ .
Nowhere was writen Makedonia in the Alexander time ,
but Makedon !
You made it in all history books Makedon to be the same with Makedonia !
OK , you have that name "greeks", and nobody is going to change it !
If it wasn't the mosaic of Alexander found in excavation of Pompey in 1843 , nobody could have known how he looked like .
They didnt know where Vergina was up to 1970-ties .
There was only pagan amulets and panagias in churches !
Pagan art of pagan famoust people left in memory of people !
And that is an other story how is looking today ( Alexsander The Great , realy
great like handsome and imaginable, Apolon ).
Everyone can put him anywhere they like as artefact!
Not knowing how he loked like is not pilfering .
It is only an art exagerated by passed times !
So keep going making "ancient " arthefact but all world knows what was Makedon and what is Macedonian Republic in the Northern Macedonia after Province Macedoniae , Roman time name !
Thank you ,at last the problem is solved and Bulgaria will never manage to apropriate us ever !
Because we have not ancestors of Makedon but from Makedonia which was a unique and specialy determinated because of people calling themselves Macedonians !
It is your ancestors Makedin because you like to exagerate and you think that it is posible to have such as long time "greek" haplogrour relation .
Ha ha ha ha
You have accepted that expresion
,, Greeks" , so please yourselves ,
and no thank you we are not greeks !
We dont like it ! You are the ones that did us a favour at last and made last verifikation of our entity in the North .
Is our name Slav Macedonia , not .
Even our language is registered worldwidly as macedonian language , indoeuropean groupand Slavic branch which is expresing the culture aplied in our country Makedonia not Slav etnicity !
@@voskreglavincevska3651 You (Macedonians), are an invention of the Comintern in the 1930's and 40's.
Nowhere before that do history books mention a separate slavic Macedonian race.
Trying to cover this up makes you guys look like infants. Grow up and face reality.
Nice video as always Mario ;)
@@bobantheighty6141 NEVER
@@davidadem1390 Says who?
"It should be noted that there is NO CONNECTION between the ancient Macedonians of the time of Alexander the Great who were related to other Greek [Hellenic] tribes, and the modern so called "Macedonians" of today [of the Former Yugoslav Rep..of north Macedonia]who are of Slavic origin and related to the Bulgarians"
[David H Levinson, Anthropologist, Encyclopaedia of World Cultures, p. 239]
Mario, I really tried to hear you out (I listened to 18 minutes of fantasy) this interpretation if history is so skewed that is nothing but propaganda. My favorite part is that tsar Boris gave the throne to someone else... called Simeon?!?!? (This someone else just happened to be his younger son) do some research brother don't embaress yourself...
@adrian colp drugs again !!!!!
@adrian colp just so you understand I am from the macedonian region, my family was prosecuted by the communist for not accepting the made up macedonian nationality, maintaining that we are all Bulgarians. I also hapen to be educated in the US, and just so you know the rest of the world believes in the same history the Bulgarians believe in. Only in Macedonia do they teach this alt history, which is paid for by the Serbian state since before the 40's. Unfortunately this propaganda has worked and now we have one peoples divided in 2 separate weak countries instead of united and strong together. As far as you comment is concerned... so weak... you ignored everything I said and created your own narrative which was total gibberish. P.S. that is called a strawman argument...look it up.
MAKEDONIJA 25 VEKA e vo JUZ'NA EVROPA .
od FILIP KRAL IV vek pred ovaa era i denes XXI vek ! ! !
Mario…take your Meds! 💊
👏
"Macedonian nationalism Is a new phenomenon. In the early twentieth century, there was no separate Slavic Macedonian identity."
Sperling, James; Kay, Sean; Papacosma, S. Victor (2003). Limiting institutions?: the challenge of Eurasian security governance. Manchester, UK: Manchester University Press. p. 57.
Ckoπje (region) is 17% Greek, 13% Serbian and 70% Bulgarian.
why greek
@@ioanhogwarts4953 Because of the Greek population that lives in the region. Most Greek cities are around the lakes.
@@KKODAXIS1982 exept for ohrid and bitola excuse me
@@KKODAXIS1982 thankfully we have no greek cities in bulgaira
@@ioanhogwarts4953 Yes, you have Greek cities and they are more than the Greek cities in Vardarska. My grandmother is from Sozopol (Σωζόπολη-Sozopoli) in Black sea and south of Burgas. My cousins still live there.
Why u hate Greece and Greeks, and u claim Alexander wasnt Hellene?
Greek history is fake made to attract tourist like egypts the real old ruins are in iran turkey and iraq and are Tartarian and Alexander never existed his sculpt is an itallian statue made somehere in the 17th century
Don't listen to the man on top. Greece has history and unfortunately we don't know why they steal history... I have always wondered how do they claim they have Christian since day yet they claim Alexander the great is "macedonian" He was born before Christ which means there is no way he could be Christian as you would know. Makes you think eh? Obviously not it's very easy to catch on the eye
@@todorvranchev2091 Greeks are NOT Christian.After centuries of Byzantine murders and suppression of Hellenes, still most Greeks are Atheists, Agnostics, etc, and even most of those who claim Christian, attend church maybe once in a year.
@@maniacgr2617 hmmmm true and also interesting. Now my question is to mario as many macedonians claim. How are eyes one of the first Christian "countries"..... It's sad what they are doing and while they are at it are low key gonna destroy isreals history as well....... If what they say that Alexander the great was SOMEHOW a Christian.
@@todorvranchev2091well in fact Greek history is fabricated to suit for Tourist purposes, genetically Byzantines are Romans and not Greeks and they have different genetic code. It’s not hard to check if you run some DNA tests. Today’s Greek people are mix of small Balkan tribes and Ottoman Empire descendants! That’s why we both those people Turkish and Greek when they run DNA tests it comes out with the same genetic code.
Thanks for this video Mario! Macedonia for the Macedonians! ✌🏻🇲🇰
You no Macedonian you are a bulgars with half you population Albanian
TheБоJaн_ Show the true Macedonia is Greek those people who call themselves Macedonians are bulgars
@TheБоJaн_ Show @UNCHARTED KING - Go get a room you too!
Бугари од македонски регион без историjа без фолклор без народ без jазик. 🇲🇰=💩
@@didoidol you want to steal too much of our history
Listen if you make a historic video you should say the truth not giving propaganda to those Albanian Bulgarian race that calls themselves Macedonians
Michael Trene he looks like a drug addict especially the way he talks
nooo man i want entertainment look at all the turks in the comments and the arguments in the video
Fun Fact: They occupied Macedonia for 32 hours.
Fun Fact: North Macedonia is Bulgaria
@@dido_d5682 Що копираш дидака? ;)
@@pavchoxx Дидака е авер😂
@@dido_d5682 Доказателство? :D
@@pavchoxx виж, че използва моето име :D
It angers me so much that the Bulgarians will claim Alexander the Great, St Cyril and Methodius and even Jesus Christ as their own. They will take anything the Macedonians and Slavs adore and practice and say they created it.
Yes, but I think they will start from the other direction. First they will claim Adam and Eva and slowly they will reach to Alexander :D
@@bobantheighty6141 You should be ashamed of yourself spreading lies on internet. Which countries divided Macedonia on this date in 1913? Who did the ethnic cleansing in Aegean, Pirin and Vardar Maceodnia?
You are pretty much brave with your sweet talks, originating from a Pagan Turkic Mongol background. Your aancestor were killing Macedonians (Slavs) for 3 centuries before they accepted the Christian faith in which we the MACEDONIANS baptized you and gave you language.
But one thing is for sure, the world don't sleep they are slowly opening their eyes and seeing the truth that you and Greece are trying to hide and twist.
@@forbiddenhistory9893 В България никога не са гонили християните, дори Кубрат, Муртаг и Телериг са християни. Така че не си измисляй глупости, Княз Борис покръсти целия си народ, 1200 години по късно ще се явнат едни малумници да си измислят нова народност, като хем са славяни, хем са елини, хем са чада на Александър. Ще се кръстят на римската провинция Македония и ще решат че това е антична Македония. И понеже никой не е чувал за такива мелези, ще си пооткраднат бая от гръцката и българската история, ще побият знаме с вентилатор и ще кажат като княз Испор, - ОТ ТУК КЕ БИДЕ МАКЕДОНИЯ. :)
no we never claimed alexander was bulgaria he did not even exist
@@bogdanharalampiev2875 Или лажеш или појма немаш од сопствената историја:
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Ајде читај сега пред да се бламираш јавно.
Bulgarians never ruled Macedonia
Both first and second bulgarian empire were turks by origin from bulgars and cumans😂😂
Also last bulgarian dynasty is German origin
why do I see you EVERYWHERE about bulgars or bulgarians?
@Чичо Радко Which Ottoman sultan was Slavic,Balkanic or Arabic by origin😀😀
Actually the North Macedonians, are ethnic Turks. The real Macedonians live in Northern Greece. During the Ottoman Empire the region North Macedonia was inhabited by Turks, Albanians and Serbs. The real name of Skopje is Sanjak of Üsküp. In 1392 Pasha Yiğit Bey led the army that took Skopje (Üsküp) and he was named the conqueror of Skopje by the Ottoman Empire. Pasha Yiğit Bey became the first lord of the Skopsko Krajište, the borderland province of Ottoman Empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Tito, USSR and the Communist Party in Sofia invented you as a nation. A new history and language were also invented, erasing your Turkish origin.
According to the latest census in NM only 54% are ethnic macedonians and 46% of you are christians. Because of its many mosques, Skopje is also known as Little Turkey. The sad reality is that you are a failing state that soon will be part of Albania.
MACEDONIANS ARE MACEDONIANS. @...... x x .
Another insightful video Mario.
You are being problematic buddy. Your channel in general is the biggest propaganda I’ve ever seen so far.
Just because your country was, and is a nothing doesn’t gives you any sort of right to change history according to your very own likes and preferences.
You can't expect much from a young guy in his twenties who has been brainwashed from the diaspora.
Ha uses legit literature, he isn't a history designer.
I have reported most of his videos as false information
@@Κωνσταντίνος-ξ9μ you should report your self too. you are the highest false in history
@@Κωνσταντίνος-ξ9μ the republic of Macedonia is the only independent region of Macedonia the other parts of the region are occupied by Greece Bulgaria Serbia and Albania Macedonia will reunite in her ethnographical and geographical borders 👌🏻
Macedonia for the Macedonians 🇲🇰
"Yugoslav Communists recognized the existence of a Macedonian nationality during WWII to quiet fears of the Macedonian population that a communist Yugoslavia would continue to follow the former Yugoslav policy of forced Serbianization. Hence, for them to recognize the inhabitants of Macedonia as Bulgarians would be tantamount to admitting that they should be part of the Bulgarian state. For that the Yugoslav Communists were most anxious TO MOLD Macedonian history to fit their conception of Macedonian consciousness. The treatment of Macedonian history in Communist Yugoslavia had the same primary goal as the creation of the Macedonian language: to de-Bulgarize the Macedonian Slavs, and to create a national consciousness that would inspire identification with Yugoslavia."
For more see: Stephen E. Palmer, Robert R. King, Yugoslav communism and the Macedonian question, Archon Books, 1971, ISBN 0208008217, Chapter 9: The encouragement of Macedonian culture.
Благодаря !
Love to see the comments pouring! Won't be able to read all of them, but know I love you all!
was the saxons belongs to the macedonians
@@chris9473 Here you can read that evidence: www.pinterest.com/pin/642185228107160550/
Много интересни теории .
Don't be shine I am sure alexander the great conquer mars, how there we call u Bulgarians OMG the man himself do other planets not countries! And do u know how I know that ? Becouse you the greater macedonians discover your( imagine) leanglige there on Mars .... So we are the true GREAT Macedonians firs on this lend!!! This will be like epizod 911 cheers tard
Bulgarians never occupied macedonia but bulgars did
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Uv got great potential to be on the history channel and discovery channel posdrav od abstralia
Yee... Discovery Sci-Fi
@@PifchoBG 100000 damage
Excellent said Mario.These are stated facts.
Those facts are written nowhere when you google them, so they are not real
Bulgaria is indeed related to tartaria but tartarians are not asian they are more like nodern day russian
Have you ever seen any Tatarian? We have one women from Tatarstan. She is look like Mongolian girl. Don`t mix Russsian with Tatarian. Tatarians are minority in Russia.
Why you call them Macedonians they are bulgars
Macedonians are not bulgar or bulgarian
Македонец Македонија you welcome i hope you get a brain cell or two
Македонец Македонија also change your name I can read Slavic
As the number of evidence of linguistic, ethnographic and socio-political nature show that Bulgars belonged to the group of Turkic peoples.[36][24][26][30]
The Bulgars (also Bolgars or proto-Bulgarians[40]) were a semi-nomadic people of Turkic descent, originally from Central Asia, who from the 2nd century onwards dwelled in the steppes north of the Caucasus and around the banks of river Volga (then Itil).
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bulgaria
Bulgars (< Turkic bulgha- ‘to mix, stir up, disturb’, i.e. ‘rebels’)
A Turkic tribal union of the Pontic steppes that gave rise to two important states: Danubian-Balkan Bulgaria (First Bulgarian Empire, 681-1018) and Volga Bulgaria (early 10th century-1241). They derived from Oghuric-Turkic tribes, driven westward from Mongolia and south Siberia to the Pontic steppes in successive waves by turmoil associated with the Xiongnu (late 3rd cent. ... ...
www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780198662778.001.0001/acref-9780198662778-e-820
Many Slavic tribes lived within the boundaries of the state, together with the proto-Bulgarians, a tribe of Turkic origin that had settled in the Balkan Peninsula at the end of the 7th century.
www.britannica.com/biography/Boris-I
The Bulgars were a Turkic tribal confederation that gave rise to the Balkan Bulgar and Volga Bulgar states.The ethynonym derives from the Turkish bulgha-,”to stir,mix,disturb,confuse.”
books.google.com.tr/books?id=c788wWR_bLwC&pg=PA354&redir_esc=y&hl=tr#v=onepage&q=Bulgars&f=false (Harvard University Press)
The Volga Bulgars, a Turkish tribe then living on the east bank of the Volga River, ... the laws of Islam to the Bulgars, who had recently converted to the religion.
www.bookrags.com/research/ahmad-ibn-fadlan-ued/#gsc.tab=0
Eastern Bulgars , Bulgars Ancient Turkic people originating in the region n and e of the Black Sea.
www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/balkan-states
Volga Bulgaria was a northeastern European Turkic state that formed during the 9th century and continued into the first four decades of the 13th century.
www.readcube.com/articles/10.1002/9781118455074.wbeoe009
www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/social-science/cultures/other/bulgars-eastern
referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/encyclopedia-of-slavic-languages-and-linguistics-online/*-COM_031941
www.thefreedictionary.com/Proto-Bulgar+languages
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bulgarizdat.ru/index.php/book1/article1-1
Bulgars, Eastern bŭl´gärz, -gərz [key], Turkic-speaking people, who possessed a powerful state (10th-14th cent.) at the confluence of the Volga and the Kama, E European Russia.
The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th ed. Copyright © 2012, Columbia University Press.
Cambridge University Press
books.google.com.tr/books?id=Ylz4fe7757cC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=proto+bulgars&source=bl&ots=vvGsuu2J3g&sig=ACfU3U2YuPKKdgVQKhoUi2fyDiC99n4N_Q&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRqIaDlNvmAhWM-yoKHW38DDI4FBDoATAAegQIBRAB#v=onepage&q=proto%20bulgars&f=false
Population genetic analysis indicated that Conquerors had closest connection to the Onogur-Bulgar ancestors of Volga Tatars.
www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53105-5
hizliresim.com/stAHqu
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@@papazataklaattiranimam Macedonians/Bulgarians same people
Greeks and Bulgarians!!
We don't have to prove anything to you , if someone is Macedonian that they are Macedonian, regardless of history.
Stay safe,happy peace,love and respect.
We don't mind u having your own country brother we never new countries come up anytime any year and they also dissapear. But the problem is when history is taken. Yes macedonian land as we know it now is very sacred and historical but it doesnt belong to the country of macedonia it belongs to the country that owned this land. We love fyrom anyway.
@@todorvranchev2091 , nobody is asking if you mind or don't mind.
Your luck of respect shows your chauvinism.
You came up with nice words then you twisted them like someone is owing something.
You need to decide what are you , vulgarturk, Tatar, ülgur or Slav.
If choose the first 3 then you are Bulgar descending from Khan family.
If you are Slav then you can be Macedonian or Serb.
Again I will keep my nice attitude.
Wishing everyone happy New year and prosperous life ❤️🇲🇰👌
@@MacedonianGrace brother I said nothing but nice things. I am a bulgar the bulgar that rules the world created the cyrilic I am also a macedon descendent where my grandfather got burnt in front of our bulgar family from serbs. That's what I am, I am also a slav. A nation that's been slavic for around 1000 words do not try to rub that bullshit on me. In will never be macedonian as there is no such thing ur either Greek serb orbulgia bulgarian.
@@todorvranchev2091 right Brother
Ok I didn't mean to upset you, I'm sorry, if you are ok , we can do nice talk beyond political.
I respectfully greet you are as a Great Bulgarian.
Cheers mate.
@@MacedonianGrace and I recognise u as a macedonian 👍
Bulgarian history in the medieval times is heavily influenced by Macedonians. But in the 19th and 20th century it's reversed. And it's nothing to be ashamed of. When the bulgars came, we were intellectually superior to them, although they try to claim the opposite and losing the opportunity to be taken seriously by us. The truth is, we don't share the same history, but we have a significant amount of times when we were counted as one, under the Bulgarian name which is strange.
Correct! More on this in the next episode!
@@bobantheighty6141 you are taking this way too far. How come every Wikipedia page is referring to the Old Slavic language as Old Church Slavonic, and only the Bulgarian page is calling it Old Bulgarian. How come a Turkic tribe becomes from extremely hostile to extremely acceptive and protective to the Slavic culture in a time span of 200 years.
P.S we didn't have an official alphabet until 1945 so you can't call the Serbs guilty of taking Bulgarian letters from the alphabet because in the northern parts of Macedonia, Serbian letters were prevalent, while in the southern parts Bulgarian letters were prevalent because we didn't have schools nor any official cultural institution allowed. It is very idiotic to call Macedonian the youngest Slavic language when many people are referring to it as one of the oldest
@@bobantheighty6141 well whatever symbol or other we claim as our own, few years later you claim it as yours. A pure evidence are the author songs from Vaska Ilieva and Vojo Stojanovski, who you show under bulgarian flag and claim as your own
You are very good at mental gymnastics. Too bad the world does not agree with you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_of_Bulgaria www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-tsar-of-western-Bulgaria
@@ProtSqua YOU HONESTLY BROUGHT IN WIKIPEDIA???? ROFLLLLLLLLLL MAAANNNN I feel sorry for you. EVERY WIKIPEDIA PAGE IS CONTRA TO YOUR "MACEDONIAN" history books man, wtf are you talking about?
Please make more videos about Turkic Bulgar tribe👍
There is no Turkic-Bulgar tribe, my descendants are from the Ottoman Empire and I’m born and raised in Bulgaria, but in fact we were Bulgarian until the Ottoman Empire started taking the 1st born male to become a Janissary! I really don’t know where have you studied History… it’s funny how so many people live in some sort of fantasy.
Македония е Бугарска земя
Мхм, да фала што ни кажа готово еве редица правиме да се пишеме Бугари :D
Бугарија не е Бугарска не па Македонија.
@@forbiddenhistory9893 "фала" е српски,
махай се от тука
@@bobantheighty6141 Марио пръв предавник :)
@@Uc9uE3pKsS6uQ Оф, се извинувам МЕРСИ е Бугарски така???. Каков клошар!
@@bobantheighty6141 Да,да знаеме како умреа, од вашите изроди и предавници кои ги местеа да гинат од турците а вие да фаќате сеир од страна. Бугарија беше слободна кога умре Гоце, ај де одговори ни зошто не побарал Гоце да биде закопан на Бугарска земја туку во Македонија - пошто според вашите квази истории напишани во кафана Македонија била Бугарска земја?
One of problems here. You speak about western bulgarians and bulgarians not macedonians and bulgarians.
Who is Simeon again? Somebody else. If you calling your son somebody else it doesn't talk good for you. But you already treat him bad when you talk false history about his origin. Really it is documented that ancient Macedonians (100% from Hellenistic origin) where resettled by Byzantium due heavy devastated onslaught by Visigoths, Huns and Vandals IV V century into other parts of the empire. So you are not ancient now what are you Slavs just one of the slav peoples who resettled in that region because it was heavy depopulated. Even these Presian inscription from Philippi is not written in native Bulgarian language as you say, it is greek language . The nobility of First Bulgarian empire is not only Bulgars who sadistically torture native balkan population as you picture it but byzantine greeks, bulgars and slavs even from the parts of macedonian province and was well educated back then . In conclusion If you are saying that Bulgars come tortured and killing everything they saw the rest alive they subjugate why there is state called Bulgaria today? How was able to survive so much time more than 1000 years. How you will explain that with what you saying? It is non sense complete false history. Take your North Macedonian state build it how you can but don't mess with my history and origin of the provinces from The First and Second Bulgarian Empires. I'm not Macedonian as you try to picture me. You have to rename yourself to Mario's False History Talks
MAKEDONIJA 25 CENTURIES. Blgaria 140 years. Greece 190 years.
Skopije, no one support you
Ние сме татари и пак сме по-силни и обединени от вас.
Барем признавате:) поздрав!
Иначе говориш добре английски поздрав.
@@marioshistorytalks Ти си българин, поздрав
@@dontsadkiddo2251 Той е мъртъв, поздрав.
@@dontsadkiddo2251 I TATJANA AM MACEDONIAN.
goodbye @.
Finally able to catch up and see parts 2 & 3, been so busy with work! Great quality videos as always 👍🏻
Don’t tell me that you believe in those videos. The things he says are not proven and are just theories that don’t even make sense
@@JustSlav98....... look .... Zadruga .
Thing is even now Bulgaria can occupy you with ease but ok
Bugodonci please translate in macedonian or Englisch please
Those are ancient macedonian sklavini.
In borders of other empires. Ruled by other nations kings and emperor's. There were ancient inhabitants inhabiting an area called Macedonia. Not a nation. The nation was created centuries later. Around 1991.
MAKEDONSKI NAROD 25 VEKA od KRAL FILIP ! ! ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 you mean Filip the Greek? Who was born in the Macedonian region between Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece 😂 I can easily tell that you never opened a book in your entire life. You are artificially created country just like kosovo 😉
Тия верно са много лошо промити то пази боже
Bulgars mad on their heritage!
Срам няма и защо да има, при положение, че знаеш истината. Само истината прави човекът истински свободен, дано някой ден прогледнете.
100 % TRUE ! slushajte slavjano - " bugari " , toa e vistinata ! dozvolivte edna turko-mongolska orda da vi nametne nivno ime i ideentitet ! od Trako - slavjani stanavte turko-bugari !
Само дето българите никога не са били тюрки, а славяните ще се явнат към 16 век, измислени от Марко Прибоевич, и наложени от немкинята Екатерина велика. Ама ти това от де ще го знаеш, като слушаш и верваш само на такива измислени историчари.
@@bogdanharalampiev2875 cel svt znae deka bulgarite se turkic - mongolic , so turkic jazik ! slavjanite postoele i pred 16 vek , pod ime Makedonci , Traki i Iliri , samo poimot slavjani e nov od 16 vek !
@@ohrid59mk76 под име македонци, жив славянин не мож намери, имало е гети, а тюрско-монголи си е ваша измислица, кой век идват монголите в европа може и сам да разбереш, като гледам имаш компютар, потърси а не пиши заучени глупости. bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82_%D0%9E%D1%85%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8, bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8 как мислиш, йоан малала който е роден в 5 век, дали не е по близо до истината от тебе?
@@bogdanharalampiev2875 MAKEDONCI , ILIRI i TRAKI = PROTO SLOVENI !
BULGARS= TURKIC HORDA from Asia , Altai mountains !
@@ohrid59mk76 поляците и литовците и чехите какви са бре? Прото македонци ли? Да си чувал монголи и татари да превземат троя? Я прочети какво пише В „Хронография“ на византийския летописец Йоан Малала пише: „пристигна с атридите и самси Ахил със своя собствена войска, наричани някога мирмидоняни, а сега българи, 3000 души“ Това е 550 година смотан, смяташ ли че човек от 6 век не прави разлика между тюрки и монголи и траки? Ахил монголец ли е бре? istorianasveta.eu/%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8/ct-menu-item-11/%D0%BE%D1%82-%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE-681-%D0%B3/534-%D0%B1%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8-%D0%B8-%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8-%D0%B2-%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BD%D0%B0-v-%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0-vi-%D0%B2.html Чети и това, за монголи освен теб, никъде не се споменава. В прочем и за мЪкедонци.
Makedonia is Part of greek like all other states. You are a slav like it or not. Go to make a dna test to see what you are. Slavs came to the region 6 c after christ.
Keep up the good work Mario